2007 MLB Thread

[J.Clints]

TV Title champions number of titles held


Cubs……….5
Pirates…....5
Braves…....3
Cards………3
Mets……….2
Nat’ls………2
Reds……….1
Marlins……1
Dbacks…...1
Rockies…..1

Still no AL teams. This is great.

[cougarjake13]

i added an extra d back defeat of the pirates that didnt happen

so it should read as follows

40. d backs defeat the rockies to retain the tv title

41. Rockies defeat the d backs to become the new TV Title champions

42. rockies defeat the giants to retain the tv title

actually i know where i messed up 42 should be a second rockies victory over the d backs and 43 being the rockies retaining over the giants

it should be

40. d backs defeat the rockies to retain the tv title

41. Rockies defeat the d backs to become the new TV Title champions

42. rockies defeat the d backs to retain the tv title

43. rockies defeat the giants to retain the tv title

44. rockies defeat the giants again to retain the tv title

[cougarjake13]

hopefully the giants can pull it out tonight and bring the title back to shea

[midwestjeff]

i'll let CJ make the official update, but the rockies still have the title. just defeated STL in game one of a four game series after beating SF yesterday.

Messageboard Psychic: STL leaves Colorado with the belt back where it belongs.

We've got nothing else right now, so an imaginary title run is all i've got to hope for.
I'm really gonna miss those 90-100 win seasons. they were the best. Todd Wellemeyer is now a starter so they have a rotation consisting of four converted relievers. At this rate, I will be suiting up in mid-August and bringing my 60 mph heater in for the stretch run. i can't wait.

[cougarjake13]

actually i know where i messed up 42 should be a second rockies victory over the d backs and 43 being the rockies retaining over the giants

it should be

40. d backs defeat the rockies to retain the tv title

41. Rockies defeat the d backs to become the new TV Title champions

42. rockies defeat the d backs to retain the tv title

43. rockies defeat the giants to retain the tv title

44. rockies defeat the giants again to retain the tv title


45. rockies defeat the giants on sunday to retain

46. rockies defeat the cardinals on monday to retain the tv title


rockies have now got 6 consecutive title defenses, beating the old record of 5 earlier in the year by the chicago cubs

[TheMojoPin]

http://http://hirejimessian.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/frustration.jpg

[johnniewalker]

Chi sox are the worst team ever. Aardsma comes in and walks in the winning run bottom of the ninth bases loaded 2 outs. Holy shit they suck.

[weekapaugjz]

mlb blackout rules suck a fat cock. i was really looking forward to checking out the indians/sox game on espn tonight but because of the stupid blackout rules it's on espn news. you would think the indians would be on a lot in buffalo becaus cleveland's AAA team is here and gets a decent following from the city. i feel a lot of people would watch the indians in buffalo if they were on but mlb and their fucking blackout rules. it really pisses me off.

[J.Clints]

mlb blackout rules suck a fat cock. i was really looking forward to checking out the indians/sox game on espn tonight but because of the stupid blackout rules it's on espn news. you would think the indians would be on a lot in buffalo becaus cleveland's AAA team is here and gets a decent following from the city. i feel a lot of people would watch the indians in buffalo if they were on but mlb and their fucking blackout rules. it really pisses me off.

On my dish network I have The regional FSN package and there are a lot of fucking black out game. I hate that shit.

[cougarjake13]

45. rockies defeat the giants on sunday to retain

46. rockies defeat the cardinals on monday to retain the tv title


rockies have now got 6 consecutive title defenses, beating the old record of 5 earlier in the year by the chicago cubs


47. rockies defeat the cards to retain the tv title

and now have 7 consecutive title defenses

[weekapaugjz]

On my dish network I have The regional FSN package and there are a lot of fucking black out game. I hate that shit.

the rules don't make sense. last season before time warner picked up SNY all the met's games were blacked out as well. i only got to see like 10 mets games last year because of it. toronto which is only an hour and a half way is blacked out, pittsburgh is blacked out too which is a just about four hours, and cleveland which is about three are all fucking blacked out. all of the teams within easy driving distance from buffalo were blacked out. that doesn't make sense for the MLB to shut out people in towns without a pro team who may want to follow a team in a different city. it sucks.

[J.Clints]

the rules don't make sense. last season before time warner picked up SNY all the met's games were blacked out as well. i only got to see like 10 mets games last year because of it. toronto which is only an hour and a half way is blacked out, pittsburgh is blacked out too which is a just about four hours, and cleveland which is about three are all fucking blacked out. all of the teams within easy driving distance from buffalo were blacked out. that doesn't make sense for the MLB to shut out people in towns without a pro team who may want to follow a team in a different city. it sucks.

we have no team and almost all teams are blacked out sucks.

[weekapaugjz]

we have no team and almost all teams are blacked out sucks.

i feel your pain. before last year i would have to wait for sunday night baseball hoping it was a good game or watch the yankees (blech) on YES.

[J.Clints]

i feel your pain. before last year i would have to wait for sunday night baseball hoping it was a good game or watch the yankees (blech) on YES.

I get the reds games so I am happy.......that is it though...well the Braves on tbs too....

[cougarjake13]

I get the reds games so I am happy.......that is it though...well the Braves on tbs too....

i get the braves on tbs

the cubs/ whitesox on wgn

the drays and marlins on a few channels

and whatever espn game they decide to play

[midwestjeff]

i don't understand all of this "blackout" talk but it seems a little racist.
I prefer to listen to baseball (reason #2 for keeping XM--R&F #1), although during last year's beautiful championship run, i did watch a couple games at the bar.
In four hours we will be crowning a new tv title champ. It's time for the Cards to turn it around. If they can just make it to .500 i think they could win the division!

[midwestjeff]

I called it. pujols and edmonds went back to back. i take back all of my hatred for Wellemeyer(for now). i'll sleep like a babylove tonight.

I'd post this type of shit in the Cards thread but it's so lonely in there. No one cares? great.

[cougarjake13]

47. rockies defeat the cards to retain the tv title

and now have 7 consecutive title defenses

48. cardinals defeat the rockies and become new tv title champs

[cougarjake13]

TV Title champions number of titles held


Cubs……….5
Pirates…..5
Cards………4
Braves…..3
Mets……….2
Nat’ls………2
Reds………..1
Marlins……1
Dbacks…..1
Rockies….1

[Crippler]

Chi sox are the worst team ever. Aardsma comes in and walks in the winning run bottom of the ninth bases loaded 2 outs. Holy shit they suck.

Fear not, the Yankees make a visit at the beginning of next week and in all likelihood they'll fresh off another beating at the hands of the BoSawx. That should be good for at least 2 of 3 wins for the ChiSox.

[crb1]

Time for some Ichiro-isms (although his translator may deserve more credit):

On a fly ball missed the other day:

"The ball became the same color as the sky,'' he said, through interpreter Ken Barron. "So, I wasn't able to see it ... I was sending mental signals for the ball not to come my way, because during that time of day it's impossible for me to see the ball so I lacked mental signals. I lacked in that area.'

"Usually, I don't send mental signals," Ichiro replied. "So, because this is the first time, I thought, please don't come my way."

An older quote from a period when the Mariners were struggling:

"If there is a problem, we need to notice what creates the problem. The problem usually isn't just on the cover. You need to look much deeper. For example, if we're talking about a tree and the tree has a problem, you need to look at the root. But you cannot see the root. The mistake is to keep watering the fruit. That's not going to solve anything."

[cougarjake13]

48. cardinals defeat the rockies and become new tv title champs

49. Cardinals defeat the rockies and retain the tv title

[midwestjeff]

49. Cardinals defeat the rockies and retain the tv title

Well, it's about time. Title defense starts in 15 minutes. Things are looking up for the Cards. Second place is second place, even if the Central sucks. First place is a theirs by the all-star break. you heard it here first.

[TheMojoPin]

You gotta be fucking kidding me...how much more pathetic can this team get? (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Mwhhn7toKFI&mode=related&search=)

Here's a longer and better clip. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8CQm6DVmcc&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fhirejimessian%2Ecom%2F)

Chicago pitcher Carlos Zambrano, apparently angered by Michael Barrett's defensive mistakes, took a swing at the catcher in a dugout scuffle Friday in the Atlanta Braves' 8-5 win over the Cubs.

Zambrano (5-5) and Barrett had to be separated after a skirmish in the dugout in the fifth inning. The Braves had just scored five runs, including one on a combination passed ball and throwing error by Barrett. After the Cubs players came off the field, a frustrated Zambrano confronted Barrett in the dugout, said something, and then slapped the catcher.

"It was about the pitch that Barrett missed," Cubs manager Lou Piniella said about why tempers flared. "We broke it up. I walked Zambrano up [into the clubhouse] with a couple players. I was back on the bench watching the ballgame, and they got into it again in the clubhouse. It's something that shouldn't happen, but it did. We'll address it [Saturday]."

Barrett suffered a cut lip during the clubhouse confrontation. He was supposed to stay in the game, but instead was taken to a local hospital for treatment. Neither player was available for comment after the game.

Unvelievable. Too idiots who are playing WAY crappier than they should be acting like children. I swear, I was at the game and I felt like fucking Randy Quaid in Major League II, trying to jump into the fray when the Indians are duking it out in the dugout. All that was missing was a sloshed and bitter Bob Euker talking about it giving "the team the spark it needs."

Morons.

[johnniewalker]

You gotta be fucking kidding me...how much more pathetic can this team get? (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Mwhhn7toKFI&mode=related&search=)

Here's a longer and better clip. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8CQm6DVmcc&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fhirejimessian%2Ecom%2F)



Unvelievable. Too idiots who are playing WAY crappier than they should be acting like children. I swear, I was at the game and I felt like fucking Randy Quaid in Major League II, trying to jump into the fray when the Indians are duking it out in the dugout. All that was missing was a sloshed and bitter Bob Euker talking about it giving "the team the spark it needs."

Morons.

I don't get it, what was with the slap. It wasn't Barrett's fault he gave up 13 hits. I still think they are better than the white sox,they have to pull out of this don't they. I'm going to the Sunday game are you making that one?

[Kevin]

You gotta be fucking kidding me...how much more pathetic can this team get? (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Mwhhn7toKFI&mode=related&search=)

Here's a longer and better clip. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8CQm6DVmcc&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fhirejimessian%2Ecom%2F)



Unvelievable. Too idiots who are playing WAY crappier than they should be acting like children. I swear, I was at the game and I felt like fucking Randy Quaid in Major League II, trying to jump into the fray when the Indians are duking it out in the dugout. All that was missing was a sloshed and bitter Bob Euker talking about it giving "the team the spark it needs."Morons.

