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cupcakelove

01-11-2007, 06:27 AM

<a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/soccer/01/11/beckham.mls/index.html?cnn=yes" target="_blank">http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/soccer/01/11/beckham.mls/index.html?cnn=yes</a>Maybe this will bring some heat to US Soccer?  Probably not.

blakjeezis

01-11-2007, 06:38 AM

Good, now he and Alexei Lalas can be incredibly overrated together. I shouldn't say that; Beckham does at least have talent, and at some point could have been counted among the best in the world. Lalas was quite simply the worst player ever to receive an international cap. Embarrassingly bad.

nate1000

01-11-2007, 06:42 AM

Bop! Now he's mine.

hereintheUK

01-11-2007, 06:42 AM

The deal is said do be worth £130 million over 5 years.  That's around 250 million dollars US at the current exchange rate. Nice work if you can get it.

PapaBear

01-11-2007, 06:44 AM

hereintheUK wrote: The deal is said do be worth £130 million over 5 years.  That's around 250 million dollars US at the current exchange rate. Nice work if you can get it. HOOO HOOOO... Chump change!<img src="http://www.cantonrep.com/photos/2007/01/09stern.jpg" border="0" width="300" height="352" />

Freakshow

01-11-2007, 06:54 AM

How long before he is shilling wax paper?

Or starring in bad action movies.

hereintheUK

01-11-2007, 06:56 AM

How does it compare with other American sports stars? Contrary to what Eal said yesterday regarding Derek Jeter been a superstar in France. We really don't know too much about American sports in Europe.

SinA

01-11-2007, 07:00 AM

i guess that means we get this too<img src="http://hollywoodtuna.com/images/victoria_beckham_nipples_shop_2_small.jpg" border="0" width="196" height="279" /><img src="http://hollywoodtuna.com/images/victoria_beckham_profile_2_small.jpg" border="0" width="196" height="279" /><img src="http://www.johnberman.com/pics/funny/spooge.gif" border="0" width="448" height="272" />

sailor

01-11-2007, 07:00 AM

it's probably nothing but his press conference was cancelled.  i've heard it might just be delayed till later today.

Freakshow

01-11-2007, 07:14 AM

Goddamn it. How hard it is to eat a sandwitch? And if she's going to LA it means she'll be hanging out with Lindsay Lohan, Nicole Ritchie, or the Skinniest Olson Twin.

cupcakelove

01-11-2007, 07:15 AM

sailor wrote: it's probably nothing but his press conference was cancelled. i've heard it might just be delayed till later today.  Do you know how early it is in LA right now?  He's not on UK time anymore.

sailor

01-11-2007, 07:20 AM

cupcakelove wrote: sailor wrote: it's probably nothing but his press conference was cancelled. i've heard it might just be delayed till later today. Do you know how early it is in LA right now? He's not on UK time anymore. i just know an official, scheduled, mls press conference was cancelled.

sailor

01-11-2007, 07:24 AM

i've also heard claudio reyna will be signing with new york.

nate1000

01-11-2007, 07:38 AM

hereintheUK wrote: The deal is said do be worth £130 million over 5 years.  That's around 250 million dollars US at the current exchange rate. Nice work if you can get it. There is no way american soccer even grosses $250MM over the next five years.

nate1000

01-11-2007, 07:41 AM

SinA wrote: i guess that means we get this too<img src="http://hollywoodtuna.com/images/victoria_beckham_nipples_shop_2_small.jpg" border="0" width="196" height="279" /><img src="http://hollywoodtuna.com/images/victoria_beckham_profile_2_small.jpg" border="0" width="196" height="279" /><img src="http://www.johnberman.com/pics/funny/spooge.gif" border="0" width="448" height="272" /> Had her. Sucks in bed.

hereintheUK

01-11-2007, 07:53 AM

nate1000 wrote: hereintheUK wrote: The deal is said do be worth £130 million over 5 years. That's around 250 million dollars US at the current exchange rate. Nice work if you can get it. There is no way american soccer even grosses $250MM over the next five years. I assume the deal includes his Image rights.

sailor

01-11-2007, 07:54 AM

seems like it has already taken place, now.  hope it works well for the league.

Sheeplovr

01-11-2007, 07:55 AM

do we have ot bend it?

El Mudo

01-11-2007, 07:57 AM

EDIT: dammit...maybe i should read first?

This message was edited by El Mudo on 1-11-07 @ 11:58 AM

hereintheUK

01-11-2007, 08:07 AM

nate1000 wrote: hereintheUK wrote: The deal is said do be worth £130 million over 5 years. That's around 250 million dollars US at the current exchange rate. Nice work if you can get it. There is no way american soccer even grosses $250MM over the next five years. I think Real Madrid made back the money they paid for Beckham within a few weeks with people buying their Jerseys with his name on it. It's about Marketing and world wide the LA galaxy brand will become almost like the New York Yankees. People allover the world wear Yankees baseball caps and wouldn't be able to name one player in the history of the club. People will now be buying LA Galaxy merchandise and buy into the Brand Beckham thing.

Davios

01-11-2007, 08:19 AM

hereintheUK wrote: I think Real Madrid made back the money they paid for Beckham within a few weeks with people buying their Jerseys with his name on it. It's about Marketing and world wide the LA galaxy brand will become almost like the New York Yankees. People allover the world wear Yankees baseball caps and wouldn't be able to name one player in the history of the club. People will now be buying LA Galaxy merchandise and buy into the Brand Beckham thing.That is true, but Real Madrid is also the biggest soccer team in the world. People care about Real Madrid, as opposed to the LA Galaxy which no one cares about. Beckham isn't a completely terrible player, but Real Madrid has begun the process of shipping out washed-up expensive vets like Beckham and Ronaldo (who is also being sent off) and cultivating young south-american talent like Gago, Higuain, Marcelo, and Robinho. Beckham also simply wasn't good enough to start on Madrid anymore. For any big European club, he could be a valuable piece off the bench, but as a starter he simply isn't that good. Perhaps the saddest part of this whole thing is that Becks was dieing for Madrid to extend him, but instead they cut him loose. There was talk he had the option to go to Inter Milan which is the best club in Italy as well as one of the world's best, however, he would have been relegated to bench duty. Instead, he apparantly decided to make himself a nice chunk of change and extend his fame here in America. Personally, I don't see it. I don't think America, for the most part, gives a damn about Beckham unlike most of the world.

