need some new Jazz

[jetdog]

<p>I love Jazz, more and more it seems, everytime I want to listen to music.&nbsp; Problem is it seems very hard to find the Jazz that I want.&nbsp; To date I would have to say Mingus is my favorite, I also love the usual suspects Miles, Thelonious, Hancock, Evans, Coltrane, but I just can't seem to make an enjoyable purchase when I go out on a limb and say &quot;hey Ill give this a shot.&quot;&nbsp; Anybody got any recommendations?</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Tall_James]

<p>How about Brubeck?&nbsp; Some West Coast perhaps - Chet Baker?</p><p>Hell, how about Joao Gilberto and Stan Getz?&nbsp; </p><p>Try some King Pleasure.</p>

[JazzyJames]

Try Uri Cane, his &quot;Live at the Vanguard&quot; is great. Also an oldie, but lesser known pianist Ahmad Jamal, the &quot;Cross Country&quot; album is one of my all time favorites. Red Garland's solo work is awesome too. Mike Stern is great in person at the 55 Bar if you're in NYC, but I wouldn't buy an album. Pequito D'Rivera is a great latin Jazz sax player. Jeff &quot;Tain&quot; Watts is amazing! His swing is killing. Branford Marsalis is also great. If you like late coltrane or ornette coleman try to find &quot;Machine Gun&quot; by Peter Brotzmann, its really out free jazz from Germany in the 60s but its interesting. John Fedchock leads a pretty good band, their CD is worth picking up. John Scofield is a good guitarist, check him out too. If you are into funk stuff, Maceo Parker leads a band and Dennis Chambers' solo stuff is good. Poncho Sanchez is a conga player who plays some great latin stuff, and Flora Purim is an amazing Brazillian singer. Richard Bona is a sick bass player who also sings in Swahili, people say he is the second coming of Jaco Pastorius (i've never been able to see Bona live, but I am hoping to this summer *fingers crossed*). And if you haven't aready checked out Cannonball Adderly's solo work and Wayne Shorter's solo stuff check that out too. Hope this helps!

[Wallower]

<p>I didn't know they made new jazz.</p><p>Harry Connick Jr.'s last one is actually really good, with a nice retro feel.</p><p>How about Eddie &quot;Lockjaw&quot; Davis? (not new, but good) &nbsp;</p><p>Django Reinhardt (reaching here, but it's in the same vein)<br />I just&nbsp; got the 4 CD &quot;Tresors&quot; and it's amazing. </p>

[JazzyJames]

<strong>Wallower</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I didn't know they made new jazz.</p><br /><p>&nbsp;Hey! Some new jazz is actually pretty good, but its just not on the radio, you have to know where to look. </p><p>Brooklyn has a free jazz scene, and the lower west side has latin and fusion and some swing. It tough to find really great bop and swing, but its out there. </p><p>I don't think that many people play that Hot Club stuff that Django played anymore though... And if you guys like jazz get out and see shows if you can! Jazz is still (somewhat) alive, and hopefully it will be for some time. </p><p>I'm trying to make it as a jazz bassist, I really hope that the music doesn't die too soon. <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smoke.gif" border="0" /> </p>

[NortonRules]

<p>JazzyJames is right.&nbsp; Wayne Shorter is great.&nbsp; Also try Lee Morgan, Freddie Hubbard, Cannonball Adderly.&nbsp; If you're adventurous try Steve Coleman.&nbsp; He's my favorite.&nbsp; Woody Shaw is great.&nbsp; Eddie Harris is cool.&nbsp; </p><p>What periods of Miles have you listened to?&nbsp; He has so much diverse stuff out there.&nbsp; I fall in love with a different period every few years.&nbsp; </p><p>I play jazz trumpet.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[NortonRules]

If you're into Mingus and Monk, you might also like Don Cherry.&nbsp;

[NortonRules]

