2007 MLB Thread

[IMSlacker]

Hey!




So how's your boy Z? Heard he left with an injury of some sort.

BCB refers to Bleed Cubby Blue (http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/), which is a popular Cubs blog.

Looks like Zambrano had arm and leg cramps due to dehydration. Hopefully, he'll be fine. Ryan Dempster, on the other hand, suffers from being a crappy pitcher. There's no real cure for that.

[TheMojoPin]

BCB refers to Bleed Cubby Blue (http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/), which is a popular Cubs blog.

Looks like Zambrano had arm and leg cramps due to dehydration. Hopefully, he'll be fine. Ryan Dempster, on the other hand, suffers from being a crappy pitcher. There's no real cure for that.

Doesn't help that Lou screwed up huge. Dempster comes in when we have the lead. Wood should have pitched when Howry did and then Howry should have come out in the 9th. Then Lou bats Jacque Jones against a lefty in the bottom of the 9th with 2 on and no outs? Moronic.

[sailor]

Doesn't help that Lou screwed up huge. Dempster comes in when we have the lead. Wood should have pitched when Howry did and then Howry should have come out in the 9th. Then Lou bats Jacque Jones against a lefty in the bottom of the 9th with 2 on and no outs? Moronic.

i didn't see any of the game, but isn't howry the closer?

[TheMojoPin]

i didn't see any of the game, but isn't howry the closer?

He was for the most part just before and after the ASB when Dempster was on the DL.

[Kevin]

He was for the most part just before and after the ASB when Dempster was on the DL.

Readin that.. Maybe your Cubbies should have went after Gange..

[Ritalin]

He was for the most part just before and after the ASB when Dempster was on the DL.

Shit. I need to see something STRONG this weekend. This is a playoff opponent, and losing like that last night is some bad fucking mojo, MOJO.

[sailor]

He was for the most part just before and after the ASB when Dempster was on the DL.

i like howry better.

[TheMojoPin]

Readin that.. Maybe your Cubbies should have went after Gange..

No, our starters need to start lasting longer than 5 innings. It's murdering the bullpen.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

The Cubs need a Better Closer then Dumpster

:king:

[TheMojoPin]

The Cubs need a Better Closer then Dumpster

:king:

Actually, they really don't. His numbers in save situations are pretty damn good. In non-save situations, like last night, they're kinda sucky. Piss-poor game management.

[Bulldogcakes]

Sheffield concerned about right arm after another loss (http://mlive.live.advance.net/tigers/index.ssf/2007/08/athletics_3_tigers_2.html)

Something's just not right, and the Detroit Tigers could be facing a health concern that's more worrisome than Joel Zumaya's finger or Fernando Rodney's shoulder or Kenny Rogers' elbow or even Carlos Guillen's knee. More worrisome, certainly, than the eight-loss road trip that concluded with Wednesday's 3-2 defeat in Oakland.

Sheffield just doesn't feel right, and he's not sure what's wrong.

"I don't even want to think about the worst-case scenario,'' Sheffield said.

He had a cortisone shot in his right shoulder last week in Chicago. It was his second shot in five weeks, and he was counting on it to have the same effect that the first one did.

Instead, in the week since Sheffield returned to the Tiger lineup, he's 4-for-23 with no extra-base hits and no RBIs. He said Wednesday that his right arm and right hand feel numb, and that he doesn't feel like he can drive the ball.

"I just don't feel comfortable when I'm up there,'' Sheffield said. "When I want to fire, it's just not firing.''

The Tigers finally returned home after Wednesday's game, and Sheffield will visit a doctor either today or Friday. He can't have another cortisone shot, but he does hope to find out what's wrong with his arm.

"It's like it's numb,'' he said. "My grip. Everything. It's my whole right side.''

Sheffield came to the plate four times Wednesday. His first-inning fly ball died short of the warning track (he said it would have been a home run if healthy), he popped up in the sixth and struck out in the eighth, both times chasing off-speed pitches.

"He's cheating to get the bat going,'' manager Jim Leyland said. "That's why he's swinging at bad balls, because he's trying to get the bat going early (to compensate).''


This might help explain their recent woes, and if its serious he could be done for the year.

[Doctor Z]

Does anybody else find it strange that A-Rod, Bonds, and Glavine were all on the brink of milestones for weeks, and then all 3 basically happened all at once?

[spoon]

"He's cheating to get the bat going,'' manager Jim Leyland said.

I guess Leyland is referring to The Clear right. Fuck Sheffield, he deserves to fall off the MLB map all together. I hear his arm isn't right bc it doesn't like being black. He's about to write a book about how his arm and Joe Torre hate black people.

