OFFICIAL New York Yankees 2007 Season Thread

[TheGameHHH]

Do we give them credit if they win?

you should...........why wouldnt you

wang pitched this game and only let up 3 runs in homer friendly Fenway, torre didnt go to the bullpen after 70 pitches. i say they both deserve some credit

[TheGameHHH]

Everybody gets hugs and kisses and a big basket of teddy bears and kittens if they win. If they lose, no kittens.

this is an excellent suggestion

[HBox]

Please God. Let them send out Farnsworth to start out the inning. PLEASE. PLEASE. PLEASE.

[TheGameHHH]

that was only something like his 3rd 1-2-3 inning in his past 48 appearences.

[HBox]

that was only something like his 3rd 1-2-3 inning in his past 48 appearences.

I just wanted him to come in and bean somebody with a 100MPH fastball.

[HBox]

yeah!!!!!!!

[Kevin]

yeah!!!!!!!

THAT'S WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!

[Kevin]

SHUT UP KAY.. I am sick of this team being pussies.

[TheGameHHH]

hey seriously guys........michael kay just made a good point

im fine with him throwing at that little homo Youkilis there, but dont throw at his fucking head. if youre gonna bean him then be a man about it and peg him in the back. dont be a fucking coward and go at his head, thats just low class.

[Fallon]

What a pussy. You don't go up high like that.

[TheGameHHH]

SHUT UP KAY.. I am sick of this team being pussies.

its not about being a pussy, its about playing with somebodys life. if somebody threw like that at Jeter youd be the first one to raise a fuss. im not sure if youve ever had a 98 mph fastball go at your head, but its not something to take lightly

[Kevin]

hey seriously guys........michael kay just made a good point

im fine with him throwing at that little homo Youkilis there, but dont throw at his fucking head. if youre gonna bean him then be a man about it and peg him in the back. dont be a fucking coward and go at his head, thats just low class.

Yea.. i seriously didnt like the head thing.. Hit him in the ribs or back..

[Bulldogcakes]

you should...........why wouldnt you

wang pitched this game and only let up 3 runs in homer friendly Fenway, torre didnt go to the bullpen after 70 pitches. i say they both deserve some credit

You missed my point. If Torre and Wang get the credit for wins (and they do) then they get blame when they lose. Goes both ways.

[TheGameHHH]

You missed my point. If Torre and Wang get the credit for wins (and they do) then they get blame when they lose. Goes both ways.

ur right, i did miss your point......my bad

[Tenbatsuzen]

And for HBox's 10000 post...

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/8866/26677segalmtvmovie00112ph1.jpg

[Bulldogcakes]

Yea.. i seriously didnt like the head thing.. Hit him in the ribs or back..

Yeah, as much as the Bosox have about 50 HBP's coming to them before it ever gets close to being even, keep it below the neck.

Looks like Proctor's the enforcer on this team, and I bet he gets another week off for that. One way to get Torre to give you a day off.

I hope Villone has something tonight.

[TheGameHHH]

hahahaha, Donnie baseball going to Mo in the middle of an at-bat

[HBox]

The Red Sox started this. Every fucking game for years they pitch inside and hit Yankee batters OVER AND OVER AGAIN. They employed Pedro Martinez for fucks sake. He would do that as a matter of fact. And the city of Boston worshipped him. So I don't want to hear one fucking thing from them or their fans. They started this game a dn they kept it up for years. They sent Jeter and Soriano to the hospital in the course of ONE FUCKING INNING one time. Give me a FUCKING BREAK.

[TheGameHHH]

The Red Sox started this. Every fucking game for years they pitch inside and hit Yankee batters OVER AND OVER AGAIN. They employed Pedro Martinez for fucks sake. He would do that as a matter of fact. And the city of Boston worshipped him. So I don't want to hear one fucking thing from them or their fans. They started this game a dn they kept it up for years. They sent Jeter and Soriano to the hospital in the course of ONE FUCKING INNING one time. Give me a FUCKING BREAK.

dude, just because they do it doesnt make it right or make it fair that the yanks retaliate. throwing 90+ mph at somebodys head is just low class, plain and simple no matter who does it.

[HBox]

dude, just because they do it doesnt make it right or make it fair that the yanks retaliate. throwing 90+ mph at somebodys head is just low class, plain and simple no matter who does it.

I just don't want to hear anything from the Sox. Not from the city that worshipped Pedro and Clemens.

[TheGameHHH]

baseball is baseball and people are going to get hit and teams are going to hit an opposing batter back, but throwing at the head is uncalled for. its not the yankee class that i know and love.

[TheGameHHH]

however, at the end of the day all that i care about is the fact that we won the opening game and put ourselves in good position to win a series.

[HBox]

baseball is baseball and people are going to get hit and teams are going to hit an opposing batter back, but throwing at the head is uncalled for. its not the yankee class that i know and love.

True. I'll put it this way though: I don't like robbery. I feel bad for the victims. I don't like the robbers. And I don't particularly care when robbers get robbed.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I just don't want to hear anything from the Sox. Not from the city that worshipped Pedro and Clemens.


And insert youtube video of Connery's speech from the Untouchables... here.

[Bulldogcakes]

I take back what I said about Proctor. That was clearly unintentional on his part

Watch it again (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=270601102)

The second that pitch leaves his hand, he arches his shoulders as if to say "Oh no" and then shakes his head. Also, its a 2-2 count, there's 1 out in the 9th, that's not a spot to do it. You do it with 2 outs, so as to not start a rally and usually when you're behind in the count. Then it makes sense.

[Bulldogcakes]

Story (http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070601&content_id=1998613&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy)

"You certainly don't want to deal without Jason, but he was in and out, and when he was in, he was hurting," Torre said. "This may be a blessing in disguise. We know who we have and we know what we're going to do."

Apparently Torre agrees with me about Giambi. That's my take exactly.

[A.J.]

I just don't want to hear anything from the Sox. Not from the city that worshipped Pedro and Clemens.


Clemens. The guy that made Suzyn Waldman cum when she announced that he was coming back to the Yankees....AGAIN?

[HBox]

"You certainly don't want to deal without Jason, but he was in and out, and when he was in, he was hurting," Torre said. "This may be a blessing in disguise. We know who we have and we know what we're going to do."

I bolded a different part and now he agrees with me.

But seriously wasn't your problem with him that he couldn't play the field so he shortened the bench and he clogs the bases? Because that's not what Torre is saying. He's saying that at least now they aren't dealing with a player that they don't know whether he will be able to play on any particular day and when he did play he was inconsistent. I assume they are looking forward to the possibility that he will return fully healed.

[lleeder]

I take back what I said about Proctor. That was clearly unintentional on his part

Watch it again (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=270601102)

The second that pitch leaves his hand, he arches his shoulders as if to say "Oh no" and then shakes his head. Also, its a 2-2 count, there's 1 out in the 9th, that's not a spot to do it. You do it with 2 outs, so as to not start a rally and usually when you're behind in the count. Then it makes sense.

I watched that pitch several times and think it was a mistake. The pitch kinda rose up with crazy speed. I dont think the way he released the ball he thought it was going to do that. That being said noone was hurt and it sent a message. I'm tired of outrage for the Yankees no matter what they do. If they dont hit guys then they're pussies, if they do they did it the wrong way. Pedro hit Jeter and Soriano back to back sending them to the hospital and the Red Sox fans loved it. So don't be surprised if Yankee fans smirk when Youkalis gets dirt on his beard.

[Bulldogcakes]

THE

MELK


MAN



DELIVERS!!!!!

[cougarjake13]

THE

MELK


MAN



DELIVERS!!!!!

well its only saturday so i would expect him to

[Bulldogcakes]

I bolded a different part and now he agrees with me.

But seriously wasn't your problem with him that he couldn't play the field so he shortened the bench and he clogs the bases? Because that's not what Torre is saying. He's saying that at least now they aren't dealing with a player that they don't know whether he will be able to play on any particular day and when he did play he was inconsistent. I assume they are looking forward to the possibility that he will return fully healed.

Sort of. The fact he cant play the field bothers me since it caused them to use 3 roster spots for 1B which is dumb. The fact that he was playing but not hitting meant he was overall a drag on the club. The only thing he contributes when he's not hitting are walks, and he cant run the bases well. When he's on 2nd he's actually not in scoring position, unless someone hits a double or triple. So if you want to argue OBP that assumes that you're putting men in scoring position, but in his case its doesn't work as often (unless he's on 3rd). So right there all the #'s start to break down.

To illustrate this, compare 2 extremes. Look at how often Jose Reyes scores with a similar OBP, and then look how many runs scored Giambi has.

