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Fat_Sunny

02-05-2007, 08:21 PM

Fat Is The First To Admit He Is Not Always On Top Of Current Events, So This May Be Very Common Knowledge, But It Took Fat Totally By Surprise.Tonight On CNN (on XM Radio), Fat Heard The Paris Hilton Of Reporters (Anderson Cooper...You'd Be A Paris Hilton Too If Your Mom Was Gloria Vanderbilt) Interviewing Several People On The Theory That Jeffrey Dahmer May Have Killed Adam Walsh (6-Year Old Son Of America's Most Wanted Host John Walsh) in 1981.Dahmer Was In Florida At The Time And Two Witnesses Placed Him At The Same Mall On The Same Day Adam Was Nabbed.  The Little Boy Was Later Found, Dismembered, Which Is What Dahmer Did To His Victims.Fat Is Just Hearing About This In 2007.  Has This Theory Been Kicking Around For Years???

Team_Ramrod

02-05-2007, 08:26 PM

WOW!I've never heard that.If I ever seen that Dahmer I'd sove a mop handle right up his anus!  I heard his son's death was the reason he started with AMW but I had never heard such a high profile killer was linked to it.

JPMNICK

02-05-2007, 08:34 PM

That is a very interesting theory, I had never heard that one before. is there a new book or something out about this?

Fat_Sunny

02-05-2007, 08:35 PM

Here's A Link To An Article In A Milwaukee Newspaper, Giving A Little Of The Background.  Very Interesting And Surprising:<a href="http://www.themilwaukeechannel.com/news/10903529/detail.html">http://www.themilwaukeechannel.com/news/10903529/detail.html</a>

TheGameHHH

02-05-2007, 09:03 PM

there was something on CNN.com about it yesterday, but it was a video and not an article so i didnt click on it. i wonder if the theory holds water

PapaBear

02-05-2007, 09:25 PM

There's no way in Hell he did it. There were several things they mentioned on CNN to discredit it. The one that got me the most... He admitted to all of his other killings, but flatly denied he had anything to do with Walsh. Not to mention, Walsh was so much younger than the other victims.

Kevin

02-05-2007, 09:27 PM

Fat_Sunny wrote: Here's A Link To An Article In A Milwaukee Newspaper, Giving A Little Of The Background. Very Interesting And Surprising:<a href="http://www.themilwaukeechannel.com/news/10903529/detail.html">http://www.themilwaukeechannel.com/news/10903529/detail.html</a> WOW!!!! the most interesting part of all this is......                         FAT DID NOT REFER TO HIMSELF IN 3RD PERSON!!!!! 

This message was edited by Kevin on 2-6-07 @ 1:30 AM

Fat_Sunny

02-05-2007, 09:33 PM

Kevin wrote: <a href="http://www.themilwaukeechannel.com/news/10903529/detail.html"></a>WOW!!!! the most interesting part of all this is......FAT DID NOT REFER TO HIMSELF IN 3RD PERSON!!!!! This message was edited by Kevin on 2-6-07 @ 1:30 AM Dang, You Beat Fat To The Correction!

Poochie

02-05-2007, 11:28 PM

I got to agree with Papa, I don't think he did it. He gave up information on everyone he killed beginning in 1978, including all the nasty details. In the end he wanted nothing more than to confess his evils, so why wouldn't he have confessed to killing the Walsh kid? And, he didn't kill boys that young, usually a serial killer with his mind set only kills that same 'type' of people, in his case teenager/young adult and gay-with the exception of his first kill in '78 (a hitchhiker), which was the practice. He wanted to find the lasting, ultimate sexual partner which is why he would kill, dismember and eat.Ok, I may know a little too much about him...it was disturbingly exciting news here!!

spazemunky

02-06-2007, 01:28 AM

this is a stretch, and i'm sure rehashing the feelings of a dismembered son is something Mr Walsh wants right now.  cheers!

Reephdweller

02-06-2007, 01:44 AM

I've never heard that either, though I'll have to go with Papabear on this. I think he was always pretty open about the killings, so he would have admitted it if he'd done it.

