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Kevin

10-02-2006, 03:41 PM

Anyone else going to watch this, I saw the 1st ep last night, thought it was pritty decent. The storyline is great. A good guy serial Killer who kills people who do not get convicted for crimes they did. . Mike C Hall from 6 Feet under Stars.

Sheeplovr

10-03-2006, 08:35 AM

i liked it when DD came in and danced around and broke his stuff in the lab

Servo

10-03-2006, 08:43 AM

Great first episode, I'll continue watching.  I like how they established a little rivalry between Dexter and the dude chopping up the hookers. 

suggums

10-03-2006, 08:46 AM

"i wanna play."  it was fucking awesome, i can hook you guys up with the link to watch the first episode for free: <a href="http://www.sho.com/site/dexter/sneakpeek/home.do" target="_blank">the password to watch it is sneakpeek </a>

Marc with a c

10-03-2006, 09:00 AM

Sheeplovr wrote: i liked it when DD came in and danced around and broke his stuff in the lab his strange accent makes me laugh.

Reephdweller

10-03-2006, 05:49 PM

Watching the first show now, this show fucking rocks!

MadMatt

10-03-2006, 06:54 PM

suggums wrote: "i wanna play."  it was fucking awesome, i can hook you guys up with the link to watch the first episode for free: <a href="http://www.sho.com/site/dexter/sneakpeek/home.do" target="_blank">the password to watch it is sneakpeek </a>You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.  Thank you.                                 <img height="65" src="http://www.cinecitta.it/holding/documenti/immagini/Animated%20GIF/star_tip_hat_md_blk.gif" width="65" border="0" />

ChrisTheCop

10-05-2006, 08:11 AM

This is the part this guy was born to play. Great show.When I first read about the show, I didnt think it could work. A likeable serial killer??? But after watching the 1st ep...I'm hooked.He's really one of only 2 symapthetic characters on the whole show. The other being his girlfriend (repeatedly raped and beaten by her ex,, now just getting used to the thought of being intimate again...with Dexter!)I'm not sure if we're supposed to like Dexter's sister. He does. In fact, she's the only person in the world he'd have any kind of feeling for...if he could. Maybe its because of my own prejudices from my job, but she's a so-so detective (howd she get that?) who wants to get into homicide, even though she doesnt deserve it. She asks Dex to solve cases for her, and uses her looks to get favors from her bosses.My guess is because of Dexter's feelings for her, his sister will end up being victimized sometime this season.

JimBeam

10-05-2006, 09:30 AM

I thought it was pretty good but I am a little disappointed with the " humanizing " of him by making him kill only bad people.Other than that I liked it.I like all the old HBO show actors, specifically Oz ( the fat Spanish detective, the female Lt and the black cop who can tell Dexter's shadey. )The sister got to be a detective because one of her dad's old friends is still in the department.

Marc with a c

10-05-2006, 05:12 PM

showtime is doing a free preview thing this weekend. 

TheMojoPin

10-05-2006, 05:13 PM

The concept of this is either completely brilliant or magnificently retarded.  But damned if I'm not curious...I'll wait for the DVD, but I'm definitely checking out the books in the meantime.

suggums

10-05-2006, 06:40 PM

scroll up for the link, you can watch the first episode onlineor is the computer screen not good enough for you people

Kevin

10-05-2006, 06:47 PM

suggums wrote: scroll up for the link, you can watch the first episode onlineor is the computer screen not good enough for you people Yea, i watch Showtime like an A-dult<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smoke.gif" border="0" />

This message was edited by Kevin on 10-5-06 @ 10:47 PM

Reephdweller

10-09-2006, 05:56 AM

I'm not sure if we're supposed to like Dexter's sister. He does. In fact, she's the only person in the world he'd have any kind of feeling for...if he could. Maybe its because of my own prejudices from my job, but she's a so-so detective (howd she get that?) who wants to get into homicide, even though she doesnt deserve it. She asks Dex to solve cases for her, and uses her looks to get favors from her bosses.My guess is because of Dexter's feelings for her, his sister will end up being victimized sometime this season.After watching the premier of Dexter a second time with Amy I have a theory on the killer. I think it's his sister. At the end of the show he's got that cut up doll in the freezer, and I have to wonder how would the killer know him or where he lives? Then i thought back to the sister tipping him off to the cell crystalization which put him on the trail of the refrigerated truck. She told him that she was at the crime scene of the last victim before he was there, but when he went there the crime scene had pretty much just opened up. He was on the date with his girlfriend when he saw the police lights and ran over. I'm thinking if the father could mold him into a vigilante killer, why couldn't he have done the same for her?<div>I could be wrong, but watching that again it struck me odd. Then I watched the second episode, which picks right up where the first left off with him at the freezer looking at the doll. The sister shows up and they start talking, he asks her if she wants a drink she says sure and asks for ice, I think that she was wondering if he already made the discovery or if he would find it when he opened the freezer. </div>

phixion

10-09-2006, 06:25 AM

reefy i like the idea that its his sister so im officially going to adopt it and pass that theory off as my own.and watching 'this season on dexter...." makes its seem even more likely. but there is one problem now that im thinking about it, dex kills murderers who wont ever get caught the ice truck killer kills whores, and i dont think transmitting herpes counts as murder.and watch the lieutenant get with the one cop who suspects dex of something.

Kevin

10-09-2006, 07:50 AM

That is fucking excellent Reef. I it has to be her. who else knows him so great? great job reef.

Kurtis9

10-12-2006, 01:35 PM

I only saw the first episode, but it started to grow on me already. I still just assume that guy is gay after Six Feet Under, it's hard to picture him straight.

suggums

10-12-2006, 01:38 PM

Kurtis9 wrote: I still just assume that guy is gay after Six Feet Under, it's hard to picture him straight.  basically.  im glad his character is kinda asexual in this

JimBeam

10-12-2006, 01:40 PM

That is interesting Reef. She did make mention of something that caught me by surprise.Probably around mentioning one of the crime scenes when they hadnt given you any clue that she knew about them.Also not only mentioning the ice for the drink but deliberately asking how his date when the night before when he found one of the bodies.My hunch, going on years of cheesey movies, was that the killer was gonna be the dad but sister seems more likely now.But how can they run that out for more than one season ?

Sheeplovr

10-12-2006, 01:47 PM

if his sister was a serial killer what would be her pointthats would make dexter one of the dumbest shows ever and your thoery now makes me question weather i like it or not nowi guess ill go watch the 3rd episode early on demand now just to find out more

JimBeam

10-16-2006, 10:58 AM

Another Oz actor appearance last night. Cyril, O'Reily's brother.Is Dextre and actual police officer ?Like did he graduate the academy and go into this section of the job ?I only ask because if he was why'd he let that drug dealer boss him/his g/f around ?

PapaBear

10-16-2006, 05:14 PM

He's a CSI. Not an actual cop. Oh, and I think last night's episode put the sister thing to rest. She wouldn't be investigating the station wagon, if she was the actual killer.

Reephdweller

10-17-2006, 05:27 AM

PapaBear wrote: He's a CSI. Not an actual cop. Oh, and I think last night's episode put the sister thing to rest. She wouldn't be investigating the station wagon, if she was the actual killer. I'll have to check it out.

suggums

10-17-2006, 05:46 AM

PapaBear wrote: He's a CSI. Not an actual cop.   i think blood splatter analysis is his specific area of expertise.  another great episode, i liked getting a bit more of the history.  kinda was hoping the boy would become his apprentice, maybe further down the road.

JimBeam

10-17-2006, 08:56 AM

But arent those CSI humps on the other, terrible shows, actual cops ?I think the kid will be an issue further down the road but it'll be Dexter killing him because's he's killed somebody else even after the warning.

This message was edited by JimBeam on 10-17-06 @ 12:56 PM

PapaBear

10-17-2006, 12:59 PM

But arent those CSI humps on the other, terrible shows, actual cops ?They carry guns, but they constantly say they aren't actual cops in those shows.

Reephdweller

10-17-2006, 05:12 PM

He's a CSI. Not an actual cop.  He's definitely a cop. Crime Scene Investigators are cops. They are where they are because of their areas of expertese, Dexter's is blood splatter analysis.

This message was edited by Reefdweller on 10-17-06 @ 9:14 PM

JimBeam

10-24-2006, 05:12 PM

I'm starting to think its the sister again.Just something about her that seems wierd.

Reephdweller

10-24-2006, 06:26 PM

Yeah it seems like it's her again to me too...or Dexter himself.

suggums

10-24-2006, 08:01 PM

Reefdweller wrote: Yeah it seems like it's her again to me too...or Dexter himself.  based on the characters they've introduced us to, the only logical suspect via process of elimination is his sister.   of course, it could jsut be some random maniac that hasn't even shown their face, but the sister thing is either retarded or brilliant ill keep tossing it around in my head good theory reef

Servo

10-25-2006, 08:15 AM

It can't be the sister.  We've seen too much of her doing investigation on her own, like watching the surveillance tapes, interviewing the hookers, looking for the wood-paneled station wagon.  But, I am thinking that it could be someone that we've seen, who knows the history of Dexter and his sister, and knew their father.  The police captain, maybe?

JimBeam

10-25-2006, 09:24 AM

I dont think its the sister becasue how would she get so smart about the medical end of it w/out Dexter knowing ?Interesting thought that it might be him though.I was hoping he'd kill that neighbor chick.

trig

10-25-2006, 11:50 AM

Never heard of Dexter until Mr. B mentioned it.  This show kicks so much ass.  I can't wait for the next episode.

JimBeam

10-31-2006, 09:10 AM

I think that eye that was looking out of the trunk of that car was female.If Dexter wants to avoid being intimate w/ his g/f he should always bring over sappy movies that make her cry.

Reephdweller

10-31-2006, 06:04 PM

So the killer likes mentos....interesting.

blakjeezis

11-01-2006, 08:33 PM

Oh, what a great show, man. I just finished watching this week's episode. Funny, smart, the 6 feet under fag is incredible. When he tried to go down on her during Terms of Endearment I lost my whole shit. And what was with that eye? In the trunk. Holy shit! That bugged me the fuck out. Someone was watching him, because the 2 Mexican smugglers were both thrown off the ship. I guess it must be the Ice Truck Killer. It did look like it was a broad. And I find myself during the course of every episode being like, "Why the fuck is Angel a character in this show?", especially last week with the whole jewelry thing. But by the end of the episode, they work his sort of subplot back into the main Dexter storyline, and it's awesome. I really do like this show. And is the Tootie as LaGourda, or whatever her name is?

