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reillyluck

01-27-2007, 02:57 PM

Smoking weed or Drinking?I have a friend who drinks a lot, i mean a lot.  Yet,  she talks about people who smoke weed like they are crackheads!  I know all you buddays can give your honest opinion.  So what is it?

BoondockSaint

01-27-2007, 02:59 PM

They are equal.

Kevin

01-27-2007, 03:00 PM

Drinking by far.... You never really hear pot heads causing a fight in a bar or anywhere else... I would rather sit with a bunch of pot heads than drunks any day.

Team_Ramrod

01-27-2007, 03:01 PM

Which one is legal?????  Either way, a kick to the junk trumps all

reillyluck

01-27-2007, 03:13 PM

i just dont understand how people can bash pot but down a 12 pack and have an alcoholic rage, but thats ok.

sailor

01-27-2007, 03:17 PM

reillyluck wrote: i just dont understand how people can bash pot but down a 12 pack and have an alcoholic rage, but thats ok.   and then curse out new mods.  i see where this is going...  :)

reillyluck

01-27-2007, 03:18 PM

sailor wrote: reillyluck wrote: i just dont understand how people can bash pot but down a 12 pack and have an alcoholic rage, but thats ok.   and then curse out new mods.  i see where this is going...  <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" width="15" height="15" /> are you saying hes a "she"?  tisk tisk.

ChrisTheCop

01-27-2007, 03:21 PM

reillyluck wrote: i just dont understand how people can bash pot but down a 12 pack and have an alcoholic rage, but thats ok.   hang out with me on groundhog's day and youll understand, padawan. I agree that theyre about the same actually, but most of us see the drunks more often than the high people, so it bothers us more. But I think I'd rather talk to a pothead than a drunk. Drunk women are so annoying, and stonettes are  so oddly attractive to me. I dont look at either drinking or smoking as evil; At my retirement dinner, I plan to do both.

Team_Ramrod

01-27-2007, 03:27 PM

ChrisTheCop wrote: reillyluck wrote: i just dont understand how people can bash pot but down a 12 pack and have an alcoholic rage, but thats ok.   hang out with me on groundhog's day and youll understand, padawan. I agree that theyre about the same actually, but most of us see the drunks more often than the high people, so it bothers us more. But I think I'd rather talk to a pothead than a drunk. Drunk women are so annoying, and stonettes are  so oddly attractive to me. I dont look at either drinking or smoking as evil; At my retirement dinner, I plan to do both. See Chris, this is where I differ from you. I'd sooner encounter a drunk chick; They're much, muuch easier.And Reilly, a drunken rage pales in comparison to a roid rage.....

Drunky McBetidont

01-27-2007, 03:28 PM

sailor

01-27-2007, 03:28 PM

reillyluck wrote: sailor wrote: reillyluck wrote: i just dont understand how people can bash pot but down a 12 pack and have an alcoholic rage, but thats ok.   and then curse out new mods. i see where this is going... <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" width="15" height="15" /> are you saying hes a "she"? tisk tisk.  i assumed it was a typo, or some clever subterfuge to throw us off the scent.  or "hey babe, take a walk on the wild side"

reillyluck

01-27-2007, 03:29 PM

ChrisTheCop wrote: reillyluck wrote: i just dont understand how people can bash pot but down a 12 pack and have an alcoholic rage, but thats ok.   hang out with me on groundhog's day and youll understand, padawan. I agree that theyre about the same actually, but most of us see the drunks more often than the high people, so it bothers us more. But I think I'd rather talk to a pothead than a drunk. Drunk women are so annoying, and stonettes are  so oddly attractive to me. I dont look at either drinking or smoking as evil; At my retirement dinner, I plan to do both. my brother is a police officer so i completely understand.  his worse encounters have been with people who are drunk.  i love to have a few drinks, doesnt make you a bad person. yes pot is illegal but its illegal for rediculous reasons. just my opinion.  it just frustrates me that she is a great person up until the moment she drinks.  once the buzz gets going its hell!!!

reillyluck

01-27-2007, 03:30 PM

sailor wrote: reillyluck wrote: sailor wrote: reillyluck wrote: i just dont understand how people can bash pot but down a 12 pack and have an alcoholic rage, but thats ok.  and then curse out new mods. i see where this is going... <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" width="15" height="15" /> are you saying hes a "she"? tisk tisk.  i assumed it was a typo, or some clever subterfuge to throw us off the scent.  or "hey babe, take a walk on the wild side" and Thats one of the reason why i heart sailor!!