Fallon

01-11-2007, 08:23 AM

cupcakelove wrote: Beckham is ours now  <img src="http://static.stickam.com/media/video/converted/1700/2496/6/E507863A-E76B-11DA-AD70-F4A7242849F0.flv.jpg" border="0" width="480" height="360" />

Tall_James

01-11-2007, 08:27 AM

In a related story, Sporty Spice was spotted eating free samples at the food court of the Paramus Mall. <img src="http://www.readingfestivalonline.co.uk/images/actionaid/Mel%20C.jpg" border="0" width="394" height="591" />

sailor

01-11-2007, 08:33 AM

Davios wrote: hereintheUK wrote: I think Real Madrid made back the money they paid for Beckham within a few weeks with people buying their Jerseys with his name on it. It's about Marketing and world wide the LA galaxy brand will become almost like the New York Yankees. People allover the world wear Yankees baseball caps and wouldn't be able to name one player in the history of the club. People will now be buying LA Galaxy merchandise and buy into the Brand Beckham thing.That is true, but Real Madrid is also the biggest soccer team in the world. People care about Real Madrid, as opposed to the LA Galaxy which no one cares about. Beckham isn't a completely terrible player, but Real Madrid has begun the process of shipping out washed-up expensive vets like Beckham and Ronaldo (who is also being sent off) and cultivating young south-american talent like Gago, Higuain, Marcelo, and Robinho. Beckham also simply wasn't good enough to start on Madrid anymore. For any big European club, he could be a valuable piece off the bench, but as a starter he simply isn't that good. Perhaps the saddest part of this whole thing is that Becks was dieing for Madrid to extend him, but instead they cut him loose. There was talk he had the option to go to Inter Milan which is the best club in Italy as well as one of the world's best, however, he would have been relegated to bench duty. Instead, he apparantly decided to make himself a nice chunk of change and extend his fame here in America. Personally, I don't see it. I don't think America, for the most part, gives a damn about Beckham unlike most of the world. not at all true.  madrid had an offer on the table for weeks, beckham held out for more money and was exploring his options.  one of those options was mls which gave him a ton of money.  feel not sorry for the man.

Kevin

01-11-2007, 08:33 AM

The thing is that Kids in America play Soccer more than any other sport. Sure These players that are coming are has beens. But They will still be productive here. Maybe the kids who play watch the sport to watch these guys. The sports grows, we become better at it because more kids actually go further with it. So it has a decent chance of working. If we are ever competitive in Int play, this sport can grow here.

This message was edited by Kevin on 1-11-07 @ 12:34 PM

Furtherman

01-11-2007, 08:38 AM

I've seen this movie.<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0489247/" target="_blank">Once In A Lifetime: The Extraordinary Story of The New York Cosmos</a> Soccer is played in high school, college... then what?  Hey Mom, I'm going to be a professional soccer player!It'll be a flash in the pan with Beckham.  I doubt he'll even stay the five years.

Death Metal Moe

01-11-2007, 08:43 AM

Nothing in the world could make me give a shit about a sport more boring than Basketball.

hereintheUK

01-11-2007, 08:43 AM

Furtherman wrote: I've seen this movie.<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0489247/" target="_blank">Once In A Lifetime: The Extraordinary Story of The New York Cosmos</a> Soccer is played in high school, college... then what? Hey Mom, I'm going to be a professional soccer player!It'll be a flash in the pan with Beckham. I doubt he'll even stay the five years. This is the problem with Soccer in the US and is exacty the reason you are so far behind the rest of the world. I have talked about this before so don't want to sound like a broken record. (having said that...) These college kids are finishing up at what. 22? By that time the European and south American kids are 5 or 6 years infront of the US kids.We have a saying over here. "If you're good enough, You're old enough"

sailor

01-11-2007, 08:44 AM

Death Metal Moe wrote: Nothing in the world could make me give a shit about a sport more boring than Basketball. and they never seem to have any girls around...i think i read this thread already.  :)

Furtherman

01-11-2007, 09:13 AM

hereintheUK wrote:  These college kids are finishing up at what. 22? By that time the European and south American kids are 5 or 6 years infront of the US kids.We have a saying over here. "If you're good enough, You're old enough"   So when an American is graduating at 22, a European is 5 or 6 years infront .. by soccer means or schooling?  I'm not sure I understand what you mean by that.

Team_Ramrod

01-11-2007, 09:23 AM

This has been rumored for about 3 or so years. The thing behind it is that the Beckhams are HUGE all over the world, except for North America and they want to get more popularity over here. Probably for movies and shit. So this is a pretty big move but it was somewhat expected.Now I can read my wifes US magazine and Star magazine and see Victoria in some famous American landmarks. Maybe even a Brittney shot?

hereintheUK

01-11-2007, 10:59 AM

Furtherman wrote: hereintheUK wrote: These college kids are finishing up at what. 22? By that time the European and south American kids are 5 or 6 years infront of the US kids.We have a saying over here. "If you're good enough, You're old enough"  So when an American is graduating at 22, a European is 5 or 6 years infront .. by soccer means or schooling? I'm not sure I understand what you mean by that. Well the college system only applies in the US. In the rest of the world a 22 year old guy would have been playing soccer professionally in fhe top leagues for at least 4 years at this point in some cases if a player is good enough he will play in the first team at 16. A soccer player has a short career most retire in their early 30s, The American kids, because of the college system have missed out on almost a third it by the time they graduate. They are so far behind other players their same age it is almost inpossible to catch up.