<strong>JazzyJames</strong> wrote:<br />Try Uri Cane, his &quot;Live at the Vanguard&quot; is great. Also an oldie, but lesser known pianist Ahmad Jamal, the &quot;Cross Country&quot; album is one of my all time favorites. Red Garland's solo work is awesome too. Mike Stern is great in person at the 55 Bar if you're in NYC, but I wouldn't buy an album. Pequito D'Rivera is a great latin Jazz sax player. Jeff &quot;Tain&quot; Watts is amazing! His swing is killing. Branford Marsalis is also great. If you like late coltrane or ornette coleman try to find &quot;Machine Gun&quot; by Peter Brotzmann, its really out free jazz from Germany in the 60s but its interesting. John Fedchock leads a pretty good band, their CD is worth picking up. John Scofield is a good guitarist, check him out too. If you are into funk stuff, Maceo Parker leads a band and Dennis Chambers' solo stuff is good. Poncho Sanchez is a conga player who plays some great latin stuff, and Flora Purim is an amazing Brazillian singer. Richard Bona is a sick bass player who also sings in Swahili, people say he is the second coming of Jaco Pastorius (i've never been able to see Bona live, but I am hoping to this summer *fingers crossed*). And if you haven't aready checked out Cannonball Adderly's solo work and Wayne Shorter's solo stuff check that out too. Hope this helps! <p>Sometimes Bona plays with Stern at 55.&nbsp; He's a great player, but didn't sound so hot on 'tunes'.&nbsp; He kind of just spit out his Jaco licks over everything, rather than playing the changes.&nbsp; He's still a monster bassist, though.&nbsp; </p><p>I love Uri's Mahler project.&nbsp; The live one.&nbsp; </p>

[JazzyJames]

Yea, i am never at the 55 when Bona is there though, bad luck i guess. And I'm not surprised to hear he isnt the best on standards, but I love his tone and his voice is great too. How long have you been playing trumpet Norton?

[bootzilla6]

<font size="3">I hate to give sites a push but you may want to try rhapsody music service.That way you can check out jazz without spending a ton of money. Oh and may I suggest the modern jazz quartet and milt jackson.great stuff</font>

[Yerdaddy]

<p>Two criteria I learned to use when choosing good old-school jazz is 1) black guys and 2) heroin addicts. That's why Miles is the best.</p><p>Other than that&nbsp;my favorite&nbsp;non-Miles CD is Cannonball Adderly - Quintet Plus.</p>

[Ritalin]

<p>Keith Jarrett Nude Ants</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[yomudder21]

Aren't there two or three jazz stations on XM.&nbsp; My Inno has never hit those channels but I know they exist.

[Freakshow]

It's not 'new' but I found a lesser known album called "whims of
chambers" by Paul Chambers. He's the Bass Player on landmark
Davis and Coltrane Albums of the late 50's and early 60's. The
song Mr. PC on Giant Steps is about him. Plus Coltrane and
Donald Byrd play in his group.

[FezsAssistant]

<strong>JazzyJames</strong> wrote:<br />Yea, i am never at the 55 when Bona is there though, bad luck i guess. And I'm not surprised to hear he isnt the best on standards, but I love his tone and his voice is great too. How long have you been playing trumpet Norton? <p>I've been playing about 19 years.&nbsp; How about you?&nbsp; Are you going to school up there?</p>

[FezsAssistant]

<strong>Fez'sAssistant</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>JazzyJames</strong> wrote:<br />Yea, i am never at the 55 when Bona is there though, bad luck i guess. And I'm not surprised to hear he isnt the best on standards, but I love his tone and his voice is great too. How long have you been playing trumpet Norton? <p>I've been playing about 19 years.&nbsp; How about you?&nbsp; Are you going to school up there?</p><p>Yes - NortonRules and Fez'sAssistant are one in the same.&nbsp; </p>

[jetdog]

Thanks folks, I knew we had some class on here (I was worried when I saw 3 views an hour&nbsp; after I posted this). <br />

