To all the indie rock nerds out there...

[Carter]

<p>Oh wow am i really the mod of this forum?&nbsp; Jesus.&nbsp; I get an F.&nbsp; Anyways, if any of you are into indie rock (the garden state soundtrack BARELY counts) I'd invite you to check out some of the bands I work with.&nbsp; Since my departure from the site I started a small record company that first was just helping press cds for bands and selling them at shows blah blah blah fast forward 3 years and now it's blossomed into a full on label.&nbsp; Check out the website <a href="http://www.dovecoterecords.com/">www.DovecoteRecords.com</a> and listen to some of the streaming music.&nbsp; If that bores you and just want some myspace links, check these out.</p><p><a href="http://www.myspace.com/masonproper">www.myspace.com/masonproper</a></p><p><a href="http://www.myspace.com/aberdeencity">www.myspace.com/aberdeencity</a></p><p><a href="http://www.myspace.com/timwilliams">www.myspace.com/timwilliams</a></p><p>and if you're feeling saucy and want to be OUR myspace friend add us at <a href="http://www.myspace.com/dovecoterecords">www.myspace.com/dovecoterecords</a> </p><p>This isnt a shameless self promotion, that will definitely come in februrary when some of our records hit stores.&nbsp; Check out the music, I don't know if many of you will dig it, but hopefully some of you will.&nbsp; If you are attending New York's CMJ Festival (sort of like sxsw in new york <a href="http://www.cmj.com/">www.cmj.com</a> ) we do have a showcase on thursday.&nbsp; Anyways hope you enjoy it.&nbsp; If you hate it, please dont tell me, I need to delay my impending heart attack for at least a few more months.</p>

[Mike Teacher]

<strong>Carter</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Oh wow am i really the mod of this forum?&nbsp; Jesus.&nbsp; I get an F.&nbsp; Anyways, if any of you are into indie rock (the garden state soundtrack BARELY counts) I'd invite you to check out some of the bands I work with.&nbsp; Since my departure from the site I started a small record company that first was just helping press cds for bands and selling them at shows blah blah blah fast forward 3 years and now it's blossomed into a full on label.&nbsp; Check out the website <a href="http://www.dovecoterecords.com/">www.DovecoteRecords.com</a> and listen to some of the streaming music.&nbsp; If that bores you and just want some myspace links, check these out.</p><p>This isnt a shameless self promotion, that will definitely come in februrary when some of our records hit stores.&nbsp; Check out the music, I don't know if many of you will dig it, but hopefully some of you will.&nbsp; If you are attending New York's CMJ Festival (sort of like sxsw in new york <a href="http://www.cmj.com/">www.cmj.com</a> ) we do have a showcase on thursday.&nbsp; Anyways hope you enjoy it.&nbsp; If you hate it, please dont tell me, I need to delay my impending heart attack for at least a few more months.</p><p>That rock congrats!</p><p>I went to CMJ in the late 80s when I ran Monmouth College's [now U.] station, and it was a great fest which I havent attended in years so I have no idea if its as big as it used to be. SXSW seems the biggie these days, besides NAMM for gearheads.</p><p>Anyway, this interests me a lot coz I follow the industry, and this is exactly what's happening. Bands, or people just up and make their own labels. Something that could not possibly have been done except by the very few back in the day when the monolitic majors put out the vast majority of music. </p><p>Now with peeps like you the majors are running scared, or better yet, actually starting to pay attention to medium/small/micro-labels.</p><p>I said fuck it and put out a CD and made a label this year. Troma picked it up for a film, and yesterday I moved down the B-movie ladder and found Siren Films is using my music in their next Horror/Karate babes movie. Not sure if it's good or awful but at least I don't get paid.</p><p>So even if you release a boring piece of electronic shit like I did, sometime things happen. Even got played on XMs Radar Report. Fuck this is self-promotion. Fuck me its about you.</p><p>Congrats and may some band explode and some major offer you a pile of cash and points on future sales so you can be a bazillionaire.</p>

[spoon]

Always a huge fan of the CMJ Festival along with the magazine.&nbsp; Will be attending a ton of shows as usual.&nbsp; Last year or perhaps 2004, I posted a thread on it along with a list of all the bands performing one place or the other.&nbsp; Some are awsome and on their way, others are awful but the beauty of it is that there is so much going on all over the city.

[TheMojoPin]

Love CMJ, but goddamn, their subscription service/printing schedule&nbsp;fucking sucked for about 3-4 years...and they actually blamed it on 9/11!&nbsp; OK, I can see that disrupting them based on their downtown location for a few months, maybe even a year...but when it's 2004 and you're still having trouble, come on!

