OFFICIAL New York Yankees 2007 Season Thread

[HBox]

Now K-Rod gets to toy with the bottom of the order. This should be hilariously bad.

[Bulldogcakes]

The key to scoring runs is OBP. It's that simple.

Click here. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL_2006.shtml)

You might notice something. A bunch of teams with high OBP and low amounts of steals at the top of the list, and teams with low OBP and lots of steals at the bottom. It's a ranking of the highest scoring teams in the AL last year. This is not an aberration.

S (http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL_2005.shtml)ee also here. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL_2005.shtml)

And here. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL_2004.shtml)

And here. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL_2004.shtml)

And here. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL_2002.shtml)

And here. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL_2002.shtml)

And here. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL_2001.shtml)

Sometimes the highest scoring teams have a lot steals. they ALWAYS have high OBP.

Holy shit, I was talking about CENTER FIELD FOR SPEED. Thats twice I posted that. I never said I have a problem with OBP, I have a problem with Giambi as a very limited baseball player, the fact that he takes up 3 roster spots, and the team would be better served by someone who could pull his weight outside the batters box. You can find 1B who have good OBP and can catch the ball and run a little too.

And BTW-OPS is a more complete stat for hitting productivity. Put it this way, would you rather keep Giambi, or go after Teixera? I think we agree on that. The team would be better served by a more complete ballplayer.

[HBox]

Holy shit, I was talking about CENTER FIELD FOR SPEED. Thats twice I posted that. I never said I have a problem with OBP, I have a problem with Giambi as a very limited baseball player, the fact that he takes up 3 roster spots, and the team would be better served by someone who could pull his weight outside the batters box. You can find 1B who have good OBP and can catch the ball and run a little too.

And BTW-OPS is a more complete stat for hitting productivity. Put it this way, would you rather keep Giambi, or go after Teixera? I think we agree on that. The team would be better served by a more complete ballplayer.

I'm still bugged by the clogging the bases thing. I think you are underestimating Giambi's offensive value. First of all this team has only 3 HR threats. You can't get rid of Giambi unless you know you are getting a power hitter back. And I doubt that you will get one in a trade for Giambi because of a number of factors. Obviously Texeira is an upgrade but you can't count on getting him, let alone any time soon.

Still, Giambi is still too valuable to this team to try and get rid of him unless you know you have an immediate replacement. Without that you'd have essentially Melky replacing him in the lineup and that would be ugly.

[Kevin]

As fifty would say this team is on FIYA!

[TheGameHHH]

its going to be a long, brutal summer.

[Bulldogcakes]

I'm still bugged by the clogging the bases thing.

Fine. Next time he's on 2nd, lets just not say he's in scoring position. Because he's not.

Therefore. . . ahhh . .forget it.

[Kevin]

its going to be a long, brutal summer.

Unless this org wakes up and fires ol dumb as dogshit.. Your right.

[cougarjake13]

Unless this org wakes up and fires ol dumb as dogshit.. Your right.

not even that is gonna help the anemic offense and injured pitching staff

[Kevin]

not even that is gonna help the anemic offense and injured pitching staff

The lineup will eventually hit.. And the pitching has been pretty damn good... its this FUCK WAD.. Mismanaging The pen, and taking out starters early, that fucked up this team.. Bring in a manager WHO KNOWS WHAT THE FUCK HE IS DOING.. Before its too late.. And we could make a run at the WC.. Remember.. The Stros were way out at the break 2 yeas in a row, and made huge runs to make the play off.. But it all has to start with firring DUMB AS DOG SHIT!

[Doctor Z]

Feel free to read my expressions of disgust:
http://yankeeblog.wordpress.com

[Fallon]

12.5

[cougarjake13]

12.5

http://www.maidenfans.com/imc/pictures/pictures13_dod/facesand.jpg

[Dan 'Hampton]

12.5

Lets worry about the second place team for now.
I watched the end of the game yesterday with my father in law. I thought there was no way they don't win that with 2 on and no outs, KRod pitching horribly. You guys are cursed. It's almost to the point now where i genuinely feel bad for you.

[7fttall500+]

I have said it once before and I will say it again and again if I have to.....YOU DO NOT FIRE TORRE!!!!!!!!

[TheGameHHH]

heres an interesting stat: Scott Proctor had not allowed a run since April 29 until his blow-up Sunday.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

the Yanks need a Motivational speaker to Help them get their confidence back. I have a Suggestion


http://paulduncan.org/files/matt_foley.jpg

:king:

[spoon]

You guys ready!? It's a battle for the 7th spot in the wild card race tonight!!!! And if all things go right, possibly 6th (Orioles)!

WOW! How fucking exciting is this!?

[Don Stugots]

http://www.maidenfans.com/imc/pictures/pictures13_dod/facesand.jpg

wow that is cool.

[TheGameHHH]

You guys ready!? It's a battle for the 7th spot in the wild card race tonight!!!! And if all things go right, possibly 6th (Orioles)!

WOW! How fucking exciting is this!?

get ready, we OWN the 8th spot and we ain't giving it up for anybody!!! Unless 9th place is open, cause we'll take that as well.

[cougarjake13]

the Yanks need a Motivational speaker to Help them get their confidence back. I have a Suggestion


http://paulduncan.org/files/matt_foley.jpg

:king:

he's as dead as the yankees season

[Kevin]

he's as dead as the yankees season

I shall quote this when we celabrate in Shea in Oct.. To win the World Series against you guys........ AGAIN

[TheGameHHH]

Great news about the game tonight, no Michael Kay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bulldogcakes]

I shall quote this when we celabrate in Shea in Oct.. To win the World Series against you guys........ AGAIN

Kev, I love ya but please. Lets get to .500 first and then see about raising expectations.

Have I mentioned I HATE Flaherty? WTF makes him an expert worth listening to on anything? He was a lousy player and a Yank for 5 minutes.

[Kevin]

You guys ready!? It's a battle for the 7th spot in the wild card race tonight!!!! And if all things go right, possibly 6th (Orioles)!

WOW! How fucking exciting is this!?

Don't sing it....

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00006JU8M.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

[Kevin]

Great news about the game tonight, no Michael Kay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To quote Friday...



WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE..

BTW..Who is this fag singing Oh Cannanada??

[TheGameHHH]

who wants to bet the yankees line-up makes McGowen look like Nolan Ryan tonight?

[lleeder]

who wants to bet the yankees line-up makes McGowen look like Nolan Ryan tonight?

If I was a team facing the yankees, I'd pull up 3 kids from AA or AAA to make every start of the series.

[Kevin]

who wants to bet the yankees line-up makes McGowen look like Nolan Ryan tonight?

They would make Samantha Ryan, look like Nolen Ryan

[Kevin]

Well it over.. Too big of a deficit for them to overcome.

[Kevin]

Great work boys.

[TheGameHHH]

If I was a team facing the yankees, I'd pull up 3 kids from AA or AAA to make every start of the series.

isnt that what the blue jays are doing anyway?

[7fttall500+]

Maybe the Yankees should have 3 pitchers go 2 innings each instead of the starter just going 5 or 6

[Bulldogcakes]

Cant complain about Joe getting DeSalvo at 75 pitches. He was all over the place.

[Kevin]

Cant complain about Joe getting DeSalvo at 75 pitches. He was all over the place.

Yea, and for once.. Vizcieno did his job! I was expecting a gapper

As i am watching this.. Nice work on getting out on 1 pitch DJ.

[7fttall500+]

Cant complain about Joe getting DeSalvo at 75 pitches. He was all over the place.

I agree with the change...Long inning and Jeter swings at the first pitch, thats smart baseball!!!

[lleeder]

isnt that what the blue jays are doing anyway?

Yeah but they're doin it cause they have no other choice.

[TheGameHHH]

this is honestly painful to watch

[cougarjake13]

well at least you got this to look forward to


http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6859844

[lleeder]

What makes it worse is there is noone to bring in to pitch and not even a glimmer of hope that a run will be scored.