Giambi this year AVG .262 | HR 7 | RBI 23 | OBP .380 | SLG .436 Runs scored 19

Reyes this year AVG .316 | HR 2 | RBI 26 | OBP .396 | SLG .476 Runs scored 42

If he's not driving in runs, he makes the lineup less efficient. I think the overall lineup will function more smoothly with Damon at DH and switch hitting Melky in center. Both guys can run, both should have good OBP, and it takes the lineup back to the walks/singles/doubles with the occasional HR type of attack as opposed to the "Wait for the 3-run dinger" groups we've seen the past few years. Back to more of the NL style that Torre used in the late 90's with great success. Look at some of those lineups. Guys like Chad Curtis, Ricky Ledee, Scott Brocius etc were regulars on those teams and they had more success than the All-Star teams we've seen lately. You don't need an All Star at every position, and even though you cant argue against the #s somehow it just doesn't seem to add up. I also expect Giambi to return, but if he's not healthy were back to square 1. And his playing time will have more to do with his 20+ mil paycheck than Baseball.

BTW-I just heard Tim McCarver agree with me as well. Its a landslide, I tell you! A LANDSLIDE!!

BTW-Young players need to play every day (if possible) and I think were already seeing Melky return to form by getting out there every day and getting into a groove at the plate.

[lleeder]

Isn't it time to stop argueing about Giambi? The guys on the DL and won't be around for a month to the rest of the year. Aren't there more pressing issues?

[cougarjake13]

Isn't it time to stop argueing about Giambi? The guys on the DL and won't be around for a month to the rest of the year. Aren't there more pressing issues?

its a created distraction so no one asks a rod any questions about his blonde bimbo

[lleeder]

its a created distraction so no one asks a rod any questions about his blonde bimbo

Or the Mets about their juice filled minor league program.

[lleeder]

Can the Fox announcers just admit that they hate the Yankees? Anything the Red Sox do is great anything the Yankees do is wrong.

[lleeder]

So much for the reinforcements
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070602&content_id=2000937&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy

[BoondockSaint]

So much for the reinforcements
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070602&content_id=2000937&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy


Oh my goodness gracious.

[HBox]

To illustrate this, compare 2 extremes. Look at how often Jose Reyes scores with a similar OBP, and then look how many runs scored Giambi has.

Giambi this year AVG .262 | HR 7 | RBI 23 | OBP .380 | SLG .436 Runs scored 19

Reyes this year AVG .316 | HR 2 | RBI 26 | OBP .396 | SLG .476 Runs scored 42

You can't make that comparison. Reyes is a leadoff hitter. He has the best hitters in the lineup behind him. Giambi has been floating around the 5 spot and below. He has the worst hitters in the lineup behind and for most of the season they have been absolutely horrid. And Reyes is the fastest guy in the league. He can create runs just by getting to first by stealing. That's a club reserved for him and Carl Crawford. That's it. You aren't going to get a fast first baseman and you aren't going to get a fast slugger either.

And you are exaggerating Giambi's speed. He's still going to score from second on lots of singles. He's not going to score on hard hit line drives and plays where the outfield is playing in.

And I hate when people bring up the Chad Curtis's and Ricky Ledee's of the world. They were barely contributers to those World Series Champions. They might not have had a lineup stacked with All-Stars but they had a Starting rotation annually stacked with All-Stars and a great bullpen. I don't see that coming back anytime soon so the capacity for this lineup to carry scrubs is limited.

BTW, I wouldn't be bragging that Tim McCarver agrees with you.

[HBox]

So much for the reinforcements
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070602&content_id=2000937&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy

Who would have thought that a 44 year old would have those problems?

BTW, What the hell is a "fatigued groin?"

[HBox]

m V P

[Bulldogcakes]

HIP

HIP

[lleeder]

Jorge !!!

[weekapaugjz]

BTW, What the hell is a "fatigued groin?"


ask ESD.

[TheGameHHH]

ask ESD.

they said fatigued groin, not fever sores on cock

[HBox]

Dammit. The one time Torre's short hook would have helped and he doesn't do it. Fuck.

[lleeder]

Good to see Mussina still knows how to let everyone down.

[TheGameHHH]

at least it wasnt 4 homers in a row this time

[johnniewalker]

they said fatigued groin, not fever sores on cock

Fever sores not herpes. It can't be herpes.

[Dudeman]

Good to see Mussina still knows how to let everyone down.

i just wanted to have this post repeated. and post ERA-6.25.

[Bulldogcakes]

Fucking Pussy! Throw Your Damn Pitch Wherever You Need To!!!

NOW HE'S ALL FUCKED UP!

And of course, nobody is warming up.

[Crippler]

All started by our good friend Bobby's stellar play in the outfield (http://media.putfile.com/Joe-Conklin---Thats-Abreu).

[Doctor Z]

It's really good to see that Lowell came out today with the intention of fatally injuring someone. Why didn't he just bring his hockey gear to the ballpark.

Also, how many walks/runs does Proctor need to give up before Torre pulls him? This is a repeat of that game against the Angels.

[HBox]

How long is he going to leave Proctor in there?!

[Bulldogcakes]

They deserve to lose this game. First Abreau, then Jeter, now A-Rod. What a bunch of hacks.

[TheGameHHH]

It's really good to see that Lowell came out today with the intention of fatally injuring someone. Why didn't he just bring his hockey gear to the ballpark.

Also, how many walks/runs does Proctor need to give up before Torre pulls him? This is a repeat of that game against the Angels.

where was there any intent on Lowell's part?

[Billy_Mays]

This inning basically sums up the 2007 Yankees season.

[TheGameHHH]

this team is so bad, its sadly comical.......fundamental baseball 101 and a 200 million dollar payroll cant buy it. where the fuck was a-rod on that awful bloop single? the 1B is the cutoff man there

[Doctor Z]

Let's try and understand why Joe Torre should be fired...
The Yankees entered the bottom of the 7th with a 6-5 lead. Granted Ortiz was out TWICE before successfully reaching base (because he struck out looking, but it wasn't called, and then Abreu didn't catch a very playable fly ball). But then it isn't until 5 batters, 3 walks, and 3 runs later that Torre pulls him! Torre's job is to make the moves that keep the Yankees in the game! But it's not until AFTER the game gets away that he pulls the pitcher. Proctor should have been gone the second he was done intentionally walking Manny. So much for a game that we led 5-3 and 6-5. Fucking awful.


*EDIT:
Proctor should have been gone the second he was done intentionally walking Manny
In fact, no. I take that back. Proctor pitched the entire 6th. Why the fuck was he even STARTING the 7th? We know damn well he's no good for more than one inning.

[Doctor Z]

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[Kevin]

In fairness.. I know be grudgingly have to say...







YANKEESSUCKA!!!

[Fallon]

Can the Fox announcers just admit that they hate the Yankees? Anything the Red Sox do is great anything the Yankees do is wrong.

Wow, me and my Red Sox fans feel the opposite. We think they are pro-Yanks.

[Doctor Z]

Well, now it's official: God hates the Yankees.

Mientkiewicz got FUCKED up. Turns out he's got a concussion, a cervical sprain, and a fracture in his left wrist.
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070602&content_id=2001208&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy
15-Day DL, probably more.

I wish today's game had just ended after the 6th. Things were looking so good. Melky and Abreu finally started hitting the ball really well. Posada continued to be an offensive force. The Yankees weren't giving in... Moose was sucking, but our offense kept on pushing ahead. He would lose leads for us, but then we'd show some fight and take it back... and then disaster struck in the 7th. I've never seen such a complete 180 in momentum.

[Bulldogcakes]

Well, now it's official: God hates the Yankees.

Mientkiewicz got FUCKED up. Turns out he's got a concussion, a cervical sprain, and a fracture in his left wrist.
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070602&content_id=2001208&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy
15-Day DL, probably more.

A cervical sprain is more commonly known as "whiplash". I had that from a car accident, it usually lasts a few days, may get some tingling or numbness that lasts longer. If it's severe, it limit his range of motion with his neck for a pretty long time, like months. The concussion and whiplash will probably be OK in 15 days in most cases. The fractured wrist sounds more serious, and from what I've been able to read could be mean anything from a few weeks rest to surgery.

I've never seen a team get this many injuries in my life.

[cougarjake13]

Who would have thought that a 44 year old would have those problems?

BTW, What the hell is a "fatigued groin?"


he's been fucking andy too much since he returned to the spankees

sorry had to do it , if it wasnt me it would have been spoon or boonie

[cougarjake13]

All started by our good friend Bobby's stellar play in the outfield (http://media.putfile.com/Joe-Conklin---Thats-Abreu).

did you hear the annoncer say there were talks of an abreu for jermaine dye swap with the chi sox ???

that'd be great for the yankees but why would the chi sox want to pull the trigger on that deal ??? guess thats why its just a rumor

[spoon]

No, but what Phillips did was worse and we heard nary a peep from you. And the Yanks didn't spend an hour crying to reporters afterward.

Nobody complains when outfielders pretend they lost the ball in the light or act as if they will catch a ball that they have no chance on to fool runners. Because players are smart enough not to fall for such foolishness. Most of them, anyway. Now if you will excuse me I'm going to play 52 pickup with a certain Toronto third baseman.

