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TheMojoPin

11-01-2006, 08:08 PM

newport king wrote: and what exactly do they stand for? i've listened to a few tunes, they don't seem to be taking themselves too seriously. remember, if you dont stand for something, you'll fall for anything.They stand for being a bunch of crybaby shits who are afraid of the sun and washing their hair.  Every single emo singer sounds exactly the same...that namby-pamby, high pitched nasal whine punctuated with bouts of insipid toddler tantrum-esque screaming.If people wanna like 'em, great.  It's the genre of music that's officially pushed me into "I'm a cranky old man/you damn kids and your infernal racket"-mode.

TheArtOfTheFU

11-01-2006, 08:09 PM

I'm not into the emo gimmick, but i'm not really familiar with their music, so I can't comment. However, they're on e cover of one of the guitar mags this month, and these fellas are way too pretty for me.

newport king

11-01-2006, 08:18 PM

i dunno, im looking around on these fellas, it seems from what i'm reading they're not considered punk, or emo. to me it seems like a bit over the top pop group with a fascination with death. is it the greatest thing i've ever heard? no. is it the worst? not even close. listenable? yes.

keithy_19

11-01-2006, 08:43 PM

grlNIN wrote: I hear they're from Central Jersey...and i saw them at the Knitting Factory in...2002 or 2003 with Baby Anna. It was good times. They're from Newark New Jersey. They are also a true work your ass off to get where you are band, unlike bands such as Panic! At the Disco.The new Album is brilliant. If you actually read through the lyrics and listen to the album straight through you really get the message. It's about the fear and stress and all the other feelings associated with dying.

JesterOfSadness

11-01-2006, 09:07 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: I fucking loathe this band and everything they stand for.I agree with Mojo

TheMojoPin

11-01-2006, 09:10 PM

It's about the fear and stress and all the other feelings associated with dying.Why?Seriously, unless they are actually dying, a bunch of kids singing about dying makes zero sense and is actually borderline insulting.  THIS is how kids want to reflect upon their youth...by reflecting on death?  Fuck that...I don't want my music to be all sunshine and lollipops, but getting preached to about mortality by a bunch of pipsqueaks is, well, depressing.  Go be kids, goddammit!  You can be miserable and serious when you're adults and grown up...trust me, half the time, you don't have a choice.Unless these mooks all have terminal diseases or are planning to go out Cobain-style, their schtick sounds incredibly forced and tedious.

This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 11-2-06 @ 1:11 AM

keithy_19

11-01-2006, 09:40 PM

TheMojoPin wrote:  It's about the fear and stress and all the other feelings associated with dying.  Why?Seriously, unless they are actually dying, a bunch of kids singing about dying makes zero sense and is actually borderline insulting.  THIS is how kids want to reflect upon their youth...by reflecting on death?  Fuck that...I don't want my music to be all sunshine and lollipops, but getting preached to about mortality by a bunch of pipsqueaks is, well, depressing.  Go be kids, goddammit!  You can be miserable and serious when you're adults and grown up...trust me, half the time, you don't have a choice.Unless these mooks all have terminal diseases or are planning to go out Cobain-style, their schtick sounds incredibly forced and tedious.This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 11-2-06 @ 1:11 AM Perhaps, the band memebrs have dealt with a person dying. In fact, I'd imagine it's very likely. The whole album is basically about cancer. Maybe the band had a friend who died of cancer, or was living through it and felt moved to write the album. And Gerard Way is 29, so he's not a kid. Obviously their music is being marketed to the younger generation, but I don't think the band is trying to create an image for the kids of this country.

TheMojoPin

11-01-2006, 09:44 PM

All of their songs/videos seem to be about death, so it's not just this album.  I buy the concept album idea, but their clearly just flogging this "morgue chic" gimmick for the woe-is-me floppy hair, tight pants, white belt crowd.Trust me, I have no problems with bands wallowing in misery from time to time, but there's something so spineless about this emo trend.  Self-pity, hey, great...but back it up with some rock every so often.  The good "miserable" bands could back that up with some humor or creepiness or even scary anger.  All of these guys just seem like they're crying and complaining constantly and nothing else.And there's no way that guy is 29.  That's insanely pathetic if he is.  If he's older than me then there's absolutely no excuse for him.

This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 11-2-06 @ 1:49 AM

grlNIN

11-01-2006, 09:50 PM

Thanks for the heartfelt mini biography of the band, Keith but i was merely saying that i saw them when i was like 18. I listen to MUCh better music now, like, The Killers.

TheMojoPin

11-01-2006, 09:51 PM

grlNIN wrote: Thanks for the heartfelt mini biography of the band, Keith but i was merely saying that i saw them when i was like 18. I listen to MUCh better music now, like, The Killers. There should be a law against you, woman.

grlNIN

11-01-2006, 09:54 PM

If there were, you'd probably break it.

BYOBKenobi

11-01-2006, 10:06 PM

I really liked "I'm not okay" and I just caught this new single today and got a kick out of it.  Am I a fan?  I don't think that's the case, but they do have a catchy sound.  I don't even give a fuck about the lyrics because without knowing anything about them you know what they are going to be singing about.... woa is me... poor me... sad sad sad.  Of all these "emo" bands I think they are a standout. EDIT: I seriously think what's really stopping me from being a fan of this band is the stupid gimmick.  I just don't like the "floppy hair, tight jeans, white belt" shit.  You can't listen to this stuff without being associated with that damn gimmick.

This message was edited by BYOBKenobi on 11-2-06 @ 2:08 AM

narc

11-01-2006, 10:50 PM

I can see why others might like this, but it's not my thing. The lead singer can't sing very well. I also don't like the part where he whines that his pussy hurts or whatever.

keithy_19

11-01-2006, 11:41 PM

narc wrote: I can see why others might like this, but it's not my thing. The lead singer can't sing very well. I also don't like the part where he whines that his pussy hurts or whatever. His pussy hurts cause in grammar school he played Peter Pan in Peter Pan. That harnass must have really fucking did a number. And for a band that has the dark side, but also plays really rocking music, Alkaline Trio delivers as one of the best bands in punk music today.

fezident

11-01-2006, 11:53 PM

The new album is a fucking EPIC.It really is more than one kind of music. Pop...70ies glam...arena rock... emo.... 80ies hair metal...etc etc. Heck, there's even some frickin' RAGTIME music on there!It reminds me, in some ways, of what Queen was doing with ANATO and ADATR.  Those records, as well as THE BLACK PARADE are meant to be experienced as a whole.  Some bands make an album that is a compilation of singles. THE BLACK PARADE is not that record.I totally understand why some people hate it though.  It's very heavy on "style".  A lot of people aren't into that kinda thing.  Personally, I don't see why people can't seperate the bands IMAGE from their MUSIC but, that's what makes us different.  If this band wants to wear white belts....I don't give a flying fuck.  I can't see their white leather belts when I'm listening to it and, to be honest, I'm not really distracted by it when I see their videos.

Sheeplovr

11-02-2006, 03:47 AM

one ofthese bands actully be a bit creative and starts anger well
im probably nto going to get the album but what i saw on snl was pretty
alright i was embarssed enjoying it but they put on a good show and the
songs was pretty good exact the black parade song goes into the popponk
riff in the middle but then it goes back and then the other song this isnt the virst concept album for them to dont they have the aldbum about vampires?before
they were all giant i rememebr how people whould make fun of them
because they were all like ohh blood vampire death bla bla i didnt
think they would get so big then they had that big video hit and blew
up remember them playing little places in nj the people i know who know
some of them always say there nice dudes not jerks my freind was on tour with them and his band is a bunch of jerks i
cant go out and hate on a band because of the marketing and junk cause
its like hey its not for me so i either dont have to hear it wich
really i dont unless i watch that episode of snl again mojo your foaming like a right to lifer over the morning after pill now
the other bands are all pretty lame out of all the bands right now you
gotta say the least if anythign is the my chemcial romance mojo you
call it the new hair metal it is cause the way the kids dress and wear
there hair comes first then the music but sometimes you get a good time
and in 20 years youll hear a song and be all singing along liek a
sucker oh another thing you cant be yellign at someone for the
concept album David bowies not from mars Roger Daltrey was never death
dumb and blind it just composing 
and really chemcial romance is so not depressing if you can get depressed by that you must weap at the toss of a sock i spent too much time jsut wrting this and really i dont care 

This message was edited by Sheeplovr on 11-2-06 @ 7:49 AM

Death Metal Moe

11-02-2006, 04:36 AM

newport king wrote: Only 2 people that we're too cool for the room??? I was expecting more. Just to let you know, not liking this faggot music doesn't make me too cool for the room, it's just my opinion and I will never like this bullshit Emo style of music and lyrics that seems to be sweeping through different genres of music right now. I am too cool for the room, it's just that this doesn't make me too cool, it's other things.

Reephdweller

11-02-2006, 05:06 AM

Well I like the song. I haven't heard much of anything else aside from that song Helena. I have a few days off so I'll be giving the album a good listen. I'm not much of a emo music fan though I do like some of the All American Rejects and some Taking Back Sunday music.

Earlshog

11-02-2006, 05:20 AM

TheMojoPin wrote: I fucking loathe this band and everything they stand for.Emo is the new hair metal.Pinkerton came out in 1996 lets not act like emo is new.  my chemical romance <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/thumbup.gif" border="0" />

TheMojoPin

11-02-2006, 05:56 AM

Earlshog wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: I fucking loathe this band and everything they stand for.Emo is the new hair metal.Pinkerton came out in 1996 lets not act like emo is new.  my chemical romance <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/thumbup.gif" border="0" />Well, if you wanna get techinical, it started here in DC with groups like Rites of Spring and Embrace, featuring Ian and Guy from Fugazi, so I can't really fault that.  I guess it's more accurate to call the shit today "nu-emo" just like Limp Bizkit et al were "nu metal" in the 90's.I'll give MCR that they make creative and entertaining videos...but as someone kinda touched on, it really makes them seem more about the image and style than the actual music.  And I really can't warp my head around the singer being a few months away from 30.  Straight up, he is singing the music of someone not even old enough to drink.  Dude's living in denial.

