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Rockvillejoe

02-20-2007, 11:31 AM

"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss" (MEL?)..Catching todays opening song, the Who's "Won't Get Fooled Again", had me beating the hell out of my steering wheel on the BW parkway while playing along to the drum solo towards the end. What's yours, the Beatles' "The End" solo? pray tell.....

sailor

02-20-2007, 11:41 AM

live version of yyz on exit...stage left.

LOAF

02-20-2007, 11:43 AM

<img src="http://pic2.picturetrail.com/VOL1005/3599885/12688593/186998928.jpg" border="0" width="400" height="258" />Chad Sexton and the rest of the boys from 311 doing the drum solo during "applied science"Fuckin awesome live!!!!!!

Mike Teacher

02-20-2007, 12:20 PM

I never get tired watching Buddy Rich. I get exhausted...<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgeX9iYOFSQ" target="_blank">Buddy Rich Solo</a><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwJAAlXomVk" target="_blank">Buddy Rich / Gene Krupa Drum Battle on Sammy Davis Jr Show</a>

bobrobot

02-20-2007, 12:26 PM

sailor

02-20-2007, 12:29 PM

Mike Teacher wrote: I never get tired watching Buddy Rich. I get exhausted...<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgeX9iYOFSQ" target="_blank">Buddy Rich Solo</a><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwJAAlXomVk" target="_blank">Buddy Rich / Gene Krupa Drum Battle on Sammy Davis Jr Show</a> peart from the buddy rich memorial <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bIchqJoxFQ" target="_blank">concert</a>

Death Metal Moe

02-20-2007, 12:31 PM

WATCHING drum solos is great.LISTENING to drum solo breaks on recordings is gay.

Rockvillejoe

02-20-2007, 12:35 PM

bobogolem wrote:              <img src="http://www.diapazon.pl/plyty/d/dodds_talking.jpg" border="0" width="150" height="150" />now that's kicking old school. louis armstrong, jelly roll morton, and baby dodds. i guess he was the cats pajamas for the first half of the 20th century, but his solos are just a tad tedious to my untrained ear. he did have a very funky pregnant pause in his style, and give him his due for ushering in the likes of budday rich and gene krupa. 

This message was edited by Rockvillejoe on 2-20-07 @ 4:43 PM

Drunky McBetidont

02-20-2007, 12:37 PM

i agree with sailor, yyz has always blown me away.  I really dig drums and have seen many great drummers perform outstanding solos.  i have to say that neil peart is the current king.<a href="http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Neil_Peart.html">http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Neil_Peart.html</a>btw, new rush coming soon!!!<a href="http://www.rush.com/php/set_flash.php?flash=1">http://www.rush.com/php/set_flash.php?flash=1</a>

Rockvillejoe

02-20-2007, 12:39 PM

Death Metal Moe wrote: WATCHING drum solos is great.LISTENING to drum solo breaks on recordings is gay.so color me with the rainbow brush. all i know is listening to  a good drum solo is a lot of fun. set me straight, DMM, me why is it gay? judging by your photo, you obviously are into this more than the average music fan. why is it not cool?

SinA

02-20-2007, 12:41 PM

Rockvillejoe

02-20-2007, 12:42 PM

sailor wrote: Mike Teacher wrote: I never get tired watching Buddy Rich. I get exhausted...<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgeX9iYOFSQ" target="_blank">Buddy Rich Solo</a><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwJAAlXomVk" target="_blank">Buddy Rich / Gene Krupa Drum Battle on Sammy Davis Jr Show</a> peart from the buddy rich memorial <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bIchqJoxFQ" target="_blank">concert</a> the thing about buddy rich that was so impressive to me, was the way he made it seem so effortless.  i remember when ginger baker had the  reputation as being the worlds fastest drummer. any billy cobham fans out there?

