Iron Man!

[King Imp]

<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movies/09/29/film.ironman.reut/index.html" target="_self">Robert Downey Jr.?</a>&nbsp;</p>

[cougarjake13]

<p>not sure if i agree with the casting</p><p>as recent history proves, big name actors in comic book movies havent fared well, </p><p>affleck in daredevil, clooney in batman</p><p>i would have preferred a relative unknown like they did with the new superman</p>

[Sheeplovr]

<p>man im suprised they dont jsut can the iron man movie since they wrote him to be such a nazi dick in the comics these days </p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[bobrobot]

<p><strong><font color="#000099">I'm more partial to Irony Man...</font></strong></p><p><img height="375" src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/bobogolem/Ironyman.jpg" width="245" border="0" /></p><p><strong><font color="#000099">&amp; the best part is... &nbsp;anyone from Seattle could play the part...</font></strong></p>

[phixion]

<p>he's 6'5&quot;, made of iron, and for some reason he smells like christian slater</p><p>this is probably done in advance so when tony stark starts drinking the movie will get more pr considering mr downey's demons. but hey more importantly are we going to see a nice steretypical chinamen as the mandarin? if it were up to me if put in jet li the guy just retired from real martial arts flicks so lets just give him some rings and a green screen. </p>

[JustJon]

I think Downey is an interesting choice.&nbsp; He's a good actor, and really it's more important how someone can portray Tony Stark than Iron Man.&nbsp; I'm looking forward to seeing this.<br />

[Coach]

You Don't think Tony Stark will come off as too..... Femme?

[narc]

I thought this was going to be about Lord of Iron.

[Justice4all]

<p>Well I thought Clooney did fairly well as Batman/Bruce Wayne considering the shit script and typical Villans-are-bigger-then-hero casting.</p><p>Robert Downy Jr. as Tony Stark? HELL NO! You need someone who LOOKS the part as well as plays the part. These are not characters where&nbsp; you used your imagination on how he looked like DaVinci Code, these are ILLUSTRATED people who have distinct characteristics. Peter Parker was a scrawny kid, Reed Richards was a tall nerdish scientist, and so on.</p><p>Tony Stark is an inventor/playboy who has dark features, strong chin and dark hair/moustache. He is also NOT a small man either. I can think of two or three other people who could pull off Tony Stark before R.D.Jr. </p><p>How about Daniel Sunjata, he plays Franco on Rescue Me.</p><p>Or maybe Eddie Cibirian or Bobby Cannavale from Third Watch. Any of those guys could and would pull off Tony Stark alot better then that idiot.</p><p>If Antonio Banderas was&nbsp; not so much older he could also pull it off.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[FUNKMAN]

<p>i like the old iron man</p><p><img src="http://www.photofile.com/Photos/Albums/16_X_20_Album/images/63_LouGehrig.jpg" border="0" /></p><p>but i like Downey's acting... except for NaturalBornKillers </p>

[TheMojoPin]

An inspired choice.&nbsp; It sucks Downey's such a 'tard and couldn't keep himself clean because I think he's one of the best actors I've ever seen.&nbsp; Anyone else see <em>Kiss Kiss Bang Bang</em>?&nbsp; The whole sequence in the pink-haired chick's house?&nbsp; Christ, what a range he has.

[Marc with a c]

<p>you mean this guy?</p><p><img src="http://www.hollandfamilyblog.com/images/WeirdScience26-thumb.jpg" border="0" /></p><p>he'll be fine.</p>

[RapistWit]

I think that the biggest concern for this film is that Jon Favreau<a href="http://www.ronfez.net/name/nm0269463/"></a>&nbsp;is directing it. The guy is AWFUL! I'd rather see Paul O direct this flick.

[TheMojoPin]

<strong>RapistWit</strong> wrote:<br />I think that the biggest concern for this film is that Jon Favreau<a href="http://www.ronfez.net/name/nm0269463/"></a>&nbsp;is directing it. The guy is AWFUL! I'd rather see Paul O direct this flick. <p>Ugh.</p><p>Favreau isn't a terrible filmmaker, but this is NOT the kind of thing he should be directing.</p>

[Justice4all]

<strong>FUNKMAN</strong> wrote:<br /><p>i like the old iron man</p><p><img src="http://www.photofile.com/Photos/Albums/16_X_20_Album/images/63_LouGehrig.jpg" border="0" /></p><p>but i like Downey's acting... except for NaturalBornKillers </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Good call funk...if his nickname was not the Iron HORSE!</p><p>Close though....close!</p>

[Tenbatsuzen]

<p>Ok, Downey Jr. is short.&nbsp; But just because you're short doesn't mean you plausibly can't pull off action.&nbsp; (See: Tom Cruise in the MI movies.&nbsp; Yes, he's nuts, but he's shorter than RDjr and he could do it)</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I mean, Tony Stark is a tortured, playboy alcoholic.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Robert Downey Jr. is a tortured, recovering addict.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Personally I think the casting is inspired.</p>

[phixion]

since tenbats brought lord xenu up shouldnt we be glad that he isnt the head of stark enterprises

[Coach]

<p>Eddie Cibirian</p><p>well he was in rehab</p>

[legroommusic]

did he beat out john cryer and andrew mcarthy for the part?

[cougarjake13]

<strong>legroommusic</strong> wrote:<br />did he beat out john cryer and andrew mcarthy for the part? <p>you forgot about anthony michael hall</p>

[silas]

<strong>TheMojoPin</strong> wrote:<br />An inspired choice.&nbsp; It sucks Downey's such a 'tard and couldn't keep himself clean because I think he's one of the best actors I've ever seen.&nbsp; Anyone else see <em>Kiss Kiss Bang Bang</em>?&nbsp; The whole sequence in the pink-haired chick's house?&nbsp; Christ, what a range he has. <p>&quot;inspired&quot;...i agree.</p><p>I think top-notch acting chops are a big part of making any superhero role&nbsp;go beyond the movie (as good or bad as it may be).</p><p>Casting&nbsp;is key (mmm...many Vivid plotlines..) and&nbsp;i&nbsp;would guess he can nicely project&nbsp;the range of the character's sardonic, flawed genius....without being physically inprobable.</p><p>At the least, i'm glad to hear they are going in direction of&nbsp;not just 100% heavy-artillary action style...which there will undoubtably be, and that i also look forward to...why not have both?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>

[CaptClown]

<p><font size="3">I actually don't have a problem with him playing Ironman. Maybe it will make be forget.</font></p><p><font size="3">&nbsp;<img height="196" src="http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/coverv/75/209475_thumb.jpg" width="144" border="0" /></font></p>

[Gvac]

<strong>Coach</strong> wrote:<br />You Don't think Tony Stark will come off as too..... Femme?<p>&nbsp;</p><p>There's no such thing as <em>too </em>femme when it comes to Tony Stark.&nbsp; </p><p>I always hated that cocksucker.&nbsp;</p>

[FUNKMAN]

<p>i like this iron man</p><p><img src="http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/i/ironsheik/03.jpg" border="0" /></p><p>but then again Downey's acting is really top notch...</p>

[King Imp]

<p>I must be missing something here. It's a friggin' superhero movie. Who give a shit about the acting? </p>

[FUNKMAN]

<p><strong><font size="1">Meet your new Iron Man</font></strong> </p><p>how's he with the pleats?</p><p><img height="180" src="http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38181000/jpg/_38181986_ironeye300.jpg" width="300" border="0" /></p>

[Tenbatsuzen]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><p>not sure if i agree with the casting</p><p>as recent history proves, big name actors in comic book movies havent fared well, </p><p>affleck in daredevil, clooney in batman</p><p>i would have preferred a relative unknown like they did with the new superman</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I never had a problem with Affleck as Daredevil OR Clooney as Batman.&nbsp; It's not their fault the movie that surrounded them was a shit sandwich.</p><p>And Batman and Robin was out 9 years ago.</p><p>(And I really don't get the Daredevil hate... it made $100,000,000.&nbsp; I guess it's because he's so near and dear to the fanboys' hearts.)&nbsp;</p><p>Fantastic Four was filled with no-names outside of Alba.&nbsp; I think Alba was a poor-ass choice for Sue Storm.&nbsp; Chiklis made for a decent Thing, but I didn't like the makeup.</p><p>Brandon Routh is a no-name, and you can see how Superman Returns underperformed.</p><p>So no-names don't exactly work for Superhero roles either. &nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Robert Downey Jr. is not a &quot;big name actor&quot;.&nbsp; He is well-known, even infamous, but he is NOT a A-List personality who &quot;opens&quot; movies.&nbsp; He's known more for smaller, indepdent roles.</p><p>And I have NEVER liked Tobey Maguire as Spider-Man.&nbsp; I think Topher Grace or Gyllenhaal would have been MUCH better for the role, but it's an overall great movie.&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[DirtyJersey]

I love it, Robert Downey Jr. is charasmatic enough to pull off Tony and he has had real life substance abuse problems to relate to Tony's alcoholism (if they decide to cover that).