Earlshog

11-02-2006, 06:27 AM

TheMojoPin wrote: Earlshog wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: I fucking loathe this band and everything they stand for.Emo is the new hair metal.Pinkerton came out in 1996 lets not act like emo is new.  my chemical romance <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/thumbup.gif" border="0" />Well, if you wanna get techinical, it started here in DC with groups like Rites of Spring and Embrace, featuring Ian and Guy from Fugazi, so I can't really fault that.  I guess it's more accurate to call the shit today "nu-emo" just like Limp Bizkit et al were "nu metal" in the 90's.I'll give MCR that they make creative and entertaining videos...but as someone kinda touched on, it really makes them seem more about the image and style than the actual music.  And I really can't warp my head around the singer being a few months away from 30.  Straight up, he is singing the music of someone not even old enough to drink.  Dude's living in denial.You are correct I was just referencing when it became more mainstream. To trash My Chemical Romance just because they are linked with shit bands like Good Charlotte and Panic at the Disco is not fair. The hairband analogy was used earlier. Its like saying Ozzy and Guns N Roses sucked cause they teased there hair like Warrant and Winger. Who cares how old the band is, what they dress like, where they grew up. Listen to the music if you feel it you do if you don't you don't.

Sheeplovr

11-02-2006, 06:48 AM

man genre nameing stinks

Death Metal Moe

11-02-2006, 07:05 AM

Earlshog wrote: Who cares how old the band is, what they dress like, where they grew up. Listen to the music if you feel it you do if you don't you don't. I don't care how old they are, what they dress  or where they grew up.  I care that the music is garbage and it reminds me of other music that I find to be garbage.But yea, all music isn't for everybody so I don't listen, but this was a discussion started with the question "Your thoughts on them?"  So don't act so surprised that this went into a dicussion on opinions of the band.

grlNIN

11-02-2006, 07:11 AM

When music is catchy it's catchy but i still can't believe that guy is going to be 30.That's a little creepster.

angrymissy

11-02-2006, 07:21 AM

MCR isn't emo.  They were considered horrorcore or some crap like that.  Anyway I really like them.  Don't knock em unless you listen to the rest of their music.  Jeff hated them at first andhe likes them now

fezident

11-02-2006, 07:37 AM

All I was sayin' about the "style over substance" thing is..... ya gotta put these things in their proper context.  I mean, the band DOES have to market themselves.  It doesn't change the QUALITY of their music.Look at what Peter Gabriel used to wear.  Or David Bowie.  Or even people like Rick Wakeman etc etc.  Even they cringe when they look at old pictures of THEMSELVES.  Sure, there were always bands like Ac/Dc that kinda sorta dressed like their audience but, let's not pretend like there aren't a squllion other bands that LOOKED ridiculous but SOUNDED great.

Death Metal Moe

11-02-2006, 07:39 AM

Well that might apply here if they sounded great.  They sound like everything else trying to do pop/screaming with that horrific EMO overtone.If life is so fucking hard, kill yourself and stop compaining.

Freakshow

11-02-2006, 07:40 AM

Earlshog wrote:
Who cares how old the band is, what they dress like, where they grew up. Listen to the music if you feel it you do if you don't you don't. 

They care what they dress like and where they grew up and how old they are. Therefore it's fair game. If this was about new kids on the block, it's be perfectly acceptable talking about how they dress and how old they are.

Earlshog

11-02-2006, 07:43 AM

Death Metal Moe wrote: Earlshog wrote: Who cares how old the band is, what they dress like, where they grew up. Listen to the music if you feel it you do if you don't you don't. I don't care how old they are, what they dress  or where they grew up.  I care that the music is garbage and it reminds me of other music that I find to be garbage.But yea, all music isn't for everybody so I don't listen, but this was a discussion started with the question "Your thoughts on them?"  So don't act so surprised that this went into a dicussion on opinions of the band.I am not surprised and I have no problem with people stating if they are pro or con MCR, that is the point of this thread. Musical taste is objective there is no wrong or right. Its a personal opinion/preference.My point was its wrong (to me at least) to say they suck because they may look like other poppy Z100 emo bands or that the lead singer is 29.

angrymissy

11-02-2006, 07:43 AM

Death Metal Moe wrote: Well that might apply here if they sounded great.  They sound like everything else trying to do pop/screaming with that horrific EMO overtone.If life is so fucking hard, kill yourself and stop compaining.They're not emo.  I haven't heard the new album, but the previous 2 weren't.  Maybe Helena sounded a little emo, but the album previous to that You Brought me Your Bullets, is DEF not emo.

Earlshog

11-02-2006, 07:52 AM

Freakshow wrote: Earlshog wrote: Who cares how old the band is, what they dress like, where they grew up. Listen to the music if you feel it you do if you don't you don't.   They care what they dress like and where they grew up and how old they are. Therefore it's fair game. If this was about new kids on the block, it's be perfectly acceptable talking about how they dress and how old they are. I'd rather listen to someone who is dressed like a douche and plays great music then someone who is dressed to the nines and sucks. I don't get your NKOTB reference. If I remember correctly they dressed the way young suburbian white boys dressed in 1990. I had no problem with that. I didn't like the music (although Jordan Knight was dreamy.... no homo) but that was a matter of personal preference.

Dirtybird12

11-02-2006, 07:55 AM

i dont hate em. but i can only take them in small doses. one of the few "newer bands" i don't hate

Freakshow

11-02-2006, 08:02 AM

<hr color="cococo" align="left">Earlshog wrote: Freakshow wrote: Earlshog wrote: Who cares how old the band is, what they dress like, where they grew up. Listen to the music if you feel it you do if you don't you don't. ÿÿThey care what they dress like and where they grew up and how old they are. Therefore it's fair game. If this was about new kids on the block, it's be perfectly acceptable talking about how they dress and how old they are. I'd rather listen to someone who is dressed like a douche and plays great music then someone who is dressed to the nines and sucks. I don't get your NKOTB reference. If I remember correctly they dressed the way youngÿsuburbian white boys dressed in 1990. I had no problem with that. I didn't like the music (although Jordan Knightÿwas dreamy.... no homo)ÿbut that was a matter of personal preference. <hr color="cococo" align="left">

I'm trying real hard to think of a band that dressed like douches and rocked hard. If you rock hard, you don't have to resort to some gimmick where you have a $400 haircut and are paler than death.

This message was edited by Freakshow on 11-2-06 @ 12:03 PM

Sheeplovr

11-02-2006, 08:04 AM

I'm trying real hard to think of a band that dressed like douches and rock hardSmashing Pumpkins

TheMojoPin

11-02-2006, 08:35 AM

Sheeplovr wrote:  I'm trying real hard to think of a band that dressed like douches and rock hard  Smashing Pumpkins Helped that they were fronted by a douche, too.

Kevin

11-02-2006, 08:42 AM

CircusFreak wrote: i dont hate em. but i can only take them in small doses. one of the few "newer bands" i don't hateAgreed.

TheMojoPin

11-02-2006, 08:47 AM

It drives me insane that bands like Fall Out Boy and MCR and the Used and AFI and Taking Back Sunday and Panic! At The Disco and Thursday, etc. all cry about not being emo when 90% of their music sounds the same.  That same nasally whine that sounds like they're pinching their nostrils as they punch themselves in the balls to get that extra "oomph" in their sobbing.  YOU ALL SOUND ALMOST THE SAME, DEAL WITH IT.  They all rock the eye shadow, they all have the greasy, floppy hair, the same tight girl pants with the same studded/white belts, the same yeowling "singing" sprinkled with some ass screaming like he's getting the piercing his parents paid for yanked out with a pair of pliers, the same crying about being dumped and unpopular even though they're banging thousands of self-loathing Hot Topic junkies at the drop of a trucker's cap.  MCR is seemingly getting a break because they've sprinkled some goth superficialities over their usual emo hooplah, which is bullshit since that means they're just ripping off AFI, who were just jumping on the bandwagon themselves when they got tired of being the shittier west coast version of Minor Threat that nobody listened to for years.  This whole genre/movement is so incestuous and forced...If people like the music, that's fine.  I just can't imagine how anyone thinks this anything even remotely original or important or even genuine.  These idiots are all thinking nobody else has listened to The Shape of Punk to Come...WE HAVE.  THE JIG IS UP.  THAT SHIT WAS OLD WHEN NATION OF ULYSSES WAS DOING IT.Fuck, THAT'S why this is bugging me...this is all just raping and perverting the classic DC hardcore/post-hardcore scene.  BASTARDS!  We have so little!  STOP RUINING IT!

This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 11-2-06 @ 12:48 PM

Freakshow

11-02-2006, 08:58 AM

wikipedia list My Chemical Romance as 'post-hardcore'.

and then it has the most vague paragraph i've ever read in my life...