reeshy

02-20-2007, 12:44 PM

Death Metal Moe

02-20-2007, 12:45 PM

Rockvillejoe wrote: Death Metal Moe wrote: WATCHING drum solos is great.LISTENING to drum solo breaks on recordings is gay.so color me with the rainbow brush. all i know is listening to  a good drum solo is a lot of fun. set me straight, DMM, me why is it gay? judging by your photo, you obviously are into this more than the average music fan. why is it not cool?  Listen Joe, when I say something is "gay" I'm not attacking the people who say they like them.  It's my opinion.  My sarcasm was never taken well on this site but I'm not changing.I don't like drum solos on tape because it's all just a mess, usually.  Watching a drummer attack his set is very impressive, I was just never a fan of the recorded thing.  I guess I am a more visual person in respects to this topic.  I can listen to music all day and night but drum solos usually bore me.  I can't think of one I want to hear right now.

raulfd4

02-20-2007, 12:46 PM

Primus - "Tommy The Cat" (Live) As Les Claypool puts it:"The man.  The myth.  The pseudo-Mexican....Brain."

Rockvillejoe

02-20-2007, 12:53 PM

sailor wrote: Mike Teacher wrote: I never get tired watching Buddy Rich. I get exhausted...<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgeX9iYOFSQ" target="_blank">Buddy Rich Solo</a><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwJAAlXomVk" target="_blank">Buddy Rich / Gene Krupa Drum Battle on Sammy Davis Jr Show</a> peart from the buddy rich memorial <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bIchqJoxFQ" target="_blank">concert</a> just linked onto the above youtube solo. better than i rememered when he was always on the tonight show. that dude was very cool. karate enthusiast if memory serves me. what did he die of? the big casino?   thanks for the link. well worth the view.

Rockvillejoe

02-20-2007, 12:56 PM

Death Metal Moe wrote: Rockvillejoe wrote: Death Metal Moe wrote: WATCHING drum solos is great.LISTENING to drum solo breaks on recordings is gay.so color me with the rainbow brush. all i know is listening to  a good drum solo is a lot of fun. set me straight, DMM, me why is it gay? judging by your photo, you obviously are into this more than the average music fan. why is it not cool?  Listen Joe, when I say something is "gay" I'm not attacking the people who say they like them.  It's my opinion.  My sarcasm was never taken well on this site but I'm not changing.I don't like drum solos on tape because it's all just a mess, usually.  Watching a drummer attack his set is very impressive, I was just never a fan of the recorded thing.  I guess I am a more visual person in respects to this topic.  I can listen to music all day and night but drum solos usually bore me.  I can't think of one I want to hear right now.what the fuck? no attack taken. no sarcasm intended. just wondering what your point was based on, that's all, brother. after viewing mike the teacher's youtube link, i see your point that watching the solo is better, but for me, i like to listen too, that's all. let me buy you a beer friday night.

Brooklyn Stroonze

02-20-2007, 12:58 PM

100,000 Years <img src="http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/9/90/200px-Kiss_alive_album_cover.jpg" border="0" width="200" height="199" />

Death Metal Moe

02-20-2007, 01:03 PM

Rockvillejoe wrote: what the fuck? no attack taken. no sarcasm intended. just wondering what your point was based on, that's all, brother. after viewing mike the teacher's youtube link, i see your point that watching the solo is better, but for me, i like to listen too, that's all. let me buy you a beer friday night. If there was no attack then I apologize.  Guess I took you wrong.Watching those clips was amazing, of course.  I'll gladly take the suggestions in this thread and try to check out the solos if you all think they're that good.  I love the drums, just never felt "it" on tape.

Bob Impact

02-20-2007, 01:13 PM

sailor wrote: live version of yyz on exit...stage left.  QFT.Also Joey from Slipknot on the Disasterpieces DVD, its really not all that great, but one of my faves.