Furtherman

01-11-2007, 11:04 AM

hereintheUK wrote: Well the college system only applies in the US. In the rest of the world a 22 year old guy would have been playing soccer professionally in fhe top leagues for at least 4 years at this point in some cases if a player is good enough he will play in the first team at 16. A soccer player has a short career most retire in their early 30s, The American kids, because of the college system have missed out on almost a third it by the time they graduate. They are so far behind other players their same age it is almost inpossible to catch up.Gotcha.

sailor

01-11-2007, 11:10 AM

hereintheUK wrote: Furtherman wrote: hereintheUK wrote: These college kids are finishing up at what. 22? By that time the European and south American kids are 5 or 6 years infront of the US kids.We have a saying over here. "If you're good enough, You're old enough"  So when an American is graduating at 22, a European is 5 or 6 years infront .. by soccer means or schooling? I'm not sure I understand what you mean by that. Well the college system only applies in the US. In the rest of the world a 22 year old guy would have been playing soccer professionally in fhe top leagues for at least 4 years at this point in some cases if a player is good enough he will play in the first team at 16. A soccer player has a short career most retire in their early 30s, The American kids, because of the college system have missed out on almost a third it by the time they graduate. They are so far behind other players their same age it is almost inpossible to catch up.   it's ironic that until recently the women's college game was better than any league in the world. women from around the world would come here just for the college competition.

Snacks

01-11-2007, 11:41 AM

wow can you say stupid, bad business? How can any athlete get paid $50 million a year? Everyone talks shit about Arod making $25 a year. But atleast thats for an american sport that makes billions a year and has the following to support it. Soccer is a non issue in America. I know someAmericans are stupid and will be buy into what is sold to them and may find Beckham attractive or worth talking about. But at the end of the day its soccer. Its too slow, no scoring, its hockey without the ice and pads. Has anyone noticed hockey has gone froma top4 sport to a niche sport in America?IMO no matter what this guy does it will not make mls popular. Sure ESPN may cover it more, but at the end of the day its too boring. It may be fun to play but boring as shit to watch. I wonder if he will be booed and have the same expectations that Arod has. He should bes making double and  is expected to create a sport and legue following/fans. He wont so let the missery for his wife and kids begin. It sucks, and its too much to expect from 1 person.

hereintheUK

01-11-2007, 11:45 AM

Heres the breakdown I just saw on Sky Sports news/ His yearly income from next season, when he leaves Spain for America, will be: #An annual salary of $10m #His existing sponsorship contracts with his four sponsors - Motorola, Pepsi, Gillette and Volkswagen - is estimated to be worth $25m #His merchandising shirt sales will bring in $10m #His share of the club profits: $10m That adds up to $55m. Multiply it by five and you get well over $275m.

Snacks

01-11-2007, 11:48 AM

hereintheUK wrote: Heres the breakdown I just saw on Sky Sports news/ His yearly income from next season, when he leaves Spain for America, will be: #An annual salary of $10m #His existing sponsorship contracts with his four sponsors - Motorola, Pepsi, Gillette and Volkswagen - is estimated to be worth $25m #His merchandising shirt sales will bring in $10m #His share of the club profits: $10m That adds up to $55m. Multiply it by five and you get well over $275m.I wonder what the avg salary is in the mls?

riverofpiss

01-11-2007, 11:56 AM

Death Metal Moe wrote: Nothing in the world could make me give a shit about a sport more boring than Basketball.Took the thoughts right out of my head.

hereintheUK

01-11-2007, 11:58 AM

Snacks wrote: hereintheUK wrote: Heres the breakdown I just saw on Sky Sports news/ His yearly income from next season, when he leaves Spain for America, will be: #An annual salary of $10m #His existing sponsorship contracts with his four sponsors - Motorola, Pepsi, Gillette and Volkswagen - is estimated to be worth $25m #His merchandising shirt sales will bring in $10m #His share of the club profits: $10m That adds up to $55m. Multiply it by five and you get well over $275m.I wonder what the avg salary is in the mls? I beleive the highest salary is $400,000 and each team has a salary cap of something like $1.8 million. The MLS have introduced something called the Beckham rule to entice players who can andvance the league.  

This message was edited by hereintheUK on 1-11-07 @ 3:59 PM

Team_Ramrod

01-11-2007, 11:58 AM

Snacks wrote: wow can you say stupid, bad business? How can any athlete get paid $50 million a year? Everyone talks shit about Arod making $25 a year. But atleast thats for an american sport that makes billions a year and has the following to support it. Soccer is a non issue in America. I know someAmericans are stupid and will be buy into what is sold to them and may find Beckham attractive or worth talking about. But at the end of the day its soccer. Its too slow, no scoring, its hockey without the ice and pads. Has anyone noticed hockey has gone froma top4 sport to a niche sport in America?IMO no matter what this guy does it will not make mls popular. Sure ESPN may cover it more, but at the end of the day its too boring. It may be fun to play but boring as shit to watch. I wonder if he will be booed and have the same expectations that Arod has. He should bes making double and  is expected to create a sport and legue following/fans. He wont so let the missery for his wife and kids begin. It sucks, and its too much to expect from 1 person.I don't think it's bad business... if I had the opportunity to be a GM I'd pay Alexi Yashin a 10 year 87 million dollar contract!It's all about timing and marketing, if done right it'd be worth it.Oh wait.... Bledsoe w/ Pats: 10 years 103 million... Griffey w/ Reds: 9 years 116 million... Garnett w/ Timberwolves 6 years 126 million.... Yashin w/ Islanders 10 years 87.5 million.... and of course.... A-rod w/ Rangers (Yankees) 10 years 252 million.I guess it may not be the best business practice!

tapedknuckles

01-11-2007, 12:01 PM

He'll be worth every penny to the league...Seasons tickets are selling like crazy in the other MLS cities since the announcement this morning. think Galaxy = Cosmos....