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>Given the stuff you already have, I'd suggest</p><p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Alone-Together-Best-Mercury-Years/dp/B0000046XO" title="Max Roach/Clifford Brown-Alone together">Max Roach/Clifford Brown-Alone together</a>-Best Jazz CD I bought last year. Collection of their Mercury recordings. &nbsp;</p><p>Art Blakey-Anything from 57-65, &quot;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Moanin-Art-Blakey-Jazz-Messengers/dp/B00000I8UF/sr=1-1/qid=1172711089/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-5829293-8778552?ie=UTF8&amp;s=music" title="Moanin">Moanin</a>&quot; is a classic. Was a factory of great musicians.&nbsp; </p><p>Lee Morgan-Art Blakey alumni, great hard bop trumpeter. &quot;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Sidewinder-Lee-Morgan/dp/B00000IL26/sr=1-1/qid=1172711137/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-5829293-8778552?ie=UTF8&amp;s=music" title="Sidewinder">Sidewinder</a>&quot; is the best known CD. </p><p>Freddie Hubbard-If you like Miles, check out Freddie. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Ready-Freddie-Hubbard/dp/B0001GWAL0/sr=1-1/qid=1172711834/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-5829293-8778552?ie=UTF8&amp;s=music"><span class="srTitle">Ready for Freddie</span></a> is a classic. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Open-Sesame-Freddie-Hubbard/dp/B00005UOKP/sr=1-1/qid=1172711751/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-5829293-8778552?ie=UTF8&amp;s=music"><span class="srTitle">Open Sesame</span></a> is another. You really cant miss with anything he did in the late 50s-early 60s, but he also did some great stuff in the mid 70's. Maybe you can start out with the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Jazz-Moods-Hot-Freddie-Hubbard/dp/B0002ABSV8/sr=1-1/qid=1172710999/ref=sr_1_1/102-5829293-8778552?ie=UTF8&amp;s=music" title="Jazz Moods-Freddie Hubbard">Jazz Moods-Freddie Hubbard</a> as a 'best of' to get your feet wet.</p><p>Clifford Brown-One of the originators of the Hard bop sound, but played ballads equally well. Only lived to 25, but made a lasting impact and is a key figure in jazz history &nbsp;</p><p>And if you want to get into singers,</p><p>Grady Tate-<a href="http://www.amazon.com/All-Love-Grady-Tate/dp/B0000BWVEI/sr=1-1/qid=1172711980/ref=sr_1_1/102-5829293-8778552?ie=UTF8&amp;s=music"><span class="srTitle">All Love</span></a> Beautiful, slow ballads. Nice album. &quot;Dont Misunderstand&quot; and &quot;Estate&quot; are highlights.&nbsp; &nbsp;</p><p>Paula Morelenbaum-Brazilian singer who's done some great work with the Jobim classics. Check out <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Berimbaum-Paula-Morelenbaum/dp/B00065U0SQ/sr=1-2/qid=1172711565/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/102-5829293-8778552?ie=UTF8&amp;s=music" title="Berimbaum">Berimbaum</a> and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Morelenbaum-Sakamoto-Casa-Tribute-Jobim/dp/B00006FIBO/sr=1-1/qid=1172711525/ref=sr_1_1/102-5829293-8778552?ie=UTF8&amp;s=music" title="Casa">Casa</a> with pianist Ryuchi Sakamoto. Casa is one of the most intensely beautiful albums I've ever heard in my life. &nbsp;</p><p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Duos-II-Luciana-Souza/dp/B00096S3E0/sr=1-1/qid=1172712273/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-5829293-8778552?ie=UTF8&amp;s=music"><span class="srTitle">Duos II</span></a> by <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Luciana-Souza/artist/B000APPSQQ/102-5829293-8778552">Luciana Souza</a>&nbsp; Very talented Brazilian singer, terrific CD. &nbsp;</p><p>Marisa Monte <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Universo-Meu-Redor-Marisa-Monte/dp/B000ERU6JO/sr=1-1/qid=1172712506/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-5829293-8778552?ie=UTF8&amp;s=music"><span class="srTitle">Universo ao Meu Redor</span></a> One of the best selling albums in Brazil last year, just starting to make her mark here. One of the best albums I've bought recently. </p><p>and start sifting through Sarah Vaughan's catalog, if you haven't already. Her &quot;Key Largo&quot; gives me chills every time I hear it. &nbsp;</p>