[booster11373]

The less they pay the lead the more they can put in to EFX right?

[phixion]

and terrence howard is war machine. i like that pick alot

[DJEvelEd]

<p>Iron Man is my favorite superhero. Robert Downey will be fine. Size shouldn't matter because Alan Ladd was like 4 feet tall but you would never know it because of the use of camera angles and raised floors. He always beat the shit out of the bad guy.</p><p>Downey should go on a nice bender before filming to get back&nbsp;into character. Just a weekend with a&nbsp;little crystal meth and some booze would give him that nice burnt out look again.</p>

[Captain Rooster]

<p>Link the Image ... the link on page one says, Not found. </p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[DJEvelEd]

<p>2008? Damn! Are they waiting for Downey to sober up? </p><p>This can't be worse than the new Superman movie where the Man Of Steel was a deadbeat dad (who whimpers when beat up)&nbsp;and Lois was a whore.</p><p><a href="http://www.ironmanmovie.com/">http://www.ironmanmovie.com/</a></p><p>At least the new website is VERY interactive.&nbsp;I really felt&nbsp;like&nbsp;I was&nbsp;riding inside his armor and blowing shit up.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[MadMatt]

<strong>DJEvelEd</strong> wrote:<br /><p>2008? Damn! Are they waiting for Downey to sober up? </p><p>This can't be worse than the new Superman movie where the Man Of Steel was a deadbeat dad (who whimpers when beat up)&nbsp;and Lois was a whore.</p><p><a href="http://www.ironmanmovie.com/">http://www.ironmanmovie.com/</a></p><p>At least the new website is VERY interactive.&nbsp;I really felt&nbsp;like&nbsp;I was&nbsp;riding inside his armor and blowing shit up.</p><p>Jerk.</p><p>I was looking forward to wasting a few minutes playing around on the site.</p><p>Double-jerk.</p>

[Don Stugots]

<strong>MadMatt</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>DJEvelEd</strong> wrote:<br /><p>2008? Damn! Are they waiting for Downey to sober up? </p><p>This can't be worse than the new Superman movie where the Man Of Steel was a deadbeat dad (who whimpers when beat up) and Lois was a whore.</p><p><a href="http://www.ironmanmovie.com/">http://www.ironmanmovie.com/</a></p><p>At least the new website is VERY interactive. I really felt like I was riding inside his armor and blowing shit up.</p><p>Jerk.</p><p>I was looking forward to wasting a few minutes playing around on the site.</p><p>Double-jerk.</p><p>&nbsp;nice work.&nbsp; </p>

[King Imp]

<p>I honestly don't know anything about the character she is playing, so I ask you, is this a good or bad casting choice? </p><p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/17/film.paltrow.reut/index.html">Gwyneth Paltrow in Iron Man</a>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[NewYorkDragons80]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><p>not sure if i agree with the casting</p><p>as recent history proves, big name actors in comic book movies havent fared well, </p><p>affleck in daredevil, clooney in batman</p><p>i would have preferred a relative unknown like they did with the new superman</p><p>&nbsp;Yeah, but Daredevil rocked.</p>

[phixion]

<p>Yeah, but Daredevil rocked. </p><p>and u just lost all my respect i had for you.</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>phixion</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Yeah, but Daredevil rocked. </p><p>and u just lost all my respect i had for you.</p><p>the only good thing about daredevil was jennifer garner/elektra </p>

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Here's a link to the very first released picture of Tony Stark as Iron Man. He's wearing the first version of the Iron Man suit, the one he creates to escape from his captors before eventually creating the familiar gold and red one. Jack Kirby-esque Iron Man suit still image. (http://www.superherohype.com/nextraimages/ironmanarmor2.jpg)

[SpicyMcHaggis]

http://www.superherohype.com/nextraimages/ironmanarmor2.jpg

Alright fine. Here's an actual picture.

[cougarjake13]

http://www.superherohype.com/nextraimages/ironmanarmor2.jpg

Alright fine. Here's an actual picture.

sorry brah but i dont see no picture

[MrPink]

http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Black-Sabbath-Poster-C10288139.jpeg

[IamFogHat]

Here you go buddays

http://www.filmwad.com/-iron-man-suit-revealed--2175-p.html

[Tenbatsuzen]

http://i.usatoday.net/life/_photos/2007/04/27/ironmanx-large.jpg

[EliSnow]

Here's Iron Man, from Entertainment Weekly:
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/2690/ironmanlny9.jpg

Here's the Link (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20037509,00.html)

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Wow, that's amazing. Looks just like the current version. I can't wait for the teaser trailer.

[TheMojoPin]

OK, I'm getting pretty optimistic about this flick. Downey is the man, but this is looking better and better.

[MadMatt]

Wow, that's amazing. Looks just like the current version. I can't wait for the teaser trailer.

I had hoped a trailer would be out by now. They may be waiting until the Spiderman furor dies down. Let Spiderman have his day and then start bringing out Ironman stuff.

Hell, they haven't put out that much RE: the new Fantastic Four and it's coming out relatively soon.

[EliSnow]

Wow, that's amazing. Looks just like the current version. I can't wait for the teaser trailer.

I agree. It's a great look. Here's hoping we get a good movie.

[JustJon]

I have complete and utter faith in Favreau at this point.

[cougarjake13]

I had hoped a trailer would be out by now. They may be waiting until the Spiderman furor dies down. Let Spiderman have his day and then start bringing out Ironman stuff.

Hell, they haven't put out that much RE: the new Fantastic Four and it's coming out relatively soon.


yeh and the crazy thing is FF comes out a few weeks after spidey 3 on june 15 th

[IamFogHat]

Here's the new suit.
http://www.filmwad.com/first-look-at-iron-man-s-suit-2325-p.html

[cougarjake13]

Here's the new suit.
http://www.filmwad.com/first-look-at-iron-man-s-suit-2325-p.html

looks pretty bad ass

[IamFogHat]

New trailer. Doesn't look that great if you ask me.
http://filmdrunk.com/post.phtml?pk=557

[MadMatt]

New trailer. Doesn't look that great if you ask me.
http://filmdrunk.com/post.phtml?pk=557

This trailer sucks compared to the other ones, but I am still looking forward to the movie.

But what do you expect - it is a short, catch-all version meant to throw a lot at you at once hoping something will stick and you will want to check out more.

[EliSnow]

New Iron Man trailer (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=148529)

[IamFogHat]

Now I'm totally on board with this flick. Looks awesome.

[MadMatt]

Goddamnit. Now I'm getting excited about this flick and I didn't want to get excited. I really don't want to be disappointed and now my hopes are starting to climb.

[Drunky McBetidont]

that looked great.

[Furtherman]

I don't know shit about the comic, but it looks like it's gonna be a fun movie.