In recent times post-hardcore has also been used to refer to bands such as Thursday or Saosin. All these genres make post-hardcore a genre of its own due to the fact that it incorporates many of these but also adds a different emotion to the music. Many people incorrectly dub post-hardcore "screamo" or "emo". However, screamo is a different genre altogether, though they often go hand in hand. "Screamo" is more-or-less angry emo. Post-hardcore is usually moderately fast and normally contains shouting (not always screaming). The shouting in post-hardcore is different from that of hardcore because while they are shouting you can still make out the vocalist's singing voice. Post-hardcore still contains the complicated guitar riffs of the hardcore music genre, but the sound is much clearer and the bass is usually very entwined with the guitar and is usually very complex.

jetdog

11-02-2006, 09:05 AM

TheMojoPin wrote: It
drives me insane that bands like Fall Out Boy and MCR and the Used and
AFI and Taking Back Sunday and Panic! At The Disco and Thursday, etc.
all cry about not being emo when 90% of their music sounds the same.
That same nasally whine that sounds like they're pinching their
nostrils as they punch themselves in the balls to get that extra
"oomph" in their sobbing. YOU ALL SOUND ALMOST THE SAME, DEAL WITH IT.
They all rock the eye shadow, they all have the greasy, floppy hair,
the same tight girl pants with the same studded/white belts, the same
yeowling "singing" sprinkled with some ass screaming like he's getting
the piercing his parents paid for yanked out with a pair of pliers, the
same crying about being dumped and unpopular even though they're
banging thousands of self-loathing Hot Topic junkies at the drop of a
trucker's cap. MCR is seemingly getting a break because they've
sprinkled some goth superficialities over their usual emo hooplah,
which is bullshit since that means they're just ripping off AFI, who
were just jumping on the bandwagon themselves when they got tired of
being the shittier west coast version of Minor Threat that nobody
listened to for years. This whole genre/movement is so incestuous and
forced...If people like the music, that's fine. I just can't
imagine how anyone thinks this anything even remotely original or
important or even genuine. These idiots are all thinking nobody else
has listened to The Shape of Punk to Come...WE HAVE. THE JIG IS UP. THAT SHIT WAS OLD WHEN NATION OF ULYSSES WAS DOING IT.Fuck,
THAT'S why this is bugging me...this is all just raping and perverting
the classic DC hardcore/post-hardcore scene. BASTARDS! We have so
little! STOP RUINING IT!

This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 11-2-06 @ 12:48 PM Insert little clapping hands animation here.Seriously, fuck these new bands, they really do all sound the same.  Who's doing something new? <blockquote />

TheMojoPin

11-02-2006, 09:05 AM

Freakshow wrote: wikipedia list My Chemical Romance as 'post-hardcore'. and then it has the most vague paragraph i've ever read in my life... In recent times post-hardcore has also been used to refer to bands such as Thursday or Saosin. All these genres make post-hardcore a genre of its own due to the fact that it incorporates many of these but also adds a different emotion to the music. Many people incorrectly dub post-hardcore "screamo" or "emo". However, screamo is a different genre altogether, though they often go hand in hand. "Screamo" is more-or-less angry emo. Post-hardcore is usually moderately fast and normally contains shouting (not always screaming). The shouting in post-hardcore is different from that of hardcore because while they are shouting you can still make out the vocalist's singing voice. Post-hardcore still contains the complicated guitar riffs of the hardcore music genre, but the sound is much clearer and the bass is usually very entwined with the guitar and is usually very complex. They key to that is that it totally avoids trying to explain what emo actually is because THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE.  Post-hardcore bands don't really exist anymore...the best example I can think of one recently was DC's own the Dismemberment Plan, or the last 3 Fugazi albums, non of which sounds even remotely close to MCR.That these guys and their ilk are getting violently bottled at the UK festivals kinda mkes it all OK.  Though it probably just makes them cry, and then they have more to write about.  What a crappy catch-22.

grlNIN

11-02-2006, 09:28 AM

Old, OLD AFI is not like the new AFI, like, at all.

TheMojoPin

11-02-2006, 09:33 AM

grlNIN wrote: Old, OLD AFI is not like the new AFI, like, at all. AFI, who were just jumping on the bandwagon themselves when they got tired of being the shittier west coast version of Minor Threat that nobody listened to for years.

grlNIN

11-02-2006, 09:36 AM

Ok, Sorry Mr. IWriteThings you got me, i didn't read half of this thread. I go now.

keithy_19

11-02-2006, 09:37 AM

Earlshog wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: Earlshog wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: I fucking loathe this band and everything they stand for.Emo is the new hair metal.Pinkerton came out in 1996 lets not act like emo is new. Well, if you wanna get techinical, it started here in DC with groups like Rites of Spring and Embrace, featuring Ian and Guy from Fugazi, so I can't really fault that.  I guess it's more accurate to call the shit today "nu-emo" just like Limp Bizkit et al were "nu metal" in the 90's.You are correct I was just referencing when it became more mainstream.  Unfortunately, Pinkerton was a terrible flop. So in '96 no one liked it much. It was "rediscovered" by people later on. And the most influential "emo" bands are: Rites of Spring, Embrace, Sunny Day Real Estate, and Jawbreaker, and weezer. (for one album at least)

This message was edited by keithy_19 on 11-2-06 @ 1:45 PM

keithy_19

11-02-2006, 09:44 AM

Seriously, fuck these new bands, they really do all sound the same.  Who's doing something new?  <a href="http://www.myspace.com/rampantband">www.myspace.com/rampantband</a><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/innocent.gif" border="0" />

Kurtis9

11-02-2006, 11:36 AM

Does anyone else besides me get them confused with just about a million other post-punk-hardcore-emo-rock bands out there? 30 Seconds to Mars, the Used, Avenge Sevenfold, I know they all sound a little different, but isn't the look at least played? I mean, the Cure did it, Echo and the Bunnymen, Bauhaus, are they all flattered or wish these new bands would do something a little different? I don't know, I don't think you can ever win with music opinions...That is my pathetic rant and I am sticking to it.

fezident

11-02-2006, 11:38 AM

Mojo, this whole "so similar to each other it hurts" thing is not new.  The business is based on it.  Always has been.A lot of these emo/screamo bands are interchangable, much like the Nu-metal bands were a few years ago.  The way boy-bands were. The way EVERY SINGLE MOTOWN act was interchangeable.  Same goes for every "all black, armband, long stringy hair, scruffy faced" death metal metal band. All hardcore bands have a similar look and vibe.  Country acts are all about the tight blue denim and the button down shirts. Don't forget the cowboy hat!And we don't even have to mention how similar almost every rap act is.Bands fall in to genres. Just like movies.  They are SUPPOSED to be similar.  It's not a flaw.  It's by design.I guess what I'm saying is... the copycat thing is nothing new.  Why do you have such a hate on for MCR?  If anything....other bands are copying THEM.  I almost feel like if you were going to give ANY of these bands credit...it should be them. (or The Used)

TheMojoPin

11-02-2006, 11:52 AM

fezident wrote:   Mojo, this whole "so similar to each other it hurts" thing is not new.  The business is based on it.  Always has been.A lot of these emo/screamo bands are interchangable, much like the Nu-metal bands were a few years ago.  The way boy-bands were. The way EVERY SINGLE MOTOWN act was interchangeable.  Same goes for every "all black, armband, long stringy hair, scruffy faced" death metal metal band. All hardcore bands have a similar look and vibe.  Country acts are all about the tight blue denim and the button down shirts. Don't forget the cowboy hat!And we don't even have to mention how similar almost every rap act is.Bands fall in to genres. Just like movies.  They are SUPPOSED to be similar.  It's not a flaw.  It's by design.I guess what I'm saying is... the copycat thing is nothing new.  Why do you have such a hate on for MCR?  If anything....other bands are copying THEM.  I almost feel like if you were going to give ANY of these bands credit...it should be them. (or The Used)This is the worst argument FOR a band I have ever seen.  Your excuse for MCR's non-identity and cultural/musical recycling is pointing to all the other crappy acts in other genres that do the same thing?  Trying to use boy bands and nu-metal and pop country to prop up MCR?  I don't understand the logic in that at all.  If anything, you made my arguments for me.  Shitty bands in any genre tend to recycle and imitate each other ad nauseum.  Nobody's letting them off the hook...this thread was about MCR so I'm focusing on them and their music.And the great Motown acts seperated themselves from the heard.  There were plenty of also-rans and hangers-on in that era, but the best of the best were all on their own.Typically the good bands in any genre are those that seperate themselves from the herd and try something new.  I don't see how MCR are doing that.  They jumped on the emo bandwagon, then tweeked it with a little gothiness, and now they're ripping off Queen.  And like I mentioned, bands like AFI (blech!) and Refused were doing MCR's schtick when MCR's singer was just a pale, fat-bodied nobody.Like I said, if people want to like them, alright, go for it.  I like plenty of bands other people no doubt hate, so whatever.  I just can't stand them getting praise for being so "new" or "original" when they're as trad-rock as they come.

narc

11-02-2006, 12:06 PM

I thought this was "screamcore." Which has to be my favorite name for a genre of music. All I know is that I've heard two songs by this group now. "Helena," which I'd rather denut myself than listen to, and now this song. This song was better, but it still wasn't good. I can't get past the fact that the lead singer has a shitty singing voice.

angrymissy

11-02-2006, 12:10 PM

They're not screamcoreThey're not emo.  Emo is fucking DashboardThey really actually have a combo of a lot of musical styles.I don't think half of you have actually LISTENED to any of their albums, only the singles.  I just picked up black parade today and will see what I think.  I loved You Brought me Your Bullets... and Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge

narc

11-02-2006, 12:15 PM

angrymissy wrote: They're not screamcoreThey're not emo. Emo is fucking DashboardThey really actually have a combo of a lot of musical styles.I don't think half of you have actually LISTENED to any of their albums, only the singles. I just picked up black parade today and will see what I think. I loved You Brought me Your Bullets... and Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge  That's a fair point, but like it or not, I (and other people I imagine) judge albums by the singles we've heard, and base our decision on whether to listen to more than those singles. Either that or you have a friend who gets you into it or whatever.

fezident

11-02-2006, 12:15 PM

Oh. We're saying two different things.I never gave MCR credit for being new or original. I LIKE that they were their influences on their sleeves.  They brought what they brought to the table and other bands followed them.  Look...my fave bands of all time are Cheap Trick & Jellyfish. Not exactly groundbreaking stuff.  They are so amazingly inspired the Beatles that's it boarders on being an all-out tribute.  And Marvelous 3 (my other fave band) is one step furthur. They love Cheap Trick!  I'm the LAST person that should comment on liking "original" music.   Having said all that, In my earlier post I did list a BUNCH of different bands and genres.  Everything from Motown to Numetal.  You have to admit...they all follow a template. A blueprint. A business model.  Whatever you wanna call it.  It was/is cookie cutter.  Regardless of genre.I don't know what bands you're passionate about. Maybe I like them, maybe I don't. But I can guarantee that -whoever you love-, there are 50 bands that look and sound just like 'em.  Originality is rare. You can only be "first" once. After that....it's just a variation.  MCR isn't pretending to reinvent the wheel.  But to their fans...it sounds fresh.  Those kids don't own ANATO or ADATR or any other Queen record.  When they wanna hear an overproduced epic record with lots of theatrics, they look to MCR.