sailor

01-27-2007, 03:32 PM

reillyluck wrote: ChrisTheCop wrote: reillyluck wrote: i just dont understand how people can bash pot but down a 12 pack and have an alcoholic rage, but thats ok.   hang out with me on groundhog's day and youll understand, padawan. I agree that theyre about the same actually, but most of us see the drunks more often than the high people, so it bothers us more. But I think I'd rather talk to a pothead than a drunk. Drunk women are so annoying, and stonettes are so oddly attractive to me. I dont look at either drinking or smoking as evil; At my retirement dinner, I plan to do both. my brother is a police officer so i completely understand. his worse encounters have been with people who are drunk. i love to have a few drinks, doesnt make you a bad person. yes pot is illegal but its illegal for rediculous reasons. just my opinion. it just frustrates me that she is a great person up until the moment she drinks. once the buzz gets going its hell!!!   when i worked front desk at the hotel, the worst was dealing with drunks at 3 a.m.  not being a cop i couldn't even get away with clubbing them like a baby seal.  cops have all the fun!

sailor

01-27-2007, 03:33 PM

reillyluck wrote: sailor wrote: reillyluck wrote: sailor wrote: reillyluck wrote: i just dont understand how people can bash pot but down a 12 pack and have an alcoholic rage, but thats ok.  and then curse out new mods. i see where this is going... <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" width="15" height="15" /> are you saying hes a "she"? tisk tisk. i assumed it was a typo, or some clever subterfuge to throw us off the scent. or "hey babe, take a walk on the wild side" and Thats one of the reason why i heart sailor!! aww shucks!

reillyluck

01-27-2007, 03:36 PM

The Midnight Ramrod wrote: See Chris, this is where I differ from you. I'd sooner encounter a drunk chick; They're much, muuch easier.And Reilly, a drunken rage pales in comparison to a roid rage.....oh no question about it.  i know someone who did both. not a pretty site i must say.

shittyhambrgers

01-27-2007, 03:38 PM

alcohol is worse. pot is illegal for racist reasons (ie the notion from the 1920s & '30s that mexicans in the southwest, and blacks in the south will rape young white women, and commit more crimes while high). it was further perpetuated by the fact that pot grew all over the US during that time, and if pot was widely available, the thought was that it would be used by said minorities and thus destroy the country.the benefits of marijuana, like other plants, are many, especially in the realm of diminishing pain in such places as the head, stomach, and menstrual cramps. it also helps stimulate the appetite of aids and cancer patients, not to mention eases pain caused by glucoma and arthritis.additionally, as others have said, you don't see people getting into fist fights while smoking pot. plus, it's not physically addictive.  finally, it makes you feel reeeeally nice. which is worse? alcohol, by far. 

This message was edited by shittyhambrgers on 1-27-07 @ 7:41 PM

sailor

01-27-2007, 03:42 PM

shittyhambrgers wrote: alcohol is worse. pot is illegal for racist reasons (ie the notion from the 1920s & '30s that mexicans in the southwest, and blacks in the south will rape young white women, and commit more crimes while high). it was further perpetuated by the fact that pot grew all over the US during that time, and if pot was widely available, the thought was that it would be used by said minorities and thus destroy the country.the benefits of marijuana, like other plants, are many, especially in the realm of diminishing pain in such places as the head, stomach, and menstrual cramps. it also helps stimulate the appetite of aids and cancer patients, not to mention eases pain caused by glucoma and arthritis.additionally, as others have said, you don't see people getting into fist fights while smoking pot. plus, it's not physically addictive. finally, it makes you feel reeeeally nice. which is worse? alcohol, by far. This message was edited by shittyhambrgers on 1-27-07 @ 7:41 PM um, yeah i agree it should be legal, but wasn't alcohol illegal in the 20s and 30s as well?  i just don't buy the racial implications.