[lleeder]

well at least you got this to look forward to


http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6859844

Can he hit for Abreu too?

[Kevin]

Can he hit for INSERT ANY YANKEE too?

Thats better

[cougarjake13]

Can he hit for Abreu too?

yep and prob do a lot better at it too

makes you wonder what the phils knew

[BoondockSaint]

Where's Andy Stankiewicz when you need him?

[cougarjake13]

Where's Andy Stankiewicz when you need him?

or joel skinner


or even wayne tolleson

[Bulldogcakes]

this is honestly painful to watch

I'm numb at this point.

[Kevin]

I'm numb at this point.

I cant wait to here how Francessa spins why Torre should not be fired tomorrow..

[cougarjake13]

I cant wait to here how Francessa spins why Torre should not be fired tomorrow..

prob something along the lines of this yankee team is so great on paper that they shouldnt have to be forced to play the regular season and should be able to just show up in october

[Kevin]

prob something along the lines of this yankee team is so great on paper that they shouldnt have to be forced to play the regular season and should be able to just show up in october

Laugh it up Met fans.. You won't get many more chances too. Just concentrate on making sure your team does not lose to an 83 win team this year..

[cougarjake13]

Laugh it up Met fans.. You won't get many more chances too. Just concentrate on making sure your team does not lose to an 83 win team this year..

as long as we dont have to throw out a yankee like pitching staff if we make the playoffs i think we'd be alright

[TheGameHHH]

who wants to bet the yankees line-up makes McGowen look like Nolan Ryan tonight?

well that wasnt hard to predict

[BoondockSaint]

Laugh it up Met fans.. You won't get many more chances too. Just concentrate on making sure your team does not lose to an 83 win team this year..

Huh?

[Kevin]

Huh?

http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/061019/061019_ProCards_hmed1_9p.h2.jpg

[cougarjake13]

Huh?

http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/061019/061019_ProCards_hmed1_9p.h2.jpg

now boys lets not get into this again

[Kevin]

as long as we dont have to throw out a yankee like pitching staff if we make the playoffs i think we'd be alright


Your telling me that if th Mets had a chance to have Wang Mussina Clemens Hughes, that they would no take at least 3 over your guys??

[Kevin]

now boys lets not get into this again

We are not getting into anything.. Its countless posts by you met fans.. We get it.. Your happy that we are sucking balls right now.. We do not need reminding..

[cougarjake13]

Your telling me that if th Mets had a chance to have Wang Mussina Clemens Hughes, that they would no take at least 3 over your guys??

obviously not those guys

im referring to the hasbeens and wannabees that you had to throw out there a couple times not knowing what you were gonna get like the mets had to in the nlcs

[mdr55]

Just wait until the Rocket gets here.

[cougarjake13]

We are not getting into anything.. Its countless posts by you met fans.. We get it.. Your happy that we are sucking balls right now.. We do not need reminding..

it was more for bossanova cause you know a luis gonzalez pick wasnt far away

[Kevin]

obviously not those guys

im referring to the hasbeens and wannabees that you had to throw out there a couple times not knowing what you were gonna get like the mets had to in the nlcs

Ohhh you mean the imortal Aaron smalls of te world??

[BoondockSaint]

http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/061019/061019_ProCards_hmed1_9p.h2.jpg


Oh, right. We lost to the team that beat the team that whipped your team.

[Kevin]

it was more for bossanova cause you know a luis gonzalez pick wasn't far away

Then i would have posted a certain picture of a certain celebration that happened on a certain stadium on a certain year that ended in 000 and started with a 2..

[cougarjake13]

Ohhh you mean the imortal Aaron smalls of te world??

yep

[cougarjake13]

Then i would have posted a certain picture of a certain celebration that happened on a certain stadium on a certain year that ended in 000 and started with a 2..

exactly we went down that road once before and i was trying to avoid it

[Kevin]

exactly we went down that road once before and i was trying to avoid it

Word..

[Bulldogcakes]

Can you believe the New York Yankees, 200 mil payroll, All-Stars at every position, are now 7 games under .500?

[Kevin]

Can you believe the New York Yankees, 200 mil payroll, All-Stars at every position, are now 7 games under .500?

Who is their Manager again??

[cougarjake13]

Who is their Manager again??

stump merrill

[Kevin]

stump merrill

I wish

[cougarjake13]

I wish

if not him how bout dallas green ???

[Kevin]

if not him how bout dallas green ???

Still better

[Don Stugots]

stump merrill

I wish

me too. actually, i wish Martin was still out there.

[TheGameHHH]

was there something somebody saw tonight that means torre should be blamed for this loss?

[Kevin]

was there something somebody saw tonight that means torre should be blamed for this loss?

This team has taken the personalty of their manager.. Sleeping during the game..

[Doctor Z]

http://homepage.mac.com/drideco/.Pictures/WhiteFlag.jpg

[A.J.]

me too. actually, i wish Martin was still out there.

Dig him up. He couldn't do any worse than Torre.

[K.C.]

I've been saying it since the beginning:



http://www.cortlandstandard.net/images/photo/01112007_002.jpg


= the NEW


http://ultimateyankees.com/Martin-SI3.jpg



Bowa would either turn the team around, or set it on fire in such a blaze of glory that it'll at least be entertaining to watch.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Bowa is the Man you want if you want a 82 win season. I don't know how he'd go over in a clubhouse filled with established stars. The talk of Girardi coming in an righting the ship by being a hard-nosed manager really doesn't seem the way to go. Mattingly is the answer, and I hear he's great with the media.

[tupper65]

I don't think that Torre's going anywhere mid-season. Cashman is another story though

[King Hippos Bandaid]

way to go Yanks. important team meeting then Job 7-2 to the Bluejays and a lourney Man Pitcher, hows the cellar feeling

:king:

[K.C.]

I don't think that Torre's going anywhere mid-season. Cashman is another story though

If they keep losing games at the rate they are, he'll go just for the sake of making a change...Cashman too.

As for Girardi, he was doing the color commentary for the Phillies/Braves game last Saturday on FOX and the play by play guy (Kenny Albert, I think), asked him about the Yankees point blank and Girardi kind of hinted that he wouldn't be interested in taking over midseason especially if it meant Torre was getting fired, since he respects him so much.

If the Yanks fire Torre, my guess is they probably go with an in-house interim manager to finish out the season, which would be either Mattingly or Bowa, and then try and hire Girardi in the offseason.


I just wonder if Steinbrenner could ever bring himself to do the right thing if the Yankees fall even further out and start looking to trade off pieces of this team for prospects.

[mendyweiss]

http://videodetective.com/photos/002/000124_21.jpg

When the going gets tough.............




























The tough get going !!!!!!

[TheGameHHH]

when the yanks need another rookie starter i wanna throw my name into the mix, i cant do much worse. i have a nasty 73 mph heater and a breaking pitch that will throw hitters off when it clocks in at 60mph.

[Don Stugots]

i can throw a knuckleball. i dont know if i can reach the plate or find the catchers' glove but what the hell.

[lleeder]

when the yanks need another rookie starter i wanna throw my name into the mix, i cant do much worse. i have a nasty 73 mph heater and a breaking pitch that will throw hitters off when it clocks in at 60mph.

Can you walk in runs? We need a guy that can walk in runs.

[Kevin]

i love how fatso and fruit loops do not even mention that Torre should get fired or even has heat on him.. They say maybe in the off season Torre might not survive.. what the hell are they watching?

[Bulldogcakes]

hows the cellar feeling

:king:

You tell me. You've been here alot more than we'll ever be.

BTW-Where did you guys leave the can opener?

[Bulldogcakes]

i love how fatso and fruit loops do not even mention that Torre should get fired or even has heat on him.. They say maybe in the off season Torre might not service.. what the hell are they watching?