narc

11-02-2006, 12:27 PM

fezident wrote: Oh. We're saying two different things.I never gave MCR credit for being new or original. I LIKE that they were their influences on their sleeves. They brought what they brought to the table and other bands followed them. Look...my fave bands of all time are Cheap Trick & Jellyfish. Not exactly groundbreaking stuff. They are so amazingly inspired the Beatles that's it boarders on being an all-out tribute. And Marvelous 3 (my other fave band) is one step furthur. They love Cheap Trick! I'm the LAST person that should comment on liking "original" music. Having said all that, In my earlier post I did list a BUNCH of different bands and genres. Everything from Motown to Numetal. You have to admit...they all follow a template. A blueprint. A business model. Whatever you wanna call it. It was/is cookie cutter. Regardless of genre.I don't know what bands you're passionate about. Maybe I like them, maybe I don't. But I can guarantee that -whoever you love-, there are 50 bands that look and sound just like 'em. Originality is rare. You can only be "first" once. After that....it's just a variation. MCR isn't pretending to reinvent the wheel. But to their fans...it sounds fresh. Those kids don't own ANATO or ADATR or any other Queen record. When they wanna hear an overproduced epic record with lots of theatrics, they look to MCR.   I keep bringing this up, but nobody seems to be addressing it.One of the first things I got from that single was a Queen vibe. It didn't bother me. If they had been able to pull it off, I would've thought cool, because I loves me some Queen. But, the difference between them was that Freddy Mercury has a gorgeous voice and this guy doesn't. Freddy Mercury also seemed more hetero than this guy too, which is ironic.

nate1000

11-02-2006, 12:44 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: Emo is the new hair metal.QFT

angrymissy

11-02-2006, 12:55 PM

I feel horribly lame that I'm defending MCRI'm usually the old rotten person shaking my cane and yelling that kids don't know anything about music these days.

This message was edited by angrymissy on 11-2-06 @ 4:55 PM

Kevin

11-02-2006, 01:00 PM

I am flabbergasted that there is a 3 page thread on them.

TheMojoPin

11-02-2006, 01:08 PM

fezident wrote: Oh. We're saying two different things.I never gave MCR credit for being new or original. I LIKE that they were their influences on their sleeves.  They brought what they brought to the table and other bands followed them.  Look...my fave bands of all time are Cheap Trick & Jellyfish. Not exactly groundbreaking stuff.  They are so amazingly inspired the Beatles that's it boarders on being an all-out tribute.  And Marvelous 3 (my other fave band) is one step furthur. They love Cheap Trick!  I'm the LAST person that should comment on liking "original" music.   Having said all that, In my earlier post I did list a BUNCH of different bands and genres.  Everything from Motown to Numetal.  You have to admit...they all follow a template. A blueprint. A business model.  Whatever you wanna call it.  It was/is cookie cutter.  Regardless of genre.I don't know what bands you're passionate about. Maybe I like them, maybe I don't. But I can guarantee that -whoever you love-, there are 50 bands that look and sound just like 'em.  Originality is rare. You can only be "first" once. After that....it's just a variation.  MCR isn't pretending to reinvent the wheel.  But to their fans...it sounds fresh.  Those kids don't own ANATO or ADATR or any other Queen record.  When they wanna hear an overproduced epic record with lots of theatrics, they look to MCR.   I agree 100% that true originality is something rare with most musical acts.  I can count on one hand the number of truly new "sounds" I've come across with the thousands of CD's I own.  That said, however, there are degrees of influence/homage/ripping-off/etc. and personally I find MCR waaaaaaaaay on the negative side of the spectrum.  To me they sound like a slapped together pastiche of so many obvious influences that it just grates.  Top it off with that they seem equally or even more concerned with their image as compared to their music and they simply rub me the wrong way.

TheMojoPin

11-02-2006, 01:16 PM

angrymissy wrote: They're not screamcoreThey're not emo.  Emo is fucking DashboardThey really actually have a combo of a lot of musical styles.I don't think half of you have actually LISTENED to any of their albums, only the singles.  I just picked up black parade today and will see what I think.  I loved You Brought me Your Bullets... and Three Cheers for Sweet RevengeI'm sorry, but I think it's not true when you say that you can't judge a band by their singles.  It's one thing if this is there 1st song that I can hear and I'm judging them on that alone, but by now this is easily the 6th single I've heard, either through radio or TV or movies or compilations of wherever.  I can't make a reasoned opinion of a band based on 6 songs, 4 of which came from the same album?  I've never come across a band that has half a dozen songs in a row that I can't stand and are sitting on some goldmine of a catalog that's going to blow my mind in complete contrast to the aural dreck I've heard so far.

Reephdweller

11-02-2006, 02:20 PM

While I understand the arguments about these kinds of bands that do nothing but cry about life and no dispair, I also think that there's plenty of bands and artists that have made successful careers out of running on themes, such as Ozzy..singing about death and sadness for over 30 years now. While I love a of Ozzy's music and Sabbath it's safe to say that bands like MCR are just like others. If people buy it then screamo or emo kind of music will continue with bands like these.

angrymissy

11-02-2006, 02:52 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: angrymissy wrote: They're not screamcoreThey're not emo.  Emo is fucking DashboardThey really actually have a combo of a lot of musical styles.I don't think half of you have actually LISTENED to any of their albums, only the singles.  I just picked up black parade today and will see what I think.  I loved You Brought me Your Bullets... and Three Cheers for Sweet RevengeI'm sorry, but I think it's not true when you say that you can't judge a band by their singles.  It's one thing if this is there 1st song that I can hear and I'm judging them on that alone, but by now this is easily the 6th single I've heard, either through radio or TV or movies or compilations of wherever.  I can't make a reasoned opinion of a band based on 6 songs, 4 of which came from the same album?  I've never come across a band that has half a dozen songs in a row that I can't stand and are sitting on some goldmine of a catalog that's going to blow my mind in complete contrast to the aural dreck I've heard so far.Maybe it's not for you.  The songs that were not singles on You Brought Me Your Bullets were a lot different from the singles.

TheMojoPin

11-02-2006, 02:56 PM

angrymissy wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: angrymissy wrote: They're not screamcoreThey're not emo.  Emo is fucking DashboardThey really actually have a combo of a lot of musical styles.I don't think half of you have actually LISTENED to any of their albums, only the singles.  I just picked up black parade today and will see what I think.  I loved You Brought me Your Bullets... and Three Cheers for Sweet RevengeI'm sorry, but I think it's not true when you say that you can't judge a band by their singles.  It's one thing if this is there 1st song that I can hear and I'm judging them on that alone, but by now this is easily the 6th single I've heard, either through radio or TV or movies or compilations of wherever.  I can't make a reasoned opinion of a band based on 6 songs, 4 of which came from the same album?  I've never come across a band that has half a dozen songs in a row that I can't stand and are sitting on some goldmine of a catalog that's going to blow my mind in complete contrast to the aural dreck I've heard so far.Maybe it's not for you.  The songs that were not singles on You Brought Me Your Bullets were a lot different from the singles.Obviously there's more out there.  My point is that hearing at least 6 songs ad nauseum plus an accompying media bombardment is more than enough to make a semi-educated judgement of whether or not one likes what they're hearing.  It simply doesn't happen that a band's catalog sounds completely different from all 6 songs that they've released so far in their career.  A half dozen songs and videos is more than enough to get a good idea of what a band is about musically and image-wise.

angrymissy

11-02-2006, 03:00 PM

eh, for all I know I will hate Black Parade.  Like I said, I don't know why I like them.  My usual music tastes are 90's indie rock.

keithy_19

11-02-2006, 04:17 PM

angrymissy wrote: eh, for all I know I will hate Black Parade.  Like I said, I don't know why I like them.  My usual music tastes are 90's indie rock.Please don't abandon the fight...The Black Parade is an awesome album. Listen to it a few times through. Fromt he first song, to the last song(which is the 14th unlabeled track which starts after some silence). We need you to help us prove Mojo wrong!<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smoke.gif" border="0" />

TheMojoPin

11-02-2006, 07:07 PM

Oh, Keithy.  I know I'll win because one day you'll grow up and be free of the shackles of youth.  Nobody can beat time...even Fatface McEmopants is about to turn 30.

keithy_19

11-02-2006, 11:01 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: Oh, Keithy.  I know I'll win because one day you'll grow up and be free of the shackles of youth.  Nobody can beat time...even Fatface McEmopants is about to turn 30. It'll never die Mojo. Emo is forever. Forever!<img height="359" src="http://www.orlyowl.com/upload/files/Emo-baby.gif" width="500" border="0" />

keithy_19

11-02-2006, 11:06 PM

In case any one is interested, there is a great book out by Andy Greenwald which focuses on emo. It goes through the time periods of Minor Threat, and how it influenced the first emo band, Rites of Spring, up until current day bands such a Dashboard Confessional. The book is of course entitled: "Nothing Feels Good".

angrymissy

11-03-2006, 04:47 AM

I love the new album.

