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ChimneyFish

09-27-2006, 01:00 PM

I'll be making my first run this year.My father made some Pinot Noir last year, and it turned out very good.I'm looking for something a little less dry, but I'm not sure what that would be. Any help would much appreciated.

Don Stugots

09-27-2006, 01:11 PM

make it extra sweet from a late harvest.  makes for some great sangria.  good luck with it. 

ChimneyFish

09-27-2006, 01:15 PM

I forgot you make your own sangria. How exactly do you go about that????(I know it has something to do with fruit/juices)The problem is, I'm splitting this with my uncle, so we're just doing straight wine.

Don Stugots

09-27-2006, 01:22 PM

ChimneyFish wrote: I forgot you make your own sangria. How exactly do you go about that????(I know it has something to do with fruit/juices)The problem is, I'm splitting this with my uncle, so we're just doing straight wine.i have a secret family recipe.  i would love to have you taste it and get your opinion.  i will know that you like it when you start to lick the inside of your glass like most people do after they drink a few.

ShelleBink

09-27-2006, 01:23 PM

This is a really weird thread considering I bought my first bottle of wine today ((granted, its probably shit, but it made me happy)).  Is there any site that has ratings on commercial wine?  I want to know if what I bought is any good ((on a college student budget, anything's good))

Don Stugots

09-27-2006, 01:28 PM

if its maddog 20/20 then its ok.  seriously check out wine connoisseur.  i have only heard good things about it.  you can also ask at the store you bought it at or even go to wine tastings and ask questions.  NYU have a glass on it which is interesting. 

Hottub

09-27-2006, 01:28 PM

so we're just doing straight wine. Then you won't be making sangria.    Fag drink!

suggums

09-27-2006, 02:17 PM

ShelleBink wrote:  I want to know if what I bought is any good ((on a college student budget, anything's good))   well how does it taste?  good or bad?

Don Stugots

09-27-2006, 02:35 PM

Hottub wrote:  so we're just doing straight wine.   Then you won't be making sangria.    Fag drink!hot tub, drink my sangria and see if its a fag drink. Straight wine?  i thought you were going to make homosexual wine.  nevermind then.

Bulldogcakes

09-27-2006, 02:52 PM

STUGOTS1 wrote:  NYU have a glass on it which is interesting.  <blockquote />  Did you mean Glass, class or both?

Don Stugots

09-27-2006, 02:54 PM

Bulldogcakes wrote:   STUGOTS1 wrote:  NYU have a glass on it which is interesting.    Did you mean Glass, class or both? both.  i sat in on the class once, pretty interesting.  another word of advise is to go to a nursey where they sell the grapes for the wine.  they can always point things out to you.

Bulldogcakes

09-27-2006, 02:58 PM

Please dont tell me you squash the grapes barefoot in your backyard.    If you do, please tell me you wash your feet first.     or at least take off your socks.      or checked your shoes for dogshit

Don Stugots

09-27-2006, 03:01 PM

Bulldogcakes wrote: Please dont tell me you squash the grapes barefoot in your backyard. I used to do it for my gandfather.    If you do, please tell me you wash your feet first.  not always  or at least take off your socks.   not always  or checked your shoes for dogshit ummmm....................no comment

PapaBear

09-27-2006, 03:02 PM

ShelleBink

09-27-2006, 03:15 PM

suggums wrote: ShelleBink wrote: I want to know if what I bought is any good ((on a college student budget, anything's good)) well how does it taste? good or bad?   Not bad.  Only inital problem was finding out there is no bottle opener at the apartment.  Luckily, there's one really nice neighbor dude who always tells us if we need anything to head over.  Well, we got a bottle opener to keep, and some more wine.  Can't go wrong, and it made my f'n night :o)

Bulldogcakes

09-27-2006, 03:38 PM

STUGOTS1 wrote:I used to do it for my gandfather.   There's a mod quote if I ever saw one.

FUNKMAN

09-27-2006, 04:01 PM

life's a cabernet my friend...

Jujubees2

09-27-2006, 04:23 PM

ShelleBink wrote: This is a really weird thread considering I bought my first bottle of wine today ((granted, its probably shit, but it made me happy)).  Is there any site that has ratings on commercial wine?  I want to know if what I bought is any good ((on a college student budget, anything's good)) Simple rule of thumb:Screw Top - No GoodCork - Good

fohat

09-27-2006, 04:29 PM

FUNKMAN wrote: life's a cabernet my friend...  <img width="96" height="140" border="0" src="http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l246/fohat/43m.jpg" alt="caberet" title="caberet" />  I've never seen it... 