You couldn't be more off the point. First off, the collision with Phillips was trivial at best and didn't effect the play in the least. Phelps was trying to stay with the ball and came somewhat over the bag which put in more in the path of Phillips. Now it's clear Phillips gave a little more of a body check then needed, but he wasn't in the way of Phelps trying to catch another errant yank throw, it was Phelps in the basebath of a big man trying to leg out a hit. Sooo fucking different and at least it wasn't an Arod elbow on a play that was more then over.

Also, if you really think baseball should be played like a fucking idiotic gimmick from a movie (an awful one at that) then I had more respect for you then I should have. And I surely had too much for Arod. How many bullshit tactics will this cunt use? It's not just about "winning" like some here stated, it's about winning right and with class. Too bad 75% of the yanks interviewed about it agree with me, including Torre.

[spoon]

Every player in every game is looking for some kind of advantage. Outfielders try to fool runners with fake catches, second basemen deke runners into sliding when there is no throw coming, it' s all part of the game. Did what A-Rod do break a rule in the "Great MLB Unwritten Rule Book", who knows. Was it bush league, sure, but if it wasn't A-Rod who did it, nobody would be talking about it. How about when all the players on the bench clear out of the way when an opposing catcher falls in while trying to catch a foul? So it's less of a sin to let someone crack their head open than shouting at a fielder trying to break his concentration? Even being a Yankee fan, I'm not blind to the fact that some of the stuff that A-Rod does rubs some people, including myself, the wrong way, but when your team is mired in a 5 game losing streak, tell me you don't want any advantage that you can get. I would be more pissed that a ballplayer on my team would allow himself to be shaken by something like that. After all, if it's a "bush league" play, than a "professional" should never fall for it.

First off, most teams don't clear out when a catcher is making a play near their dugout. Some do, but it's hardly the same issue. Funny enough you bring up the point not stressed on plays where one calls off another on fly balls, injuries. We've seen plenty this year and if the rookie 3rd baseman didn't respect the call off, he wouldn't be in the majors that long. In fact, it was the first batter (MLB) ever for the pitcher on the mound when it happened, and the first game in the majors for the Jays for the 3rd baseman. I wish Glaus was on third and he made that move. He would have got another smashed face Varitek style. He's a dirtbag on and off the field. I used to wonder why he never seems to be liked with all his ability, but over the last few years is clear.

[spoon]

Yeah, I guess the act of "hindering" is a judgement call. To be honest, we never really covered yelling as a distraction in class. I guess that my point is that all of the rules cover the physical aspects of the game, and not any mental distractions. If I put myself in the umpires shoes for this call I would do exactly what he did, nothing. Because, if you think about it, if you outlaw what A-Rod did, then you have to outlaw players screaming things from the bench (which you know that they must do with foul balls near their dugout). I just feel that a player is responsible for the mental aspect of his own game

Yet they make pitchers remove articles of clothing, cover tattoos and remove jewerly if it is deemed "distracting" so I don't think moves like this are simpy never made.

[Dudeman]

how many innings will proctor pitch tonight?

[spoon]

Is that just this year? That stat might be reflective of their schedule since he snapped out of his slump, which was recently.

If not, might explain his #s in clutch situations.

Yah, it's this year you tart! Do you even follow your team. Do some math and figure it out. It's impossible!

[spoon]

Is that just this year? That stat might be reflective of their schedule since he snapped out of his slump, which was recently.

If not, might explain his #s in clutch situations.

G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG
2007 52 201 23 53 15 2 3 25 81 8 38 1 4 .299 .403 .264

[spoon]

hey seriously guys........michael kay just made a good point

im fine with him throwing at that little homo Youkilis there, but dont throw at his fucking head. if youre gonna bean him then be a man about it and peg him in the back. dont be a fucking coward and go at his head, thats just low class.

Respect!

http://www.cx65.de/fileadmin/cx65/wallpapers/misc/Ali-G-Respect.gif

[spoon]

dude, just because they do it doesnt make it right or make it fair that the yanks retaliate. throwing 90+ mph at somebodys head is just low class, plain and simple no matter who does it.

And there is a HUGE difference between throwing inside and head hunting. It's the yankee's and torre's fault for not coming inside on papi and the rest of the sox team, no one elses.

[spoon]

Or the Mets about their juice filled minor league program.

Better then it being in the majors (Clemens, Giambi, Shef, ............)!

And Giambi is probably out longer bc he should get suspended for testing positive to amphets once more. He's another class act yankee. He plays the role of the honest doper and then gets caught again after he swears MLB was the one who let it happen and he's on the up and up again. I bet HGH worked well for him last summer when he got hot, but now it looks like he's in breakdown mode! Let's see if he get Lyle Disease too?

[spoon]

A cervical sprain is more commonly known as "whiplash". I had that from a car accident, it usually lasts a few days, may get some tingling or numbness that lasts longer. If it's severe, it limit his range of motion with his neck for a pretty long time, like months. The concussion and whiplash will probably be OK in 15 days in most cases. The fractured wrist sounds more serious, and from what I've been able to read could be mean anything from a few weeks rest to surgery.

I've never seen a team get this many injuries in my life.

No, what is really means is that the yanks will soon be adding 9 million more to the payroll in the form of Mark Teixeira. The farm system at work again soon. How do they always seem to find their way back into the playoffs? It's amazing. God I hope I'm wrong.

Oh and the Jays alone have more injuries, especially in terms of days on the DL, compared to the yanks.

Zaun, Halladay, Chacin, Ryan, League, Thompson, Glaus, Johnson and many many more.

[lleeder]

Better then it being in the majors (Clemens, Giambi, Shef, ............)!

And Giambi is probably out longer bc he should get suspended for testing positive to amphets once more. He's another class act yankee. He plays the role of the honest doper and then gets caught again after he swears MLB was the one who let it happen and he's on the up and up again. I bet HGH worked well for him last summer when he got hot, but now it looks like he's in breakdown mode! Let's see if he get Lyle Disease too?

Yankees never had a guy test positive. You can hypothesize all you want but Mota served 50 games for steroids. No Yankee has served a suspension yet. I can sit here and say BJ Ryan broke down once he got off the juice and be just as right as you.

[HBox]

No, what is really means is that the yanks will soon be adding 9 million more to the payroll in the form of Mark Teixeira. The farm system at work again soon. How do they always seem to find their way back into the playoffs? It's amazing. God I hope I'm wrong.

Give me a fucking break. Troy Glaus? BJ Ryan? AJ Burnett? Frank Thomas? Lyle Overbay? You're team's been playing the same game.

Or does it piss you off that the Yanks are actually being smart about this, possibly going after a young guy instead of the typical overpaid veteran? There are plenty of teams who could go after him if they want.

[spoon]

Give me a fucking break. Troy Glaus? BJ Ryan? AJ Burnett? Frank Thomas? Lyle Overbay? You're team's been playing the same game.

Or does it piss you off that the Yanks are actually being smart about this, possibly going after a young guy instead of the typical overpaid veteran? There are plenty of teams who could go after him if they want.

Give ME a fucking break!

Glaus (trade)
Overbay (trade)
Thomas (stupid move and it didn't even out losing Lilly, Spier, Cat and more in that year alone)
Ryan and AJ (also don't equal or even come close to the losses we've had to free agency over the last few years. So suck my ball boxy. There's a difference in signing a few free agents between seasons (while losing others based on judgement calls), and keeping any player you like, signing all the needs with free agency (terribly), signing as many high potential international players to high salaries as possible, covering mistake after mistake mid-year with moves no other team can make and of course covering up steroid use with Giambi, Lleeder and the long island 5.

[HBox]

Give ME a fucking break!

Glaus (trade)
Overbay (trade)
Thomas (stupid move and it didn't even out losing Lilly, Spier, Cat and more in that year alone)
Ryan and AJ (also don't equal or even come close to the losses we've had to free agency over the last few years. So suck my ball boxy. There's a difference in signing a few free agents between seasons (while losing others based on judgement calls), and keeping any player you like, signing all the needs with free agency (terribly), signing as many high potential international players to high salaries as possible, covering mistake after mistake mid-year with moves no other team can make and of course covering up steroid use with Giambi, Lleeder and the long island 5.

If trades don't count then what do you have against the Yankees possibly trading for Teixeira?

[lleeder]

Give ME a fucking break!

Glaus (trade)
Overbay (trade)
Thomas (stupid move and it didn't even out losing Lilly, Spier, Cat and more in that year alone)
Ryan and AJ (also don't equal or even come close to the losses we've had to free agency over the last few years. So suck my ball boxy. There's a difference in signing a few free agents between seasons (while losing others based on judgement calls), and keeping any player you like, signing all the needs with free agency (terribly), signing as many high potential international players to high salaries as possible, covering mistake after mistake mid-year with moves no other team can make and of course covering up steroid use with Giambi, Lleeder and the long island 5.