Francesa has Torre's home phone #, and thats all he cares about. He might not be so friendly with the next manager, and get all those "inside scoops" he gets from Torre. Most of which we all know before he mentions them on the air.
BTW-He just dropped Teixera's name for the first time this afternoon. I guess he's been reading my posts, and H-Box heard about it before I did.

[Don Stugots]

Francesa has Torre's home phone #, and thats all he cares about. He might not be so friendly with the next manager, and get all those "inside scoops" he gets from Torre. Most of which we all know before he mentions them on the air.
BTW-He just dropped Teixera's name for the first time this afternoon. I guess he's been reading my posts, and H-Box heard about it before I did.

i just got off the phone with him and he said that he never reads your posts.

[lleeder]

i just got off the phone with him and he said that he never reads your posts.

This is no place for humor this is serious business Mr.

[Bulldogcakes]

i just got off the phone with him and he said that he never reads your posts.

Pfft. Dont you know who "Annoyed Grunt" REALLY is?

[Don Stugots]

Pfft. Dont you know who "Annoyed Grunt" REALLY is?

i aint saying a thing. i know what snitches get.

[TheGameHHH]

hey look, the yanks are about to go down again in the 1st inning

[Bulldogcakes]

hey look, the yanks are about to go down again in the 1st inning

1-0 first inning. I'd say you can turn it off right now.


Usually that would be me being pissy and sarcastic. But unfortunately, I'm dead serious.

[TheGameHHH]

who called Giambi dead weight on the bases? did u guys see that blazing speed?

[Bulldogcakes]

http://www.photographyblog.com/gallery/data/3040/1294waterdrop.jpg

Drip. . . . drip. . . . .drip . . . . .

[HBox]

What's this?! What just happened?

[Kevin]

Now that Johan Marcum Santana is out.. WE HAVE A SHOT!!!!

[TheGameHHH]

Giambi, power and speed......gotta love him

[Kevin]

Wow did Abrau knock the crap out of that one..

Sure Joe, take out your best feilding 1b.. LATE IN THE GAME!!! And Gibby puts in a left.. I CAN HIT A LEFTY BETTER THAN PHELPS!!!!!!!

[Bulldogcakes]

A Run!!! We Scored A Run!!!!!

H-box, Hhh, Kev, Come On Over Here!!! Group Hug!!!!!!!

[lleeder]

A Run!!! We Scored A Run!!!!!

H-box, Hhh, Kev, Come On Over Here!!! Group Hug!!!!!!!

Thats the good news. The bad news is Giambi will miss the rest of the week.

[HBox]

Thats the good news. The bad news is Giambi will miss the rest of the week.

He's gotta be exhausted. No one on the team has run that much in over a month.

[Kevin]

Its the 7th.. Torre has got to e itching for that Bullpen phone.. YOU BETTER NOT GET ANYONE ON ANDY.. OR YOUR OUT.. OUT I TELL YA!!!

[Kevin]

Ol midas touch Torre strikes again..

[Kevin]

More fantastic work... Way to take menky out Joe.. GREAT JOB..




Fucking idiot.

[HBox]

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!

[Crippler]

Damn...I don't remember the last time I actually saw a steal of home "live" while watching a game, not on SportsCenter. I swear sometimes this team is sleepwalking. Everyone on the infield should have been screaming at Pettittte, seems like Jorge was the first to see it & he was blocked by the batter. Awful.

[Bulldogcakes]

More fantastic work... Way to take menky out Joe.. GREAT JOB..




Fucking idiot.

Mentky's in there, he catches A-Rods throw and Andy's out of the inning.

Is there a single move Torre has made this season that hasn't blown up in his face?

[Kevin]

Note to Dumb as Dogshit....









































PUT GIAMBI BACK IN THE FUCKING 3RD SPOT.. YOU DUMB MOTHERFUCKER!!

[Kevin]

Now if we can get the other team to commit 2 errors every inn.. WE MAY HAVE SOMETHING!!!!!

[Kevin]

is there a worse defensive LF in the leauge than Matsui??

[Doctor Z]

Wow, like BDC said... Finding a new way to lose every day.

14.5

Good fucking night.

[HBox]

That Andy Pettitte death stare makes this all worth while. Almost.

[TheGameHHH]

i honestly feel bad for pettite, i kinda just wanna give him a hug and let him know its not his fault. like how robin williams hugged matt damon in good will hunting.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Wow, this is getting Sad, the Yanks losing to Minor League Pitchers

:king:

[Bulldogcakes]

http://www.steakandcheese.com/content/homepage/images/make-me-famous/blow-your-brains-out.jpg

http://www.fsa.ulaval.ca/personnel/VernaG/EH/GIF/Kiev_immolation.gif

http://www.ritilan.com/archives/images/2004/12/17/121704-base-jump.jpg

Pick one.

[Doctor Z]

The Yankees have continually spit in Pettitte's face and shown him the ultimate disrespect you can show a pitcher. This team needed to be blown up and restructured at the end of last year, when we went dead against Detroit. But surprise, surprise! We made no major changes, and carried that comatose behavior into the 2007 season. It's not like the warning signs weren't there. Every logical Yankee fan knew that the end of last season was a call for major change. But Cashman stayed put. He is just as responsible for this mess as Torre. How much longer is George gonna sit back and watch this happen?

[Kevin]

The Yankees have continually spit in Pettitte's face and shown him the ultimate disrespect you can show a pitcher. This team needed to be blown up and restructured at the end of last year, when we went dead against Detroit. But surprise, surprise! We made no major changes, and carried that comatose behavior into the 2007 season. It's not like the warning signs weren't there. Every logical Yankee fan knew that the end of last season was a call for major change. But Cashman stayed put. He is just as responsible for this mess as Torre. How much longer is George gonna sit back and watch this happen?

George is dead.. That was Larry David the other day, saying Cashman is on a big hook..

[BoondockSaint]

Where will the Yankees sleep if their home has been stolen?

[Kevin]

Where will the Yankees sleep if their home has been stolen?


Since they are playing like Dogs.. In the Doghouse..



What?

[Marc with a c]

Where will the Yankees sleep if their home has been stolen?

on aaron's hill

[TheGameHHH]

so......whos feeling great about Tyler Clippard tomorrow?

[Kevin]

on aaron's hill

Mikey was right about you...




And by the way...










Your sneakers.....
































































ARE UGLY!!!!

[HBox]

The Yankees have continually spit in Pettitte's face and shown him the ultimate disrespect you can show a pitcher. This team needed to be blown up and restructured at the end of last year, when we went dead against Detroit. But surprise, surprise! We made no major changes, and carried that comatose behavior into the 2007 season. It's not like the warning signs weren't there. Every logical Yankee fan knew that the end of last season was a call for major change. But Cashman stayed put. He is just as responsible for this mess as Torre. How much longer is George gonna sit back and watch this happen?

Joe Torre should have been fired before the season and he should be fired now. Besides that......

For the love of christ, stop acting like anyone saw this coming. Trading away Gary Sheffield and Randy Johnson are not major changes? What more could they have done? Trade away Giambi? No one wants him. Abreu? They got him because they were the only ones who could afford him, and now no one would want him. A-Rod? He's the only tradeable asset but imagine how bad this team would be without him. You trade him away now and this team will be in the toilet for a long time.

There's not a player on this team who is struggling right now who not only produced last year but earlier this season as well. Everyone is saying there should have been major changes but what could they have done? The only thing I can say Cashman did wrong is signing Igawa over someone like Ted Lilly. Other than that there was nothing on the free agent market and the players everyone wants to get rid of nobody else wants.

[Doctor Z]

so......whos feeling great about Tyler Clippard tomorrow?

Let's not even kid ourselves anymore. Tomorrow's game counts as much as a charity exhibition game. The 2007 season is effectively over. The 1915 Boston Braves were the last team to come back from a 14.5-game deficit, so I don't even want to hear "It's only May" from anyone. And we're almost as far out of the Wild Card as we are the division, with about 10 teams in front of us, so we can put that one to rest too. It fucking sucks, but let's just all come to terms... The question now is: Who gets fired, who stays, who goes, and how do we play out 2007 to benefit in 2008?