[Fallon]

Heeeey, Kerry Wood is back!

Hope he can stay healthy.

[IMSlacker]

Heeeey, Kerry Wood is back!

Hope he can stay healthy.

Me too. Looked pretty good against Reyes there.

[spoon]

I hear the over under is 2.5 weeks!

[cougarjake13]

Does anybody else find it strange that A-Rod, Bonds, and Glavine were all on the brink of milestones for weeks, and then all 3 basically happened all at once?

havent ya heard ????

its fake like wrestling, and they didnt want it to happen last week during the HOF inductions

[Doctor Z]

havent ya heard ????

its fake like wrestling, and they didnt want it to happen last week during the HOF inductions

Good point, good point.

[buzzard]

Do mine eyes deceive me?..the Cubs only a half game out in August!..man I miss being a bleacher bum!

[TheMojoPin]

Do mine eyes deceive me?..the Cubs only a half game out in August!..man I miss being a bleacher bum!

I think they're a full game out, and Soriano is likely out for 2-4 weeks, but yeah, there they are.

I keep thinking I should be freaking out more over Soriano going down...but I'm not. His hits are incredibly streaky and he's really kinda sucked since the ASB, so it's not like he's been all that key to the team's great run. I just hope they wise up and start playing some of the young kids rotting in the minors or on the bench so creaky, powerless vets like Jones and Floyd get playing time.

[weekapaugjz]

wow, st. louis just opened it up on san diego in the fifth. 7-3. wells getting the yank.

edit: scratch that. 8-3. a homer on the first pitch off the reliever.

[TheMojoPin]

Sweet Christmas, the Brewers and Cubs are JOKES.

[midwestjeff]

Sweet Christmas, the Brewers and Cubs are JOKES.

On that note...
I just turned on the Cards game, 7th inning, and fucking Rick Ankiel comes up to bat. My reaction, "Holy Shit.". Is this a joke? I never thought he'd be back. He's hit 32 hrs in AAA, but still. The team's history with this guy is fucked up, for those who don't know. He was a goog young pitcher that lost his mind and was then converted to an outfielder.
So what does he do? 3-run homer. Fucking amazing. I'm shocked. I guess his bat will carry the cards back to .500 and beyond. Here they come.

[TheMojoPin]

On that note...
I just turned on the Cards game, 7th inning, and fucking Rick Ankiel comes up to bat. My reaction, "Holy Shit.". Is this a joke? I never thought he'd be back. He's hit 32 hrs in AAA, but still. The team's history with this guy is fucked up, for those who don't know. He was a goog young pitcher that lost his mind and was then converted to an outfielder.
So what does he do? 3-run homer. Fucking amazing. I'm shocked. I guess his bat will carry the cards back to .500 and beyond. Here they come.

Cards strike garbage heap gold again.

Seriously, their track record with useless humps suddenly looking like world beaters is nowhere near being fair.

[midwestjeff]

Cards strike garbage heap gold again.

Seriously, their track record with useless humps suddenly looking like world beaters is nowhere near being fair.

The fucking fan adoration of Ankiel is ridiculous. I listen to a lot of AM (KMOX) sports radio and fans have never quit calling in with the fucking "how is he doing" calls. I always figured he would disappear. Now this? Fucking stupid. They called him up before september. It reeks of desperation but with the Central being so weak, any energizing move can make a difference. One one hand it is embarassing, on the other they won today so fuck it.

oh yeah. They still have the garbage heap that is Kip Wells, so it is hit and miss. Although he has been good in his last two starts.

[IMSlacker]

Cards strike garbage heap gold again.

Seriously, their track record with useless humps suddenly looking like world beaters is nowhere near being fair.

Get Tony Womack on the phone!

[Fallon]

BRIDGEPORT, Conn. (AP) -- Former Red Sox infielder Jose Offerman was arrested Tuesday night after charging the mound and hitting the pitcher and catcher with his bat during an independent minor league game. (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/)

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/offerman2_0815.jpg

What a nut!

[cougarjake13]

man he's off his rocker

[BoondockSaint]

Cubs sign Zambrano. 5 years 90 mil.

[cougarjake13]

Cubs sign Zambrano. 5 years 90 mil.

is that more or less tham what they were offering in spring training that he refused ???

[IMSlacker]

is that more or less tham what they were offering in spring training that he refused ???