Kevin

11-01-2006, 08:40 PM

Great Fucking show. It is going to be interesting how he wiggles out of this jam he is in.

Kurtis9

11-02-2006, 11:40 AM

Great show, I'm glad Showtime finally got something going. HBO is starting to drop off a little

Tall_James

11-02-2006, 01:01 PM

I was wondering whatever happened to him.<img height="220" src="http://www.worldstart.com/store/images/dexter-lab-science.jpg" width="175" border="0" />Does he finally kill Dee Dee?

Kevin

11-02-2006, 01:19 PM

Tall_James wrote: I was wondering whatever happened to him.<img height="220" src="http://www.worldstart.com/store/images/dexter-lab-science.jpg" width="175" border="0" />Does he finally kill Dee Dee?<img height="385" src="http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Robert-DeNiro---Analyze-That-Photograph-C10102490.jpeg" width="477" border="0" /> YOU, YOU, YOUR GOOD, YOUR GOOD!

This message was edited by Kevin on 11-2-06 @ 5:20 PM

JimBeam

11-02-2006, 04:48 PM

That Lt chick isnt Tootie.She was on Oz.

Reephdweller

11-12-2006, 04:50 AM

After watching the latest episode of Dexter last night I'm back to being convinced that it's the sister. The flashbacks to her youth trying to connect and hang with the dad and Dexter by shooting stuff up, to the way she looked at him the whole episode almost like she knows what he does is really leading me to believe that it's her. This last one was really great with him feeling almost like he's about to get caught for what he does and the killer taunting him. Really good stuff.

phixion

11-12-2006, 07:18 AM

on attack of the show this past week they said the ice truck killers identity will be revealed tonight i cannot wait.

Reephdweller

11-14-2006, 05:44 PM

Well I guess it's not the sister.

suggums

11-14-2006, 06:11 PM

well its not that stupid phony guy they picked up thats trying to take credit for the murders.  i was hoping the kid would become dexter's apprentice but no luck therei was really hoping for another teaser from the real ice cream killer to dexter like the dolls heads etc

Kevin

11-14-2006, 06:45 PM

Reefdweller wrote: Well I guess it's not the sister. I don't know, i still get a strange feeling about the Sis. Like how much she is hiding about how resentful she is about Dex's relationship with the dad. Either she is starting to pick up that Dex is a serial Killer or she is still the killer. I mean its really strange how her promotions and the overall level of respect that she has been getting from her colleagues for her work, all started when the Ice Truck Killer showed up. But now Dex maybe in her mind is becoming too closely involved with the case, she may feel that he might catch on, that is why she wanted to frame him, to throw him off a bit. I do not think we have learned all there is to know about her. Id def hit her though.

PapaBear

11-14-2006, 06:54 PM

If the sister is the killer, I'll eat ADF's hat.

Kevin

11-14-2006, 06:56 PM

PapaBear wrote: If the sister is the killer, I'll eat ADF's hat. Hot Sauce, Ketchup or Mustard?Maybe she is not, but there is something about her that i just do not get yet.

Reephdweller

11-14-2006, 06:58 PM

Yeah I think I spoke too soon...the killer is still out there. As a bonus the sister is hot!

Kevin

11-14-2006, 07:05 PM

Reefdweller wrote: Yeah I think I spoke too soon...the killer is still out there. As a bonus the sister is hot! Yea i was a little iffy on her when it first started, but after she made homicide, i don't know if its the suits or the fact that she has to keep her appearance to a higher level, but she has gotten hotter by the ep.

Servo

11-15-2006, 06:07 AM

There was something odd about Tucci's doctor when Deb hooked up with him at the end of the episode.  The way he told her he "studied the human form in Paris" and got into medicine after his mother lost limbs in a car accident... a bit odd, is all I'm sayin'.Also, we know that Perry is not the ITK, just a pretender.  Maybe I missed something, but he is in fact a killer, right?  After all, he did have a corpse with a severed leg buried under his trailer, and was going to murder the prostitute.

Kurtis9

11-15-2006, 06:13 AM

Right on brother. I caught onto that too. Maybe too predictable, but still makes for a good story line. This shows is definitely keeping my interest

Kevin

11-19-2006, 07:58 PM

Spoiler. If you did not watch the new ep, do not scroll down.                                                                          I can't fucking believe i did not pick up that the DR is the Ice truck killer. It was so fucking clear, the body parts, he was the DR of his vic, crazy shit;  Wow this show is fucking great. What i would like to know is what is his connection with Dexter.

This message was edited by Kevin on 11-20-06 @ 12:02 AM

FMJeff

11-19-2006, 09:37 PM

Ebert killed movies for me when he introduced his rules for movies. One of his most popular rules, esp applicable to murder mysteries, is the conservation of characters. Characters have to be played by actors, actors cost money. If the character doesn't further the story along some way, it is a waste of money, and filmmakers hate wasting money. Thus, the doctor had to be the killer, as he was the only character that was new, had the capabilities to do the dirty work and, in the case of television, was least likely to become a part of the mainstream cast.  I called it. Missy did not. She now owes me 100 bucks cash.

angrymissy

11-20-2006, 04:53 AM

I thought it was too obvious to be the doctor :(  I was convinced it was his father/cousin/brother, not adoptive, but blood relative that they don't know what happened to.

Kevin

11-20-2006, 07:43 AM

angrymissy wrote: I thought it was too obvious to be the doctor <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smilefrown2.gif" border="0" width="15" height="15" />   I was convinced it was his father/cousin/brother, not adoptive, but blood relative that they don't know what happened to. Yea i agree Missy, It was too obvious to even think that it was the DR, i mean the clues where all there, I am still angry that i did not pick up on it though. Jeff, have you picked up the connection to him and Dex yet?? Biological brother from the real dad? They do not look anything alike so i would assume no.

This message was edited by Kevin on 11-20-06 @ 11:45 AM

ChrisTheCop

11-20-2006, 07:47 AM

The relative connection may still be there. The Doctor might be Dexters natural brother. Just a thought.

Kevin

11-20-2006, 07:50 AM

ChrisTheCop wrote: The relative connection may still be there. The Doctor might be Dexters natural brother. Just a thought. It could, be, Chris, but they look nothing alike though, that is what is kinda throwing me off, maybe it was intended that way.

Reephdweller

11-20-2006, 10:29 AM

angrymissy wrote: I thought it was too obvious to be the doctor <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smilefrown2.gif" border="0" width="15" height="15" />   I was convinced it was his father/cousin/brother, not adoptive, but blood relative that they don't know what happened to. Well I haven't seen the episode yet, though the thought did cross my mind about the doctor...along with everyone else on the show who I suspected from the other guys in forensics to the captian pretty much everyone though I ruled the doctor out specifically since he was treating Tucci and I figured that he would have picked up on it being the doctor since he spent a lot of time with him. Being blindfolded most of the time I would have figured him to have picked up on different sensory things that would have tipped him off to the doctor so I ruled him out. I'm curious too about how he knows so much Dexter.

Sheeplovr

11-20-2006, 01:24 PM

well how is there going to be a season 2?

ChrisTheCop

11-26-2006, 07:54 AM

Sheepy? We're not talking Dexter dying...or even being rehabilitated. Its like saying at the end of Lost, season one, "well, once they open the hatch...the show's over."

dotsncoms

11-26-2006, 08:06 AM

Why didn't Dexter put his cell phone on vibrate when he broke into the therapist's office.I knew it was the doctor!

ChrisTheCop

11-26-2006, 08:37 AM

Tonite at 10: Father Knows Best: Rita, Debra, and Rudy join Dexter for a weekend away when Dexter finds out that his biological father, whom Dex thought had died 30 years ago, has just recently passed away and left him all of his belongings...and his house.----------------------------------------------------------------------------      If the doctor/itk IS dexters bro, perhaps he kept in contact with their dad, had a falling out or whatever, and was left out of the will intentionally. Knowing this, he tries to one up/torment his brother by becoming a better killer than he is.   

This message was edited by ChrisTheCop on 11-26-06 @ 12:38 PM

JimBeam

11-26-2006, 09:07 AM

I had a wierd feeling about that doctor but never put it together.My bad.I'm guessing there's only a few more episodes ( maybe 2 ).The terrorist show starts on Dec 10th and will probably replace Dexter.Plus I think we're at 11 episodes so far so 2 more would give us 13.

Terry0714

11-28-2006, 01:51 AM

I think the Dr is Dexters evil  twin... who did not have the guidence from Charlie growing up.. so he is just killing.. Dexter just kills the bad people..

Aggie

11-28-2006, 09:19 AM

I haven't read any of this thread or seen the show but I'm VERY interested.I got hooked on Weeds watching On Demand and I'm tempted with this show but I watch so much TV. Is it worth it? I love true crime/The Shield, etc. What style show is this?

blakjeezis

11-28-2006, 09:35 AM

It's not true crime, really. I mean they do touch very lightly on forensics and blood splatter, but that's not at all what the show is about. It's more of a black comedy than anything else, a little drama. I don't watch a whole lot of TV, so I only have like three shows to compare it to. But out of Dexter, Lost, Heroes and The Office, Dexter might be number one for me. If you can, Ag, I highly recommend you make room in your viewing schedule for it. You'll not be sorry. I promise.

This message was edited by blakjeezis on 11-28-06 @ 1:42 PM

Kevin

11-28-2006, 09:53 AM

That ITK is one sadistic crazy mo fo. He makes Dexter look normal.

blakjeezis

11-28-2006, 10:12 AM

How bad were you screaming at the TV for him to stop and talk to the old lady across the street? I know I was.

Kevin

11-28-2006, 10:15 AM

blakjeezis wrote: How bad were you screaming at the TV for him to stop and talk to the old lady across the street? I know I was. You don't even know. I have to watch it again. Was his window up or radio on? Was she too far? I still do not understand how he did not hear her. I have to watch it a 2nd time.

blakjeezis

11-28-2006, 10:17 AM

No, he heard her fully. He just smiled and waived like, "Okay, crazy lady. Byeeeee."

Kevin

11-28-2006, 10:23 AM

blakjeezis wrote: No, he heard her fully. He just smiled and waived like, "Okay, crazy lady. Byeeeee." Yea but she was saying its the cable repair man the repair man, He just had asked about him, i would think he would be interested.