Bob Impact

02-20-2007, 01:15 PM

Death Metal Moe wrote: Rockvillejoe wrote: what the fuck? no attack taken. no sarcasm intended. just wondering what your point was based on, that's all, brother. after viewing mike the teacher's youtube link, i see your point that watching the solo is better, but for me, i like to listen too, that's all. let me buy you a beer friday night. If there was no attack then I apologize. Guess I took you wrong.Watching those clips was amazing, of course. I'll gladly take the suggestions in this thread and try to check out the solos if you all think they're that good. I love the drums, just never felt "it" on tape. Oh who are we kidding, DMM knows NOTHING about the drums.

Mike Teacher

02-20-2007, 01:20 PM

Even live, most drum solos [and guitar solos, and bass solos, and especially keyboard solos] are Lame, IMHO.'Ooohh wow check him out, he's all technical...' Enough! It's almost always wasted concert time.Even the God-Like Neil Peart, who I've seen live since Moving Pictures, never really had a solo that's as good as his breaks in say Tom Sawyer or Freewill. And whoever mentioned 'Fool In The Rain' by Bonzo/Led Zep? Wonderful perfect example of masterful playing inside a track. I'd rather hear really cool drumming that's part of a musical group then a solo.The '100,000 Years' solo is funny for me in that my friend is such a KISS head he does the whole friggin thing on a counter/chair/whatever, including everything Paul says, from memory, whenever he gets a few beers in him. Hysterical. I like Brufords stuff; but again, in a song.

busybeeman

02-20-2007, 01:21 PM

Rockvillejoe wrote: "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss" (MEL?)..Catching todays opening song, the Who's "Won't Get Fooled Again", had me beating the hell out of my steering wheel on the BW parkway while playing along to the drum solo towards the end. What's yours, the Beatles' "The End" solo? pray tell..... Rock and Roll drummer?  No competition.  Bonzo<a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Image:Bonzo.JPG" title="John Bonham, 1973"><img class="thumbimage" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/68/Bonzo.JPG/300px-Bonzo.JPG" border="0" alt="John Bonham, 1973" width="300" height="204" /></a> <div class="thumbcaption"><div class="magnify" style="float: right"><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Image:Bonzo.JPG" title="Enlarge"><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/skins-1.5/common/images/magnify-clip.png" border="0" width="15" height="11" /></a></div>John Bonham, 1973</div><div class="thumbcaption"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bonham">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bonham</a></div>

FezPaul

02-20-2007, 01:22 PM

sailor wrote: live version of yyz on exit...stage left. That's what I was was going to say.But Der Trommler from R30 is great too.

Death Metal Moe

02-20-2007, 01:25 PM

Mike Teacher wrote: Even live, most drum solos [and guitar solos, and bass solos, and especially keyboard solos] are Lame, IMHO.'Ooohh wow check him out, he's all technical...' Enough! It's almost always wasted concert time.Even the God-Like Neil Peart, who I've seen live since Moving Pictures, never really had a solo that's as good as his breaks in say Tom Sawyer or Freewill. And whoever mentioned 'Fool In The Rain' by Bonzo/Led Zep? Wonderful perfect example of masterful playing inside a track. I'd rather hear really cool drumming that's part of a musical group then a solo.The '100,000 Years' solo is funny for me in that my friend is such a KISS head he does the whole friggin thing on a counter/chair/whatever, including everything Paul says, from memory, whenever he gets a few beers in him. Hysterical. I like Brufords stuff; but again, in a song.That is exactly how I feel about solos too.  That's the other part of it.  Lots of guys are techincal and good musicians, but what is impressive is a band, playing well as a unit, making my head move.I'm gonna have to check out a few of these suggestions just to be fair though.

lleeder

02-20-2007, 01:30 PM

I have a neighbor whose teen son is into some kind of noise called drum solos. I hear him blasting it from his car, and the so called drumming cracks me up. Is it a gay thing? I never see him hanging with any chicks? Can comeone please tell me what's the story with this awful noise?

burrben

02-20-2007, 01:30 PM

since the drumming sucks in most music i listen to, i'll say"in a gadda da vida" - I. Ron Butterfly

Mike Teacher

02-20-2007, 01:36 PM

That is exactly how I feel about solos too.  That's the other part of it.  Lots of guys are techincal and good musicians, but what is impressive is a band, playing well as a unit, making my head move.=Bingo !!!Perfect example: Mike Portnoy of Dream Theatre. Now I caught them live early on 'Images and Words' tour and they blew me away, Mike especially. This guy can hit it; like a slightly looser Peart. And then they devolve from making some good music into this math-rock 40 minute long epic song opus with multiple parts unlistenable Crap.Being technical for technicals sake = death to music.