According to the Tribune (http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-070817cubszambrano,1,3171337.story?coll=cs-home-headlines), it's $91.5 million. Not sure whether that's more or less than what they offered him before the season started. Can't remember seeing a figure, just that they were close to a deal, and then negotiations went on hold when the sale of the Tribune was announced.

This is probably the part that took so long...

The contract includes a complete no-trade clause and a possible sixth year at $19.5 million, depending on Zambrano's health and Cy Young ranking in the fifth year.

[TheMojoPin]

Well, I'm glad this got done. Really didn't espect it before the season was over. Now if the Reds can just hold on to their 6-3 lead over the Brewers in the bottom of the 8th, the Cubs will be in actual first place after what feels like forever.

[HBox]

Brandon Webb has thrown 3 consecutive shutouts and has 42 consecutive scoreless innings. Wow.

[TheMojoPin]

Well, for a brief shining moment, the Cubs are all alone in 1st place. Madness.

In other news, Adam Dunn is a monster wearing a human suit. (http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/media/player/mp_tpl.jsp?w_id=592943&w=mms%3A//a1503.v108692.c10869.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1503/10869/v0001/mlb.download.akamai.com/10869/2007/open/tp/archive08/081707_cinmil_dunn_hr_tp_350.wmv&pid=mlb_tp&gid=2007/08/17/cinmlb-milmlb-1&vid=7758&mid=200708172155339&cid=mlb&fid=mlb_tp400&v=2&mType=w&urlstr=&mUrl=&type=v_free&_mp=1)

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Brandon Webb has thrown 3 consecutive shutouts and has 42 consecutive scoreless innings. Wow.


That DBack -Braves game yesterday helped me take the lead in Fantasy Baseball, was Down 64 points

B Webb 42
Chris Young had 15 points with a 2 HR Game

57 Points from One Game

Wooooooooooooo

:king:

[cougarjake13]

Brandon Webb has thrown 3 consecutive shutouts and has 42 consecutive scoreless innings. Wow.

only 17 1/3 left to go

[Bulldogcakes]

Roy Hobbs lives (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=270818115)

D-backs rookie Owings homers twice, strikes out 7 in win

Micah Owings was the Arizona Diamondbacks on Saturday. He went 4-for-5 with two home runs, four runs and six RBIs and got the win on the mound, allowing three runs on three hits while striking out seven over seven innings. He is the first pitcher with four hits, four runs and six RBIs in the same game.

Great story.

[Bulldogcakes]

Ex Met Clubhouse attendant Radomski talks to Mitchell (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/08/21/radomski.mitchell2/index.html)

NEW YORK -- Kirk Radomski, the former Mets clubhouse attendant who admitted selling steroids to scores of major leaguers, recently has provided names of users in a meeting with baseball's lead steroid investigator, George Mitchell, SI.com has learne

[cougarjake13]

Ex Met Clubhouse attendant Radomski talks to Mitchell (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/08/21/radomski.mitchell2/index.html)

one guy that stands out as a possible steroid user from those mid 80's mets teams is

kevin mitchell

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2004/writers/dan_hoyle/07/21/vendor.chronicles3/p1_mitchell_si.jpg

[Fallon]

Texas is SPANKING the O's. 30-3 in the 9th.

[BoondockSaint]

Texas is SPANKING the O's. 30-3 in the 9th.

And there's more good news for the O's, it's the first game of a double header.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Damn 30-3, I did a Double Take when I saw that

what a Shilacking

:king:

[Bulldogcakes]

Here's the link

Rangers' 30 runs sets AL record in rout of Orioles (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=270822201)

After looking at the score, it's hard to believe the Orioles led this game 3-0 at one point. The Rangers' 30 runs sets a modern MLB record, surpassing the mark of 29 runs that were scored by the Red Sox (June 8, 1950) and White Sox (April 23, 1955). It's the second-most runs all-time as the Chicago Colts (now the Cubs) scored 36 against the Louisville Colonels on June 29, 1897.

Amazing.

[El Mudo]

Here's the link

Rangers' 30 runs sets AL record in rout of Orioles (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=270822201)



Amazing.


This could be the happiest day of my life....


cue Nelson Muntz

[BoondockSaint]

Texas is already up 3-0 in the 2nd inning of the 2nd game.

[epo]

Brandon Webb's 47 inning scoreless streak is over as the Brewers scored in the first inning.

A helluva an effort by Webb. Kudos.

[PapaBear]

Here's the link

Rangers' 30 runs sets AL record in rout of Orioles (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=270822201)



Amazing.
Holy shit. I just heard about this. I can't believe it's bee 110 years since anyone got more runs.

