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reeshy

01-30-2007, 04:17 PM

I've been checking out Microsoft's new OS.....I'm not really convinced I need it that bad....I have windows XP and have no problems with it....does anyone know why I would have to upgrade to Vista.....I know there are some smart people out there that have the answers!!!!

Hottub

01-30-2007, 04:19 PM

reeshy wrote: I've been checking out Microsoft's new OS.....I'm not really convinced I need it that bad....I have windows XP and have no problems with it....does anyone know why I would have to upgrade to Vista.....I know there are some smart people out there that have the answers!!!! Bill Gates needs your $179.

furie

01-30-2007, 04:23 PM

http://www.joyoftech.com/joyoftech/joyimages/915.gif

Hottub

01-30-2007, 04:24 PM

Furie, that was fantastic.

Wallower

01-30-2007, 05:26 PM

I've been running Vista at work for a few months now and it's not bad. Most of the bugs have been worked out, so if you go with it all of your stuff should work. The bottom line though is, you don't need it. It's fun to play with but so is linux. If you're looking for a fun OS to play with I would try <a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/">Ubuntu</a>.

boeman

01-30-2007, 05:35 PM

No reeshy, there's no reason for you to upgrade yet.

Not_Bill_Gates

01-30-2007, 05:51 PM

Don't listen to any of these naysayers.  Vista will revolutionize your computing experience. Also, make sure you buy the premium version.  You know you want to have all of the cool new features!

docgoblin

01-30-2007, 05:53 PM

SP1 is already scheduled for summer.... I would hold off for now. (BTW... Don't listen to the guy above me... It's really Bill Gates... Shhhhh!)

This message was edited by docgoblin on 1-30-07 @ 9:55 PM

Jughead

01-30-2007, 07:18 PM

Reesh..See Anthony..1/30/07....Replay..It will happen anyway....Got a dollar???Juggy

JustJon

01-31-2007, 07:59 AM

Not_Bill_Gates wrote: Don't listen to any of these naysayers.  Vista will revolutionize your computing experience. Also, make sure you buy the premium version.  You know you want to have all of the cool new features!Then shouldn't he buy the Ultimate edition instead?

mendyweiss

01-31-2007, 08:11 AM

Tenbatsuzen

01-31-2007, 08:33 AM

I called Dell because I need a new laptop, but I told them under no circumstances do I want Vista anywhere near the machine.  I had a REALLY bad experience with Windows ME.They told me they can't do that. Now I'm pissed.

JustJon

01-31-2007, 09:19 AM

I thought Dell was planning to offer Linux machines.

Snacks

01-31-2007, 09:52 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: I called Dell because I need a new laptop, but I told them under no circumstances do I want Vista anywhere near the machine.  I had a REALLY bad experience with Windows ME.They told me they can't do that. Now I'm pissed.   Windows ME did Suck I went back to 98 after a week with it, but windows 2000 was really good and XP has been great. If your going to get a new pc eventually you will have to go with Vista. Maybe Vista shouldnt be your problem, it should be Dell. IMO they are poorly built and breakdown way to often. Try Gateway. I have had good experiences with gateway/emachines (same compmay)

HBox

01-31-2007, 10:04 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: I called Dell because I need a new laptop, but I told them under no circumstances do I want Vista anywhere near the machine. I had a REALLY bad experience with Windows ME.They told me they can't do that. Now I'm pissed.   If you are completely dead set against Vista you can buy a retail copy of XP, format the hard drive on the laptop and install XP instead.And there's isn't anybody who didn't have a bad experience with Windows ME.

Doctor Manhattan

01-31-2007, 10:28 AM

HBox wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: I called Dell because I need a new laptop, but I told them under no circumstances do I want Vista anywhere near the machine. I had a REALLY bad experience with Windows ME.They told me they can't do that. Now I'm pissed. If you are completely dead set against Vista you can buy a retail copy of XP, format the hard drive on the laptop and install XP instead. That's paying twice for Windows. Do you work for Bill Gates?

Tenbatsuzen

01-31-2007, 10:32 AM

My mother has the Dell Model that I'm looking into buying.  She has an XP rollback disk - one of those "in case of emergency, break glass" disks.  As long as I set up the rollback on her internet hub, there shouldn't be a problem, right?And Snacks, as for Dell vs. Gateway... I've never had a problem with Dell.  Ever.  You know how Jesus is my Homeboy?  Well, JustJon is my IT Support.