You mean you didnt hear Ron Santo saying it??

[TheMojoPin]

I don't get it, what was with the slap. It wasn't Barrett's fault he gave up 13 hits. I still think they are better than the white sox,they have to pull out of this don't they. I'm going to the Sunday game are you making that one?

Nah. I have tickets, but I gotta work. I wont be able to see another one live until the 12th against the Mariners.

[TheMojoPin]

You mean you didnt hear Ron Santo saying it??

The noises Santo were making by then weren't even remotely close to being understandable.

[Bulldogcakes]

"It was about the pitch that Barrett missed," Cubs manager Lou Piniella said about why tempers flared. "We broke it up. I walked Zambrano up [into the clubhouse] with a couple players. I was back on the bench watching the ballgame, and they got into it again in the clubhouse. It's something that shouldn't happen, but it did. We'll address it [Saturday]."


Lou went on to add "Tell Z thats my job, not his. If anyone around here is going to go around attacking players, its me. And if he has a problem with that he can step outside and we'll settle this right here and now!"



BTW-Mojo, have you heard the same stuff I have? That Z is nursing an injury and doesn't want to miss time because its a contract year? He's clearly not pitching as well as he did last year and I see today as 2 month's worth of frustration coming out all at once.

Here (http://www.nj.com/columns/ledger/graziano/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/1180240107218120.xml&coll=1&thispage=3)
2. Carlos Zambrano, RHP, Cubs. He may not, actually, turn out to be a free agent, if the Cubs' ownership situation clears up enough to get his five-year, $85 million contract done. But in the meantime, Zambrano had a 5.61 ERA, 43 strikeouts and 31 walks in his first 61 innings of the year. Some who have watched him throw wonder if he's short-arming his delivery and hiding an injury. If he's hurt, he's not likely to improve soon.

If thats true, he should ask Wade Miller how that works out.

[cougarjake13]

49. Cardinals defeat the rockies and retain the tv title

50. Cardinals defeat the astros to retain the tv title

[cougarjake13]

Tv title history


1. Cards defending champs
2. Mets win first game and then sweep to become new champs
3. Mets win game 1 but lose next 2, braves are new champs
4. Braves beat the nats and regain the tv title
5. Braves beat nats again, retain the tv title
6. winner and miracously new tv title champs .... the washington nationals !!!
7. Mets defeat nats to become new tv title champs
8. Nationals defeat the mets to regain the tv title
9. Nationals beat braves on monday to retain the tv title
10. Braves defeat nats, crowned new tv title champs for the 2nd time


11. Atlanta retains the tv title wed night against the cubs
12. Cubbies dethrone the champion braves to become new TV Title champions
13. Cards defeat the cubbies to become new tv title champs
14. Cubs defeat Cards.
15. Cards defeat Cubs. T.V. Title is on the line tuesday vs. Cincinnati
16. Gvac's and j clints Reds defeat the cards to become new tv title champs
17. WINNER and new TV title champs....... the st louis cardinals
18. Cardinals sucessfully defend the title against the reds
19. Cubs defeat the cards on fri night to become the new TV title champs
20. Cubs retain title aginst st louis on Saturday


21. Pirates defeat cubs to become new champs.
22. Cubs win the continued game from yesterday 8-6 to regain the title.
23. Cubs beat the Pirates 7-1 to retain the title.
24. Cubs defeat nats and retain the tv title
25. Cubs defeat nats to retain the tv title
26. Cubs defeat the nats to retain the tv title
27. Pirates defeat cubs to become new tv title champs
28. Cubs defeat the Pirates to regain the TV title.
29. Pirates upset the champs to reclaim the tv title
30. Braves defeat pirates to become the new tv title champs


31. Braves beat the pirates to retain the title
32. Pirates defeat the braves to become new tv title champs
33. Pirates retain against Marlins in a big, big way. 7-0 final score.
34. winner and neeeeeeeeewwwww TV Title Champeens..... theeeee Florida Marlins
35. Marlins beat the pirates and retain the tv title
36. Winner and new TV Title champions .... the Pirates
37. Pirates defeat the D Backs to retain the TV Title
38. winner and first time tv title champs .... the diamondbacks
39. D backs defeat the pirates to retain the tv title
40. D backs defeat the rockies to retain the tv title


41. Rockies defeat the d backs to become the new TV Title champions
42. Rockies defeat the d backs to retain the tv title
43. Rockies defeat the giants to retain the tv title
44. Rockies defeat the giants again to retain the tv title
45. Rockies defeat the giants on sunday to retain
46. Rockies defeat the cardinals on monday to retain the tv title
47. Rockies defeat the cards to retain the tv title
48. Cardinals defeat the rockies and become new tv title champs
49. Cardinals defeat the rockies and retain the tv title
50. Cardinals defeat the astros to retain the tv title

[TheMojoPin]

Lou went on to add "Tell Z thats my job, not his. If anyone around here is going to go around attacking players, its me. And if he has a problem with that he can step outside and we'll settle this right here and now!"



BTW-Mojo, have you heard the same stuff I have? That Z is nursing an injury and doesn't want to miss time because its a contract year? He's clearly not pitching as well as he did last year and I see today as 2 month's worth of frustration coming out all at once.

Here (http://www.nj.com/columns/ledger/graziano/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/1180240107218120.xml&coll=1&thispage=3)


If thats true, he should ask Wade Miller how that works out.

I don't know a single Cubs fan or analyst who doesn't think he's injured. His arm slot is totally different, in a way typically indicative of shoulder pain or discomfort. Ultimately, it could be something mild, but he's going out of his way to change how he throws, and it's not working. That said, his biggest problem is still thinking he needs to strike out every big batter, be they a superstar player or someone coming up in a key situation. He seems unwilling to grasp that sometimes he just needs to put the ball in play instead of trying to get cute as if he's a finesse pitcher. I'm just sick of the headcase shit more than anything since all it does is hurt his trade value.

[Fallon]

Zambrano/Barrett Fight
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[johnniewalker]

Nah. I have tickets, but I gotta work. I wont be able to see another one live until the 12th against the Mariners.

Ah, i was going to say i got 4 tickets and wasn't using 2 of them if you wanted them. We're up in section 411 on the third base line. Oh well how this series is going...

[TheMojoPin]

The circus continues:

CHICAGO -- Cubs manager Lou Piniella was ejected Saturday in the eighth inning for arguing a call at third base, his first of the season and 60th of his career.

Angel Pagan doubled to lead off the Cubs eighth against Atlanta pitcher Rafael Soriano. Pagan tried to get to third on a passed ball charged to Braves catcher Jason Saltalamacchia, but he recovered in time to throw Pagan out at third.

Piniella disagreed, and ran out to argue. He threw his cap, and got nose to nose with third base umpire Mark Wegner, yelling. Piniella kicked some dirt on Wegner's shoes, and home plate umpire Bruce Froemming stepped between the two.

Piniella got in a couple more kicks, booting his cap twice into shallow left. (Video footage included at the top of the article in the link) (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070602&content_id=2000738&vkey=news_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc)

[Bulldogcakes]

The circus continues:

After a disgusting ugly Yankee loss, thank you for cheering me up.

If you're at the ballpark and something like that happens, you feel like you got you're money's worth. Could be a lousy game, you're team is losing and kicking the ball all over the place. Then Lou comes out and you feel better about everything. As a proud Cub fan, you might find that embarrassing or even humiliating. But for the rest of us stuff like that is really funny.

[lleeder]

I agree that was the highlight of the day for me. Lou really gets a nice shade of reddish purple when hes mad.

[TheMojoPin]

After a disgusting ugly Yankee loss, thank you for cheering me up.

If you're at the ballpark and something like that happens, you feel like you got you're money's worth. Could be a lousy game, you're team is losing and kicking the ball all over the place. Then Lou comes out and you feel better about everything. As a proud Cub fan, you might find that embarrassing or even humiliating. But for the rest of us stuff like that is really funny.

I don't find it embarassing per se...I'm just really frustrated that this team is SO crappy that things like the players fighting each other and Lou going apeshit are the only things worth watching.

[cougarjake13]

I agree that was the highlight of the day for me. Lou really gets a nice shade of reddish purple when hes mad.

i still say that minor league braves manager tirade was better

[J.Clints]

i still say that minor league braves manager tirade was better

I agree....

[cougarjake13]

50. Cardinals defeat the astros to retain the tv title


51. Astros defeat the Cardinals and become new tv title champs

[cougarjake13]

TV Title champions number of titles held


Cubs……….5
Pirates…..5
Cards………4
Braves…..3
Mets……….2
Nat’ls………2
Reds………..1
Marlins……1
Dbacks…..1
Rockies….1
Astros....1

[cougarjake13]

51. Astros defeat the Cardinals and become new tv title champs

52. Cardinals defeat the Astros to regain the tv title

[cougarjake13]

with the cardinals victory earlier today against houston the now have moved into a 3 way tie for most titles this season


TV Title champions number of titles held


Cubs……….5
Pirates…..5
Cards………5
Braves…..3
Mets……….2
Nat’ls………2
Reds………..1
Marlins……1
Dbacks…..1
Rockies….1
Astros....1

[TheMojoPin]

Look, I hate to be a Negative Nelly, but can we move the TV title stuff to its own thread? I know it's baseball related, but I doubt I'm the only one looking to come to this thread for more specific baseball talk. It's getting kind of annoying to see the thread updated and it's just the TV Title standings. I'm not trying to be a dick, but it's bordering on being fantasy sports-esque.

[Fallon]

pwned by Mojo Standings

cougarjake13........1

[J.Clints]

Look, I hate to be a Negative Nelly, but can we move the TV title stuff to its own thread? I know it's baseball related, but I doubt I'm the only one looking to come to this thread for more specific baseball talk. It's getting kind of annoying to see the thread updated and it's just the TV Title standings. I'm not trying to be a dick, but it's bordering on being fantasy sports-esque.

I like it coug. Keep it up. There is only one ass complaining.

[TheMojoPin]

I like it coug. Keep it up. There is only one ass complaining.

How am I being an ass? I didn't say I didn't like it...I was just wondering if a seperate TV title thread could be started. It's a long baseball season and this thread is more for general discussion of the players/managers/games/transactions/etc. as opposed to fantasy-esque like standings/games. I'm not telling cougar to stop or calling him out or trying to "own" him...I'm just asking if he wouldn't mind starting a seperate thread for it.

[johnniewalker]

You missed a good one mojo. I couldn't believe derosa hit that one out, and then soriano and Lee crushed one. Cool to see that lineup look as good as it does on paper. Granted it was cormier, but man did they kick the piss out of them.

