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Don Stugots

12-08-2006, 06:47 PM

Should Wal-Mart call it Christmas or the Holidays?  think for a minute, Wal-Mart has a world wide customer base with different world views and what not.  what do you think?

cougarjake13

12-08-2006, 06:53 PM

i say it depends on where they are, store by store basisif they are in lets say the bible belt area then definitely xmasso are you talking website and tv commercial wise ???

Don Stugots

12-08-2006, 06:57 PM

cougarjake13 wrote: i say it depends on where they are, store by store basisif they are in lets say the bible belt area then definitely xmasso are you talking website and tv commercial wise ??? both, the wholeway that they handled it.

Contra

12-08-2006, 07:13 PM

Christmas! It's the American way!

Don Stugots

12-08-2006, 07:16 PM

but its not just an american store.  hell people in america dont just celebrate christmas.  i jsut dont see how we can preach openness and tolerance of different societies and heritages etc but yet closed minded on calling it Christmas.  i call it Christmas but i am not a world wide retail company.

MadMatt

12-08-2006, 07:31 PM

Happy Holidays - I rarely say Merry Christmas myself anymore. It all stems from college.  I grew up in a small town in South Central PA - very homogeneous and Christian.  Merry Christmas was a normal greeting.  Then I went to college.  Suddenly I get the response, "Oh, I'm Jewish" or "Oh, I'm Muslim" - etc.  After feeling like an ass enough times, I simply quit saying it. Happy Holidays is more inclusive anyway.  Not only RE: religion but you have a solid stretch of holidays that are covered from Thanksgiving through New Years.

This message was edited by MadMatt on 12-8-06 @ 11:33 PM

Don Stugots

12-08-2006, 07:33 PM

MadMatt wrote: Happy Holidays - I rarely say Merry Christmas myself anymore. It all stems from college. I grew up in a small town in South Central PA - very homogeneous and Christian. Merry Christmas was a normal greeting. Then I went to college. Suddenly I get the response, "Oh, I'm Jewish" or "Oh, I'm Muslim" - etc. After feeling like an ass enough times, I simply quit saying it. Happy Holidays is more inclusive anyway. Not only RE: various religious holidays that occur around the same time, but you have a solid stretch from Thanksgiving through New Years. This message was edited by MadMatt on 12-8-06 @ 11:32 PM see this is my point.  yet people want to just say Merry Christmas and too bad for you.  which doesnt make sense to me.

FUNKMAN

12-08-2006, 07:35 PM

a menza menz6 of one, half dozen of the otherapples and applesoranges and orangesi'd say Holidays

Don Stugots

12-08-2006, 07:39 PM

FUNKMAN wrote: a menza menz6 of one, half dozen of the otherapples and applesoranges and orangesi'd say Holidays i have an uncle that says that all the time.

lintpit

12-09-2006, 02:31 AM

Corporatons have the unenviable task of trying to please everyone all the time.Therefore Happy Holidays seems appropriate. I say Merry Christmas, but I am a christian. As is the case so many times, companys regulate free thought and speech.Say what you want, say nothing at all. Whatever works for you-should be the standard .

Poochie

12-09-2006, 03:09 AM

i say wal-mart can burn in hell. after <strike>the holidays.</strike> christmas.

This message was edited by Poochie on 12-9-06 @ 7:13 AM

WRESTLINGFAN

12-09-2006, 03:38 AM

U S Grant signed it into law for Christmas to be a federal holiday. Either way works.

sailor

12-09-2006, 04:36 AM

merry christmas.  i know jews and hindus who celebrate the commercial side of christmas.  that's the business walmart is in.  what holidays are we talking here?  chanukah?  not a real big-box-giving holiday, so no need to include it.  kwanzaa?  fake, invented holiday.  walmart is celebrating gift giving, not any particular religion.  funny thing from all the hoopla last year, tho', i believe the waltons are devout christians (not certain, but i think i'm right.  they were just trying to include as many people to drum up further sales.)

Jughead

12-09-2006, 04:47 AM

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Don Stugots

12-09-2006, 05:54 AM

bronxmarc wrote: merry christmas. i know jews and hindus who celebrate the commercial side of christmas. that's the business walmart is in. what holidays are we talking here? chanukah? not a real big-box-giving holiday, so no need to include it. kwanzaa? fake, invented holiday. walmart is celebrating gift giving, not any particular religion. funny thing from all the hoopla last year, tho', i believe the waltons are devout christians (not certain, but i think i'm right. they were just trying to include as many people to drum up further sales.)  marc, they are right for doing that, since that is what they are in business for.  They caved to the zelots and now call it Christmas again.  Which to me is wrong.  If i had a business, i would want it to accomidating to everyone to make the most money.  I think they were wrong in the changing CHRISTMAS TREE to a HOLIDAY TREE but that is a small thing compared to changing the way that they do business to make a select few happy.