UnknownPD

11-28-2006, 10:33 AM

Kevin wrote: blakjeezis wrote: No, he heard her fully. He just smiled and waived like, "Okay, crazy lady. Byeeeee."  Yea but she was saying its the cable repair man the repair man, He just had asked about him, i would think he would be interested.I don't think he heard her. He was ignoring her.

Aggie

11-28-2006, 10:43 AM

blakjeezis wrote: It's not true crime, really. I mean they do touch very lightly on forensics and blood splatter, but that's not at all what the show is about. It's more of a black comedy than anything else, a little drama. I don't watch a whole lot of TV, so I only have like three shows to compare it to. But out of Dexter, Lost, Heroes and The Office, Dexter might be number one for me. If you can, Ag, I highly recommend you make room in your viewing schedule for it. You'll not be sorry. I promise. This message was edited by blakjeezis on 11-28-06 @ 1:42 PM Thanks BJ, we seem to like all of the same shows and anyone who likes HP is a person I can trust. I'll watch a few this weekend and check back. Or I could just watch some when Lost is supposed to be on.

ChrisTheCop

11-28-2006, 12:59 PM

Hey. It's no "Sorority Life", but it's a decent way to pass a sunday night.

JimBeam

11-28-2006, 03:45 PM

How annoying is the ITK ?I wanted Dexter to punch him in the face.Him and his stupid opinions.

Terry0714

11-29-2006, 04:28 AM

I think that the ITK is going to kill the old lady this week...

phixion

11-29-2006, 12:29 PM

anyone else catch the itk saying maybe dexters father killed his whole family?he said it sarcastically but i cant help but think he's telling the truth. couple this with during the therapy sessions int eh last ep in one of the flashbacks you see a small boy crying covered in blood could this be baby dex? i cant help but think so. i love tivo.

Reephdweller

11-30-2006, 02:46 AM

phixion wrote: anyone else catch the itk saying maybe dexters father killed his whole family?he said it sarcastically but i cant help but think he's telling the truth. couple this with during the therapy sessions int eh last ep in one of the flashbacks you see a small boy crying covered in blood could this be baby dex? i cant help but think so. i love tivo. I heard that too. I finally got to the see the last two episodes, my on-demand for showtime has been crapping out so I finally got it see everything for myself. The episode before last was excellent. This latest one with the killer hanging out with them as Dexter goes through his dads stuff was okay thoug not nearly as good. I would have thought that Dexter would find it odd that the guy was right there when he broke out of the morgue...at least enough to make him raise an eyebrow to him. It just didnt seem like a completely well thought out episode.

JimBeam

12-04-2006, 10:23 AM

I thought last night's episdoe would be the season finally but tahnkfully we have 2 more.If you havent seen it they give you a  little more about young Dexter covered in blood and what ahppened to his mom but they don't give you any whos/whys.A short appearance by Theo Huxtable. A slightly portly Theo Huxtable.

Kevin

12-04-2006, 10:29 AM

Very Good ep, They are finally getting to the part where Dex figures out that Debs BF is the ITK. I wonder though, ITK is acting really irrational, is he doing it because A he wants to get caught, or B he wants to stop because he really is in love with Deb and wants to stop and disappear. I doubt it. But he is really acting very unlike himself.

UnknownPD

12-04-2006, 10:39 AM

Kevin wrote: Very Good ep, They are finally getting to the part where Dex figures out that Debs BF is the ITK. I wonder though, ITK is acting really irrational, is he doing it because A he wants to get caught, or B he wants to stop because he really is in love with Deb and wants to stop and disappear. I doubt it. But he is really acting very unlike himself. I thought it was because he wanted to show off his work. What's the point of being so elaborate if nobody knows its you. Doesn't he think Dex and him have an emotional connection?

Reephdweller

12-04-2006, 06:42 PM

I thought it was an excellent episode. I just watched it. One of the things I've been thinking about is the guy Tucci who was one of his victims where they discovered him. When they found him he was in this abandoned type place where supposedly the ITK was cutting him up. Seeing more about him now though we can see he has his own place where he does the cutting. I think that he staged it so that the guy could be found, because on some level he wants to be caught. It's killing him and he's trying harder and harder to get closer to Dexter. The thing about how Rudy mentioned last week about how "maybe his father was a murder and murdered his whole family" I think he did know it and knew what Dexter saw as a child so he recreated that scene to fuck with his mind.

trig

12-04-2006, 07:58 PM

Awesome episode.  ITK was being pretty obvious with a couple of the things he said to Dexter, especially the electric chainsaw remark.  I wonder if he's just fucking with him because he knows Dexter's head all fucked up, or if he was trying to tell Dexter that he's the guy for some reason?  He seemed a little irritated when Dexter didn't seem to get it. Laughed hard at Deb's ex getting locked up, I was hoping he'd be taking a hefty bag ride to the bottom of the ocean, but the alternative was equally pleasing.  Glad there are a couple more eps.

Kevin

12-04-2006, 08:26 PM

I do not think Dex is going to let ITK get arrested, he will kill him in the last ep of the year. He has too, he knows to much about Dex.

JimBeam

12-06-2006, 08:46 AM

ITK surely wanted Dexter to find Tucci and hoped he'd finish him off.That means he clearly doesnt understand what Dexter's about.He thinks he just wants to do the killing but doesnt realize that Dex has some rationale to it.I was surprised ITK tried to kill the cop when he was going on such a thin lead.

ChrisTheCop

12-09-2006, 07:27 AM

Rudy (ITK) is Dexter's brother. He was also in that bloody room. In future eps the cam will pan back and we'll see another kid there, and we'll hear mommy telling Rudy to close HIS eyes too.Dexter was later adopted, and trained on the hows and whys of SMART serial killing, whereas Rudy was adopted by someone else who didnt train him, maybe even tried to rehabilitate him.Dexter lives by a set of strict rules to his craft. Rudy, as you mentioned above, goes off the handle and kills spontaneously. Both are meticulous, but Rudy's alot more sloppy. Which is why he will be caught.Rudy has absolutely no interest  in Deborah (is that her name? dex's sis). He's using her to get to Dexter, and is also probably just mad at her for being part of the loving family Dex fell in to.

phixion

12-09-2006, 09:07 AM

ChrisTheCop

12-09-2006, 09:31 AM

Had a feeling I should add a line saying, "just my best guess." I have no insider info.

JimBeam

12-09-2006, 12:13 PM

I'm sensing something like Rudy being Dexter's brother but I hope its not that superficial.maybe he's somehow tied to whatever carnage was going on in that bloody room.Anybody have thoughts on what they think was happening ?Maybe Dex's mom on the business end of a drug dealer getting even for something that maybe the dad did ?

Reephdweller

12-09-2006, 03:05 PM

My thinking has been of late that the ITK is the son of someone who Dexter's real father killed, or someone who his adopted father may have wronged so this guy is getting revenge.If he's his actual blood brother though that would be an interesting twist to things.

phixion

12-11-2006, 10:23 AM

cliffhangers i fuckin hate cliffhangers.

ChrisTheCop

12-11-2006, 10:39 AM

I paused my tivo to try and convince Deborah not to drink that champagne. Seriously. I did.

angrymissy

12-11-2006, 12:06 PM

JimBeam wrote: I'm sensing something like Rudy being Dexter's brother but I hope its not that superficial.maybe he's somehow tied to whatever carnage was going on in that bloody room.Anybody have thoughts on what they think was happening ?Maybe Dex's mom on the business end of a drug dealer getting even for something that maybe the dad did ? I definitely think ITK is his brother or some sort of blood relative.  Teh brother angle would work, he was the brother that did not have someone to teach him like Dexter did, so he just kills indiscrimitarily

dotsncoms

12-11-2006, 04:52 PM

good episode, the Dexter show is based on jeffrey lindsays book. The answer is in the book, Darkly Dreaming Dexter. 

This message was edited by dotsncoms on 12-11-06 @ 9:01 PM

trig

12-11-2006, 06:33 PM

Please tell me new episodes are coming soon..... please.

Reephdweller

12-11-2006, 07:06 PM

he was the brother that did not have someone to teach him like Dexter did, so he just kills indiscrimitarilyWhile that makes sense my only thing is that where Dexter walked away from what happened a closed up emotionless kid, if the ITK is his brother I would think he'd sort've be the same way emotionally and socially regardless of his upbringing. The ITK seems to be able to put on the face of a great personable guy and Dexter just always seems to be uncomfortable in his own skin.

kellermcgee21

12-11-2006, 09:49 PM

<a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/pdmntpdl/1">http://www.dailymotion.com/pdmntpdl/1</a> that website has all the dexter episodes up for free for anybody who hasn't seen or if you want to watch some eps over again..... this show is great

kellermcgee21

12-11-2006, 09:54 PM

ChrisTheCop wrote: Rudy (ITK) is Dexter's brother. He was also in that bloody room. In future eps the cam will pan back and we'll see another kid there, and we'll hear mommy telling Rudy to close HIS eyes too.Dexter was later adopted, and trained on the hows and whys of SMART serial killing, whereas Rudy was adopted by someone else who didnt train him, maybe even tried to rehabilitate him.Dexter lives by a set of strict rules to his craft. Rudy, as you mentioned above, goes off the handle and kills spontaneously. Both are meticulous, but Rudy's alot more sloppy. Which is why he will be caught.Rudy has absolutely no interest  in Deborah (is that her name? dex's sis). He's using her to get to Dexter, and is also probably just mad at her for being part of the loving family Dex fell in to. I actually had the same feeling when watching the latest episode and I was going to come on here and post that as a theory.  Rudy knows WAY too much about Dexter to not have some kind of personal connection to him.  I also think that Dexter will kill Rudy before he turns him into the cops because Rudy knows a lot about Dexters killings however Deb getting kidnapped kinda complicates things.  I am glad theres 2 more episodes left and hopefully a lot of the loose ends get tied up.  The way Weeds ended was so fucking open-ended that I only hope they wrap Dexter up a little more neatly.