PapaBear

02-06-2007, 02:46 AM

spazemunky wrote: this is a stretch, and i'm sure rehashing the feelings of a dismembered son is something Mr Walsh wants right now.  cheers! The sad part is, John Walsh wants it investigated further. I hate to say it, but I think he may be acting in a bit of a self serving way here. He knows damn well Dahmer didn't do it. I really wouldn't put it past John Walsh to use this for the publicity. He hasn't always been considered as selfless as people would have you believe.

Fezticle98

02-06-2007, 05:31 AM

PapaBear wrote: spazemunky wrote: this is a stretch, and i'm sure rehashing the feelings of a dismembered son is something Mr Walsh wants right now. cheers! The sad part is, John Walsh wants it investigated further. I hate to say it, but I think he may be acting in a bit of a self serving way here. He knows damn well Dahmer didn't do it. I really wouldn't put it past John Walsh to use this for the publicity. He hasn't always been considered as selfless as people would have you believe. Yeah, I'm tired of his macho headgames.

Tenbatsuzen

02-06-2007, 05:45 AM

Wasn't Dahmer very very young in 1981?  Like, 12? 

This message was edited by Tenbatsuzen on 2-6-07 @ 9:46 AM

MadMatt

02-06-2007, 05:48 AM

Poochie wrote: I got to agree with Papa, I don't think he did it. He gave up information on everyone he killed beginning in 1978, including all the nasty details. In the end he wanted nothing more than to confess his evils, so why wouldn't he have confessed to killing the Walsh kid? And, he didn't kill boys that young, usually a serial killer with his mind set only kills that same 'type' of people, in his case teenager/young adult and gay-with the exception of his first kill in '78 (a hitchhiker), which was the practice. He wanted to find the lasting, ultimate sexual partner which is why he would kill, dismember and eat.Ok, I may know a little too much about him...it was disturbingly exciting news here!!Poochie, you stole my post.  Dahmer "tortured" and killed his victims as part of his sexual needs and I don't think a kid as young as Walsh would do it for him.  In addition to just "confessing his evils," Dahmer became a born again Christian at the end of his life.  He wanted a sense of absolution for his crimes.  He would have admitted to killing Adam Walsh IMO.

sailor

02-06-2007, 05:51 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Wasn't Dahmer very very young in 1981? Like, 12?  This message was edited by Tenbatsuzen on 2-6-07 @ 9:46 AM i don't know when he was born, but given that his first kill was '78, that would have made him 9?  i think your math is off.

Zorro

02-06-2007, 05:52 AM

I am not bothered by the John Walsh thing. He seems a good fit to turn from bereaved Dad into crusader. But Polly Klaas' father freaks me out. Everytime I see him on tv wearing the button with his daughter's pic I think "dude, how much longer can you milk this." aside from the fact that he is just creepy looking

Tenbatsuzen

02-06-2007, 05:57 AM

Zorro wrote: I am not bothered by the John Walsh thing. He seems a good fit to turn from bereaved Dad into crusader. But Polly Klaas' father freaks me out. Everytime I see him on tv wearing the button with his daughter's pic I think "dude, how much longer can you milk this." aside from the fact that he is just creepy looking I found Polly's dad yelling at her killer "BURN IN HELL!" during his sentencing and all hell breaking loose very funny.

TheMojoPin

02-06-2007, 05:58 AM

There's zero reason for Dahmer not to have confessed to this killing when he couldn't be stopped spilling out the gory details of every other killing he had done.  Looking over his Crime Library entry, Dahmer seemed to really target minorities or at least guys with "darker" skin, and typically younger men between 13 and early 20's (with a few scattered excepptions, but those guys were older, not younger).  He was also big on being able to kill them wherever he was living and then keeping them there.  Serial killers tend to establish their "type" and patters pretty early, and the death of Adam Walsh, horrible as it is, doesn't seem to fit at all.

This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 2-6-07 @ 10:01 AM

reillyluck

02-06-2007, 06:00 AM

WOW.  thats a theory huh!  never heard about that, but it is interesting.  I didnt know anderson Cooper was Gloria Vanderbuilts son!   Didnt Adam walsh get kicked out of the store with two other kids because they were fighting over a video game?  who were the two kids? could one of them been Jeffrey????  hmmm......