Jughead

02-20-2007, 01:43 PM

<img src="http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9G_RtkjedtFwUAAAzCjzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN 0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=131ukaia7/EXP=1172097699/**http%3A//www.soundperformancelab.com/Ref/Bilder/300%2520pixel/Kenny_Aronoff.jpg" border="0" />Kenny Aronoff...Just my  fav...

BLZBUBBA

02-20-2007, 01:47 PM

Al Franken would once a year,  throw it to England via satellite for "The Queen's Annual Drum Solo".  They'd have someone there covering it for the show....usually Nigel Chesney who sounded oddly like Franken with a British accent.  Maybe they were related.  The solo went on and on.  Presumably the old woman really has stamina.  Chesney would chime in during the show and comment on how she was "working the toms" or "popping the pedal" as she played in the background.  Very entertaining.  I'll go with The Queen's annual drum solo as my favorite. 

sailor

02-20-2007, 03:20 PM

FezPaul wrote: sailor wrote: live version of yyz on exit...stage left. That's what I was was going to say.But Der Trommler from R30 is great too. i'm a younger, prettier, less-talented you.  :)

Captain Rooster

02-20-2007, 03:29 PM

Gotta go with Neil Peart ... from the Exit Stage Left album, playing YYZ, rolling into the drum solo, and then having Geddy and Alex come back in after the killer roll through his entire drum set.  That's my fav.

FUNKMAN

02-20-2007, 03:40 PM

<img src="http://www.drummerworld.com/pics/drum/dpa48/CarlPalmer.jpg" border="0" width="550" height="375" />Bonham then Palmer

Bossanova

02-20-2007, 03:41 PM

TheVHD

02-20-2007, 05:40 PM

I agree with the thinking that recorded drum solo's do not have the impact of a LIVE solo... and even better is a SOLID drummer who can add some sweet fills into a song or some off time stuff just to change the dynamic a little but then bring it all back together with the band... that's when you can electrify an audience.  My favorite drummers:Keith Moon-the Who, Raymond Herrera- Fear Factory, Tre Cool- Green Day, Jamie Miller- Snot

mendyweiss

02-20-2007, 05:57 PM

What was that kid's name who played with Santana at Woodstock 69. He was pretty damn good !I think the song was Soul Sacrifice

led37zep

02-20-2007, 07:13 PM

John Bonham...MOBY DICK!

Rockvillejoe

02-20-2007, 08:12 PM

hear me out. as unhip as it may sound, you can't argue that the drummer from grand funk railroad was no slouch.....

BLZBUBBA

02-20-2007, 08:26 PM

There was this cat,  Buddy Rich that used to be on Carson's TONIGHT SHOW playing drums when I was a kid.  Like that wasn't the only reason he'd be on either. He also had a wicked sense of humor.  And he was cool in every sense of the word.  Supposedly the best jazz drummer of all time.

barjockey

02-20-2007, 08:38 PM

i saw keith moon really tear it up at MSG in 1975 but today i think Danny Carey is the best.                         <img src="http://www.drummerworld.com/pics/drum21vid/dannycarey3.jpg" border="0" width="400" height="300" />

barjockey

02-20-2007, 08:47 PM

A secret favorite of mine is Chris Partridge                                     <img src="http://www.starwarsautographcollecting.com/Autographs/OtherAutographs/BrianForster.jpg" border="0" width="300" height="250" />