HBox

01-31-2007, 10:41 AM

Doctor Manhattan wrote: HBox wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: I called Dell because I need a new laptop, but I told them under no circumstances do I want Vista anywhere near the machine. I had a REALLY bad experience with Windows ME.They told me they can't do that. Now I'm pissed. If you are completely dead set against Vista you can buy a retail copy of XP, format the hard drive on the laptop and install XP instead. That's paying twice for Windows. Do you work for Bill Gates?That's why I said "If you are completely dead set against Vista". You are not going to be able to get XP from an OEM builder anymore. Maybe if you go to a smaller independent builder you can get a copy of XP.My mother has the Dell Model that I'm looking into buying.  She has an XP rollback disk - one of those "in case of emergency, break glass" disks.  As long as I set up the rollback on her internet hub, there shouldn't be a problem, right?I'm not sure if that will work. That rollback disk has the serial number of the copy of XP on your mother's laptop. You'll run into problems trying to activate it.

Tenbatsuzen

01-31-2007, 10:49 AM

HBox wrote: Doctor Manhattan wrote: HBox wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: I called Dell because I need a new laptop, but I told them under no circumstances do I want Vista anywhere near the machine. I had a REALLY bad experience with Windows ME.They told me they can't do that. Now I'm pissed. If you are completely dead set against Vista you can buy a retail copy of XP, format the hard drive on the laptop and install XP instead. That's paying twice for Windows. Do you work for Bill Gates? That's why I said "If you are completely dead set against Vista". You are not going to be able to get XP from an OEM builder anymore. Maybe if you go to a smaller independent builder you can get a copy of XP.My mother has the Dell Model that I'm looking into buying.  She has an XP rollback disk - one of those "in case of emergency, break glass" disks.  As long as I set up the rollback on her internet hub, there shouldn't be a problem, right? I'm not sure if that will work. That rollback disk has the serial number of the copy of XP on your mother's laptop. You'll run into problems trying to activate it. I thought the registration process was simply comparing the serial number that you input against the IP you're registering from.  Why would the data that's on the drive mean anything?  What if the old drive died and you were setting up a new one?

HBox

01-31-2007, 10:55 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: HBox wrote: Doctor Manhattan wrote: HBox wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: I called Dell because I need a new laptop, but I told them under no circumstances do I want Vista anywhere near the machine. I had a REALLY bad experience with Windows ME.They told me they can't do that. Now I'm pissed. If you are completely dead set against Vista you can buy a retail copy of XP, format the hard drive on the laptop and install XP instead. That's paying twice for Windows. Do you work for Bill Gates? That's why I said "If you are completely dead set against Vista". You are not going to be able to get XP from an OEM builder anymore. Maybe if you go to a smaller independent builder you can get a copy of XP.My mother has the Dell Model that I'm looking into buying. She has an XP rollback disk - one of those "in case of emergency, break glass" disks. As long as I set up the rollback on her internet hub, there shouldn't be a problem, right? I'm not sure if that will work. That rollback disk has the serial number of the copy of XP on your mother's laptop. You'll run into problems trying to activate it. I thought the registration process was simply comparing the serial number that you input against the IP you're registering from. Why would the data that's on the drive mean anything? What if the old drive died and you were setting up a new one? No, XP makes a hardware profile of your computer and sends it to Microsoft. If it is significantly different from the last time it was activated, they won't let you. You could also try to call Microsoft for the activation number. I've reinstalled XP many times and when I've called for the registration number I've had no issues at all. They gave me an activation number easily. But I was using the same computer each time so.......

Doctor Manhattan

01-31-2007, 10:57 AM

HBox wrote: My mother has the Dell Model that I'm looking into buying.  She has an XP rollback disk - one of those "in case of emergency, break glass" disks.  As long as I set up the rollback on her internet hub, there shouldn't be a problem, right? I'm not sure if that will work. That rollback disk has the serial number of the copy of XP on your mother's laptop. You'll run into problems trying to activate it. I've rebuilt dozens of different Dell laptops using the same Green WinXP Dell CD

HBox

01-31-2007, 11:00 AM

OK, then maybe it will work.