Kevin

12-11-2006, 10:05 PM

kellermcgee21 wrote: ChrisTheCop wrote: Rudy (ITK) is Dexter's brother. He was also in that bloody room. In future eps the cam will pan back and we'll see another kid there, and we'll hear mommy telling Rudy to close HIS eyes too.Dexter was later adopted, and trained on the hows and whys of SMART serial killing, whereas Rudy was adopted by someone else who didnt train him, maybe even tried to rehabilitate him.Dexter lives by a set of strict rules to his craft. Rudy, as you mentioned above, goes off the handle and kills spontaneously. Both are meticulous, but Rudy's alot more sloppy. Which is why he will be caught.Rudy has absolutely no interest  in Deborah (is that her name? dex's sis). He's using her to get to Dexter, and is also probably just mad at her for being part of the loving family Dex fell in to. I actually had the same feeling when watching the latest episode and I was going to come on here and post that as a theory.  Rudy knows WAY too much about Dexter to not have some kind of personal connection to him.  I also think that Dexter will kill Rudy before he turns him into the cops because Rudy knows a lot about Dexters killings however Deb getting kidnapped kinda complicates things.  I am glad theres 2 more episodes left and hopefully a lot of the loose ends get tied up.  The way Weeds ended was so fucking open-ended that I only hope they wrap Dexter up a little more neatly.Next week is the season Finale.

kellermcgee21

12-11-2006, 10:18 PM

Kevin wrote: kellermcgee21 wrote:  I actually had the same feeling when watching the latest episode and I was going to come on here and post that as a theory.  Rudy knows WAY too much about Dexter to not have some kind of personal connection to him.  I also think that Dexter will kill Rudy before he turns him into the cops because Rudy knows a lot about Dexters killings however Deb getting kidnapped kinda complicates things.  I am glad theres 2 more episodes left and hopefully a lot of the loose ends get tied up.  The way Weeds ended was so fucking open-ended that I only hope they wrap Dexter up a little more neatly.Next week is the season Finale. Yeah your right...for some reason I thought there was two left.  Does anybody know if theres a second season planned?

Reephdweller

12-12-2006, 01:17 AM

Yeah there is, I know very early on in the season it was announced that there would be a season 2, I guess they could tell it was a hit right away.

trig

12-12-2006, 07:27 AM

Wow I somehow thought that was the last ep of the season.  Thank god.  Fire up the boat Dex!

JimBeam

12-12-2006, 04:19 PM

I wonder if they'll wrap things up.I loved that Dexter finally got upitty with that pain in the ass black dude.Looks like there might be more of an encounter next week.I wasnt aware there was a book about this.

FMJeff

12-13-2006, 09:55 AM

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the Ice Truck Killer is not dexter's brother. For one, they don't look remotely alike. Like not even close. The ITK looks hispanic or middle eastern and Dexter is clearly the product of a white mother and father (of which we've both seen). They're not related. And Dexter's killing style is much different from Rudy's. One is an obsession with amputated body parts, the other is just killing in general, kept in check by Harry's code. I think they respect each other, but it ends there. Rudy just did his research on Dex to get into his head.May be wrong, but I think if it turns out they were brothers, I'll be dissapointed. That's just bad writing. It's much more interesting if they were just two serial killers who crossed paths.

trig

12-13-2006, 10:06 AM

Ronnie has me laughing at his comment yesterday about hoping dex's sister gets killed.  I hope that doesn't happen though. Why do you think the brother/relative angle would be bad writing?

JimBeam

12-13-2006, 11:52 AM

I agree that I think, and I said it before, that him being a bro would be lame if not unoriginal.I dont buy that they have to look alike though.

Andomray

12-13-2006, 01:52 PM

Thanks to this thread, I watched the first two episodes on the showtime website.ÿ Then my friend told me of a website where I could watch the rest.ÿ Now I'm addicted.ÿ The only bad thing about it is that I knew who the ITK was as soon as I saw the character.ÿ I'm still watching though.ÿ Just finished watching the eighth episode.ÿ Thanks you guys for turning me on to this show.<div> </div><div>On the topic of serial killers, the website I look at the most when reading about them is www.crimelibrary.com.ÿ But be careful, it becomes addicting.</div>

phixion

12-13-2006, 02:11 PM

is anyone else getting the feeling that the itk storyarc is going to end this coming episode? i mean i completely envision them all eventually finding the itk saving deb in the nick of time and the itk is killed an not captured, this leaves dexters alternative life a secret. and we spend all the of the second season really getting into dexters past and all thsi is just whetting the appetite. it has to get juicy.

trig

12-13-2006, 02:57 PM

I'd really like to see that. Unless, Rudy's plan works out. I think this all has been the buildup to the showdown between the two. I am seriously looking forward to this, more than any tv show I've ever been into. Except heroes maybe :)

kellermcgee21

12-17-2006, 01:34 PM

phixion wrote: is anyone else getting the feeling that the itk storyarc is going to end this coming episode? i mean i completely envision them all eventually finding the itk saving deb in the nick of time and the itk is killed an not captured, this leaves dexters alternative life a secret. and we spend all the of the second season really getting into dexters past and all thsi is just whetting the appetite. it has to get juicy. I really hope the ITK storyline doesn't go into season 2.

ChrisTheCop

12-17-2006, 02:23 PM

I just read in Variety that next season, the show will be re-named, "Rudy".              Just kidding. 3 and a half hours to go!

Sheeplovr

12-17-2006, 06:28 PM

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

Reephdweller

12-18-2006, 01:52 AM

I liked the season finale, it looks like Chris the Cop was pretty right on with everything. Good job budday! I'm curious how things will be between Dex and his girl now that she saw the shoe from her ex out there.  All in all this was a great first season. I'm just not really sure why Dokes got so nuts about Dexter from his actions on the show to warrant following him like that. It's his sister and how he goes about figuring things out should be up to him I think.

trig

12-18-2006, 12:12 PM

Dokes was suspicous of Dexter long before the whole Rudy situation, he knows something isn't right about him.  When Rudy turned up dead, I know that Dokes is thinking Dex is the prime suspect.  This next season is going to be very interesting.  Is there any word on when showtime plans on running it?

Kevin

12-18-2006, 12:24 PM

The only thing is Rudy did not look anything like Dexter. Anyone else feel a little bad when Dex killed Rudy? I mean he did some terrible things but he never really got a shot in life to be normal. I mean watching your mom get killed with a chainsaw is a pretty traumatic experience. Then just getting chucked into a physc ward until your 21 is a pretty shitty deck of cards to be dealt in life. I just felt kinda bad because it seemed he truly cared about Dexter. Am i wrong for rooting for Dex to turn on Deb and go with Rudy?? I know Deb did not deserve it but, I just kinda felt bad for the guy. I wish it ended some other way for the both of them. But other than Dex turing on Deb, it could not end any other way.  

This message was edited by Kevin on 12-18-06 @ 4:30 PM

ChrisTheCop

12-18-2006, 01:35 PM

I wasnt routing for dex to kill deb, but when it came to dex killing rudy, i felt for dex big time. go with someone you can totally be yourself with and never have to lie again or put on a false face? or go with the life given to you by a man whose lies you continue to unravel and know you will never just "be yourself"? i think if rudy was allowed to talk to him more, dex wouldve caved. i think dex thought so too, which is why he sliced him when he did. and i guess i'm in the minority, but i thought there was a resemblance between dex and rudy, especially at the end (once it was revealed). Ok, one has light hair, the other dark, but so do my sister and me. She also has blue eyes, and mine are brown. ANYWHO... I just think they both looked creepy; perfect considering who their folks were._________________________________________________ side note to JUSTJON: and anyone else i accidentally spoiled anything for in the listening thread 12/18/6. I  really wasnt thinking, and I'm sorry if I rooned the surprise. But, if you hadf listened to me a lonnng time ago, I had actually already called it-- so i was just excited.  __________________________________________________ ___ also, thanks reefy for the props.

trig

12-18-2006, 01:41 PM

Yeah I kinda wished I hadn't been to this thread before watching this final episode.  I didn't know what to think about Rudy's motives, never would have guessed the brother thing. Next season, i'm staying outta this thread  ;)

Brad_Rush

12-18-2006, 07:00 PM

I couldn't even watch when Dex was about to do the deed.  That was the most emotionally involved I have been to a character in a while and I felt for him having to do what he did.  Ron was right when he said it was Michael C. Hall that made the show what it is, because it certainly wasn't the (fairly) predictable story line that made it great.  Makes me want to go back and watch that six feet under show.Can't wait for season 2.  I have no clue where they will go with it from here.  I am hoping it will be a more spontaneous season now that they've put together the Dexter character and can really start to experiment with him.

rckiller

12-19-2006, 02:02 AM

I was sooo glad that Ronny made sure the last episode wasn't tipped off on yesterday's show. I watched it last night. Nice ending.....

Havoc

12-23-2006, 08:06 AM

i am still behind on ron and fez but has anyone told them that showtime completely changed the ending to make dexter more likable? it was still pretty good but they should have left some of these things in don't highlight what is below if you don't want to know what happened in the book la guerta dies in the book dexter almost kills deb dexter lets his brother escape because he likes his work so much (thus he does not die) cody was shown as a disturbed kid who could be the next dexter dexter thought he was the ice truck killer and that he killed during his sleep deb finds out dexter's secret etc 

This message was edited by Havoc on 12-23-06 @ 12:09 PM

ChrisTheCop

12-23-2006, 12:55 PM

well...half of those things listed can still indeed happen.stay tuned!

MadMatt

12-23-2006, 07:21 PM

I just got Showtime last weekend so I'm catching up on Dexter right now.  Great show!  I'm on episode 9 right now.I don't want to dig through the thread too much and spoil the end of the season for myself, but can someone please PM me with a detail about the season ending?  Do they kill off the sister?  Please tell me they kill off the sister.  God I can't stand her.Thanks Buddays

ChimneyFish

04-06-2007, 09:21 AM

I, too just got Showtime. Started watching a tape of episode 1, and in the middle the On Demand shut off because of the Emergency Broadcast System.:annoyed:
I was really digging it, too.
Tonight will be a mini marathon of the first 3 episodes.

MadMatt, I live somewhat close to you. Do you have Comcast????
My On Demand only has the first 3 episodes so far.

kellermcgee21

04-07-2007, 01:52 PM

if anybody wants to watch the episodes online go to: http://www.alluc.org/alluc/tv-shows.html?action=getviewcategory&category_uid=546

ChimneyFish

04-12-2007, 11:31 AM

They put up episodes 4-6 On Demand today.

drusilla

04-12-2007, 11:52 AM

i missed the last two episodes. it was off on demand before i got the chance to watch. so annoyed. almost forget what the hell is going on.

ChimneyFish

04-12-2007, 12:20 PM

i missed the last two episodes. it was off on demand before i got the chance to watch. so annoyed. almost forget what the hell is going on.

The last 2 of the season, or episodes 2 and three????

The last few should be back On Demand in around 2 weeks.