Sheeplovr

11-03-2006, 04:51 AM

I love the new albumwhy don't you marry it

angrymissy

11-03-2006, 04:52 AM

Sheeplovr wrote:  I love the new album  why don't you marry it Jeff won't grant me a divorce

Reephdweller

11-03-2006, 05:25 AM

What I've heard so far from the album I like a lot.

angrymissy

11-03-2006, 06:28 AM

There's a song on there called Cancer, it's only like 2 minutes long but it's my favorite one

Sheeplovr

11-03-2006, 06:29 AM

Jeff won't grant me a divorcedamn and i was hopeing to get to go to another missy wedding

keithy_19

11-03-2006, 10:05 AM

angrymissy wrote: There's a song on there called Cancer, it's only like 2 minutes long but it's my favorite oneIt's a good song. I personally like Famous Last Words a lot too. And Teenagers is one of the catchiest songs I've heard in a long time, even though in the chorus it sounds like they're going to start singing that little poka-dot bikini song.

sr71blackbird

11-03-2006, 06:28 PM

angrymissy wrote: There's a song on there called Cancer, it's only like 2 minutes long but it's my favorite oneYeah, I listened to that song today, I like it a lot. The album itself is great.

keithy_19

11-04-2006, 02:27 PM

From Nothing Feels Good: Punk Rock, Teenagers, and Emo."1. Emo is a lame word. Why would anyone int heir right mind chose to be called osmething so silly, reductive, and confusing? 2. Heard any good grunge bands lately? The last time here was a media buzzword thrown at bands, amny of them didnt't survive the impact. Before Nevermind was released, Nirvana was a punk band, mining the grooves of old Pikies and Husker Du records for inspiration. Afterwards, it was the preeminent grugne band, a musical style known more for its flannel shirts than its stylistic consistency. It's the marketers, the publicists, and the radio formatters who refer to music by genre, certainly not bands themselves. (When was the last time you heard the Red Hot Chili Peppers refer to themselves as a "modern rock act or, even better, the Dixie Chicks professing their solidarity with the "Triple A" scene?) Nobody wants to hitch their careers to a bandwagon. Unless of course, they wouldn't mind selling shoes.3. Read the fine print. Or, how can you agree to be something if no one knows what it is? The truth is, the thread that connects DC hardcore bands of the '80s with the lovelorn, clean cut pop-rockers of the '00s doesn't lie in the music at all; it's int he fans. Emo isn't a genre-it's far too messy and contentious for that. What the term does signify is a particular relationship between a fan and a band. It's the desire to turn a monologue into a dialogue, to be a part of the art that affects you and to connect to it on every possible level-sentiments particulary relevant in an icnreasingly corporate, suburban, and diffuse culture such as ours. Emo is a speciffic sort of teenage longing, a romantic and ultimately self-centered need to understand the bigness of the world in relation to you. It takes its cues fromt he world-changing slap of community-oriented punk, the heart-swollen pomp of power ballads, and the gee-whiz nostalgia of guitar pop. Emo is as specific as adolescence and lasts about as long. Emo is the music you carry with you-it's why your parents cry at The Big Chill, why your older sister tears up at  Say Anything or Singles. Except in emo's case, we're talking about soundtracks to real life, not a movie.As long as there are feelings, teenagers will claim that they had them first. And as long as there are teenagers, music will be labeled emo."

dereckfishboy

11-04-2006, 02:43 PM

keithy_19 wrote: From Nothing Feels Good: Punk Rock, Teenagers, and Emo."1. Emo is a lame word. Why would anyone int heir right mind chose to be called osmething so silly, reductive, and confusing? 2. Heard any good grunge bands lately? The last time here was a media buzzword thrown at bands, amny of them didnt't survive the impact. Before Nevermind was released, Nirvana was a punk band, mining the grooves of old Pikies and Husker Du records for inspiration. Afterwards, it was the preeminent grugne band, a musical style known more for its flannel shirts than its stylistic consistency. It's the marketers, the publicists, and the radio formatters who refer to music by genre, certainly not bands themselves. (When was the last time you heard the Red Hot Chili Peppers refer to themselves as a "modern rock act or, even better, the Dixie Chicks professing their solidarity with the "Triple A" scene?) Nobody wants to hitch their careers to a bandwagon. Unless of course, they wouldn't mind selling shoes.3. Read the fine print. Or, how can you agree to be something if no one knows what it is? The truth is, the thread that connects DC hardcore bands of the '80s with the lovelorn, clean cut pop-rockers of the '00s doesn't lie in the music at all; it's int he fans. Emo isn't a genre-it's far too messy and contentious for that. What the term does signify is a particular relationship between a fan and a band. It's the desire to turn a monologue into a dialogue, to be a part of the art that affects you and to connect to it on every possible level-sentiments particulary relevant in an icnreasingly corporate, suburban, and diffuse culture such as ours. Emo is a speciffic sort of teenage longing, a romantic and ultimately self-centered need to understand the bigness of the world in relation to you. It takes its cues fromt he world-changing slap of community-oriented punk, the heart-swollen pomp of power ballads, and the gee-whiz nostalgia of guitar pop. Emo is as specific as adolescence and lasts about as long. Emo is the music you carry with you-it's why your parents cry at The Big Chill, why your older sister tears up at Say Anything or Singles. Except in emo's case, we're talking about soundtracks to real life, not a movie.As long as there are feelings, teenagers will claim that they had them first. And as long as there are teenagers, music will be labeled emo."   Whatever it is, it lacks balls

angrymissy

11-04-2006, 03:00 PM

What Keithy is quoting kind of makes sense... I mean back in ye olden days when I was a teenager and Nirvana hit, you could have even considered them emo.

TheMojoPin

11-04-2006, 04:46 PM

angrymissy wrote: What Keithy is quoting kind of makes sense... I mean back in ye olden days when I was a teenager and Nirvana hit, you could have even considered them emo. But nobody did.This whole "emo is eternal/has been around forever/isn't a genre" is a load of horse hockey.

dereckfishboy

11-04-2006, 05:27 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: angrymissy wrote: What Keithy is quoting kind of makes sense... I mean back in ye olden days when I was a teenager and Nirvana hit, you could have even considered them emo. But nobody did.This whole "emo is eternal/has been around forever/isn't a genre" is a load of horse hockey.   I agree completely. It paints a pretty little picture, but it's really nothing more than a bullshit attempt to legitimize emo by lumping all forms of counter-culture into one.

Se7en

11-05-2006, 12:30 AM

TheMojoPin wrote: I fucking loathe this band and everything they stand for.Emo is the new hair metal.It's the best album of the year.I'm not joking.  Go ahead and search for critical reviews of this album.  The positive response to it is astounding.I've got it on my computer, but I haven't listened to all of it yet.  I can appreciate them bringing back the rock opera, though.

TheMojoPin

11-05-2006, 04:01 AM

Se7en wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: I fucking loathe this band and everything they stand for.Emo is the new hair metal.It's the best album of the year.I'm not joking.  Go ahead and search for critical reviews of this album.  The positive response to it is astounding.I've got it on my computer, but I haven't listened to all of it yet.  I can appreciate them bringing back the rock opera, though.So I'm wrong because of "music journalism?"Aren't they an especially liberal part of the filthy liberal media?  How can I trust anything they print?

Sheeplovr

11-05-2006, 05:15 AM

I can appreciate them bringing back the rock opera, though.when did it leave?

Maxville

11-05-2006, 06:46 AM

epo wrote: I gave up bands meant for 16 year old girls awhile ago. Bingo.

angrymissy

11-05-2006, 07:04 AM

TheMojoPin wrote: angrymissy wrote: What Keithy is quoting kind of makes sense... I mean back in ye olden days when I was a teenager and Nirvana hit, you could have even considered them emo. But nobody did.This whole "emo is eternal/has been around forever/isn't a genre" is a load of horse hockey.For example.  My little brother threw on some kind of loud music after a fight and slammed the door and went upstairs to be pissed off at us for punishing him, all emo style.I actually said, oh give it a break, we did the same shit when we were your age except blasted Nirvana, get the fuck back downstairs.

angrymissy

11-05-2006, 07:22 AM

Disclaimer:This post in no way relieves me of my right to mock emo kids, a favorite pastime of mine, which includes searching "YTMND" for "emo" and laughing for hours, or giggling under my breath every time I see a teenaged boy with one of those long banged black haircuts.Post Script: I reserve myself this right since I also dressed like a jackass in high school and was mocked.

Reephdweller

11-05-2006, 07:41 AM

TheMojoPin wrote: angrymissy wrote: What Keithy is quoting kind of makes sense... I mean back in ye olden days when I was a teenager and Nirvana hit, you could have even considered them emo. But nobody did.This whole "emo is eternal/has been around forever/isn't a genre" is a load of horse hockey.Interesting point though. If Nirvana had come out now would they be considered emo? I don't think their music was, though I'm curious if in this age if it would be lumped in with that.

angrymissy

11-05-2006, 08:16 AM

Portray sincerity Act out of loyalty Defend your true country Wish away the pain Hand out lobotomies To save little families Surrealistic fantasy Bland boring plain Hold me down in restitution Living out your date with fusion Is the whole fleece shun in master? Don't feel guilty, master writing Somebody said that they're not much like I am I know I can Make enough of the words for you to follow along I sink and then some Slippery pessimist hypocrite master Conservative communist apocalyptic bastard Thank you dear God for putting me on this Earth I feel very privileged in debt for my thirst

TheMojoPin

11-05-2006, 12:52 PM

Reefdweller wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: angrymissy wrote: What Keithy is quoting kind of makes sense... I mean back in ye olden days when I was a teenager and Nirvana hit, you could have even considered them emo. But nobody did.This whole "emo is eternal/has been around forever/isn't a genre" is a load of horse hockey.Interesting point though. If Nirvana had come out now would they be considered emo? I don't think their music was, though I'm curious if in this age if it would be lumped in with that.I don't think so...or at least I wouldn't.  There are plenty of "bleak" bands out there like Radiohead or Nirvana...I think what seperates them from the "emo" bands, in my opinion, is you get a continuing sense of anger or rage with those other bands, whereas the emo bands just seem to prefer to wallow in their own misery and cry about it.  I know plenty of people will think Nirvana just bitched and moaned, and I can easily see how they would be taken that way...I just hear more of a creepy anger or even psychosis behind that music as opposed to the emo stuff.