JamMaster

02-21-2007, 02:31 AM

raulfd4 wrote: Primus - "Tommy The Cat" (Live) As Les Claypool puts it:"The man.  The myth.  The pseudo-Mexican....Brain." I am a "Herb" man myself and when he left Primus I had an unfounded hate of "Brain".  But after I saw Tommy the Cat  on YouTube with Brain playing the solo....I was blown away.  Damn good drummer.The solo during YYZis one of my favorites as well, but the newer solo that Neil did on the Rush for Rio DVD is awesome as well.  I loved how he sequenced in with the big band finish.Also cant forget Terry Bozzio....this is cool<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzt6PwuQABk">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzt6PwuQABk</a>

Bob Impact

02-21-2007, 04:48 AM

<img src="http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j256/thundergod111/th_AQUA_TEEN_HUNGER_FORCE_V3_D2-8.jpg" border="0" width="160" height="120" /> That guy from Foghat, that's my drummer. GOOGITA GOOGITA GOO!

Death Metal Moe

02-21-2007, 06:12 AM

Bob Impact wrote: <img src="http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j256/thundergod111/th_AQUA_TEEN_HUNGER_FORCE_V3_D2-8.jpg" border="0" width="160" height="120" /> That guy from Foghat, that's my drummer. GOOGITA GOOGITA GOO!Make sure your abs are friggin ripped.  You got some good guns.  You wanna look good for when you get stabbed with a knife.

busybeeman

02-22-2007, 05:55 AM

busybeeman wrote: Rockvillejoe wrote: "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss" (MEL?)..Catching todays opening song, the Who's "Won't Get Fooled Again", had me beating the hell out of my steering wheel on the BW parkway while playing along to the drum solo towards the end. What's yours, the Beatles' "The End" solo? pray tell..... Rock and Roll drummer?  No competition.  Bonzo<a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Image:Bonzo.JPG" title="John Bonham, 1973"><img class="thumbimage" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/68/Bonzo.JPG/300px-Bonzo.JPG" border="0" alt="John Bonham, 1973" width="300" height="204" /></a> * class="thumbcaption">* class="magnify" style="float: right"><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Image:Bonzo.JPG" title="Enlarge"><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/skins-1.5/common/images/magnify-clip.png" border="0" width="15" height="11" /></a> John Bonham, 1973 * ><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bonham">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bonham</a> <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Image:JohnBonham.jpg" title="John Bonham c.1970"><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/01/JohnBonham.jpg/220px-JohnBonham.jpg" border="0" alt="John Bonham c.1970" width="220" height="225" /></a>* >John Bonham c.1970 * Bonham was born in <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Redditch" title="Redditch">Redditch</a>, <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Worcestershire" title="Worcestershire">Worcestershire</a>, <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/England" title="England">England</a>. He first learned how to play drums at the age of five, making a drum kit out of containers and coffee tins, and copying the moves of his idols <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Gene_Krupa" title="Gene Krupa">Gene Krupa</a> and <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Buddy_Rich" title="Buddy Rich">Buddy Rich</a>. He received his first proper <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Drum_kit" title="Drum kit">drum kit</a> at the age of fourteen, a <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Premier_Percussion" title="Premier Percussion">Premier Percussion</a>. After leaving Wiltan House public school ( some sources say he attended Bedford Modern ) he worked for his father Jack Bonham in the construction industry in between drumming for different local bands. In <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/1964" title="1964">1964</a>, Bonham joined his first band, <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/w/index.php?title=Terry_Webb_and_the_Spiders&action= edit" title="Terry Webb and the Spiders">Terry Webb and the Spiders</a>, meeting his future wife Pat Phillips at a dance in <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Kidderminster" title="Kidderminster">Kidderminster</a>. He also played in other <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Birmingham" title="Birmingham">Birmingham</a> bands such as The Blue Star Trio and The Senators, who released a moderately successful single "She's a Mod". Bonham enjoyed the experience and decided to take up drumming full-time. Two years later, he joined A Way of Life, but the band soon became inactive. In desperation for a regular income, he joined a <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Blues" title="Blues">blues</a> group called <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/w/index.php?title=Crawling_King_Snakes&action=edit" title="Crawling King Snakes">Crawling King Snakes</a> whose lead singer was a young <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Robert_Plant" title="Robert Plant">Robert Plant</a>.During this period, Bonham developed a reputation as the loudest drummer in England, often breaking drumheads and being asked by clubs to stop playing. Asked to leave one Birmingham studio because he was too loud for the owner, he was told that there was no future for a drummer who played as loudly as he did. Ten years later, the owner received a

