Obama isn't a Muslim and never has been

[ShowerBench]

<p>Just another right wing disinformation campaign, or &quot;lie.&quot;</p><p><a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp">http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp</a></p>

[AgnosticJihad]

<strong>ShowerBench</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Just another right wing disinformation campaign, or &quot;lie.&quot;</p><p><a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp">http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp</a></p><p>That's what I thought. Thank you for posting this.</p>

[Knowledged_one]

<p>are showerbench, fezjr, ronvegas and some of these guys one and the same person?</p><p>&nbsp;They all seem to post at the same time in the day and all contribute nothing</p>

[ShowerBench]

<strong>Knowledged_one</strong> wrote:<br /><p>are showerbench, fezjr, ronvegas and some of these guys one and the same person?</p><p>&nbsp;They all seem to post at the same time in the day and all contribute nothing</p><p>Fezjr said Obama is a Muslim.</p><p>Showerbench debunked the lie.</p><p>&quot;Some of these guys&quot; said other stuff.</p><p>Yep, same person.</p>

[mendyweiss]

<img src="http://www.montana.edu/tlecain/images/Malcolm%20X%20speaking.jpg" border="0" width="292" height="395" />We got these white devils fooled !!!!

[ShelleBink]

They're all me.

[Knowledged_one]

<strong>ShelleBink</strong> wrote:<br />They're all me. <p>Well that i can live with</p>

[Dan 'Hampton]

He should worry more about the fact that Hillary and him are going to be in a catfight over Hollywood lib money.&nbsp; Once again Babs will be sought after.

[AgnosticJihad]

<strong>Knowledged_one</strong> wrote:<br /><p>are showerbench, fezjr, ronvegas and some of these guys one and the same person?</p><p>&nbsp;They all seem to post at the same time in the day and all contribute nothing</p><p>Just in case that was aimed at me, I have been argueing with Fezjr on other threads, and largely disagree with him . Check other posts, then tell me if I contribute nothing.</p>

[fezjr]

<p>It's not about what he is now. He can be a fucking buddhist NOW. It's about where he comes from. It's OK to judge people on their skin color and religion. As a little big eared half breed child he spent time in radical muslim training camps for children, that is a fact.</p><p>&nbsp;You judge people on their political views, you judge people on their looks and weight and height but not the two sacred relics of religion and race? Wake up, sirs and madams.</p>

[ShelleBink]

<strong>Knowledged_one</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>ShelleBink</strong> wrote:<br />They're all me. <p>Well that i can live with</p><p>&nbsp;Yeh, when my multiple personalities come out, it gets a bit messy.&nbsp; my apologies. </p>

[Knowledged_one]

<strong>AgnosticJihad</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Knowledged_one</strong> wrote:<br /><p>are showerbench, fezjr, ronvegas and some of these guys one and the same person?</p><p>&nbsp;They all seem to post at the same time in the day and all contribute nothing</p><p>Just in case that was aimed at me, I have been argueing with Fezjr on other threads, and largely disagree with him . Check other posts, then tell me if I contribute nothing.</p><p>Wouldnt be the first time people have done it, arguing against themself, i am just saying all posts are in the same vein of politics and the same type of arguement over and over</p><p>Whether you are or not the Inspector will find out</p>

[AgnosticJihad]

<strong>Knowledged_one</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>AgnosticJihad</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Knowledged_one</strong> wrote:<br /><p>are showerbench, fezjr, ronvegas and some of these guys one and the same person?</p><p>&nbsp;They all seem to post at the same time in the day and all contribute nothing</p><p>Just in case that was aimed at me, I have been argueing with Fezjr on other threads, and largely disagree with him . Check other posts, then tell me if I contribute nothing.</p><p>Wouldnt be the first time people have done it, arguing against themself, i am just saying all posts are in the same vein of politics and the same type of arguement over and over</p><p>Whether you are or not the Inspector will find out</p><p>Well, I'm not so bored or lonely that I need to argue with myself publicly. I save that for when I alone at home, and feel the need to cry myself to sleep. All my posts are in the politics vein because politics interests me, that's all. And thanks for the little threat there. Nice way to welcome new members.</p><span class="post_edited"></span>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by AgnosticJihad on 2-28-07 @ 2:15 PM</span>

[ShowerBench]

Wouldnt be the first time people have done it, arguing against themself, i am just saying all posts are in the same vein of politics and the same type of arguement over and over<p>So it's a common (or known) practice to post arguments online and then post an opposing view to your own in response?</p><p>Political arguments have been the same argument over and over since time began.</p>

[Knowledged_one]

<strong>ShelleBink</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Knowledged_one</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>ShelleBink</strong> wrote:<br />They're all me. <p>Well that i can live with</p><p>&nbsp;Yeh, when my multiple personalities come out, it gets a bit messy.&nbsp; my apologies. </p><p>Just as the voices arent too loud to disturb others know what i mean</p>

[suggums]

<strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br /><p>It's OK to judge people on their skin color and religion. </p><p>&nbsp;no,it really isn't, just because racism and discrimination exist doesn't mean they are right </p>

[fezjr]

<strong>suggums</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br /><p>It's OK to judge people on their skin color and religion. </p><p>&nbsp;no,it really isn't, just because racism and discrimination exist doesn't mean they are right </p><p>I totally agree. Whatever a pretty girl says is true. Thank you for changing my mind on the subject.</p>