cougarjake13

01-27-2007, 03:46 PM

reillyluck wrote: Smoking weed or Drinking?I have a friend who drinks a lot, i mean a lot.  Yet,  she talks about people who smoke weed like they are crackheads!  I know all you buddays can give your honest opinion.  So what is it? im gonna take a different angle then the ones i see postedwhen i read your above statement i took it as whats worse as in whats worse for your body whereas everyone seemed to take it as whats worse person to deal with, drunk or high ??now i dont know the correct answer for my angle but i would imagine that its somewhat equal depending on personal use but what would detoriate quicker ??your liver or your lungs ???

reillyluck

01-27-2007, 03:48 PM

America's first marijuana law was enacted at Jamestown Colony, Virginia in 1619. It was a law "ordering" all farmers to grow Indian hempseed. There were several other "must grow" laws over the next 200 years (you could be jailed for not growing hemp during times of shortage in Virginia between 1763 and 1767), and during most of that time, hemp was legal tender (you could even pay your taxes with hemp -- try that today!) Hemp was such a critical crop for a number of purposes (including essential war requirements - rope, etc.) that the government went out of its way to encourage growth.

shittyhambrgers

01-27-2007, 03:52 PM

sailor wrote: shittyhambrgers wrote: alcohol is worse. pot is illegal for racist reasons (ie the notion from the 1920s & '30s that mexicans in the southwest, and blacks in the south will rape young white women, and commit more crimes while high). it was further perpetuated by the fact that pot grew all over the US during that time, and if pot was widely available, the thought was that it would be used by said minorities and thus destroy the country.the benefits of marijuana, like other plants, are many, especially in the realm of diminishing pain in such places as the head, stomach, and menstrual cramps. it also helps stimulate the appetite of aids and cancer patients, not to mention eases pain caused by glucoma and arthritis.additionally, as others have said, you don't see people getting into fist fights while smoking pot. plus, it's not physically addictive. finally, it makes you feel reeeeally nice. which is worse? alcohol, by far. This message was edited by shittyhambrgers on 1-27-07 @ 7:41 PM um, yeah i agree it should be legal, but wasn't alcohol illegal in the 20s and 30s as well? i just don't buy the racial implications. <a href="http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/studies/vlr/vlr2.htm">http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/studies/vlr/vlr2.htm</a> - The Genesis of Marihuana Prohibition  <a href="http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/studies/vlr/vlr3.htm">http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/studies/vlr/vlr3.htm</a> - Passage of the Uniform Narcotic Drug Act: 1927-1937 <a href="http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/studies/vlr/vlr4.htm">http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/studies/vlr/vlr4.htm</a> - Passage of the Marihuana Tax Act of 1937  <a href="http://www.reefermadness.org/propaganda/kidax.html ">http://www.reefermadness.org/propaganda/kidax.html</a> - Anslinger’s 1937 article “Assassin Of Youth”i dont expect you to believe 1 website, but given the amount of citations there... seems fairly official.

Death Metal Moe

01-27-2007, 03:53 PM

Drinking is far worse.  It's pointless, makes you act like a complete douche bag, can get people to hate you and you can't fake being sober.Pot isn't for me but you can do things while high on it.I know plenty of people who have ruined their lives with alchohol, but can't really think of a single one who was made more than lazy with pot.

reillyluck

01-27-2007, 03:54 PM

cougarjake13 wrote: reillyluck wrote: Smoking weed or Drinking?I have a friend who drinks a lot, i mean a lot.  Yet,  she talks about people who smoke weed like they are crackheads!  I know all you buddays can give your honest opinion.  So what is it? im gonna take a different angle then the ones i see postedwhen i read your above statement i took it as whats worse as in whats worse for your body whereas everyone seemed to take it as whats worse person to deal with, drunk or high ??now i dont know the correct answer for my angle but i would imagine that its somewhat equal depending on personal use but what would detoriate quicker ??your liver or your lungs ???you can look at it both ways.  but my question leans more towards physically.