[Landblast]

Here's the link

Rangers' 30 runs sets AL record in rout of Orioles (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=270822201)



Amazing.

tonight will be the best night of sleep i'll have in years.

[A.J.]

Here's the link

Rangers' 30 runs sets AL record in rout of Orioles (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=270822201)



Amazing.

This could be the happiest day of my life....


cue Nelson Muntz

tonight will be the best night of sleep i'll have in years.


Somebody check on Mikeyboy.

[TheMojoPin]

Didn't the Yankees almost give up 30 last year?

[MHasegawa]

yeah, 23 to the tribe i think

[TheMojoPin]

yeah, 23 to the tribe i think

For some reason 22 or 26 are stuck in my head, but I could easily be wrong.

For a second there I was thrown that the guy who finished pitching for the Rangers was actually credited with a save...then I looked it up and saw that as long as someone pitches the flast 3 full innings and his team wins, he gets the save, no matter what the win margin was.

[cougarjake13]

wells signs with the dodgers tentatively (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7150022)

[midwestjeff]

wells signs with the dodgers tentatively (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7150022)

I was kind of hoping STL would pick him up. Seriously. Oh well.

[led37zep]

wells signs with the dodgers tentatively (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7150022)

I HATE THE DODGERS...I REALLY REALLY HATE THE DODGERS but this is a good late season pick up for those fuckers. They've been hit with so many pitching injuries they needed someone in the lineup to back them up.


PS: I REILLY hate the dodgers.

[cougarjake13]

I was kind of hoping STL would pick him up. Seriously. Oh well.

i think it was a he wanted to stay on the west coast thing

thats why he went back to the padres

[King Hippos Bandaid]

The Dodgers are hoping that all's Wells, ends Wells a gee gee gee

:king:

[cougarjake13]

The Dodgers are hoping that all's Wells, ends Wells a gee gee gee

:king:

sounded better when randy said it

[King Hippos Bandaid]

sounded better when randy said it

Nuh Uh!!!!!

Randy is an elitist, rarely comes here, has mocked me for Posting on here... Says Callers to the show do the "real" work..

You chose to back him..

:king:

[epo]

The Braves just DFA'd closer Bob Wickman (http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/braves/stories/2007/08/24/wickman_0825.html).

All of you kids in fantasy baseball better get on that waiver wire quickly!

[cougarjake13]

The Braves just DFA'd closer Bob Wickman (http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/braves/stories/2007/08/24/wickman_0825.html).

All of you kids in fantasy baseball better get on that waiver wire quickly!

i think in most leagues he's already on someone's roster

[BoondockSaint]

i think in most leagues he's already on someone's roster

That's what he means. People need to replace him.

[cougarjake13]

That's what he means. People need to replace him.

ahh see i took him the other way thinking he meant most people already released him a while back and need to pick him up again once he latches on with someone



fuck i'll take him him on the mets, he's isnt much worse than heilman has been and is a fucking huge upgrade over mota who has sucked ass since he's been off the roids

[Earlshog]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/08/27/astros.garner.ap/index.html

Manager Phil Garner and general manager Tim Purpura were fired Monday by the Houston Astros, less than two years after leading the team to its first World Series appearance.

Bench coach Cecil Cooper was appointed interim manager and team president Tal Smith will serve as interim general manager.

[cougarjake13]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/08/27/astros.garner.ap/index.html

Manager Phil Garner and general manager Tim Purpura were fired Monday by the Houston Astros, less than two years after leading the team to its first World Series appearance.

Bench coach Cecil Cooper was appointed interim manager and team president Tal Smith will serve as interim general manager.

ya know its always the manager and gm to go

but they lost roger, pettite, lidge became mitch williams, bagwell injured, biggio not the smae as he once was

yeh they got still got berkman, lee, and oswalt but not much else

and yet they are still only 9 games out in a shitty divison

[TheMojoPin]

yeh they got still got lee oswalt but not much else

I figure that still gives them a shot.

Or three.

[TheMojoPin]

Well, the Cubs are about to only be half a game ahead in 1st, which really isn't a huge deal since they've only been 2.5 ahead at the most (and that was for less than 24 hours), but I have absolutely zero faith that this team can do anything in the playoffs. Yes, I know, the Cardinals won it all last year looking like crap most of the season, but that's the exception and not the rule. The only reason they're in this is because the NL Central is so embarassingly bad and ultimately some retarded team has to win it. I'm just looking at who they'd likely face, the Padres, Diamondbacks and Mets, and their record is something like 7-14 against those teams.