[TheMojoPin]

You missed a good one mojo. I couldn't believe derosa hit that one out, and then soriano and Lee crushed one. Cool to see that lineup look as good as it does on paper. Granted it was cormier, but man did they kick the piss out of them.

Yeah, I saw the last hour or so, but they had already scored 9 by then. Good to see Marshall pitched a good one, too. Who knows, maybe all the crap of the last few days was the "spark" this stupid team needed to win a few...I hope so, since it's my boys vs. your boys now! Good time to make up some ground...

[cougarjake13]

Look, I hate to be a Negative Nelly, but can we move the TV title stuff to its own thread? I know it's baseball related, but I doubt I'm the only one looking to come to this thread for more specific baseball talk. It's getting kind of annoying to see the thread updated and it's just the TV Title standings. I'm not trying to be a dick, but it's bordering on being fantasy sports-esque.


i put it in here because i didnt think it deserved its own thread

especially since most of the time it'll just be me posting in it


would you prefer i do a weekly update then ???

[J.Clints]

i put it in here because i didnt think it deserved its own thread

especially since most of the time it'll just be me posting in it


would you prefer i do a weekly update then ???

the only reason I look at this thread is for the update. keep it up.

[cougarjake13]

the only reason I look at this thread is for the update. keep it up.

thanks for the vote of confidence

[midwestjeff]

the only reason I look at this thread is for the update. keep it up.

agreed. it's not like it is that obtrusive. i think the entire Cub nation is just losing their cool right now, it is June after all. :wink:

[TheMojoPin]

i put it in here because i didnt think it deserved its own thread

especially since most of the time it'll just be me posting in it


would you prefer i do a weekly update then ???

Dude, trust me, I'm not telling you to not do it all, despite how others are responding to what I said. I actually get a kick out of the idea and enjoy following it. I think it's such a good idea that it DOES actually deserve it's own thread, stickied and all. It doesn't matter if most of the posts are yours there since it's a game for the board that a bunch of us are tracking. Plus, I think having its own thread would make it for other people to fill in and keep things updated if you can't.

Just some ideas. Nuts to the naysayers who are acting like I'm trying to shut you down.

[cougarjake13]

curt schilling one out away from a no hitter against oaklnad

[cougarjake13]

curt schilling one out away from a no hitter against oaklnad

ohhh so sorry

[cougarjake13]

anyone watching the MLB draft ??????

[TheMojoPin]

Yeah, I did.

3RD BASEMAN FTW.

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/images/2007/06/07/Ao66wJf2.jpg

CHICAGO -- The Chicago Cubs were looking for offensive talent Thursday with the No. 3 pick in the 2007 First-Year Player Draft, and they found it in high school third baseman Josh Vitters.

Vitters, who turns 18 on Aug. 27, was ranked as the top pure high school hitter by Baseball America and batted .371 with eight homers and 25 RBIs for Cypress (Calif.) High School. Baseball America also touted him as the player closest to playing in the Major Leagues among all high school pitchers and position players.

The 6-foot-3, 195-pound Vitters was considered one of the top hitting prospects in the Draft because of his compact swing, bat speed and athleticism.

*Crosses fingers*

See you in a few years, kid.

[K.C.]

The Phillies took LHP Joe Savery from Rice University.

Given the Phillies track record, he could be their next Cole Hamels, or their next Tyler Green...nothing in between.

[cougarjake13]

mets didnt have a 1st round pick and i cant find any picks they may have made


the mlb draft really gets no love huh ?

[weekapaugjz]

mets didnt have a 1st round pick and i cant find any picks they may have made


the mlb draft really gets no love huh ?

they drafted ESD's cousin, Dan McDonald, in the eighth round. a pitcher out of seton hall. they talked about it on today's show for a minute.

[cougarjake13]

they drafted ESD's cousin, Dan McDonald, in the eighth round. a pitcher out of seton hall. they talked about it on today's show for a minute.

oh well

it was great being a mets fans for a lil while

[TheMojoPin]

mets didnt have a 1st round pick and i cant find any picks they may have made


the mlb draft really gets no love huh ?

It's tough to get really psyched over this draft as opposed to basketball or football since it's suaully going to be a few years until these guys can play in the bigs, IF they even make it in the first place.

[cougarjake13]

It's tough to get really psyched over this draft as opposed to basketball or football since it's suaully going to be a few years until these guys can play in the bigs, IF they even make it in the first place.

yeh i know

even if they were coming out college like in the nfl it'd still be a few years if they ever make it

[TheMojoPin]

yeh i know

even if they were coming out college like in the nfl it'd still be a few years if they ever make it

Even though the jump from school sports to the pros is big in all of the major sports, in baseball it's astronomical, just from the length of the season and using wood bats instead of metal alone.

[cougarjake13]

Even though the jump from school sports to the pros is big in all of the major sports, in baseball it's astronomical, just from the length of the season and using wood bats instead of metal alone.

plus there's 3 or 4 levels to get throught before the big leagues

there's no minor leagues in nfl, nba, or nhl

i guess you could count the nbdl, nfl europe, and wha as minor league but they're not affiliated so much with teams as the minors and majors in baseball

although the nfl europe does have some alliances with some teams

[TheMojoPin]

Cubs beating the Braves in Atlanata, 7-1, and Soriano has hit 3 HR's tonight.

[TheMojoPin]

Cubs won last night, 9-1, putting them back in 2nd and 5 games behind the Brewers.

Here's footage of Soriano knocking 3 out last night, with some nice opposite field action going on. (http://media.putfile.com/Alfonso-Soriano-3-HRs---6807) He is scary hot right now, and with Cubs' top rospect Felix Pie now permanantly playing CF and batting #2, the Cubs' 1-5 hitters are pretty deadly.

[Bulldogcakes]

It's tough to get really psyched over this draft as opposed to basketball or football since it's usually going to be a few years until these guys can play in the bigs, IF they even make it in the first place.

True, but it makes all the sense in the world to get these guys names out there. Most (if not all) teams own their farms clubs, so it could help them with attendance down there. And the more you raise their profile, the more you raise their value either as the highly touted prospect you bring up or as future trade bait. Plus it gives fans something else to get involved with and talk about, which is always good for your sport. Worst thing that can happen is people stop hoping or caring.

And BTW-How many of the first round draft picks in Football or Basketball make it in the league after 5 years? Half? Less than that? I seem to remember that in Football after 5 years as many players made it in the league from the 3rd round as did the first round. And forget about basketball, I think less than half of 1st rounders still have jobs after a few years. Below that you might as well go straight to Europe.

I'm surprised Baseball didn't do this sooner. Every other major sports league does. Marketing these players is good for business.

[MHasegawa]

A's win 7 of last 8, fucked up Zito twice. Seattle will fall soon enough and we'll take over the angels by august, the same ol chapter to another AL West title.




(with the worst batting average ever)

[cougarjake13]

A's win 7 of last 8, fucked up Zito twice. Seattle will fall soon enough and we'll take over the angels by august, the same ol chapter to another AL West title.




(with the worst batting average ever)

well hopefully this year they wont fizzle out in the playoffs, at least they won a playoff series last year

[Bulldogcakes]

Anyone else hear these rumors (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/) about Griffey going to the Braves

# Ken Griffey Jr. would approve a trade to Atlanta and might consider certain other teams. Junior is making $12.5MM this year and next, plus a $4MM buyout for '09. Quite a bit of the contract is deferred, also. $29MM over 2007-08 is still pretty steep, but now would be the right time to trade Griffey.


and Dunn going to the Dodgers?

Reds Taking Offers On Dunn

We kind of figured Reds slugger Adam Dunn might be available, given his $10.5MM salary and the Reds' 25-39 record. Today, Jon Heyman at SI.com confirmed that Dunn is "already out there as available," according to his "league sources." Heyman does not mention that Dunn's $13MM option for 2008 voids if he's traded.

While Dunn can technically play left field, he will more likely be used as a first baseman or DH by the acquiring team.

The White Sox are short on power this year, but may shift to sell mode soon and probably wouldn't want Dunn bumbling around in left field anyway. The Dodgers would make a great fit, but acquiring Dunn could require shifting Nomar to third base. He would then break down during his first round of fielding practice.

[crb1]

Anyone else hear these rumors (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/) about Griffey going to the Braves

and Dunn going to the Dodgers?

I hadn't heard the Griffey rumors, but I guess they would turn Matt Diaz into a bench guy and move either Francoeur or Griffey to LF. They're going to need a new CF this offseason, since A. Jones will almost definitely get an undeservedly-large contract somewhere else.

I have heard Dunn to the Dodgers, and Dye to the Dodgers as well. It doesn't sound like anything is really happening beyond just chatter with those deals though. It would be good for the Reds to clear both deals, since there should be a decent FA OF class this offseason.

[crb1]

Time for some Ichiro-isms (although his translator may deserve more credit):

On a fly ball missed the other day:

"The ball became the same color as the sky,'' he said, through interpreter Ken Barron. "So, I wasn't able to see it ... I was sending mental signals for the ball not to come my way, because during that time of day it's impossible for me to see the ball so I lacked mental signals. I lacked in that area.'

"Usually, I don't send mental signals," Ichiro replied. "So, because this is the first time, I thought, please don't come my way."

An older quote from a period when the Mariners were struggling:

"If there is a problem, we need to notice what creates the problem. The problem usually isn't just on the cover. You need to look much deeper. For example, if we're talking about a tree and the tree has a problem, you need to look at the root. But you cannot see the root. The mistake is to keep watering the fruit. That's not going to solve anything."

Updating this post no one read...here's another Ichiro quote (and it may be my favorite to date)...

"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying."

[johnniewalker]

I remember when Kevin used to have these rumor updates from insider and they were awesome. Any chance of a return?????

[cougarjake13]

Anyone else hear these rumors (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/) about Griffey going to the Braves




well if that happens then all griffey jr has to do is become a yankee before he retires and he'll complete the circle by playing for all the same teams his dad did

[Fezticle98]

I think it's beyond time to take the all-star balloting out of the hands of the fans. At least do something like the NFL, where fans, players, and coaches each count for 1/3 of the voting. The fans get the vote "wrong" too often, electing unworthy players based entirely on reputation rather than performance.

My proposal:

For starters: 1/3 each between fans, players, coaches
Reserves: voted by players (w/Final Man voting by fans)
Pitchers: by Manager

Limit All-Star rosters to 29 (from current 32, i believe)
Managers should hold a pitcher or 2 in reserve to avoid a tie, like a few years ago.
Not every team should automatically have representation. Sometimes, the Royals don't
deserve to have an All-star.
DH, regardless of NL or AL park.