[suggums]

my girlfriend is hot, yes, but thats irrelevant

[FUNKMAN]

i think he's from the south though, Alobama if i'm not mistaken

[foodcourtdruide]

<strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br /><p>It's not about what he is now. He can be a fucking buddhist NOW. It's about where he comes from. It's OK to judge people on their skin color and religion. As a little big eared half breed child he spent time in radical muslim training camps for children, that is a fact.</p><p>&nbsp;You judge people on their political views, you judge people on their looks and weight and height but not the two sacred relics of religion and race? Wake up, sirs and madams.</p><p>None of this is ok. You are completely wrong about everything you said in this post. How old are you?</p>

[fezjr]

<p>Ofcourse it's ok, it's animal nature. Living things always judge and investigate. What kind of mood altering drugs are you on?</p><p>&nbsp;A zebra can't look at a lion and think &quot;That fucker might eat me, maybe I better run&quot;?</p>

[fezjr]

<p>A red ant can't look at a black ant and think &quot;Say, he is not from our colony, he might be hostile, lets gang up on him and tare him apart&quot;?</p><p>You gonna twist the nature of reality with 60s pot idealism? Good luck. I'm 20, sir.</p>

[FezsAssistant]

<p>Why are liberals do angry about this?&nbsp; Are they saying something's wrong with being Islamic?&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Knowledged_one]

<p>Because all muslims know</p><p>If you aint sunni then you aint shi'ite</p>

[foodcourtdruide]

<strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br /><p>A red ant can't look at a black ant and think &quot;Say, he is not from our colony, he might be hostile, lets gang up on him and tare him apart&quot;?</p><p>You gonna twist the nature of reality with 60s pot idealism? Good luck. I'm 20, sir.</p><p>We are not ants. We are humans. You are trying to justify racism and elitism. Everyone in the world is obviously not treated equally, however what is wrong for striving for that and revolting against racism and prejudice? </p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[foodcourtdruide]

<strong>Fez'sAssistant</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Why are liberals do angry about this?&nbsp; Are they saying something's wrong with being Islamic?&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Who's angry? In the views of many American's there is something wrong with being Islamic. This view will effect an election.</p>

[AgnosticJihad]

<strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Ofcourse it's ok, it's animal nature. Living things always judge and investigate. What kind of mood altering drugs are you on?</p><p>&nbsp;A zebra can't look at a lion and think &quot;That fucker might eat me, maybe I better run&quot;?</p><p>Human beings are distinct from animals in that we have the ability to think rationally. Part of thinking rationally involves making decisions about what is right and waht is wrong. If what what we deem &quot;moral&quot; clashes with our animal nature, humans have the ability to suppress that animal nature, at least to an extent. If it is true that it is animal nature to judge those who are different from ourselves, humans have the power to overcome that. Some of us have chosen to do that; you, apparently, have not.</p>

[fezjr]

<strong>foodcourtdruide</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br /><p>A red ant can't look at a black ant and think &quot;Say, he is not from our colony, he might be hostile, lets gang up on him and tare him apart&quot;?</p><p>You gonna twist the nature of reality with 60s pot idealism? Good luck. I'm 20, sir.</p><p>We are not ants. We are humans. You are trying to justify racism and elitism. Everyone in the world is obviously not treated equally, however what is wrong for striving for that and revolting against racism and prejudice? </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Racism is treating someone wrong because they are different from you. Elitism is treating someone wrong because you feel you are better than them. Judging someone is not wrong. Judging is gathering information.</p>

[fezjr]

Yes we aren't ants, good eye. We are living things however and as I said before, all living things judge. It is something we do.

[fezjr]

<strong>AgnosticJihad</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Ofcourse it's ok, it's animal nature. Living things always judge and investigate. What kind of mood altering drugs are you on?</p><p>&nbsp;A zebra can't look at a lion and think &quot;That fucker might eat me, maybe I better run&quot;?</p><p>Human beings are distinct from animals in that we have the ability to think rationally. Part of thinking rationally involves making decisions about what is right and waht is wrong. If what what we deem &quot;moral&quot; clashes with our animal nature, humans have the ability to suppress that animal nature, at least to an extent. If it is true that it is animal nature to judge those who are different from ourselves, humans have the power to overcome that. Some of us have chosen to do that; you, apparently, have not.</p><p>Morality is an opinion. In your moral opinion it is wrong to judge people on race and religion, in someone else's moral opinion it is wrong to abort a fetus as a result of rape. In my moral opinion, it is wrong to not publicly decapitate first degree murderers.</p><p>There is no reason to overcome judging someone aside from the fact that judging race and religion is anti-moral to liberals.</p>

[SinA]

<strong>Knowledged_one</strong> wrote:<br /><p>are showerbench, fezjr, ronvegas and some of these guys one and the same person?</p><p>&nbsp;They all seem to post at the same time in the day and all contribute nothing</p><p>that's just fez posting from home on his day off.</p>

[fezjr]

I don't know about the rest but I am a real person, just check my myspace.