[Sleeves]

<p>Just listened to a couple from Mason Proper and went to Tim Williams website...</p><p>Really excellent.&nbsp; Mason Proper sounds a little like Urge Overkill meets Weezer and tho Tim sounds a bit like the breathy sincere folky (and this is my own little bias, being a little bit folky fatigued), I think he manages to clear out his own space and really carry it. </p><p>Excellent production too.&nbsp; Nice job and good luck to yas all. <br /></p>

[Sheeplovr]

<p>first pootertoot posts now carter karokee </p><p>this is crazy&nbsp;</p><p><font size="4"><strong>where are you ikeaboy?&nbsp;</strong></font></p>

[spoon]

<strong>TheMojoPin</strong> wrote:<br />Love CMJ, but goddamn, their subscription service/printing schedule&nbsp;fucking sucked for about 3-4 years...and they actually blamed it on 9/11!&nbsp; OK, I can see that disrupting them based on their downtown location for a few months, maybe even a year...but when it's 2004 and you're still having trouble, come on! <p>Man you nailed it.&nbsp; That's why I haven't renewed since 2004 myself.&nbsp; I still manage to pick an issue up here and there at record stores, but they don't even carry it as often as they did in the past probably for the same reasons.&nbsp; When the mag is on it has some great comp discs with a huge variety of music on it making it worth the price alone.&nbsp; I averaged about 2-3 good new cds per issues based on the cd samps and the reviews.&nbsp; I refuse to believe that they couldn't adjust in fucking NYC after 9/11, they simply used it as an excuse.&nbsp; A full year is a joke, while a month or three I could have understood (even though that isn't really acceptable based on it being&nbsp;a business).&nbsp; </p>

[TheMojoPin]

<strong>spoon</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>TheMojoPin</strong> wrote:<br />Love CMJ, but goddamn, their subscription service/printing schedule&nbsp;fucking sucked for about 3-4 years...and they actually blamed it on 9/11!&nbsp; OK, I can see that disrupting them based on their downtown location for a few months, maybe even a year...but when it's 2004 and you're still having trouble, come on! <p>Man you nailed it.&nbsp; That's why I haven't renewed since 2004 myself.&nbsp; I still manage to pick an issue up here and there at record stores, but they don't even carry it as often as they did in the past probably for the same reasons.&nbsp; When the mag is on it has some great comp discs with a huge variety of music on it making it worth the price alone.&nbsp; I averaged about 2-3 good new cds per issues based on the cd samps and the reviews.&nbsp; I refuse to believe that they couldn't adjust in fucking NYC after 9/11, they simply used it as an excuse.&nbsp; A full year is a joke, while a month or three I could have understood (even though that isn't really acceptable based on it being&nbsp;a business).&nbsp; </p><p>I'll give them that they've finally got it being delivered regular again, and they sent me free replacement copies of all the issues I missed, but the magazine itself is still kinda dicey.&nbsp; The CD's are still good, but they're waaaaay more behind the curve now.&nbsp; I'll see songs from bands that broke (at least indie-wise) months before the issue came out, and it definitely used to be reversed back when.&nbsp; I still prefer their system of reviews to any other magazine or site...the quick &quot;Listen if you like&quot; blurb that lists 4-5 bands that are somewhat comparable to the act being reviewed helps a lot.&nbsp; But the magazine is a lot thinner than it used to be....no letters page anymore, next to no editorials.&nbsp; If my subscription wasn't so damn cheap, I don't know if I'd keep getting it.</p>

[Carter]

are you guys talking about the new music monthly or the weekly report?

[TheMojoPin]

The monthly.

[Carter]

<p>I know some of the people at CMJ and they seem to be spread very thin.&nbsp; They've cut back the weekly issue to alternate between a printed issue and an e-magazine pdf sort of thing.&nbsp; The new music monthly is still quite good but because its been staggered and they've had issues with the timing of their issues (rimshot!), it's been a bit of an uphill battle getting back to where it was.&nbsp; Woo haa</p>

[Mike Teacher]

<p>I think CMJs demise in relevancy is one of the inevitable consequences of the web.</p><p>We used to call in our playlists by phone, this took a long frigging time. And pre-internet this was about the only way you could get a good idea of playlists, what peeps were playing around the country.</p><p>Also, as to the quality of the CMJ compilation CDs [are they still called Certain Damage?] any band can buy their way onto that disc. CMJ offers many promo packages to put your band all over it.</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Mike Teacher on 10-21-06 @ 12:25 AM</span>

[spoon]

When I worked, then ultimately ran my college radio station in PA we had a very different system.&nbsp; I'm assuming we do have a little different era in regard to when we worked it, but we too loved cmj for info and some insight.&nbsp; However, we sure as hell had a ton of shit to weed through as well but found the time and had fun doing so.&nbsp; Hell, I even had a sports radio show on top of my music show.