You should be happy the Yankees make bad money moves. If they made all the right moves then you'd be even more pissed. You've said countless times that they are doing the wrong thing. If its not working you should be happy they continue to do it. Not so sour.

[cougarjake13]

Yankees never had a guy test positive. You can hypothesize all you want but Mota served 50 games for steroids. No Yankee has served a suspension yet. I can sit here and say BJ Ryan broke down once he got off the juice and be just as right as you.

you are incorrect sir

i present you with matt lawton of the yankees in 2005



[edit] Major league players
Player Team Date announced Penalty Position Reference
Alex Sánchez Tampa Bay Devil Rays April 3, 2005 Ten days OF [2]
Jorge Piedra Colorado Rockies April 11, 2005 Ten days OF [3]
Agustín Montero Texas Rangers April 20, 2005 Ten days P [4]
Jamal Strong Seattle Mariners April 26, 2005 Ten days OF [5]
Juan Rincón Minnesota Twins May 2, 2005 Ten days P [6]
Rafael Betancourt Cleveland Indians July 8, 2005 Ten days P [7]
Rafael Palmeiro Baltimore Orioles August 1, 2005 Ten days 1B/DH [8]
Ryan Franklin Seattle Mariners August 2, 2005 Ten days P [9]
Mike Morse Seattle Mariners September 7, 2005 Ten days SS [10]
Carlos Almanzar Texas Rangers October 4, 2005 Ten days P [11]
Félix Heredia New York Mets October 18, 2005 Ten days P [12]
Matt Lawton New York Yankees November 2, 2005 Ten days OF [13]
Yusaku Iriki New York Mets April 28, 2006 Fifty games P [14]
Jason Grimsley Arizona Diamondbacks June 12, 2006 Fifty games P [15]
Guillermo Mota New York Mets November 1, 2006 Fifty games P [16]
Juan Salas Tampa Bay Devil Rays May 7, 2007 Fifty games P [17]

[lleeder]

He was barely a Yankee. I think he was cut right before that happened. The Yankees pulled him off like the Royals for 2 weeks when they had musical chairs in right field. You are technically right. The Yankees didn't resign him to a two year deal after his suspension however.

[TheGameHHH]

rubber game, i feel like the yanks are gonna get smoked tonight. beckett just looks unstoppable this year.

[Bulldogcakes]

No, what is really means is that the yanks will soon be adding 9 million more to the payroll in the form of Mark Teixeira. The farm system at work again soon. How do they always seem to find their way back into the playoffs? It's amazing. God I hope I'm wrong.

Oh and the Jays alone have more injuries, especially in terms of days on the DL, compared to the yanks.

Zaun, Halladay, Chacin, Ryan, League, Thompson, Glaus, Johnson and many many more.

Really?

2007 Yankees Injuries April-June
Wang-15 day DL Hamstring pull
Mussina-15 day DL Hamstring pull
Hideki Matsui-15 day DL Hamstring pull
Phillip Hughes-Out till August Ankle sprain
Darrel Rasner-Out till August Broken finger
Jeff Karstens-2x once on 15 day DL Sore elbow, returned and then 60 day DL with different injury (Fractured Knee)
Humberto Sanchez-Out for season Tommy John surgery
Jose Veras-60 day DL-Elbow surgery
Carl Pavano-Out forever
Doug Mientkiewicz-Out 6-8 weeks Fractured Wrist
Jason Giambi-Out at least 3 weeks with Torn foot ligament, likely more

and Johnny Damon has been playing hurt all year.


You sure about that?

[Bulldogcakes]

rubber game, i feel like the yanks are gonna get smoked tonight. beckett just looks unstoppable this year.

The Yanks have always hit him well since he's been with Boston. Plus, I like the new lineup and the fact that Melky, Abreau and Cano are all hitting the ball well lately.

As much as I'll miss Meinkevitcz glove, I forgot all about Andy Phillips in AAA. He's been hitting well down there, and showed a good glove as the backup 1B last year. Even if he doesn't hit much it's a wash anyway with Doug M's bat. I think the Yanks will be able to get by with him for a while, assuming the rest of the team is hitting well.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I never properly understood my hatred for Joe Morgan until the ESPN crew started running their mouthes about the A-Rod situation. If anything, they should be talking about the "mine" play than the fact that he may or may not be cheating.

[foodcourtdruide]

If Damon plays 1B, the Yankees are in trouble. I'm not sure how good he's going to be defensively at 1B (this could be a complete disaster), but I'd be shocked if he's as good as Mienkiewicz.

Besides defensively, you would be completely wasting a power position, though playing Mienkiewicz there wasn't much better. Damon is a good hitter for a CF, but he'd be a mediocare hitting 1B.

[foodcourtdruide]

Well, now it's official: God hates the Yankees.

This is the craziest statement I've ever heard.

[Bulldogcakes]

Fuck.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Besides defensively, you would be completely wasting a power position, though playing Mienkiewicz there wasn't much better. Damon is a good hitter for a CF, but he'd be a mediocare hitting 1B.

This statement makes no sense. Who else are you going to put in there? To paraphrase Rick Pitino, "Tino Martinez is not walking through that door. Don Mattingly is not walking through that door."

[Sarge]

is anyone surpried by this?

[Billy_Mays]

Abreu = Not good

[Bossanova]

WOW, Abreu is GARBAGE

[Fallon]

WOW, Abreu is GARBAGE

We should have some sort of skills competition, Abreu vs. Pena.

[Bossanova]

We should have some sort of skills competition, Abreu vs. Pena.

HAHAHA, nice

[foodcourtdruide]

This statement makes no sense. Who else are you going to put in there? To paraphrase Rick Pitino, "Tino Martinez is not walking through that door. Don Mattingly is not walking through that door."

What makes no sense? Johnny Damon is not a power hitter. I don't know who else to put there, my point was that the Yankees are in trouble if Damon is playing 1B.

[HBox]

What makes no sense? Johnny Damon is not a power hitter. I don't know who else to put there, my point was that the Yankees are in trouble if Damon is playing 1B.

No, it doesn't make any sense. The Yanks had Andy Phillips at first most of last year. There's not some rule that in order to win you need a power hitter at first. Power hitters end up at first base and corner outfield positions because they typically are bad on defense and those positions aren't defensively important.

Damon playing first makes no sense because he's not taking away the DH position from anyone you'd want to play there. There's not some bat he's blocking. The lineup would likely be the same whether Damon plays first or DH.

[JPMNICK]

WHY WOULD YOU TAKE OUT ANDY PETTITE?

it makes no sense. he was pitching fine, and was strugling a little and then Fucking Abreau in RF. does he think the middle relivers needs MORE innings.

[Billy_Mays]

WHY WOULD YOU TAKE OUT ANDY PETTITE?

it makes no sense. he was pitching fine, and was strugling a little and then Fucking Abreau in RF. does he think the middle relivers needs MORE innings.

He left with an injury (Suprise, suprise)

[lleeder]

No, it doesn't make any sense. The Yanks had Andy Phillips at first most of last year. There's not some rule that in order to win you need a power hitter at first. Power hitters end up at first base and corner outfield positions because they typically are bad on defense and those positions aren't defensively important.

Damon playing first makes no sense because he's not taking away the DH position from anyone you'd want to play there. There's not some bat he's blocking. The lineup would likely be the same whether Damon plays first or DH.

I agree in American League games this doesnt make any sense. Maybe they want him able to play first during some interleague games later in the month. If they start him slowly now maybe he'll be able to go by then.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Apparently, Cashman is so impressed with Black Earl's softball skills that he's going to be DHing tomorrow.

[HBox]

That was a great inning. Two guys who haven't done shit all year actually get on base and get something started and 3 guys who have carried the team all year can't do anything.

[KC2OSO]

Joe Morgan is a no-personality bag of shit. Fuck him.
Nice job Cano.

[foodcourtdruide]

No, it doesn't make any sense. The Yanks had Andy Phillips at first most of last year. There's not some rule that in order to win you need a power hitter at first. Power hitters end up at first base and corner outfield positions because they typically are bad on defense and those positions aren't defensively important.

Damon playing first makes no sense because he's not taking away the DH position from anyone you'd want to play there. There's not some bat he's blocking. The lineup would likely be the same whether Damon plays first or DH.

Sorry but I disagree, though I'll admit I am more of an NL fan and maybe it applies more there.

1B is a power position for the reasons you stated above. You can be lenient with the defensive ability of the player. You are wasting the ability to be lenient on Damon.

Furthermore, the Yankees are not supplementing the missing 1B power at any other position. For example, if their 1B was weak and their SS had power you could argue that there is balance, however, there is not.

[Dudeman]

That was a great inning. Two guys who haven't done shit all year actually get on base and get something started and 3 guys who have carried the team all year can't do anything.

game sum:
7th- man on 3rd, 1 out... nothing
8th- man on 3rd, 0 out... nothing

[HBox]

Sorry but I disagree, though I'll admit I am more of an NL fan and maybe it applies more there.