TheMojoPin

11-05-2006, 12:53 PM

angrymissy wrote: Disclaimer:This post in no way relieves me of my right to mock emo kids, a favorite pastime of mine, which includes searching "YTMND" for "emo" and laughing for hours, or giggling under my breath every time I see a teenaged boy with one of those long banged black haircuts.Post Script: I reserve myself this right since I also dressed like a jackass in high school and was mocked.Anytime there's an emo YTMND playing that awful Simple Plan song, it makes me want to wet myself.

Krieger

11-05-2006, 01:05 PM

I fucking hate this band so much. I love all punk and I hate when people say theyre a punk band. This fucking kid said something about liking My Chemical Romance and Im like they suck and theyre emo and he's like theyre punk not emo. And i snapped "I KNOW WHAT PUNK IS YOU DUMB SHIT AND THEY AREN'T!"  Its a trendy shit band, i laughed when i saw the new bands image, the lead singer cut his hair and dyed it and looks bad now... idk how any teen girls can love him now lol. Just hearing theyre name pisses me off , im gonna go listen to some Osker.

This message was edited by Angry Kevin on 11-5-06 @ 5:09 PM

Maxville

11-05-2006, 01:20 PM

Ooops. Wrong thread. Ignore this post human! <img width="200" height="200" border="0" src="http://www.cartoonesque.com/futurama/rsrc/persos/morbo.jpg" /> 

This message was edited by Maxville on 11-5-06 @ 5:26 PM

keithy_19

11-05-2006, 03:05 PM

TheMojoPin

11-05-2006, 03:09 PM

A sexy, sexy young lad who can be had for the right coinage.

angrymissy

11-05-2006, 03:21 PM

Angry Kevin wrote: I fucking hate this band so much. I love all punk and I hate when people say theyre a punk band. This fucking kid said something about liking My Chemical Romance and Im like they suck and theyre emo and he's like theyre punk not emo. And i snapped "I KNOW WHAT PUNK IS YOU DUMB SHIT AND THEY AREN'T!"  Its a trendy shit band, i laughed when i saw the new bands image, the lead singer cut his hair and dyed it and looks bad now... idk how any teen girls can love him now lol. Just hearing theyre name pisses me off , im gonna go listen to some Osker. This message was edited by Angry Kevin on 11-5-06 @ 5:09 PM You're not "punk" when you're one of those people that runs around going "OMG THATS SO NOT PUNK" "OMG YOU'RE NOT PUNK POSEUR!!!!:.I don't think they are "EMO" or "PUNK".  After this album I'd call them a "ROCK BAND"  What's with all the fucking "LABELS" anyway?  I thought "PUNK" didn't believe in "LABELS" (at least back in "my" day)WHO REALLY GIVES A FUCK WHO LISTENS TO WHAT ANYWAY?  I'd rather have kids listening to this than most of the other garbage out there nowadays, there's a lot worse.

Sheeplovr

11-05-2006, 03:28 PM

missy wins

Death Metal Moe

11-05-2006, 03:32 PM

Are we still arguing opinions in here?Fuck it people, who gives a shit.  You're not changing my mind and I'm not changing yours.

TheMojoPin

11-05-2006, 03:57 PM

I hope people aren't arguing with the idea of trying to change someone's mind over the music they listen to...because it's next to impossible.  This thread was started very clearly as "what do you think of this band?"  The people that like them have their say just as much as the people who don't.  I don't see why people can't praise or criticize the same band or style of music in a thread.  What, we shouldn't share our opinions on something like this?  Fuck that...that's lazy and boring.And on that note, I'll never get the "what's up with genres/labels, maaaaaaannnnnn?!?" idea.  Music is incredibly diverse, and as such you definitely end up with different "groupings" or whatever the fuck you want to call it in terms of who sounds like what.  What's the big fucking deal?  Bands that tend to sound/look/are influenced the same way also tend to to be grouped together under the same genres.  Why is that such an awful concept?

angrymissy

11-05-2006, 04:16 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: I hope people aren't arguing with the idea of trying to change someone's mind over the music they listen to...because it's next to impossible.  This thread was started very clearly as "what do you think of this band?"  The people that like them have their say just as much as the people who don't.  I don't see why people can't praise or criticize the same band or style of music in a thread.  What, we shouldn't share our opinions on something like this?  Fuck that...that's lazy and boring.And on that note, I'll never get the "what's up with genres/labels, maaaaaaannnnnn?!?" idea.  Music is incredibly diverse, and as such you definitely end up with different "groupings" or whatever the fuck you want to call it in terms of who sounds like what.  What's the big fucking deal?  Bands that tend to sound/look/are influenced the same way also tend to to be grouped together under the same genres.  Why is that such an awful concept?Because I think its stupid for one person to call a music one "label" and another person to flip out over that label, and I think its the most non "punk" thing ever.It reminds me of high school music nerds fighting over whether or not Dinosaur Jr was "punk".  LAME.Edited to include: MAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

This message was edited by angrymissy on 11-5-06 @ 8:17 PM

TheMojoPin

11-05-2006, 05:12 PM

"Punk" has graduated to some kind of vague philisophical description, so it's definitely the major exception when tossing out genres.  It's a pretty bastardized distinction to begin with...so many of those classic "punk" groups sound so little like each other.  I suppose that you could say "true" punk is playing hard, fast, raw and dirty (or just badly) and ending up with some really stripped down rock, but then how does that include a band like, say, the Clash?  Some labels definitely suck and are WAY too lazy...I'd say punk, grunge and electronica are the biggest culprits there.  "Emo" is, admittedly, getting the same way.  It's an umbrella term like "electronica" to link together a bunch of bands that usually have some tenuous connections but are ultimately pretty different and varied.  I just like using it as an insult.

This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 11-5-06 @ 9:14 PM

keithy_19

11-05-2006, 05:14 PM

I listen to rock music. I listen to bands like the clash (I'm punk), early Taking Back Sunday (I'm emo), Queen (I'm classic rock), Breaking Benjamin (I'm hard rock), Quicksand (I'm hardcore), Thursaday (I'm screamo).These genres really are pretty silly. Oh yeah, dmx (I'm a gangsta).

TheMojoPin

11-05-2006, 05:19 PM

They're just an easier way to explain what somthing kindasorta sounds like.  What, we're supposed to break down all the little nuances of what seperates each band from each other?  Fuck that...while they may be inaccurate when you break down the details, tossing out words like "punk" or "emo" or "grunge" or "hardcore" or "metal" or "trip-hop" or "garage" or whatever is going to give you a pretty clear rough idea of what a band is going to sound like.  Desiring some kind of free form musical "anarchy" in how we describe bands is ultimately pretty fucking dumb since so few bands are genuinely unique or wholly distinctive in their sound.I'm always amused that the fans of the bands I personally think are most easily pigeonholed by these type of labels are the most defensive about them.

This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 11-5-06 @ 9:22 PM

Krieger

11-05-2006, 06:00 PM

angrymissy wrote: Angry Kevin wrote: I fucking hate this band so much. I love all punk and I hate when people say theyre a punk band. This fucking kid said something about liking My Chemical Romance and Im like they suck and theyre emo and he's like theyre punk not emo. And i snapped "I KNOW WHAT PUNK IS YOU DUMB SHIT AND THEY AREN'T!"  Its a trendy shit band, i laughed when i saw the new bands image, the lead singer cut his hair and dyed it and looks bad now... idk how any teen girls can love him now lol. Just hearing theyre name pisses me off , im gonna go listen to some Osker. This message was edited by Angry Kevin on 11-5-06 @ 5:09 PM You're not "punk" when you're one of those people that runs around going "OMG THATS SO NOT PUNK" "OMG YOU'RE NOT PUNK POSEUR!!!!:.I don't think they are "EMO" or "PUNK".  After this album I'd call them a "ROCK BAND"  What's with all the fucking "LABELS" anyway?  I thought "PUNK" didn't believe in "LABELS" (at least back in "my" day)WHO REALLY GIVES A FUCK WHO LISTENS TO WHAT ANYWAY?  I'd rather have kids listening to this than most of the other garbage out there nowadays, there's a lot worse.Uhh i don care who says im not punk , I AM and thats all i need to know. I dont even need any bullet belts, band tank tops or mohawks to remind me. Punks an attitude and I have that and know what it is. MCR isn't punk , they dont have what is needed and I think theyre the worst for saying they are a punk band. I'm not calling anyone a poser , im just saying that the music isn't punk people that go around defining people suck and im against that but to say mcr is great punk thats insulting. Theyre good obviously because they happen to be popular but theyre not punk and shame on whoever thinks so.

Maxville

11-05-2006, 06:16 PM

I can still hate Pink Floyd right?And Led Zepplin and AC/DC and KISS right?I mean, cause they're all shit.  No, really.

keithy_19

11-05-2006, 06:17 PM

Angry Kevin wrote: angrymissy wrote: Angry Kevin wrote: I fucking hate this band so much. I love all punk and I hate when people say theyre a punk band. This fucking kid said something about liking My Chemical Romance and Im like they suck and theyre emo and he's like theyre punk not emo. And i snapped "I KNOW WHAT PUNK IS YOU DUMB SHIT AND THEY AREN'T!"  Its a trendy shit band, i laughed when i saw the new bands image, the lead singer cut his hair and dyed it and looks bad now... idk how any teen girls can love him now lol. Just hearing theyre name pisses me off , im gonna go listen to some Osker. This message was edited by Angry Kevin on 11-5-06 @ 5:09 PM You're not "punk" when you're one of those people that runs around going "OMG THATS SO NOT PUNK" "OMG YOU'RE NOT PUNK POSEUR!!!!:.I don't think they are "EMO" or "PUNK".  After this album I'd call them a "ROCK BAND"  What's with all the fucking "LABELS" anyway?  I thought "PUNK" didn't believe in "LABELS" (at least back in "my" day)WHO REALLY GIVES A FUCK WHO LISTENS TO WHAT ANYWAY?  I'd rather have kids listening to this than most of the other garbage out there nowadays, there's a lot worse.Uhh i don care who says im not punk , I AM and thats all i need to know. I dont even need any bullet belts, band tank tops or mohawks to remind me. Punks an attitude and I have that and know what it is. MCR isn't punk , they dont have what is needed and I think theyre the worst for saying they are a punk band. I'm not calling anyone a poser , im just saying that the music isn't punk people that go around defining people suck and im against that but to say mcr is great punk thats insulting. Theyre good obviously because they happen to be popular but theyre not punk and shame on whoever thinks so.Just out of curiosity, what punk bands do you listen too?