I know some of these ideas are probably unpopular, but the All-star game has become a joke. It's still the best pro All-star game of any sport, but it's lost its luster.

[TheMojoPin]

Holy crap!

Big brawl between the Cubs and Padres...Chris Young nails Lee on the shoulder, talks some shit, Lee throws a haymaker, benches clear...this isn't going to end well.

[weekapaugjz]

Holy crap!

Big brawl between the Cubs and Padres...Chris Young nails Lee on the shoulder, talks some shit, Lee throws a haymaker, benches clear...this isn't going to end well.

nice! i can't wait to see the highlights.

[Kevin]

Holy crap!

Big brawl between the Cubs and Padres...Chris Young nails Lee on the shoulder, talks some shit, Lee throws a haymaker, benches clear...this isn't going to end well.

The only time the Cubs hit anything these days is when they fight..

[TheMojoPin]

Zambrano is starting for the Cubs...both sides have a no-hitter through 4...Peavy said before the game if he was on the mound today he'd drill someone for how Soriano watched his monster of a HR yesterday...Wells didn't like it, either.

This is nuts...what the hell does someone say to get a zen guy like Lee to take a swing?!?

Heh, Zambrano somehow had his belt off...I figure he was either whipping people with it or his massive hog.

Or both.

Sweet Lou got knocked over on his ass...Young tossed...insanity! I'm worried Zambrano is gonna take someone's head off if he comes back out to pitch!

[TheMojoPin]

The only time the Cubs hit anything these days is when they fight..

Actually, they've been doing pretty well. Something like 7 of their last 9, just won 3 in a row.

[Kevin]

Actually, they've been doing pretty well. Something like 7 of their last 9, just won 3 in a row.

Yea.. I know.. This joke would have been hysterical, 2 weeks ago..






I stink!

[weekapaugjz]

Zambrano is starting for the Cubs...both sides have a no-hitter through 4...Peavy said if e was on the mound today he'd drill someone for how Soriano watched his monster of a HR yesterday.

This is nuts...what the hell does someone say to get a zen guy like Lee to take a swing?!?

Heh, Zambrano somehow had his belt off...I figure he was either whipping people with it or his massive hog.

Or both.

Sweet Lou got knocked over on his ass...Young tossed...insanity! I'm worried Zambrano is gonna take someone's head off if he comes back out to pitch!

this sounds absolutely fantastic!

[TheMojoPin]

Peavy also tossed...Lee obviously out...sounds like Padres' hitting coach is gone, too. Zambrano is still in, so this could easily get ugly again real fast.

[TheMojoPin]

I hope Zambrano just focuses his rage into his pitching...he's been dominating all game already...no hits, just 1 walk and 5 strikeouts.

[weekapaugjz]

I hope Zambrano just focuses his rage into his pitching...he's been dominating all game already...no hits, just 1 walk and 5 strikeouts.

i love watching zambrano pitch. i wish we picked up wgn in buffalo so i could watch some more cubs games.

[TheMojoPin]

Ump got right in Zambrano's face right as the inning started and told him nothing would be tolerated.

[BoondockSaint]

Zambrano is a lunatic. Motherfucker was taking his belt out to whip someone.

[TheMojoPin]

Damn, I'm so pissed I could only see this game through the 5th.

Zambrano with a no-no into the 8th, only gives up 2 hits in a complete game...and yet, Cubs still lose, 1-0.

Morons.

[Bulldogcakes]

Peavy also tossed...Lee obviously out...sounds like Padres' hitting coach is gone, too. Zambrano is still in, so this could easily get ugly again real fast.

Here's a video link (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=270616116)

WHAT THE FUCK? It was edited, but WTF was Young doing following Lee up the first base line? That pitch was TOTALLY out of line, his best fastball right at his head. Lee had every right to be pissed and bark at him some.

Everyone should get suspended, but Young deserves more time.

[TheMojoPin]

Here's post-game reactions from the Cubs...coy Zambrano is hysterical. (http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-070616cubsvideo,1,2107736.htmlstory?coll=cs-cubs-headlines)

From what I'm reading, it seems Lee said something along the lines of "I know you threw at me on purpose," and Young responded along the lines of "and I'll do it again, now take your fucking base" and that's when Lee swung, which sounds about right, because I can't imagine someone getting a guy usually as zen-calm as Lee that riled with just some usual on-field jawing.

Suspensions are such BS when it comes to pitchers...if Lee misses, say 7 games, I think it's fair if Young also misses 5-7...yet odds are, that only has him miss 2 starts at the very most. Pitchers should be suspended per start or appearance, not just a lump of games that might not even make them miss any time.

I don't expect things to really continue for the Padres today since they have Maddux on the mound. Love the guy, but it's not like he can really do some damage with his fastball.

[TheMojoPin]

Cubs vs. Sammy tonight, with him just one HR away from 600.

I hope he nails it and the Cubs win.

[Fezticle98]

Not exactly a shock, but the Cubs trade Michael Barrett.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6941994?MSNHPHMA

Sadly, he was one of the few Cubs who could swing and hit:

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/8137/barrettajda5.jpg

[johnniewalker]

Not exactly a shock, but the Cubs trade Michael Barrett.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6941994?MSNHPHMA

Sadly, he was one of the few Cubs who could swing and hit:



I don't like the trade at all. Barret for all his shit is a pretty consistant hitter the last 3 years. Maybe there was a lot more to it. Wasnt the minor leaguer they got the messed up one who had to be changed from outfielder to pitcher?

[cougarjake13]

I don't like the trade at all. Barret for all his shit is a pretty consistant hitter the last 3 years. Maybe there was a lot more to it. Wasnt the minor leaguer they got the messed up one who had to be changed from outfielder to pitcher?

ironically he's going to the team that they just fought with

so now guys who were the enemy are now his teammates

[TheMojoPin]

Alright, way to go, Sammy! I love that I got to see him hit #600..."controversies," aside, the man is responsible for a ton of great, great baseball moments and memories growing up as a Cubs fan...hell, most of his time with them he was the ONLY reason to be a fan.

I hope his flag is flying over Wrigley one day.

[weekapaugjz]

i flipped over to espn just as he was hitting it. i have always loved sammy sosa.

[TheMojoPin]

I don't like the trade at all. Barret for all his shit is a pretty consistant hitter the last 3 years. Maybe there was a lot more to it. Wasnt the minor leaguer they got the messed up one who had to be changed from outfielder to pitcher?

Nah, the kid is still an OFer, but I think it's likely the Cubs might convert him because he's 19 and has a freaking cannon for an arm. He's very raw, but his ceiling is incredibly high.

Barrett wasn't coming back next year, and his bat has gone into the toilet. Guys slump, but he's stunk for about 70 games now. His bat was pretty average to crappy before his two really good years with the Cubs. He's on the wrong side of 30 and not a very good catcher, so this trade is pretty "meh" all around.

[TheMojoPin]

Wow, Sammy has now homered against every MLB team.

And it's fitting he hit it off Jason Marquis...Marquis caused a stink when he showed up this season, not only due to his history as a shitty pitcher, but because he took Sammy's number. The REAL #21 just took it back tonight.

[cougarjake13]

Wow, Sammy has now homered against every MLB team.

And it's fitting he hit it off Jason Marquis...Marquis caused a stink when he showed up this season, not only due to his history as a shitty pitcher, but because he took Sammy's number. The REAL #21 just took it back tonight.

thats funny

i wonder if this shit about corked bats and him not knowing english during the congressional hearings and possible steriods use

would he have his number retired by the cubs ???

[TheMojoPin]

thats funny

i wonder if this shit about corked bats and him not knowing english during the congressional hearings and possible steriods use

would he have his number retired by the cubs ???

He should.

Look, I wouldn't be shocked if he juiced. That said, of all the major suspects, he's the one with the least evidence of any kind directed at him...not even any heresay from people saying "I saw him do this" or "I got him this" or "I heard he did/got it," etc.. The basic argument amounts to "he got bigger." Well, unlike guys like Big Mac and Bonds, Sammy got bigger at an age when guys tend to be able to get bigger if they work at it. It's not like he was pushing 30 or more when his power really blossomed. His numbers rose steadily with each season, as did his size. Bottom line, the argument that he DIDN'T juice is just as strong, if not moreso, that he did.

And I'm not going to pretend like the corked bat thing didn't piss me off. That said, it's highly unlikely that it was something he did before this incident:

http://www.glennbeck.com/picoftheday/04-21-03-pod.jpg

After that beaning is when we first saw Sammy's numbers begin to really decline. Something got into his head and he moved away from the plate. He's still not as close to it now as he was in his heyday. It became MUCH easier for pitchers to strike him out and he had to also adjust his swing. For a guy like Sammy, so used to the center of attention and desperate not to lose it as he's in the middle of the first serious prolonged slump since his glory days had begun, it wouldn't surprise me if the one corked bat he had, for showboating during batting practice (something a lot of big hitters have), slipped into use. The investigation afterwards found only that bat had cork in it, and it's extremely unlikely it had been used any other time given that Sammy's style of hitting would have likely broken it the first time it faced a legit MLB fastball. So again, it really pissed me off and still does, but it was very likely a singular event.

And I'm not going to pretend I didn't have issues with the guy over his showboating and ego and "SamME" attitude...I can't count how many times I saw the Cubs lose a game like 10-1 and Sammy was the only one beaming the whole time because that 1 run was a HR or RBI he knocked in. No ballplayer is perfect, and Sammy had his flaws. But those flaws are so far outweighed by the sheer amount of astoundingly good and impressive baseball he produced for a team that desperately needed an identity on the field for the better part of a decade that the idea of the Cubs essentially pretending like he didn't exist insults every part of me that is a baseball fan, and more importantly, a Cubs fan.

His number should be retired and he should make the Hall in the 1st round.

[TheMojoPin]

Cubs beat the White Sox, 5-1.

Zambrano is a fucking pitching beast, today being his 4th stellar start in a row. 8 innings, 3 hits, 1 walk, 1 run, 1 ER, 13 k's. All 4 starts have been since the game where he got into the fight with Barrett in the dugout....and here are his numbers since then:

Z's last 3 starts:
25 IP, 2 ER, 8 hits. 26 K's, 7 walks, .60 WHIP, .72 ERA

Since the fight:
31.2 IP, 4 ER, 13 hits, 35 K's, 10 walks, .73 WHIP, 1.13 ERA

Unreal.

[Fallon]

ESPNews is reporting Rod Beck has died at 38.

[Fallon]

McGowan from the Jays lost a no-no in the 9th. Heartbreaking!