...Why did we sign Clemens again?

[Fallon]

It is high... it is far.... it's the yankees view from the basement!

[Bossanova]

It is high... it is far.... it's the yankees view from the basement!

PHACE

[ChrisTheCop]

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[Doctor Z]

Worst fans in sports.

[Kevin]

It is high... it is far.... it's the yankees view from the basement!

PHACE


Come on, that made no sense what so ever..

[Kevin]

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You can have your div.. Good it did us last year. Or the year before, or the year before..

[RingWraith]

Sooooo........ Can I press the panic button now???

Just wondering.

[HBox]

Come on, that made no sense what so ever..

He completely mangled an easy joke. It should go as follows:

"IT IS HIGH...... IT IS FAR..... THE YANKEES PLAYOFF CHANCES ARE GOOOOOONNNNEEEE!!!!!!!"

Then they would have laffed and laffed and laffed.

[Kevin]

He completely mangled an easy joke. It should go as follows:

"IT IS HIGH...... IT IS FAR..... THE YANKEES PLAYOFF CHANCES ARE GOOOOOONNNNEEEE!!!!!!!"

Then they would have laffed and laffed and laffed.

What can you expect from a dirty Redsox fan?? Why do you think they love Manny so much?? He embodies them!!

[Bulldogcakes]

The only thing I can say Cashman did wrong is signing Igawa over someone like Ted Lilly. Other than that there was nothing on the free agent market and the players everyone wants to get rid of nobody else wants.

Exactly. And everyone wants to act like Kreskin since Lilly is off to a good start in the NL, meanwhile the guy is a career .500 pitcher. Ted Lilly would have been a more safe move than Igawa, but he's not a difference maker on this team. Plus he already spit the bit once in NY, and once signed he would have been yet another untradeable if he repeated that here.

[Bulldogcakes]

http://www.nypost.com/seven/05302007/photos/news002.jpg
This is the first time someone got a picture, but its long been rumored that he goes to strip clubs and he and his wife are swingers. Who cares.


I only wish he would take some of his teammates to strip clubs, maybe they'd play like he does. And geeez, I'd think A-Rod can get a better piece of ass than that. She looks OK, but he's A-Rod for fucks sake.

[A.J.]

It is high... it is far.... it's the yankees view from the basement!

I remember 1978. Please don't jinx it.

[TheGameHHH]

ok, new night........lets get excited for this game!!!

[Crippler]

That's right...let's keep our chins up, we're gonna turn this thing around...right?!

[Bulldogcakes]

I lived through the 94 baseball strike, I can live through one bad Yankee season. The fact of the matter is we have less of these lost seasons than anyone else, so its tough to complain too much.

And I try to remind myself that one day I wont have Derek, Jorge, A-Rod and Mariano to watch play baseball anymore, so you have to take advantage of it while its there. You only get so many days in the sun, as players and as a fan.

[TheGameHHH]

tonight feels like a night where the pitching lets us down. i say the yanks score 5 or 6 runs but give up 8 or 9.

[Kevin]

We Have A Lead....

[TheGameHHH]

john flahrety just said, 'That pitch was right over the plate, and that's Josh Phelps' strength'. the question is, whos strength isnt a ball right over the plate?

[Kevin]

john flahrety just said, 'That pitch was right over the plate, and that's Josh Phelps' strength'. the question is, whos strength isnt a ball right over the plate?

Any Yankee hitter prior to tonight

[Don Stugots]

Exactly. And everyone wants to act like Kreskin since Lilly is off to a good start in the NL, meanwhile the guy is a career .500 pitcher. Ted Lilly would have been a more safe move than Igawa, but he's not a difference maker on this team. Plus he already spit the bit once in NY, and once signed he would have been yet another untradeable if he repeated that here.

you forgot: if the yanks had signed Ted Lilly, they would have been cursed for going after a free agent.

[HBox]

I love this "Let's score all of our runs in 1 of every 6 games" thing that they got going on here.

[cougarjake13]

you forgot: if the yanks had signed Ted Lilly, they would have been cursed for going after a free agent.

why should the yankees care about that now ???

[HBox]

john flahrety just said, 'That pitch was right over the plate, and that's Josh Phelps' strength'. the question is, whos strength isnt a ball right over the plate?

Abreu would pull away from the plate and try and draw a ball.

[TheGameHHH]

Any Yankee hitter prior to tonight

im not even talking about just yankees here, im talking every baseball player to ever play the game......from the pros on down to little league.

[HBox]

Guess what? Remember Phil Hughes? You are going to keep on remembering him for a long time. Think August.

Click here for pain. (http://yankees.lohudblogs.com/2007/05/30/phil-hughes-update/)

Brian Cashman admitted today that Phil Hughes has a Grade 3 ankle sprain and will need 4-6 weeks of rehab time before he gets back on the mound. Given that will take Hughes an additional four weeks to get his arm ready to pitch, we’re looking at 8-10 weeks before he is back on the mound. And that’s assuming everything goes well.
So don’t expect Hughes back before mid-August. A Grade 3 sprain is the most serious. That is on top of a Grade 2 hamstring year.

[Kevin]

Guess what? Remember Phil Hughes? You are going to keep on remembering him for a long time. Think August.

Click here for pain. (http://yankees.lohudblogs.com/2007/05/30/phil-hughes-update/)

Are you even surprised anymore??

[Kevin]

Here is comes..

[TheGameHHH]

when was the last time u saw a Jeter hat trick?

[Bulldogcakes]

Singleton just said Hughes has a Grade THREE ankle sprain. Another 4-6 weeks for Hughes.
It never fucking ends this year. Does anyone else remember 1979? Feels exactly the same. One thing on top of the other.

EDIT-H-Box beat me to it.

[TheGameHHH]

tonight feels like a night where the pitching lets us down. i say the yanks score 5 or 6 runs but give up 8 or 9.

if im right about this, im gonna fucking kill somebody........then go to vegas and win millions

[TheGameHHH]

13.5 Bitches!!!

[HBox]

A-Rod: "I don't give a fuck. Fuck em."

:lol:

[J.Clints]

Wow Great Season Go Yankees.

[spoon]

A-Rod: "I don't give a fuck. Fuck em."

:lol:

So much talent and such a fucking dick! Fuck him and his hooker of a wife. How many times is he going to be involved in bush league type plays running the bases? What a first class asshole! It would have been great if Matt Stairs (hockey player) came out of left and just checked his faggy ass.

I'm ashamed the Jays only took 2 of 3 from these worthless dickheads. Have fun in Boston!

[HBox]

So much talent and such a fucking dick! Fuck him and his hooker of a wife. How many times is he going to be involved in bush league type plays running the bases? What a first class asshole! It would have been great if Matt Stairs (hockey player) came out of left and just checked his faggy ass.

I'm ashamed the Jays only took 2 of 3 from these worthless dickheads. Have fun in Boston!

And Jason Phillips shoving Josh Phelps yesterday was all class, right?

[RingWraith]

"Yesterday, we won a game. We win one (tomorrow), THAT'S TWO-IN-A-ROW! We win another on (Saturday), it's called a WINNING STREAK! It has happened before. SO LETS SEE SOME HUSTLE!!!!!"

I wonder if Torre can say something like this to the Yanks? Actually, maybe the Yanks should fight each other in their dugout.

Sorry, I watched Major League II not too long ago.

