Saban Quits! Goes to Bama

[Snacks]

<p>As a Miami fan I'm happy. I never wanted him to be the head coach 2 years ago. The only thing to be mad at is why take the job in the first place if you never planned on finishing and then to lie about it just 2 weeks ago.</p><p>Call Jimmy Johnson see if he will come back.</p>

[JimBeam]

<p>This has been mentioned a few times on the radio but not enough :</p><p>Why is it that a coach can leave while he's under contract, with no reprisals, but when he's fired early he still gets money ?</p><p>In that case players should be allowed to change teams w/out sitting out.</p><p>Its a joke.</p><p>I'm not one of those people who thinks players should be paid but they should at least be able to make the best moves for themselves.</p>

[phixion]

hes allowed to coach cuz hes going to college. if he wanted to coach an nfl team then there wouldve been compensation ala j e t s jets jets jets getting a 4th rounder for herm edwards.

[Snacks]

<strong>phixion</strong> wrote:<br />hes allowed to coach cuz hes going to college. if he wanted to coach an nfl team then there wouldve been compensation ala j e t s jets jets jets getting a 4th rounder for herm edwards. <p>you are correct sir!!!</p><p>I think the jets robbed KC getting a 4th rounder, Herm Edwards IMO is a shit head coach. I dont know why he is so over hyped. As a man I like him. He seemed like a great guy and spoke his mind, but as a coach I just never thought he had it. </p><p>Now onto my boys the Dolphins. WTF was one for the best franchises in NFL history. Now we are turning into Arizona. 5 straight years without a playoff birth. No super bowl win since 74 no super bowl apperance since 84. I know Miami has always been to the playoffs and even when they didnt go they would win 10 games or 9 games. They have played in one of the toghest dvisions in all of football, but come on they need to make some better decisions.</p><p>So who will be the coach? I dont like college coaches coming to the NFL. I like asst pro coaches getting the job. Who is out there?</p>

[phixion]

snacks as of right now uve had 3 losing seasons since 72 sorry if i dont&nbsp;feel your pain.

[phixion]

<p>i was wrong i apologize. u only had four losing seasons since 72. boo fuckin hoo my friend. </p>

[Kevin]

Alabama is one of the poorest places in America yet the university has enough money to just throw 40 million dollars to a football coach. How about giving some back to the community..... I still do&nbsp; not understand people that root for collages that they did not go to. Unless you went to that school, there no reason you should be rooting for them.

[spoon]

<p>Ah fuck, here comes Kev's stupid rules on liking a sports team!&nbsp; Blah blah blah.&nbsp; How boring are your rules of fandom?&nbsp; I mean come on Kev.&nbsp; </p><p>As for possible replacements I've been hearing SD's O coordinator Cam being tossed around.</p>

[cougarjake13]

and pitts off coord ken whisenhunthas been mentioned&nbsp;if cowher stays on

[cougarjake13]

<strong>JimBeam</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Why is it that a coach can leave while he's under contract, with no reprisals, but when he's fired early he still gets money ?</p><p>my uneducated guess is that when fired he has no job so no way to support himself and his family</p><p>when leaving on his own accord its usually to another team and they're gonna be paying him</p><p>are coaches salaries guaranteed ??? that could be another reason</p>

[Kevin]

<strong>spoon</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Ah fuck, here comes Kev's stupid rules on liking a sports team!&nbsp; Blah blah blah.&nbsp; How boring are your rules of fandom?&nbsp; I mean come on Kev.&nbsp; </p><p>As for possible replacements I've been hearing SD's O coordinator Cam being tossed around.</p><p>We really missed you spoon... WHERE YA BEEN?</p>

[Bama]

<p>I am very happy right now. </p><p>I've got two degrees from Bama so I guess I'm qualified.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>As for paying Saban all that money, it will be returned to the university tenfold if he wins a National Championship.&nbsp;Big boosters are a lot more generous in their donations when the team is good. </p>

[Snacks]

<p>Saban is an ass. He couldnt handle coaching men so he ran back to coaching kids. I dont even have a problem with that, what I do have a problem with is the wya he handles it and if he knew he loved coaching kids so much, why waste your time and ours and fuck up the Dolphins and leave them like that.</p><p>I said it when he was hired he would leave to go back and he did it a year sooner then I thought. I hope bama fires him after 2 years. They have been doing this lately anyway so continue to do it.</p><p>Is anyone watching this bama news confrence? Saban is talking and making me sick. I want answers and so do many. Even the analyst that usually love him say he was wrong the way he handled this and they all think he needs to speak out. He didnt even have the balls to announce his decision public yesterday. He did it via a speaker phone announcement and then let Wayne Hisinga (miami owner sp?) look like an ass one more time. I felt so bad for him yesterday.</p>