[cougarjake13]

Goddamnit. Now I'm getting excited about this flick and I didn't want to get excited. I really don't want to be disappointed and now my hopes are starting to climb.

yeh

daredevil looked cool in the trailers also, but sucked


hopefully this wont

[EliSnow]

yeh

daredevil looked cool in the trailers also, but sucked


hopefully this wont

I liked Daredevil. Yes, there was some miscasting, but I thought it was an enjoyable film.

[MadMatt]

I liked Daredevil. Yes, there was some miscasting, but I thought it was an enjoyable film.

The special effects/CGI were good, and the story had a solid core, but the details, crumby casting, and slack acting just turned me off completely.

Of course I wasn't expecting Olivier, but it seemed to me that most of the cast was almost embarrassed to be there. Collin Ferrell was pretty committed to the role, and Michael Clarke Duncan almost had the role down, but otherwise I wasn't impressed with the main characters (and I don't count Foggy as a main character - Favreau was pretty good).

I'm not saying that it was Highlander II, but I was pretty disappointed.

[NewYorkDragons80]

I think Robert Downey Jr's face is a total match, but I don't physically see him as an action star. Mark Wahlberg with a goatee would've been a badass Tony Stark. "I'm the guy who's bulletproof and has jet boots, you must be the other guy," what a badass Marky Mark is.

[TheMojoPin]

I think Robert Downey Jr's face is a total match, but I don't physically see him as an action star. Mark Wahlberg with a goatee would've been a badass Tony Stark. "I'm the guy who's bulletproof and has jet boots, you must be the other guy," what a badass Marky Mark is.

I guess it's a good thing that this is a movie about a guy in an armored suit and not someone running around in tights or bondage leather.

[MadMatt]

I think Robert Downey Jr's face is a total match, but I don't physically see him as an action star. Mark Wahlberg with a goatee would've been a badass Tony Stark. "I'm the guy who's bulletproof and has jet boots, you must be the other guy," what a badass Marky Mark is.

But Stark wasn't always a buff guy - they just started drawing him that way relatively recently. He is an inventor/engineer, and although he has always been fit & trim, the armor provides all the muscle.

I think Downey's look, attitude, and acting chops more than make up for the additional bulk the modern character has. He has all of the important characteristics.

I like Mark Wahlberg, but I don't think he can capture the "pizzaz" necessary for Tony Stark. He is generally a quiet tough guy or a boisterous tough guy - I just can't see him as a brilliant engineer.

[NewYorkDragons80]

But Stark wasn't always a buff guy - they just started drawing him that way relatively recently. He is an inventor/engineer, and although he has always been fit & trim, the armor provides all the muscle.

I think Downey's look, attitude, and acting chops more than make up for the additional bulk the modern character has. He has all of the important characteristics.

I like Mark Wahlberg, but I don't think he can capture the "pizzaz" necessary for Tony Stark. He is generally a quiet tough guy or a boisterous tough guy - I just can't see him as a brilliant engineer.

Yeah you and Mojo are prob right. Watching the trailer he def passes as a corporate exec. But Mark Wahlberg has the range for it, I think. Downey'll do it right, and I like the update on the story.

[Gvac]

Since childhood I've despised the character of Iron Man. I could never get behind the idea of a guy who becomes a hero solely because of the suit he puts on.

I hope this flick is a monumental flop.

Let me know when Marvel wakes up and makes a movie about a truly intriguing character, like Razorback!


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c34/Gvac/ppssm013.jpg?t=1204476337

[TheMojoPin]

Since childhood I've despised the character of Iron Man. I could never get behind the idea of a guy who becomes a hero solely because of the suit he puts on.

I can count on one hand the number of superheroes where weren't heroes "just because of..."

They almost all had some kind of gimmick or power that they were born with or was basically "given" to them. Hell, at least Stark had to make his own. SELF-MADE MAN. He's right there with your kung-fu dudes and Batman, except he's smart enough to make himself less punchable.

[Gvac]

I'm gonna take a few more super soldier serum injections and then I'll deal with you!

[TheMojoPin]

I'm gonna take a few more super soldier serum injections and then I'll deal with you!

And they want to attack people like Bonds and Clemens for juicing...THEY LEARNED IT FROM CAP!!!

[Gritty]

I liked Daredevil. Yes, there was some miscasting, but I thought it was an enjoyable film.

The only thing I truly disliked was the time compression on the relationship between Elektra and Murdock. Too much in love in too short a time. I realize it's only a 2 hour movie so something has to give but I needed more than a montage (MONTAGE!).

Who did you think was miscast?

[lleeder]

Who did you think was miscast?

Ben Affleck

[Sinestro]

The Kingpin

[TheMojoPin]

Elektra.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Jesus fucking Christ, I'm so sick of this Daredevil hate.

Elektra MIGHT have been miscast.

Who the HELL would you have played Matt Murdock? AFFLECK LOOKED LIKE HE WAS PULLED RIGHT OUT OF THE COMIC BOOK.

Give me ONE instance where Affleck PROVED he wasn't write for Daredevil. You can pull a lot of instances with Nic Cage in Ghost Rider, but I think Daredevil just generates unneeded fanboy hate.

I will agree that Sue Storm, Victor Von Doom were miscast. Eric Bana was miscast. Not so much Affleck.

[TheMojoPin]

Evanesence.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Evanesence.

Again, overplayed as a result of the movie. It worked as part of the movie. Sorry.

[TheMojoPin]

Again, overplayed as a result of the movie. It worked as part of the movie. Sorry.

There wasn't a single musical choice in the movie that comes anywhere even close to "working." And one playing of Evanesence is overplaying them.

Hey, I don't think the DD movie was a disaster, but when they screwed up, they screwed up huge. I don't get hung up on changes from the source...I get hung up on shitty filmmaking.

[ToLEEdo]

Hey, I don't think the DD movie was a disaster, but when they screwed up, they screwed up huge. I don't get hung up on changes from the source...I get hung up on shitty filmmaking.

Yeah, I liked the DD story and casting but I just thought the movie overall wasn't fantastic. I liked it, but it didn't stand out to me.

[Gritty]

Elektra.

Really? Who would you have cast from that time-frame ('01 -03)? I thought Garner had the body and moves if not the accent or black hair. Her acting chops are debatable but she did have 'Alias' under her belt so she wasn't a horrible choice.

[TheMojoPin]

Really? Who would you have cast from that time-frame ('01 -03)? I thought Garner had the body and moves if not the accent or black hair. Her acting chops are debatable but she did have 'Alias' under her belt so she wasn't a horrible choice.

I dunno, take your pick. It's easy to make almost anyone look like they can fight...I'd just prefer a decent actress in the role, and I think Garner is as bad as they come.

[Gritty]

The Kingpin

I can't picture anyone but Michael Clarke Duncan in the role. It needed to be someone physically huge and intimidating but still smooth enough to be running in society.

Who would you have cast?

[Gritty]

I dunno, take your pick. It's easy to make almost anyone look like they can fight...I'd just prefer a decent actress in the role, and I think Garner is as bad as they come.


Jennifer Connelly?

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3580/jenniferconnellybiograppd1.jpg

or

Melina Kanakaredes?

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/799/melinakanakaredeskv0.jpg http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/5600/melinah100316lsp5.jpg

[scottinnj]

Here's Iron Man, from Entertainment Weekly:
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/2690/ironmanlny9.jpg

Here's the Link (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20037509,00.html)

Looks like he's riverdancing to me. I'll watch the movie, but Batman Begins sure upped the curve for comic book heroes put in movies. Big Curve.

[scottinnj]

The Kingpin

No way, he was the best thing going for DareDevil. Affleck pulled off being blind, or at least blind enough to have to squint at the lines as he was reading them. Ugh!

[TheMojoPin]

Jennifer Connelly?

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3580/jenniferconnellybiograppd1.jpg

I suppose, though I would have preferred a European actress in the role.

[Sinestro]

I can't picture anyone but Michael Clarke Duncan in the role. It needed to be someone physically huge and intimidating but still smooth enough to be running in society.