1B is a power position for the reasons you stated above. You can be lenient with the defensive ability of the player. You are wasting the ability to be lenient on Damon.

Furthermore, the Yankees are not supplementing the missing 1B power at any other position. For example, if their 1B was weak and their SS had power you could argue that there is balance, however, there is not.

Power isn't the only way to score runs. It'd be nice to have it but this team has plenty of players that can produce runs without HRs. They have way above average offensive production out of 3B, SS and C and above average offensive output out 2B, LF and RF (If Abreu is really back on track). Damon can create runs in other ways than HRs and he still can be an above average offensive performer.

Hitting shouldn't be the problem with this team. I think the problem was that over half the lineup went into a slump at the same time.

And one last thing. Damon still probably has more power than Mientkievicz and Phelps.

[lleeder]

Who said Abreu can't play defense?

[HBox]

Who said Abreu can't play defense?

His defense is fine. He's just a fucking airhead sometimes.

[foodcourtdruide]

Power isn't the only way to score runs. It'd be nice to have it but this team has plenty of players that can produce runs without HRs. They have way above average offensive production out of 3B, SS and C and above average offensive output out 2B, LF and RF (If Abreu is really back on track). Damon can create runs in other ways than HRs and he still can be an above average offensive performer.

Hitting shouldn't be the problem with this team. I think the problem was that over half the lineup went into a slump at the same time.

And one last thing. Damon still probably has more power than Mientkievicz and Phelps.

Power isn't the only way to score runs, but I think a team needs to be balanced in order to have productive offense. This team is not balanced.

While Damon is probably a better alternative then Mienklonglastname and Phelps, he's still a pretty bad alternative.

[KC2OSO]

Nice! A-Rod!

[Tenbatsuzen]

Dear Joe Morgan:

"Distraction to the team? Fuck you."

Love,

Alex P. Rodriguez.

PS - You really do look like the fucking hamburglar.

[Dudeman]

there goes my whole "miss april a-rod" post

[TheGameHHH]

now the question is.......can Mo hold it?

[Kevin]

Look Into The Catcher Like A Fagot Now!!!!! It Wont Work!!!!

[Marc with a c]

now the question is.......can Mo hold it?

3, 4, 5 coming up.

[Dudeman]

hey kevin, you may want to reconsider you sig pic

http://www.tshirtwatch.com/fashion/art/eliza-dushku-tshirt-conan.jpg

[Bulldogcakes]

http://www.thevintageplayhouse.com/image/atomicbomb/abomb.jpg


BTW-AMAZING catch by Abreau last inning. Saved the game at that point.

[weekapaugjz]

BTW-AMAZING catch by Abreau last inning. Saved the game at that point.

what a fucking catch. i didn't think there was any chance he was going to get it.

[Kevin]

hey kevin, you may want to reconsider you sig pic

http://www.tshirtwatch.com/fashion/art/eliza-dushku-tshirt-conan.jpg

EH, i chalk it up to misguided soul..

[Kevin]

Yankees Win Thhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Eeeeeeeeeeeeeee Yankeees Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin!!!

[TheGameHHH]

very important series to win.............on to chicago

[HBox]

Power isn't the only way to score runs, but I think a team needs to be balanced in order to have productive offense. This team is not balanced.

While Damon is probably a better alternative then Mienklonglastname and Phelps, he's still a pretty bad alternative.

They are still fine with power. A-Rod might hit 50 this year. If Posada keeps this up he'll be around 30. Matsui should have anywhere between 20 and 30. Jeter, Cano and Abreu should have anywhere between 10 and 20. And if Giambi returns they have him. It's not the crazy power they've had lately but its more than adequate.

[Bulldogcakes]

YES!!!


Despite last nights hideous loss, there were alot of good things that happened this weekend. Melky, Cano and Abreau are all hitting the ball again, and Mo looked sharp. Those are 4 huge things off my mind if they hold up going forward. Starters and bullpen were acceptable, if not great. But its very tough to keep the Bosox down, especially in Fenway.

[weekapaugjz]

i think the best play of the game was when posada blocked the plate with his right foot to get the out. what a great fucking player posada is.

[Bulldogcakes]

They are still fine with power. A-Rod might hit 50 this year. If Posada keeps this up he'll be around 30. Matsui should have anywhere between 20 and 30. Jeter, Cano and Abreu should have anywhere between 10 and 20. And if Giambi returns they have him. It's not the crazy power they've had lately but its more than adequate.

and to illustrate this point further, I'll post this again, the 1998 Yanks were 4th in the AL in HR's. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL_1998.shtml)

[foodcourtdruide]

and to illustrate this point further, I'll post this again, the 1998 Yanks were 4th in the AL in HR's. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL_1998.shtml)

Hard to judge on homerun totals for this year, because A-Rod had such a hot start and Giambi may miss the rest of the season. I don't really believe in raw statistics, but more team balance. Right now, this team is completely off-balance and Johnny Damon potentially playing first base is a prime example of that.

[foodcourtdruide]

They are still fine with power. A-Rod might hit 50 this year. If Posada keeps this up he'll be around 30. Matsui should have anywhere between 20 and 30. Jeter, Cano and Abreu should have anywhere between 10 and 20. And if Giambi returns they have him. It's not the crazy power they've had lately but its more than adequate.

I'd be kind of surprised if A-Rod hit 50 and Matsui touched 30. I'd say the line-up you're presenting is about average power-wise, I think losing Giambi really hurts. Compare that with a bad defensive team, an oft-injured rotation and a shaky bullpen and you have the 2007 NY Yankees.

[JPMNICK]

I'd be kind of surprised if A-Rod hit 50 and Matsui touched 30. I'd say the line-up you're presenting is about average power-wise, I think losing Giambi really hurts. Compare that with a bad defensive team, an oft-injured rotation and a shaky bullpen and you have the 2007 NY Yankees.

I think Losing Giambi was the best thing to happen to them. Joe does not have to feel bad sitting someone who makes 20 million a year. Giambi adds nothing, he can not play defense, he can barely run on the bases, and is so streaky as a hitter. his on base percentage is great because he walks so much, but the lower his average gets, the more pitches he will see.

[Jennitalia]

saw this on perezhilton last night. this is just way too funny. fucking arod.

http://perezhilton.com/upload/2007/06/mushys_film_career_hit/bosssston.jpg

http://perezhilton.com/upload/2007/06/mushys_film_career_hit/arod3.jpg

[A.J.]

We should have some sort of skills competition, Abreu vs. Pena.

Winner takes on J.D. Drew.

[foodcourtdruide]

I think Losing Giambi was the best thing to happen to them. Joe does not have to feel bad sitting someone who makes 20 million a year. Giambi adds nothing, he can not play defense, he can barely run on the bases, and is so streaky as a hitter. his on base percentage is great because he walks so much, but the lower his average gets, the more pitches he will see.

His OBP is not impressive because he walks a lot? Isn't that the point of OBP? Where do you replace Giambi's lefty power? Whether you like him or not, Giambi had a very good offensive year last year. Losing a guy who has a .951 career OPS IS NOT the best thing that could have happened to this team.

[Doctor Z]

I may be hearing things, and I hope I am... But did I just hear Kim Jones say that Joe Torre was giving A-Rod the game off... the night after he hit a game-winning home run?

[Don Stugots]

I may be hearing things, and I hope I am... But did I just hear Kim Jones say that Joe Torre was giving A-Rod the game off... the night after he hit a game-winning home run?


on Earth 2 you bench your best players, its not fair to the other team.

[HBox]

Who in the scheduling office thought it would be a good idea to have the Yankees play 7 games in Chicago before Chicago plays once in NY and 7 of 10 games against the White Sox in Chicago overall?

[HBox]

I may be hearing things, and I hope I am... But did I just hear Kim Jones say that Joe Torre was giving A-Rod the game off... the night after he hit a game-winning home run?

In just saw the lineup and A-Rod is in the lineup. But that evil leprechaun is right, you should burn the house down.

[HBox]

Here's something to chew on: In the series immediately following a Yankees-Red Sox series the Yankees are 24-32 since 2003.

[HBox]

Never mind. He kicked the ball. Good call.

[TheGameHHH]

I may be hearing things, and I hope I am... But did I just hear Kim Jones say that Joe Torre was giving A-Rod the game off... the night after he hit a game-winning home run?

no, he wants to give him a day off sometime soon. everybody has to rest sometime, except for ripken

[lleeder]

Miss tired groin clemens

[Kevin]

Miss tired groin clemens

Miss a 1b who could field...

[JPMNICK]

His OBP is not impressive because he walks a lot? Isn't that the point of OBP? Where do you replace Giambi's lefty power? Whether you like him or not, Giambi had a very good offensive year last year. Losing a guy who has a .951 career OPS IS NOT the best thing that could have happened to this team.

no i said losing his OBP is a big deal, that is was the main thing he brings to the lineup since he is such a streaky hitter. hitting 30 homeruns and batting .235 is not a great left bat.