[cougarjake13]

ESPNews is reporting Rod Beck has died at 38.

man that sucks

the article said he had drug problems, i wonder if thats what did him in

[Bulldogcakes]

GM Williams on White Sox: 'I'm tired of watching this' (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2915084)

"Something's got to happen. I'm tired of watching this," he said before the Cubs completed a sweep with a 3-0 win on Sunday. "Change needs to happen and change is going to happen. When that happens, I don't know."

A Chicago Sun-Times story Sunday said the White Sox could be on the verge of trading left-hander Mark Buehrle, who can become a free agent after this season. According to the report, the Boston Red Sox are the most serious suitors right now.

Asked Sunday if Buehrle was going to be traded to Boston, Williams replied: "Not today."




Williams said there were 10 players on his roster that other teams had asked about recently. The White Sox have lost 22 of 27 games, fallen 13 games under .500 and are 14 games out of first place in the AL Central. Outfielder Jermaine Dye can also become a free agent after the season.

"We have some players that a lot of teams want. And people are starting to be very aggressive," Williams said, adding that it wouldn't be easy to trade some of the club's top players.


Williams reiterated that manager Ozzie Guillen's job is safe.

So now it's the Reds, Orioles and White Sox who will be selling.

[TheMojoPin]

ESPNews is reporting Rod Beck has died at 38.

That sucks. I know he had drug problems, so that's likely what did him in...guy was a great closer for the Cubs when they had one of their rare good years in '98...converted 51 saves out of 58 attempts. He always came across as a ton of fun and a really cool guy in interviews.

Well, I'd like to think the Cubs swept those goddamn Black Sox for him today...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/SwedeCarlson/Cubs/cubsweep-1.jpg

[TheMojoPin]

GM Williams on White Sox: 'I'm tired of watching this' (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2915084)



So now it's the Reds, Orioles and White Sox who will be selling.

Sucks to be the Orioles now that Tejada is pretty much worth squat. He was already naturally declining in power...still good, but now with the wrist injury and his age his value will shoot way down. Suck it, Angelos.

[Bulldogcakes]

Sucks to be the Orioles now that Tejada is pretty much worth squat. He was already naturally declining in power...still good, but now with the wrist injury and his age his value will shoot way down. Suck it, Angelos.

Naturally? Would you like to rephrase that? (http://thesteroidera.blogspot.com/search/label/Miguel%20Tejada)

He was also named by Canseco in his book.

[TheMojoPin]

Tejada is obviously a good enough player that he kept the hitting going to an impressive level even after the crackdowns. It's not like his power suddenly vanished or saw a huge drop-off. We've seen a steady decline indicative of a player at a tough fielding spot getting older. Did he juice? I don't know. Didn't he also lie about his age?

[IMSlacker]

Just heard this while watching the Cubs/Rockies game tonight

There will be a record seven pitchers starting games tomorrow who are over the age of forty.

Roger Clemens
Greg Maddux
Jamie Moyer
John Smoltz
Woody Williams
Tom Glavine
Kenny Rogers

[cougarjake13]

Just heard this while watching the Cubs/Rockies game tonight

There will be a record seven pitchers starting games tomorrow who are over the age of forty.

Roger Clemens
Greg Maddux
Jamie Moyer
John Smoltz
Woody Williams
Tom Glavine
Kenny Rogers


damn too bad randy johnson's on the dl, they coulda had 8

[IMSlacker]

damn too bad randy johnson's on the dl, they coulda had 8

And David Wells started today.

[cougarjake13]

And David Wells started today.

yeh i was just looking up when his next start would be

who else is out there ???

[IMSlacker]

who else is out there ???

According to espn.com (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/pitching?amp;seasonType=2&type=reg&sort=ERA&split=0&season=2007&pos=all&hand=a&league=mlb&ageMin=40&ageMax=51&minip=0) Tim Wakefield and Curt Schilling are the only other ones who've pitched enough to qualify for the ERA title (Clemens doesn't qualify, of course).

edit: There's also Orlando Hernandez who has 11 starts. I think that's it for 40+ starters.

[MHasegawa]

big hurt hits his 500th homer and biggio gets hit 3000, to have that happen in the same day is pretty fuckin cool

[IMSlacker]

big hurt hits his 500th homer and biggio gets hit 3000, to have that happen in the same day is pretty fuckin cool

Not for my co-worker who has tickets for tomorrow night's Astros' game. She was positive that Friday was going to be the night.

[cougarjake13]

According to espn.com (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/pitching?amp;seasonType=2&type=reg&sort=ERA&split=0&season=2007&pos=all&hand=a&league=mlb&ageMin=40&ageMax=51&minip=0) Tim Wakefield and Curt Schilling are the only other ones who've pitched enough to qualify for the ERA title (Clemens doesn't qualify, of course).

edit: There's also Orlando Hernandez who has 11 starts. I think that's it for 40+ starters.

damn wake is over 40 ??? had no clue i knew he was up there but i didnt think he was over 40 yet

[oh_kee_pa]

Has anyone else noticed an abundance of night games on Saturday nights this year vs. last year?

i blame it on the fox 3:55 tv deal,
all the west coast games are forced to be on at night

[cougarjake13]

not to bust balls but why not put this in the mlb thread ???


as for the sat games theres nothing much else on so i think its great to have a bunch of games

[Fallon]

I've noticed their are less 1pm games on Saturday. I don't like it!

[Tall_James]

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[Marc with a c]

ha.

i was not expecting that. he was wrist deep in that shit yo.

[J.Clints]

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What did I miss?

[BoondockSaint]

Mike Hargrove resigns as Mariners manager. (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/2007/07/01/2007-07-01_hargrove_resigns_from_surging_mariners.html)

[lleeder]

Mike Hargrove resigns as Mariners manager. (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/2007/07/01/2007-07-01_hargrove_resigns_from_surging_mariners.html)

Thats very bizarre. Maybe he has family or health issues. How could he lose his passion when they are so fucking hot right now?

[J.Clints]

Mike Hargrove resigns as Mariners manager. (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/2007/07/01/2007-07-01_hargrove_resigns_from_surging_mariners.html)

Why they are having a good season.

[cougarjake13]

Mike Hargrove resigns as Mariners manager. (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/2007/07/01/2007-07-01_hargrove_resigns_from_surging_mariners.html)

Thats very bizarre. Maybe he has family or health issues. How could he lose his passion when they are so fucking hot right now?

man i hope we dont hear he committed suicide and murdered his family
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[xample]

NL has a nice set of All-Star OF starters just announced

Beltran, Griffey, Bonds

[cougarjake13]

nice

reyes, beltran and wright made the starting lineup

[epo]

NL has a nice set of All-Star OF starters just announced

Beltran, Griffey, Bonds

In the Year 2000 that would have been amazing. Bleh.

[lleeder]

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[Tall_James]

What did I miss?

The Cub teammate reaching up between Aramis Ramirez's legs and giving his junk a playful tug.

[J.Clints]

I see it now. omg

[7fttall500+]

The fact that Holiday from the Rockies is not starting for the NL All-Stars is a damn shame...and no I am not a Rockies fan just think he deserves it more than the 3 named.

[xample]

In the Year 2000 that would have been amazing. Bleh.

i could care less of the year.... if you're still able to perform at a high level and the fans vote you in... you deserve it.

[Fallon]

The Cincinnati Reds have fired manager Jerry Narron.

[Marc with a c]

The Cincinnati Reds have fired manager Jerry Narron.

hire gvac

[J.Clints]

The Cincinnati Reds have fired manager Jerry Narron.

:drunk::thumbup::clap::drunk::thumbup::clap::drunk ::thumbup::clap::drunk::thumbup::clap:

[J.Clints]

GVAC and Clints can run the team

[TheMojoPin]

GVAC and Clints can run the team into the ground.

Fixed.

[Earlshog]

Post 191....

So far so good... Well except for Texas... Fucking Kennedy killers...



Predictions

NL
East - NY
Central - Milwaukee
West - LA
wildcard - Arizona

AL
East - Boston
Central - Cleveland
West - LA
wildcard - Texas

[TheMojoPin]

The Cub teammate reaching up between Aramis Ramirez's legs and giving his junk a playful tug.

Holy crap, I kept missing that.

Jesus God, Izturius is fuckin' digging for gold! Uhhhhh...what th-?!?

[cougarjake13]

Post 191....

So far so good... Well except for Texas... Fucking Kennedy killers...



Predictions

NL
East - NY
Central - Milwaukee
West - LA
wildcard - Arizona

AL
East - Boston
Central - Cleveland
West - LA
wildcard - Texas


nice job

[lleeder]

Wow Mike Hargrove walking out on the Mariners sure helped cool them down. They lost bad to Kansas City tonight 17-3.

[cougarjake13]

Wow Mike Hargrove walking out on the Mariners sure helped cool them down. They lost bad to Kansas City tonight 17-3.

wow the chiefs did that to the seahawks with brodie croyle as their qb ???

[epo]

Holy crap, I kept missing that.

Jesus God, Izturius is fuckin' digging for gold! Uhhhhh...what th-?!?

I thought Felix Pie was bad everytime he went to the plate!

[TheMojoPin]

I thought Felix Pie was bad everytime he went to the plate!

What am I missing? That's not Pie...

[epo]

What am I missing? That's not Pie...

I mention Pie as I've seen him hit in person a few times. My regular seats at Miller Park are on the third base side....and Felix is a left-handed hitter. That kid, when preparing to hit either has the world's largest dick to set into place or has a strange fascination with holding his genitalia. It's so uncomfortable that I didn't mention it and strangers around me started making commentary.

[TheMojoPin]

I mention Pie as I've seen him hit in person a few times. My regular seats at Miller Park are on the third base side....and Felix is a left-handed hitter. That kid, when preparing to hit either has the world's largest dick to set into place or has a strange fascination with holding his genitalia. It's so uncomfortable that I didn't mention it and strangers around me started making commentary.

Oh yeah, he does grab the junk a lot. That said, however, during the horrible Neifi Perez years, he put everyone's junk-grabbing to shame. Dude had his hands on his cup more than he did on the bat.

[IMSlacker]

Oh yeah, he does grab the junk a lot. That said, however, during the horrible Neifi Perez years, he put everyone's junk-grabbing to shame. Dude had his hands on his cup more than he did on the bat.

Maybe it was the steroids (http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-070706cubsperez,1,2632039.story?coll=cs-cubs-headlines) that caused Neifi to grab his junk so much.

[Bulldogcakes]

Minnesota beats Chicago by two Field Goals (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=270706204)

and its not even football season!