PapaBear

02-06-2007, 06:02 AM

Dahmer was 21 in in 1981. He wasn't a kid.

TheMojoPin

02-06-2007, 06:03 AM

reillyluck wrote: WOW.  thats a theory huh!  never heard about that, but it is interesting.  I didnt know anderson Cooper was Gloria Vanderbuilts son!   Didnt Adam walsh get kicked out of the store with two other kids because they were fighting over a video game?  who were the two kids? could one of them been Jeffrey????  hmmm......Dahmer would have been 20-21 in 1981.Thanks, Wikipedia!

grlNIN

02-06-2007, 06:11 AM

My parents lived around the same area in Florida with my oldest brother when this happened and my Mom would sometimes recall the day it happened and everything. It's really fucked up and tragic, all things considered,As far as it being Dahmer, i don't think it's true. Just one of the severely crazies.

reillyluck

02-06-2007, 06:11 AM

thanks guys.  i wasnt sure.  thank goodness wikipedia!!!!!

badorties

02-06-2007, 06:24 AM

fezticle98 wrote: PapaBear wrote: spazemunky wrote: this is a stretch, and i'm sure rehashing the feelings of a dismembered son is something Mr Walsh wants right now. cheers! The sad part is, John Walsh wants it investigated further. I hate to say it, but I think he may be acting in a bit of a self serving way here. He knows damn well Dahmer didn't do it. I really wouldn't put it past John Walsh to use this for the publicity. He hasn't always been considered as selfless as people would have you believe. Yeah, I'm tired of his macho headgames.there's some schtick associated with himbut there's a sincerity in his actions ... anyone who loses their son in such a fashion is entitled to behave pretty much anyway by mesure, the constant leather jacket is a bit cheesey ... but he's spent the last 25 years devoting his life(style) to helping kids

reillyluck

02-06-2007, 06:27 AM

and not to mention how many assholes he's put back in jail because of his passion.  I love America's Most Wanted.  I record it every week.

sailor

02-06-2007, 06:44 AM

TheMojoPin wrote: There's zero reason for Dahmer not to have confessed to this killing when he couldn't be stopped spilling out the gory details of every other killing he had done. Looking over his Crime Library entry, Dahmer seemed to really target minorities or at least guys with "darker" skin, and typically younger men between 13 and early 20's (with a few scattered excepptions, but those guys were older, not younger). He was also big on being able to kill them wherever he was living and then keeping them there. Serial killers tend to establish their "type" and patters pretty early, and the death of Adam Walsh, horrible as it is, doesn't seem to fit at all. This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 2-6-07 @ 10:01 AM zero reason, other than he's a sociopath?  perhaps he didn't want to give closure to john walsh, seeing as he's so high profile.  maybe he was "bothered" afterward that adam was so young?  whether or not you believe he was involved, i think it's wrong to think that people like dahmer can be counted on to act rationally.

ralphbxny

02-06-2007, 06:50 AM

reillyluck wrote: and not to mention how many assholes he's put back in jail because of his passion.  I love America's Most Wanted.  I record it every week.   I havent watched it in years, but I would look and swear id seen everyone on it.

TheMojoPin

02-06-2007, 07:29 AM

sailor wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: There's zero reason for Dahmer not to have confessed to this killing when he couldn't be stopped spilling out the gory details of every other killing he had done. Looking over his Crime Library entry, Dahmer seemed to really target minorities or at least guys with "darker" skin, and typically younger men between 13 and early 20's (with a few scattered excepptions, but those guys were older, not younger). He was also big on being able to kill them wherever he was living and then keeping them there. Serial killers tend to establish their "type" and patters pretty early, and the death of Adam Walsh, horrible as it is, doesn't seem to fit at all. This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 2-6-07 @ 10:01 AM  zero reason, other than he's a sociopath?  perhaps he didn't want to give closure to john walsh, seeing as he's so high profile.  maybe he was "bothered" afterward that adam was so young?  whether or not you believe he was involved, i think it's wrong to think that people like dahmer can be counted on to act rationally. Well, it's all well and good to think that these guys are some kind of diabolical supervillain, sitting back and tenting their fingers with glee as they play with their enemies all Hannibal Lector-like...the problem is, that's just not how life works.  Serial killers almost always work in very clear patterns in all aspect of their lives, especially when it comes to their killings.  It's incredibly unlikely. given what we know from countless psycholgical studies of serial killers over the decades, that he would tell so much about all of his other killings and then clam up over one.  You'd likely either see a pattern of him lying or hiding things repeatedly or him explaining the facts as they actually are.  In this case, the latter is abundantly true.  Little in the Adam Walsh case, besides really that he was murdered, matches up with the patterns and behaviors that Dahmer defined himself with in his killings.