This message was edited by tapedknuckles on 1-11-07 @ 4:02 PM

hereintheUK

01-11-2007, 12:04 PM

hereintheUK wrote: Snacks wrote: hereintheUK wrote: Heres the breakdown I just saw on Sky Sports news/ His yearly income from next season, when he leaves Spain for America, will be: #An annual salary of $10m #His existing sponsorship contracts with his four sponsors - Motorola, Pepsi, Gillette and Volkswagen - is estimated to be worth $25m #His merchandising shirt sales will bring in $10m #His share of the club profits: $10m That adds up to $55m. Multiply it by five and you get well over $275m.I wonder what the avg salary is in the mls? I beleive the highest salary is $400,000 and each team has a salary cap of something like $1.8 million. The MLS have introduced something called the Beckham rule to entice players who can andvance the league.   This message was edited by hereintheUK on 1-11-07 @ 3:59 PM In fairness I don't think the $25million for endorsements should be included in this figure so in reality his salary from LA Galaxy is more like $30 million US.

sailor

01-11-2007, 12:07 PM

hereintheUK wrote: hereintheUK wrote: Snacks wrote: hereintheUK wrote: Heres the breakdown I just saw on Sky Sports news/ His yearly income from next season, when he leaves Spain for America, will be: #An annual salary of $10m #His existing sponsorship contracts with his four sponsors - Motorola, Pepsi, Gillette and Volkswagen - is estimated to be worth $25m #His merchandising shirt sales will bring in $10m #His share of the club profits: $10m That adds up to $55m. Multiply it by five and you get well over $275m.I wonder what the avg salary is in the mls? I beleive the highest salary is $400,000 and each team has a salary cap of something like $1.8 million. The MLS have introduced something called the Beckham rule to entice players who can andvance the league.   This message was edited by hereintheUK on 1-11-07 @ 3:59 PM In fairness I don't think the $25million for endorsements should be included in this figure so in reality his salary from LA Galaxy is more like $30 million US.   also, would he make the $10 mill for shirt sales if shirts don't sell?  and i imagine if there are no club profits he doesn't get the other $10 mill either.

hereintheUK

01-11-2007, 12:10 PM

He should sell $10 million worth of shirts. 400,000 shirts at $40 a pop comes to $8million. He has a proven track record when it comes to this kind of thing. He will pay for his salary through merchandising without a doubt.

This message was edited by hereintheUK on 1-11-07 @ 4:12 PM

sailor

01-11-2007, 12:13 PM

hereintheUK wrote: He should sell $10 million worth of shirts. 400,000 shirts at $40 a pop comes to $8million.  i'm not saying he won't, it's just not money the club has to worry about directly.

Doctor Z

01-11-2007, 12:29 PM

Guess what.   ...Still don't care about soccer.

Don Stugots

01-11-2007, 12:36 PM

i heard he is going to buy Cuba and reprint the money with his wifes tits on it

Fat_Sunny

01-11-2007, 12:41 PM

Fat Thinks That Beckham Would Be On The Short List Of A Straight Guy's "If You Had To Sleep With A Man To Save The World, Who Would It Be"?<img src="http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070110/capt.th10701101448.soccer_real_madrid_beckham_th10 7.jpg?x=380&y=274&sig=ltpcg9Nr2TfX2VuqNt6SbA--" border="0" width="380" height="274" />But Brett Favre Would Probably Be Number One On That List.And You Straight Guys Will Deny It, But You Know What Fat's Talkin' About!

Kevin

01-11-2007, 12:42 PM

You hear that sound?? Thats Beckham Laughing at Arod and his salary... HAHAHAHAH It took you 10 years to make 250 million.... HAHHAHAHA silly American.

Snacks

01-11-2007, 01:00 PM

Kevin wrote: You hear that sound?? Thats Beckham Laughing at Arod and his salary... HAHAHAHAH It took you 10 years to make 250 million.... HAHHAHAHA silly American. exactly, why do us Americans have to just buy everything we want. We are like kids in a candy store we just want everything, even if we dont like it or really need it.

Don Stugots

01-11-2007, 01:01 PM

lets move to canada.

Furtherman

01-11-2007, 01:06 PM

I got two words for you David: Robbie Williams

Dan 'Hampton

01-11-2007, 01:12 PM

I'm looking forward to seeing the specticle of him playing in Foxboro next year.  Plus the tickets are way cheaper than Pats tickets.

Snacks

01-11-2007, 01:14 PM

dschef wrote: I'm looking forward to seeing the specticle of him playing in Foxboro next year.  Plus the tickets are way cheaper than Pats tickets. that because the game is a lot shitier then a nfl game. I was going to use boringer but I dont think thats a word!!!

hereintheUK

01-11-2007, 01:16 PM

Snacks wrote: dschef wrote: I'm looking forward to seeing the specticle of him playing in Foxboro next year. Plus the tickets are way cheaper than Pats tickets. that because the game is a lot shitier then a nfl game. I was going to use boringer but I dont think thats a word!!!  Exactly. If there aint a commercial every five minutes i'm not interested.

Dan 'Hampton

01-11-2007, 01:31 PM

I enjoy Euro soccer much better than MLS.  obviously its a better game.  But i would be interested in seeing beckham there. GO Spurs

cougarjake13

01-11-2007, 03:55 PM

havent seen in mentioned in this thread yetsoccer will never fully succeed in this country, it may have its fleeting moments like with the cosmos and pele but there is just too much competition by other sportslook at our year round schedule baseball  feb to octoberfootball  august to febbasketball october to junehockey  november to june theres no breaks and then you have nascar which has grown tremendously in ratings and runs from feb to november, you also have golf which runs just as long as nascar, theres tennis, bowling, theres just too much to attract our attention

epo

01-11-2007, 04:42 PM

hereintheUK wrote: He should sell $10 million worth of shirts. 400,000 shirts at $40 a pop comes to $8million. He has a proven track record when it comes to this kind of thing. He will pay for his salary through merchandising without a doubt. This message was edited by hereintheUK on 1-11-07 @ 4:12 PM Exactly.  It's just good business on the part of the LA Galaxy.  The actual quality of soccer comes second.  Plus now for the first time in the history of the league they have a drawing card.  Who knows...maybe we'll finally kill of that fucking NASCAR!

Kevin

01-11-2007, 05:09 PM

When someone comes here at 24 i will see it as a big deal... for now its like the NY Rangers used to be... You go to retire,one, last big payday. We are like Japanese baseball. You go there because your either a hack and can't cut it in the big show, or your just old and still wanna play. 