[Knowledged_one]

<strong>SinA</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Knowledged_one</strong> wrote:<br /><p>are showerbench, fezjr, ronvegas and some of these guys one and the same person?</p><p>&nbsp;They all seem to post at the same time in the day and all contribute nothing</p><p>that's just fez posting from home on his day off.</p><p>I knew it i was right</p>

[foodcourtdruide]

<strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>foodcourtdruide</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br /><p>A red ant can't look at a black ant and think &quot;Say, he is not from our colony, he might be hostile, lets gang up on him and tare him apart&quot;?</p><p>You gonna twist the nature of reality with 60s pot idealism? Good luck. I'm 20, sir.</p><p>We are not ants. We are humans. You are trying to justify racism and elitism. Everyone in the world is obviously not treated equally, however what is wrong for striving for that and revolting against racism and prejudice? </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Racism is treating someone wrong because they are different from you. Elitism is treating someone wrong because you feel you are better than them. Judging someone is not wrong. Judging is gathering information.</p><p>It is racist to pre-judge someone based on your pre-conceived notions of a particular race. I don't see how defining racism, elitism and judging answers my question above. </p>

[foodcourtdruide]

<strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>AgnosticJihad</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Ofcourse it's ok, it's animal nature. Living things always judge and investigate. What kind of mood altering drugs are you on?</p><p>&nbsp;A zebra can't look at a lion and think &quot;That fucker might eat me, maybe I better run&quot;?</p><p>Human beings are distinct from animals in that we have the ability to think rationally. Part of thinking rationally involves making decisions about what is right and waht is wrong. If what what we deem &quot;moral&quot; clashes with our animal nature, humans have the ability to suppress that animal nature, at least to an extent. If it is true that it is animal nature to judge those who are different from ourselves, humans have the power to overcome that. Some of us have chosen to do that; you, apparently, have not.</p><p>Morality is an opinion. In your moral opinion it is wrong to judge people on race and religion, in someone else's moral opinion it is wrong to abort a fetus as a result of rape. In my moral opinion, it is wrong to not publicly decapitate first degree murderers.</p><p><strong>There is no reason to overcome judging someone aside from the fact that judging race and religion is anti-moral to liberals.</strong></p><p>Um.. you'd have a tough time finding non-liberals that will publically state that this is not anti-moral.</p>

[angrymissy]

<strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br /><p>It's not about what he is now. He can be a fucking buddhist NOW. It's about where he comes from. It's OK to judge people on their skin color and religion. <font style="background-color: #ffff00">As a little big eared half breed child</font> he spent time in radical muslim training camps for children, that is a fact.</p><p>&nbsp;You judge people on their political views, you judge people on their looks and weight and height but not the two sacred relics of religion and race? Wake up, sirs and madams.</p><p>You're disgusting.</p>

[angrymissy]

<strong>Fez'sAssistant</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Why are liberals do angry about this?&nbsp; Are they saying something's wrong with being Islamic?&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Oh give me a break.&nbsp; You know exactly why.&nbsp; It's because it was disinformation spread by the right to try and sway people away from voting for Obama.&nbsp; It's because it was a flat out lie.</p>

[Furtherman]

<p>This guy is an uneducated ass who came here today to start trouble.&nbsp; Ignore him.&nbsp; And no way is he from NYC.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Furtherman]

<strong>AgnosticJihad</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Knowledged_one</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>AgnosticJihad</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Knowledged_one</strong> wrote:<br /><p>are showerbench, fezjr, ronvegas and some of these guys one and the same person?</p><p>&nbsp;They all seem to post at the same time in the day and all contribute nothing</p><p>Just in case that was aimed at me, I have been argueing with Fezjr on other threads, and largely disagree with him . Check other posts, then tell me if I contribute nothing.</p><p>Wouldnt be the first time people have done it, arguing against themself, i am just saying all posts are in the same vein of politics and the same type of arguement over and over</p><p>Whether you are or not the Inspector will find out</p><p>Well, I'm not so bored or lonely that I need to argue with myself publicly. I save that for when I alone at home, and feel the need to cry myself to sleep. All my posts are in the politics vein because politics interests me, that's all. And thanks for the little threat there. Nice way to welcome new members.</p><span class="post_edited"></span><span class="post_edited">This message was edited by AgnosticJihad on 2-28-07 @ 2:15 PM</span> <p>I, for one, welcome you <strong>AgnosticJihad</strong> , because I think your posts have a nice dose of common sense.&nbsp; </p>

[AgnosticJihad]

<strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>AgnosticJihad</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Ofcourse it's ok, it's animal nature. Living things always judge and investigate. What kind of mood altering drugs are you on?</p><p>&nbsp;A zebra can't look at a lion and think &quot;That fucker might eat me, maybe I better run&quot;?</p><p>Human beings are distinct from animals in that we have the ability to think rationally. Part of thinking rationally involves making decisions about what is right and waht is wrong. If what what we deem &quot;moral&quot; clashes with our animal nature, humans have the ability to suppress that animal nature, at least to an extent. If it is true that it is animal nature to judge those who are different from ourselves, humans have the power to overcome that. Some of us have chosen to do that; you, apparently, have not.</p><p>Morality is an opinion. In your moral opinion it is wrong to judge people on race and religion, in someone else's moral opinion it is wrong to abort a fetus as a result of rape. In my moral opinion, it is wrong to not publicly decapitate first degree murderers.</p><p>There is no reason to overcome judging someone aside from the fact that judging race and religion is anti-moral to liberals.</p><p>Exactly. I said we must decide what is moral and what is not. That entails forming an opinion. That is why I said &quot;some of us have chosen to do that; you apparently have not&quot;. Morality is completely relative to each individual. And you're right, I do find it &quot;immoral&quot; to judge people based on thier race. I prefer to judge people based on who they are, what views they express, etc. as for judging people on thier religious beliefs, I do that all the time; I simply can't judge Obama because I don't know exactly what his beliefs are. For example, I assume you oppose abortion of fetuses that result from rape, and most likely on religious grounds; thus, I can judge you.&nbsp;I never said judging people was wrong, just that basing it on skin color is wrong.</p>