Krieger

11-06-2006, 09:11 AM

keithy_19 wrote: Angry Kevin wrote: angrymissy wrote: Angry Kevin wrote: I fucking hate this band so much. I love all punk and I hate when people say theyre a punk band. This fucking kid said something about liking My Chemical Romance and Im like they suck and theyre emo and he's like theyre punk not emo. And i snapped "I KNOW WHAT PUNK IS YOU DUMB SHIT AND THEY AREN'T!"  Its a trendy shit band, i laughed when i saw the new bands image, the lead singer cut his hair and dyed it and looks bad now... idk how any teen girls can love him now lol. Just hearing theyre name pisses me off , im gonna go listen to some Osker. This message was edited by Angry Kevin on 11-5-06 @ 5:09 PM You're not "punk" when you're one of those people that runs around going "OMG THATS SO NOT PUNK" "OMG YOU'RE NOT PUNK POSEUR!!!!:.I don't think they are "EMO" or "PUNK".  After this album I'd call them a "ROCK BAND"  What's with all the fucking "LABELS" anyway?  I thought "PUNK" didn't believe in "LABELS" (at least back in "my" day)WHO REALLY GIVES A FUCK WHO LISTENS TO WHAT ANYWAY?  I'd rather have kids listening to this than most of the other garbage out there nowadays, there's a lot worse.Uhh i don care who says im not punk , I AM and thats all i need to know. I dont even need any bullet belts, band tank tops or mohawks to remind me. Punks an attitude and I have that and know what it is. MCR isn't punk , they dont have what is needed and I think theyre the worst for saying they are a punk band. I'm not calling anyone a poser , im just saying that the music isn't punk people that go around defining people suck and im against that but to say mcr is great punk thats insulting. Theyre good obviously because they happen to be popular but theyre not punk and shame on whoever thinks so.Just out of curiosity, what punk bands do you listen too?Obviously whatever im gonna put is gonna be criticized but whatever. I listen bad religion, osker, pennywise, weston, old greenday, nofx, Bouncing Souls, Dropkick Murphys, The Suicide machines, the descendents ,The Misfits, The Queers , The Vandals, The Ramones ect ect. Im not into much 1970's punk,Im not a small local band anti big band punk. Im just a teen that wears jeans a band shirt and has spikey hair. Not a Bullet Belted , plaid pants and leather coat wearing boots. I just know whats really good and whats not. I dont see anything about MCR theyre over rated and that makes me dislike them more then just a neutral feel towards it.

Death Metal Moe

11-06-2006, 09:36 AM

Oh OK.  So we ARE still arguing musical opinions and tastes.Just so I know.  Thanks, but I'll just go back to slamming my dick in a car door.  I'm getting more done doing that then discussing music in here.

NickyL0885

11-06-2006, 09:59 AM

OK. WHO CARES WHO LIKES WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is fucking rediculous. Its like watching a bunch of nerds argue over which outfit William Shatner looked slimmer in on Star Trek. Everyone has different taste. I like all kinds of rock. From Van Halen to Story of the Year. If we all liked the same music, we'd just be boring. FUCK LABELS!!!!!!! Anyone who doesnt like it can kiss the fatest part of my ass!

Krieger

11-06-2006, 10:00 AM

Death Metal Moe wrote: Oh OK.  So we ARE still arguing musical opinions and tastes.Just so I know.  Thanks, but I'll just go back to slamming my dick in a car door.  I'm getting more done doing that then discussing music in here.Im not arguing any musical tastes. Im just saying that mcr isn't punk. Thats what i said in my first post. If you like mcr then good you like a emo band then. I m not here to tell people what they should listen to. Im just stating my opinion. Though its negative its mine.

reillyluck

11-06-2006, 11:37 AM

one word:  yuk.

Death Metal Moe

11-06-2006, 11:54 AM

NickyL0885 wrote: OK. WHO CARES WHO LIKES WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is fucking rediculous. Its like watching a bunch of nerds argue over which outfit William Shatner looked slimmer in on Star Trek. Everyone has different taste. I like all kinds of rock. From Van Halen to Story of the Year. If we all liked the same music, we'd just be boring. FUCK LABELS!!!!!!! Anyone who doesnt like it can kiss the fatest part of my ass! Sorry, but we need general labels.  As a musician I understand how they suck, but as Mojo said, if I was going to describe my music to someone quickly I would say "Unhallowed is Metal." not "Unhallowed is Metal but we incoperate a lot of musical influences, such as blah blah blah blah."We need labels and genres to categorize stuff.  It's a fact of life.

keithy_19

11-06-2006, 01:23 PM

Angry Kevin wrote: Death Metal Moe wrote: Oh OK.  So we ARE still arguing musical opinions and tastes.Just so I know.  Thanks, but I'll just go back to slamming my dick in a car door.  I'm getting more done doing that then discussing music in here.Im not arguing any musical tastes. Im just saying that mcr isn't punk. Thats what i said in my first post. If you like mcr then good you like a emo band then. I m not here to tell people what they should listen to. Im just stating my opinion. Though its negative its mine.But, they're emo to you and a handful of other people. Not to everyone. Which is what is bothering me. It seems the term emo is thrown around by a lot of people that are trying to explain why they hate the band. Personally, I would call them rock with more metal qualities than punk.

TheMojoPin

11-06-2006, 01:31 PM

Death Metal Moe wrote: Oh OK.  So we ARE still arguing musical opinions and tastes.Just so I know.  Thanks, but I'll just go back to slamming my dick in a car door.  I'm getting more done doing that then discussing music in here.Personally, I find arguing about music hysterically amusing.  I don't know why some people act like it's such a big deal...nobody's going to actually convince anyone of anything.  It's just fun to bullshit about bullshit.  It's not like it's anything sacred.

keithy_19

11-06-2006, 01:35 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: Death Metal Moe wrote: Oh OK.  So we ARE still arguing musical opinions and tastes.Just so I know.  Thanks, but I'll just go back to slamming my dick in a car door.  I'm getting more done doing that then discussing music in here.Personally, I find arguing about music hysterically amusing.  I don't know why some people act like it's such a big deal...nobody's going to actually convince anyone of anything.  It's just fun to bullshit about bullshit.  It's not like it's anything sacred.Of course this comes from someone who doesn't like MCR.  <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/laugh.gif" border="0" />

Death Metal Moe

11-06-2006, 01:38 PM

keithy_19 wrote: But, they're emo to you and a handful of other people. Not to everyone. Which is what is bothering me. It seems the term emo is thrown around by a lot of people that are trying to explain why they hate the band. Personally, I would call them rock with more metal qualities than punk. They, and other bands who have men with vaginas playing in them, are EMO to everyone EXCEPT EMO kids who don't want to be called "EMO" now that they know that everyone else considers EMO to be a code word for "Faggy, weak kids who are more into a fad then music."

TheMojoPin

11-06-2006, 01:39 PM

Hey, a ton of people bought those first two Spice Girls albums, too.  Now we're just on to "Miserable Pale Twat Spice."

Death Metal Moe

11-06-2006, 01:42 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: Hey, a ton of people bought those first two Spice Girls albums, too.  Now we're just on to "Miserable Pale Twat Spice." I have one!

keithy_19

11-06-2006, 01:43 PM

Death Metal Moe wrote: keithy_19 wrote: But, they're emo to you and a handful of other people. Not to everyone. Which is what is bothering me. It seems the term emo is thrown around by a lot of people that are trying to explain why they hate the band. Personally, I would call them rock with more metal qualities than punk. They, and other bands who have men with vaginas playing in them, are EMO to everyone EXCEPT EMO kids who don't want to be called "EMO" now that they know that everyone else considers EMO to be a code word for "Faggy, weak kids who are more into a fad then music."I don't care what I'm personally called. I just don't consider it emo. I find the terme mo to be a stupid term since the reason people get into music is for emotion. Whether it be pussy rock, to death metal, to fucking polka music, emotion is being released.

TheMojoPin

11-06-2006, 01:49 PM

keithy_19 wrote: Death Metal Moe wrote: keithy_19 wrote: But, they're emo to you and a handful of other people. Not to everyone. Which is what is bothering me. It seems the term emo is thrown around by a lot of people that are trying to explain why they hate the band. Personally, I would call them rock with more metal qualities than punk. They, and other bands who have men with vaginas playing in them, are EMO to everyone EXCEPT EMO kids who don't want to be called "EMO" now that they know that everyone else considers EMO to be a code word for "Faggy, weak kids who are more into a fad then music."I don't care what I'm personally called. I just don't consider it emo. I find the terme mo to be a stupid term since the reason people get into music is for emotion. Whether it be pussy rock, to death metal, to fucking polka music, emotion is being released. Dear sweet Jesus, stop pretending like it only means "emotional."  It's clearly mutated to mean "pseudo-punk/goth pop music fronted by whiny-voiced singers and/or a screaming guitarist who willfully wallow in misery and being pathetic while trying their hardest to look like they walked past a Hot Topic being suicide bombed," which, by the way, is probably the basis of the next MCR album title.  Emo bands have very clear and distincitve music and social traits that tend to lump them together.  That's true for pretty much all genre tags.  Emo is no different or any more special, despite what the clueless, spoiling parents who these ghouls try so hard to hate keep telling them whenever they buy them a new black and studded MP3 player/camera/phone/expensive stick to shove even further up their girl jean-wearing asses.