[HBox]

Sorry, I watched Major League II not too long ago.

http://assets.espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/65x90/5698.jpg: ::whistles::

http://assets.espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/65x90/7042.jpg: .........

http://assets.espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/65x90/5698.jpg: Hi friend.

http://assets.espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/65x90/7042.jpg: You have no........ You have no......... MARBLES! You have no marbles!

http://assets.espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/65x90/5698.jpg: (Takes insult, tries to draw walk)

[RingWraith]

http://assets.espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/65x90/5698.jpg: ::whistles::

http://assets.espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/65x90/7042.jpg: .........

http://assets.espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/65x90/5698.jpg: Hi friend.

http://assets.espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/65x90/7042.jpg: You have no........ You have no......... MARBLES! You have no marbles!

http://assets.espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/65x90/5698.jpg: (Takes insult, tries to draw walk)


I just saw the encore of the game and looks like A-Rod took a page from "Willie Mays-Hayes" and called "I got it!" with the pop up in the 9th with 2 outs. I never thought I see that in a real game. And obviously he got away with it.

Or maybe he is a big fan Eddie Guerrero's philosophy.

[RingWraith]

So much talent and such a fucking dick! Fuck him and his hooker of a wife. How many times is he going to be involved in bush league type plays running the bases? What a first class asshole! It would have been great if Matt Stairs (hockey player) came out of left and just checked his faggy ass.

I'm ashamed the Jays only took 2 of 3 from these worthless dickheads. Have fun in Boston!

Oh come on! If one of the Blue Jay players did the same thing to the Yanks, you would've loved it.

[Justice4all]

http://www.nypost.com/seven/05302007/photos/news002.jpg
This is the first time someone got a picture, but its long been rumored that he goes to strip clubs and he and his wife are swingers. Who cares.


I only wish he would take some of his teammates to strip clubs, maybe they'd play like he does. And geeez, I'd think A-Rod can get a better piece of ass than that. She looks OK, but he's A-Rod for fucks sake.

absolutely....if he is not hurting anyone and having fun...why not.

And maybe she took a bad pic, he mad be Arod but you don't know what that gal looks like in person.

[Don Stugots]

no one should care about who he is banging period. i dont think she looks bad.

[Bulldogcakes]

If that was anyone but A-Rod, people would say "He taught a rookie a lesson" or something like that. But since its him, they want to call the league office for some reason.

The appropriate response from a veteran would be "Shit, I cant believe I fell for that".

[BoondockSaint]

A petite stripper at the Hustler Club said A-Rod "likes the she-male, muscular type." (http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2007/05/31/2007-05-31_as_wife_packs_up_is_arod_out_at_home.html)

I bet he does.

[Dan 'Hampton]

A petite stripper at the Hustler Club said A-Rod "likes the she-male, muscular type." (http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2007/05/31/2007-05-31_as_wife_packs_up_is_arod_out_at_home.html)

I bet he does.

I had to check that link to see if it was true. Truely funny stuff. You all know that if the Yankees were playing well as a team the Post would never have sent a reporter to spy on Arod. These beat reporters have a good idea of whats going on in the clubhouse, who's good guys and who's a dick. But they usually keep this under their hat untill the player leaves and then even at that point it's usually a veiled reference. I don't think it's cool what he or the "reporter" did.

"likes the she-male, muscular type."
I figured he was concieted but this is insane.

[crb1]

A petite stripper at the Hustler Club said A-Rod "likes the she-male, muscular type." (http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2007/05/31/2007-05-31_as_wife_packs_up_is_arod_out_at_home.html)

I bet he does.

Are you implying A-Rod is having an affair with David Wright?

[Justice4all]

With the money A-Rod makes he could afford to BUY his own strip club for crying out loud.

[A.J.]

This isn't good enough for A-Rod?

http://www.nydailynews.com/img/2007/05/31/amd_cynthiarodriguez.jpg

If you want to fuck around then don't ever get married.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

A petite stripper at the Hustler Club said A-Rod "likes the she-male, muscular type." (http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2007/05/31/2007-05-31_as_wife_packs_up_is_arod_out_at_home.html)


Wouldnt that Make him Gay-Rod, hahahhahaahhaha Im the First person ever to call him that

[Jujubees2]

While I agree that it's nobody's business what A-Rod does on his time but that play at third base is Bush League all the way. I teach my little leaguers to put their heads down and run with two outs. If any of my players tried that crap, they would be on the bench next to me.

And if it was an isolated incident that would be one thing. But with his history (swiping at Bronson Arroyo's glove in 2004, the elbow last week to Pedroia, etc.).

[crb1]

While I agree that it's nobody's business what A-Rod does on his time but that play at third base is Bush League all the way. I teach my little leaguers to put their heads down and run with two outs. If any of my players tried that crap, they would be on the bench next to me.

And if it was an isolated incident that would be one thing. But with his history (swiping at Bronson Arroyo's glove in 2004, the elbow last week to Pedroia, etc.).

My little league coach taught us to play like Ty Cobb. And by that I mean we bet on the games and went into the stands to beat wheelchair-bound, elderly black men.

[HBox]

My little league coach taught us to play like Ty Cobb. And by that I mean we bet on the games and went into the stands to beat wheelchair-bound, elderly black men.

My little league coach taught me to play like Elijah Dukes. YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKER!!!! I'LL KILL YOU AND YOUR WHOLE FAMILY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Crippler]

My little league coach taught me to play like Elijah Dukes. YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKER, DAWG!!!! I'LL KILL YOU DAWG, AND YOUR WHOLE FAMILY, DAWG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fixed

[HBox]

Giambi's out for at least a month. In other news, my brain is about to acquaint itself with a drill. Goodbye cruel world.

[Bulldogcakes]

Giambi's out for at least a month. In other news, my brain is about to acquaint itself with a drill. Goodbye cruel world.

Now hold on here. I'd agree that I was and still am bummed about Hughes being out. I was looking forward to seeing him far more than Clemens. But Giambi is different.
Here's his #s for this year

AVG .262 | HR 7 | RBI 23 | OBP .380 | SLG .436

All below his career averages, that projects to 21 HRs, 69 RBIs for the season. The RBI total bothers me most. Its not enough to be a full time DH on a winning team. Be honest, he's been a drag on this team all year.

Now think about what this means. A roster spot opens up for some bench help which could be useful in the late innings or for an extra reliever. Damon is your full time DH, Melky plays center which is a HUGE upgrade defensively, plus when he's going well will give you similar OBP (.360 last year) to Giambi with more speed plus he's a switch hitter. Damon is banged up, so he'll likely be more productive out of the DH role.

Long story short, I think this moves the Yanks away from waiting for the 3 run HR and toward building runs and rallies. Which was what they did last year when Shef and Matsui went down. Remember last year? With Shef and Matsui in April and May they were way behind the RedSox. With Melky and Abreau they blew past them by late August. The #1 job they have right now is to get Abreau and Melky going. I think with steady playing time Melky will, and Abreau has been too good a hitter for too long to not turn it around. I think this moves them back to playing the way they did mid-late last year, and thats a good thing.

[7fttall500+]

I hope you are right Bulldog, I am just waiting till July 1 to see where they are at, then I will say they are done or not.

[lleeder]

A petite stripper at the Hustler Club said A-Rod "likes the she-male, muscular type." (http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2007/05/31/2007-05-31_as_wife_packs_up_is_arod_out_at_home.html)



The Daily News should really just close up shop when they go to strippers for quotes. Did she comment on this story before or after she rubbed her ass on a serial killers crotch?

[HBox]

Now think about what this means. A roster spot opens up for some bench help which could be useful in the late innings or for an extra reliever. Damon is your full time DH, Melky plays center which is a HUGE upgrade defensively, plus when he's going well will give you similar OBP (.360 last year) to Giambi with more speed plus he's a switch hitter. Damon is banged up, so he'll likely be more productive out of the DH role.

Long story short, I think this moves the Yanks away from waiting for the 3 run HR and toward building runs and rallies. Which was what they did last year when Shef and Matsui went down. Remember last year? With Shef and Matsui in April and May they were way behind the RedSox. With Melky and Abreau they blew past them by late August. The #1 job they have right now is to get Abreau and Melky going. I think with steady playing time Melky will, and Abreau has been too good a hitter for too long to not turn it around. I think this moves them back to playing the way they did mid-late last year, and thats a good thing.