Plus, the DVD should be coming out soon, also.

drusilla

04-12-2007, 12:36 PM

last two of the season

ChimneyFish

04-12-2007, 01:01 PM

I would check 2-3 weeks from now.

I only recently got Showtime, and I am hooked after only 3 episodes.

JustJon

05-01-2007, 09:52 AM

So I downloaded Dexter and marathoned quite a bit of it this past weekend and last night. 9 episodes down and the show is fantastic. Can't wait to watch the last three this week.

ChimneyFish

05-01-2007, 12:39 PM

Just finished watching it this past weekend.
End of season one was great.
Can not wait for more.
My favorite show on television.

On a side note, I watched the first 2 episodes of season 2 of "Sleeper Cell".
Not bad.
Glad I finally got Showtime.

underdog

05-01-2007, 01:47 PM

On a side note, I watched the first 2 episodes of season 2 of "Sleeper Cell".
Not bad.
Glad I finally got Showtime.

Season 1 of Sleeper Cell was much better, but both seasons were really good. Definitely a great show.

Crippler

05-01-2007, 04:00 PM

So I downloaded Dexter and marathoned quite a bit of it this past weekend and last night. 9 episodes down and the show is fantastic. Can't wait to watch the last three this week.

I caught this series the same way. Knocked it off in one weekend because I couldn't stop watching. Great show.

Reephdweller

07-13-2007, 06:25 PM

Chimee

07-13-2007, 06:33 PM

I'm happy I got Showtime just in time for the re-airing of season 1 of Dexter. After reading the two books and watching season 1, I can't wait for the next one.

LiddyRules

07-13-2007, 07:01 PM

The promo for Season 2 of Dexter looks really good...I can't wait for this show to come back...

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/eL4SZ6cv1y0"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/eL4SZ6cv1y0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object> Hells yeah. My favorite show on TV right now. I can't wait for S2. I want the Emmys to shower this show with praises. But then again, they didn't give it to the Shield last year (Whittaker deserved a fucking supporting actor emmy).

Doctor Manhattan

07-30-2007, 03:48 PM

So he's still not gonna shave?

I'm watching the first couple episodes of the second season and it's still a great show!

hammersavage

09-03-2007, 09:55 PM

yeah, the first two eps of season 2 were amazing. Really set up the plot for season 2 well.

September 30th....

ChrisTheCop

09-03-2007, 09:58 PM

howd i miss the season premiere?

PapaBear

09-03-2007, 09:59 PM

yeah, the first two eps of season 2 were amazing. Really set up the plot for season 2 well.

September 30th....
I'm torn. I don't want to wait, but I'd hate to see them, then be disappointed that I've already seen them when the 30th rolls around.

ChrisTheCop

09-03-2007, 10:01 PM

I'm torn. I don't want to wait, but I'd hate to see them, then be disappointed that I've already seen them when the 30th rolls around.

ah. criminality's afoot!

StupidGirlllll

09-04-2007, 01:35 AM

How can you watch it before Sept 30 on demand?
:wallbash:

PapaBear

09-04-2007, 02:17 AM

yeah, the first two eps of season 2 were amazing. Really set up the plot for season 2 well.

September 30th....

howd i miss the season premiere?

I'm torn. I don't want to wait, but I'd hate to see them, then be disappointed that I've already seen them when the 30th rolls around.

ah. criminality's afoot!

How can you watch it before Sept 30 on demand?
:wallbash:
After reading hammersavage's post, I assumed it was on "OnDemand". I just checked, and I don't see it. I guess I'll just wait until the 30th. Problem solved!

hammersavage

09-04-2007, 08:16 AM

Ah the wonders of PIRACY.

Actually, Showtime 'accidentally leaked' the episodes themselves. They figure, and rightly so, that some people are more likely to watch them and create buzz if they feel like they were cheating the system and getting them for free, early online.

weekapaugjz

09-04-2007, 01:33 PM

i bought season 1 on dvd and am through the first four episodes. i love this show so far. unfortunately, i do not get showtime, so i will not be able to see it until it comes out on dvd.

i have to thank poochie for the rave reviews of the show in making up my mind wether to buy the set or not.

Ay Kay Forty2

09-04-2007, 07:30 PM

really great show. To be honest, I think I may have gotten the recommendation from Fez or that he was talking about. I heardly know anything about. All I know was that one of the brothers from Six Feet Under was a serial killer of sorts. I got a chance to see the last two episodes for winter break and i was blown away. And over the summer they have played the reruns every Sunday. So, I saw the last two episodes, then the last half of the season, then the first half. (kinda a fucked up way to watch a tv show. would hate to do that for Lost) ANYhow, the show is really great. I try to recommend it to whoever I can. It's kinda of an odd premise to tell people about A forsenic blood splatter expert that moonlights as a serial killer vigilante. It feels like describing the premise for Prison Break or Drive. Farfetch'd ideas that are entertaining. yea, i'm on of those guys that actually kinda laments Drive's fate.

Right now, I'm reading the first novel based on Dexter. Darkly, Dreaming, Dexter. It honestly reads like the first couple of episodes. would like to read the other books and I'm fully aware that the second season is completely original.

If anyone is a kinda/borderline anime/manga (japanese comic books) fan, check out Deathnote. It's about an ambitious student (think Apt Pupil if ya get the reference) who is given a book by a Death God (like a Grim Reaper) that if you write someone's name down, they will die. Kid tries to punish criminals and murders and create a new world order with his power and is hunted by a mysterious detective who wants to stop him. It's actually a well written comic and is always interesting.

Kevin

09-04-2007, 08:15 PM

Dexter Totaly ripped off Leary and Rescue Me in the 1st 2 eps..

The talking to dead people he knew shit..

ChrisTheCop

09-04-2007, 08:21 PM

Dexter Totaly ripped off Leary and Rescue Me in the 1st 2 eps..

The talking to dead people he knew shit..

fuck. here's a little warning folks...

when quoting a spoiler u havent read....the hidden spoiler actually shows up in the quote!

damn you, 2.0

ChrisTheCop

09-29-2007, 09:01 AM

TIVO ALERT!! TIVO ALERT!!!!!

Sunday night (TOMORROW!!)

9PM.

Showtime.

Dont miss this show.

Reephdweller

09-29-2007, 04:19 PM

My Tivo's done been set son!! I can't wait, it looks really good from the commercials.

ChrisTheCop

09-30-2007, 08:50 AM

TIVO ALERT!! TIVO ALERT!!!!!

Sunday night (TOMORROW!!)

9PM.

Showtime.

Dont miss this show.

He's right!
Do what he sayyy...do what he sayyyyyyy!!!!!!

IT'S TONIGHT!!!

WhistlePig

09-30-2007, 11:40 AM

I can't wait. I rented last season and watched all the episodes in 3 days. Then I ordered Showtime for tonight's premiere. I love this show! Though Dexter's sister gets on my nerves with all her "you close me out" speeches. He's not a woman, for christ sakes! Why do women think men need to chat about "feelings" like they do?

JimBeam

09-30-2007, 12:14 PM

Any idea on where they're going w/ the plot this season ?

TooLowBrow

09-30-2007, 12:45 PM

they find dexters bodies!

StupidGirlllll

09-30-2007, 04:40 PM

20 more minutes I am so excited I can not wait. I think 1 plot will be that his gf is going to start to suspect that all is not right with Dexter, remember last season she found the sneaker after her husband told her not to trust him.

Bay Ridge Tim

09-30-2007, 08:35 PM

ChrisTheCop

09-30-2007, 09:24 PM

Just watched the premiere. I'm ready to call this the best show on TV now that The Sopranos is gone.

I am stoked for this season. There is so much going on. Last season was so tense and so twisted, I hope the second season can carry it on.

It definitely looks like it can.
Slow start to this ep, but man did it build up in intensity!
Sucks to have to wait a week.

StupidGirlllll

10-01-2007, 05:40 AM

I like it, but I do not like to see Dexter not up on his game. I like the twisted Dex not the confused "off his game" dex

Bay Ridge Tim

10-01-2007, 07:24 AM

I like it, but I do not like to see Dexter not up on his game. I like the twisted Dex not the confused "off his game" dex

Obviously, that's going to be a main conflict. It will be interesting to see how he gets back on his game.

zerothehero

10-01-2007, 09:04 AM

Any idea on where they're going w/ the plot this season ?

Well last night they find the secret hiding place of Dexter's in the gulf / ocean. Because of this a "rock star" in the FBI community comes in, they ID many of the bodies, Debra (his sis) is on his team. Dex goes into therapy (at Rita's urging I think) and they make you think he tells his sponsor (a hot chick) about his little problem and how he deals with it. She's the only one to know other than his Dad.

Going to be a good season.

ChrisTheCop

10-01-2007, 08:45 PM

Well last night they find the secret hiding place of Dexter's in the gulf / ocean. Because of this a "rock star" in the FBI community comes in, they ID many of the bodies, Debra (his sis) is on his team. Dex goes into therapy (at Rita's urging I think) and they make you think he tells his sponsor (a hot chick) about his little problem and how he deals with it. She's the only one to know other than his Dad.

Going to be a good season.

I'm guessing she doesnt really know.
He tells her he has a compulsion/addiction, and maybe she assumes.
When he's on the phone with her, saying "I think Im gonna do it...I HAVE to do it"
she probably thinks he means shoot up or take a drink.
But yeah, she's hot... and somehow he walks in on her having sex.
Maybe she's a sex addict?

WhistlePig

10-02-2007, 11:46 AM

Really tense, great first episode. I was disappointed that Rita's husband died, though. I liked his character and his threat to Rita and Dexter.

ChimneyFish

10-02-2007, 01:01 PM

Digging the first episode.
Interested to see what happens with Little Chino.(don't need an answer. I actually had to stop reading some of the posts, because I prefer not knowing until I watch it:smoke:)

I can't get enough of Doakes.
Makes me laugh every time.

ChrisTheCop

10-02-2007, 08:54 PM

Digging the first episode.
Interested to see what happens with Little Chino.

Luckily, this isnt a David Chase Joint, so we'll probably find out.
Unlike that Pine Barren-running Russian Interior Decorator on the sopranos.

Bay Ridge Tim

10-07-2007, 10:11 PM

Another great episode. No other show makes my heart pound and makes me squirm more.

Side plot I'm waiting to see blow up: I smell bullshit with that "fiance trouble" line.

ChrisTheCop

10-07-2007, 10:29 PM

i felt like a really bad person cheering him on to kill lil chino...and when he did, i was so happy for him....