[fezjr]

<strong>angrymissy</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br /><p>It's not about what he is now. He can be a fucking buddhist NOW. It's about where he comes from. It's OK to judge people on their skin color and religion. <font style="background-color: #ffff00">As a little big eared half breed child</font> he spent time in radical muslim training camps for children, that is a fact.</p><p>&nbsp;You judge people on their political views, you judge people on their looks and weight and height but not the two sacred relics of religion and race? Wake up, sirs and madams.</p><p>You're disgusting.</p><p>Why? Am I a low fat diet?</p>

[AgnosticJihad]

<strong>Furtherman</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>AgnosticJihad</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Knowledged_one</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>AgnosticJihad</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Knowledged_one</strong> wrote:<br /><p>are showerbench, fezjr, ronvegas and some of these guys one and the same person?</p><p>&nbsp;They all seem to post at the same time in the day and all contribute nothing</p><p>Just in case that was aimed at me, I have been argueing with Fezjr on other threads, and largely disagree with him . Check other posts, then tell me if I contribute nothing.</p><p>Wouldnt be the first time people have done it, arguing against themself, i am just saying all posts are in the same vein of politics and the same type of arguement over and over</p><p>Whether you are or not the Inspector will find out</p><p>Well, I'm not so bored or lonely that I need to argue with myself publicly. I save that for when I alone at home, and feel the need to cry myself to sleep. All my posts are in the politics vein because politics interests me, that's all. And thanks for the little threat there. Nice way to welcome new members.</p><span class="post_edited"></span><span class="post_edited">This message was edited by AgnosticJihad on 2-28-07 @ 2:15 PM</span> <p>I, for one, welcome you <strong>AgnosticJihad</strong> , because I think your posts have a nice dose of common sense.&nbsp; </p><p>Why thank you, Furtherman. I do try.</p>

[Knowledged_one]

<p>Do you all need a room</p><p>And hey if you arent a make up guy and you keep posting here more power to you it just seemed suspicious the back and forth that two new posters have, because people do make fake accounts one of my favorites was DeathMetalHomo </p>

[AgnosticJihad]

<strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>angrymissy</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br /><p>It's not about what he is now. He can be a fucking buddhist NOW. It's about where he comes from. It's OK to judge people on their skin color and religion. <font style="background-color: #ffff00">As a little big eared half breed child</font> he spent time in radical muslim training camps for children, that is a fact.</p><p>&nbsp;You judge people on their political views, you judge people on their looks and weight and height but not the two sacred relics of religion and race? Wake up, sirs and madams.</p><p>You're disgusting.</p><p>Why? Am I a low fat diet?</p><p>Purely out of curiousity, how does one become a low fat diet? I'd like to know because I would love to become one.</p>

[foodcourtdruide]

<strong>angrymissy</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Fez'sAssistant</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Why are liberals do angry about this?&nbsp; Are they saying something's wrong with being Islamic?&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Oh give me a break.&nbsp; You know exactly why.&nbsp; It's because it was disinformation spread by the right to try and sway people away from voting for Obama.&nbsp; It's because it was a flat out lie.</p><p>He's using typical right-wing radio host logic. Reasoning with him won't work.</p>

[fezjr]

Typical right winger, uses Ds instead of an S. Right from Rush's playbook folks.

[Fat_Sunny]

<p><font size="2">A Person May Be Born Into The Islamic Or Catholic Religion, But They Can Elect At Any Point In Their Lives To Get Out Of The Religion, And Become Another Religion, Or Nothing At All.&nbsp; Religion Is A Choice.</font></p><p><font size="2">A Person Is Born Black, Or White, Or Half-Black, But They Can NOT At Any Point Elect To Change Their Race.&nbsp; Race Is Not A Choice.</font></p><p><font size="2">Fat Thinks It Is&nbsp;OK To Dis-Like People For What They Choose.</font></p><p><font size="2">Fat Thinks&nbsp;It Is&nbsp;Not OK&nbsp;To Dis-Like People For What They Did Not Choose.</font></p><p><font size="2"></font></p><p><font size="2"></font></p>

[AgnosticJihad]

<strong>Knowledged_one</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Do you all need a room</p><p>And hey if you arent a make up guy and you keep posting here more power to you it just seemed suspicious the back and forth that two new posters have, because people do make fake accounts one of my favorites was DeathMetalHomo </p><p>No problem. But,&nbsp;I assure you, I am not fezjr or anyone else.&nbsp;I simply happened to be checking the political threads when this one was started, and being pretty left-wing couldn't not comment.</p>

[Wallower]

<strong>AgnosticJihad</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Knowledged_one</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Do you all need a room</p><p>And hey if you arent a make up guy and you keep posting here more power to you it just seemed suspicious the back and forth that two new posters have, because people do make fake accounts one of my favorites was DeathMetalHomo </p><p>No problem. But, I assure you, <span style="background-color: #ffff00">I am not fezjr or anyone else.</span> I simply happened to be checking the political threads when this one was started, and being pretty left-wing couldn't not comment.</p><p>&nbsp;strictly speaking, if you're not fezjr then you <u>must</u> be someone else<br /> </p>

