WSX

[OralForTheChef]

Just saw the first episode.  Looks very innovative.  Definitely a departure from old school wrestling.  Seems to fit well with the youtube generation.  Crazy stunts and whatnot.  I dig it so far.

[RingWraith]

<p>Well it certainly is different.&nbsp; And now I hear it will compete against (fake)ECW&nbsp;on Tuesdays.&nbsp; Well let's hope it does well.&nbsp; I just wish it wasn't on MTV though.</p><p>Oh and didn't anyone find it hilarious that they had guys landing on &quot;electrical and exploding&quot; fences.&nbsp; Yeah it's way over the top, but it does look cool visually.&nbsp; More like something you'd see in a video game.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[cougarjake13]

<p>when is it on ???</p><p>i think the craziness factor will draw viewers at first but if they dont develop decent storylines it wont keep me interested for long</p>

[WNEWstinks]

Iliked the first show. It is much different from the other stuff, but that's good.

I love the new wrestlers and the fast pace wrestling. can't wait for the next show.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Good to see some indy guys getting some national tv face time.&nbsp; I was surprised they mentioned their histories in other feds.

[ponelas park townie]

<p>In case you've been waiting for an emo tag team...</p><p><img src="http://a984.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/24/l_33a16a216ffded0facb7bdb7dec34037.jpg" border="0" width="388" height="367" /></p><p>Here is D.I.F.H. (Do It For Her)</p>

[asayresk]

A bit cheesy but i will still wacth it cause its only 30 minutes.

[dereckfishboy]

<strong>ponelas park townie</strong> wrote:<br /><p>In case you've been waiting for an emo tag team...</p><p><img src="http://a984.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/24/l_33a16a216ffded0facb7bdb7dec34037.jpg" border="0" width="388" height="367" /></p><p>Here is D.I.F.H. (Do It For Her)</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&lt;sigh&gt;.......</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I hang my flag at half-mast for this generation......&nbsp;</p>

[OralForTheChef]

<p>It was definitely over the top with the explosions and electric fences.&nbsp; I see they have a pirrahna tank set up next to the ring next week, so I guess that's the direction they're going for.&nbsp; I thought it was cool to see matches with guys who weren't all built like Batista.&nbsp; The battle royal was very cool.&nbsp; Nice touch having it before the WWE's rumble.&nbsp; I don't see this brand being big on storylines.&nbsp; Hell, all but one of the guys seemed like heels.&nbsp; </p>

[newport king]

glad to see vampiro again. i liked what i saw...all except for x/6 pac.

[K.C.]

<p>Premeire (even though they specially&nbsp;debuted it last Friday) episode is on right now. </p><p>Thank god they're throwing this up against ECW...I hope it buries it once and for all.</p>

[Notorious_JC]

it was really cheesey, and it was just way over the top.ÿ it'll do good with the mtv generation, but thats it.ÿ all this show is gonna be is a big spot machine, it can enver compete with wwe or tna. and as far as burying ecw, vince is probably gonna pull the plug before wsx xan beat it.

[K.C.]

<strong>Notorious_JC</strong> wrote:<br />it was really cheesey, and it was just way over the top.&nbsp; it'll do good with the mtv generation, but thats it.&nbsp; all this show is gonna be is a big spot machine, it can enver compete with wwe or tna. and as far as burying ecw, vince is probably gonna pull the plug before wsx xan beat it. <p>It's only 30 minutes an episode, though. </p><p>It pretty much dictates the show has to be way over the top with a lot of spots since there's not much time to develop matches or angles. </p><p>It'll be interesting to see if it does well ratings wise if MTV gives it at least a full hour. At any rate, I'd much rather watch this than Vince's ECW at this point.</p>

[RingWraith]

<strong>K.C.</strong> wrote: <p>It's only 30 minutes an episode, though. </p><p>It pretty much dictates the show has to be way over the top with a lot of spots since there's not much time to develop matches or angles. </p><p>It'll be interesting to see if it does well ratings wise if MTV gives it at least a full hour. At any rate, I'd much rather watch this than Vince's ECW at this point.</p><p>Agreed.&nbsp; I haven't watched &quot;fake ECW&quot; in months!!!&nbsp; Even though it is over the top,&nbsp; I like it.&nbsp; It's waaaay more&nbsp;entertaining and I hope it sticks around for a while.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[burrben]

<p>i like it. it's the only place to see a member of the hart family.</p><p>i love &quot;1-2-3 kid gimmick + x-pac gimmick = 6-pac gimmick&quot;</p>

[walking joint]

i liked it.&nbsp; i could care less if its a big spotfest...i enjoy them.&nbsp;i didn't see the whole thing, but the announcing seemed horrible from what i remember.

[ponelas park townie]

teddy hart's the only hart on tv.. until wwe puts nattie neidhart in a &quot;happy easter ky jelly lingerie porno match&quot; on raw.