sailor

02-06-2007, 07:33 AM

TheMojoPin wrote: sailor wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: There's zero reason for Dahmer not to have confessed to this killing when he couldn't be stopped spilling out the gory details of every other killing he had done. Looking over his Crime Library entry, Dahmer seemed to really target minorities or at least guys with "darker" skin, and typically younger men between 13 and early 20's (with a few scattered excepptions, but those guys were older, not younger). He was also big on being able to kill them wherever he was living and then keeping them there. Serial killers tend to establish their "type" and patters pretty early, and the death of Adam Walsh, horrible as it is, doesn't seem to fit at all. This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 2-6-07 @ 10:01 AM zero reason, other than he's a sociopath? perhaps he didn't want to give closure to john walsh, seeing as he's so high profile. maybe he was "bothered" afterward that adam was so young? whether or not you believe he was involved, i think it's wrong to think that people like dahmer can be counted on to act rationally. Well, it's all well and good to think that these guys are some kind of diabolical supervillain, sitting back and tenting their fingers with glee as they play with their enemies all Hannibal Lector-like...the problem is, that's just not how life works. Serial killers almost always work in very clear patterns in all aspect of their lives, especially when it comes to their killings. It's incredibly unlikely. given what we know from countless psycholgical studies of serial killers over the decades, that he would tell so much about all of his other killings and then clam up over one. You'd likely either see a pattern of him lying or hiding things repeatedly or him explaining the facts as they actually are. In this case, the latter is abundantly true. Little in the Adam Walsh case, besides really that he was murdered, matches up with the patterns and behaviors that Dahmer defined himself with in his killings. who said super villain?  i just said he's not necessarily rational.

TheMojoPin

02-06-2007, 07:42 AM

sailor wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: sailor wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: There's zero reason for Dahmer not to have confessed to this killing when he couldn't be stopped spilling out the gory details of every other killing he had done. Looking over his Crime Library entry, Dahmer seemed to really target minorities or at least guys with "darker" skin, and typically younger men between 13 and early 20's (with a few scattered excepptions, but those guys were older, not younger). He was also big on being able to kill them wherever he was living and then keeping them there. Serial killers tend to establish their "type" and patters pretty early, and the death of Adam Walsh, horrible as it is, doesn't seem to fit at all. This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 2-6-07 @ 10:01 AM zero reason, other than he's a sociopath? perhaps he didn't want to give closure to john walsh, seeing as he's so high profile. maybe he was "bothered" afterward that adam was so young? whether or not you believe he was involved, i think it's wrong to think that people like dahmer can be counted on to act rationally. Well, it's all well and good to think that these guys are some kind of diabolical supervillain, sitting back and tenting their fingers with glee as they play with their enemies all Hannibal Lector-like...the problem is, that's just not how life works. Serial killers almost always work in very clear patterns in all aspect of their lives, especially when it comes to their killings. It's incredibly unlikely. given what we know from countless psycholgical studies of serial killers over the decades, that he would tell so much about all of his other killings and then clam up over one. You'd likely either see a pattern of him lying or hiding things repeatedly or him explaining the facts as they actually are. In this case, the latter is abundantly true. Little in the Adam Walsh case, besides really that he was murdered, matches up with the patterns and behaviors that Dahmer defined himself with in his killings. who said super villain?  i just said he's not necessarily rational. And that's kind of the point I'm trying to make.  These guys aren't rational.  It's highly unlikely he's going to suddenly get all secretive and hidden about one of his killings when he's been so open about the others.  With serial killers, that could actually be seen as more of a rational act of protection, which flies in the face of how they typically want to "re-live" their killings.  Dahmer explaining his killings in detail was a way for him to do that on a large scale.  Very similar to the really awful and creepy testimony that we saw the BDK guy do a couple years back after he was finally caught.  It's incrdfibly unlikely, not impossible, true, but very unlikely that once someone like Dahmer has started sharing the details, more for his own benefit than anyone else because it's what he's "into" on an almost primal level, that he's suddenly going to deny himself that satisfaction by hiding a murder.  There are killers who do seemingly get what they want by hiding what they've done and making things difficult for the authorites, but again, you see a pattern of that with them.  Dahmer showed no such pattern.