[narc]

<p>Fuck the Dolphins. This can only make them look bad which means I love it. </p><p>Now, if they'll only hire Mularkey as head coach, I'll cum in my pants out of sheer joy. </p>

[SouthSideJohnny]

<p>He's a real class act.&nbsp; All his bullshit about character, principles, and values, but he didn't even have the decency to hold a press conference to announce he was leaving.&nbsp;&nbsp; Good riddance to him!</p><p><font size="1"><font face="Verdana,Arial, Helvetica">AS THE TIDE TURNS: Saban's denials&nbsp;&nbsp; Sun-Sentinel.com&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Posted January 2 2007<br />&nbsp;<br />A list of Dolphins coach Nick Saban's repeated denials of having interest in the Alabama coaching vacancy:<br /><br />Nov. 27 -- &quot;No, I haven't. [I] don't care to be. [I] don't want to be. I've got a job to do here. My focus is on our players, this team, us getting better, us playing good winning football here. I'm not interested in any other circumstances or situations anyplace else. This is the challenge I wanted. I had a good college job, so why would I have left that if I was going to be interested in another college job?&quot;<br /><br />Dec. 3 -- &quot;I'm not going to continue to respond to rumors and innuendo, which this obviously is. I'm committed to a group of guys here and a football team and a football staff, and we're working hard to get this season right. It really challenges your professionalism and integrity to even talk about it. People throw it to the wall, see what sticks.&quot;<br /><br />Dec. 7 -- &quot;They called [agent] Jimmy [Sexton] and said, 'Is Nick interested?' and Jimmy said, 'No.' And Jimmy asked me on several occasions and I said, 'No, I'm interested in staying here. I'm flattered that they may have been interested in me, but it really never progressed because we never let it progress. It's ridiculous. I haven't even talked to anybody and all of a sudden somebody's coming here to interview me.&quot;<br /><br />Dec. 11 -- &quot;I in no way wanted to indicate to him [Sports Illustrated's Peter King] or anybody else that there was any possibility of that [having interest in Alabama]. I have no intentions of going anywhere. Hell, they might not want me here after this season. Did you ever think of that? I've addressed this enough. When does this become a dead story?&quot;<br /><br />Dec. 21 -- &quot;I guess I have to say it: I'm not going to be the Alabama coach. I shouldn't even have to comment on this. I think I've said this over and over again. What they do with their position is their business.&quot;<br /><br />Jan. 1 -- &quot;I'm committed to doing my job well here. This is my job. That's what I've done all day, and that's what I'll continue to do.&quot;</font></font></p>

[phixion]

<p>whats with the entitlement? herm edwards didnt have a press conference to anounce he was leaving, did i fuckin cry about it? no i danced a dance of pure joy. ofcourse we got a brad smith in the deal, hey you got daunte culpepper. </p><p>ha fuck the dolphins. </p>

[jetdog]

<strong>Kevin</strong> wrote:<br />Alabama is one of the poorest places in America yet the university has enough money to just throw 40 million dollars to a football coach. How about giving some back to the community..... I still do not understand people that root for collages that they did not go to. Unless you went to that school, there no reason you should be rooting for them.<p>&nbsp;Not that I agree with paying a college coach that much (especially Saban) but a lot of that money comes from people who wouldn't bother giving it if it didn't go towards the football program.&nbsp; Liking Alabama or Auburn is just something you do down in Alabama, who cares if you went there or not? It's a fucking blast to verbally molest an Auburn fan (even if they have kicked the shit out of Alabama for the past few years).&nbsp; Nothing beats the Iron Bowl.<br /> </p>

[SouthSideJohnny]

<strong>phixion</strong> wrote:<br /><p>whats with the entitlement? herm edwards didnt have a press conference to anounce he was leaving, did i fuckin cry about it? no i danced a dance of pure joy. ofcourse we got a brad smith in the deal, hey you got daunte culpepper. </p><p>ha fuck the dolphins. </p><p>Don't get me wrong, I'm glad he's gone and I don't have an 'entitlement' mentality.&nbsp; I'm not a huge 'fins fan, but that's all you hear about on local radio.&nbsp; Saban was an asshole here from day one.&nbsp; </p><p>Like it or not, being an NFL coach is a high profile position and involves the public and media.&nbsp; He was a dick from day one and he was an asshole if the local media asked any question about the team.&nbsp; When he did speak publicly, there was alot of talk about character and values.&nbsp; He then lies about the position for a month and then ducks out of town without any public announcement.&nbsp; From what I've read, he announced it to his assistants on a conference call, but I haven't heard anything about an announcement to the players.&nbsp; That's chicken shit in my book. </p>