reillyluck

01-27-2007, 04:04 PM

and its only illegal if you get caught.  <img src="/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/tongue.gif" border="0" width="20" height="20" />

sailor

01-27-2007, 04:07 PM

shittyhambrgers wrote: sailor wrote: shittyhambrgers wrote: alcohol is worse. pot is illegal for racist reasons (ie the notion from the 1920s & '30s that mexicans in the southwest, and blacks in the south will rape young white women, and commit more crimes while high). it was further perpetuated by the fact that pot grew all over the US during that time, and if pot was widely available, the thought was that it would be used by said minorities and thus destroy the country.the benefits of marijuana, like other plants, are many, especially in the realm of diminishing pain in such places as the head, stomach, and menstrual cramps. it also helps stimulate the appetite of aids and cancer patients, not to mention eases pain caused by glucoma and arthritis.additionally, as others have said, you don't see people getting into fist fights while smoking pot. plus, it's not physically addictive. finally, it makes you feel reeeeally nice. which is worse? alcohol, by far. This message was edited by shittyhambrgers on 1-27-07 @ 7:41 PM um, yeah i agree it should be legal, but wasn't alcohol illegal in the 20s and 30s as well? i just don't buy the racial implications. <a href="http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/studies/vlr/vlr2.htm">http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/studies/vlr/vlr2.htm</a> - The Genesis of Marihuana Prohibition  <a href="http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/studies/vlr/vlr3.htm">http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/studies/vlr/vlr3.htm</a> - Passage of the Uniform Narcotic Drug Act: 1927-1937 <a href="http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/studies/vlr/vlr4.htm">http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/studies/vlr/vlr4.htm</a> - Passage of the Marihuana Tax Act of 1937  <a href="http://www.reefermadness.org/propaganda/kidax.html">http://www.reefermadness.org/propaganda/kidax.html</a> - Anslinger’s 1937 article “Assassin Of Youth”i dont expect you to believe 1 website, but given the amount of citations there... seems fairly official. plus that one site is a pro-marijuana site.  it's kinda like cypress hill putting in their liner notes how wonderful a crop hemp is and all the great things you can do with it, when you know all they cared about was smoking up.  :)  my question, if it was for fear of how blacks/mexicans would act when high, why wouldn't that same thinking be carried over to alcohol?

reillyluck

01-27-2007, 04:10 PM

lets not turn the thread into why marijuana should be legal.  focus on why she's being a complete ass.

sailor

01-27-2007, 04:12 PM

reillyluck wrote: lets not turn the thread into why marijuana should be legal. focus on why she's being a complete ass. that whore!!

sailor

01-27-2007, 04:12 PM

better?

reillyluck

01-27-2007, 04:13 PM

much much better!

sailor

01-27-2007, 04:15 PM

i aim to please!

DonInNC

01-27-2007, 04:41 PM

Both are good in moderation. Maybe she's deflecting her self loathing onto weed smokers.

shittyhambrgers

01-27-2007, 04:42 PM

alcohol is the white man's drug, everyone knows that.just to amend this... my buddy just called and i'm leaving to party like the white man.  CYA! 

This message was edited by shittyhambrgers on 1-27-07 @ 8:46 PM

sailor

01-27-2007, 04:46 PM

shittyhambrgers wrote: alcohol is the white man's drug, everyone knows that. nobody told the indians.

SatCam

01-27-2007, 05:08 PM

WHAT'S WORSE???

whichever helps you temporarily escape your problems better

sailor

01-27-2007, 05:16 PM

i'd like to take a moment here to point out what a total bitch reilly's friend is.  stupid bitch!!

Gvac

01-27-2007, 06:35 PM

Believe me when I say I'm not getting up on a soap box and preaching, but I think the real question is why people drink or smoke weed.  If it's something they need in order to relax or face themselves then it's a real problem.  It took me a long time to realize that drinking and drug use is quite often a form of self-medication, and people who rely on the buzz to cure whatever is bothering them never deal with the real underlying issue.  I'm not saying everyone who has a drink or two here and there or smokes a joint once in awhile is an addict, I'm just wondering how many people have ever questioned their reliance and altered behavior when they're partying.

