Gravy or Sauce??? [Archive] - RonFez.net Messageboard

Snacks

12-28-2006, 12:12 AM

Noticing in the lasagna thread that some people were calling it sauce I decide to see who calls it sauce and who calls it gravy and whyI dont understand why some people call it gravy  and some call it sauce. Its funny most NJ Italians call it Gravy and Most NY italians call it sauce.Heres my answer. When its made with meat it called gravy. (meat meaning sausage, meatballs, peporoni, pork, neckbone, brauchal (SP?) etc)When its not made with meat and it is just tomatoes and seasoning its a sauce and we usually call that simply tomatoe sauce.I know some of you will say what about gravy for turkey, meat, ham etc. Well I call that brown gravy.Lets hear what you think and tell us if you Italian or not and were your from.100% Italian from NJ and all my friends, family and everyone I know calls it Gravy!!!
This message was edited by Snacks on 12-28-06 @ 4:16 AM

PapaBear

12-28-2006, 01:06 AM

Gravy is sauce that has been thickened after cooking. You can't apply the "gravy" term to lasagna, unless you are taking the sauce from the lasagna, then thickening it, and returning it to the dish.

sr71blackbird

12-28-2006, 01:07 AM

Im Italian and from Long Island and we called it "sauce". I guess we would call anything made with tomato as a base "sauce", and anything made of anything else "gravy". I have always been perplexed by this myself. Great thread! It reminds me of the sandwich thread, in where the question of what to call this: <img src="http://www.giloscafe.com/dining/menu/menu_files/image003.gif" border="0" width="80" height="34" /> I always called it a "hero", but others outside LI might call it a hoagie, grinder, wedge etc.   

This message was edited by sr71blackbird on 12-28-06 @ 7:25 AM

sailor

12-28-2006, 01:18 AM

sr71blackbird wrote: Im Italian and from Long Island and we called it "sauce". I guess we would call anything made with tomato as a base "sauce", and anything made of anything else "gravy". I have always been perplexed by this myself. Great thread! It reminds me of the sandwich thread, in where the question of what to call this: <img src="http://www.giloscafe.com/dining/menu/menu_files/image003.gif" border="0" width="80" height="34" /> I always called it a "hero", but others outside LI might call it a haogie, grinder, wedge etc. i agree with this, across the board. except i'm not from long island. or a dirty italian. <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> 

This message was edited by sailor on 12-28-06 @ 5:21 AM

lintpit

12-28-2006, 03:18 AM

Gravy is made from hot animal fat and starch. sauce is made with maters, or cheese.

Don Stugots

12-28-2006, 03:20 AM

i call a hoagie a heroe. if there is meat in it then its gravyno meat then its sauce.  or is it the other way around.

Hottub

12-28-2006, 03:45 AM

Sauce or Tuco.Gravy is brown, and for meat.Sauce is for pasta.Gospel according to the skinny Irish kid!

cupcakelove

12-28-2006, 03:53 AM

Gravy is made from the juices or fat of cooked meat, then thickened and seasoned, and used on meat or potatoes.  Just adding some meat to a sauce doesn't magically turn it into gravy.

Don Stugots

12-28-2006, 04:03 AM

cupcakelove wrote: Gravy is made from the juices or fat of cooked meat, then thickened and seasoned, and used on meat or potatoes. Just adding some meat to a sauce doesn't magically turn it into gravy. it does on my grammys stove.

angelinad128

12-28-2006, 04:51 AM

I know it as this, when talking Italian it's called Gravy. When we speak english it's sauce. No matter if it's got meat or it's plain.

yomudder21

12-28-2006, 05:04 AM

I have a German background; therefore, I am white.  So.............it is GRAVY!

MadMatt

12-28-2006, 05:09 AM

I have never understood why it would be called "gravy."  It is tomato sauce.

Don Stugots

12-28-2006, 05:12 AM

yomudder21 wrote: I have a German background; therefore, I am white. So.............it is GRAVY!   italian people aren't white?

sailor

12-28-2006, 05:13 AM

yomudder21 wrote: I have a German background; therefore, I am white. So.............it is GRAVY!   shouldn't there be a separate poll for whites and non-whites? no white person would ever call it gravy. that's just crazy!