Melky hasn't been good all year. Having his .200 average and zero power in the lineup everyday makes the marginal defensive improvements meaningless. Damon isn't playing horrible CF. This isn't Bernie out there. And Melky isn't struggling because of lack of playing time. He's gotten plenty. He should be improving from last year and he isn't. Because honestly, Melky's numbers last year were below average for an outfielder. That's he's gotten worse over such a long stretch is worrisome.

Last year the Yanks blew by the Red Sox in August when the Sox imploded with injuries. And again, this STILL isn't a small ball team. And it shouldn't be. If this means I'll be seeing Jeter and Abreu dropping down more bunts this team is not going to get better. They simply need to be more consistent. All this season at least one area of this team has been atrocious. It started out with the starters. They started playing well and the bullpen crapped out. Then the starters crapped out again. Then the pitching steadied and now half stinks. If everyone, or at least most, of the lineup can hit to their level at the same time this team will score runs. But replacing Giambi in the lineup with Melky does not help this team.

To sum up, the Yanks are struggling right now because Abreu, Melky, Damon, Giambi and until recently Cano were all not hitting. No amount of coaching or changes in philosophy will make this team win with that happening. They start hitting and everything else stays stable and this team will win.

[Bulldogcakes]

I always use the 98 Yanks as my gold standard. Here's something to remember

AL Team hitting leaders
Team OBP-Yanks#1
Team R/G Yanks#1
Team BB-Yanks#1
Team OPS-Yanks#1

Team HR-Yanks#4
Team SLG-Yanks#4

In the past few years the Yanks have been either #1 or #2 in HR's, and have still been either #1 or #2 in R/G. But its a more "feast or famine" type of hitting team, 8 runs one night and 2 the next and we've seen where that leads you in October. Point being, you can still score your runs and have a more efficient lineup by mixing in some singles and doubles hitters. Power teams are sexy, but they run hot and cold.

[Don Stugots]

The Daily News should really just close up shop when they go to strippers for quotes. Did she comment on this story before or after she rubbed her ass on a serial killers crotch?

during, i wanted my money back.

[Bulldogcakes]

Melky hasn't been good all year. Having his .200 average and zero power in the lineup everyday makes the marginal defensive improvements meaningless. Damon isn't playing horrible CF. This isn't Bernie out there. And Melky isn't struggling because of lack of playing time. He's gotten plenty. He should be improving from last year and he isn't. Because honestly, Melky's numbers last year were below average for an outfielder. That's he's gotten worse over such a long stretch is worrisome.

Last year the Yanks blew by the Red Sox in August when the Sox imploded with injuries. And again, this STILL isn't a small ball team. And it shouldn't be. If this means I'll be seeing Jeter and Abreu dropping down more bunts this team is not going to get better. They simply need to be more consistent. All this season at least one area of this team has been atrocious. It started out with the starters. They started playing well and the bullpen crapped out. Then the starters crapped out again. Then the pitching steadied and now half stinks. If everyone, or at least most, of the lineup can hit to their level at the same time this team will score runs. But replacing Giambi in the lineup with Melky does not help this team.

To sum up, the Yanks are struggling right now because Abreu, Melky, Damon, Giambi and until recently Cano were all not hitting. No amount of coaching or changes in philosophy will make this team win with that happening. They start hitting and everything else stays stable and this team will win.

If you dont think the Yanks were a MUCH better team with Abreau and Melky than they were with Shef and Matsui last year, I dont know what you were watching. And I mean watching, there are times you go past the #s and just use your eyes. I dont care if Bill James thinks its all just selective perception, its not. And the team's record proves it.

And if my memory serves me, Varitek was the only major injury they had before the August seres with the Yanks. Manny (knee), Ortiz (heart), and Paps (shoulder) all went down afterwards. I think Lester (cancer) was after also.

[Doctor Z]

Can we stop pretending like the rest of this season matters?
So what, Giambi's out. Maybe now we'll miss making the playoffs by 10 games instead of 9.

[Bulldogcakes]

Can we stop pretending like the rest of this season matters?
So what, Giambi's out. Maybe now we'll miss making the playoffs by 10 games instead of 9.

The Division's over, but the WC is at 7.5, which is doable. But until they get to .500, I'm not thinking about anything.

[HBox]

If you dont think the Yanks were a MUCH better team with Abreau and Melky than they were with Shef and Matsui last year, I dont know what you were watching. And I mean watching, there are times you go past the #s and just use your eyes. I dont care if Bill James thinks its all just selective perception, its not. And the team's record proves it.

And if my memory serves me, Varitek was the only major injury they had before the August seres with the Yanks. Manny (knee), Ortiz (heart), and Paps (shoulder) all went down afterwards. I think Lester (cancer) was after also.

But my POINT was that the Abreu and Melky of last year are MIA. Right now they are both awful. And quite frankly I am wondering if last year was a fluke with Melky. Abreu should come around eventually. But Melky's too young and inexperienced to expect that he will snap out of it, especially since he has sucked consistently all year long.

[spoon]

And Jason Phillips shoving Josh Phelps yesterday was all class, right?


Yah of course it was, because that's what I said right?

[spoon]

Oh come on! If one of the Blue Jay players did the same thing to the Yanks, you would've loved it.

Wrong.

[spoon]

If that was anyone but A-Rod, people would say "He taught a rookie a lesson" or something like that. But since its him, they want to call the league office for some reason.

The appropriate response from a veteran would be "Shit, I cant believe I fell for that".

You're serious huh? Incredible.

[spoon]

While I agree that it's nobody's business what A-Rod does on his time but that play at third base is Bush League all the way. I teach my little leaguers to put their heads down and run with two outs. If any of my players tried that crap, they would be on the bench next to me.

And if it was an isolated incident that would be one thing. But with his history (swiping at Bronson Arroyo's glove in 2004, the elbow last week to Pedroia, etc.).

Thank you.

[spoon]

My little league coach taught us to play like Ty Cobb. And by that I mean we bet on the games and went into the stands to beat wheelchair-bound, elderly black men.

Nice!

[HBox]

Yah of course it was, because that's what I said right?

No, but what Phillips did was worse and we heard nary a peep from you. And the Yanks didn't spend an hour crying to reporters afterward.

Nobody complains when outfielders pretend they lost the ball in the light or act as if they will catch a ball that they have no chance on to fool runners. Because players are smart enough not to fall for such foolishness. Most of them, anyway. Now if you will excuse me I'm going to play 52 pickup with a certain Toronto third baseman.

[Don Stugots]

ohhhh, 52 pick up? whats that?



heeheehee

[tupper65]

No, but what Phillips did was worse and we heard nary a peep from you. And the Yanks didn't spend an hour crying to reporters afterward.

Nobody complains when outfielders pretend they lost the ball in the light or act as if they will catch a ball that they have no chance on to fool runners. Because players are smart enough not to fall for such foolishness. Most of them, anyway. Now if you will excuse me I'm going to play 52 pickup with a certain Toronto third baseman.

Every player in every game is looking for some kind of advantage. Outfielders try to fool runners with fake catches, second basemen deke runners into sliding when there is no throw coming, it' s all part of the game. Did what A-Rod do break a rule in the "Great MLB Unwritten Rule Book", who knows. Was it bush league, sure, but if it wasn't A-Rod who did it, nobody would be talking about it. How about when all the players on the bench clear out of the way when an opposing catcher falls in while trying to catch a foul? So it's less of a sin to let someone crack their head open than shouting at a fielder trying to break his concentration? Even being a Yankee fan, I'm not blind to the fact that some of the stuff that A-Rod does rubs some people, including myself, the wrong way, but when your team is mired in a 5 game losing streak, tell me you don't want any advantage that you can get. I would be more pissed that a ballplayer on my team would allow himself to be shaken by something like that. After all, if it's a "bush league" play, than a "professional" should never fall for it.