In short, until they actually get somewhere, I have zero faith in this team. None.

[TheMojoPin]

In general, this Cubs team makes me want to cry, but my God, I freakin' love Ted Lilly.

[IMSlacker]

In general, this Cubs team makes me want to cry, but my God, I freakin' love Ted Lilly.

QFT

[cougarjake13]

Red Sox, A's may open '08 in Japan (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7212584)


sucks for the sawx and a's clowns

[cougarjake13]

surprised no one is talking about the new rule in the AL


team with best record gets to pick its schedule


linky bitch (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7216328)

[IMSlacker]

Well the freaking Cubs finally pulled out a win at Minute Maid this year (1-5 now). Why does Ryan Dempster hate me so much?

[ralphbxny]

Yanks keep rolling, Red sox last minute wins...looks like another fun weekend in Beantown!

Chowdah sucks Vs Arod Sucks !

Very Exciting!

[Fezticle98]

What if they played an MLB game and 375 people showed up?

Oh wait, it just happened in Miami.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/marlins/content/sports/epaper/2007/09/13/a1c_marlins_0913.html

[cougarjake13]

What if they played an MLB game and 375 people showed up?

Oh wait, it just happened in Miami.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/marlins/content/sports/epaper/2007/09/13/a1c_marlins_0913.html


i know they've won 2 world series titles, but obviously no one cares about the team and if it isnt contracted or mlb doesnt want to then they need to move to somehwhere that will support them

[IMSlacker]

I went to the Cubs/Astros game tonight. Steve Trachsel works just as slowly now as he did ten years ago. I can't complain though, he picked up the win.

The Cubs hit a whole week's worth of home runs (4) in one game!

[TheMojoPin]

I can complain. Trachsel is a murderous hack and it's a miracle the Cubs won tonight. I hope we only see him again if they clinch and he's giving a real starter a break.

[IMSlacker]

Oh, and this was the first baseball game for my daughter. She was into it for the first half inning. She yelled "Hit it! hit the ball!" while the Cubs were batting in the first inning and they scored four runs! Then she got bored, so my wife took her to get ice cream and play at some sort of "kid zone" thing they have in the concourse behind the first base line.

[TheMojoPin]

Oh, and this was the first baseball game for my daughter. She was into it for the first half inning. She yelled "Hit it! hit the ball!" while the Cubs were batting in the first inning and they scored four runs! Then she got bored, so my wife took her to get ice cream and play at some sort of "kid zone" thing they have in the concourse behind the first base line.

If they make the playoffs, we're flying you and your daughter out for any must-win games.

[lleeder]

Can't the fucking pathetic Twins beat Detroit once?

[TheMojoPin]

Jesus sweet Christ, these Cubs are gonna kill me.

What a win.

[epo]

Jesus sweet Christ, these Cubs are gonna kill me.

What a win.

Three runs in the ninth? Jesus Christ Cincinnati....learn to hold a lead....yer killin' me!

[TheMojoPin]

Three runs in the ninth? Jesus Christ Cincinnati....learn to hold a lead....yer killin' me!

Can't believe you guys get to miss Oswalt now. Zambrano REALLY needs to be on tomorrow.

[epo]

Can't believe you guys get to miss Oswalt now. Zambrano REALLY needs to be on tomorrow.

Good ol' Cecil Cooper to the rescue! Actually Ben Sheets better throw better than that disaster on Friday!

I'm still stunned that the Cubs won that game. I was totally ready to go to bed happy.

[TheMojoPin]

Good ol' Cecil Cooper to the rescue! Actually Ben Sheets better throw better than that disaster on Friday!

I'm still stunned that the Cubs won that game. I was totally ready to go to bed happy.

I'm not buying anything until it happens, but this season is REALLY shaping up to be something special if...well, you know. All of these crazy wins and all the drama on and off the field. It would make a hell of a book or retrospective DVD.

[epo]

I'm not buying anything until it happens, but this season is REALLY shaping up to be something special if...well, you know. All of these crazy wins and all the drama on and off the field. It would make a hell of a book or retrospective DVD.

Don't kill my Milwaukee playoff buzz maaaaaan......We won the Series in 57', went to the Series in 82....and 2007 ?????

Plus I still think Bartman lives in Milwaukee now so we are doing you that solid.

[midwestjeff]

Fuck. Why hang in for 14 innings if you are just going to roll over? I could have gone to bed but instead i listened to this asshole Cardinals team blow another close game. I know they're already out of it, but for fuck's sake, finish the season with a little dignity. I hope Kip Wells pulls a Josh Hancock. And i hope he has a couple of passengers with him. Mulder, Maroth, get in the fucking car. :furious:

[epo]

Bullshit I says! Dunn caught that ball.