riverofpiss

02-06-2007, 09:31 AM

I watched this story on CNN last night and they mentioned that the reason that Dahmer might not have mentioned Adam Walsh in his confessions was because Florida has the death penalty.  He was tried in Wisconsin where there was no death penalty.  Could his lawyer have convinced him to do this?  Probably.Also, looking at wikipedia, Dahmer was arrested for sexually fondling a 13 year old boy in 1988, just  three years before he was arrested for the murders.  This shows that the age of the victim didn't matter to him so the fact that Walsh was young shouldn't matter.

Crispy123

02-06-2007, 09:37 AM

riverofpiss wrote: I watched this story on CNN last night and they mentioned that the reason that Dahmer might not have mentioned Adam Walsh in his confessions was because Florida has the death penalty. He was tried in Wisconsin where there was no death penalty. Could his lawyer have convinced him to do this? Probably.Also, looking at wikipedia, Dahmer was arrested for sexually fondling a 13 year old boy in 1988, just three years before he was arrested for the murders. This shows that the age of the victim didn't matter to him so the fact that Walsh was young shouldn't matter. Uh river, you clearly did not see the previous posts. The argument is over and there is no reason for Dahmer to not fit the nice tidy little picture of a serial killer we have all been fed by hollywood. quit making sense your ruining the thread.

riverofpiss

02-06-2007, 10:13 AM

OK.  From now on I am going to trust whatever serial necrophiliac murderers say.  They never lie.

TheMojoPin

02-06-2007, 10:19 AM

riverofpiss wrote: Also, looking at wikipedia, Dahmer was arrested for sexually fondling a 13 year old boy in 1988, just  three years before he was arrested for the murders.  This shows that the age of the victim didn't matter to him so the fact that Walsh was young shouldn't matter.That's an incorrect assumption.Adam Walsh was 6 when he was killed.  There's usually a huge difference between a 6-year-old and a 13-year-old.  Dahmer's youngest murder victims were 14...again, big difference between a young teen and a 6-year-old.  And if you look at the 13-year-old and the two 14-year-olds in Dahmer's case, they're either Laotian or Latino/Hispanic, again fitting in with Dahmer's well established pattern of targeting "darker skinned" minorities.  Walsh doesn't fit that pattern at all.

TheMojoPin

02-06-2007, 10:24 AM

riverofpiss wrote: OK.  From now on I am going to trust whatever serial necrophiliac murderers say.  They never lie. When they've decided to share explicit details about every murder they've seemingly committed, no, it's incredibly rare for them to hold back and "hide" an indvidual murder.  You're giving him way too much credit in thinking that he'd try and hide killing Adam Walsh.  Admitting to and describing the murders would appeal to his basest desires...the same monstrous desires that led him to kill in the first place.  Hiding Adam's murder does nothing for him and actually deprives him of the satsifaction he gets by being able to "re-live" the murders through his confessions.  Again, it's highly unlikely that he wouldn't confess to such a murder.Bottom line, the evidence here doesn't amount to much.  A horrible scumbag like Dahmer is certainly capable of doing this, but basic psychological and forensic investigation really makes it seem incredibly unlikely.  The best argument seems to be "Dahmer killed people...he was in Florida when Adam was killed...he must have done it!"  The murder doesn't match up at all with his killing patterns/behavior, and not admitting to the murder doesn't match up at all with his very explicit pattern of behavior and confessions after he was caught.

riverofpiss

02-06-2007, 10:35 AM

Sounds like you know alot about this stuff Mojo.  I was wrong about Adam Walsh's age, I thought he was older, like 10.  That is a stretch to go for a 6 year old, but Walsh would have been one of his first victims.  Maybe Dahmer hadn't found his "groove" yet.  Probably was some other sick fuck from Fla. though, I agree with you Mojo.

