Inno Vs Helix [Archive] - RonFez.net Messageboard

Fallon

12-27-2006, 11:32 AM

This is something I sent marc with a c a little while back about portable units:

First it depends how much you are willing to spend. The best portable on the market is the Inno, which I use. It was $400 in March when it came out (and when I bought it), and now it's $179 after $50 rebate. It's small, records a ton and can be used live when it's docked or not.

It's simple to use. You can use a Napster program it comes with, shedule your recordings on it, make playlists and remove tracks. I record O&A and R&F every day, after that I hook it up to Napster and delete all of the commercials. It's kickass.

From what I've heard the Helix is the exact same as the Inno, only another company makes it and it looks a little different. That's $159 after rebate, don't know why it's cheaper now, my guess is people don't really know about it because XM pushes the Inno.

The Nexus 25 is the same as those two, but has no color screen and you can't listen to live programming when it's not docked. Other than that it's pretty much the same and $79 after rebate.

The old generation of XM2Go are the Delphi MyFi, Tao and Pioneer Airware. Those run $139-149 and are much more bulky than the newer ones and don't offer nearly as much. I don't see the point of getting one of those since they cost just as much and aren't nearly as good.

I've had a Roady2, MyFi and Inno. Gotta say I love the Inno the best by far. Use it every day on the train and at work.

I buy most of my stuff from MyRadioStore.com (http://extpromo.myradiostore.com/promotions/s/RonFezNet.MrsHome) or at BestBuy.

mikeyboy

12-27-2006, 11:35 AM

weekapaugjz wrote: hey shelle, im in the same boat, im thinking the helix cause its not as expensive.  check out www.myradiostore.com for prices.  they have the cheapest prices i have seen I'll add that if you decide to purchase from MyRadioStore.com, please be kind to rf.net and click the MyRadioStore link on the left side of our page.

ShelleBink

12-27-2006, 11:36 AM

well i can get either the pink inno for $152.29 or the helix for $152.29

Clutch

12-27-2006, 11:36 AM

Fallon beat me to it... myradiostore.com has the cheepest and I personally have the Inno, works great - XM and an IPOD to boot.... it was a great purchase

ShelleBink

12-27-2006, 11:40 AM

the rebate doesn't apply to me since im not a new subscriber... im just not sure which one i want to get since they both have a lot of the same features, im just concerned on customer satisfaction and such, and it seems the inno is getting high reviews.  but getting helix at the cheaper price is a better savings... ugh.

Fallon

12-27-2006, 11:51 AM

Here are reviews from Cnet.
<a target='blank' href=http://reviews.cnet.com/Pioneer_Inno_XM/4505-7873_7-31824917.html>Inno Review</a>
<a target='blank' href=http://reviews.cnet.com/Samsung_Helix_YX_M1/4505-7873_7-31824918.html>Helix Review</a>

Like I said, it's the same on the inside, just made by two companies.

fattypnemonia

12-27-2006, 11:53 AM

i have an inno and it doesnt leave my side, ever.  i love my precious

reillyluck

12-27-2006, 12:19 PM

I got the Helix for xmas and i love it.  not sure if thats going to help you much but i do love it. 

ShelleBink

12-27-2006, 12:40 PM

ok ok. pink or black.

Fallon

12-27-2006, 01:11 PM

Pink!

K.C.

12-27-2006, 01:28 PM

I just got an Inno recently. The only thing that bothers me is that if you have a frameware above V. 1.05 for it, the FM Modulator is disabled and you have to buy the seperate car kit which is anywhere from $50-$70 to broadcast the XM signal over and FM station. That's a feature I used a lot with the MyFi. Other than that, though, the Inno owns every other XM unit.

SatCam

12-27-2006, 06:22 PM

mikeyboy wrote: weekapaugjz wrote: hey shelle, im in the same boat, im thinking the helix cause its not as expensive. check out www.myradiostore.com for prices. they have the cheapest prices i have seen I'll add that if you decide to purchase from MyRadioStore.com, please be kind to rf.net and click the MyRadioStore link on the left side of our page.

spam

Kevin

12-27-2006, 06:24 PM

Fallon wrote: Pink! Too bad they did not have those while you were buying yours.

Fallon

12-27-2006, 06:37 PM

Kevin wrote: Fallon wrote: Pink! Too bad they did not have those while you were buying yours.
You calling Bret Hart a pussy?

Kevin

12-27-2006, 06:40 PM

Fallon wrote: Kevin wrote: Fallon wrote: Pink! Too bad they did not have those while you were buying yours. You calling Bret Hart a pussy? I wasn't, but now that you mention it...... YES! Are you gunna show up for Your rf.net HOF induction looking miserable but not for the board party after? 