[willisjackson]

I watched the first show and was impressed.&nbsp; I hope they blow ECW out of the water.&nbsp;

[ralphbxny]

I have to say they need more time. The matches are fast and they are more stunt man than wrestlers. They sell the sizzle and do it well. Hope it improves but its ok!

[Bossanova]

For anyone interested the second show is airing tonight at 11:00 on mtv

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Bossanova</strong> wrote:<br />For anyone interested the second show is airing tonight at 11:00 on mtv <p>thanks for the heads up </p>

[Doctor Z]

I just watched it, and New Jack was in it, and it was the shit.&nbsp; Looks extremely edited though.&nbsp; They blatantly sized it down for time constraints.&nbsp; Better wrestling than WWE though... which isn't hard to do these days.

[Bossanova]

No problem budday

[OralForTheChef]

<p>WSX apparently put up a pretty ratings number for a debut show (according to wrestlezone.com) and the WWE is trying like hell to sign the WSX guys.&nbsp; </p>

[Bossanova]

<p>Friggin figures.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Bossanova on 2-3-07 @ 11:36 AM</span>

[cougarjake13]

<p>saw the first episode with the 10 man wsx battle royal, not bad</p><p>but did anyone not think they there was no way that it wouldnt be 6 pac and vampiro ???</p><p>maybe new jack and justin credible had possible shots but i just had a feeling it would be them</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>so who won the match between 6 pac and vampiro ???</p>

[TheWalkingDead]

<p class="MsoNormal">WSX is basically a revamped version of XPW and the Socal wrestling scene.&nbsp; XPW was Rob Black's attempt at starting a west coast version of ECW (he even ran a show in the old ECW Arena) but failed after the feds busted him for some porn flicks that he produced.&nbsp; The old XPW booker Kevin Klienrock is apparently co-booking the show and his past shows show that he defiantly has a passion for the business and does good work.&nbsp; The roster mostly consists of SoCal indy guys and from what I understand the shows were already taped last November and were waiting for MTV to pick the show up.&nbsp; I'm just excited to see another alternative on TV since TNA has dropped the ball and well the new ECW...ech!</p>

[Fallon]

<hr color="cococo" align="left"></font><strong>walking joint</strong> wrote:<br>but the announcing seemed horrible from what i remember.<hr color="cococo" align="left"><p></p>
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[K.C.]

<p>The commentary sounds really disjointed like video game commentary. </p><p>Still, the action's been pretty good so far. Much better than ECW these last two weeks. </p><p>In fact, Vince is supposedly so scared of WSX that he shifted Dusty Rhodes from writing Smackdown to writing ECW now, and it's why he's been appearing on the show, and put an ECW Title match on RAW this week to give it exposure. </p><p>The problem is that he may think he's making an effort, but he's still not giving the fans what they want as far as ECW goes. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>And when RVD leaves, and lingering life it had in it is dead. </p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>K.C.</strong> wrote:<br /><p>The commentary sounds really disjointed like video game commentary. </p><p>Still, the action's been pretty good so far. Much better than ECW these last two weeks. </p><p>In fact, Vince is supposedly so scared of WSX that he shifted Dusty Rhodes from writing Smackdown to writing ECW now, and it's why he's been appearing on the show, and put an ECW Title match on RAW this week to give it exposure. </p><p>The problem is that he may think he's making an effort, but he's still not giving the fans what they want as far as ECW goes. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>And when RVD leaves, and lingering life it had in it is dead. </p><p>why would he be more scared of wsx, they dont have much star power but i guess they have the cringe factor</p>

[K.C.]

<p>He's more concerned with WSX because it goes head to head with ECW on Tuesday Nights and has debuted pulling about a 1.0 rating</p><p>ECW averages about 1.5. So there's not much difference. </p><p>The second reason is, he knows ECW is a very weak program at the moment. </p><p>The third is WSX being on MTV automatically puts them in competition with WWE for the same audience, because there's a lot of crossover between WWE fans and the MTV prime-time shows. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Although, the last thing I read about this whole thing is that Vince wants to pull the plug on ECW anyway and is just waiting out their TV contract with Sci-Fi. </p>

[cougarjake13]

its sad but ECW has never lived up to what it once was, mainly due to vince himself and like a poster had said, it was probably his way of officially killing it but sucking every last dollar out of it

[K.C.]