[crb1]

Every player in every game is looking for some kind of advantage. Outfielders try to fool runners with fake catches, second basemen deke runners into sliding when there is no throw coming, it' s all part of the game. Did what A-Rod do break a rule in the "Great MLB Unwritten Rule Book", who knows. Was it bush league, sure, but if it wasn't A-Rod who did it, nobody would be talking about it. How about when all the players on the bench clear out of the way when an opposing catcher falls in while trying to catch a foul? So it's less of a sin to let someone crack their head open than shouting at a fielder trying to break his concentration? Even being a Yankee fan, I'm not blind to the fact that some of the stuff that A-Rod does rubs some people, including myself, the wrong way, but when your team is mired in a 5 game losing streak, tell me you don't want any advantage that you can get. I would be more pissed that a ballplayer on my team would allow himself to be shaken by something like that. After all, if it's a "bush league" play, than a "professional" should never fall for it.

If A-Rod yelled "Mine" or "I got it," or anything to that effect, technically it's against the Official MLB rule book. You can't interfere with a player fielding a ball, which I believe includes yelling something like that. If he just said "ha" (which is what he claimed), then I'm not so sure if that would be a violation.

Either way, the ump was right there and if he did yell "Mine," he should have been called out. Although, I've seen umps ignore the official rules before (knowingly or unknowingly).

[tupper65]

If A-Rod yelled "Mine" or "I got it," or anything to that effect, technically it's against the Official MLB rule book. You can't interfere with a player fielding a ball, which I believe includes yelling something like that. If he just said "ha" (which is what he claimed), then I'm not so sure if that would be a violation.

Either way, the ump was right there and if he did yell "Mine," he should have been called out. Although, I've seen umps ignore the official rules before (knowingly or unknowingly).

I hear ya, but, according to the rule book, interference or obstruction involves either physical contact with the player or the ball or physically "blocking" a fielder from making a play. Believe me, I'm an umpire and even though I'm only certified up to high school level, we had to study the same rule book that is used in the major leagues. There is no rule stating that a player can't shout or say anything. I don't think that the ump could have called him out

[crb1]

I hear ya, but, according to the rule book, interference or obstruction involves either physical contact with the player or the ball or physically "blocking" a fielder from making a play. Believe me, I'm an umpire and even though I'm only certified up to high school level, we had to study the same rule book that is used in the major leagues. There is no rule stating that a player can't shout or say anything. I don't think that the ump could have called him out

Apparently, neither of us is entirely correct:

Section 7.08 (b) He intentionally interferes with a thrown ball; or hinders a fielder attempting to make a play on a batted ball;
Rule 7.08(b) Comment: A runner who is adjudged to have hindered a fielder who is attempting to make a play on a batted ball is out whether it was intentional or not.

Attempting to hinder a fielder by yelling is not actually stated as interference, and physical contact is NOT required for the umpire to rule interference occurred. So, it was up to the ump to decide if interference occurred or not.

[7fttall500+]

But my POINT was that the Abreu and Melky of last year are MIA. Right now they are both awful. And quite frankly I am wondering if last year was a fluke with Melky. Abreu should come around eventually. But Melky's too young and inexperienced to expect that he will snap out of it, especially since he has sucked consistently all year long.

You are the type of Yankee Fan that I refer to as an idiot who panics way too much...you should think of baseball like the stock market, you dont sell cause of a few days of losses. Now I am not saying the Yankees are going to turn this around but you think too drastic. You have giving up on a young player because of a bad month (about how much playing time he has gotten)! If the team reverts to small ball and it works so what, HR mostly come off of mistake pitches and you cant just wait for that to happen sometimes you have to go make things happen. I am waiting till July 1st then I will decided to "panic" or not.

[7fttall500+]

Apparently, neither of us is entirely correct:

Section 7.08 (b) He intentionally interferes with a thrown ball; or hinders a fielder attempting to make a play on a batted ball;
Rule 7.08(b) Comment: A runner who is adjudged to have hindered a fielder who is attempting to make a play on a batted ball is out whether it was intentional or not.

Attempting to hinder a fielder by yelling is not actually stated as interference, and physical contact is NOT required for the umpire to rule interference occurred. So, it was up to the ump to decide if interference occurred or not.

There is NO way an ump is making that call on verbal interference!!!! It is as rare as not letting a batter take first because he didnt get out of the way of the pitch that hit him. This play reminds me of a middleinfielder fake tagging a runner when the ball is in play.

[crb1]

There is NO way an ump is making that call on verbal interference!!!! It is as rare as not letting a batter take first because he didnt get out of the way of the pitch that hit him. This play reminds me of a middleinfielder fake tagging a runner when the ball is in play.

True. My point was simply that the umpire does have the right to call interference if he sees fit. I have never heard of it actually happening in a game though.

[tupper65]

Apparently, neither of us is entirely correct:

Section 7.08 (b) He intentionally interferes with a thrown ball; or hinders a fielder attempting to make a play on a batted ball;
Rule 7.08(b) Comment: A runner who is adjudged to have hindered a fielder who is attempting to make a play on a batted ball is out whether it was intentional or not.

Attempting to hinder a fielder by yelling is not actually stated as interference, and physical contact is NOT required for the umpire to rule interference occurred. So, it was up to the ump to decide if interference occurred or not.

Yeah, I guess the act of "hindering" is a judgement call. To be honest, we never really covered yelling as a distraction in class. I guess that my point is that all of the rules cover the physical aspects of the game, and not any mental distractions. If I put myself in the umpires shoes for this call I would do exactly what he did, nothing. Because, if you think about it, if you outlaw what A-Rod did, then you have to outlaw players screaming things from the bench (which you know that they must do with foul balls near their dugout). I just feel that a player is responsible for the mental aspect of his own game

[crb1]

Yeah, I guess the act of "hindering" is a judgement call. To be honest, we never really covered yelling as a distraction in class. I guess that my point is that all of the rules cover the physical aspects of the game, and not any mental distractions. If I put myself in the umpires shoes for this call I would do exactly what he did, nothing. Because, if you think about it, if you outlaw what A-Rod did, then you have to outlaw players screaming things from the bench (which you know that they must do with foul balls near their dugout). I just feel that a player is responsible for the mental aspect of his own game

I agree. My original point (based on a column I had read) was that if A-Rod had tried to interfere by yelling "Mine," it's against the rules and he could have been called out. However, it seems as though it's not EXACTLY against the rules. It can technically be interference, but I can't imagine an ump calling this considering some of the crap that most likely is said during the games. So, I basically racked up 4 posts that amounted to nothing in the end.

[7fttall500+]

I agree. My original point (based on a column I had read) was that if A-Rod had tried to interfere by yelling "Mine," it's against the rules and he could have been called out. However, it seems as though it's not EXACTLY against the rules. It can technically be interference, but I can't imagine an ump calling this considering some of the crap that most likely is said during the games. So, I basically racked up 4 posts that amounted to nothing in the end.

NO you didnt I was agreeing with you and just trying to give more info to prove your point.

[RingWraith]

Wrong.


Okay......DENIAL!!!!!

[tupper65]

NO you didnt I was agreeing with you and just trying to give more info to prove your point.

I thought it was fun. Who doesn't like talkin' baseball.

[crb1]

I thought it was fun. Who doesn't like talkin' baseball.

It was fun, with the exception of reading the MLB rule book. zzzzzzzzzz...

In other Yankee news, here's an unnamed scout's view of the Yankees.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2007/06/01/2007-06-01_not_a_good_team.html

There are some solid points here, with the highlight being the scout's appraisal of Bobby Abreu:

'"It looks like he's never played the game before in his life." Having watched several Yankees games during the past month, the scout can't figure out how Abreu has dropped off as severely as he has this season.

"I'm as confused as you are; he looks like a piece of garbage,"'


I would have to agree.