EffMeBoobs

12-09-2006, 05:58 AM

STUGOTS1 wrote: Should Wal-Mart call it Christmas or the Holidays? think for a minute, Wal-Mart has a world wide customer base with different world views and what not. what do you think? I think shenanigans.

docgoblin

12-09-2006, 06:05 AM

Last year I got sucked into this "War on Christmas" nonsense. It really doesn't matter what a stupid store does. They're just trying to make money. Who cares what their employees or ads say. It's all pretty personal in my opinion. If some clerk wishes me Happy Holidays, I'll do the same back. If they say Merry Christmas then I'm right there with them. However...If the guy working the corner Christmas Tree lot tries to sell me a "Holiday Tree" then I'm going to the lot down the street.

sailor

12-09-2006, 06:09 AM

STUGOTS1 wrote: bronxmarc wrote: merry christmas. i know jews and hindus who celebrate the commercial side of christmas. that's the business walmart is in. what holidays are we talking here? chanukah? not a real big-box-giving holiday, so no need to include it. kwanzaa? fake, invented holiday. walmart is celebrating gift giving, not any particular religion. funny thing from all the hoopla last year, tho', i believe the waltons are devout christians (not certain, but i think i'm right. they were just trying to include as many people to drum up further sales.) marc, they are right for doing that, since that is what they are in business for. They caved to the zelots and now call it Christmas again. Which to me is wrong. If i had a business, i would want it to accomidating to everyone to make the most money. I think they were wrong in the changing CHRISTMAS TREE to a HOLIDAY TREE but that is a small thing compared to changing the way that they do business to make a select few happy.  personally, i don't care either way.  i'd imagine most people feel this way, just like with gay marriage.  although i do have family who were really upset about it, and i'd hesitate to call them zealots.  :(

sr71blackbird

12-09-2006, 06:41 AM

Hannaquansmas

Don Stugots

12-09-2006, 06:50 AM

bronxmarc wrote: STUGOTS1 wrote: bronxmarc wrote: merry christmas. i know jews and hindus who celebrate the commercial side of christmas. that's the business walmart is in. what holidays are we talking here? chanukah? not a real big-box-giving holiday, so no need to include it. kwanzaa? fake, invented holiday. walmart is celebrating gift giving, not any particular religion. funny thing from all the hoopla last year, tho', i believe the waltons are devout christians (not certain, but i think i'm right. they were just trying to include as many people to drum up further sales.) marc, they are right for doing that, since that is what they are in business for. They caved to the zelots and now call it Christmas again. Which to me is wrong. If i had a business, i would want it to accomidating to everyone to make the most money. I think they were wrong in the changing CHRISTMAS TREE to a HOLIDAY TREE but that is a small thing compared to changing the way that they do business to make a select few happy. personally, i don't care either way. i'd imagine most people feel this way, just like with gay marriage. although i do have family who were really upset about it, and i'd hesitate to call them zealots. <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smilefrown2.gif" border="0" />  i only brought it up because a friend of mine called me to rant and rave for 10 mins (which keeping me on the phone for more than 3 mins. if like a root canal) about how he isnt going to stores because of this.  he went on about how this is a war against God and the catholic church (another thing that is painful for me to discuss with closed minded people).  I let him talk until he was out of breathe and then asked him if he was finshed, he said yes, then i wished him a happy hoildays and hung up.   hee hee.

sailor

12-09-2006, 08:40 AM

STUGOTS1 wrote: bronxmarc wrote: STUGOTS1 wrote: bronxmarc wrote: merry christmas. i know jews and hindus who celebrate the commercial side of christmas. that's the business walmart is in. what holidays are we talking here? chanukah? not a real big-box-giving holiday, so no need to include it. kwanzaa? fake, invented holiday. walmart is celebrating gift giving, not any particular religion. funny thing from all the hoopla last year, tho', i believe the waltons are devout christians (not certain, but i think i'm right. they were just trying to include as many people to drum up further sales.) marc, they are right for doing that, since that is what they are in business for. They caved to the zelots and now call it Christmas again. Which to me is wrong. If i had a business, i would want it to accomidating to everyone to make the most money. I think they were wrong in the changing CHRISTMAS TREE to a HOLIDAY TREE but that is a small thing compared to changing the way that they do business to make a select few happy. personally, i don't care either way. i'd imagine most people feel this way, just like with gay marriage. although i do have family who were really upset about it, and i'd hesitate to call them zealots. <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smilefrown2.gif" border="0" /> i only brought it up because a friend of mine called me to rant and rave for 10 mins (which keeping me on the phone for more than 3 mins. if like a root canal) about how he isnt going to stores because of this. he went on about how this is a war against God and the catholic church (another thing that is painful for me to discuss with closed minded people). I let him talk until he was out of breathe and then asked him if he was finshed, he said yes, then i wished him a happy hoildays and hung up.  hee hee.  yeah, we got my mother-in-law a happy holidays card just because it was too funny.

FUNKMAN

12-09-2006, 08:53 AM

STUGOTS1 wrote: FUNKMAN wrote: a menza menz6 of one, half dozen of the otherapples and applesoranges and orangesi'd say Holidays i have an uncle that says that all the time.   that's one cool uncle you got there...  <img src="/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/cool.gif" border="0" alt="Cool" title="Cool" width="20" height="20" />

Don Stugots

12-09-2006, 02:30 PM

FUNKMAN wrote: STUGOTS1 wrote: FUNKMAN wrote: a menza menz6 of one, half dozen of the otherapples and applesoranges and orangesi'd say Holidays i have an uncle that says that all the time. that's one cool uncle you got there... <img src="/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/cool.gif" border="0" alt="Cool" title="Cool" width="20" height="20" /> he was pretty cool.  then he got old and now is not cool at all.  Growing up he was the shit.