American Indians (a/k/a Native Americans) [Archive]

Fat_Sunny

02-19-2007, 06:57 PM

Fat Is Currently Reading A Book On The Pilgrims And Their Relations With The Indians Of New England.  It Is Quite Fascinating.  Fat Had Never Realized The Extent Of Their Interactions, And The Complicated Relationships Between Them.  The First Generation Pilgrims Had (Basically) Positive Relations, But The 2nd Generation Of Pilgrims And Indians Ended Up In A Bloody War That Decimated The Indians (Along With European Diseases).Other Than Old Cowboy And Indian Movies, And Lonesome Dove, Fat Does Not Know As Much As He Should About The American Indians.  Can Anyone Recommend Any Historically Accurate Books On Indians? Fat Has A Feeling That The Indians Really Got The Short End Of The Stick, But He Would Like To Learn More.

Drunky McBetidont

02-19-2007, 07:03 PM

Fat_Sunny wrote: Fat Is Currently Reading A Book On The Pilgrims And Their Relations With The Indians Of New England.  It Is Quite Fascinating.  Fat Had Never Realized The Extent Of Their Interactions, And The Complicated Relationships Between Them.  The First Generation Pilgrims Had (Basically) Positive Relations, But The 2nd Generation Of Pilgrims And Indians Ended Up In A Bloody War That Decimated The Indians (Along With European Diseases).Other Than Old Cowboy And Indian Movies, And Lonesome Dove, Fat Does Not Know As Much As He Should About The American Indians.  Can Anyone Recommend Any Historically Accurate Books On Indians? Fat Has A Feeling That The Indians Really Got The Short End Of The Stick, But He Would Like To Learn More.kind of one sided but, bury my heart at wounded knee by dee brown is a clasic

Kevin

02-19-2007, 07:05 PM

I am convinced that Fat is LLEEDER... Who else starts more threads??

Fat_Sunny

02-19-2007, 07:10 PM

Kevin wrote: I am convinced that Fat is LLEEDER... Who else starts more threads?? This Speculation Must End NOW!  Three Theories In Two Days.  It Is Just Too Much For Fat To Bear.Thank You, BetIDont.  Fat Will Read It.

weekapaugjz

02-19-2007, 07:12 PM

Fat_Sunny wrote: Fat Is Currently Reading A Book On The Pilgrims And Their Relations With The Indians Of New England. It Is Quite Fascinating. Fat Had Never Realized The Extent Of Their Interactions, And The Complicated Relationships Between Them. The First Generation Pilgrims Had (Basically) Positive Relations, But The 2nd Generation Of Pilgrims And Indians Ended Up In A Bloody War That Decimated The Indians (Along With European Diseases).Other Than Old Cowboy And Indian Movies, And Lonesome Dove, Fat Does Not Know As Much As He Should About The American Indians. Can Anyone Recommend Any Historically Accurate Books On Indians? Fat Has A Feeling That The Indians Really Got The Short End Of The Stick, But He Would Like To Learn More. you should read about the events surrouding king phillips war. it is some crazy stuff.  women and children being kidnapped by "savages" but not wanting to return to puritan societies.  a lot of the warfare especially in maine and new hampshire was pretty brutal because they were very remote and were prone to many attacks.  i read a book last semester that attempted to link the salem witch trials to the violence stemming from indian wars and ensuing property claims.  if you don't mind reading something from a slightly feminist viewpoint, i would suggest checking it out.  its called, In the Devil's  Snare, by Mary Beth Norton.i also just picked up a book on sale entitled, "the american indian wars" which i plan on starting very soon.  it covers from first contact up through the plains devastations.  it sounds pretty interesting.  native american history is probably one of my weakest in the discipline and would like to find out more about it.

Fat_Sunny

02-19-2007, 07:18 PM

weekapaugjz wrote:  you should read about the events surrouding king phillips war. it is some crazy stuff.  women and children being kidnapped by "savages" but not wanting to return to puritan societies.  a lot of the warfare especially in maine and new hampshire was pretty brutal because they were very remote and were prone to many attacks.  i read a book last semester that attempted to link the salem witch trials to the violence stemming from indian wars and ensuing property claims.  if you don't mind reading something from a slightly feminist viewpoint, i would suggest checking it out.  its called, In the Devil's  Snare, by Mary Beth Norton.i also just picked up a book on sale entitled, "the american indian wars" which i plan on starting very soon.  it covers from first contact up through the plains devastations.  it sounds pretty interesting.  native american history is probably one of my weakest in the discipline and would like to find out more about it.JZ, King Phillips War Is The War That Ends The Book Fat's Reading (Mayflower Is The Name Of The Book).  Fat Is A History Buff, But He Doesn't Remember Learning About That In School.Couldn't Agree More With Your Comment In Red.  Fat's Goal For 2007 Is To Get A Much Better Education On Native American History!

weekapaugjz

02-19-2007, 07:25 PM

Fat_Sunny wrote: weekapaugjz wrote:JZ, King Phillips War Is The War That Ends The Book Fat's Reading (Mayflower Is The Name Of The Book). Fat Is A History Buff, But He Doesn't Remember Learning About That In School.Couldn't Agree More With Your Comment In Red. Fat's Goal For 2007 Is To Get A Much Better Education On Native American History! fs, the reason kids don't learn about this stuff in school is because teachers in most states have to follow a very heavily content driven curriculum.  it is extremely dense and difficult to get through all the material.  so teachers choose "what is important to know"  for the high-stakes testing set up by no child left behind, and leave out multiple perspectives of oppressed groups.  also, sad to say, many teachers simply do not have the historical knowledge they should have to be teaching history courses.  if you went took a poll of hs history teachers who could explain king phillips war (or any other "minor" event), i feel they would be unable to do it.

Fat_Sunny

02-19-2007, 07:36 PM

As An Adult, Fat Has Come To Realize That The American History He Learned In School Was Very Much The History Of The English In America, And How Their Institutions And That Culture Evolved In The New Continent.Unfortunately, That Was The Only "Thread" The History Books Taught.  For Example, Growing Up, Fat Was A Big Fan Of Andrew Jackson.  But He Never Heard About The Trail Of Tears (When Jackson Forced All The Indians Out Of The South East).  Had Fat Known About That, He Would Not Have Been A Fan Of Jackson's.

lleeder

02-19-2007, 07:39 PM

Fat_Sunny wrote: Kevin wrote: I am convinced that Fat is LLEEDER... Who else starts more threads?? This Speculation Must End NOW!  Three Theories In Two Days.  It Is Just Too Much For Fat To Bear.Thank You, BetIDont.  Fat Will Read It.LLEEDER Thinks Fat Is Ok. If He Is My Other Personality I Won't Shoot Myself In The Head To Get Rid Of Him.

Drunky McBetidont

08-31-2009, 05:37 PM

for drjoek. :)

we all miss him.

sr71blackbird

08-31-2009, 06:00 PM

Fat Sunny was good, but weird. He must have spent more time typing caps for each word and talking in second person and gave up for the effort.

epo

08-31-2009, 07:18 PM

God Damn It! Stop Bumping Fat_Sunny Threads And Making Me Hope That He Came Back.

Sombitches!

Dude!

08-31-2009, 07:26 PM

Fat Sunny was good, but weird. He must have spent more time typing caps for each word and talking in second person and gave up for the effort.

there are a bunch of weird people
on this site

one douchebag actually wrote
a letter to Mary Jo Buttafuoco
thanking her for keeping her family together!

hard to believe, but true