FUNKMAN

02-06-2007, 10:42 AM

it may have been him. especially because of what they found in dahmer's bathroom...head and shoulders

riverofpiss

02-06-2007, 10:47 AM

FUNKMAN wrote: it may have been him. especially because of what they found in dahmer's bathroom...head and shouldersDoes eating people give you dry scalp?

FUNKMAN

02-06-2007, 10:53 AM

riverofpiss wrote: FUNKMAN wrote: it may have been him. especially because of what they found in dahmer's bathroom...head and shouldersDoes eating people give you dry scalp?not sure but you have to admit the guy was pretty flakey go funkman it's your birthday go funkman it's your birthday

sailor

02-06-2007, 11:05 AM

TheMojoPin wrote: riverofpiss wrote: OK. From now on I am going to trust whatever serial necrophiliac murderers say. They never lie. When they've decided to share explicit details about every murder they've seemingly committed, no, it's incredibly rare for them to hold back and "hide" an indvidual murder. You're giving him way too much credit in thinking that he'd try and hide killing Adam Walsh. Admitting to and describing the murders would appeal to his basest desires...the same monstrous desires that led him to kill in the first place. Hiding Adam's murder does nothing for him and actually deprives him of the satsifaction he gets by being able to "re-live" the murders through his confessions. Again, it's highly unlikely that he wouldn't confess to such a murder.Bottom line, the evidence here doesn't amount to much. A horrible scumbag like Dahmer is certainly capable of doing this, but basic psychological and forensic investigation really makes it seem incredibly unlikely. The best argument seems to be "Dahmer killed people...he was in Florida when Adam was killed...he must have done it!" The murder doesn't match up at all with his killing patterns/behavior, and not admitting to the murder doesn't match up at all with his very explicit pattern of behavior and confessions after he was caught. yes, just being in the same state would be a huge jump. i thought someone said dahmer was in the same store the same day walsh disappeared. that's a lot smaller of a leap to make, if true. edit: in the first post sunny said dahmer was spotted at the same mall the day of the abduction.  i don't know the details, so i can't say how reliable this is so many years later. 

This message was edited by sailor on 2-6-07 @ 3:08 PM

Fat_Sunny

02-06-2007, 11:13 AM

sailor wrote:  "yes, just being in the same state would be a huge jump.  i thought someone said dahmer was in the same store the same day walsh disappeared.  that's a lot smaller of a leap to make, if true. Not One But TWO People Have Put Dahmer In That Mall That Day.  Granted, "Eyewitness Reports" Are Always Suspect, But Apparently One Of The Witnesses Was "Cruised" By Dahmer That Day And Claims To Remember It Vividly.If One Or Both Of Those Guys Is Right, And Dahmer Was In The Mall, And If Dahmer Did NOT Kill Adam, Then It Means That Two Decapitating Murderers Were In The Mall That Day, And That, Friends, Is Very, Very Hard To Believe.  It Is Much Easier To Believe That Dahmer Lied When He Said He Did Not It.So It Comes Down To The Veracity Of The Two Guys Who Said They Saw Dahmer At The Mall.

sailor

02-06-2007, 11:18 AM

Fat_Sunny wrote: sailor wrote: "yes, just being in the same state would be a huge jump. i thought someone said dahmer was in the same store the same day walsh disappeared. that's a lot smaller of a leap to make, if true. Not One But TWO People Have Put Dahmer In That Mall That Day. Granted, "Eyewitness Reports" Are Always Suspect, But Apparently One Of The Witnesses Was "Cruised" By Dahmer That Day And Claims To Remember It Vividly.If One Or Both Of Those Guys Is Right, And Dahmer Was In The Mall, And If Dahmer Did NOT Kill Adam, Then It Means That Two Decapitating Murderers Were In The Mall That Day, And That, Friends, Is Very, Very Hard To Believe. It Is Much Easier To Believe That Dahmer Lied When He Said He Did Not It.So It Comes Down To The Veracity Of The Two Guys Who Said They Saw Dahmer At The Mall.  was their convention in town that day?

grlNIN

02-06-2007, 11:19 AM

FUNKMAN wrote: it may have been him. especially because of what they found in dahmer's bathroom...head and shouldersWow.