When I took the police psych exam, long long ago, there was a question that still bothers me today: "Have you ever routed for the bad guy in a movie?"

Man I stared at that question for a long ass time, and finally answered NO.

Sometimes you just do.

This season could actually end up better than last season.

PapaBear

10-07-2007, 10:37 PM

PapaBear

10-13-2007, 08:36 PM

I was just setting up my timer to record tomorrows episode, and I noticed something weird. We're getting cheated out of 8 minutes! It runs from 9PM to 9:52PM.

underdog

10-13-2007, 09:09 PM

I was just setting up my timer to record tomorrows episode, and I noticed something weird. We're getting cheated out of 8 minutes! It runs from 9PM to 9:52PM.

This past week's was only 56 minutes.

underdog

10-13-2007, 09:11 PM

This season could actually end up better than last season.

Its like they got everyone used to the formula they were using for last season and then completely changed it. Its awesome.

PapaBear

10-13-2007, 09:11 PM

I didn't notice that. I wish it was 2 hours.

PapaBear

10-15-2007, 12:54 AM

NOW I get it!

The hot sponsor and the FBI agent are also serial killers.

StupidGirlllll

10-15-2007, 02:44 AM

NOW I get it!

The hot sponsor and the FBI agent are also serial killers.

Well the FBI agent was a serial killer on Criminal Minds too, he plays good creepy charecters.

Rockvillejoe

10-15-2007, 08:58 AM

dexter is the best show on tv. californication, 2nd. predictions:i bet dexter's sister starts banging kung fu's brother, carradine, the rock star fbi guy, and she learns through his personal data by sleeping with him, that dexter is the bay harbor butcher. she will initially freak out, reeling from the fact that she is close to 2 serial killers, and give the impression that she will arrest him, but will understand why he does it, maybe by watching a videotape made by her father that was to be shown to her if she ever learned the truth, and cover up the evidence, and become like father harry and enable dexter.
i have no idea where they are going with that hot british babe, but the written dialogue on this show is fanatstic. thank god for showtime, especially after trying to get through a 1/2 hour of cye. that show has lost its edge. awful.

drjoek

10-15-2007, 09:26 AM

Rockvillejoe

10-15-2007, 12:40 PM

actually name of the game this go-round: low key baby. oh yes, i may in fact write every once in a blue moon. but know that there is always the occasional monitoring of this site for the overly anticpated musings of that rascal marc with a c and his ilk. oo-hoo, he is something! i may in fact offer my brilliant insights, poignant thoughts, and extraordinary high level of hilarity when the mood strikes, but then and only then; when i am i am motivated. that dexter show is so good, i was hoping to engage in some witty repartee with other dexterphiles such as the eminent mr. b. or perhaps the always provocative death metal moe if moe is still around. but for you kind sir, to actually remember my meager offerings of over a year ago on this sight of the extraordinary and the mongoloid, is actually quite humbling. for that accept my kindest appreciation.

StupidGirlllll

10-29-2007, 12:55 AM

Has everybody stopped watching? This season is a little darker than the first. I think his sponser has something to do with his brother the way she has all of her maniquins in pieces like that.

Rockvillejoe

10-29-2007, 07:00 AM

Has everybody stopped watching? This season is a little darker than the first. I think his sponser has something to do with his brother the way she has all of her maniquins in pieces like that.

The best show on TV. I never made that connection with the brother. Too coincidental in my book for that to happen. You know the sponsor is dead by the end of this season. I say suicide. She will learn the truth, that guarantees her demise. Talk about contrast: The dark haired, dark eyed side vs. the blond hair, blue eyed side. Did you catch the subtle yet obvious lighting when dex and his sponsor were driving in his car to confront his mother's murderer? the lighting in the car (at night) was a green glow on their faces. when dex comments that he and his girlfriend are on the outs, they put the camera on the sponsor's face and the lighting just for a brief instant becomes red. i love those subtle nuances on this show.... How is dex going to get away with the attempted murder of his mother's killer? He left so many clues, including spitting on the guy (DNA), the fact that the killer can go to the police and tell them who he was, etc.m has dex was not acting like dex. no planning, no plastic, too many clues. his father would be very disappointed.... could harry actually be his real father? apparently he was close to dex's mother...

LiddyRules

10-29-2007, 07:38 AM

Every week I forgot how much I love this show, how much I'm entranced by this show, then I always get so sad when it ends. I want a Lila in my life.

zentraed

10-29-2007, 08:27 AM

After last night's episode, I thought to myself, "I guess everyone at rf.net stopped watching."

Last night's episode was definitely one of my favorites. I love the relationship with Lila.

Rockvillejoe

10-29-2007, 08:45 AM

After last night's episode, I thought to myself, "I guess everyone at rf.net stopped watching."

Last night's episode was definitely one of my favorites. I love the relationship with Lila.

the dialogue between these two characters is so compelling. 2-3 episodes ago, when they were discussing the absolute nightmare of addiction, with Lila speaking so articulately and in detail about the "darkness of desire of addiction", and dex responding, "my dark passenger", it was riveting. whoever writes this show has obvioulsy had some addiction issues, it rings so spot on. Lila is 100 times the woman as the blonde. So far more deep, sexy and interesting. she is the type of chick that could weigh 175 lb. and still be attractive due to her personality...and that ain't easy.

Ay Kay Forty2

10-29-2007, 06:46 PM

I have this feeling that towards the end of the second season, that Dexter is going to frame Lila as the Bay Harbor Butcher. She's going to find out, blackmail him, something like that.

It's only a matter of time for Deb and lundy start knocking some boots.

Great show.

LiddyRules

10-29-2007, 06:55 PM

I keep going back and forth on the possibility of Lila being set up at the BCB.

PapaBear

10-29-2007, 06:56 PM

It's going to be interesting to see where they go with the surveillance coverage of him checking his boat. It's going to be obvious he was up to something, having been using that black light, and all.

pittphantoms

10-30-2007, 06:41 AM

I am guessing it is going toget framed that the ice truck killer did it ... he has to have the same DNA as Dexter - which is how they may be getting around it.

I agree Deb will be with the lead prosecutor very soon...

I am not quite sure where Lila's storyline is going... but she is awesome. Did you notice even though are are contrasting the two, they are letting Julie Benz start to dress hotter and wear makeup? She was such a POA when she was younger - I love they are starting to make her up again.

StupidGirlllll

10-30-2007, 07:16 AM

Doctor Manhattan

10-30-2007, 07:39 AM

I think his sponser has something to do with his brother the way she has all of her maniquins in pieces like that.

I do NOT want to find out that she was in that cargo container as well, and Dexter and his brother forgot (like Dexter forgot about his brother being in there)

I am guessing it is going toget framed that the ice truck killer did it ... he has to have the same DNA as Dexter - which is how they may be getting around it...

I believe that Dexter's brother was his older brother not his twin brother. They'd have to be identical twins in order to have the same DNA.

Is it possible for the DNA to show that they were related?

StupidGirlllll

10-31-2007, 02:15 AM

I do NOT want to find out that she was in that cargo container as well, and Dexter and his brother forgot (like Dexter forgot about his brother being in there)

I believe that Dexter's brother was his older brother not his twin brother. They'd have to be identical twins in order to have the same DNA.

Is it possible for the DNA to show that they were related?

I think so but to make it 100% sure we better ask Maury.

Reephdweller

10-31-2007, 03:04 AM

I am guessing it is going toget framed that the ice truck killer did it ... he has to have the same DNA as Dexter - which is how they may be getting around it.

I'm not an expert on DNA but I do know that everyone's individual is different from one another. There are common strains that show heredity and prove sibling relationships for the cases of paternity and whatnot but they wouldn't have the exact same DNA. If Dexter's DNA was found on those bodies it may show a relationship between the Ice Truck Killer and the Bay Harbor Killer but they would know that two separate people did those murders.

Great episode by the way. This season is by far the best thing on tv right now.

LiddyRules

10-31-2007, 08:56 AM

Something else about this show that I love and not many people talk about is the score. There is something so haunting and different about the soundtrack that further helps reels me in.

ChrisTheCop

11-02-2007, 11:05 PM

I didnt see the Lt sleeping with the other Lt's boyfriend! Sna-ap!

I'm glad to see that theyre starting to deepen the Sgt's character background, he was really very flat til now.

and did the spanish detective always talk funny? Its like he recently got a tongue ring or something.

and the upcoming ep ads really make this season look amazing. Cant wait.:clap:

pittphantoms

11-04-2007, 07:00 PM

I really think tonights episode was brilliantly filmed. They really are doing something special with the visuals on this show...

On the other hand... I just didn't like the episode all that much content wise tonight - it seems to me like Dexter is doing too much stuff around the office to prevent his capture that someone would catch on... they lose the bodies because of an AC problem... a file is deleted with time from the video missing - trust me, they would notice that... their main suspect/vigilante is discovered murdered just hours after he is released from custody... It just would be a bit too much for even the worst cops to overlook.

Also, why didn't Dexter go and get some heroin in his body so that he could just take a wiz quiz and prove he was an addict? I am sure he wouldn't want to, but it could help get the cop off his ass. He could probably just show up stoned at his sponsors too - which would help give him more cred with her as well.

Also, why are there no previews for next week with this show! It drives me crazy!

Rockvillejoe

11-04-2007, 07:27 PM

Something else about this show that I love and not many people talk about is the score. There is something so haunting and different about the soundtrack that further helps reels me in.

The opening soundtrack reminds me of your typical BBC production..I agree its very hooky. If you pay close attention, you can almost track how far along you are in each specific episode by the background music that is being played at that particular time. This is one show that I actually comment how great it is while i am watching it. 5 hour sitting watching this show? do it standing on my head gladly.

Rockvillejoe

11-04-2007, 07:31 PM

Also, why are there no previews for next week with this show! It drives me crazy![/QUOTE]

They want you to go to the website to see the coming attractions right after the show is over. If you watch the show the next day by the ON DEMAND replay, they add the coming attractions at that time.

Rockvillejoe

11-04-2007, 07:42 PM

Lila is the right fit for Dex. She is both physically dark and emotionally dark enough for this golden boy psycho......The blonde and her mother can go piss up a rope for all i care...BORING!.....That bespectacled asian "she male aficionado" is a hoot... his inappropriate behavior, (remember referring to his supervisor's hooters as melons, and that they looked bigger on tv? That alone would have had him fired way before now in real life. Watching porn on a police computer? that's termination grounds ..I don't buy for one second that Dex was successful in erasing that surveillance video.... They can recover deleted files like they are still there, right? He is leaving too many loose ends, I agree... Something's gonna give, but it ain't gonna be Dex getting collared. Why? No more DEXTER if that were to happen...that what makes this show great but a little flawed. still the best show on tv, bar none in my view at least...