Who would you have cast?

I wouldn't have cast a big black man. We all know that the Kingpin was a huge bald dude.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I wouldn't have cast a big black man. We all know that the Kingpin was a huge bald dude.

SO THEN WHO WOULD YOU HAVE CAST?

Duncan was HUGE, Duncan was BALD. Race doesn't make a difference.

[TheMojoPin]

I wouldn't have cast a big black man. We all know that the Kingpin was a huge bald dude.

There aren't really any white actors of the approximate physical stature needed to play the role. Just a bunch of crappy, hammy wrestler-types. I was perfectly happy with Duncan in the role, though I even would have preferred Ving Rhames playing the Kingpin.

[Sinestro]

SO THEN WHO WOULD YOU HAVE CAST?

Duncan was HUGE, Duncan was BALD. Race doesn't make a difference.

Then why was the Fantastic four all white? They could have gone PC with different nationalities. The standard white/black/asian/spanish peeps.

Kane, Kurt Angle, some NFL offensive lineman or some heavy set white dude.

[TheMojoPin]

Then why was the Fantastic four all white? They could have gone PC with different nationalities. The standard white/black/asian/spanish peeps.

Kane, Kurt Angle, some NFL offensive lineman or some heavy set white dude.

It wasn't just the size of the character, nor was it being PC...it was actually getting someone who can act. If you're gonna garbage-cast major roles with wrestlers or athletes, why bother shelling out the cash to cast anyone of name? Just cast the whole thing on the cheap with 'roid-freaks who can barely string together a sentence, much less act.

I love how people are so desperate to use the bullshit term "PC," they call casting a black man in a film as a gangster as being "PC." Oh, the irony is delicioussssssss.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Then why was the Fantastic four all white? They could have gone PC with different nationalities. The standard white/black/asian/spanish peeps.

Kane, Kurt Angle, some NFL offensive lineman or some heavy set white dude.

Because you also need names to sell a movie. And Johnny and Sue are brother and sister. Chiklis was the only option because he was the second best known person outside of Alba.

[Sinestro]

It wasn't just the size of the character, nor was it being PC...it was actually getting someone who can act. If you're gonna garbage-cast major roles with wrestlers or athletes, why bother shelling out the cash to cast anyone of name? Just cast the whole thing on the cheap with 'roid-freaks who can barely string together a sentence, much less act.

I love how people are so desperate to use the bullshit term "PC," they call casting a black man in a film as a gangster as being "PC." Oh, the irony is delicioussssssss.


Hmmmmm, so I guess the Kingpin is the comics musta been black. My bat.

Why isn't Alfred in the Batman movie black? Cuz he wasn't black in the comics!

[Sinestro]

Because you also need names to sell a movie. And Johnny and Sue are brother and sister. Chiklis was the only option because he was the second best known person outside of Alba.

I think Alba is pretty hot to look at, but she can't act. As for the Thing, they should have gotten someone much more bigger. They coulda used Ving Rhymes or Duncan. And Chilklis could have been the Kingpin.

[TheMojoPin]

Hmmmmm, so I guess the Kingpin is the comics musta been black. My bat.

Why isn't Alfred in the Batman movie black? Cuz he wasn't black in the comics!

With a lot of these characters, things like their race is moot. For the more major ones, it can obviously change a lot...Dr. Doom suddenly being black wouldn't make a lot of sense. Kingpin, however, can pretty much be anything. He just needs to be big, ruthless and in charge. He's a cypher of a charachter...he's not defined at all by his race or nationality. In fact, he specifically exists outside of the all the usual criminal deinfitions/stereotypes. Honestly, what changes about any of the major, defining charactertistics of the Kingpn's chaacter if he's black or white? Nothing.

I wouldn't have bought Chiklis at all as the Kingpin because, personally, I don't think he's imposing, nor does he really radiate any sense of cunning. He comes across more as a really short bully or as a creampuff.

But some of the characters you named could easily hae been any race and it wouldn't have changed much. Alfred pretty much needs to be British. What would have been the big deal if he was British and black? If the Fantastic Four are all black or hispanic or Asian or a mixture, what would that really change? And especially, who cares what the Thing would be skin color-wise? He ends up being covered in rock.

Obviously, these changes aren't going to happen, but if they did, it doesn't really change anything significant that actually defines the CHARACTERS. The used who they did as the Kingpin simply because he fit the bill physically and can act. His skin color doesn't change who he is character-wise.

[Sinestro]

With a lot of these characters, things like their race is moot. For the more major ones, it can obviously change a lot...Dr. Doom suddenly being black wouldn't make a lot of sense. Kingpin, however, can pretty much be anything. He just needs to be big, ruthless and in charge. He's a cypher of a charachter...he's not defined at all by his race or nationality. In fact, he specifically exists outside of the all the usual criminal deinfitions/stereotypes. Honestly, what changes about any of the major, defining charactertistics of the Kingpn's chaacter if he's black or white? Nothing.

So then why couldn't Lucy Lawless be the Kingpin??? She fits your description to a tee of the Kingpin. Oh wait she's a woman. But according to your logic, it shouldn't matter.

[TheMojoPin]

So then why couldn't Lucy Lawless be the Kingpin??? She fits your description to a tee of the Kingpin. Oh wait she's a woman. But according to your logic, it shouldn't matter.

Uh, no she doesn't. She may be "big" for a woman, but she's still tiny compared to the role she'd be playing. Besides, I don't equate changing a character's race with something as dramatic as a character's sex. Someone like Mr. Fantastic is written to be an intelligent, aloof male figure. There's really nothing in him that screams that he HAS to be white, whereas so much of him is defined by him being male. Same with the Kingpin, especially if they got into his relationship with his wife and son.

[JohnnyDaytona]

I think this may be the best Marvel movies yet. My wife says she wants to see it after watching the new TV trailer.

[Sinestro]

Uh, no she doesn't. She may be "big" for a woman, but she's still tiny compared to the role she'd be playing. Besides, I don't equate changing a character's race with something as dramatic as a character's sex. Someone like Mr. Fantastic is written to be an intelligent, aloof male figure. There's really nothing in him that screams that he HAS to be white, whereas so much of him is defined by him being male. Same with the Kingpin, especially if they got into his relationship with his wife and son.

Again. Was the Kingpin black in the comics....no. I like how you bring up points of race doesn't matter in the character, but then fall back to their history in the comics as stated about the Kingpin above. If they can alter the character for the movies, they could do so for their background history.

[Gmann]

Alfred pretty much needs to be British. What would have been the big deal if he was British and black?

You KNOW some stupid organization led by Al Sharpton would be all over that saying its racist and shit.

[TheMojoPin]

Again. Was the Kingpin black in the comics....no. I like how you bring up points of race doesn't matter in the character, but then fall back to their history in the comics as stated about the Kingpin above. If they can alter the character for the movies, they could do so for their background history.

Because there are aspects to these characters that their character doesn't hinge on. The Kingpin hinges on him being male, not on him being white. With a lot of these characters, griping about their skin color is ultimately as meaningless as complaining if they don't have right hair color. No, that's not true for all of them, but for many of them, the Kingpin included, he's not defined as a character at all by him being white. He essentially just happens to be white. If they went back and recolored all of the old stories with him and made him black, nothing would change. If you went back and redrew him as a woman, most of his appearances would be nonsensical.

[Sinestro]

Yet Marvel went back and Peter Parker never married Mary Jane Watson.

[cougarjake13]

the only way race would matter is if the backstory hinged on it

[TheMojoPin]

Yet Marvel went back and Peter Parker never married Mary Jane Watson.

I really have no idea how to reply to something this random and unrelated. I suppose if they want back and had Patty Parker marrying Mark James Watson, then it might be relevant.

[Tenbatsuzen]

the only way race would matter is if the backstory hinged on it

This. Luke Cage was a symbol of civil rights back in the day, a literal "Strong Black Man". If Luke Cage was made white, not good.