This message was edited by Kevin on 12-27-06 @ 10:43 PM

Drunky McBetidont

12-28-2006, 04:42 AM

i just picked up the nexus 50 for $29 after $50 rebate.  it recorded ron n fez last night at midnight!  it doesn't play live xm unless docked though so now i need the car kit too.

yomudder21

12-28-2006, 05:07 AM

Have they figured out the recording problems with the Inno yet?  It still doesn't not record my RandF or OandA properly.  It just keeps them at one segment even though Earl is changing the pad data.  That is what i like to do, fast forward through an hour of content to get where i need to be.

ShelleBink

12-28-2006, 07:30 AM

i might get the pink inno coz then at least straight dudes wouldn't steal it ((hopefully))

Fallon

12-28-2006, 08:00 AM

yomudder21 wrote: Have they figured out the recording problems with the Inno yet? It still doesn't not record my RandF or OandA properly. It just keeps them at one segment even though Earl is changing the pad data. That is what i like to do, fast forward through an hour of content to get where i need to be.  Inno still has pad data issues when  recording, I don't find it too much of a problem.

ShelleBink

12-28-2006, 08:02 AM

Fallon wrote: yomudder21 wrote: Have they figured out the recording problems with the Inno yet? It still doesn't not record my RandF or OandA properly. It just keeps them at one segment even though Earl is changing the pad data. That is what i like to do, fast forward through an hour of content to get where i need to be.  Inno still has pad data issues when  recording, I don't find it too much of a problem. In terms of what?  This is kind of the stuff I was interested in finding out; and if Helix has identical issues and such.

EffMeBoobs

12-28-2006, 08:44 AM

I just got the pink inno for xmas.  It fucking rocks.   I have yet to buy the car kit for my car, but I do use it when I'm out and it's never been a problem so far.  I haven't taped any shows yet, but when RF come back on 1/2 I will start recording the shows!

Fallon

12-28-2006, 09:05 AM

ShelleBink wrote: Fallon wrote: yomudder21 wrote: Have they figured out the recording problems with the Inno yet? It still doesn't not record my RandF or OandA properly. It just keeps them at one segment even though Earl is changing the pad data. That is what i like to do, fast forward through an hour of content to get where i need to be. Inno still has pad data issues when recording, I don't find it too much of a problem. In terms of what? This is kind of the stuff I was interested in finding out; and if Helix has identical issues and such. When you record a show on 202 you won't get the pad data updates. Most likely the track will be named whatever the last commercial was. It's not that big of an issue. After you hook it up to napster and get rid of all the commercials (like minute long tracks) you get the full show without any breaks. So you won't have to do any searching while listening.

weekapaugjz

12-28-2006, 10:10 AM

i just set up an inno i just bought today and i fucking love it so far.  its a lot smaller in my hand than i expected it to be.

ShelleBink

12-28-2006, 10:15 AM

weekapaugjz wrote: i just set up an inno i just bought today and i fucking love it so far.  its a lot smaller in my hand than i expected it to be. thats what she said.

reillyluck

12-28-2006, 10:17 AM

DonInNC

12-28-2006, 05:29 PM

I bought my Inno when they first came out so I'm fortunate enough to have the FM mod. I love it, it doesn't leave my side. I had a skyfi 1 before.    

PaulF

12-31-2006, 12:00 PM

Got my Inno a few months back (at a very good price) and gave my MyFi to my brother.Anything you read about regarding functioning of the Inno applies to the Helix as well. The only differences are cosmetic. Most accessories will work with either unit, though from what I understand, the cradles are slightly different, so they may not be interchangeable.As far as the FM modulator goes, my car has an AUX jack in the dash, so I don't need the modulator in the car, but it only functions when in the car cradle. If I find myself in a situation where I need the FM, I take the cradle (w/out any cable) with me. Its small, no larger than a seperate FM modulater like a Belkin would be anyway, and the Inno and cradle combined is still smaller than a MyFi. The cradle doesn't need any power to enable the FM modulator in the Inno, it just needs to be attached.

Crippler

12-31-2006, 12:14 PM

ShelleBink wrote: weekapaugjz wrote: i just set up an inno i just bought today and i fucking love it so far.  its a lot smaller in my hand than i expected it to be. thats what she said. <img src="http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL77/857148/1548180/217811532.jpg" border="0" width="209" height="274" /> I think I would already have one (Inno or Helix) if they made the storage capacity bigger.  But it's what, roughly a gig?  If they want it to become the iPod of satellite receivers, they're gonna have to do a little better than that.

DJEvelEd

12-31-2006, 12:17 PM

I have a Pioneer Airware and a Sony Mini disc that I use to record off the internet. I get about 40 hours per disc and have a year's worth of discs to enjoy so far.The Airware is quirky. I thought it would be better for the $$$ I spent.