<p>ECW is ultimately going to go down as a failure,&nbsp;because Vince didn't understand how to run it.</p><p>He thought he could take the popularity of the name and the built in fan base that comes with it and redefine it into a WWE style production. </p><p>It didn't work because the original ECW fans are very particular about the legacy of ECW, and the WWE fans haven't been given anything close to a quality WWE product with the show so far to give them a reason to watch. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>If ECW was going to succeed, they should have set up tapings twice a month in Philadelphia at the New Alhambra arena, similar to how TNA tapes down in Orlando. </p><p>You set it up with the hot Philly crowd and tape the show there for a few months to get the show established, then move to some the regional ECW hotspots like Hammerstein Ballroom and some of the places in Jersey, and then expand it national over time. </p>

[RingWraith]

<strong>K.C.</strong> wrote:<br /><p>ECW is ultimately going to go down as a failure, because Vince didn't understand how to run it.</p><p>He thought he could take the popularity of the name and the built in fan base that comes with it and redefine it into a WWE style production. </p><p>It didn't work because the original ECW fans are very particular about the legacy of ECW, and the WWE fans haven't been given anything close to a quality WWE product with the show so far to give them a reason to watch. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>If ECW was going to succeed, they should have set up tapings twice a month in Philadelphia at the New Alhambra arena, similar to how TNA tapes down in Orlando. </p><p>You set it up with the hot Philly crowd and tape the show there for a few months to get the show established, then move to some the regional ECW hotspots like Hammerstein Ballroom and some of the places in Jersey, and then expand it national over time. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Sadly, all of what you said makes &quot;Too Much Sense&quot; for Vince to understand.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[K.C.]

I'm amazed at how much I actually have enjoyed watching this show the last three weeks considering the only emotion I feel when watching RAW and ECW these days is immense loathing.

[led37zep]

I'm watching WSX right now...its horrible.&nbsp; I've only watched one match so far and pretty let down.&nbsp; It was the match between the el hombre guy and the mean street posse wanna be...just horrible.&nbsp; Timing was way off on every major move.

[cougarjake13]

it isnt great but the extracirruculars they have going on around the ring make it a lil easier to watch

[ralphbxny]

I still hold to my original statement...they need more time...too much in too short a time.

[J.Clints]

<p>I caught it for the first time today. I agreee its a bit over the top but I enjoy it. Just more wrestling to watch. And hey Its got Xpac.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Oppss&nbsp; 6pac sorry for the excitment</p>

[OralForTheChef]

Apparenlty MTV has pulled a storyline where someone throws a fireball at Vampiro's face, which has made them have to pull some shows off the air.&nbsp; (according to wrestlezone)&nbsp;

[Bossanova]

Just a reminder, 10:30 tonight.

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Bossanova</strong> wrote:<br />Just a reminder, 10:30 tonight. <p>totally forgot thans for the reminder </p>

[Fallon]

<p><font face="verdana" size="2"><em><strong>PWInsider.com</strong> is citing a MTV network source in reporting that Wrestling Society X was pulled from the network's lineup.<br /><br />The network reportedly made the call to pull the show Wednesday; the most recent airing of the show posted a low 0.6 rating.<br /><br />Wrestling Society X, which combined fast-paced wrestling action with music, was promoted as an alternative to WWE and TNA programming. After showing some ratings promise in its debut, its numbers quickly declined, bottoming out at a 0.5 for the penultimate airing.<br /><br />MTV will definitely not renew the series, but it could potentially air the remaining episodes at a later date. No details have been announced regarding any such plans.</em></font></p><p>My guess is you'll see the rest on MTV2. I don't care for the show at all.</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Phallon on 2-28-07 @ 11:58 PM</span>

[Dash77]

<strong>K.C.</strong> wrote:<br /><p>ECW is ultimately going to go down as a failure,&nbsp;because Vince didn't understand how to run it.</p><p>He thought he could take the popularity of the name and the built in fan base that comes with it and redefine it into a WWE style production. </p><p>It didn't work because the original ECW fans are very particular about the legacy of ECW, and the WWE fans haven't been given anything close to a quality WWE product with the show so far to give them a reason to watch. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>If ECW was going to succeed, they should have set up tapings twice a month in Philadelphia at the New Alhambra arena, similar to how TNA tapes down in Orlando. </p><p>You set it up with the hot Philly crowd and tape the show there for a few months to get the show established, then move to some the regional ECW hotspots like Hammerstein Ballroom and some of the places in Jersey, and then expand it national over time. </p><p>I agree with you, ECW can't keep running off of the smackdown show just to show a crowd.&nbsp; Vince needs to let it run loose, I miss the excitement of every match being an extreme match as they call it now, the best ECW show I ever saw was at the Woodbridge Armory I miss that ECW..</p>

[WintersEmbers]

<p>According to Big Vision Entertainment, which is the company that's running this shindig, they're just being removed from the Tuesday night lineup to find a better spot for the show. A lot of things could be the reasoning behind this, the fact that some people had just wrote it off as wrestling for crack addicts and won't give it a fair shake, causing the ratings to dip. The fact that there's a new team of brass at MTV and the guy that picked up the show got shit canned. Or they genuinely believe the show can do better on another night. I'm not certain which one I believe yet.</p><p>&nbsp;As far as all cases go, all this seasons ep's might get aired, and may make it to DVD, but don't hold your breath for season two. You can see the majority of these guys in PWG DVD's anyway, with a lot more time to work the ring I might add. <br /> </p>