[JimBeam]

<p>I didnt mean &quot; how can the coach leave &quot; in a manner of how he supports himself I just wanna know why he's not held to the contract he signed.</p><p>And why are they paying this guy so much ?</p><p>Because he won a half of a Nat'l title at LSU ?</p><p>Please.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[phixion]

<p>I just wanna know why he's not held to the contract he signed. </p>&nbsp;because its an nfl contract.&nbsp; and hes going to college. he resigned, why cant dennis green say you signed me for x amount of years and im staying here until my contraact is done?

[JimBeam]

<p>Because you can be fired for not doing your job or not doing it well enough.</p><p>The employer should hold the power as they do in the real world.</p><p>The thing is Green is still gonna get money but the Dolphins dont eg tt otake any money back.</p><p>It doesnt matter if he went from the NFL to college or vice versa. He has a signed contract and should be held to it.</p><p>Arent the players in the NFL held to that standard ?</p><p>If not wouldnt Barry Sanders have been playing somewhere other than Dertoit ?</p><p>No because he couldnt just dismiss his contract.</p><p>It'd be apple versus apples if when Green got fired he didnt receive a red cent. Then it'd be square.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[phixion]

<p>guy ur acting like u know the details of the contract in lawyer talk.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>and lets say the dolphins do say u have to give back x% of ur contract back, and he says okay ill just come back and coach and do shit job just so i get fired on purpose and get to keep all the moeny cause its guaranteed. what then? </p>

[JimBeam]

<p>That actually is waht they said the other day on ESPN</p><p>That the Dolphins could hold him but why would they want somebody that doesnt wanna be there</p><p>&nbsp;I'm not talking about the specifics of this contract I'm saying they all should be written the same way.</p><p>Whats good for one is good for the other.</p><p>If you get fired for sucking you're not do any money and if you wanna leave for a beter gig you're free to do so.</p><p>BUT I think that should also be allowed for the players as well.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[phixion]

<p>so lets look at the jets and herm edwards last year: in ur scenario herm edwards wouldve just been able to go to KC and the jets get no compensation? thats not close to fair. </p>

[JimBeam]

<p>No he should've had to stay unless he was fired in which case he can then do whatever he wants.</p><p>Unless of course both teams are OK with the decision ( although as you said before that wouldnt work here because it was pro to college )</p><p>I just think it has to be &quot; fair &quot;</p><p>Any by fair I mean its the same for both players and coaches.</p><p>If I sign a contract as a player with a team that sucks I should be allowed to move just like a coach would.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Snacks]

<strong>JimBeam</strong> wrote:<br /><p>No he should've had to stay unless he was fired in which case he can then do whatever he wants.</p><p>Unless of course both teams are OK with the decision ( although as you said before that wouldnt work here because it was pro to college )</p><p>I just think it has to be &quot; fair &quot;</p><p>Any by fair I mean its the same for both players and coaches.</p><p><font style="background-color: #ffff00">If I sign a contract as a player with a team that sucks I should be allowed to move just like a coach would.</font></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>players do this already. Its called a contract hold out. Now I agree with you they should have a little more power then they do. The NFL owns their players. That was T.O's argument l;ast year with philly. That a players contract can be voided at any time by the team, so he wanted to hold out to get paid while he had the chance. Even though he already had a high paying contract he felt he should get more now b/c in a few years when he may be getting over paid they would just cut him and then hes fucked. The only time I agree with players bitching about money and contracts in when it comes to the NFL. NBA and MLB contracts are guranteed, but the NFL are not. I say get what you can while you can.</p>

[phixion]

<p>I say get what you can while you can. </p><p>then u might as well get rid of the salary cap. this way peyton manning could get a arod type of contract (along with the arod playoff experience.) i cant help but think the survival of the sport is more important than any single persons salaries. </p>

[cougarjake13]

<p>they couldnt let the players do as the coaches do it would be chaos</p><p>shitty teams would remain shitty b/c no one would want to go or stay there, rookies drafted out of college could get drafted by team a and then before a snap in the preseason say you what i dont like oakland im getting out of my contract and going to the patriots</p>