This message was edited by Kevin on 1-11-07 @ 9:11 PM

Ritalin

01-11-2007, 05:14 PM

SinA wrote: i guess that means we get this too<img src="http://hollywoodtuna.com/images/victoria_beckham_nipples_shop_2_small.jpg" border="0" width="196" height="279" /><img src="http://hollywoodtuna.com/images/victoria_beckham_profile_2_small.jpg" border="0" width="196" height="279" /><img src="http://www.johnberman.com/pics/funny/spooge.gif" border="0" width="448" height="272" /> Maybe with some of that money he can get her nipples pointed in the same direction. She's like a fucking fly with those fake titties

epo

01-11-2007, 06:16 PM

Kevin wrote: When someone comes here at 24 i will see it as a big deal... for now its like the NY Rangers used to be... You go to retire,one, last big payday. We are like Japanese baseball. You go there because your either a hack and can't cut it in the big show, or your just old and still wanna play. This message was edited by Kevin on 1-11-07 @ 9:11 PM Name 1 player in the MLS better than Beckham.

Gvac

01-11-2007, 06:23 PM

epo wrote: Kevin wrote: When someone comes here at 24 i will see it as a big deal... for now its like the NY Rangers used to be... You go to retire,one, last big payday. We are like Japanese baseball. You go there because your either a hack and can't cut it in the big show, or your just old and still wanna play. This message was edited by Kevin on 1-11-07 @ 9:11 PM Name 1 player in the MLS <strike>better than Beckham</strike>. Fixed it for ya.

trackstand

01-11-2007, 06:26 PM

Maybe with some of that money he can get her nipples pointed in the same direction. She's like a fucking fly with those fake titties  sHE'LL WANNA WORK ON THOSE TOOTHPICKS FOR LEGS TOO!

Death Metal Moe

01-11-2007, 06:28 PM

Ritalin wrote: SinA wrote: i guess that means we get this too<img src="http://hollywoodtuna.com/images/victoria_beckham_nipples_shop_2_small.jpg" border="0" width="196" height="279" /><img src="http://hollywoodtuna.com/images/victoria_beckham_profile_2_small.jpg" border="0" width="196" height="279" /><img src="http://www.johnberman.com/pics/funny/spooge.gif" border="0" width="448" height="272" /> Maybe with some of that money he can get her nipples pointed in the same direction. She's like a fucking fly with those fake titties Also, how about eating a motherfucking sandwich honey?  It's so weird, when she was a Spice Girl she looked somewhat hot.  I guess it was the make up guys.But now, you can see how fucking overly skinny she is, and there's a weird quality to the shape of her face.  Kinda skull like.  I don't know, very weird.

This message was edited by Death Metal Moe on 1-11-07 @ 10:29 PM

lintpit

01-11-2007, 06:30 PM

250 million {inc. endorsements} over 5 years?!? Holy Crap. And for a sport that has little interest to most of America.Can I name a player in mls that is better than Beckham? Nope. Until now I couldn't name a player in mls.Guess he is earning his $$$ already.

epo

01-11-2007, 07:00 PM

lintpit wrote: 250 million {inc. endorsements} over 5 years?!? Holy Crap. And for a sport that has little interest to most of America.Can I name a player in mls that is better than Beckham? Nope. Until now I couldn't name a player in mls.Guess he is earning his $$$ already. Exactly.  Now the MLS has created interest in their league domestically & internationally.  How many casual domestic sports fans (and with Beckham---soccer moms) are gonna watch & attend the games now (at least once)?  This opens up for a greater TV contract, greater merchandising, et al.  Now that the rules have changed they can start to pay their players...domestic kids might start to choose soccer over baseball/football/basketball.  How many kids will be wearing a Beckham jersey in the next 12 months?  The MLS has also opened themselves to other big international names coming to the states.  Edgar Davids, the brilliant Dutch midfielder is already coming to Dallas this season.  With higher talent comes a more exciting & more high scoring game.  It may not be everyone's cup of tea, but this easily "the move" that will at least put American soccer on the radar.  And as blasphemous as this sounds....David Beckham could be the Babe Ruth of American Soccer.

Kevin

01-11-2007, 07:03 PM

<span style="border: 0pt none ; margin: 0pt; padding: 0pt; background: transparent none repeat scroll 0% 50%; font-family: serif; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; font-size: 100%; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; position: static; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial; text-align: left; text-indent: 0pt; text-transform: none; color: red; text-decoration: underline; cursor: pointer">Gvac wrote: <span style="border: 0pt none ; margin: 0pt; padding: 0pt; background: transparent none repeat scroll 0% 50%; font-family: serif; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; font-size: 100%; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; position: static; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial; text-align: left; text-indent: 0pt; text-transform: none; color: red; text-decoration: underline; cursor: pointer">epo wrote: Kevin wrote: When someone comes here at 24 i will see it as a big deal... for now its like the NY Rangers used to be... You go to <span style="border: 0pt none ; margin: 0pt; padding: 0pt; background: transparent none repeat scroll 0% 50%; font-family: serif; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; font-size: 100%; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; position: static; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial; text-align: left; text-indent: 0pt; text-transform: none; color: red; text-decoration: underline; cursor: pointer">retire,one, last big payday. We are like Japanese baseball. You go there because your either a hack and can't cut it in the big show, or your just old and still wanna play. This message was edited by Kevin on 1-11-07 @ 9:11 PM Name 1 player in the MLS <strike>better than <span style="border: 0pt none ; margin: 0pt; padding: 0pt; background: transparent none repeat scroll 0% 50%; font-family: serif; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; font-size: 100%; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; position: static; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial; text-align: left; text-indent: 0pt; text-transform: none; color: red; text-decoration: underline; cursor: pointer">Beckham</strike>. Fixed it for ya.  EXACTLY!