If I gotta sit up all night watching baseball, so should MojoPin!

[TheMojoPin]

Bullshit I says! Dunn caught that ball.

If I gotta sit up all night watching baseball, so should MojoPin!

OK, I think you're the only person in the world who thought Dunn caught that. Even the Reds' announcers said he trapped it.

Besides, even if he caught it, Theriot still tags and scores easily.

I really think that if Lou wises up and starts playing Geovany Soto as our regular catcher, offensively he'll be our Braun.

[epo]

OK, I think you're the only person in the world who thought Dunn caught that. Even the Reds' announcers said he trapped it.

Besides, even if he caught it, Theriot still tags and scores easily.

I really think that if Lou wises up and starts playing Geovany Soto as our regular catcher, offensively he'll be our Braun.

Even if he did....Theriot should have never been on third, if not for that fucking Griffey blowing his groin out.

[TheMojoPin]

Even if he did....Theriot should have never been on third, if not for that fucking Griffey blowing his groin out.

That just sucked to watch. It's just sad that a good guy like that with that much talent always gets hurt so much.

And Theriot would have been on 3rd because he had just stolen 2nd earlier in the AB.

[epo]

That just sucked to watch. It's just sad that a good guy like that with that much talent always gets hurt so much.

And Theriot would have been on 3rd because he had just stolen 2nd earlier in the AB.

Well....my night finished perfectly as the bullpen gave up 4 ER in 4IP tonight. I'm gonna go to bed before I say a bad word.

[midwestjeff]

Well....my night finished perfectly as the bullpen gave up 4 ER in 4IP tonight. I'm gonna go to bed before I say a bad word.

at least you're not a cards fan

[TheMojoPin]

Well....my night finished perfectly as the bullpen gave up 4 ER in 4IP tonight. I'm gonna go to bed before I say a bad word.

Dude, as much as I want the Cubs to win, I really feel bad for you. What in God's name was Yost thinking taking out Braun in that double switch? I won't be shocked if he's fired if you guys don't make the playoffs.

I really just don't have anything against the Brewers. I know their in the same division, but they're still the new kids and there really just isn't any kind of rivalry except at this moment to make the post-season. It's not like I "hate" them like the Cubs actual rivals...the Mets, Cardinals and White Sox. Though I toss in the Astros...those fuckers have snuck in too many times to with their joke of a ballpark. I loathe them! But the Brewers, Reds and Pirates...I dunno, if they make the playoffs some year and the Cubs don't, I'd pull for them.

[IMSlacker]

Dude, as much as I want the Cubs to win, I really feel bad for you. What in God's name was Yost thinking taking out Braun in that double switch? I won't be shocked if he's fired if you guys don't make the playoffs.

I really just don't have anything against the Brewers. I know their in the same division, but they're still the new kids and there really just isn't any kind of rivalry except at this moment to make the post-season. It's not like I "hate" them like the Cubs actual rivals...the Mets, Cardinals and White Sox. Though I toss in the Astros...those fuckers have snuck in too many times to with their joke of a ballpark. I loathe them! But the Brewers, Reds and Pirates...I dunno, if they make the playoffs some year and the Cubs don't, I'd pull for them.

I feel pretty much the same way about the Brewers and Pirates. I kind of hate the Reds though.

[epo]

Dude, as much as I want the Cubs to win, I really feel bad for you. What in God's name was Yost thinking taking out Braun in that double switch? I won't be shocked if he's fired if you guys don't make the playoffs.


Yost makes that move quite often actually. After Braun's last "normal at-bat" in the 7th or 8th inning, he lifts him and puts Counsell at 3rd. Braun isn't very good defensively at this point and truth be told I can think of 3 games that they lost because he screwed up in the field in the 8th or 9th inning.

There might be chatter of firing Ned, but when you deliver the first above .500 season & pennant race in 15 years...you probably aren't gonna fire the guy.

[TheMojoPin]

Yost makes that move quite often actually. After Braun's last "normal at-bat" in the 7th or 8th inning, he lifts him and puts Counsell at 3rd. Braun isn't very good defensively at this point and truth be told I can think of 3 games that they lost because he screwed up in the field in the 8th or 9th inning.

There might be chatter of firing Ned, but when you deliver the first above .500 season & pennant race in 15 years...you probably aren't gonna fire the guy.