[AgnosticJihad]

<strong>Wallower</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>AgnosticJihad</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Knowledged_one</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Do you all need a room</p><p>And hey if you arent a make up guy and you keep posting here more power to you it just seemed suspicious the back and forth that two new posters have, because people do make fake accounts one of my favorites was DeathMetalHomo </p><p>No problem. But, I assure you, <span style="background-color: #ffff00">I am not fezjr or anyone else.</span> I simply happened to be checking the political threads when this one was started, and being pretty left-wing couldn't not comment.</p><p>&nbsp;strictly speaking, if you're not fezjr then you <u>must</u> be someone else</p><p>Obviously. What I meant was I am no one but AgnosticJihad.&nbsp;Though sometimes I wish that I were.</p>

[Knowledged_one]

<strong>Wallower</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>AgnosticJihad</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Knowledged_one</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Do you all need a room</p><p>And hey if you arent a make up guy and you keep posting here more power to you it just seemed suspicious the back and forth that two new posters have, because people do make fake accounts one of my favorites was DeathMetalHomo </p><p>No problem. But, I assure you, <span style="background-color: #ffff00">I am not fezjr or anyone else.</span> I simply happened to be checking the political threads when this one was started, and being pretty left-wing couldn't not comment.</p><p>&nbsp;strictly speaking, if you're not fezjr then you <u>must</u> be someone else</p><p>Check and Mate</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>and you are pretty left wing like jupiter is pretty much a planet</p><p>but hey thats your cross to bear</p><p>ummmmm bearcross's now im hungry</p>

[Wallower]

earl, we got any bearcrosses in here?

[fezjr]

Can we change the name of this thread? Obama was raised a muslim. Not that it matters because a black won't be president even if he is the fucking Pope.

[ChimneyFish]

<p><strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:</p><p>You gonna twist the nature of reality with 60s pot idealism? Good luck. I'm 20, sir.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong><em><font face="georgia,palatino" size="2">Everybody now:</font></em></strong></p><p><strong><em><font face="Georgia" size="2">&quot;Oooooooooooooooohhhh........I see now.&quot;</font></em></strong></p>

[fezjr]

Yeah you know how 20 year olds are, always preaching their right wing politics. What the fuck are you talking about? Is there any liberal who is not a complete fucking moron on this board?

[AgnosticJihad]

<strong>Knowledged_one</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Wallower</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>AgnosticJihad</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Knowledged_one</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Do you all need a room</p><p>And hey if you arent a make up guy and you keep posting here more power to you it just seemed suspicious the back and forth that two new posters have, because people do make fake accounts one of my favorites was DeathMetalHomo </p><p>No problem. But, I assure you, <span style="background-color: #ffff00">I am not fezjr or anyone else.</span> I simply happened to be checking the political threads when this one was started, and being pretty left-wing couldn't not comment.</p><p>&nbsp;strictly speaking, if you're not fezjr then you <u>must</u> be someone else</p><p>Check and Mate</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>and you are pretty left wing like jupiter is pretty much a planet</p><p>but hey thats your cross to bear</p><p>ummmmm bearcross's now im hungry</p><p>Jupiter's a planet??? Since when???</p>

[feralBoy]

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<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by feralBoy on 2-28-07 @ 4:10 PM</span>

[foodcourtdruide]

<strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br />Yeah you know how 20 year olds are, always preaching their right wing politics. What the fuck are you talking about? Is there any liberal who is not a complete fucking moron on this board? <p>Why are you debating if you think everyone arguing with you is a <strong>complete fucking moron</strong>?</p><p>You are acting as someone who has just come into adulthood. You are not critically thinking about things and taking the words of people you respect as gospel. </p><p>That's all I'll say about this. You clearly have no interest in appreciating the opinions of others, but rather are trying to convince everyone you are right. Most&nbsp;people on this site are smart and well-informed.</p>

[fezjr]

I thought most people on this board were smart despite their faulty politics. Instead though, all you are is foaming at the mouth liberals who's every word I can debunk and people like yourself who are hypocrits that say I am so set in my ways I won't hear other's opinions while ignoring the fact that every opinion I hear from board liberal type 1 I simply destroy with fact and logic.

[fezjr]

<p>I hear the opinions of liberals, most of them are wrong, I destroy the opinion, angry liberal goes on a personal attack while not debunking anything I said with reasoning, only insulting it.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[angrymissy]

<strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br />I thought most people on this board were smart despite their faulty politics. Instead though, all you are is foaming at the mouth liberals who's every word I can debunk and people like yourself who are hypocrits that say I am so set in my ways I won't hear other's opinions while ignoring the fact that every opinion I hear from board liberal type 1 I simply destroy with fact and logic. <p>Holy run-on sentence!</p>

[angrymissy]

<strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I hear the opinions of liberals, most of them are wrong, I destroy the opinion, angry liberal goes on a personal attack while not debunking anything I said with reasoning, only insulting it.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>hmmm.&nbsp; Show me where you &quot;destroyed&quot; the opinion?</p>

[AgnosticJihad]

<strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br />I thought most people on this board were smart despite their faulty politics. Instead though, all you are is foaming at the mouth liberals who's every word I can debunk and people like yourself who are hypocrits that say I am so set in my ways I won't hear other's opinions while ignoring the fact that every opinion I hear from board liberal type 1 I simply destroy with fact and logic. <p>I'v yet to see you destroy anyone's arguments with logic. If you would like to begin by &quot;debunking&quot; one of mine, please feel free.</p>