Snacks

01-11-2007, 07:28 PM

Death Metal Moe wrote: Ritalin wrote: SinA wrote: i guess that means we get this too<img src="http://hollywoodtuna.com/images/victoria_beckham_nipples_shop_2_small.jpg" border="0" width="196" height="279" /><img src="http://hollywoodtuna.com/images/victoria_beckham_profile_2_small.jpg" border="0" width="196" height="279" /><img src="http://www.johnberman.com/pics/funny/spooge.gif" border="0" width="448" height="272" /> Maybe with some of that money he can get her nipples pointed in the same direction. She's like a fucking fly with those fake titties Also, how about eating a motherfucking sandwich honey?  It's so weird, when she was a Spice Girl she looked somewhat hot.  I guess it was the make up guys.But now, you can see how fucking overly skinny she is, and there's a weird quality to the shape of her face.  Kinda skull like.  I don't know, very weird.This message was edited by Death Metal Moe on 1-11-07 @ 10:29 PM I think she is sexy as can be. I like petite women. Just keep doing what your doing baby!!!

JamMaster

01-11-2007, 11:59 PM

nate1000 wrote: hereintheUK wrote: The deal is said do be worth £130 million over 5 years.  That's around 250 million dollars US at the current exchange rate. Nice work if you can get it. There is no way american soccer even grosses $250MM over the next five years.I was thinking the same thing.  He is getting paid 50 mil a year salary.  No pro athlete (in the US) gets anywhere near that now (endorsements don't count).  European soccer players is a different story.  The only way they got Beckham was to pay him that much.Good for him...maybe MLS will get more respect in the soccer world now...I doubt it though.EDIT: After reading the other posts...I was misinformed on the stucture of his salary.  Endorsements are a huge part of his compensation....I think my point is mute at this time.

This message was edited by JamMaster on 1-12-07 @ 4:05 AM

Doctor Z

01-12-2007, 01:52 AM

She has boney old-lady legs.  Her thighs are the size of a fat man's wrist.

sailor

01-12-2007, 02:48 AM

Doctor_Z wrote: She has boney old-lady legs. Her thighs are the size of a fat man's wrist. sounds like they're right where they need to be.

sailor

01-12-2007, 03:02 AM

cougarjake13 wrote: havent seen in mentioned in this thread yetsoccer will never fully succeed in this country, it may have its fleeting moments like with the cosmos and pele but there is just too much competition by other sportslook at our year round schedule baseball feb to octoberfootball august to febbasketball october to junehockey november to june theres no breaks and then you have nascar which has grown tremendously in ratings and runs from feb to november, you also have golf which runs just as long as nascar, theres tennis, bowling, theres just too much to attract our attention   this is a silly argument.  we have all these sports that overlap, so we can't have a sport that overlaps them!  i follow all of those sports and have no problem making time for soccer.  and for snacks, large money purchases like this take place all the time in every league in soccer.  normally when players transfer from one team to another while still under contract (when more in their prime) the team receives multi-million dollar transfer fee.  they effectively sell the players for cash, straight-up.  it's not americans feeling the need to go out and buy things.  manchester united received between $40 and $50 million when beckham left for madrid (depending on exchange rate used).

Jujubees2

01-12-2007, 06:10 AM

Sheeplovr wrote: do we have ot bend it? Sure, you can bend it like Beckham but just don't break it like Mikey D.  Cause then it'll start to swell up an get filled with blood and puss and start oozing, right Earl?Earl?Earl?

cougarjake13

01-12-2007, 02:16 PM

sailor wrote: cougarjake13 wrote: havent seen in mentioned in this thread yetsoccer will never fully succeed in this country, it may have its fleeting moments like with the cosmos and pele but there is just too much competition by other sportslook at our year round schedule baseball feb to octoberfootball august to febbasketball october to junehockey november to june theres no breaks and then you have nascar which has grown tremendously in ratings and runs from feb to november, you also have golf which runs just as long as nascar, theres tennis, bowling, theres just too much to attract our attention   this is a silly argument.  we have all these sports that overlap, so we can't have a sport that overlaps them!  i follow all of those sports and have no problem making time for soccer.  and for snacks, large money purchases like this take place all the time in every league in soccer.  normally when players transfer from one team to another while still under contract (when more in their prime) the team receives multi-million dollar transfer fee.  they effectively sell the players for cash, straight-up.  it's not americans feeling the need to go out and buy things.  manchester united received between $40 and $50 million when beckham left for madrid (depending on exchange rate used). yes but my point was that most americans follow all of the 4 major sports as well as the secondary ones and yes some people like you may make time for soccer but most americans born here in this country dont follow soccertheres just too much on our tv viewing plate

sailor

01-12-2007, 03:28 PM

cougarjake13 wrote: sailor wrote: cougarjake13 wrote: havent seen in mentioned in this thread yetsoccer will never fully succeed in this country, it may have its fleeting moments like with the cosmos and pele but there is just too much competition by other sportslook at our year round schedule baseball feb to octoberfootball august to febbasketball october to junehockey november to june theres no breaks and then you have nascar which has grown tremendously in ratings and runs from feb to november, you also have golf which runs just as long as nascar, theres tennis, bowling, theres just too much to attract our attention   this is a silly argument. we have all these sports that overlap, so we can't have a sport that overlaps them! i follow all of those sports and have no problem making time for soccer. and for snacks, large money purchases like this take place all the time in every league in soccer. normally when players transfer from one team to another while still under contract (when more in their prime) the team receives multi-million dollar transfer fee. they effectively sell the players for cash, straight-up. it's not americans feeling the need to go out and buy things. manchester united received between $40 and $50 million when beckham left for madrid (depending on exchange rate used). yes but my point was that most americans follow all of the 4 major sports as well as the secondary ones and yes some people like you may make time for soccer but most americans born here in this country dont follow soccertheres just too much on our tv viewing plate  there's never too much on tv.  and most people wouldn't really count hockey as big 4 either (sadly, another one i love).