TheMojoPin

02-06-2007, 11:25 AM

riverofpiss wrote: Sounds like you know alot about this stuff Mojo.  I think I do.  When I took IB-level psych my senior year of high school, the class basically was just each student spending the semester researching a single psych-topic and then submitting a huge paper and presentation at the end.  Stupidly, I picked serial killers thinking it would be the most interesting.  I say "stupidly" because that was some of the most vile, horrifying and flat-out depressing stuff I ever had to read.  A lot of the investigative and analytical discoveries and procedures were interesting, but the subjects themselves are easily the worst on the planet and just so spirit-crushing.I agree with others that it would be bizarre if Dahmer and another violent murder were in the same mall at the same time, but it's not impossible.  And that's a still a lonnnnnnnnnnng way from actually linking him to Walsh's murder.  And it's not like want this guy to be innocent...it would be nice if the Walsh familt finally got some closure.  I would just be really surprised if it was actually Dahmer who killed Adam.

Landblast

02-06-2007, 08:39 PM

PapaBear wrote: There's no way in Hell he did it. There were several things they mentioned on CNN to discredit it. The one that got me the most... He admitted to all of his other killings, but flatly denied he had anything to do with Walsh. Not to mention, Walsh was so much younger than the other victims. from Fat_Sunnys article:lso buried in the Walsh file, Harris found two statements -- witnesses who said they saw Dahmer at the mall the day Adam disappeared. For the first time, both men share their stories on television."I had a sense that someone was staring at me," Willis Morgan said.Morgan said he was shopping when a dirty, disheveled guy in his 20s started hitting on him.Morgan was a buff blond in 1981 -- the Chippendale dancer type Dahmer repeatedly told police was his type."I didn't answer him, and he said, 'Nice day isn't it?' And I still didn't answer him," Willis said. "And then the smile went off his face, and he had this look of anger, and I was just like looking at him, you know. I didn't know what this guy was up to, and then all of a sudden that look went to like rage. It was an unbelievable look. I had to look away," Willis said.<div class="RelatedBox"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="240" class="clkImgTbl" align="right"><tbody><tr><td valign="top"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="8" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td valign="top"><a href="http://www.themilwaukeechannel.com/news/10903529/detail.html#" onclick="popUp('/image/10905650/detail.html','width=500,height=420');"><div class="imgEnlargeBtn" align="right"><img src="http://www.themilwaukeechannel.com/images/structures/buttons/button_enlarge.gif" border="0" width="82" height="15" /></div><img src="http://www.themilwaukeechannel.com/2007/0202/10905650_240X180.jpg" border="0" width="240" height="180" /></a></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></div>Morgan said he followed the man into the Sears store and lost him in the toy department -- the last place Adam was seen alive. Ten years later, Morgan was at his printer job at the Miami Herald proofing the morning paper."When the papers came in, I saw the picture of Dahmer, and I started freaking out. I said, 'This is the guy. This is the guy I saw in the mall,'" Willis said.At about the same time, another man was shocked to see Dahmer's picture in the paper."That Sunday, in 1991, when the picture of Dahmer came out, it hit me like a baseball bat," Bill Bowen said.Bowen said he had just pulled into the Sears parking lot that day in 1981 when he witnessed an explosive scene."There was a man holding a little boy by one arm up in the air. The boy was struggling, and the boy was saying, 'I don't want to go. I'm not going,'" Bowen said.Bowen said the man threw the boy into a blue van and screeched off. Bowen said he only saw the man's profile, but it looked like the newspaper picture he brought police. <address>< If there was one person i would not believe a word they said is a serial killer, and we seem to have these two witnesses. To have TWO witnesses come forward... it should of taken top priority...but too fucking late now! </address>