[Furtherman]

<p>You have not debunked anything.</p><p>You are very young and very uneducated.&nbsp; Your schooling finished at high school.&nbsp; You think you are learning by listening to Savage, Rush and O'Reilly, but you are missing an entire world.&nbsp; You should leave your parents house and enroll in a school far away.&nbsp; Or maybe get a job in a different city.&nbsp; So I feel for you, a little bit, when I look at your limits.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Or you could just be a natural ass.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Please, you chance of having any kind of a thought provoking debate was lost with your first post today.&nbsp; You're today's joke, congrats.</p>

[ChimneyFish]

<strong>Furtherman</strong> wrote:<br /><p>You have not debunked anything.</p><p>You are very young and very uneducated.&nbsp; Your schooling finished at high school.&nbsp; You think you are learning by listening to Savage, Rush and O'Reilly, but you are missing an entire world.&nbsp; You should leave your parents house and enroll in a school far away.&nbsp; Or maybe get a job in a different city.&nbsp; So I feel for you, a little bit, when I look at your limits.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><u><p>Or you could just be a natural ass.&nbsp; </p></u><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Please, you chance of having any kind of a thought provoking debate was lost with your first post today.&nbsp; You're today's joke, congrats.</p><p><strong><em><font face="georgia,palatino" size="2">Now there's an untapped fuel&nbsp;resource.</font></em></strong></p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by ChimneyFish on 2-28-07 @ 4:32 PM</span>

[fezjr]

I am the greatest political mind this board has ever seen

[AgnosticJihad]

<strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br />I am the greatest political mind this board has ever seen <p>I can see that by your inability to meet my challenge. Congratulations.</p>

[fezjr]

<strong>angrymissy</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I hear the opinions of liberals, most of them are wrong, I destroy the opinion, angry liberal goes on a personal attack while not debunking anything I said with reasoning, only insulting it.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>hmmm.&nbsp; Show me where you &quot;destroyed&quot; the opinion?</p><p>I destroy liberal logic like you destroy devil dogs as you cry, sitting on the ground near your fridge at midnight.I request my own forum on this board where I will answer all political questions you misguided yet loveable liberals may have.</p>

[ChimneyFish]

<strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br />I am the&nbsp;<em><font size="2">dumbest</font></em>&nbsp;<em><font size="2">village idiot</font></em>&nbsp;this board has ever seen <p><font face="georgia,palatino" size="2"><strong><em>Fixed it for you.</em></strong></font></p>

[AgnosticJihad]

<strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>angrymissy</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I hear the opinions of liberals, most of them are wrong, I destroy the opinion, angry liberal goes on a personal attack while not debunking anything I said with reasoning, only insulting it.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>hmmm.&nbsp; Show me where you &quot;destroyed&quot; the opinion?</p><p>I destroy liberal logic like you destroy devil dogs as you cry, sitting on the ground near your fridge at midnight.I request my own forum on this board where I will answer all political questions you misguided yet loveable liberals may have.</p><p>good luck with that.</p>

[FezsAssistant]

<strong>angrymissy</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Fez'sAssistant</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Why are liberals do angry about this?&nbsp; Are they saying something's wrong with being Islamic?&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Oh give me a break.&nbsp; You know exactly why.&nbsp; It's because it was disinformation spread by the right to try and sway people away from voting for Obama.&nbsp; It's because it was a flat out lie.</p><p>Like CBS did to GWB?&nbsp; </p>

[ChimneyFish]

<strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br />Yeah you know how 20 year olds are, always preaching their right wing politics. What the fuck are you talking about? Is there any liberal who is not a complete fucking moron on this board? <p><strong><em><font face="georgia,palatino" size="2">First off, I'm pretty fucking far from being a liberal.</font></em></strong></p><p><strong><em><font face="Georgia" size="2">And it just seems to me , like a lot of liberals, you're just another mindless automaton, who swallows everything the right shoves down you're throat.</font></em></strong></p><p><strong><em><font face="Georgia" size="2"></font></em></strong></p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by ChimneyFish on 2-28-07 @ 4:38 PM</span>

[FezsAssistant]

<p>Can we talk about what Obama stands for?&nbsp; I have no idea what his views are.&nbsp; Does anyone know?&nbsp; Please enlighten me.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[fezjr]

Obama's politics are liberal, same old tax and spend hootenany. HE'S A RABBLEROUZER. Why does it matter? I told you he is not gonna be president, no matter how much the new yawk times and oprah want it.

[Zorro]

<font size="1">You guys act like any of this matters.&nbsp;Elections are a sideshow to keep the rubes&nbsp;believing they have a voice. &nbsp;</font>

[ChimneyFish]

<strong>Fez'sAssistant</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Can we talk about what Obama stands for?&nbsp; I have no idea what his views are.&nbsp; Does anyone know?&nbsp; Please enlighten me.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong><em><font face="georgia,palatino" size="2">Well, he just might want&nbsp;to destroy these here United States....</font></em></strong></p><p><img src="http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c217/luxa1/Hick.jpg" border="0" width="418" height="600" /></p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by ChimneyFish on 2-28-07 @ 4:44 PM</span>

[foodcourtdruide]

<strong>Fez'sAssistant</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Can we talk about what Obama stands for?&nbsp; I have no idea what his views are.&nbsp; Does anyone know?&nbsp; Please enlighten me.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Just google &quot;what obama stands for&quot;.</p>