Harvey Dent was black. There was no problem with that, was there?

[Gmann]

Harvey Dent was played by Billy Dee Williams.

NOBODY has a problem with Billy Dee. I dont care what race you are. He's one smooth ass mofo.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Harvey Dent was played by Billy Dee Williams.

NOBODY has a problem with Billy Dee. I dont care what race you are. He's one smooth ass mofo.

Billy Dee would have made a much, MUCH better two-face than whatever the fuck that performance by Tommy Lee Jones was.

Fuck Joel Schumacher.

I'm looking forward to seeing what Eckhardt does with the role.

[Gmann]

Billy Dee is pimp.

[Sinestro]

This. Luke Cage was a symbol of civil rights back in the day, a literal "Strong Black Man". If Luke Cage was made white, not good.

Harvey Dent was black. There was no problem with that, was there?

I forgot about that. Why does Hollywood do that stuff? Is there a affirmative action quota they got to fill out in movies too?


It's like a couple of years back in the Superman/JL cartoon, people were questioning if Lex Luthorwas black because of the way he was colored which made it ambigious.

[MadMatt]

Because there are aspects to these characters that their character doesn't hinge on. The Kingpin hinges on him being male, not on him being white. With a lot of these characters, griping about their skin color is ultimately as meaningless as complaining if they don't have right hair color. No, that's not true for all of them, but for many of them, the Kingpin included, he's not defined as a character at all by him being white. He essentially just happens to be white. If they went back and recolored all of the old stories with him and made him black, nothing would change. If you went back and redrew him as a woman, most of his appearances would be nonsensical.

Yet Marvel went back and Peter Parker never married Mary Jane Watson.

I really have no idea how to reply to something this random and unrelated. I suppose if they want back and had Patty Parker marrying Mark James Watson, then it might be relevant.

I think Sinestro was trying to illustrate the points of continuity and retonning. It is essentially just as easy to retcon a comic character as it is to change their race, nationality, whatever in a movie.

And I have to disagree in part - a character's race can certainly impact the makeup of the character, if not in overall substance than certainly in the subtleties of the character.

Use the comic vs. movie comparison of The Kingpin that is already on the table. The core of the character is a ruthless businessman and gangster that will do anything to gain, maintain, and increase his power. That is essentially universal. However, the backstory and motivation of the character could be profoundly different if they changed his race. A poor, inner city white child is going to have a different experience than that of a black child.

All things being equal, the end result might be similar but the substance of the character would likely be different.

EDIT: To try to wrap things up; you can get away with changing things like a character's race for a movie adaptation because you are essentially seeing the "surface" of the character. You need the essence but never get deep enough for the subtelties to make a ton of difference. Thanks to retconning you can do the same things to a character in a comic book, but the change is likely to be more far-reaching and impactful.

[Gritty]

Billy Dee is pimp.

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/6322/billydeesignoz6.jpg

Word!

[TheMojoPin]

I think Sinestro was trying to illustrate the points of continuity and retonning. It is essentially just as easy to retcon a comic character as it is to change their race, nationality, whatever in a movie.

And I have to disagree in part - a character's race can certainly impact the makeup of the character, if not in overall substance than certainly in the subtleties of the character.

Use the comic vs. movie comparison of The Kingpin that is already on the table. The core of the character is a ruthless businessman and gangster that will do anything to gain, maintain, and increase his power. That is essentially universal. However, the backstory and motivation of the character could be profoundly different if they changed his race. A poor, inner city white child is going to have a different experience than that of a black child.

All things being equal, the end result might be similar but the substance of the character would likely be different.

It would all depend. Personally, I think most of these characters have very generic backstories that have little influence by their race. Obviously, there are exceptions, but the Kingpin's origin is that he grew up poor and mocked because of his size.

Wilson Fisk began his life as a poor child, ridiculed by his classmates, as he was an unpopular overweight child. When he was repeatedly harassed by bullies, Fisk began training himself in physical combat. Using his newfound strength, he intimidated the bullies into joining his gang, and he started on the road towards being one of the most successful criminals in New York City. His first gang was a small one with only a few thugs. However, he eventually was found by crime lord Don Rigoletto. Fisk became Don Rigoletto's bodyguard and right-hand man. Eventually, Fisk killed Don Rigoletto and took control of his gang, immediately becoming one of the most powerful criminals in the city.

Little would change if he was black. Instead of him being taken in by a Mafia crime boss, he could be taken in by a powerful old school black crime boss a la Nicky Barnes. Once he takes over for Rigotello, he becomes apowerful crime boss seperate from all the "families," black or white or Asian or whatever.

Again, some characters have obvious exceptions to this idea, but a ton of them are so generic that their backstories have little or nothing that "requires" them to be any specific race.

[Doctor Manhattan]

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4471/ironmansmallpic1wg1.jpg
Some new pics here (http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=7012)

I'm pretty excited about this movie, but I know nothing about Ironman outside of he's a guy named Tony Stark who is rich and build's these metal suits to become a super hero. What's the story with the larger Ironman looking guy that Ironman is fighting? picture here (http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/5746/ironmansmallpic8hv7.jpg)

[Furtherman]

What's the story with the larger Ironman looking guy that Ironman is fighting?

That's the Iron Giant.

[TheMojoPin]

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4471/ironmansmallpic1wg1.jpg
Some new pics here (http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=7012)

I'm pretty excited about this movie, but I know nothing about Ironman outside of he's a guy named Tony Stark who is rich and build's these metal suits to become a super hero. What's the story with the larger Ironman looking guy that Ironman is fighting? picture here (http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/5746/ironmansmallpic8hv7.jpg)

Obediah Stane. In the armor, he's the "Iron Monger." Yeah, both names are pretty ridiculous. In the comic, he was a ruthless business competitor to Tony Stark and actually took over Stark's companies for a while through a hostile takeover. He used Stark's files to make his own suit of armor. He tried to then completely destroy Stark, but ended up failing and killed himself. It's one of the better comic runs of Iron Man. In the movie, it looks like they're giving him more of a mentor role with Stark, like they have a longstanding father-son-type relationship.

[Doctor Manhattan]

Thanks. I might even see this opening night!

[cougarjake13]

Thanks. I might even see this opening night!

i most certainly will

[Bulldogcakes]

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Trailer looks pretty cool. I was a fan of the comic as a kid, I always liked the fact that he was more real than most comic superheros. Like the casting choice of Robert Downey, he's fucked up enough to pull off an outsider-ish role like this. Hope there's somewhere near as much plot as there is CGI. They'll get my 12 bucks for this one. Hope it's good.

[IamFogHat]

God am I dumb. All thanks to my meanness.

[RapistWit]

Going to the premier on the 30th :clap:

Not a big fan of comic book movies but it should be a fun experience none the less.

[Doctor Manhattan]

Anyone see it yet?

[IamFogHat]

Holy shit, 94% on Rotten Tomatoes!

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/iron_man/

[Doctor Manhattan]

Wow, and for a comic book movie. 94% is excellent for any film!

[Turtle]

I took my six year old son to see Ironman today. I was expecting a lackluster story line coupled with an overdose of special effects resulting in the predictable superhero template. Self centered billionaire playboy protagonist turned insightful global vigilante and corporate philanthropist fighting an egomaniacal but fatally inept villain, clashing in an over the top battle royal. And that is exactly what Ironman delivered and yet somehow managed to portray Tony Stark (Downey) as a man who despite his enormous wealth is still vulnerable and willing to face his fears. Tony Stark has the rarest possession of the comic book billionaire/genius, a personality, and Downey delivers a movie saving performance. Without question Downey is what makes this movie watch able and his acting outshines the special effects in this movie and he pulls of several good one liners that kept us entertained. The rest of the cast was unremarkable.

[marcpsych]

Robert Downey Jr. as Iron Man is gonna be pickin' up a Golden Statue...geh geh geh!!