Just FYI, a lot of Cubs fans were basically saying the same thing After Baker's first year with the Cubs in 2003. Be careful.

[Earlshog]

NEW YORK (AP) -- Here's a scenario that could mess up baseball's postseason schedule: Imagine if Arizona, Colorado, the New York Mets, Philadelphia and San Diego finish with the same record.



http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/09/27/playoff.tie.ap/index.html

[cougarjake13]

NEW YORK (AP) -- Here's a scenario that could mess up baseball's postseason schedule: Imagine if Arizona, Colorado, the New York Mets, Philadelphia and San Diego finish with the same record.



http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/09/27/playoff.tie.ap/index.html


as bad as i want the mets to win outright it would be fucking cool if they all tied

[Bama]

Well, it's officially over now.

Congrats to the Phillies/Mets.

I hate baseball.

[cougarjake13]

Well, it's officially over now.

Congrats to the Phillies/Mets.

I hate baseball.

you had a nice run it had to end some time

[Bama]

you had a nice run it had to end some time

It's kind of nice to have my team out of the playoffs. Much less painful. Now I can concentrate fully on rooting against the Red Sox, Yankees, Cubs and Phillies/Mets.

GO EVERYBODY ELSE. YOU'RE MY BOYS NOW!

[cougarjake13]

It's kind of nice to have my team out of the playoffs. Much less painful. Now I can concentrate fully on rooting against the Red Sox, Yankees, Cubs and Phillies/Mets.

GO EVERYBODY ELSE. YOU'RE MY BOYS NOW!

i dont share your same enthusiasm

[Bulldogcakes]

Santana's name being thrown around (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2007/09/30/giving_credit_where_its_due/?page=5)

Santana's name being thrown around

There's been lots of talk about the Dodgers needing to do something dramatic this offseason, and Johan Santana's name has popped up in a potential blockbuster, with the Dodgers perhaps sending prized prospects such as lefty Clayton Kershaw or outfielder Matt Kemp to the Twins. The big question is, will the Twins deal Santana now or try to win with him one more time? One AL executive theorized, "There are a few teams who could match up with the Twins. Would the Yankees deal Melky Cabrera and an Ian Kennedy for Santana? How about Boston? Would they send a Clay Buchholz and a Jacoby Ellsbury for him? The Mets? There are few teams who could handle the paycheck you'd have to give Santana and also be able to part with key prospects."

[Gvac]

How great is this? Today is the last day of the regular season and there are FOUR teams alive and battling for the last 2 playoff spots in the National League.

[Bulldogcakes]

How great is this? Today is the last day of the regular season and there are FOUR teams alive and battling for the last 2 playoff spots in the National League.

I am absolutely loving every minute of this. Any of the AL teams can go all the way, and there's barely a favorite in the NL either. I think the Padres will be better in the postseason than they are in the regular season. One dominant starter in Peavey and an experienced Maddux for pivotal Game 3. Excellent setup men with Bell, Brocail and Cameron, Hoffman to close. With Peavey going twice I like them for 2 wins right off the bat in every series, so they just have to figure out how to win one more for the ALDS, 2 for the NLCS. D-Back will be very dangerous as well, but they're too young and those teams tend to make key mistakes in the playoffs.

Being a huge Yankee fan, I like the Yanks to get out of the AL. Not that they can't get picked off, they're not heavy favorites. But the match ups have broken perfectly for them to advance, and I think they are the best team in the AL by a slight margin.

Yanks-Padres World Series. 1999 revisited.

[Bulldogcakes]

Story (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/)

Walt Jocketty Dismissed

According to Bernie Miklasz of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, the Cardinals have apparently dismissed GM Walt Jocketty. Assistant GM John Mozeliak will step in for now and perhaps the future. We'll have some more thoughts on the move later tonight. My initial reaction is that if this helps mend the front office rift, it's a good thing


I guess all those rumors about him and LaRussa leaving are true after all. I'd imagine LaRussa will go pretty soon as well, they're known to be very close and its hard to imagine him staying.

[cougarjake13]

Story (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/)




I guess all those rumors about him and LaRussa leaving are true after all. I'd imagine LaRussa will go pretty soon as well, they're known to be very close and its hard to imagine him staying.

any chance la russa goes to the yankees ???