Bay Ridge Tim

11-04-2007, 07:57 PM

ChrisTheCop

11-04-2007, 08:25 PM

On the one hand, I found last year's cat and mouse storyline much more compelling. I don't think there's any way they can top the total mind fuck that was the first season finale.

On the other hand, I have no clue where this season is going. That's a good thing. I'm totally guessing. I don't know who is taking the wrap, I have no idea what Lundy's deal is. I suspect there's more to him that we know right now. How many episodes are left?

Thats why I'm digging this season even more. Need I remind you, I figured out the ending right around this time last year. so to me the mind was less than fucked.

Lila is the right fit for Dex. She is both physically dark and emotionally dark enough for this golden boy psycho......The blonde and her mother can go piss up a rope for all i care...BORING!.....That bespectacled asian "she male aficionado" is a hoot...

The asian guy is C.S. Lee, and is also a hoot on nbc's "Chuck".
I have no idea what it is, but the writers want us to choose the Lila situation over the Rita one. I have a feeling it's setting us up for the mind fuck in the end. Lila is alot more than she's been revealed to be thus far.

... It just would be a bit too much for even the worst cops to overlook.

I didnt think of that...oh...wait...I mean....

zentraed

11-04-2007, 09:35 PM

StupidGirlllll

11-05-2007, 01:01 AM

Rockvillejoe

11-05-2007, 02:30 AM

I really think that Lila has something to do with the ITK, I believe that he was the bf that turned her onto drugs. I know she said that he died in the fire she set, but that is a lie..This is just my guess I wanted to post it to see if I am right in the end. The show usually has 13 episodes.

That's a clever idea, but how could she have possibly known that Dex would be attending an AA meeting. If memory serves me correctly, she was there at Dexter's 1st meeting, so it's not as if she had been tracking Dex and then made an appearance at his second meeting. If your prediction becomes reality, I'd lose a lot of respect for the writers. Way too unbelievable.......She is definitely a one season character, though. How do you sustain that intensity with a mass murderer? He'll kill Lila, then Rita's mom, and then go back to Rita as if everything was normal.

StupidGirlllll

11-05-2007, 04:02 AM

That's a clever idea, but how could she have possibly known that Dex would be attending an AA meeting. If memory serves me correctly, she was there at Dexter's 1st meeting, so it's not as if she had been tracking Dex and then made an appearance at his second meeting. If your prediction becomes reality, I'd lose a lot of respect for the writers. Way too unbelievable.......She is definitely a one season character, though. How do you sustain that intensity with a mass murderer? He'll kill Lila, then Rita's mom, and then go back to Rita as if everything was normal.

Maybe it was just a chance meeting...maybe it was not planned that it just happened that way...For some reason I just think that they are connected somehow.. Did you see how she had all those manequins sliced up & all apart in her art studio..

Rockvillejoe

11-05-2007, 04:55 AM

Maybe it was just a chance meeting...maybe it was not planned that it just happened that way...For some reason I just think that they are connected somehow.. Did you see how she had all those manequins sliced up & all apart in her art studio..

I did, and stupidly dismissed it almost right away. thats a great point. and yet she seems totally enthralled with him without reservation. and if she did have a hidden agenda, wouldn't she hide the mannequin's legs,etc., that aspect of her life? i bet its a red herring to evoke conversation/debate such as what we are doing. i will, however, keep an eye on her even more closely now, though.

Reephdweller

11-05-2007, 05:51 AM

I liked last nights episode very much. I think in the real world that deleted video file would not be noticed. There's too many bodies and too much evidence for anyone to notice in the moment. With that said, I think that after he deleted the video file he should have found the deleted files folder and cleared it out of there also.

Part of me has to wonder if Lundy has any suspicion about Dexter. He acts like it at times, but I think he's also trying to get a read on everyone so they're making it appear that way. I have a feeling that Dexter isn't on his radar at the moment, but if someone like Doakes makes a comment to Lundy, that could change things. I think that Lundy is the kind that doesn't say much but is doing the math in his head so he may have some ideas of who he thinks did it.

I've also been thinking that since Dex wants Doakes off his back, instead of killing him he might just frame him as the Bay Harbor Butcher, by planting evidence. Doakes already has two shootings on his record in recent months, he demonstrates a loose temper has and almost a vigilante style of his own that Dexter might use to his advantage to implicate him.

StupidGirlllll

11-05-2007, 06:05 AM

I've also been thinking that since Dex wants Doakes off his back, instead of killing him he might just frame him as the Bay Harbor Butcher, by planting evidence. Doakes already has two shootings on his record in recent months, he demonstrates a loose temper has and almost a vigilante style of his own that Dexter might use to his advantage to implicate him.

Good point Reef...he did kill that ex marine guy after he killed his wife.

That's a clever idea, but how could she have possibly known that Dex would be attending an AA meeting. If memory serves me correctly, she was there at Dexter's 1st meeting, so it's not as if she had been tracking Dex and then made an appearance at his second meeting. If your prediction becomes reality, I'd lose a lot of respect for the writers. Way too unbelievable.......She is definitely a one season character, though. How do you sustain that intensity with a mass murderer? He'll kill Lila, then Rita's mom, and then go back to Rita as if everything was normal.

I also think that she doesn't even know thats the ITK brother it is just all intertwined in some sick way.. I like to guess alot I am probably totaly off mark here.

ChrisTheCop

11-05-2007, 08:42 AM

Ok. now that I'm sleeping again, I'm also dreaming.

I had an epiphany this morning.

Lundy has been referred to as a father figure to Deb. He's about the same age their pop would be. How's this?: He worked with their dad--he was the fbi contact during the drug smuggling operation that went so terribly wrong. After what happened to his buddy's family (their dad), he changed his career path into tracking serial killers, and became numero uno in that department along the way? Now that dad's dead, He's there to solve the killings, yes. But also to be a daddy to his old partner's kids. At first, he was only interested in Deb, the blood child, but then he noticed her connection to Dex, or perhaps realized that Dex is a special person, and is now reaching out to him as well. Perhaps we'll hear him on one of Dexters audio tapes, talking about food, or saying "hey its 1 oclock, I always break for meal at 1 oclock". There is definitely more to Lundy than meets the eye!

As for Lila, no epiphany yet, but Stupidgirl's theory is the best Ive heard so far.

StupidGirlllll

11-05-2007, 01:42 PM

Ty, Sir

zildjian361

11-05-2007, 02:20 PM

cant get into it moves to slow.

LiddyRules

11-05-2007, 04:27 PM

cant get into it moves to slow. This show might have the most perfect pace of any show on TV right now. It's deliberate and intelligent and it strikes the right chords at the right time. I never get as wrapped up in a show, feel as much suspense in a show, as I have in Dexter. I forgot how much the show sucks me in. I have never thought that it moved too slow. This is probably a big of an exaggeration but the last couple of episodes have had as many edge on your seat moments as a season of 24.

I want my own Lilah.

ChimneyFish

11-06-2007, 07:57 AM

I was actually worried when the task force was coming up on the box car that Dexter was in.

One thing I've noticed recently, is how great the music is. They don't use a lot, but from the opening theme until the end, it's just fantastic.

StupidGirlllll

11-06-2007, 08:03 AM

cant get into it moves to slow.

Then do not watch it.

zentraed

11-06-2007, 09:43 AM

cant get into it moves to slow.

If you didn't get in from the beginning and don't understand the characters, you're probably missing a lot of the tension. The pacing is perfect.

weezcase

11-06-2007, 09:54 AM

don't know how much this has been covered, but some of the actors hamper my ability to really buy into the show. doakes and debbie are interesting characters, but the actors who portray them may not have been the best choice.

i really like the idea of dex setting up doakes as the bay harbor butcher though. not only would it remove him from the show, but also be a great way for dexter to get out of trouble. It only makes sense that they will somehow figure out that only someone from the miami pd could know about all the victims so this might wrap things up nicely. if this is going to work though, doakes is going to have to kill a suspect who was innocent or a bystandard so dexter feels ok with setting him up

Kevin

11-06-2007, 10:10 AM

pittphantoms

11-06-2007, 02:17 PM

Deb drove me crazy last year - I thought she was to Dexter what that Eric charachter is to Entourage... but she has completely grown on me. I totally buy her now...

Chris from TX

11-06-2007, 02:38 PM

I caught this weeks episode and am pleasantly surprised they have kept it fresh. I don't have Showtime, so this is only the second episode I have seen this season. Love the additions of Bay Harbor Butcher and Dexter's sponsor.

Rockvillejoe

11-06-2007, 07:35 PM

While rewatching the replay, it is so goddamned obvious that Lundy knows it's maddening. Unless it's another red herring to murky the waters. But checkout the first scene this week with dex and lundy. Add to that Dokes nosing around and it makes you wonder how dex is still walking around free. Also, Lundy is checking all hard drives? Doesn't Dex uses his computer at work to help locate and investigate his potential victims? If Lundy is all that, he's got dex. Maybe he is trying to see if there are any accomplices. Regarding the pacing: what do you need? a faster pace? This isn't some inane comedy, or a CSI borefest. This show is one of the best of the decade, maybe of all time.

ChrisTheCop

11-06-2007, 09:25 PM

Rockvillejoe

11-07-2007, 03:38 AM

Remember late at night, Deb walks into the office, sees Lundy. Both are surprised to see the other working so late. Deb is gonna do logs on surveillance. Lundy is making sure the surveillance at Dexter's marina is online. What else is happening that same night? Dex cleans his boat. Could be that erasing the vid wasnt necessary; Lundy saw it live. He was suddenly quite interested in Dexter partaking in the investigations.

My father figure theory continues; he came to miami to look after Deb for an old friend... and stumbles on her step brother being a serial killer! How does he handle this without hurting Deb further, who was so closely fucked up by the ITK...now her brother??? And of course, his old partner, Harry Morgan's memory would suffer as well.