[Doctor Z]

Josh Phelps has zero redeeming traits.

[J.Clints]

WERE IS CLEMENS clap clap clapWERE IS CLEMENS clap clap clapWERE IS CLEMENS clap clap clapWERE IS CLEMENS clap clap clapWERE IS CLEMENS clap clap clapWERE IS CLEMENS clap clap clap

[Dudeman]

WHERE IS CLEMENS clap clap clapWHERE IS CLEMENS clap clap clapWHERE IS CLEMENS clap clap clapWHERE IS CLEMENS clap clap clapWHERE IS CLEMENS clap clap clapWHERE IS CLEMENS clap clap clap .

[Dudeman]

Josh Phelps has zero redeeming traits.
he is batting better than half the rest of the lineup

phelps .273

damon .247
abreu .248
cano .268
cabrera .245

[Doctor Z]

Et tu Jete?

[J.Clints]

WERE IS CLEMENS clap clap clapWERE IS CLEMENS clap clap clapWERE IS CLEMENS clap clap clapWERE IS CLEMENS clap clap clapWERE IS CLEMENS clap clap clapWERE IS CLEMENS clap clap clap

.....

[foodcourtdruide]

no i said losing his OBP is a big deal, that is was the main thing he brings to the lineup since he is such a streaky hitter. hitting 30 homeruns and batting .235 is not a great left bat.

We won't agree here. A .951 OPS is a great lefty bat.

[spoon]

Really?

2007 Yankees Injuries April-June
Wang-15 day DL Hamstring pull
Mussina-15 day DL Hamstring pull
Hideki Matsui-15 day DL Hamstring pull
Phillip Hughes-Out till August Ankle sprain
Darrel Rasner-Out till August Broken finger
Jeff Karstens-2x once on 15 day DL Sore elbow, returned and then 60 day DL with different injury (Fractured Knee)
Humberto Sanchez-Out for season Tommy John surgery
Jose Veras-60 day DL-Elbow surgery
Carl Pavano-Out forever
Doug Mientkiewicz-Out 6-8 weeks Fractured Wrist
Jason Giambi-Out at least 3 weeks with Torn foot ligament, likely more

and Johnny Damon has been playing hurt all year.


You sure about that?


Yep, I'm sure. We lost our starting catcher, closer, first baseman, left fielder (and leadoff hitter), our staff ace, #3 starting pitcher, and setup man in the bullpen. Imagine the yankees without Posada, Mo, a real first baseman, Matsui, Petite and Wang, Proctor, and more. And we also have plenty of people fighting through injuries like Glaus, Wells and Marcum.

Take a look at this incomplete rundown in a recent article.


Along with Overbay, Toronto currently has catcher Gregg Zaun (right hand), left fielder Reed Johnson (back), closer B.J. Ryan (left elbow), starter Gustavo Chacin (left shoulder), reliever Brandon League (right shoulder), starter Victor Zambrano (right forearm), starter John Thomson (right shoulder) and reliever Davis Romero (left shoulder) on the DL.

Jays third baseman Troy Glaus missed 14 games in April due to a left foot injury, Wells missed 6 games with hamstring issues, and Toronto ace Roy Halladay had a stint on the 15-day DL in May after undergoing an emergency appendectomy. On the plus side, Zaun, League and Johnson could potentially be ready to be activated at different points this month.

[Kevin]

he is batting better than half the rest of the lineup

phelps .273

damon .247
abreu .248
cano .268
cabrera .245

Thats with minimum at bats.. Give him time, his avg will be just as awful.

And clints if your not careful, i could be shouting in soon..






WHERE IS YOUR HOCKEY TEAM.. CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP.. WHERE IS YOUR HOCKEY TEAM.. CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP!!

[Kevin]

Yep, I'm sure. We lost our starting catcher, closer, first baseman, left fielder (and leadoff hitter), our staff ace, #3 starting pitcher, and setup man in the bullpen. Imagine the yankees without Posada, Mo, a real first baseman, Matsui, Petite and Wang, Proctor, and more. And we also have plenty of people fighting through injuries like Glaus, Wells and Marcum.

Take a look at this incomplete rundown in a recent article.


Along with Overbay, Toronto currently has catcher Gregg Zaun (right hand), left fielder Reed Johnson (back), closer B.J. Ryan (left elbow), starter Gustavo Chacin (left shoulder), reliever Brandon League (right shoulder), starter Victor Zambrano (right forearm), starter John Thomson (right shoulder) and reliever Davis Romero (left shoulder) on the DL.

Jays third baseman Troy Glaus missed 14 games in April due to a left foot injury, Wells missed 6 games with hamstring issues, and Toronto ace Roy Halladay had a stint on the 15-day DL in May after undergoing an emergency appendectomy. On the plus side, Zaun, League and Johnson could potentially be ready to be activated at different points this month.

Minus Zambrano.. I have to agree with Spoony here.. Jays injuries are much more ridiculous.. But Spoony your killing me with Fogazi Z.. He doesnt deseve to be on any list.. In fact, him being injured may be a good thing for you..

[crb1]

Imagine the yankees without a real first baseman



Don't have to. They haven't had one since Tino Martinez left. They have had a $22 million/per season DH/invalid though.

Yep, I'm sure. We lost our starting catcher, closer, first baseman, left fielder (and leadoff hitter), our staff ace, #3 starting pitcher, and setup man in the bullpen. Imagine the yankees without Posada, Mo, a real first baseman, Matsui, Petite and Wang, Proctor, and more. And we also have plenty of people fighting through injuries like Glaus, Wells and Marcum.



If they lost all those guys, they'd be in LAST place! Thankfully, they're all healthy and the Yankees are in...oh...never mind.

[lleeder]

Did anyone hear the "ha ha" when Jeter just caught that pop up in the 2nd inning?

[Doctor Z]

Well, Clippard has thrown 87 pitches through 5 innings of 1-run ball. All this, the night after we pieced together an entire game with our bullpen.

So... who's Torre gonna have start the 6th inning?

[Doctor Z]

I was half kidding with my last post. But Proctor started the 6th.

[HBox]

Clippard has thrown 89 pitches and you have a four run lead and you won't even let him attempt to get through one more inning. This is the fucking wrong move whether it works out or not.

Looks like it worked out, for now.

[Doctor Z]

You know who doesn't pitch enough? Scott Proctor.

Also, you know who is great when you try to squeeze 2 innings out of him? Again, Scott Proctor.

[Doctor Z]

Kyle Farnsworth is the greatest reliever in the history of baseball.

[Kevin]

6 innings?? who needs your pitchers going 6inn?? Who needs to teach your young pitchers how to pitch out of trouble?? IRST SIGN OF TROUBEL, YOU TAK EM OUT!! Torre is so fucking bad with this pitching..


BTW.. That was a shot by Arod

[HBox]

This is a way to get Mariano save opportunities, I suppose.

[TheGameHHH]

i really dig clippard..........it was also nice to see the bats click tonight

[Sarge]

For his first time, Cairo played a pretty mean 1st base.

[Bulldogcakes]

i really dig clippard..........it was also nice to see the bats click tonight

Looks like we have a 5th starter, for now.

Also, I've thought for awhile that once the bats got going, the pitching would both look better and actually be better. When you score some runs it takes pressure off the staff, and puts the pressure on the other team. Abreau, Melky and Cano are all hitting now, Damon had a big night and A-Rod, Jeter and Posada have hit all year and Matsui's been fine. Thats an terrific lineup when its firing on all cylinders, a lot of tough outs in it and even w/o Giambi is still probably the best in Baseball.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I love the TV showing the fan being ejected.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Michael Kay: "I follow orders".

Michael Kay - NAZI!

[TheGameHHH]

Michael Kay: "I follow orders".

Michael Kay - NAZI!

next he's gonna give us the line how he was just following orders......folks, let me tell you about another group that was following orders, they were called Nazi's

YEA, fucking Nazi!

[TheGameHHH]

I thought A-Rod was safe there, but surprisingly Kay made a great point. If A-Rod hustles out of the box there he's in no problem. I'm not sure how he might have thought that ball was gone, it wasn't hit high enough to clear the wall.

[Tenbatsuzen]

next he's gonna give us the line how he was just following orders......folks, let me tell you about another group that was following orders, they were called Nazi's

YEA, fucking Nazi!

Hideki Matsui = Asian Design Major?

[TheGameHHH]

Hideki Matsui = Asian Design Major?

I heard he moonlights as Sang Matsui......yes Sang, past tense.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I heard he moonlights as Sang Matsui......yes Sang, past tense.

"Oh my god! Pavano is driving! How can that be?"

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/466/bearisdrivingsg1.gif

[Tenbatsuzen]

Michael kay's mistakes...

Kay says that the Springsteen concert that O'Neill went to after Cone's perfect game was "at Giants Stadium... not the Arena!".