cougarjake13

01-12-2007, 03:31 PM

sailor wrote: cougarjake13 wrote: sailor wrote: cougarjake13 wrote: havent seen in mentioned in this thread yetsoccer will never fully succeed in this country, it may have its fleeting moments like with the cosmos and pele but there is just too much competition by other sportslook at our year round schedule baseball feb to octoberfootball august to febbasketball october to junehockey november to june theres no breaks and then you have nascar which has grown tremendously in ratings and runs from feb to november, you also have golf which runs just as long as nascar, theres tennis, bowling, theres just too much to attract our attention  this is a silly argument. we have all these sports that overlap, so we can't have a sport that overlaps them! i follow all of those sports and have no problem making time for soccer. and for snacks, large money purchases like this take place all the time in every league in soccer. normally when players transfer from one team to another while still under contract (when more in their prime) the team receives multi-million dollar transfer fee. they effectively sell the players for cash, straight-up. it's not americans feeling the need to go out and buy things. manchester united received between $40 and $50 million when beckham left for madrid (depending on exchange rate used). yes but my point was that most americans follow all of the 4 major sports as well as the secondary ones and yes some people like you may make time for soccer but most americans born here in this country dont follow soccertheres just too much on our tv viewing plate  there's never too much on tv.  and most people wouldn't really count hockey as big 4 either (sadly, another one i love). yeh but theres prob more people watching hockey than soccer

phixion

01-12-2007, 03:35 PM

yeh but theres prob more people watching hockey than soccer there are way more spanish folk in this country than candiens...see what i did?

cougarjake13

01-12-2007, 03:52 PM

phixion wrote: yeh but theres prob more people watching hockey than soccer there are way more spanish folk in this country than candiens...see what i did?well donebut if that was true why isnt it reflected in the tv ratings

phixion

01-12-2007, 03:57 PM

but if that was true why isnt it reflected in the tv ratings telemundo and univision? thats my guess.

Dan 'Hampton

01-12-2007, 04:25 PM

Univision is the #5 Network on TV. Not too bad at all.  With the influx of imigrants you know its going to climb.  The fact this thread is still going is a good sign for MLS.

cougarjake13

01-13-2007, 05:56 AM

but is beckham enough to get people in the seats and to watch on tv ???

Davios

01-13-2007, 12:12 PM

sailor wrote: Davios wrote: hereintheUK wrote: I think Real Madrid made back the money they paid for Beckham within a few weeks with people buying their Jerseys with his name on it. It's about Marketing and world wide the LA galaxy brand will become almost like the New York Yankees. People allover the world wear Yankees baseball caps and wouldn't be able to name one player in the history of the club. People will now be buying LA Galaxy merchandise and buy into the Brand Beckham thing.That is true, but Real Madrid is also the biggest soccer team in the world. People care about Real Madrid, as opposed to the LA Galaxy which no one cares about. Beckham isn't a completely terrible player, but Real Madrid has begun the process of shipping out washed-up expensive vets like Beckham and Ronaldo (who is also being sent off) and cultivating young south-american talent like Gago, Higuain, Marcelo, and Robinho. Beckham also simply wasn't good enough to start on Madrid anymore. For any big European club, he could be a valuable piece off the bench, but as a starter he simply isn't that good. Perhaps the saddest part of this whole thing is that Becks was dieing for Madrid to extend him, but instead they cut him loose. There was talk he had the option to go to Inter Milan which is the best club in Italy as well as one of the world's best, however, he would have been relegated to bench duty. Instead, he apparantly decided to make himself a nice chunk of change and extend his fame here in America. Personally, I don't see it. I don't think America, for the most part, gives a damn about Beckham unlike most of the world. not at all true.  madrid had an offer on the table for weeks, beckham held out for more money and was exploring his options.  one of those options was mls which gave him a ton of money.  feel not sorry for the man.  That isn't really accurate. In his last contract with Madrid, Beckham's image rights belonged to the club. In order to allow him to stay, Madrid wanted to retain those rights. Essentially, they would have continued to make a fortune off his pretty face while he rotted away on the bench. Beckham refused because he knew good and well how much money was involved in those rights. He did, however, want very badly to stay with Madrid and he made that quite clear to whoever would listen. He had a new home in Spain, he enrolled his kids in a Spanish school, and he basically set up his entire life there.

NickyL0885

01-14-2007, 01:28 AM

Look, this was a great thing for MLS. Soccer is the most played sport by young kids up to a certain age. But they stop playing b/c they dont have anyone to idolize. For example, a kid who has played baseball his whole life has people to look up or who he wants to be like, for instance, David Wright or Derek Jeter. Soccer doesnt have that player. But now it does, so more young kids will probabaly want to pursue soccer as a career. Also, other known players will follow like Rinaldo, who will be playing in NY(those are the rumors). I mean, during the world cup, ratings here in the US were good, so it can be possible, and this is def a step in the right direction. It would def also help if Team USA goes far in tournaments. People complain thats its slow. But in the Premiership, the game is fast paced and the scoring is pretty good. So, the more and better talent the MLS gets, the better and scoring will rise, as will interest. Look at hockey. people hating the low scoring, but last 2 yrs, scoring has been up since changing rules.

shamus mcfitzy

01-14-2007, 02:12 AM

cougarjake13 wrote: but is beckham enough to get people in the seats and to watch on tv ??? i won't tune in because i hate Beckham. But if the league actually picks up guys that i can actually feel comfortable watching without gagging then i would certainly turn me on some MLS. And if the Red Bulls get someone cool then id start attending games even. heavens to murgatroid?

sailor

01-14-2007, 02:16 AM

and now edgar davids is reportedly going to dalllas, depending on who you listen to.  yeah, that's a preposition...what of it?

sailor

01-14-2007, 02:20 AM

cougarjake13 wrote: sailor wrote: cougarjake13 wrote:yes but my point was that most americans follow all of the 4 major sports as well as the secondary ones and yes some people like you may make time for soccer but most americans born here in this country dont follow soccertheres just too much on our tv viewing plate there's never too much on tv. and most people wouldn't really count hockey as big 4 either (sadly, another one i love). yeh but theres prob more people watching hockey than soccer i wouldn't dispute that.  i never claimed soccer was popular here.  i also don't get the hatred of soccer from so many people.  you don't like it, cool.  but why do so many feel the need to bash it?  do i like nascar?  not really.  do i feel the need to go into nascar threads and write about how i think it's a loathesome psuedo-sport?  never.  not saying you, but there are many others on here doing just that.  i can't imagine why.