[boobieman]

Just saw Iron man. I thought it was pretty good. Downey was very good as well. Some slow parts but overall very good. Like the origin of how he becomes Iron man. Very close to the comic book. Thought the effects were good, not over done or did not make the whole movie.

Just a reminder to everyone, stay till after the credits, every fan boy in the theater was going nuts, if you don't read the comic books you won't get it, but very cool.

Not the best comic book movie but one of the better ones.



SEE AYAYAYAAAAAAAAAA

[underdog]

It's getting 94% on Rotten Tomatoes! That's fucking unbelievable.

[Doctor Z]

Looks like Iron Man is going to STEEL the show! Ehh gih gih gih!

[boobieman]

I read that too. It is not citizen Kane but it is a enjoyable movie. It is over 2 hours and it does not feel like a 2 hour movie.

Go see it if you like comic book movies you will like it, if your a Iron man fan you will love it.

Ok off to bed...first I got to pee...I hope I remember that before I get in bed.


SEEYEEEEEEEEYAAA

[led37zep]

I saw it last night and my official review is "just silly"

Thank you

[Midkiff]

Just saw Iron man. I thought it was pretty good. Downey was very good as well. Some slow parts but overall very good. Like the origin of how he becomes Iron man. Very close to the comic book. Thought the effects were good, not over done or did not make the whole movie.

Just a reminder to everyone, stay till after the credits, every fan boy in the theater was going nuts, if you don't read the comic books you won't get it, but very cool.

Not the best comic book movie but one of the better ones.



SEE AYAYAYAAAAAAAAAA

Can you please disclose what happened, and put it in spoiler tags? Thanks!

[fezident]

Saw it. Loved it.



Paltrow sssssucks though. A true amateur. I've seen better acting at my highschool play.


AFTER-CREDIT SPOLIER INFO:
Samuel L Jackson... Nick Fury of S.H.I.E.L.D
“At the end of the credits, Stark comes home and finds Nick Fury in his living room -staring towards the window. He then turns to tell Stark he’s the not the only superhero in the world. Stark asks who he is, and Fury turns and says he’s “Nick Fury of S.H.I.E.L.D, and I’m here to talk to you about The Avengers Initiative”.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Saw it. Amazing. I don't think I've ever seen a comic book movie that was more true to the source material.

I think this supplants Spider-Man in my Top 5 comic/superhero movies. Only because Downey was THAT GOOD as Stark and Maguire was an awful Peter Parker.

[Doctor Manhattan]

I loved it.

Yes it is "just silly" but it is a comic book movie after all. It's supposed to be fun. RDJ is amazing and he makes the movie. I liked to nod to "War Machine" that Terrence Howard gives us. "Rhodey" will appear as War Machine in the sequel which you know will be made. I am not so sure how an Avengers movie would work, you don't have much time to tell a story so having too many heroes is very hard to do, But X-Men proved that it is possible, even if you really only focus on a handful of them

[Tenbatsuzen]

I loved it.

Yes it is "just silly" but it is a comic book movie after all. It's supposed to be fun. RDJ is amazing and he makes the movie. I liked to nod to "War Machine" that Terrence Howard gives us. "Rhodey" will appear as War Machine in the sequel which you know will be made. I am not so sure how an Avengers movie would work, you don't have much time to tell a story so having too many heroes is very hard to do, But X-Men proved that it is possible, even if you really only focus on a handful of them

Technically...

You can do Avengers if they go the Ultimates route, which it looks like Favreau is trying to do a combination of Ultimates and 616 here, (re: Jackson as Fury and Stark coming out as Iron Man at the Press Conference. Norton as the Hulk, Grace Park as Janet Van Dyne, SLJ as Nick Fury... not sure who'd you cast as Cap and/or Pym.

[Fallon]

I just got back from it with my nephew and we both loved it. Finally a superhero movie that doesn't have a love story take up too much of it.

Picked up the game for the 360 on the way home, nephew is digging it.

[INFOSTUD]

It was absolutely amazing!!!. Robert Downey, Jr. was brilliant as Tony Stark.

[Badinia]

Saw it today, it was SUPER AWESOME and super fun. I loved the ridiculous imaginary rich guy stuff, Tony's drunken metrosexual engineer character, and the beautiful design of the fightin' robot suits.

It was fun when the "regular people" left after the credits and the "internet dork-nerds" stayed on for the hilarious monk's reward.

Happened to see that we had shared the viewing with several employees of Dark Horse Comics, including Paul Guinan of Hearbreakers, whose character Boilerplate (http://www.bigredhair.com/boilerplate/) is a fightin' robot himself.

[Gvac]

I'm afraid to see it. I don't think anything can be as cool as the 1960's cartoon.

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[TheMojoPin]

My only gripe? They fuckin' cut out Ghostface's cameo!!! BOOOOOOOOOOO. The man is singlehandedly responsible for giving Iron Man and Tony Stark a mountain of badass street cred. FOR SHAME, FAVREAU.

[angrymissy]

I took my six year old son to see Ironman today.

So did everyone else in our theater :thumbdown:

"Why is he doing that"
"How can he fly?"
"Is he going to die?"
"Where is he going?"
"How does that work?"
"Why did he do that?"
"I have to go to the bathroom"

[Bob Impact]

So did everyone else in our theater :thumbdown:

"Why is he doing that"
"How can he fly?"
"Is he going to die?"
"Where is he going?"
"How does that work?"
"Why did he do that?"
"I have to go to the bathroom"

and you're shocked that children were at a comic book movie?

[angrymissy]

and you're shocked that children were at a comic book movie?

Shocked that the parents didn't shut the kid up. Seriously, it was every 5 minutes throughout the movie and not in a whisper.

Babies too. Someone had a crying infant.

[Sinestro]

It was fun when the "regular people" left after the credits and the "internet dork-nerds" stayed on for the hilarious monk's reward.


Ugh!! I missed it. Is it going to be up on youtube?

[EddieMoscone]

I really liked this flick. Robert Downey Jr is great...I could see the movie failing with just about any other actor in the role. As someone said earlier, the movie moved at a good pace and did not feel like a 2 hour+ movie.

And the comic fans did go nuts during the bonus scene (about 75% of the theatre stayed until after the credits to see it).

I'm not a comic book guy, but I knew enough about the stories to catch on the the little hints they dropped here and there (re:Terrence Howard).

[Tall_James]

So did everyone else in our theater :thumbdown:

"Why is he doing that"
"How can he fly?"
"Is he going to die?"
"Where is he going?"
"How does that work?"
"Why did he do that?"
"I have to go to the bathroom"

Did you go to an early showing? If so, that is to be expected.

However, the crying infant is beyond the pale. That parent needs to have Social Services pay a surprise visit because anyone who is stupid enough to bring an infant to a movie theatre is probably doing worse things at home.

[Bob Impact]

Shocked that the parents didn't shut the kid up. Seriously, it was every 5 minutes throughout the movie and not in a whisper.

Babies too. Someone had a crying infant.

Yeah, crying infant is obnoxious.

[cougarjake13]

loved the movie

i heard nothing about the after credits thing and usually i stay til the end of credits but i had to pee bad
and it didnt feel like a 2 hr movie

[cougarjake13]

youtube clip of after credits of iron man

spolier alert !!!!!!!!!!!!!































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[Tenbatsuzen]

Liz and I saw a matinee, and we had the talking kid in there, but he shut up by the time the Mark I armor made it's debut. I think he was confused by the character development, and i can accept that.

[PD]

I'm afraid to see it. I don't think anything can be as cool as the 1960's cartoon.

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that absolutely ruled in its day.
Marvel superheroes- one day iron man, one hulk, one sub mariner, one captn america

[Tenbatsuzen]

BTW, PD, next time, let me know when you post my quotes to FTBFBA. I only find out about them when you do photoshop threads.

[Reephdweller]

We just got back from seeing it. I loved it, I didn't stick around for the teaser at the end but I just saw it above, I always loved Iron Man and S.H.I.E.L.D and this did not disappoint.