Wrong you fucking Dumbass. Springsteen didn't play Giants Stadium with E-Street until 2002. That concert was indeed at Brendan Byrne, because I was there and fucking SAW O'Neill there!

(and I had better seats too)

[Doctor Z]

I love having someone with an arm in center field!

DON'T RUN ON THE MELK MAN!

[TheGameHHH]

the yanks base running is simply awful tonight

[Doctor Z]

Wang is the most low-profile ace in baseball. This guy is so disturbingly good, and does it so consistently. Like any great pitcher, he'll have an off day once in a blue moon, but it's almost a sure thing that you're gonna get 7 or 8 innings of 1 or 2-run ball every time out. Underrated and underexposed, I say.
He was a win short of 20 last year, and was the runner up for the Cy Young. Yet, I still have a feeling that baseball on the whole doesn't know about him. If someone who spoke English was the exact same pitcher Wang is, he'd probably be starting an All-Star game.

[TheGameHHH]

look at Bobby Abreu finding his bat again

[TheGameHHH]

Wang is the most low-profile ace in baseball. This guy is so disturbingly good, and does it so consistently. Like any great pitcher, he'll have an off day once in a blue moon, but it's almost a sure thing that you're gonna get 7 or 8 innings of 1 or 2-run ball every time out. Underrated and underexposed, I say.
He was a win short of 20 last year, and was the runner up for the Cy Young. Yet, I still have a feeling that baseball on the whole doesn't know about him. If someone who spoke English was the exact same pitcher Wang is, he'd probably be starting an All-Star game.

he is all those things you say, but i love that about him. let him fly under the radar and keep the limelight off of him. he is rather silent but goes out and does his work every time he's asked. to me, those of the best qualities a ballplayer can have.

[Doctor Z]

I agree, it's good that he's very professional and keeps a low profile. But I feel like he deserves a little more recognition/respect. No one seems to take him seriously as an ace... but the fact is, he's the Yankees' best pitcher, easily. And one of the best in the A.L.

Do you let him go for the complete game here? Pitch count is in the high 80's. I'd like to see him go for it, but I don't see Torre doing it.

[TheGameHHH]

I agree, it's good that he's very professional and keeps a low profile. But I feel like he deserves a little more recognition/respect. No one seems to take him seriously as an ace... but the fact is, he's the Yankees' best pitcher, easily. And one of the best in the A.L.

Do you let him go for the complete game here? Pitch count is in the high 80's. I'd like to see him go for it, but I don't see Torre doing it.

and oddly enough Wang was the last Yank to throw a complete game.

[HBox]

I agree, it's good that he's very professional and keeps a low profile. But I feel like he deserves a little more recognition/respect. No one seems to take him seriously as an ace... but the fact is, he's the Yankees' best pitcher, easily. And one of the best in the A.L.

Do you let him go for the complete game here? Pitch count is in the high 80's. I'd like to see him go for it, but I don't see Torre doing it.

He's the best pitcher the yanks have no doubt. The reason he's not widely viewed as an ace is because he's a sinker ball pitcher who doesn't strike out a bunch. The reason that can be a problem was discussed tonight by the announcers. He can go out there and have his best stuff but the opposing team will still put a lot of bats on balls and by chance sometimes a lot of them will find holes. Whereas most "aces" can go out there with their best stuff and befuddle a team every time.

But the more Wang succeeds the more people will have to take him seriously. You can't disprove his numbers.

[Doctor Z]

Of course he was. He's the ONLY pitcher that ever gives us length.
I'm in shock that Torre allowed him to start the 9th.

Complete game: Complete. Excellent job from the Wanger.

[TheGameHHH]

is that 4 of 6 for the Yanks?

[lleeder]

I love an Abreu answer. "Its good , its good"

[Crippler]

"Startin' to come together, Pepper...startin' to come together."

[Kevin]

is that 4 of 6 for the Yanks?

6 outa 8

[TheGameHHH]

6 outa 8

holy shit

[JPMNICK]

and it looks like Boston might lose again tonight, so it is another chance to pick up a game in the east as well as in the wildcard.

Wang pitched great tonight, thank god he gave the bullpen a rest, esp. after torree pulled Clippard so early last night. It's nice to see them string a few wins together.

[Bulldogcakes]

6 outa 8

Its actually 5 out of 7. They won the last game vs the Blue Jays, 2 of 3 from Boston, 2 of 3 so far from Chicago.

11 games out, still 5 games under .500. Still too early to get excited about the division. 6 out of the Wild Card, but again, lets get to .500 first. Great outing by Wang though, and the bats haven't missed a night lately.

[Tenbatsuzen]

And of course, the AP headline for last night is "Yankees Ride Wang to Complete Game Victory".

[Doctor Z]

A lot of people are definitely getting a l ittle too excited for a team that is 10.5 games out of the division. Like BDC said, the ONLY goal right now should be to get to .500, which is still a ways off. Considering we've won 5 of 7 and we're STILL 5 under, goes to show that it takes a long time to make up that kind of ground. Get above .500, then think about the Wild Card. Get to the top of the Wild Card, then think about Boston. Right now, the only realistic goal on that list is getting to .500. Boston shouldn't even be on our radar. If the Yankees start thinking too ahead of themselves, they'll lose track of the primary idea, which is to win series.

[Kevin]

Yanks take towering righty Brackman (http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070607&content_id=2011635&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy)



The Yankees went big with their first selection of Thursday's First-Year Player Draft, choosing North Carolina State junior right-hander Andrew Brackman with the 30th overall pick.
A 6-foot-10, 230-pound hurler, Brackman had been projected by some to be a possibility for the first five or 10 picks of the Draft. Brackman was 6-4 with a 3.81 ERA in his junior season. He allowed 78 hits in 78 innings, striking out 74 and walking 37 while holding opponents to a .264 batting average.

Clocked between 92-97 mph with his two-seam and four-seam fastballs, Brackman also features a low-80s knuckle-curveball and a mid-80s changeup. He has not pitched since May 12 at Virginia because of inflammation in his right elbow, but an MRI performed by North Carolina State reportedly showed no structural damage.


I would have taken one of the catchers but, You can't have enough sp.. This guy people are saying has top 3 ability.. Yankees continue to build their farm with pitching.

[TheGameHHH]

i think it was an awful selection. most guys that tall break down very fast and their mechanics get fucked up. the only real dude that tall to ever work out was Randy Johnson, this pick seems like a big shot in the dark.

[Doctor Z]

Phelps is the baseball equivalent of having someone put their balls in your ass.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Phelps is the baseball equivalent of having someone put their balls in your ass.

Are you saying that Phelps has 8 dicks in his ass, and room for one more?

[Marc with a c]

Phelps is the baseball equivalent of having someone put their balls in your ass.

that's called 'dogs in a bathtub'

i actually learned that listening to the ron and fez show

[Doctor Z]

5 scoreless from Moose... 1-run game... Is he done for the night?

OH-EM-GEE! OH-EM-GEE! Torre let him start the 6th too! Is this REAL?!

[Kevin]

that's called 'dogs in a bathtub'

i actually learned that listening to the ron and fez show

RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT.. SURE YOU DID!!! Come on Horsepants.. COME CLEAN.. You know Ron and Fez learned that from you!

[Doctor Z]

Moose is pitching so well right now, it would be a shame if we didn't score some more runs and end up losing this one. Time to fucking tack on some insurance, cuz I sure as shit don't trust our bullpen with 1 run.

[Kevin]

Every Fucking Time We Get On Some Roll.. This Dumb As Dog Shit Has To Fuck It Up With His Patent Dog Shit Move 79 Fucking Pitches.... 79

[Doctor Z]

Well, here it is...

We failed to score enough to make Moose's outing worthwhile. Fucking awesome.

[Doctor Z]

Wait, are we seriously warming Farnsworth in the 8th inning of a tie game?

[Tenbatsuzen]

I just pulled about a 1-inch sized callous off my pinky toe.

[HBox]

GAWD DYAMIT OWWZZIE!!!! WHY YA STYARTIN CYINTRON AT SHYOTSTYOP!!!!!! I ALMOST CHYOKED ON THIS SYAUSAGE!!!!

[Doctor Z]

Abreu Has A Pulse!

HOW COME I CAN'T POST IN ALL CAPS?! GAY!

...I DON'T GET IT!

[Tenbatsuzen]

GAWD DYAMIT OWWZZIE!!!! WHY YA STYARTIN CYINTRON AT SHYOTSTYOP!!!!!! I ALMOST CHYOKED ON THIS SYAUSAGE!!!!

Are you turning into Midkiff? Please don't do that.

[Kevin]

Rrrrrrrrrrrrroberto Abrau!!!

[Marc with a c]

Are you turning into Midkiff? Please don't do that.

he was doing mike north

[Doctor Z]

How did Farnsworth get so good? He is so good. I can trust him in any situation.