[cougarjake13]

Minnesota beats Chicago by two Field Goals (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=270706204)

and its not even football season!

ahh beat ya to the football analogy by 17 minutes

[TheMojoPin]

Maybe it was the steroids (http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-070706cubsperez,1,2632039.story?coll=cs-cubs-headlines) that caused Neifi to grab his junk so much.

Haw-haw-haw!

Statistically, it can be argued that Neifi just might be the worst hitter in the history of MLB.

[cougarjake13]

Haw-haw-haw!

Statistically, it can be argued that Neifi just might be the worst hitter in the history of MLB.

so maybe the mendoza line becomes the neifi line ???

[TheMojoPin]

so maybe the mendoza line becomes the neifi line ???

Actually, King Kaufman with Salon.com created the Neifi Index, but I can't find it online without signing up for Salon.

[IMSlacker]

Actually, King Kaufman with Salon.com created the Neifi Index, but I can't find it online without signing up for Salon.

Here's the Hardball Times article from a couple of years ago making their case for Neifi being among the worst hitters of all time. (http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/the-real-chase/)

Of course, he's not the worst hitter of all time. There have been plenty of hitters worse than him, they just didn't stick around in the majors very long.

[Doctor Z]

The Minnesota Twins scored 32 runs today.

[J.Clints]

The Minnesota Twins scored 32 runs today.

more than the vikings scored in any game last year......

[cougarjake13]

more than the vikings scored in any game last year......

barely

they scored 31 twice and 30 once

[J.Clints]

barely

they scored 31 twice and 30 once

hell I was joking.

[cougarjake13]

hell I was joking.

i know but i have this weird compulsion where someone posts someting about sports and i have to look it up to see if its true or not

[J.Clints]

i know but i have this weird compulsion where someone posts someting about sports and i have to look it up to see if its true or not

ohh I know but its so sad that its true

[cougarjake13]

ohh I know but its so sad that its true

it is, it is

but hey now they got adrian" i'm one good tackle away from a career ending injury" peterson

[Bulldogcakes]

Good story (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/)

Blog Gets Through To Felix Hernandez

If you've watched any Felix Hernandez starts prior to today, you probably noticed a pattern. He tries to establish his fastball early on, throwing the pitch constantly. His heater is a fine pitch and plenty fast, but he leaves it up in the zone sometimes. And a 96 mph fastball can be easy to hit when you see ten of them in a row (relatively speaking - obviously I still couldn't hit it). Hernandez has an amazing offspeed repertoire, especially his curveball.

The die-hard fans at U.S.S. Mariner have been painfully aware of this trend for quite some time. Frustration boiled over on June 27th, when Dave Cameron wrote a post: An Open Letter To Rafael Chaves. Chaves is the Mariners' pitching coach. The letter pleaded for Chaves to make Felix mix up his pitches early on.

Cameron probably never anticipated that Chaves would actually read the letter. But he did, and the pitching coach actually gave a copy to Felix for him to read. Chaves has been trying to hammer this point home with Hernandez, but the letter helped reinforce the need for better pitch selection. Hernandez tossed eight scoreless innings today, crediting the letter for his early success. How cool is that? Blogs actually can make a difference. Open sentence to Dave Cameron: Mariners fans, fantasy baseball owners, and baseball fans in general thank you for getting through to The King. Next up, teach Rich Hill a third pitch.


Gives us all some hope that somebody, somewhere is listening

[cougarjake13]

Good story (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/)



Gives us all some hope that somebody, somewhere is listening

wow thats amazing

good for them

[Bulldogcakes]

Damn how did that happen?

[cougarjake13]

wow

the rare and elusive 8 minutes apart double post

[Justice4all]

Well, it looks like Shea Hillenbrand is looking for another home. The douche. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/07/09/angels.hillenbrand.ap/index.html)

[cougarjake13]

Well, it looks like Shea Hillenbrand is looking for another home. The douche. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/07/09/angels.hillenbrand.ap/index.html)

is he trying to break reggie sanders record ???

[Kevin]

Ichiro could make $100M in deal with Mariners (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2932131)


The Mariners' turnaround may have changed the mind of the team's biggest star.



Ichiro

Multiple media reports in Seattle are reporting that Ichiro Suzuki and the Mariners are on the verge of a five-year contract extension. The Seattle Times says that the deal could be worth almost $100 million.


Fucking M's.. 20MILLION PER???

Arods Price tag is about to go WAAAAAAAAAAY UP!

[cougarjake13]

Ichiro could make $100M in deal with Mariners (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2932131)


The Mariners' turnaround may have changed the mind of the team's biggest star.



Ichiro

Multiple media reports in Seattle are reporting that Ichiro Suzuki and the Mariners are on the verge of a five-year contract extension. The Seattle Times says that the deal could be worth almost $100 million.


Fucking M's.. 20MILLION PER???

Arods Price tag is about to go WAAAAAAAAAAY UP!

isnt this the same team that didnt want to pay a rod that kinda money ???

and now there gonna give it to ichiro ???

i mean ichiro is a great player and table setter but no where near arod

[BoondockSaint]

isnt this the same team that didnt want to pay a rod that kinda money ???

and now there gonna give it to ichiro ???

i mean ichiro is a great player and table setter but no where near arod


Yeah but that was back when nobody made that kind of money.

[Kevin]

Yeah but that was back when nobody made that kind of money.

Didnt manny sign a huge deal either that year or before that?? 20per? Mo Vaughn had a huge deal too.. That was the year of the crazy deals..

[Bulldogcakes]

Ichiro could make $100M in deal with Mariners (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2932131)


The Mariners' turnaround may have changed the mind of the team's biggest star.



Ichiro

Multiple media reports in Seattle are reporting that Ichiro Suzuki and the Mariners are on the verge of a five-year contract extension. The Seattle Times says that the deal could be worth almost $100 million.


Fucking M's.. 20MILLION PER???

Arods Price tag is about to go WAAAAAAAAAAY UP!

Damn, I had just read 72 for 4 here (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/) about a hour ago. Now they have it at 100, too. Seattle is out of their minds. He's 34 and plays a speed game. He doesn't walk, he doesn't hit HR's, he basically beats out alot of grounders. I remember reading somewhere that he's lead the league in infield singles every year since he got here. He loses a step or two and he's fucking useless. Stupid.

[Bulldogcakes]

Fascinating read (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/07/15/SPGCGR0PT91.DTL)

Showing how twisted baseball's salary structure has become, Mark Buehrle's new $56 million contract over four years is considered a bargain, a hometown discount, a steal of a deal.

No wonder star players are waiting in line to extend their contracts.

The only question in the wake of Buehrle's re-signing with the White Sox is, why did he bother using an agent? He could have walked into general manager Kenny Williams' office and gotten that figure, which is less than half of the amount the Giants committed to another lefty, Barry Zito.

Like Zito when he signed, Buehrle is 28 with six straight seasons of 200-plus innings. Zito had 102 wins, Buehrle 103. Yet, not only did Buehrle get $70 million less than Zito -- an average of $4 million less per year over three fewer years -- but if the agent's commission is 4 percent, he lost another $2.24 million to the guy who oversaw the low-balling.

Its really amazing how little rhyme or reason there is to the salary structure in baseball.

[Marc with a c]

cubs just traded for jason kendall.

rick sutcliffe told me.

[MHasegawa]

damn, so kurt suzuki is only catcher considering piazza's been on the dl since fuckin april

[cougarjake13]

cubs just traded for jason kendall.

rick sutcliffe told me.

guess he's the replacement for barrett

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7029038

[IMSlacker]

damn, so kurt suzuki is only catcher considering piazza's been on the dl since fuckin april

The A's get Rob Bowen, the guy the Cubs got from the Padres for Barrett.

[Bulldogcakes]

Zambrano Expects To Stay With Cubs (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/)

Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune has some quotes up today from Carlos Zambrano, and they strongly indicate he'll sign a contract extension to stay with the Cubs once the season ends. Specifically, he said there's a "90% chance" he re-signs.

Good news for Cubbie fans, bad for Mets fans.

[cougarjake13]

Good news for Cubbie fans, bad for Mets fans.

with the way he's pitched this year he woulda worked out as well as his brother



























obviously joking, i'd still take him

[Bulldogcakes]

HEY MOJO! CUBAN IS TRYING TO BUY THE CUBS, SELIG AND REINSDORF ARE BLOCKING HIM AND YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT THIS? NOTHING? (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2934920)

[Bossanova]

Anyone else with Directv enjoying the free week of games on extra innings

[BoondockSaint]

Anyone else with Directv enjoying the free week of games on extra innings

It be free on my Time Warner too.

[Bossanova]

It be free on my Time Warner too.

Thats awesome. I'm glad they do this from time to time. Really makes waiting for 10:30 Met games go by faster

[BoondockSaint]

Thats awesome. I'm glad they do this from time to time. Really makes waiting for 10:30 Met games go by faster

Yeah. It ends tomorrow I think.

[Bossanova]

Yeah. It ends tomorrow I think.

Yeah I think so, keeping an eye on the Braves right now

[cougarjake13]

It be free on my Time Warner too.

is it all cable outlets???

[Bossanova]

I googled it, and it seems like many city'a and many cable co"s are doing it.

[cougarjake13]

I googled it, and it seems like many city'a and many cable co"s are doing it.

i know they do it at least once a year but usually its early on like the first week of the season

[Bossanova]

i know they do it at least once a year but usually its early on like the first week of the season

Yeah, I always enjoy that too. I think this is like the start of their discount package and they try to grab you for the rest of the year

[cougarjake13]

Yeah, I always enjoy that too. I think this is like the start of their discount package and they try to grab you for the rest of the year

oh yeh its like 89 bucks or something

[El Mudo]

Mariners to be paying Ichiro through 2032 (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2941080)

[Fallon]

Yeah I think so, keeping an eye on the Braves right now

Braves are on TBS and ESPN like four times a week!

[TheMojoPin]

HEY MOJO! CUBAN IS TRYING TO BUY THE CUBS, SELIG AND REINSDORF ARE BLOCKING HIM AND YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT THIS? NOTHING? (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2934920)

I was at the beach for a week with no internet access and then the parents were in town! No time for internet love, Dr. Jones!

Went and saw the Cubs beat up on the Giants, 12-1, which was especially impressive since Lee started his suspension today and Aramis Ramirez sat out the game and Soriano did jack squat. Yeah, I know the Giants stink and were playing without Barry, but when your team beats a team, any team, by that much with Daryl Ward as your #3 hitter, that's not too shabby. Zambrano got his 11th win today, too.