Tenbatsuzen

01-31-2007, 11:02 AM

Apparently Dell changes their deals tonight.  I just want a DuoCore with a 15.4 monitor Inspiron. 

Tenbatsuzen

01-31-2007, 11:07 AM

Doctor Manhattan wrote: HBox wrote: My mother has the Dell Model that I'm looking into buying.  She has an XP rollback disk - one of those "in case of emergency, break glass" disks.  As long as I set up the rollback on her internet hub, there shouldn't be a problem, right? I'm not sure if that will work. That rollback disk has the serial number of the copy of XP on your mother's laptop. You'll run into problems trying to activate it. I've rebuilt dozens of different Dell laptops using the same Green WinXP Dell CDGreen?  The one I saw was Purple.

JustJon

01-31-2007, 11:12 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: My mother has the Dell Model that I'm looking into buying.  She has an XP rollback disk - one of those "in case of emergency, break glass" disks.  As long as I set up the rollback on her internet hub, there shouldn't be a problem, right?And Snacks, as for Dell vs. Gateway... I've never had a problem with Dell.  Ever.  You know how Jesus is my Homeboy?  Well, JustJon is my IT Support.  It's the last day of the month.  Expect my bill this week.

Tenbatsuzen

01-31-2007, 11:13 AM

JustJon wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: My mother has the Dell Model that I'm looking into buying.  She has an XP rollback disk - one of those "in case of emergency, break glass" disks.  As long as I set up the rollback on her internet hub, there shouldn't be a problem, right?And Snacks, as for Dell vs. Gateway... I've never had a problem with Dell.  Ever.  You know how Jesus is my Homeboy?  Well, JustJon is my IT Support.  It's the last day of the month.  Expect my bill this week.Five duplos.  I know, I know.

Doctor Manhattan

01-31-2007, 11:16 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Doctor Manhattan wrote: HBox wrote: My mother has the Dell Model that I'm looking into buying.  She has an XP rollback disk - one of those "in case of emergency, break glass" disks.  As long as I set up the rollback on her internet hub, there shouldn't be a problem, right? I'm not sure if that will work. That rollback disk has the serial number of the copy of XP on your mother's laptop. You'll run into problems trying to activate it. I've rebuilt dozens of different Dell laptops using the same Green WinXP Dell CDGreen?  The one I saw was Purple. I've seen them in different colors, I used to have a bunch of Windows XP Pro SP1 disks in purple, some in gray/green color before SP1. They all have "OPERATING SYSTEM" and "ALREADY INSTALLED ON YOUR COMPUTER" in white bands on top.As far as I know they work fine in any Dell PC, but you'll have issues activating the OS on other brand PCs (Someone here tried one on an HP laptop and it didn't work)

Tenbatsuzen

01-31-2007, 11:35 AM

Does anyone want to rebuild my POS compaq from 2000?  The one that fried on me in Arizona?

SatCam

01-31-2007, 03:44 PM

boeman wrote: No reeshy, there's no reason for you to upgrade <strike>yet.</strike>

Fallon

01-31-2007, 07:16 PM

I was playing with a laptop at Circuit City today with Vista, I really liked how it looked.

JustJon

02-01-2007, 09:41 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Does anyone want to rebuild my POS compaq from 2000? The one that fried on me in Arizona?  What do we get out of the deal?

SatCam

02-01-2007, 02:14 PM

<hr color="cococo" align="left">JustJon wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: Does anyone want to rebuild my POS compaq from 2000? The one that fried on me in Arizona? What do we get out of the deal?<hr color="cococo" align="left">

Don't give it to Jon

http://www.chaoticcomputing.com/lego/images/lego.jpg

This message was edited by SatCam on 2-1-07 @ 6:15 PM

Doctor Z

02-01-2007, 02:32 PM

I like Microsoft's really original approach at the new GUI. It looks nothing like Apple's "Aqua" style, introduced 6 years ago!<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT6YO30GhmQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT6YO30GhmQ </a><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-2C2gb6ws8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-2C2gb6ws8 </a>

This message was edited by Doctor_Z on 2-1-07 @ 6:33 PM

Fallon

02-02-2007, 09:34 PM

Well, I went to Circuit City again, just browsing and decided to pick up the Home Premium Edition and so far so good. Less programs are running and hogging memory and Firefox is flying.