[AgnosticJihad]

<strong>Fez'sAssistant</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Can we talk about what Obama stands for?&nbsp; I have no idea what his views are.&nbsp; Does anyone know?&nbsp; Please enlighten me.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Unfortunately I do not. However, I wonder why you oppose him so vehemently, considering you have no idea either. Prehaps if you would take the time to figure it ou and not judge the man based on the color of his skin, you might actually find you like the guy. </p><p>also, for such a great political mind, I find it interesting that you simply rehash the words of right-wing pundits.&nbsp;I mean seroiously, I've hear that about every Democratic candidate on Fox &quot;News&quot;.&nbsp;</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by AgnosticJihad on 2-28-07 @ 4:50 PM</span>

[fezjr]

<strong>ChimneyFish</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Fez'sAssistant</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Can we talk about what Obama stands for?&nbsp; I have no idea what his views are.&nbsp; Does anyone know?&nbsp; Please enlighten me.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong><em><font face="georgia,palatino" size="2">Well, he just might want&nbsp;to destroy these here United States....</font></em></strong></p><p><img src="http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c217/luxa1/Hick.jpg" border="0" width="418" height="600" /></p><span class="post_edited">This message was edited by ChimneyFish on 2-28-07 @ 4:44 PM</span> <p>I SAY! US SOPHISTICATED NORTHERNERS ARE SO HIGH ABOVE THOSE UNEDUCATED CULTURELESS THINGS. HMMPH</p>

[FezsAssistant]

<strong>AgnosticJihad</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Fez'sAssistant</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Can we talk about what Obama stands for?&nbsp; I have no idea what his views are.&nbsp; Does anyone know?&nbsp; Please enlighten me.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Unfortunately I do not. However, I wonder why you oppose him so vehemently, considering you have no idea either. Prehaps if you would take the time to figure it ou and not judge the man based on the color of his skin, you might actually find you like the guy. </p><p>also, for such a great political mind, I find it interesting that you simply rehash the words of right-wing pundits.&nbsp;I mean seroiously, I've hear that about every Democratic candidate on Fox &quot;News&quot;.&nbsp;</p><p>Hey stupid,</p><p>You talking about the other guy, not me.&nbsp; I'm not opposing him.&nbsp; I never said I was a great political mind.&nbsp; Read before you post a reply.&nbsp; </p>

[FezsAssistant]

<strong>foodcourtdruide</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Fez'sAssistant</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Can we talk about what Obama stands for?&nbsp; I have no idea what his views are.&nbsp; Does anyone know?&nbsp; Please enlighten me.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Just google &quot;what obama stands for&quot;.</p><p>I just did.&nbsp; It says kiddie porn and terrorism.&nbsp; </p>

[Wallower]

<strong>Fez'sAssistant</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Can we talk about what Obama stands for? I have no idea what his views are. Does anyone know? Please enlighten me. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;Obama stands for: <strong>O</strong>ne <strong>Ba</strong>dasssssss <strong>Ma</strong>n</p><p>everyone knows that&nbsp;</p>

[patsopinion]

<p>i like the politics of the black muslims in the US</p><p>its about responsiblility and accountability and although it isnt nessisarly praticed but whatever</p>

[AgnosticJihad]

<strong>Fez'sAssistant</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>AgnosticJihad</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Fez'sAssistant</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Can we talk about what Obama stands for?&nbsp; I have no idea what his views are.&nbsp; Does anyone know?&nbsp; Please enlighten me.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Unfortunately I do not. However, I wonder why you oppose him so vehemently, considering you have no idea either. Prehaps if you would take the time to figure it ou and not judge the man based on the color of his skin, you might actually find you like the guy. </p><p>also, for such a great political mind, I find it interesting that you simply rehash the words of right-wing pundits.&nbsp;I mean seroiously, I've hear that about every Democratic candidate on Fox &quot;News&quot;.&nbsp;</p><p>Hey stupid,</p><p>You talking about the other guy, not me.&nbsp; I'm not opposing him.&nbsp; I never said I was a great political mind.&nbsp; Read before you post a reply.&nbsp; </p><p>My mistake. It is hard to tell you two apart, given the similarity of your names and viewpoints (assuming of course, that you are different people). Anyway, the point is moot. Whether you claimed to have a &quot;great political mind&quot; or not, you just demonstrated that you do not. If you wish to engage in debate, feel free to resopond; if you wish to call names, then fuck off.</p>

[angrymissy]

<strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>angrymissy</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I hear the opinions of liberals, most of them are wrong, I destroy the opinion, angry liberal goes on a personal attack while not debunking anything I said with reasoning, only insulting it.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>hmmm.&nbsp; Show me where you &quot;destroyed&quot; the opinion?</p><p>I destroy liberal logic like you destroy devil dogs as you cry, sitting on the ground near your fridge at midnight.I request my own forum on this board where I will answer all political questions you misguided yet loveable liberals may have.</p><p>Hey Stan - how's Staten Island treating you?</p>

[fezjr]

Fine thank you, ma'm.