Trust me, I heard the Cuban news while on vacation and it was like Christmas morning hearing that. Ultimately, I still think he'll get them if him and his group blow away the other bidders as predicted. There are issues in terms of how "private" this sale is...apparently there are ways it can be done where the other owners can't do squat in terms of deciding whether Cuban can buy the team or not. And yeah, I know Jerry hates him, but everyone who has looked at this agrees that Cuban is beyond good for baseball and his presence as a owner while ultimately make everyone more money, so keeping him out is ultimately incredibly shortsighted and stupid.

I've seen several analysts talk about how likely it would be that the Cubs would sign ARod if he opts out and Cuban buys the team. He'll likely be looking to make a big splash right away and that's about the biggest splash he could make and then some in terms of the FA market.

Cuban = more awesomer.

[Bulldogcakes]

I was at the beach for a week with no internet access and then the parents were in town! No time for internet love, Dr. Jones!



I've seen several analysts talk about how likely it would be that the Cubs would sign ARod if he opts out and Cuban buys the team. He'll likely be looking to make a big splash right away and that's about the biggest splash he could make and then some in terms of the FA market.

Cuban = more awesomer.

Excuses, excuses.

I agree that if Cuban gets the Cubs, I'd make them the favorite to get A-Rod. I don't know if you read the out of state papers much (I get them on a few "Yankee/MLB Rumors" type sites), but day by day owners are already dropping out of the A-Rod sweepstakes. McGowan in SF says he wants to "Rebuild, not reload". Moreno in LAA says he cant pay one guy 20% of his payroll, plus GM Stoneham and Scoscia don't want him. Also, Guerrero is coming up for an extension next year, so he'd have to pay both guys similar money and then it really doesn't make sense. Look up their revenues on Baseball Prospectus, LA, LAA and the Giants really can't afford him. The ChiSox may be interested but they're in rebuilding mode and I doubt A-Rod wants to go back to a Texas-like situation. We've been discussing this daily in the Yankee thread, if you want to reference the related articles there all there in the Yankee thread (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=61692&page=2) plus the YT part one.

The only teams that I think can realistically afford A-Rod are the Yanks, Cubs and BoSox. The Yanks say if he opts-out they wont bid on him. Most of the local sportswriters don't believe that, but the Yanks seem convinced A-Rod wants out. The Bosox could afford him, they have 41 mil coming off the books next year with 10 mil in salary bumps, giving them 31 to spend. Sounds perfect, right? But Red Sox GM Theo Epstein is a Bill James guy and doesn't believe in spending 20% of your payroll on one guy. He's been trying to trade Manny every off season for years for that reason (among others). I'm sure they'll bid, but only to bring up the price for the Yanks.

Let me give you a scenario though. A back room deal if you will. If the Yanks feel that Cuban would go after A-Rod they would add their names to the list of owners who would oppose his bid to buy the team. Or maybe not. Maybe they cut a deal with Cuban that they'll offer to BACK his bid for the team, if he offers to lay off A-Rod. It will be interesting to see who votes for him and who doesn't, and then we can all read into it what we will. But I actually don't believe the Yanks would go to that length to keep A-Rod.

I hope Cuban gets the Cubs because he'd be alot of fun and I think eventually he'll figure out a way to win it all. Plus he knows how to market a team like crazy and thats good for all of baseball.

[cougarjake13]

id love to see cuban owning the cubbies

its pretty much good for everyone in mlb

[TheMojoPin]

Excuses, excuses.

I agree that if Cuban gets the Cubs, I'd make them the favorite to get A-Rod. I don't know if you read the out of state papers much (I get them on a few "Yankee/MLB Rumors" type sites), but day by day owners are already dropping out of the A-Rod sweepstakes. McGowan in SF says he wants to "Rebuild, not reload". Moreno in LAA says he cant pay one guy 20% of his payroll, plus GM Stoneham and Scoscia don't want him. Also, Guerrero is coming up for an extension next year, so he'd have to pay both guys similar money and then it really doesn't make sense. Look up their revenues on Baseball Prospectus, LA, LAA and the Giants really can't afford him. The ChiSox may be interested but they're in rebuilding mode and I doubt A-Rod wants to go back to a Texas-like situation. We've been discussing this daily in the Yankee thread, if you want to reference the related articles there all there in the Yankee thread (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=61692&page=2) plus the YT part one.

The only teams that I think can realistically afford A-Rod are the Yanks, Cubs and BoSox. The Yanks say if he opts-out they wont bid on him. Most of the local sportswriters don't believe that, but the Yanks seem convinced A-Rod wants out. The Bosox could afford him, they have 41 mil coming off the books next year with 10 mil in salary bumps, giving them 31 to spend. Sounds perfect, right? But Red Sox GM Theo Epstein is a Bill James guy and doesn't believe in spending 20% of your payroll on one guy. He's been trying to trade Manny every off season for years for that reason (among others). I'm sure they'll bid, but only to bring up the price for the Yanks.

Let me give you a scenario though. A back room deal if you will. If the Yanks feel that Cuban would go after A-Rod they would add their names to the list of owners who would oppose his bid to buy the team. Or maybe not. Maybe they cut a deal with Cuban that they'll offer to BACK his bid for the team, if he offers to lay off A-Rod. It will be interesting to see who votes for him and who doesn't, and then we can all read into it what we will. But I actually don't believe the Yanks would go to that length to keep A-Rod.

I hope Cuban gets the Cubs because he'd be alot of fun and I think eventually he'll figure out a way to win it all. Plus he knows how to market a team like crazy and thats good for all of baseball.

Interesting theories. If we know anything, it's that most MLB owners are a cowardly and superstitious lot...they're incredibly unprecitable.

[cougarjake13]

st louis cards pitcher cris carpenter will have tommy john surgery and is out for the rest of the year and part of 2008 as well



http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7040426

[midwestjeff]

st louis cards pitcher cris carpenter will have tommy john surgery and is out for the rest of the year and part of 2008 as well



http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7040426

as if the season wasn't bad enough. i was looking for Carp and Mulder to return as two front end starters for the stretch run while other teams scrambled to trade for a 1-2 type guy. Granted Mulder sucks but he is definitely a two-guy in the current Cards shithouse of a rotation. I still have an inkling of hope for a turnaround but it is getting late. Go Brewers i guess. They are the only other defense against the Cubs winning the division.

[cougarjake13]

as if the season wasn't bad enough. i was looking for Carp and Mulder to return as two front end starters for the stretch run while other teams scrambled to trade for a 1-2 type guy. Granted Mulder sucks but he is definitely a two-guy in the current Cards shithouse of a rotation. I still have an inkling of hope for a turnaround but it is getting late. Go Brewers i guess. They are the only other defense against the Cubs winning the division.

its amazing how the formerly great oakland big 3 have all struggled since leaving

i know hudson had a good first year in atlanta but they've all struggled since then

maybe its b/c they left the AL ??? but that cant be , you'd think with the pitcher hitting and a usually weaker 7th and 8th hitters they'd be better

[midwestjeff]

the Mulder trade may be the worst trade by Jocketty (Cards GM) in the last few years. Haren is obviously a stud and Mulder has done very little since coming over. I don't remember who the other pieces of the trade were but these two were the main ones involved. I expect to see Mulder leave and flourish with the next team he's on.

I wonder if the three pitchers together had a clubhouse chemistry and rivalry that drove them to out-do each other and then when they were split up didn't have the same motivation. Maybe that's an obvious point, i'm no espn analyst.

[cougarjake13]

the Mulder trade may be the worst trade by Jocketty (Cards GM) in the last few years. Haren is obviously a stud and Mulder has done very little since coming over. I don't remember who the other pieces of the trade were but these two were the main ones involved. I expect to see Mulder leave and flourish with the next team he's on.

I wonder if the three pitchers together had a clubhouse chemistry and rivalry that drove them to out-do each other and then when they were split up didn't have the same motivation. Maybe that's an obvious point, i'm no espn analyst.

December 18, 2004: Traded by the Oakland Athletics to the St. Louis Cardinals for Danny Haren, Kiko Calero, and Daric Barton (minors).


i like your theory on the chemistry and outdoing each other

[midwestjeff]

December 18, 2004: Traded by the Oakland Athletics to the St. Louis Cardinals for Danny Haren, Kiko Calero, and Daric Barton (minors).


i like your theory on the chemistry and outdoing each other

Yeah so really it was Haren for Mulder with the Cards spending the money. I remember Calero being decent but probably not a big loss. As for Barton, no clue. I sure don't know how to deal with this shitty season. Larussa is close to the end of his contract, maybe this year or next, and i hope they don't completely flip the staff and go in a new direction. Re-signing Edmonds was respectable and the "right" thing to do but i was a little upset at the money they threw at him. their problems are bigger than that though. Eh, at least they stole the championship last year, that was fucking great.

[cougarjake13]

Yeah so really it was Haren for Mulder with the Cards spending the money. I remember Calero being decent but probably not a big loss. As for Barton, no clue. I sure don't know how to deal with this shitty season. Larussa is close to the end of his contract, maybe this year or next, and i hope they don't completely flip the staff and go in a new direction. Re-signing Edmonds was respectable and the "right" thing to do but i was a little upset at the money they threw at him. their problems are bigger than that though. Eh, at least they stole the championship last year, that was fucking great.



exactly so you'll have to something to grieve with

[Bulldogcakes]

Real GM sees the Cubbies being the most active at the trade deadline (http://www.realgmbaseball.com/src_trade_tracker.php)

[cougarjake13]

Real GM sees the Cubbies being the most active at the trade deadline (http://www.realgmbaseball.com/src_trade_tracker.php)

so real gm has the mets getting livan and garland

add that to glavine, maine,perez, pedro and el duque,

what the hell are we gonna do with all these starters

i see maybe getting one but not both

[Bulldogcakes]

so real gm has the mets getting livan and garland

add that to glavine, maine,perez, pedro and el duque,

what the hell are we gonna do with all these starters

i see maybe getting one but not both

In that case, if the Mets made one deal for a starter I don't think they'd pursue a second one. But I think that tells you that they are clearly looking for one, and have a choice of options. So I'd expect something to happen one way or the other.

[cougarjake13]

In that case, if the Mets made one deal for a starter I don't think they'd pursue a second one. But I think that tells you that they are clearly looking for one, and have a choice of options. So I'd expect something to happen one way or the other.

oh yeh i dont doubt that

just in his predictions he predicted both guys coming to the mets

[cougarjake13]

craig biggio has decided to hang them up at years end

great team player, made all star games at 2 positions...catcher, second base


him and bagwell made the astros relevant again


http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7023088

[Kevin]

Real GM sees the Cubbies being the most active at the trade deadline (http://www.realgmbaseball.com/src_trade_tracker.php)

Haven't we learned from last year and the years past that these so called "exports" have no fucking idea what they are saying.. They just throw shit out. Led by you know who.. Yours and Snoogans car's boy!