I buy into most of what you are saying but not the father figure theory. Way too coincidental. He came to Miami, per their request , and because he is a heavy hitter, detective genius. In reality, in a case of this magnitude, don't you think the feds would have brought in more than just 3 or 4 fbi's? Especially with the repubs in power in fla. and wanting that to continue post bush. The only plausible reason that he hasn't arrested dex is because he just doesn't have enough direct evidence. Having said that, it's hard to believe he would allow dex to continue to kill unabated. They would have every facet of his life wired and under 24 hour surveillance. From bugging his car, apartment, camera case, to planting homing devices in his shoes and activating the cell phone surveillance on his cell phone. Ahhh! This season is filled with red herrings. It reminds me of the Sopranos, second or third season, where they left so many things out there for debate.

ChrisTheCop

11-07-2007, 08:27 AM

well, he's only killing killers, remember. And even the fbi can appreciate that. Lundy seemed satisfied, even relieved that the fake butcher had been taken care of (now maybe he owes the real butcher a favor?) And yes, the fbi is there as per Miami's request, but behind the scenes how do we not know he didnt pull some strings/push some buttons to be the one to go? In hollywood, theres a thin line between cop and criminal, psychiatrist and psycho.

ChimneyFish

11-07-2007, 08:45 AM

I don't know if I'm buying that Lundy knows.
Just seems too simple.

I will agree with joe, though.
This has become my favorite show of all time.

ChrisTheCop

11-07-2007, 08:53 AM

ChimneyFish

11-07-2007, 10:54 AM

you would dare go against the theory of the kid who figured it all out last season????

well, actually, I'm not as sure about this theory as I was last season. But it sure looks good to me! We're gonna hear Lundy on one of Harry Morgan's tapes... I just know it. Come along for the ride, itll feel good when we're right!

Oh, I definitely think we're going to hear Lundy on one of the tapes.
And the more I've been thinking about it, who's to say that Harry didn't tell Lundy about Dexter, in case he wasn't around, he'd always have another cop/agent to look after him.
You guys might be right after all.:smoke:

JimBeam

11-09-2007, 12:15 PM

I think the show has picked up a bit the last few weeks so I'm glad.

Interesting point about Lundy possibly being the dad's friend ( or maybe even somebody his adopted mom was having an affair with and who promised to look after her kids ).

I don't think Dexter will do anything to Doakes, either physcially or setting him up, because that's not what his character is about.

Doakes is innocent and he won't kill an innocent person even to save himself.

Same goes for Rita's mom. He won't just kill her unless there's some kinda twist they throw at us which give him a reason, other than saving himself, to kill her.

It's this tension, between him being good and bad, that keeps the show going.

The minute he starts doing things just to save himself you'll lose the sympathy for him.
It's tough to respect him even as a guy killing bad guys because he is killing people.

Looks like they'll be a nice fight between Doakes and Dexter this week.

I think Dexter can take him.

What I could see happening is Doakes gets fired/suspended, starts to track Dexter's moves, and then somehow gets killed by another character ( maybe the sponsor ).

Maybe even something along the lines of where Doakes actually catches Dexter doing something, is fighting with him/looking like he's going to kill him, and somebody ( the Lietenant or the heavy detective, both of who's names have slipped my mind )who's now aware of Doakes' issues w/ Dexter sees this and kills Doakes thinking he's snapped and is attacking an " innocent " Dexter.

chubbyknuckles

11-09-2007, 12:36 PM

i'm a huge fan of the show, but what i don't get is why this season the writers(on strike or not) threw away one of the best things going with dexter, the empathy, for some reason , that the audience had with him. The way they set him up in the first season is WAAAAAAY more than enough to make us all go along for whatever ride. So now they they have shown harry to have beeen a liar about certain things and not the greatest guy, cut dexter loose, he's a serial killer, make him take on the whole force and fuck them up or something more interesting than the current story line.

Rockvillejoe

11-11-2007, 12:40 PM

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Looks like they'll be a nice fight between Doakes and Dexter this week.

I think Dexter can take him.......

No question about it. Look at Doaks. He's about 5'5 in heels. They always try to have apart in elevators, etc. if he is with a man. he is about the same height as his lt. that he used to bang.
doaks has got that little ceaser complex too. A huge chip on his shoulder. But a great character for the show to keep dex on his toes. looking forward to tonights installment.

JimBeam

11-11-2007, 01:00 PM

I like Doakes' character as much of a docuhe as he is.

I love how he gets pissy so easily.

StupidGirlllll

11-11-2007, 02:23 PM

From the comming attratctions last week this week looks like Lila is going to be a fire starter. I also would like to add I am loving the new Dexter...he has a different look in his eye.

ChrisTheCop

11-11-2007, 02:29 PM

From the comming attratctions last week this week looks like Lila is going to be a fire starter. I also would like to add I am loving the new Dexter...he has a different look in his eye.

dont forget she has a history there; she supposedly burned down her boyfriends house with him in it.

and that new look in his eye is humanity. Sadly, he's starting to care about things and people.

Bay Ridge Tim

11-11-2007, 09:55 PM

Great episode, my favorite of the season. It was the first one where I got that fucked-up first season vibe really hard. Best show on TV not named The Wire.

I loved the idea of Dexter sending in the manifesto. Lundy is up to something. He either knows more or he's hiding something.

My guess? Dexter sets up Doakes as the BHB. Not sure how Lila plays in to everything. I can't wait to see where this goes.

Rockvillejoe

11-11-2007, 10:56 PM

Lila will be killed by dexter. at the end of this episode when dex looked at the "replaced" light bulb, it hit him that lola had done the same manipulation to him by setting the fire. dex realises that the only way to get away from this addictive obsessive, dangerous fire starter is by killing her and resuming his "normal" homicidal life with rita and the kids....
where are they going with the doaks character? he is now totally focused and on to dexter. now that he has been relieved of duty, he will spend 24 hours following him....lola is good in small doses, but having her in over 1/2 of the scenes got a little tedious to me.

zentraed

11-11-2007, 11:25 PM

Rockvillejoe

11-12-2007, 04:40 AM

He wasn't happy with the manipulation, but I don't think he'll kill her unless it turns out she's been torching all of her ex-boyfriends :furious:.

Thats a great point. Then she would normal qualify. But still, dex lacks the tools to eliminate people from his life by normal means. Hence his inability to forge any relationships other than Lila, rita and his sister. This whole AA arc with dex seems too contrived and inconsistent with something dex would normally do. His whole obsession with flying under the radar and attempting to be invisible in life has been thrown out. I guess it was a necessary device to introduce lila. It's like Larry David putting up with a new orleans family ths whole season. inconsistent with the character's personality. unbelievable. Anyway,if Lila discovers the truth about dex, I say she will be wearing a cleaver in her neck regardless if she's a serial pyro or not. time will tell.... Do you think Doaks will eventually be wrapped in plastic on the table? I say he will. He will doggedly pursue dex, find the truth, and pay the price.

StupidGirlllll

11-12-2007, 05:55 AM

Did you see next weeks coming attractions? Who is breaking into Ritas house when Dex tells her to get out of the house & call the cops.. Is it Lila?

WhistlePig

11-12-2007, 06:28 AM

Does anyone else love the intro to this show? I watch it in full every time. Who knew eggs, coffee beans and shoelaces could look so disgusting and threatening!

underdog

11-12-2007, 07:24 AM

That was the best episode of the season. And this is the best show on television. It just keeps getting better.

LiddyRules

11-12-2007, 07:50 AM

Another great episode. Best show on TV easy. I also love seeing how messed up everyone else is.

StupidGirlllll

11-12-2007, 09:47 AM

Does anyone else love the intro to this show? I watch it in full every time. Who knew eggs, coffee beans and shoelaces could look so disgusting and threatening!

Yea I see ham steak in a whole new lite now.. Who would of thought it looks soo much like skin.

pittphantoms

11-12-2007, 01:35 PM

I have to DVR this show to get past the opening credits

Anyway... looks like someone is dieing next week - I am going to assume it will be the guy from Naples who killed him mom...

Also, I am shocked he would provoke Doakes - because he really is a serious problem now that all he has to do is follow Dexter around all the time.

P.S. Nice job showing off Lila last night... very hot.

JimBeam

11-12-2007, 02:30 PM

I can't believe you guys that watch the show regularly think Dexter would kill Doakes.

That would defeat the whole sympathetic character angle.

I can't believe he went as far as to set him up but I think that was because Doakes was playing dirty.

No way Dexter kills Doakes unless it's by accident in a struggle or some other strange twist.

Reephdweller

11-12-2007, 08:14 PM

I really liked this last episode. I think Dexter is slowly building his setup to frame the Doakes as the Bay Harbor Butcher. I have an odd feeling though that Dexter is getting sloppy and the manifesto idea while kind've cool was also more revealing than anything.

I do feel more and more with each episode that Lundy if left to his devices would figure it out that Dexter is his man. I don't think he realizes it yet, but he's slowly coming around to it. I also think the fact that they didn't even touch the issue of the surveillance videos this episode really speaks to it being something below the radar will re-emerge down the road.

pittphantoms

11-13-2007, 05:46 AM

I can't believe you guys that watch the show regularly think Dexter would kill Doakes.

That would defeat the whole sympathetic character angle.
No way Dexter kills Doakes unless it's by accident in a struggle or some other strange twist.

I think Dexter would do it to save his skin... especially this season. That said, Doakes is going to hang himself somehow...

MM2

11-13-2007, 05:52 AM

I think Dexter would do it to save his skin... especially this season. That said, Doakes is going to hang himself somehow...

I think Doakes will get killed somehow and then Dexter will set up the evidence that leads to Doakes. I don't think he will kill Doakes on purpose. I think someone else said that he will kill Doakes in self defense or something along those lines. I can see that and then Dexter sets up the evidence to lead to Doakes. They are already looking for someone with a Law Enforcement background.

StupidGirlllll

11-13-2007, 06:00 AM

buckcorncobb

11-13-2007, 06:34 AM

This weeks episode was back to where the show has been in the past....at first I was a little upset that the show does not follow the book at all(at least the last 2) but the writers have done a good job of bringing in elements of the books in so the show..the show is like a new book in itself

StupidGirlllll

11-13-2007, 06:38 AM

buckcorncobb

11-13-2007, 08:21 AM

yeah there are 3 books out there ...one just came out about a month or 2 ago...

StupidGirlllll

11-13-2007, 08:21 AM

Wait what are they called & do you know how season 2 is going to end?

buckcorncobb

11-13-2007, 08:35 AM

the first one is Darkly Dreaming Dexter and I cant remember the other 2...i will check when I get home..I have no idea what is going to happen but if you want contact me so I can tell you what has happened in the book..I dont want to spoil it for anyone who wants to or might read the book..I will tell you there are some major differences