[Crippler]

Five outs needed out of Mo...not loving this, but not worried yet.

[Marc with a c]

how is that not an error?

[Crippler]

Jeter went so far to his right he wouldn't have likely thrown him out even if he handled it clean.

[Doctor Z]

Eat shit Pierzinski. You went down swinging. Shut your mouth.

[Sarge]

Whats he complaining about, he swung at it.

[Marc with a c]

Whats he complaining about, he swung at it.

he was saying the ball hit the dirt first.

[Doctor Z]

GRANNY?! IS THAT YOU?!

Damn you A-Rod! Had to rob Mo of another save! BOOOO!!!

[Kevin]

http://anarchy.files.wordpress.com/2006/08/bomb-1.jpg

[Marc with a c]

GRANNY?! IS THAT YOU?!

Damn you A-Rod! Had to rob Mo of another save! BOOOO!!!

he'll still get the save if he comes in in the ninth

[Kevin]

he'll still get the save if he comes in in the ninth

Hey Marc.. GUESS WHO'S LOOKIN LIKE THE BEST TEAM IN NY AGAIN!!!!!

[Doctor Z]

Yo, A-Rod's 9th inning numbers this year are fucking filthy.

[Kevin]

GRANNY?! IS THAT YOU?!

Damn you A-Rod! Had to rob Mo of another save! BOOOO!!!

Really come on!!! Get a 2run single here.. DID YOU HAVE TO BE GREEDY AND GET A GRANDSLAM?? Its all about #s with him!

[Doctor Z]

Aww! Torre just pinched Mo's cheek.

[JPMNICK]

You think it was a good move to leave Mo in?

Also, why pull Mussina? he has such a quick hook with his starters, and yet his bullpen keeps giving up runs.

[Doctor Z]

Wow, did anyone else just see Moose's lockerroom interview?

Kim Jones: "Was 80 pitches what you had in mind coming into tonight's game?"
Moose: "What I had in mind? No, it's not. I have about 100 pitches in mind every time."
Kim Jones: "Would you like to have stayed in?"
Moose: "Sure, I wanted to stay in. But I didn't get a choice."

[Dudeman]

Wow, did anyone else just see Moose's lockerroom interview?

Kim Jones: "Was 80 pitches what you had in mind coming into tonight's game?"
Moose: "What I had in mind? No, it's not. I have about 100 pitches in mind every time."
Kim Jones: "Would you like to have stayed in?"
Moose: "Sure, I wanted to stay in. But I didn't get a choice."

yeah, well after a good outing tonight he has his ERA down to 5.63... maybe coming into the game he should have the type of pitches he's going to thown in mind, instead of the number of pitches.

[TheGameHHH]

Yo, A-Rod's 9th inning numbers this year are fucking filthy.

they are, we were watching the game at the bar when he jacked that ball. i turned to my friends and said, 'I swear A-Rod is batting .500 with 200 HRs and 3,000 RBIs in the 9th inning this year'. It just seems like he gets it done that inning no matter what.

[Bulldogcakes]

Wow, did anyone else just see Moose's lockerroom interview?

Kim Jones: "Was 80 pitches what you had in mind coming into tonight's game?"
Moose: "What I had in mind? No, it's not. I have about 100 pitches in mind every time."
Kim Jones: "Would you like to have stayed in?"
Moose: "Sure, I wanted to stay in. But I didn't get a choice."

Torre babies his starters and abuses his relievers. That's S.O.P. for Joe, and always has been.

[Bulldogcakes]

he was doing mike north

I thought it was Suzyn Waldman.

Whats the difference, all those Bostonians have a hideous accent. They learn to talk that way when they eat babies for breakfast and spend the rest of their day killing puppies and kittens. That's of course, when they're not sexually molesting the pre-schoolers in their spare time.

[cougarjake13]

GAWD DYAMIT OWWZZIE!!!! WHY YA STYARTIN CYINTRON AT SHYOTSTYOP!!!!!! I ALMOST CHYOKED ON THIS SYAUSAGE!!!!

Are you turning into Midkiff? Please don't do that.

he was doing mike north

I thought it was Suzyn Waldman.

Whats the difference, all those Bostonians have a hideous accent. They learn to talk that way when they eat babies for breakfast and spend the rest of their day killing puppies and kittens. That's of course, when they're not sexually molesting the pre-schoolers in their spare time.

problem is mike north is from chicago and has a chicago accent

[Bulldogcakes]

problem is mike north is from chicago and has a chicago accent

Never heard of him.

[Bulldogcakes]

Nobody's a bigger Melky fan than me, but ooof. That was awful.

[Kevin]

I miss the Good ol days when Yankee Of's could actually Feild...

[cougarjake13]

Never heard of him.

neither did i until i lived in chi town for a year

he was /maybe still is the mike and the mad dog over there, i forget what his partner's name was

[Doctor Z]

The fact that we aren't winning this game right now is, scientifically speaking, incredibly homosexual.

[Bulldogcakes]

Not surprised they hit A-Rod. With the way he's hitting, he's going to see less and less as the year goes on. And as good as Posada's been hitting, he doesn't scare you as much as A-Rod does.

BTW-
YES!!!! TIE SCORE!!!!

[Kevin]

Gotta love these kooky mid west teams with bad bullpens..

[HBox]

I'm surprised almost nobody got the Mike North thing.

GAWD DYAMMIT! DYON'T ANY OF YOUSE GUYS LYISTEN TO THE GYODDAMNNED SHYOW! I JYUST DRYOPPED MY DYEEP DYISH PYIZZA OVA HYERE!!!!

[Doctor Z]

Matsui walked, 5-4 Yanks.

[Kevin]

Ahh Those kooky unclutch Yankees.. Make any lefty look like Johan Santana..

[Doctor Z]

How in the motherfucking shit-ass bitch hell did we just have bases-loaded, 1 out, and NOT FUCKING SCORE.

Fuck.

[TheMojoPin]

I'm surprised almost nobody got the Mike North thing.

GAWD DYAMMIT! DYON'T ANY OF YOUSE GUYS LYISTEN TO THE GYODDAMNNED SHYOW! I JYUST DRYOPPED MY DYEEP DYISH PYIZZA OVA HYERE!!!!

Deep, I hear that accent every goddamn day and that reads nothing like it. Reading it out sounds more like a Baltimore accent.

[Doctor Z]

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SfasdH!!! I WANT TO HAVE DIRTY MAN SEX WITH JETER!

[Doctor Z]

Is it just a coincidence that the Yankees started playing like an actual baseball team the moment Giambi hit the DL?

[Bulldogcakes]

Is it just a coincidence that the Yankees started playing like an actual baseball team the moment Giambi hit the DL?


Not at all, and thats why I thought it was actually a GOOD thing when he did, considering how bad he was hitting.

One thing, though. With the way A-Rod is hitting, there's really nobody in the lineup who can give him any protection. And in big spots in late innings he's just not going to get anything to hit (last night he was HBP), if they don't just go ahead and outright walk him. I don't think Posada will continue to hit like this, considering his position and his age. So finding someone to protect A-Rod and play 1st will become more important as the season progresses. Which means they need to go hard after Teixera. Teixera's a natural righty, but he's a switch hitter. So the lefty righty lineup thing will work, but not as smoothly as you'd hope. But the Yanks need a right handed power bat, so he's the guy to go after.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Gotta love these kooky mid west teams with bad bullpens..

Pittsburgh's not the "mid-west". It's above the Mason Dixon line and not far enough west. It's the outer edge of the Northeast. 90 miles south and you're in West Virginia, which is another weird geographical area.

[Doctor Z]

T-Minus 40 minutes...

[Kevin]

Pittsburgh's not the "mid-west". It's above the Mason Dixon line and not far enough west. It's the outer edge of the Northeast. 90 miles south and you're in West Virginia, which is another weird geographical area.

I was just in Pitt few weeks ago.. They consider themselves Midwest.. I know what your saying about location is true.. But they are like 45 min to an hour way from Ohio and such.. I was on the plane coming back sitting next to a dude from Pitt, and i asked him.. So you guys consider yourselves a northeast or Midwest town? He said Midwest.. So that is why i said it.. Hell.. Its as boring as any Midwest town, I'll tell you that much.

[Doctor Z]

2 hits and a run in the 1st inning. THE ROCKET IS BACK!!! This was worth every penny.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I never want to see Posada running that hard again. That was painful.

[weekapaugjz]

Pittsburgh's not the "mid-west". It's above the Mason Dixon line and not far enough west. It's the outer edge of the Northeast. 90 miles south and you're in West Virginia, which is another weird geographical area.

what does the mason dixon line have anything to do with being in the mid-west? so ohio, indiana, illinois, iowa, etc. wouldn't be mid west?

hoo hoo, i know everything about everything...

[Doctor Z]

3 runs and 5 hits over 4 innings, against this dangerous Pirates offense. WE ARE GO FOR LAUNCH!