Midkiff

01-27-2007, 06:39 PM

Kevin wrote: Drinking by far.... You never really hear pot heads causing a fight in a bar or anywhere else... I would rather sit with a bunch of pot heads than drunks any day. The only problem is that at some point you'll hear the neverending slow speech about how it should be legalized. Not dangerous, but boring.

reillyluck

01-27-2007, 06:50 PM

Gvac wrote: Believe me when I say I'm not getting up on a soap box and preaching, but I think the real question is why people drink or smoke weed.  If it's something they need in order to relax or face themselves then it's a real problem.  It took me a long time to realize that drinking and drug use is quite often a form of self-medication, and people who rely on the buzz to cure whatever is bothering them never deal with the real underlying issue.  I'm not saying everyone who has a drink or two here and there or smokes a joint once in awhile is an addict, I'm just wondering how many people have ever questioned their reliance and altered behavior when they're partying.  youre right.  i guess in the case of my friend, she has a lot of issues.  i think thats why she drinks the way she does.  she's a bright girl.  works full time.  i guess you would call her a weekend warrior.  she does drink during the week a lot too.  but its not drunk, its more like drowning in booze.  the past couple of times it just got worse.  the last conversation i had with her was today while she was sober.  she started bashing one of our friends because she didnt want to hang out with her because she wanted to smoke a bowl before they went out.  she got mad and totally ditched her, then tells me that she doesnt understand why people smoke because its a terrible drug and people who do it dont understand the severity of it in the long run.  im saying to myself "you gotta be kidding me".  i told her that people who live in glass house shouldnt throw stones.  (i gotta put that in the bad sayings thread by the way...lol)i smoke.  i do it because i like to.  not because im hiding some deep dark history that i try to forget.  i may occasionally forget where i put my keys, but thats about it.  <img src="/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/happy.gif" border="0" width="20" height="20" />

weekapaugjz

01-27-2007, 06:59 PM

reillyluck wrote: i just dont understand how people can bash pot but down a 12 pack and have an alcoholic rage, but thats ok.  wait, i downed a twelver last night and smoked some bowls.  does that make me a bad person?

weekapaugjz

01-27-2007, 07:02 PM

sailor wrote: shittyhambrgers wrote: alcohol is the white man's drug, everyone knows that. nobody told the indians. you took the words right out of my mouth...

reillyluck

01-27-2007, 07:02 PM

weekapaugjz wrote: reillyluck wrote: i just dont understand how people can bash pot but down a 12 pack and have an alcoholic rage, but thats ok.  wait, i downed a twelver last night and smoked some bowls.  does that make me a bad person?no thats even stevens.  <img src="/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/happy.gif" border="0" width="20" height="20" />

Drunky McBetidont

01-27-2007, 07:14 PM

reillyluck wrote: lets not turn the thread into why marijuana should be legal.  focus on why she's being a complete ass. sometimes people that are having personal problems project their issues onto others.  she is a sloppy drunk so your friend is bad cause she smokes dope.  i used to have a friend that cheated on his beautiful wife all the time and i used to tell people that judged him that he was what he was; accept him or dont. people are what they are, it is the people that don't like or at least accept what  they are that have problems.  tell her to do a couple bongs of northern lights and call me in the morning.

Drunky McBetidont

01-27-2007, 07:23 PM

Gvac wrote: Believe me when I say I'm not getting up on a soap box and preaching, but I think the real question is why people drink or smoke weed.  If it's something they need in order to relax or face themselves then it's a real problem.  It took me a long time to realize that drinking and drug use is quite often a form of self-medication, and people who rely on the buzz to cure whatever is bothering them never deal with the real underlying issue.  I'm not saying everyone who has a drink or two here and there or smokes a joint once in awhile is an addict, I'm just wondering how many people have ever questioned their reliance and altered behavior when they're partying.  i went to a treatment facility in 1991, i was 20 years old.  i hung out with friends of bill w and did the step arobic thing for 8 years.  i have been off the wagon for the last 7 going on 8 years and it has presented the occasional conflict with the wife (as we met and married while i was sober) but she is a bright lady and i usually drink and stuff when i am away from her and the kids (which is five days a week)  I like to drink.  I hate pills and opiates; they make me sick.  i like herbal things.  i don't panic when it is organic.  i don't drive drunk or under any influence.  i have a job that is not forgiving to criminal mischief.  i guess what i am trying to say here, gvac, is that i have lived a crazy-out-of-control life, a life led by good orderly direction, and a life that blurs the line and i hope that doesn't make me a bad person.

walking joint

01-27-2007, 07:34 PM

are either really bad?  i enjoy both.  and to me having neither is the worst of the 3 options.

A.J.

01-28-2007, 08:52 AM

Smoking weed.Not because it's illegal but because nobody else puts their filthy mouth on my beer bottle the way they do on a joint/bowl/bong.