This message was edited by sailor on 12-28-06 @ 9:16 AM

Hottub

12-28-2006, 05:15 AM

Don Stugots wrote: yomudder21 wrote: I have a German background; therefore, I am white. So.............it is GRAVY!   italian people aren't white?Sorry.

sailor

12-28-2006, 05:18 AM

Hottub wrote: Don Stugots wrote: yomudder21 wrote: I have a German background; therefore, I am white. So.............it is GRAVY!   italian people aren't white?Sorry. ron said something about spaghetti n's...but i don't know what he meant by that.  :)

Freakshow

12-28-2006, 05:19 AM

Don Stugots wrote: yomudder21 wrote: I have a German background; therefore, I am white. So.............it is GRAVY!ÿÿÿitalian people aren't white? 

Ron gave us the rundown. I believe it was Ireland, England, Germany, and the Scandanavian Countries. That's it for whities.

BrownTown

12-28-2006, 05:27 AM

It's Sauce. Tomato-based red stuff for pasta with or without meat (that just makes it Marinara Sauce or Meat Sauce). Gravy is the stuff that goes on meats (turkey, roast beef, etc.). Here's a thought. If your pasta doesn't have enough of the dressing you want (as I try to stay objective) on it, what would you say."My ziti ain't saucy enough" or "My ziti ain't gravy-ey enough"There's your answer. FYI - I'm Italian from Brooklyn transplanted to Staten Island as a child.

Don Stugots

12-28-2006, 05:31 AM

BrownTown wrote: It's Sauce. Tomato-based red stuff for pasta with or without meat (that just makes it Marinara Sauce or Meat Sauce). Gravy is the stuff that goes on meats (turkey, roast beef, etc.). Here's a thought. If your pasta doesn't have enough of the dressing you want (as I try to stay objective) on it, what would you say."My ziti ain't saucy enough" or "My ziti ain't gravy-ey enough"There's your answer. FYI - I'm Italian from Brooklyn transplanted to Staten Island as a child. i was too.  sorry to hear it.   move on back over the bridge.  the food is better.

reillyluck

12-28-2006, 05:41 AM

although i am irish, i am half italian and pretty much raised by my grandmother which by the way is 100% italian.  She always called it "sauce".  So thats what i call it.  "sauce".  gravy is for mashed potatoes.  mmm....we got any mashed potatoes back there?

A.J.

12-28-2006, 06:25 AM

reillyluck wrote: although i am irish, i am half italian and pretty much raised by my grandmother which by the way is 100% italian.  She always called it "sauce".  So thats what i call it.  "sauce".  Ditto.

GonzoStyle

12-28-2006, 06:40 AM

the real question is, who's pickin up the tab for all this?!?!?!

FUNKMAN

12-28-2006, 06:51 AM

reillyluck wrote: although i am irish, i am half italian and pretty much raised by my grandmother which by the way is 100% italian.  She always called it "sauce".  So thats what i call it.  "sauce".  gravy is for mashed potatoes.  mmm....we got any mashed potatoes back there?when i went to Holy Rosary grammar school in Jersey City my class was 98% little guidos and guidesses. Across the street there was an italian restaurant named Colettas. We'd go there for lunch and they would serve red sauce/gravy on mashed potatoes that were to die for. I remember licking the bowl to get every drop. Grilled cheeses were made on half a loaf of fresh italian bread...

Marc with a c

12-28-2006, 06:57 AM

Don Stugots wrote: BrownTown wrote:  FYI - I'm Italian from Brooklyn transplanted to Staten Island as a child. i was too.  sorry to hear it.   move on back over the bridge.  the food is better. so is the smell.

reillyluck

12-28-2006, 07:01 AM

GonzoStyle wrote: the real question is, who's pickin up the tab for all this?!?!?!Stugots will of course!!!!

boeman

12-28-2006, 07:07 AM

would pee in my butt be considered a gravy or a sauce?

angelinad128

12-28-2006, 07:10 AM

boeman wrote: would pee in my butt be considered a gravy or a sauce? Sauce

reillyluck

12-28-2006, 07:12 AM

boeman wrote: would pee in my butt be considered a gravy or a sauce? trick question? i thought it was desert

A.J.

12-28-2006, 07:15 AM

boeman wrote: would pee in my butt be considered a gravy or a sauce? More of a glaze I should think.

LordJezo

12-28-2006, 07:18 AM

Sauce!Add meat and it's meat sauce.Gravy = the type of stuff you have on Thanksgiving or put over a meatloaf.    How about this to the people who call it gravy:What do you call alfredo sauce?  alfredo gravy?  How about vodka sauce?