[busybeeman]

<strong>jetdog</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I love Jazz, more and more it seems, everytime I want to listen to music.&nbsp; Problem is it seems very hard to find the Jazz that I want.&nbsp; To date I would have to say Mingus is my favorite, I also love the usual suspects Miles, Thelonious, Hancock, Evans, Coltrane, but I just can't seem to make an enjoyable purchase when I go out on a limb and say &quot;hey Ill give this a shot.&quot;&nbsp; Anybody got any recommendations?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I'm an artist.&nbsp; I have new jazz music for you to preview.&nbsp; Check out my profile.&nbsp; Go to my spot. Click on my name.&nbsp; Preview my stuff.&nbsp; Lemme know what you think.&nbsp; (According to the policy here I can't just post a link.&nbsp; Sorry for the run around).</p>

[hedges]

Some of my favorites are:
- Jo Jones "The Essentials"
(master drummer from Count Basie's band who did some solo work)
-"The Tatum Group Masterpieces" with Art Tatum on piano doing mind-numbing runs; Lionel Hampton on vibes; Buddy Rich on drums doing it all with brushes
-Gene Ammons and Sonny Stitt "Boss Tenors - Straight Ahead From Chicago August 1961" great sax work
-Stan Getz "Best of the West Coast Sessions" more great tenor sax

[BillyVegas]

<p>If you want some new-school ish with some old flavor...</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Anything with Medeski, Martin, Wood and Scofield.&nbsp;</p><p>A Go Go is a great album... as is the new one, whose title I cannot remember.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>-bv&nbsp;</p>

[CruelCircus]

<p>Terrance Blanchard.&nbsp; Trumpeter; his last album &quot;Flow&quot; was produced by Herbie Hancock and is very good.</p><p>Also, see if you can find anything by Kermit Ruffins.&nbsp; Not as good as Blanchard, but it's a fun, New Orleans sound.</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

http://citizenjazz.com/albums/album16/Betty_Carter.sized.jpg

I just recently started listening to Betty Carter, and I must say I'm absolutely blown away. She is one of the best pure Jazz singers I've ever heard, male or female. She can riff with her voice as well as anyone on any instrument. Her interpretation of some standards is pure genius, and some of her original pieces are equally good. She's very experimental, so you'll have to dig to find the real gems, but they're worth searching for.
I'd recommend an album, but she recorded with so many labels that a definitive collection isn't around. Try these two

Betty Carters Finest hour (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_m/102-5829293-8778552?url=search-alias%3Dpopular&field-keywords=betty+carter+finest+hour&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&Go=Go)

Priceless Jazz-Betty Carter (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/102-5829293-8778552?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=priceless+jazz+betty+carter&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&Go=Go)

[bigredd]

Try some Hank Mobley for some good old school or a little Medeski, Martin and Wood for some funky shit.

[sailor]

i misread the thread title. boy was that embarrassing!

[Bulldogcakes]

Kurt Elling's new CD Night Moves (http://www.amazon.com/Nightmoves-Kurt-Elling/dp/B000MCID64)

Interview with Kurt plus he performs two tracks (http://www.wnyc.org/shows/soundcheck/episodes/2007/08/22)

Maybe his best yet, top to bottom. He continues to grow and mature as an artist and its just great to have jazz artists like him still around. I love Kurt Ellings work. Takes everything from standards to original pieces and takes them in so many directions, yet you always instantly recognize him. Always thoughtful and interesting and often very moving. Lyrics are pure poetry. So many vocalists are largely personalities, he is both a personality and a jazz musician in the truest sense.

[jetdog]

Nice.


Here's a suggestion for some new school listening (http://www.myspace.com/nomomusic), not your classic Jazz group, but really interesting, with lots of horns and percussion.