Snacks

02-02-2007, 11:43 PM

I bought a really nice new computer with vista, there are some really cool new things, but a lot of stuf they made more difficult then before. For some reason windows media player wouldnt play my avi files. It wouldnt allow me to set yahoo as my default email, kept getting an error meessage. It kept clearing my cookies even though I had the same settings I used on my xp computer. The cool things were the folder options. The icon sizes and the video previews in the folders were cool (only wmv files)Anyway so I called gateway to discuss some of these issues and others. After being on hold for 1 hour I talked to a rep and he had no clue how to fix or how to navigate through vista. He said they were all given a course last week, but it was a lot of bugs still working out. He recomended to return my system until the bugs were worked out, or figure out by playing with the software and wait for microsoft to issue service packs to fix bugs.So after playing with it further and not being able to use everything I wanted I decided to send it back and wait 6 months. It sucks b/c I bought a real nice computer. 17in laptop with intel core dual processor, 1 gb ram dvd burner and more all for $699 (after rebate) The cheapest I have ever found a 17 inch laptop was $999. Anyway good luck to those who bought a vista. Keep us updated with what you like, dislike and bugs.

landarch

02-03-2007, 04:03 AM

HBox wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: I called Dell because I need a new laptop, but I told them under no circumstances do I want Vista anywhere near the machine. I had a REALLY bad experience with Windows ME.They told me they can't do that. Now I'm pissed.   If you are completely dead set against Vista you can buy a retail copy of XP, format the hard drive on the laptop and install XP instead. And there's isn't anybody who didn't have a bad experience with Windows ME. I must be an anomaly then.  I ran my old gateway desktop with Windows ME for over 6 years, and was relatively problem free.  Never crashed and rarely froze up, even with all the kazaa and the like over the years.  Had to give it up for XP because it was finally too old to run even the most basic stuff.

Snacks

02-08-2007, 09:52 PM

this newest mac commercial is one of the many reasons why I hated my new computer with Vista and returned it.<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUFCrys9PYc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUFCrys9PYc</a>Everytime I tried to do something a pop up asking me questions " do you want to allow? " Yes asshole thats why I clicked on it. And if you turned it off you would get a pop up or icon stating you need to protect your computer. Its like an annoying seatbelt alarm/beep but worse.Im so pissed that Vista sucks. I was so looking forward to it. Anthony from oand a made a video about his experience with vista. He was so right, nothing worked with it. All my videos wouldnt play. Sucks.

Fallon

02-08-2007, 10:03 PM

I haven't really had any problems with Vista, I did get the blue screen twice on Sunday, but nothing since.The security asking me if I'd like to continue also bothers me, gotta swear at the computer.

waltermitty

02-08-2007, 10:11 PM

<a href="http://www.foundrymusic.com/opieanthony/displaymedia.cfm/id/13988/page/download_Anthony_Cumia__Installing_Windows_Vista.h tml" title="Anthony and Windows Vista">http://www.foundrymusic.com/opieanthony/displaymedia.cfm/id/13988/page/download_Anthony_Cumia__Installing_Windows_Vista.h tml</a>   Mr. Cumia Knows Whats up....

Snacks

02-09-2007, 11:11 AM

waltermitty wrote: <a href="http://www.foundrymusic.com/opieanthony/displaymedia.cfm/id/13988/page/download_Anthony_Cumia__Installing_Windows_Vista.h tml" title="Anthony and Windows Vista">http://www.foundrymusic.com/opieanthony/displaymedia.cfm/id/13988/page/download_Anthony_Cumia__Installing_Windows_Vista.h tml</a>  Mr. Cumia Knows Whats up.... yes that is the video I was talking about. Thanks

zentraed

02-11-2007, 11:21 PM

Snacks wrote: I bought a really nice new computer with vista, there are some really cool new things, but a lot of stuf they made more difficult then before. For some reason windows media player wouldnt play my avi files. It wouldnt allow me to set yahoo as my default email, kept getting an error meessage. It kept clearing my cookies even though I had the same settings I used on my xp computer. The cool things were the folder options. The icon sizes and the video previews in the folders were cool (only wmv files)I upgraded two notebooks to Vista this weekend, both HPs, and next weekend, I'll probably upgrade a Dell system. I really like the interface. My system fan runs A LOT more than it used to, but I could probably fix that by turning of Aero. As far as your video problems go, Microsoft doesn't ship with support for MPEG-4/DivX/Xvid and most of your avi's are probably in those formats. XviD is not legal, so it doesn't automatically download a codec for it. All you needed to do was download the latest ffdshow. <img src="http://www.zentraed.com/ronfez/vista_ffdshow.png" border="0" width="692" height="516" />