I also loved seeing a teaser trailer for The Spirit movie (probably my favorite comic book of all time), and the new Batman movie looks awesome.

[TheMojoPin]

I have very low expectations for the Spirit film since it's an original story by Frank Miller, and he hasn't written anything not horrible in over a decade, plus his track record for writing original screenplays (not adaptations of his own work) is horrifying. Such a shame to do this to such a classic character. Will Eisner deserves better.

[cougarjake13]

i didnt get a spirit or batman trailer

i got the adam sandler movie

hulk movie

indiana jones

and m night shamalamadingdongs new movie

[PD]

BTW, PD, next time, let me know when you post my quotes to FTBFBA. I only find out about them when you do photoshop threads.

it's pretty rare I quote you, but I enjoyed that one

:smile:

I'll prolly quote this one too though.

[Tenbatsuzen]

it's pretty rare I quote you, but I enjoyed that one

:smile:

I'll prolly quote this one too though.

Yeah, I just don't exactly get the genesis of the thread, because my intention of the original quote is kinda gonna come true by the end of next year.

[Reephdweller]

i didnt get a spirit or batman trailer

i got the adam sandler movie

hulk movie

indiana jones

and m night shamalamadingdongs new movie


These were the trailers I got
the Adam Sandler Zohan crap movie...
Indiana Jones (not too impressed)
The Spirit
The Dark Knight, looks awesome
Mike Meyers awful indian movie...amazing as others have said both this and Adam Sandlers movies look terrible yet people were yucking it up like mad in the audience. I don't get it.

[Reephdweller]

I have very low expectations for the Spirit film since it's an original story by Frank Miller, and he hasn't written anything not horrible in over a decade, plus his track record for writing original screenplays (not adaptations of his own work) is horrifying. Such a shame to do this to such a classic character. Will Eisner deserves better.

You'll probably be right, but I hope he gives it the justice and care it deserves.

[Justice4all]

Saw it today.
Robert Downy was awsome. He made this film.
Jon Favreau or however you spell it did a pretty good job on the story.
I have to admit Gweneth did look like she forced herself to get thru every scene though.



I look forward to the sequel

[badorties]

I look forward to the sequel


<B>Marvel plans to launch its 2010 film slate with the release of the sequel, Iron Man 2, on April 30, 2010, followed by the launch of Thor on June 4, 2010. Additionally, Marvel is planting its feature film stakes for summer 2011 with an Avengers-themed summer – a two-picture project which will debut on May 6, 2011 with The First Avenger: Captain America (working title), followed by The Avengers in July 2011.</B> (http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/080505/20080505005656.html?.v=1)

[SoCalScott72]

I think it was a perfect big screen translation of Iron Man. I wonder if they can pull off the Avengers like the teaser after the credits suggested.

+ Sam Jackson as Nick Fury! AWESOME.

[Furtherman]

Great movie. A lot of fun. Again, I don't know shit about the comic, but I enjoyed it for what it was.

I think that the biggest concern for this film is that Jon Favreau<a href="http://www.ronfez.net/name/nm0269463/"></a>&nbsp;is directing it. The guy is AWFUL! I'd rather see Paul O direct this flick.

I think Favreau did an excellent job. Although his bit part as Stark's driver was distracting due to the awful hairpiece.

My only gripe? They fuckin' cut out Ghostface's cameo!!! BOOOOOOOOOOO. The man is singlehandedly responsible for giving Iron Man and Tony Stark a mountain of badass street cred. FOR SHAME, FAVREAU.

Was there a cameo filmed?

I have to admit Gweneth did look like she forced herself to get thru every scene though.

That's because she was in those high heels and had that short step walk the entire time! The place is gonna blow and she's clickclickclickclick with the heels trying to run. Laughable. But overall, she didn't take anything away from the movie.

[CruelCircus]

+ Sam Jackson as Nick Fury! AWESOME.

Bah!

No one but Hasselhoff can pull off Nick Fury for me!
:furious:


http://a975.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/63/m_de9b9c7694883c8efd5110bcfafced46.jpg

[MadMatt]

Bah!

No one but Hasselhoff can pull off Nick Fury for me!
:furious:


Now that is just plain funny! And a little sad, since that means somebody other than me saw that travesty too. :clap:

I saw Iron Man yesterday and liked it a lot. It was actually a little darker and more serious than I expected, which is good IMO.

I would also say it is probably the best Marvel film adaptation I have seen.

[Doctor Manhattan]

I would also say it is probably the best Marvel film adaptation I have seen.

I agree 1000%

[JustJon]

Now that is just plain funny! And a little sad, since that means somebody other than me saw that travesty too. :clap:

I saw Iron Man yesterday and liked it a lot. It was actually a little darker and more serious than I expected, which is good IMO.

I would also say it is probably the best Marvel film adaptation I have seen.

I think they only Marvel movies that give it a run are X-Men and Spider-Man.

[cougarjake13]

iron man sequel plot hints


http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008/06/iron-mans-repul.html

[King Imp]

iron man sequel plot hints


http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008/06/iron-mans-repul.html


So, who would you cast as Mandarin? Would you go well known or a newcomer? I'm trying to think of all the big-time Asian players in Hollywood right now and I'm only coming up with Chow Yun Fat, Jet Li, and Ken Watanabe. No, I didn't forget Jackie Chan, but let's be serious here.

Of those three, I'd have to go with Ken Watanabe.

[Tall_James]

I'd have to go with Ken Watanabe.

I'd rather see Gedde Watanabe.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h57/sealzm/Myspace%20stuff/LongDuckDong.jpg

[TheMojoPin]

So, who would you cast as Mandarin? Would you go well known or a newcomer? I'm trying to think of all the big-time Asian players in Hollywood right now and I'm only coming up with Chow Yun Fat, Jet Li, and Ken Watanabe. No, I didn't forget Jackie Chan, but let's be serious here.

Of those three, I'd have to go with Ken Watanabe.

The Mandarin is Chinese. I mean, his name is "the Mandarin," for God's sake.

Ken Watanabe is Japanese. And yes, Chinese people and Japanese people look noticeably different.

[King Imp]

The Mandarin is Chinese. I mean, his name is "the Mandarin," for God's sake.

Ken Watanabe is Japanese. And yes, Chinese people and Japanese people look noticeably different.


Considering at one point in time they had John Wayne play Genghis Khan, I don't really think Hollywood cares that much about precision.

[TheMojoPin]

Considering at one point in time they had John Wayne play Genghis Khan, I don't really think Hollywood cares that much about precision.

That flick was considered a joke even back then. Plus it killed him.

[King Imp]

That flick was considered a joke even back then. Plus it killed him.


Joke or not, that's not the point. The average American probably wouldn't know Chinese from Japanese so I highly doubt they will narrow their search for The Mandarin to a Chinese actor.

But, if you want to be technical about it, I would have absolutely no problem with Chow Yun Fat playing the part.

[Chigworthy]

Mena Suvari could play Mandarin or whatever it's called.

[TheMojoPin]

Joke or not, that's not the point. The average American probably wouldn't know Chinese from Japanese so I highly doubt they will narrow their search for The Mandarin to a Chinese actor.

But, if you want to be technical about it, I would have absolutely no problem with Chow Yun Fat playing the part.

He's basically completely defined as a character in his being Chinese. Given how people pour over these films and positive buzz helps them so much, I doubt they'll just shrug i off and think, "we'll just get any Asian for the role."

[King Imp]

He's basically completely defined as a character in his being Chinese. Given how people pour over these films and positive buzz helps them so much, I doubt they'll just shrug i off and think, "we'll just get any Asian for the role."

That's fine, so then I revert to my initial question. Who would you choose to play the part?

[TheMojoPin]

That's fine, so then I revert to my initial question. Who would you choose to play the part?

Heh, nobody...I actually think he's a shitty character. That's the pitfall of starting an Iron Man franchise: his villains mostly suck.