cougarjake13

01-14-2007, 07:09 AM

claudio renya signed with red bull new york

Dan 'Hampton

01-14-2007, 10:26 AM

I think this is a good sign for MLS that this thread is still on the first page.  I'll spend 20 bucks to go see Beckham, why the hell not?  The problem with soccer in this country is that our version of it sucks.  It's about as much fun as watching the devils use the neutral zone trap.  European soccer can be much more fast paced and have a more artistic quality to it than the crap over here.  So hey, if MLS is trying to improve their product or even their revenue more power to them.

sailor

01-14-2007, 10:30 AM

dschef wrote: I think this is a good sign for MLS that this thread is still on the first page. I'll spend 20 bucks to go see Beckham, why the hell not? The problem with soccer in this country is that our version of it sucks. It's about as much fun as watching the devils use the neutral zone trap. European soccer can be much more fast paced and have a more artistic quality to it than the crap over here. So hey, if MLS is trying to improve their product or even their revenue more power to them. people love to slam the quality here, but it's not nearly as bad as people like to say it is.

Dan 'Hampton

01-14-2007, 10:31 AM

sailor wrote: and now edgar davids is reportedly going to dalllas, depending on who you listen to. yeah, that's a preposition...what of it? He'd get himself a sunglasses sponsorship real quick.

sailor

01-14-2007, 10:36 AM

dschef wrote: sailor wrote: and now edgar davids is reportedly going to dalllas, depending on who you listen to. yeah, that's a preposition...what of it? He'd get himself a sunglasses sponsorship real quick.  for real!  <img src="http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/madrigalq/davids.jpg" border="0" alt="davids" title="davids" width="142" height="213" /><img src="http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/madrigalq/edgar_davids1280x1024.jpg" border="0" alt="davids2" title="davids2" width="400" height="320" />

NickyL0885

01-15-2007, 05:14 PM

Davids is a good player, Plays for a top club in Italy. Be a another good move for MLS. Now, the Reb Bulls bets get Ronaldo. that be sweet. im def thinkg about buying tix to see a game, perhaps vs the Galaxy when the schedules come out.

Dan 'Hampton

01-15-2007, 05:37 PM

NickyL0885 wrote: Davids is a good player, Plays for a top club in Italy. Be a another good move for MLS. Now, the Reb Bulls bets get Ronaldo. that be sweet. im def thinkg about buying tix to see a game, perhaps vs the Galaxy when the schedules come out. Sooooorry, he plays in North London for Tottenham. He did play for Juventus. But that was a few years back. 

This message was edited by dschef on 1-15-07 @ 9:39 PM

NickyL0885

01-15-2007, 05:43 PM

eh, cant always be right i guess. i hate tottenham anyways, so i dont follow them. i follow Man U and Chelsea. Liverpool too. its hard, i cant pick one to root for. I have fav players on each. Perhaps im more Liverpool, since Gerard is my fav player.

Dan 'Hampton

01-15-2007, 05:55 PM

NickyL0885 wrote: eh, cant always be right i guess. i hate tottenham anyways, so i dont follow them. i follow Man U and Chelsea. Liverpool too. its hard, i cant pick one to root for. I have fav players on each. Perhaps im more Liverpool, since Gerard is my fav player. Wow you have a real martyrs complex.

NickyL0885

01-15-2007, 05:59 PM

hmmm do explain sir, as i have no idea wat u mean.

Dan 'Hampton

01-15-2007, 06:09 PM

That was sarcasm.

sailor

01-15-2007, 06:20 PM

he means you're rooting for basically 3 of the top 4 or 5 british teams year to year.  like saying i'm torn between the yankees, red sox and braves (before this year, anyway).  myself, i've been a fan of coventry city since the mid 90s, so i know suffering.

NickyL0885

01-15-2007, 06:44 PM

ok, when i started likeing soccer, the only player i knew outside of beckham was Wayne Rooney. SO, i started playing alot of Fifa games then watchin any games i could on tv. but like i said, Rooney was the only other guy i knew. i dunno wat to tell ya man. not like im a band wagoner or a front runner. im a die hard for all my teams in sports. but in soccer, i havent found MY team. but the more i watch, the more certain players become favs. Steven Gerard became a fav of mine in the World cup, as did Frank Lampard.

Kevin

01-15-2007, 06:50 PM

NickyL0885 wrote: ok, when i started likeing soccer, the only player i knew outside of beckham was Wayne Rooney. SO, i started playing alot of Fifa games then watchin any games i could on tv. but like i said, Rooney was the only other guy i knew. i dunno wat to tell ya man. not like im a band wagoner or a front runner. im a die hard for all my teams in sports. but in soccer, i havent found MY team. but the more i watch, the more certain players become favs. Steven Gerard became a fav of mine in the World cup, as did Frank Lampard. Rooney is by my number 1 pick if i am starting a Soccer team... The reason i would pick him over Ronadinhio is age. Rooney is 21 and will only get better( he is great now) and Ronaldinhio is 27 28... he only has a few years left at his level. As far as my other players. I like Terry, Ronaldo (Man U) Not the fat ass Real Madrid Ronaldo. Giggs, Buffoon, Chech, A few others.

This message was edited by Kevin on 1-15-07 @ 10:51 PM

JesterOfSadness

01-15-2007, 07:27 PM

Kevin wrote: Rooney is by my number 1 pick if i am starting a Soccer team... The reason i would pick him over Ronadinhio is age. Rooney is 21 and will only get better( he is great now) and Ronaldinhio is 27 28... he only has a few years left at his level. As far as my other players. I like Terry, Ronaldo (Man U) Not the fat ass Real Madrid Ronaldo. Giggs, Buffoon, Chech, A few others.This message was edited by Kevin on 1-15-07 @ 10:51 PM Thanks for the compliments Kevin.  (I have the same last name and same age as this soccer fellow) Yeah I suck..