Tenbatsuzen

03-27-2007, 05:02 PM

Bump -

Doc Manhattan, what exactly did you do on the rebuild - just format the drive and install fresh?

patsopinion

06-14-2007, 11:51 PM

i just looked at vista for the first time(i was in denial that microsoft still existed)
and they totally ripped of apples os
that shit is exactly the same
wtf?

StupidGirlllll

06-15-2007, 12:45 AM

My new computer came with Vista, i asked for XP, but Dell said that I should not have any problems since Vista already came installed on the computer. And as for DEll they really do suck ass...I mean as far as the CST Service aspect of it.. I had to wait 2 weeks for my monitor & they never told me I had to buy a $25 cord to go with my $50. printer they bumbuzled me into buying.

patsopinion

06-15-2007, 01:06 AM

My new computer came with Vista, i asked for XP, but Dell said that I should not have any problems since Vista already came installed on the computer. And as for DEll they really do suck ass...I mean as far as the CST Service aspect of it.. I had to wait 2 weeks for my monitor & they never told me I had to buy a $25 cord to go with my $50. printer they bumbuzled me into buying.

throw the printer away
the cartridges for that thing cost more than the printer
and there is an mini evil ninja that hides inside

Midkiff

08-02-2007, 07:42 PM

I just tried to install Vista Ultimate. The little analyzer thingy said my computer should have no problem. The installation starts up, then asks for my product key. I enter it, then the little pointer turns to an hourglass, and it stays that way forever. It will never proceed beyond that point. Anybody else have this problem?

zentraed

08-02-2007, 08:07 PM

I just tried to install Vista Ultimate. The little analyzer thingy said my computer should have no problem. The installation starts up, then asks for my product key. I enter it, then the little pointer turns to an hourglass, and it stays that way forever. It will never proceed beyond that point. Anybody else have this problem?

don't bother putting in the product key until after you finish the install. you have at least 30 days to do it

Midkiff

08-02-2007, 08:23 PM

don't bother putting in the product key until after you finish the install. you have at least 30 days to do it

OK. I just tried that, and it takes me to the next step, where you have to pick which version you purchased. I do that, click Next, and then it stops responding again.

Tenbatsuzen

08-02-2007, 08:35 PM

With ALL the problems Vista has been widely reported having, why did you even bother?

Midkiff

08-02-2007, 08:39 PM

With ALL the problems Vista has been widely reported having, why did you even bother?

Because I got it at my university for only $29 through their deal with Microsoft. For that kind of savings, I'll keep it around even if I can't use it until my next computer.

zentraed

08-02-2007, 08:43 PM

OK. I just tried that, and it takes me to the next step, where you have to pick which version you purchased. I do that, click Next, and then it stops responding again.

are you performing an upgrade, or a fresh install? i've only had two problem-free installs, so i don't have too many ideas on this one. what kind of pc do you have?

Midkiff

08-02-2007, 08:56 PM

are you performing an upgrade, or a fresh install? i've only had two problem-free installs, so i don't have too many ideas on this one. what kind of pc do you have?

I have XP, but I am doing a clean install. I have a very new emachines, into which I manually upgraded the memory and video car/3d accelerator.

Windows says it is probably a hardware problem, and the only thing the advisor says is that there is a possibility of an issue with my video card due to unknown compatibility.

That would be kind of gay.

zentraed

08-02-2007, 09:08 PM

I have XP, but I am doing a clean install. I have a very new emachines, into which I manually upgraded the memory and video car/3d accelerator.

Windows says it is probably a hardware problem, and the only thing the advisor says is that there is a possibility of an issue with my video card due to unknown compatibility.

That would be kind of gay.

what kind of vid card? could you install it with the old graphics, and then upgrade the video?

Midkiff

08-03-2007, 04:49 AM

what kind of vid card? could you install it with the old graphics, and then upgrade the video?

Its an ATI/Radeon card. I suppose I could try to disable it and the install.

Maybe I should try this on my laptop first instead.