[King Imp]

Heh, nobody...I actually think he's a shitty character. That's the pitfall of starting an Iron Man franchise: his villains mostly suck.

I just looked at the list of Iron Man's enemies. Yeah, that is pretty bad.

[TooLowBrow]

why dont they just make up new villains and storylines for the movies? it not like 99% of the audience would even know, or care.

[cougarjake13]

why dont they just make up new villains and storylines for the movies? it not like 99% of the audience would even know, or care.


wouldnt bother me at all

[TheMojoPin]

why dont they just make up new villains and storylines for the movies? it not like 99% of the audience would even know, or care.

Works for me.

[NickyL0885]

why dont they just make up new villains and storylines for the movies? it not like 99% of the audience would even know, or care.

Then you piss off the nerds. "NOOOO!!! THAT WAS NOT IN THE COMIC BOOK!!! IM OUTRAGED!!!"

[ScottFromGA]

Then you piss off the nerds. "NOOOO!!! THAT WAS NOT IN THE COMIC BOOK!!! IM OUTRAGED!!!"

exactly.


I added a lot to this thread, didn't I? :king:

[GreatAmericanZero]

ok..im ultimate "late to the pary" guy, but I just saw Iron Man today (at the really cheap theater)

I loved this movie. I think its better than "The Dark Knight". I think, for the film "The Dark Knight" was it had a lot of flaws. I think for the film "Iron Man" was, it was pretty much flawless. It was Robert Downey Jr's film and he couldn't be better. It was a great movie.

Can't say enough good things about this one..for me, film of the summer

[KingGeno]

Iron Man 2 news:

Don Cheadle joins 'Iron Man 2', replaces Terrance Howard (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3ibc7ed676383467c2ef5b0b84b924a87b)

Don Cheadle is stepping in to replace Terrence Howard in "Iron Man 2," Marvel Studios' sequel to its summer blockbuster.

In the movie, Howard played Jim Rhodes, Tony Stark/Iron Man's best friend and future armor-clad hero War Machine. One scene featured Howard looking at a silver suit of armor and saying "Next time," a line that caused great delight for fans.

But there will be no next time for Howard.

Marvel had no comment, but sources close to the deal said negotiations with Howard fell through over financial differences, among other reasons. Marvel, which had wanted to work with Cheadle, then decided to take the role in another direction and approached the actor, who is shooting Antoine Fuqua's "Brooklyn's Finest" with Richard Gere and Ethan Hawke.

Rhodes is expected to play a larger part in the sequel, which is rumored to go beyond high-tech villains. Justin Theroux is writing the screenplay.

Jon Favreau is returning as director, and Robert Downey Jr. is expected back as billionaire industrialist Stark/Iron Man. Gwyneth Paltrow also is expected to be back as Stark's assistant, Pepper Potts.

Cheadle, repped by UTA, most recently starred in "Traitor," a thriller on which he was also a producer. He will next be seen in DreamWorks' "Hotel for Dogs."

I hate changes of characters mid-series....................

[Slumbag]

Iron Man 2 news:

Don Cheadle joins 'Iron Man 2', replaces Terrance Howard (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3ibc7ed676383467c2ef5b0b84b924a87b)



I hate changes of characters mid-series....................


Normally I'm the exact same way.


But I fucking HATED Terrence Howard in that movie. Really, just in general.
Don Cheadle........hell yeah.

[KingGeno]

I like knowing that we will be seeing War Machine. Can't wait to see the helmet close on Cheadle's face. He is a great actor. Not knocking on Terrence Howard, but he just didn't feel right and complete. Maybe a little to "light in the loafers" or something.

[ScottFromGA]

Terrance Howard - Bad

Don Cheadle - Good


I added a lot to this thread again, huh? :king:

[TheMojoPin]

I really like Howard as an actor, but he definitely seemed "off" to me in the film, like he was just kind of coasting through it. Cheadle is a great addition.

[cougarjake13]

so war machine design is basically the same as iron mans ??

[KingGeno]

so war machine design is basically the same as iron mans ??

Take the Mark II suit (silver suit) from the first movie, and add tons of interchangeable weaponry:

Actual War Machine toy released from Marvel for the first movie:
http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/images/ironman-warmachine01.jpg

Art:
http://jjinbeat.com/Cap/StarSpangledSite/Rhodey-WarMachine-Initiative.jpg
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff304/Stillmatic130/300px-WarMachine1.jpg
http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/images/warmachine-comic.jpg

Less thinky, more ka-blooey.

[cougarjake13]

no dont get me wrong cause that looks badass but wouldnt that cause confusion and almost have 2 main heroes

it'd be like batman having a second batman instead of robin

[biozombie]

I hope they don't turn it into some fast action white guy/black guy buddy flick since neither Nick Nolte nor Eddie Murphy are in it. As long as Robert Downey Jr is in it, I'll check it out, but I didn't dig the first movie as much watching it at home as I did at the movies.

[KingGeno]

I am prob wreckign things fr peops, but I'm drunk.

He takes over for Tony Stark cuz Tony Stark drinks too much, but the suit is tuned for Tony Stark. Messes with the mind, YO!. Causes Don Cheadle to go nuts/haywire and become a world threat. Poopy.

[armymad]

Terrance Howard - Bad

Don Cheadle - Good


I added a lot to this thread again, huh? :king:



i think it the other way around , they should just be the leave it as it was

[KingGeno]

Official War Machine art:

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/warmachinetop.jpghttp://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/warmachine1.jpg

Kinda tough seeing Don Cheadle in there.

[Don Stugots]

Its a suit of armor, you are not supposed to see don cheadle in there.

[Doctor Manhattan]

Official War Machine art:...Kinda tough seeing Don Cheadle in there.

It's not easy to see Terrance Howard in there either. But it looks sweet!

[TheMojoPin]

Yet somehow he can see midget, middleaged, ex-junkie Robert Downey, jr. in his. Weird.

[Knowledged_one]

Yet somehow he can see midget, middleaged, ex-junkie Robert Downey, jr. in his. Weird.

exjunkies doesnt make you a bad person

One is president now
and one could become president

so if being an ex-junkie is good enough for president its good enough for iron man

[KingGeno]

Chill. Chill. Chill. I didn't type right. I KNOW it is a suit. I know people are real. :down:

I meant, we'll have to see how Cheadle turns out. Terrence Howard was a weak link in the first.

[Doctor Manhattan]

Yet somehow he can see midget, middleaged, ex-junkie Robert Downey, jr. in his. Weird.

Because they showed him making it and wearing various parts of it:

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/9990/ironman2008020103035938vj7.jpg

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/8318/downeyironman0114aw1.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1369/2301131589fd6eaf9a33osl2.jpg

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/9358/robertdowneyjrironmanmoph3.jpg

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/724/iron20manrz8.jpg

[booster11373]

I hated TH's southerny gay voice always have always will I'm glad he is gone

[disneyspy]

Tim Horton may be from southern canada but he's still around

[AnnoyedGrunt]

Tim Horton may be from southern canada but he's still around

Actually, he died in 1974 after crashing his car while severely fucked up.

[Don Stugots]

it might be hard to see him because he is black? i don't get it.

[TheMojoPin]

Because they showed him making it and wearing various parts of it:

So? He's still a middleaged midget. If on can "see" him playing Stark/Iron Man, I don't see why one can't see Cheadle playing War Machine.

[disneyspy]

whens ironman2 comin out?

[Don Stugots]

whens ironman2 comin out?

he is coming out of the closet soon i think.

[disneyspy]

he is coming out of the closet soon i think.

ha!i saw that movie where he sucked cock for coke,doesnt make him a bad person,just remembered hearin that 2 was in the works

[biozombie]

ha!i saw that movie where he sucked cock for coke,doesnt make him a bad person,just remembered hearin that 2 was in the works

2010, according to IMDB.

[booster11373]

I hated TH's southerny gay voice always have always will I'm glad he is gone

Better yet he sounds like Fenster from The Usual Suspects