[tupper65]

Interesting article. I agree with most of what he was saying, but I can't agree that only having 4 or 5 "scary" bats in the lineup is not enough to contend. Yes, Abreau has dropped off the map and they definitely need another bat to take Giambi's spot in the lineup, but he didn't mention the most glaring problem...the bullpen. There are at least 10 games that the bullpen has blown so far this season. With the starting pitching in a better place now, the bats will start coming around, but we 3/5 of our staff being 6 inning pitchers, we need that bridge to Mo if we're gonna get anywhere.

[7fttall500+]

Notice how the 4 yankees that scout doesnt fear are lefties....hmmm

[HBox]

You are the type of Yankee Fan that I refer to as an idiot who panics way too much...you should think of baseball like the stock market, you dont sell cause of a few days of losses. Now I am not saying the Yankees are going to turn this around but you think too drastic. You have giving up on a young player because of a bad month (about how much playing time he has gotten)! If the team reverts to small ball and it works so what, HR mostly come off of mistake pitches and you cant just wait for that to happen sometimes you have to go make things happen. I am waiting till July 1st then I will decided to "panic" or not.

Idiot who panics too much? What the hell? Where have I said that I have given up on the season? Melky has gotten lots of playing time. He was an everyday player for a month while Matsui was out and during that time he was even worse than his numbers are now. He was batting under .200. Why would you expect Melky to improve? he's too young to know anything. And last year his numbers weren't great. they were barely average for an outfielder and he showed no power.

Don't assume that because I'm not sure that one player is going to produce that I'm panicing or have given up.

[Tenbatsuzen]

A petite stripper at the Hustler Club said A-Rod "likes the she-male, muscular type." (http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2007/05/31/2007-05-31_as_wife_packs_up_is_arod_out_at_home.html)

I bet he does.

From a stripper's POV, that could mean anyone who eats.

Or it could mean Kiana Tom.

Or it could mean Joanie Laurer.

2 out of 3 ain't bad.

[HBox]

I'm disappointed by the disappearance of Wang's power mullet.

[Kevin]

Fucking midas touch dumb as dogshit


LEAVE MENKY AT 1ST!!!!!

[HBox]

Fucking midas touch dumb as dogshit


LEAVE MENKY AT 1ST!!!!!

You wanted Mientkievicz off the team a month ago.

[Kevin]

You wanted Mientkievicz off the team a month ago.


Correction sir.. I wanted Phelps out.. I said at least Menky gives D.. Phelps does not give you even that..

[Bulldogcakes]

Don't Ya Know!!!!

[HBox]

If they could somehow convince Cano that every game is a road game.

[Kevin]

Maybe the Yankees can get a 2b for home and let Robby only hit on the road.. He hits so much better on the road...

[Kevin]

Way to go cap!!!

[HBox]

Cano on the road: .349 avg, .900 OPS

Cano at home: .283 avg, .750 OPS

Hall of Fame on the road, average at home.

[HBox]

More stellar managing from Torre. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2890628)

Even Joe Torre says Alex Rodriguez (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5275) was out of line. The New York Yankees (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nyy) manager concluded A-Rod shouldn't have distracted a Toronto fielder this week during a popup, joining a chorus of baseball people who said the two-time AL MVP broke the sport's unwritten code.

He went on to advise that if an opposing pitcher has a no-hitter going A-Rod really shouldn't try for a hit. Nobody wants hurt feelings.

[Bulldogcakes]

More stellar managing from Torre. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2890628)



He went on to advise that if an opposing pitcher has a no-hitter going A-Rod really shouldn't try for a hit. Nobody wants hurt feelings.

THANK YOU!!

You know, we'd rather lose than try to win the 'wrong way'.
-We won't drop a bunt down on a Schilling who cant move in 2004
-We wont pitch up and in on Manny and Ortiz
-Our hitters are treated like pin cushions and no one ever retaliates


I guess we should give back the 78 trophy, since Reggie stuck his hip out.

[Bulldogcakes]

Cano on the road: .349 avg, .900 OPS

Cano at home: .283 avg, .750 OPS

Hall of Fame on the road, average at home.

Is that just this year? That stat might be reflective of their schedule since he snapped out of his slump, which was recently.

If not, might explain his #s in clutch situations.

[Kevin]

This inning should fucking be over already.. Another bad call against us... Umps doing a stellar job this year

[HBox]

Is that just this year? That stat might be reflective of their schedule since he snapped out of his slump, which was recently.

If not, might explain his #s in clutch situations.

No, that's career splits.

[Kevin]

Matsui is doing JACK SHIT!!! at the 3rd spot.. Keep him there Torre.. GREAT MANAGING!!


Where was Arod fucking going??

[HBox]

They didn't mean to do that but I'm going to pretend they did.

[Tenbatsuzen]

HBox - love the new sig. Is that your Torre special?

[Kevin]

Fucking Wang has not been great this year..

[HBox]

HBox - love the new sig. Is that your Torre special?

No, no. Why should he be fired because this team sucks balls? An old man like him would have nothing to fill up the hours of his day and I wouldn't want that.

I've taken his whole "Let's be a doormat to the world" philosophy to heart.

[HBox]

Fucking Wang has not been great this year..

He's never been great vs. the Red Sox. In addition to that he didn't hit his stride last year until June last year. He was pretty average the first two months. Maybe with the late start to his season its taking him a little more time to get in a groove. I really hope so.

[Bulldogcakes]

The Melk Man delivers!!!

5-3 Yanks, Wakefield has absolutely nothing.

[Kevin]

Finish this for me BDC




HIP HIP

[Bulldogcakes]

JORGE!

With Wang on the mound 9-3, that should be the game right there.
With Torre making the pitching changes, who knows.

[HBox]

JORGE!

With Wang on the mound, that should be the game right there.
With Torre making the pitching changes, who knows.

He's probably already on the phone with Cashman seeing if it's too late to call up Chase Wright to do some long relief.

[Bulldogcakes]

He's probably already on the phone with Cashman seeing if it's too late to call up Chase Wright to do some long relief.

This one gets close, you'll hit 10K by 10:00

Be careful, you're 9 posts away. Don't blow it like Sheepy. Make it a good one.

[Kevin]

More Stellar Umping!!!

[HBox]

CAN WE GET ONE FUCKING RIGHT CALL ON A CLOSE STOLEN BASE ONCE THIS FUCKING SEASON!!

[Kevin]

CAN WE GET ONE FUCKING RIGHT CALL ON A CLOSE STOLEN BASE ONCE THIS FUCKING SEASON!!

CLOSE?????

WHAT CLOSE??

[Bulldogcakes]

I like the fact that Melky's taking his walks. Good sign.

One of the things I was most impressed about him last year was his good eye and OBP for a young player. He seemed to be swinging at everything early this year, could be a sign he's coming out of it.

[Kevin]

Robby, and Bobby also..

[Kevin]

WAS THAT LIFE OUT OF TORRE????



Wow!!!!

[HBox]

WAS THAT LIFE OUT OF TORRE????



Wow!!!!

I missed it. What happened?

[TheGameHHH]

Wang leaves this game up 9-3......please dont shit on him

Also, the Yanks have actually won 2 in a row...........who wants to find a way to shit on Torre and say he blew the past 2 games somehow?

[HBox]

Wang leaves this game up 9-3......please dont shit on him

Also, the Yanks have actually won 2 in a row...........who wants to find a way to shit on Torre and say he blew the past 2 games somehow?

They haven't won this one yet.

[Kevin]

I missed it. What happened?

He got into a huge argument with the 3rd base ump during the pitching change.. Got chucked.. He was the most animated i have seen in years.. Cursing and pointing.. It was pretty damn cool.

[TheGameHHH]

youre right.........but even if they dont win this, its neither Wang's nor Torre's fault

[Bulldogcakes]

youre right.........but even if they dont win this, its neither Wang's nor Torre's fault

Do we give them credit if they win?

[HBox]

Do we give them credit if they win?

Everybody gets hugs and kisses and a big basket of teddy bears and kittens if they win. If they lose, no kittens.