jetdog

02-22-2007, 12:59 PM

Mike Teacher wrote: Even live, most drum solos [and guitar solos, and bass solos, and especially keyboard solos] are Lame, IMHO.'Ooohh wow check him out, he's all technical...' Enough! It's almost always wasted concert time.Even the God-Like Neil Peart, who I've seen live since Moving Pictures, never really had a solo that's as good as his breaks in say Tom Sawyer or Freewill. And whoever mentioned 'Fool In The Rain' by Bonzo/Led Zep? Wonderful perfect example of masterful playing inside a track. I'd rather hear really cool drumming that's part of a musical group then a solo.The '100,000 Years' solo is funny for me in that my friend is such a KISS head he does the whole friggin thing on a counter/chair/whatever, including everything Paul says, from memory, whenever he gets a few beers in him. Hysterical. I like Brufords stuff; but again, in a song.Gotta agree, I just listened to the begining of Xanadu, fucking amazing.  I would have to say almost any Rush song could probably be stripped of the others tracks and be a good drum solo.

raulfd4

02-22-2007, 03:02 PM

the thing about drum solos that never made sense to me is that it just seems to be a time for the rest of the band to take a break and go drink a beer or something back stage for five minutes.but the drummer is definitely working the hardest out of anyone.  that doesn't seem fair to me.

zildjian361

02-22-2007, 04:36 PM

it started with DINO DANELIE from the YOUNG RASCALS, next CARMINE APPICE from the one and only VANILLA FUDGE, LED ZEPS JOHN B last but not least THE MIGHTY MAX.<img src="/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/king.gif" border="0" width="25" height="27" />

riverofpiss

02-22-2007, 05:15 PM

barjockey wrote: i saw keith moon really tear it up at MSG in 1975 but today i think Danny Carey is the best.                         <img src="http://www.drummerworld.com/pics/drum21vid/dannycarey3.jpg" border="0" width="400" height="300" />Danny Carey is amazing to watch live.  I have seen Tool twice but I don't remember a drum solo at the shows I was at.  The best drum solo I have seen was from Joey Jordison on the Ministry tour last summer.  Unbelievable.<a onclick="return fitsInWindow();"><img src="http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/5367/june60410gc7.jpg" border="0" alt="img257/5367/june60410gc7.jpg" title="Click to visit ImageShack for Image Hosting!" width="400" height="265" /></a>

FUNKMAN

02-22-2007, 05:20 PM

Rockvillejoe wrote: hear me out. as unhip as it may sound, you can't argue that the drummer from grand funk railroad was no slouch..... Donnie Brewer   Good Call My Man!!!!<img src="http://www.rockzirkus.de/lexikon/bilder/g/grand/wonder.jpg" border="0" width="200" height="200" /><img src="http://www.trevor-millin.de/images/don_brewer1.jpg" border="0" width="315" height="411" />

Drunky McBetidont

02-22-2007, 05:25 PM

raulfd4 wrote: the thing about drum solos that never made sense to me is that it just seems to be a time for the rest of the band to take a break and go drink a beer or something back stage for five minutes.but the drummer is definitely working the hardest out of anyone.  that doesn't seem fair to me. greatful dead always did drums, then space (where the drummers got a break)  i always thought that was more fair