[FezsAssistant]

<strong>AgnosticJihad</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Fez'sAssistant</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>AgnosticJihad</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Fez'sAssistant</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Can we talk about what Obama stands for?&nbsp; I have no idea what his views are.&nbsp; Does anyone know?&nbsp; Please enlighten me.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Unfortunately I do not. However, I wonder why you oppose him so vehemently, considering you have no idea either. Prehaps if you would take the time to figure it ou and not judge the man based on the color of his skin, you might actually find you like the guy. </p><p>also, for such a great political mind, I find it interesting that you simply rehash the words of right-wing pundits.&nbsp;I mean seroiously, I've hear that about every Democratic candidate on Fox &quot;News&quot;.&nbsp;</p><p>Hey stupid,</p><p>You talking about the other guy, not me.&nbsp; I'm not opposing him.&nbsp; I never said I was a great political mind.&nbsp; Read before you post a reply.&nbsp; </p><p>My mistake. It is hard to tell you two apart, given the similarity of your names and viewpoints (assuming of course, that you are different people). Anyway, the point is moot. Whether you claimed to have a &quot;great political mind&quot; or not, you just demonstrated that you do not. If you wish to engage in debate, feel free to resopond; if you wish to call names, then fuck off.</p><p>I don't have a similar viewpoint to Fezjr.&nbsp; I don't understand why you're mad at me.&nbsp; You screwed up.&nbsp;&nbsp;You think I'm on Fezjr's side.&nbsp; I should clarify when I wrote 'I'm not opposing him' I was referring to Obama.&nbsp; You&nbsp;incorrectly stated that&nbsp;I vehemently opposed Obama.&nbsp; I was responding to your statement.&nbsp; Again, read.&nbsp; You are coming across as really stupid.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Fez'sAssistant on 2-28-07 @ 5:20 PM</span>

[Kevin]

<strong>ShelleBink</strong> wrote:<br />They're all me.<p><font size="5">&nbsp;OSHELLA!!!!!!!!!!!</font></p>

[feralBoy]

<strong>angrymissy</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br />I thought most people on this board were smart despite their faulty politics. Instead though, all you are is foaming at the mouth liberals who's every word I can debunk and people like yourself who are hypocrits that say I am so set in my ways I won't hear other's opinions while ignoring the fact that every opinion I hear from board liberal type 1 I simply destroy with fact and logic. <p>Holy run-on sentence!</p><p>Maybe fezjr is the next james joyce.&nbsp; maybe not...</p>

[mikeyboy]

<p>This has devolved pretty badly.</p><p>If you cannot discuss politics without resorting to personal attacks...</p><p>a) you suck at political discourse</p><p>b) you won't be welcome to use this forum for your discussion.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Knock it off and stick to the issues.</p>

[keithy_19]

<strong>mikeyboy</strong> wrote:<br /><p>This has devolved pretty badly.</p><p>If you cannot discuss politics without resorting to personal attacks...</p><p>a) you suck at political discourse</p><p>b) you won't be welcome to use this forum for your discussion. <strong>you'll be forced to use the wrestling forum . </strong></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Knock it off and stick to the issues.</p><p>Look at Mikey laying down the law!</p>

[AgnosticJihad]

<strong>Fez'sAssistant</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>AgnosticJihad</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Fez'sAssistant</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>AgnosticJihad</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Fez'sAssistant</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Can we talk about what Obama stands for?&nbsp; I have no idea what his views are.&nbsp; Does anyone know?&nbsp; Please enlighten me.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Unfortunately I do not. However, I wonder why you oppose him so vehemently, considering you have no idea either. Prehaps if you would take the time to figure it ou and not judge the man based on the color of his skin, you might actually find you like the guy. </p><p>also, for such a great political mind, I find it interesting that you simply rehash the words of right-wing pundits.&nbsp;I mean seroiously, I've hear that about every Democratic candidate on Fox &quot;News&quot;.&nbsp;</p><p>Hey stupid,</p><p>You talking about the other guy, not me.&nbsp; I'm not opposing him.&nbsp; I never said I was a great political mind.&nbsp; Read before you post a reply.&nbsp; </p><p>My mistake. It is hard to tell you two apart, given the similarity of your names and viewpoints (assuming of course, that you are different people). Anyway, the point is moot. Whether you claimed to have a &quot;great political mind&quot; or not, you just demonstrated that you do not. If you wish to engage in debate, feel free to resopond; if you wish to call names, then fuck off.</p><p>I don't have a similar viewpoint to Fezjr.&nbsp; I don't understand why you're mad at me.&nbsp; You screwed up.&nbsp;&nbsp;You think I'm on Fezjr's side.&nbsp; I should clarify when I wrote 'I'm not opposing him' I was referring to Obama.&nbsp; You&nbsp;incorrectly stated that&nbsp;I vehemently opposed Obama.&nbsp; I was responding to your statement.&nbsp; Again, read.&nbsp; You are coming across as really stupid.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><span class="post_edited">This message was edited by Fez'sAssistant on 2-28-07 @ 5:20 PM</span> <p>Oops. You're right, I did mistake you for the totally wrong person. My mistake. All apologies.</p>

[foodcourtdruide]

<strong>feralBoy</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>angrymissy</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>fezjr</strong> wrote:<br />I thought most people on this board were smart despite their faulty politics. Instead though, all you are is foaming at the mouth liberals who's every word I can debunk and people like yourself who are hypocrits that say I am so set in my ways I won't hear other's opinions while ignoring the fact that every opinion I hear from board liberal type 1 I simply destroy with fact and logic. <p>Holy run-on sentence!</p><p><strong>Maybe fezjr is the next james joyce.</strong>&nbsp; maybe not...</p><p>I thought Hemmingway was more popular for run-on sentences?</p>