PaulF

12-31-2006, 01:47 PM

Crippler wrote:I think I would already have one (Inno or Helix) if they made the storage capacity bigger. But it's what, roughly a gig? If they want it to become the iPod of satellite receivers, they're gonna have to do a little better than that. Total memory is 1 gig, which can be left for 100% sat recording or 50/50 sat and mp3. I've got about 80 songs and podcasts filling up one half of memory and the sat recording half has 5 or six complete shows plus at least an additional dozen songs from the sat, and it says I'm only using 1% of sat memory. I find that hard to believe, but it hasn't refused to record anything yet.The sat side is good for 25+ hours of music. Talk uses much less bandwidth. I used to get 9+ hours on my MyFi, which was supposedly only good for 5 hours of recording.Would 2gigs for your own stuff be good? Sure, but for now this is decent.

Fallon

12-31-2006, 02:13 PM

PaulF wrote: Crippler wrote:I think I would already have one (Inno or Helix) if they made the storage capacity bigger. But it's what, roughly a gig? If they want it to become the iPod of satellite receivers, they're gonna have to do a little better than that. Total memory is 1 gig, which can be left for 100% sat recording or 50/50 sat and mp3. I've got about 80 songs and podcasts filling up one half of memory and the sat recording half has 5 or six complete shows plus at least an additional dozen songs from the sat, and it says I'm only using 1% of sat memory. I find that hard to believe, but it hasn't refused to record anything yet.The sat side is good for 25+ hours of music. Talk uses much less bandwidth. I used to get 9+ hours on my MyFi, which was supposedly only good for 5 hours of recording.Would 2gigs for your own stuff be good? Sure, but for now this is decent. The percent thing isn't total memory used, it's how many tracks you have locked (as to not delete).

TheRealEddie

12-31-2006, 05:03 PM

I got my wife the pink inno for christmas. So far I the reception is great by me, mostly because we get great terrestrial coverage. The battery life on the inno doesnt seem that great. Seems like only a couple of hours. Also, the interface is kinda slow and it doesnt have a lot of nice options like my skyfi2 does. I know nothing of the helix.

Fallon

12-31-2006, 05:06 PM

TheRealEddie wrote: I got my wife the pink inno for christmas. So far I the reception is great by me, mostly because we get great terrestrial coverage. The battery life on the inno doesnt seem that great. Seems like only a couple of hours. Also, the interface is kinda slow and it doesnt have a lot of nice options like my skyfi2 does. I know nothing of the helix.  Have you upgraded the inno's firmware? Their was a battery drainage problem that has been resolved.

TheRealEddie

12-31-2006, 05:24 PM

Wow! THanks! Thats pretty much what I was experiencing with the battery draining while off. I checked and had 1.16 so I did the 1.30 update.  THanks Fallon!!! <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/clap.gif" border="0" />

romey79

12-31-2006, 06:59 PM

Inno, Helix, Nexus...all come with the passport right?  I have the nexus, and the passport is kind of a pain in the ass, now I have to carry two things to the car.  I think I just don't get the whole passport thing...enlighten me

Fallon

12-31-2006, 07:14 PM

No passport on the Inno. don't think the Helix has it either.

PaulF

01-01-2007, 09:45 AM

Fallon wrote: PaulF wrote: Crippler wrote:I think I would already have one (Inno or Helix) if they made the storage capacity bigger. But it's what, roughly a gig? If they want it to become the iPod of satellite receivers, they're gonna have to do a little better than that. Total memory is 1 gig, which can be left for 100% sat recording or 50/50 sat and mp3. I've got about 80 songs and podcasts filling up one half of memory and the sat recording half has 5 or six complete shows plus at least an additional dozen songs from the sat, and it says I'm only using 1% of sat memory. I find that hard to believe, but it hasn't refused to record anything yet.The sat side is good for 25+ hours of music. Talk uses much less bandwidth. I used to get 9+ hours on my MyFi, which was supposedly only good for 5 hours of recording.Would 2gigs for your own stuff be good? Sure, but for now this is decent. The percent thing isn't total memory used, it's how many tracks you have locked (as to not delete). That makes sense, but I don't have anything locked and hooked up to my PC, it reports only 5mb of sat memory used. Not really concerned about it.

PaulF

01-01-2007, 09:55 AM

romey79 wrote: Inno, Helix, Nexus...all come with the passport right? I have the nexus, and the passport is kind of a pain in the ass, now I have to carry two things to the car. I think I just don't get the whole passport thing...enlighten me The Inno and the Helix don't use the passport. But, the passport is similar to the sim card in a GSM phone. It has all your account info and is considered the activated radio. There are going to be more products coming out using the passport. The advantage is that if you want multiple radios for different situations, but only need one to be active at a time, then you simply move the passport from one unit to another, instead of having multiple activated radios and a higher subscription cost.