[cougarjake13]

lofton going back to cleveland (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7066476)



iguchi new phils 2b (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7066722)

[Bulldogcakes]

Astros trade Wheeler for Wiggington
(http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/)

UPDATE: Wigginton will be used as the primary third baseman; you have to expert Morgan Ensberg to be gone soon.

We expected both players to be traded, but not for each other. Today, the Astros traded 29 year-old reliever Dan Wheeler to the Devil Rays for 29 year-old supersub Ty Wigginton. By my count, Wheeler reaches free agency after the 2008 season and Wiggy after 2009.

Also, it appears that Atlanta is going to get Teixera

[cougarjake13]

Astros trade Wheeler for Wiggington
(http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/)



Also, it appears that Atlanta is going to get Teixera

i was wondering why the astros would make a trade for wiggy, being 10 1/2 out of the division and 11 games behind in the wild card

but after reading that i see why

[TheMojoPin]

Carloa Zambrano is an insane beast. Got his 14th win today, best in all of baseball, and his ERA down around 3.40 after having the worst possible month and a half. Then he beats Barrett's ass and he's been almost perfect ever since. What a weirdo.

Wow, Brewers melting down hard against the Cards...just gave up 5 runs in the bottom of the 9th, losing 9-5.

[Snoogans]

Carloa Zambrano is an insane beast. Got his 14th win today, best in all of baseball, and his ERA down around 3.40 after having the worst possible month and a half. Then he beats Barrett's ass and he's been almost perfect ever since. What a weirdo.

Wow, Brewers melting down hard against the Cards...just gave up 5 runs in the bottom of the 9th, losing 9-5.

walk year for zambrano?

[TheMojoPin]

walk year for zambrano?

Maybe. I think they sign him.

[cougarjake13]

walk year for zambrano?

yeh i think he only signed a one year deal last year

[Snoogans]

i dont think there is a guy you havent said you dont think that. You are gonna sign Z and ARod, why not Torii hunter to play with jones again, and i here schilling is available.

[midwestjeff]

Wow, Brewers melting down hard against the Cards...just gave up 5 runs in the bottom of the 9th, losing 9-5.

great fucking game. great fucking weekend. I was writing this season off but this series may be the first sign of a turnaround.
Or the pirates will sweep the cards next week and it will be right back to misery.

[TheMojoPin]

i dont think there is a guy you havent said you dont think that. You are gonna sign Z and ARod, why not Torii hunter to play with jones again, and i here schilling is available.

There's no reason why they theoretically couldn't sign Z and ARod given the numbers being tossed around in terms of the sale. The people that will buy this team will have the money to easily afford those deals if they wanna spend it, period. If Cuban's group ends up owning them, it's a lock.

[Snoogans]

Cuban wont get the team, other owners would go bat shit

[TheMojoPin]

Cuban wont get the team, other owners would go bat shit

Actually, it all depends on how the team is sold. There are ways it can go down where Selig and the other owners can't do shit about it. And there are people talking now about how the people against it, basically Reinsdorff and maybe Selig, are going to essentially be "forced" to approve it because even the most minimal esitimates of Cuban as a baseball owner has everyone making more money.

[Snoogans]

If Cuban gets it its gonna be Cubs vs whoever from the AL every year. He would buy guys from other teams and put them in AAA for 10 mill a year just so they couldnt play against him

[TheMojoPin]

If Cuban gets it its gonna be Cubs vs whoever from the AL every year. He would buy guys from other teams and put them in AAA for 10 mill a year just so they couldnt play against him

It'll be a brave new world.

A better world.

Where things are just and right.

Amen.

[Snoogans]

yea right, he will sign all of these guys and then try to use them to start a US winter pro baseball league

[TheMojoPin]

yea right, he will sign all of these guys and then try to use them to start a US winter pro baseball league

The man could be a magic-powered robot Hitler clone for all I care, so long as he gets the Cubs a WS ring again.

[Snoogans]

no chance

[cougarjake13]

no chance

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/9/9a/160px-McMahonDVD.jpg

[Earlshog]

http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10274856

Braves make splash, land former All-Star 1B Teixeira

[cougarjake13]

http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10274856

Braves make splash, land former All-Star 1B Teixeira

i hope he breaks his arm in the batting cage

[TheMojoPin]

Cubs and Philly starting now on ESPN...only game on tonight if anyone kinda wants to get a game thread going here.

[HBox]

Cuba and Philly starting now on ESPN...only game on tonight if anyone kinda wants to get a game thread going here.

Go Cuba! Do it for Fidel, do it for fidel..........

[TheMojoPin]

Go Cuba! Do it for Fidel, do it for fidel..........

Heh...TAKE THAT, YANKEE PIGDOGS!

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Cuba and Philly starting now on ESPN...only game on tonight if anyone kinda wants to get a game thread going here.

Go Cuba! Do it for Fidel, do it for fidel..........


Viva la Cuba!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:king:

[midwestjeff]

Team W L PCT GB
Chi Cubs 57 49 .538 -
Milwaukee 58 50 .537 -
St. Louis 50 54 .481 6.0
Houston 46 61 .430 11.5
Cincinnati 45 63 .417 13.0
Pittsburgh 43 62 .410 13.5

MOTHERFUCKER!

Cubs in first place? Might as well fuck me in the ass.

[TheMojoPin]

Team W L PCT GB
Chi Cubs 57 49 .538 -
Milwaukee 58 50 .537 -
St. Louis 50 54 .481 6.0
Houston 46 61 .430 11.5
Cincinnati 45 63 .417 13.0
Pittsburgh 43 62 .410 13.5

MOTHERFUCKER!

Cubs in first place? Might as well fuck me in the ass.

Still two lonnnnnnnnng months left of baseball. Nothing is set in stone, my friend.

[Kevin]

Team W L PCT GB
Chi Cubs 57 49 .538 -
Milwaukee 58 50 .537 -
St. Louis 50 54 .481 6.0
Houston 46 61 .430 11.5
Cincinnati 45 63 .417 13.0
Pittsburgh 43 62 .410 13.5

MOTHERFUCKER!

Cubs in first place? Might as well fuck me in the ass.

How is this still not a mod quote?? Come on, WAKE UP PEOPLE!!

[IMSlacker]

Team W L PCT GB
Chi Cubs 57 49 .538 -
Milwaukee 58 50 .537 -
St. Louis 50 54 .481 6.0
Houston 46 61 .430 11.5
Cincinnati 45 63 .417 13.0
Pittsburgh 43 62 .410 13.5

MOTHERFUCKER!

Cubs in first place? Might as well fuck me in the ass.

Aramis for MVP! I had to change my avatar again. I can't decide who I've got a bigger man crush on, Ramirez or Zambrano. It's a toss up.

[TheMojoPin]

Aramis for MVP! I had to change my avatar again. I can't decide who I've got a bigger man crush on, Ramirez or Zambrano. It's a toss up.

Aramis Ramirez is easily one of the most underrated/ignored major players out there.

[cougarjake13]

Aramis for MVP! I had to change my avatar again. I can't decide who I've got a bigger man crush on, Ramirez or Zambrano. It's a toss up.

why choose

just have a 3 way

[Bulldogcakes]

Cubs in first place? Might as well fuck me in the ass.

Pffffffft.

Like you need the Cubs in first place to blurt that out.


Just the other day I heard you say "What! Its Tuesday at 6:15? Might as well fuck me in the ass"

[cougarjake13]

Pffffffft.

Like you need the Cubs in first place to blurt that out.


Just the other day I heard you say "What! Its Tuesday at 6:15? Might as well fuck me in the ass"

i believe that we should repalce PiMB with might as well fuck me in the ass

[IMSlacker]

I stole this from Rob G. over at The Cub Reporter (http://mvn.com/mlb-cubs/) (this is by far my favorite Cubs blog, never been too crazy about BCB). Looks like it should be a good series. Hopefully the Cubs won't just get steamrolled again like when they went to Shea earlier this year.

Category \ Mets \ Cubs
Runs Scored \ 503 (6th) \ 501 (7th)
Runs Allowed \ 457 (3rd) \ 442 (2nd)
Team Defensive Efficiency \ .728 (1st) \ .720 (2nd)
Starters ERA \ 4.02 (3rd) \ 3.80 (2nd)
Relievers ERA \ 3.53 (2nd) \ 3.84 (9th)
Batting Average \ .269 (7th) \ .269 (6th)
On-Base Percentage \ .335 (6th) \ .332 (8th)
Slugging Percentage \ .421 (6th) \ .410 (8th)


Sorry about the formatting. My HTML skills are non-existent.

[TheMojoPin]

I stole this from Rob G. over at The Cub Reporter (http://mvn.com/mlb-cubs/) (this is by far my favorite Cubs blog, never been too crazy about BCB). Looks like it should be a good series. Hopefully the Cubs won't just get steamrolled again like when they went to Shea earlier this year.

Category \ Mets \ Cubs
Runs Scored \ 503 (6th) \ 501 (7th)
Runs Allowed \ 457 (3rd) \ 442 (2nd)
Team Defensive Efficiency \ .728 (1st) \ .720 (2nd)
Starters ERA \ 4.02 (3rd) \ 3.80 (2nd)
Relievers ERA \ 3.53 (2nd) \ 3.84 (9th)
Batting Average \ .269 (7th) \ .269 (6th)
On-Base Percentage \ .335 (6th) \ .332 (8th)
Slugging Percentage \ .421 (6th) \ .410 (8th)


Sorry about the formatting. My HTML skills are non-existent.


BCB is stank. The Cubs Reporter is the best straight up info page...I post on North Side Baseball, which is probably their best online discussion board.

I'm going to the game today...if Kerry pitches, I just may tear up a bit.

[IMSlacker]

BCB is stank. The Cubs Reporter is the best straight up info page...I post on North Side Baseball, which is probably their best online discussion board.

I'm going to the game today...if Kerry pitches, I just may tear up a bit.

I used to post comments a lot at TCR, but every comments section seems to turn into an argument between the "stat heads" and the "old schoolers" and that got kind of old (plus my little brother is one of the most argumentative jerks who posts there, and I get embarrassed for him sometimes). I just read the articles now and don't even bother looking at the comments. I go to North Side Baseball from time to time. Never have posted there though.

Have fun at the game today. I have today off, so I'll be watching from home.

[Bulldogcakes]

BCB is stank.

Hey!




So how's your boy Z? Heard he left with an injury of some sort.