Marc with a c

12-28-2006, 07:19 AM

LordJezo wrote: How about this to the people who call it gravy:What do you call alfredo sauce?  alfredo gravy?  How about vodka sauce?   it's all gravy to these goddamn greasers. GET BACK ON THE BOAT!

angelinad128

12-28-2006, 07:21 AM

Marc with a c wrote: LordJezo wrote: How about this to the people who call it gravy:What do you call alfredo sauce?  alfredo gravy?  How about vodka sauce?   it's all gravy to these goddamn greasers. GET BACK ON THE BOAT!My parents made it here on the last boat ever coming to America, LOL.  Sadly, I'm 99% sure I was conceived on it...

reillyluck

12-28-2006, 07:24 AM

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Furtherman

12-28-2006, 07:26 AM

It's a hoagie dammit!!!   Oh wait... sorry... I thought I had to start trying to convert some of you heathens again. If it's pasta, it's sauce red.If it's meat, it's gravy brown.

Furtherman

12-28-2006, 07:27 AM

LordJezo wrote: How about this to the people who call it gravy:What do you call alfredo sauce?  alfredo gravy?  How about vodka sauce?   Excellent question.  And therin lies the rub! Speaking of vodka sauce - have you ever had vodka sauce pizza?  You'll never go back to regular pizza again.  Fantastic.

A.J.

12-28-2006, 07:37 AM

Furtherman wrote: Excellent question.  And therin lies the rub!Gravy, sauce...now we're talking about rubs?<img src="http://www.gourmetfoodmall.com/merchants/Alices01/SPICEBARB.jpg" border="0" width="300" height="300" />

GonzoStyle

12-28-2006, 07:48 AM

reillyluck wrote: GonzoStyle wrote: the real question is, who's pickin up the tab for all this?!?!?!Stugots will of course!!!!eyyy, god bless, god bless!

Lee-Ya

12-28-2006, 07:49 AM

Gravy has to have a meat product in it or come from meat.  sauce is just tomatoes, alfredo or whatever, but just no meat involed.

FUNKMAN

12-28-2006, 08:12 AM

i put some meat in hot gravy once - OUCH it hurt!

Don Stugots

12-28-2006, 08:14 AM

Furtherman wrote: LordJezo wrote: How about this to the people who call it gravy:What do you call alfredo sauce? alfredo gravy? How about vodka sauce? Excellent question. And therin lies the rub! Speaking of vodka sauce - have you ever had vodka sauce pizza? You'll never go back to regular pizza again. Fantastic. i love vodka sauce pizza.  i love it both ways, with pasta on it or just a regular slice made with vodka sauce.

boeman

12-28-2006, 08:34 AM

Don Stugots wrote:  i love it both waysMmmm... hot.

Snacks

12-28-2006, 09:16 AM

Don Stugots wrote: cupcakelove wrote: Gravy is made from the juices or fat of cooked meat, then thickened and seasoned, and used on meat or potatoes. Just adding some meat to a sauce doesn't magically turn it into gravy.  it does on my grammys stove.  On my Nana's stove, my mothers, all my friends mothers, wives etc it does.

Don Stugots

12-28-2006, 09:18 AM

Snacks wrote: Don Stugots wrote: cupcakelove wrote: Gravy is made from the juices or fat of cooked meat, then thickened and seasoned, and used on meat or potatoes. Just adding some meat to a sauce doesn't magically turn it into gravy. it does on my grammys stove. On my Nana's stove, my mothers, all my friends mothers, wives etc it does. snacks, get out of my grammy's kitchen.

Snacks

12-28-2006, 09:23 AM

Don Stugots wrote: yomudder21 wrote: I have a German background; therefore, I am white. So.............it is GRAVY!   italian people aren't white?Italians are the original Latin so no we are not white. I read somewhere once that Italians and Spanish (from spain) were suppose to have their own box to check when it came to race for applications, loans etc. I read that some Italian and Spanish (from spain) reached out to the goverment to not have this done. They wanted to blend into America. I have to look this up again it was a long time ago that I read this.

This message was edited by Snacks on 12-28-06 @ 1:27 PM

phillyfan

12-28-2006, 06:03 PM

Sauce

cougarjake13

12-29-2006, 03:37 AM

gravy is brown, sometimes whitesauce is rednuff said, end of story