[cougarjake13]

peavy named nl cy young winner (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7451354)


and sabathia was the al cy young winner

[cougarjake13]

wow no love for the departed joe nuxhall ????



nuxhall dead (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-obit-nuxhall&prov=ap&type=lgns)

[King Hippos Bandaid]

wow no love for the departed joe nuxhall ????



nuxhall dead (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-obit-nuxhall&prov=ap&type=lgns)


was gonna post a thread but it is better here, I figured Gvac would be crying

RIP Joe Nuxhall

:king:

[cougarjake13]

was gonna post a thread but it is better here, I figured Gvac would be crying

RIP Joe Nuxhall

:king:

its a shame that a guy like him is gone and we have smucks like baroid and aroid still around

[TheMojoPin]

its a shame that a guy like him is gone and we have smucks like baroid and aroid still around

How does this even make sense? He was just shy of 80. It's not like he was a contemporary of them to even serve as a contrast.

"Aroid?" Seriously?

[cougarjake13]

How does this even make sense? He was just shy of 80. It's not like he was a contemporary of them to even serve as a contrast.

"Aroid?" Seriously?

that he was a quality guy

not on the field performance

[TheMojoPin]

that he was a quality guy

not on the field performance

I know what you were talking about, but it's not like there still aren't plenty of good guys in baseball. It just doesn't make sense to compare him in any way to the guys you did.

Hey, real mods, you might wanna update the thread title to reflect that the season is over or lock it up. Just FYI.

[cougarjake13]

I know what you were talking about, but it's not like there still aren't plenty of good guys in baseball. It just doesn't make sense to compare him in any way to the guys you did.

Hey, real mods, you might wanna update the thread title to reflect that the season is over or lock it up. Just FYI.

i know it was the beer talkin i suppose

[cougarjake13]

angels trade ss cabrera to white sox for garland


are they making room for A-Rod ???



http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7466208

[TheMojoPin]

Why would they making room for ARod? They already need a 3rd baseman.

[epo]

angels trade ss cabrera to white sox for garland

are they making room for A-Rod ???

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7466208

Don't they have two top tier SS prospects?

[Bossanova]

HAHA. Take that epo. The Brewers just took Mota off of the Mets hands. Thank you

[epo]

HAHA. Take that epo. The Brewers just took Mota off of the Mets hands. Thank you

Your problem is that now you're stuck with Johnny Estrada!

HA! You deal with Mr. 7% caught stealing.

[Bossanova]

Your problem is that now you're stuck with Johnny Estrada!

HA! You deal with Mr. 7% caught stealing.

Well, we have been dealing with Mr 5% caught stealing for two years now

[cougarjake13]

Why would they making room for ARod? They already need a 3rd baseman.

i was thinking that he'd go back to short

[cougarjake13]

torrii hunter signs with the angels



http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7477188

[TheMojoPin]

Your problem is that now you're stuck with Johnny Estrada!

HA! You deal with Mr. 7% caught stealing.

Yeah, but then you thankfully picked up Jason Kendall and gave us a draft pick, and he'll be lucky if he throws out a single base stealer.

[epo]

Yeah, but then you thankfully picked up Jason Kendall and gave us a draft pick, and he'll be lucky if he throws out a single base stealer.

They did get a compensatory sandwich pick....but the Brewers give up nothing as Kendall is a class B free agent. He's only a stopgap until one of the young catchers is ready.

And with Kendall's arm (15%) throwing out runners, we actually double our chances over Estrada (7%)!

Is that depressing or what?

[BoondockSaint]

n/m

[epo]

Why do you keep saying that Estrada threw out 7% last year? He threw out 11 of 84 which is 13%.

Actually he threw out 6 of 79 runners, which is 7.6%.

Link to Estrada trade article with stat. (http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=688524)

Stat in article backed up by MLB bio. (http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player_career.jsp?player_id=283051)

So I keep saying it, cuz it's true.

[BoondockSaint]

Actually he threw out 6 of 79 runners, which is 7.6%.

Link to Estrada trade article with stat. (http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=688524)

Stat in article backed up by MLB bio. (http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player_career.jsp?player_id=283051)

So I keep saying it, cuz it's true.

His stats on MLB.com (http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/individual_stats_player.jsp?c_id=mlb&playerID=283051)say he threw out 11 of 84. Either that is wrong or I'm reading it wrong.

[TheMojoPin]

They did get a compensatory sandwich pick....but the Brewers give up nothing as Kendall is a class B free agent. He's only a stopgap until one of the young catchers is ready.

And with Kendall's arm (15%) throwing out runners, we actually double our chances over Estrada (7%)!

Is that depressing or what?

Kendall can no longer throw out runners at that rate. Trust me, I watched him with the Cubs last year. At the most he threw out one, and I doubt that he even got that. Runners basically stole at will on him.