keithy_19

11-06-2006, 02:04 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: keithy_19 wrote: Death Metal Moe wrote: keithy_19 wrote: But, they're emo to you and a handful of other people. Not to everyone. Which is what is bothering me. It seems the term emo is thrown around by a lot of people that are trying to explain why they hate the band. Personally, I would call them rock with more metal qualities than punk. They, and other bands who have men with vaginas playing in them, are EMO to everyone EXCEPT EMO kids who don't want to be called "EMO" now that they know that everyone else considers EMO to be a code word for "Faggy, weak kids who are more into a fad then music."I don't care what I'm personally called. I just don't consider it emo. I find the terme mo to be a stupid term since the reason people get into music is for emotion. Whether it be pussy rock, to death metal, to fucking polka music, emotion is being released. Dear sweet Jesus, stop pretending like it only means "emotional."  It's clearly mutated to mean "pseudo-punk/goth pop music fronted by whiny-voiced singers and/or a screaming guitarist who willfully wallow in misery and being pathetic while trying their hardest to look like they walked past a Hot Topic being suicide bombed," which, by the way, is probably the basis of the next MCR album title.  Emo bands have very clear and distincitve music and social traits that tend to lump them together.  That's true for pretty much all genre tags.  Emo is no different or any more special, despite what the clueless, spoiling parents who these ghouls try so hard to hate keep telling them whenever they buy them a new black and studded MP3 player/camera/phone/expensive stick to shove even further up their girl jean-wearing asses.To be totally honest, you are right. I tend to look at the word emo as it was in its roots. And, also, I hate all the kids that you speak of, and I don't particulary like MCR's fashion statement either. I do like their music though.

Death Metal Moe

11-06-2006, 03:50 PM

keithy_19 wrote: I don't care what I'm personally called. I just don't consider it emo. I find the terme mo to be a stupid term since the reason people get into music is for emotion. Whether it be pussy rock, to death metal, to fucking polka music, emotion is being released. Hey, I'm not calling you anything.  I don't know you, I've never seen you and I probably never will.

Stankfoot

11-06-2006, 05:12 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: keithy_19 wrote: Death Metal Moe wrote: keithy_19 wrote: But, they're emo to you and a handful of other people. Not to everyone. Which is what is bothering me. It seems the term emo is thrown around by a lot of people that are trying to explain why they hate the band. Personally, I would call them rock with more metal qualities than punk. They, and other bands who have men with vaginas playing in them, are EMO to everyone EXCEPT EMO kids who don't want to be called "EMO" now that they know that everyone else considers EMO to be a code word for "Faggy, weak kids who are more into a fad then music."I don't care what I'm personally called. I just don't consider it emo. I find the terme mo to be a stupid term since the reason people get into music is for emotion. Whether it be pussy rock, to death metal, to fucking polka music, emotion is being released. Dear sweet Jesus, stop pretending like it only means "emotional." It's clearly mutated to mean "pseudo-punk/goth pop music fronted by whiny-voiced singers and/or a screaming guitarist who willfully wallow in misery and being pathetic while trying their hardest to look like they walked past a Hot Topic being suicide bombed," which, by the way, is probably the basis of the next MCR album title. Emo bands have very clear and distincitve music and social traits that tend to lump them together. That's true for pretty much all genre tags. Emo is no different or any more special, despite what the clueless, spoiling parents who these ghouls try so hard to hate keep telling them whenever they buy them a new black and studded MP3 player/camera/phone/expensive stick to shove even further up their girl jean-wearing asses.            why don't you just say it all sounds like noise to you, grandpa?

TheMojoPin

11-06-2006, 05:25 PM

Like I already said, this is definitely the genre/movement that has forced me to realize I've officially crossed over into the "you kids and your damn noise" era.  I see kids and the phrase that instantly pops into my mind is "lousy, rotten, spoiled punks."  It's kind of depressing.  Since I'm almost 30, if I write a song about it and dress like I'm 16 again, apparently I'll find success, just like Paleface McChubbycheeks.

Death Metal Moe

11-06-2006, 05:29 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: Like I already said, this is definitely the genre/movement that has forced me to realize I've officially crossed over into the "you kids and your damn noise" era.  I see kids and the phrase that instantly pops into my mind is "lousy, rotten, spoiled punks."  It's kind of depressing.  Since I'm almost 30, if I write a song about it and dress like I'm 16 again, apparently I'll find success, just like Paleface McChubbycheeks. His name is Fez and he really doesn't need that kind of negativity, especially from Ronfez staff.

torker

11-06-2006, 05:29 PM

Death Metal Moe wrote: keithy_19 wrote: I don't care what I'm personally called. I just don't consider it emo. I find the terme mo to be a stupid term since the reason people get into music is for emotion. Whether it be pussy rock, to death metal, to fucking polka music, emotion is being released. Hey, I'm not calling you anything.  I don't know you, I've never seen you and I probably never will.<a href="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/viewmessages.cfm/Forum/71/Topic/53452/page/UNoffical_bar_night" target="_blank">?</a>

TheMojoPin

11-06-2006, 05:35 PM

Death Metal Moe wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: Like I already said, this is definitely the genre/movement that has forced me to realize I've officially crossed over into the "you kids and your damn noise" era.  I see kids and the phrase that instantly pops into my mind is "lousy, rotten, spoiled punks."  It's kind of depressing.  Since I'm almost 30, if I write a song about it and dress like I'm 16 again, apparently I'll find success, just like Paleface McChubbycheeks. His name is Fez and he really doesn't need that kind of negativity, especially from Ronfez staff.No, he got to be "Stenty McHugehead," but I think it pushed him over the edge.If only Fez could channel his anguish into song.  He'd be King Emo and smothered in blindingly pale manboy flesh.

keithy_19

11-06-2006, 10:30 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: Death Metal Moe wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: Like I already said, this is definitely the genre/movement that has forced me to realize I've officially crossed over into the "you kids and your damn noise" era.  I see kids and the phrase that instantly pops into my mind is "lousy, rotten, spoiled punks."  It's kind of depressing.  Since I'm almost 30, if I write a song about it and dress like I'm 16 again, apparently I'll find success, just like Paleface McChubbycheeks. His name is Fez and he really doesn't need that kind of negativity, especially from Ronfez staff.No, he got to be "Stenty McHugehead," but I think it pushed him over the edge.If only Fez could channel his anguish into song.  He'd be King Emo and smothered in blindingly pale manboy flesh.I smell a comedy pyramid.

TheMojoPin

11-07-2006, 03:13 AM

keithy_19 wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: Death Metal Moe wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: Like I already said, this is definitely the genre/movement that has forced me to realize I've officially crossed over into the "you kids and your damn noise" era.  I see kids and the phrase that instantly pops into my mind is "lousy, rotten, spoiled punks."  It's kind of depressing.  Since I'm almost 30, if I write a song about it and dress like I'm 16 again, apparently I'll find success, just like Paleface McChubbycheeks. His name is Fez and he really doesn't need that kind of negativity, especially from Ronfez staff.No, he got to be "Stenty McHugehead," but I think it pushed him over the edge.If only Fez could channel his anguish into song.  He'd be King Emo and smothered in blindingly pale manboy flesh.I smell a comedy pyramid. If I didn't think it would kill him, I'd agree.

keithy_19

11-12-2006, 12:02 PM

An interesting article in the latest issue of AP Magazine. It gives great insight to the meaning of the new album. Like it or hate it, it's an interesting read.

Death Metal Moe

11-12-2006, 12:22 PM

keithy_19 wrote: An interesting article in the latest issue of AP Magazine. It gives great insight to the meaning of the new album. Like it or hate it, it's an interesting read. Is it about My Chemical Romance?

This message was edited by Death Metal Moe on 11-12-06 @ 4:22 PM

Snoogans

11-12-2006, 12:25 PM

i dont mind that marching band song but everything else ive heard kinda sucks

NickyL0885

11-12-2006, 12:49 PM

I think "Famous Last Words" is the best song on the album. Its just so powerful, at least i think so.

keithy_19

11-12-2006, 02:49 PM

Death Metal Moe wrote: keithy_19 wrote: An interesting article in the latest issue of AP Magazine. It gives great insight to the meaning of the new album. Like it or hate it, it's an interesting read. Is it about My Chemical Romance?This message was edited by Death Metal Moe on 11-12-06 @ 4:22 PM Yes. It's about how the album came about. A bunch of the memebrs were at really bad places int heir life. Famous Last Words was the first song that came about for the album. It's also the most hopefuly song that's on the album.In the song sleep you can hear lead singer Gerard Way talking about a dream. It's actual tape of him during the recording process. He, as well as the rest of the band, was experiencing a lot of negative feelings. He had some bad dreams and his therapist told him to record what the dreams were, and the record of his dreams were placed ont he album. It's kind of interesting I guess.

angrymissy

12-11-2006, 04:28 PM

I had to resurrect this thread to say - this is the first CD that I have not gotten sick of in a LONG time.  It's been in my car since I bought it and I play it constantly.  One of the best, most diverse albums I've heard in years.  Some of the songs I liked immediately (Cancer, Teenagers, Dead!), some took a few listenings and now I love them (Mama, House of Wolves).  Some songs are sound like Bowie, others remind me of Judas Priest.It really warrants a listen, it's not the type of album most people would expect, from what they've seen of MCR on say, MTV.

Reephdweller

12-11-2006, 04:39 PM

angrymissy wrote: I had to resurrect this thread to say - this is the first CD that I have not gotten sick of in a LONG time.  It's been in my car since I bought it and I play it constantly.  One of the best, most diverse albums I've heard in years.  Some of the songs I liked immediately (Cancer, Teenagers, Dead!), some took a few listenings and now I love them (Mama, House of Wolves).  Some songs are sound like Bowie, others remind me of Judas Priest.It really warrants a listen, it's not the type of album most people would expect, from what they've seen of MCR on say, MTV.I feel the same way, I have a small collection of albums that I can play again and again and love them every time and this one is one of those albums. Mama is a great song.