This message was edited by fohat on 9-27-06 @ 8:30 PM

ShelleBink

09-27-2006, 04:33 PM

fohat

09-27-2006, 04:34 PM

ShelleBink wrote: Jujubees2 wrote: ShelleBink wrote: This is a really weird thread considering I bought my first bottle of wine today ((granted, its probably shit, but it made me happy)). Is there any site that has ratings on commercial wine? I want to know if what I bought is any good ((on a college student budget, anything's good)) Simple rule of thumb:Screw Top - No GoodCork - Good I got the wine, all I need is some ass now.   I'm only 3 or 4 hundred miles away...

grlNIN

09-27-2006, 04:39 PM

I started drinking wine alot during Spring Break. Since i've gotten back i'd say 90% of what i order when i go out now is either Shiraz or Sauvignon. Probably the best buzz you can get comes from a good wine. Too bad the hangover is quite possibly the worst i've ever experienced.You can also be on any kind of budget and still find a wine that is good enough to drink.

suggums

09-27-2006, 04:46 PM

Jujubees2 wrote: ShelleBink wrote: This is a really weird thread considering I bought my first bottle of wine today ((granted, its probably shit, but it made me happy)). Is there any site that has ratings on commercial wine? I want to know if what I bought is any good ((on a college student budget, anything's good)) Simple rule of thumb:Screw Top - No GoodCork - Good   i cant agree with this.  a lot of the smaller vineyards are switching to screw tops because it's cheaper.  sure the presentation isnt the same, and you definitely would want to suction-seal it (if its red) if you're not gonna finish the bottle in one sitting, but ive had plenty of screw tops that are just as good.  plus opening it couldnt be easier

spoon

09-27-2006, 09:08 PM

I totally agree with Suggs here.  In Ac last weekend we had two bottles over 100 bucks that were screw tops or those new corkless plugs and they were awesome.  My hockey team got sloshed on wine one night (we won the tourney down there and money which explains the wine), and beer the other night.  Diversity baby!

ChimneyFish

10-02-2006, 08:52 AM

Well, found out after I started the thread that the juice has already been ordered. I'll be doing a Ruby Cabernet this season.I guess we could keep this thread open for anyone's recommendations on wine. I'll be trying different kinds throughout the year, so if anyone has any suggestions, feel free.

FUNKMAN

10-02-2006, 10:48 AM

i buy no wine before it's time

angrymissy

10-02-2006, 10:53 AM

Wine hangovers are horrific.  I downed two bottles of wine the night before my wedding, big mistake.  When I rolled into the salon the next morning, they were staring at me in horror I was so hungover (This is after vomiting profusely in the parking lot).I love to drink wine, get it a few times a week with dinner, usually White Zinfandel or Pinot Grigio.  It is a "relaxed" drunk, but I find a few hours later I feel horribly dehydrated and thirsty, it will wake me up in the middle of the night sometimes.I just buy what tastes good to me, I could care less what kind of rating it has in Wine Enthusiast grlNIN wrote: I started drinking wine alot during Spring Break. Since i've gotten back i'd say 90% of what i order when i go out now is either Shiraz or Sauvignon. Probably the best buzz you can get comes from a good wine. Too bad the hangover is quite possibly the worst i've ever experienced.You can also be on any kind of budget and still find a wine that is good enough to drink.

FUNKMAN

10-02-2006, 02:58 PM

angrymissy wrote: Wine hangovers are horrific.  I downed two bottles of wine the night before my wedding, big mistake.  When I rolled into the salon the next morning, they were staring at me in horror I was so hungover (This is after vomiting profusely in the parking lot).I love to drink wine, get it a few times a week with dinner, usually White Zinfandel or Pinot Grigio.  It is a "relaxed" drunk, but I find a few hours later I feel horribly dehydrated and thirsty, it will wake me up in the middle of the night sometimes.I just buy what tastes good to me, I could care less what kind of rating it has in Wine Enthusiast grlNIN wrote: I started drinking wine alot during Spring Break. Since i've gotten back i'd say 90% of what i order when i go out now is either Shiraz or Sauvignon. Probably the best buzz you can get comes from a good wine. Too bad the hangover is quite possibly the worst i've ever experienced.You can also be on any kind of budget and still find a wine that is good enough to drink.   yeah what'w with the wine and some of the worst headaches?  do the sulphites have alot to do with it?

FUNKMAN

10-02-2006, 03:01 PM

i should look before i write: pretty good articleThe myth is NOT that some people suffer from headaches when they <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/replytotopic.cfm/Forum/52/Topic/52627/currentpage/#" target="_blank">drink</a> red wine, because that is factual. What is incorrect is that the headaches are caused by the sulfites in red wine. Modern evidence just does not support that conclusion. One of the leading articles on this issue appeared in the New York Times in July of 2002, and it is rare one finds a later discussion about headaches and red wines without mentioning this concise and well written Times piece. We borrow from it from time to time in this article, but we have also gone to the primary sources cited by the Times, as well as reviewed other research and opinions. Studies show that when people experience headaches from red wine, they usually feel queasy as well. These symptoms are part of a recognized, if not well understood, medical syndrome called "Red Wine Headache" (or simply "RWH"). While there seems to be no doubt the syndrome exists, definitive causes of it are as varied as the cure for hiccups. The most popular reason advanced for these red wine headaches is the presence of sulfites in the wine, but this theory has been pretty well debunked in recent times. Over 20 years ago the <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/replytotopic.cfm/Forum/52/Topic/52627/currentpage/#" target="_blank">Food</a> and Drug Administration determined that a little less than 1% of the population is allergic to sulfites, meaning they lack the digestive enzyme which would allow the processing of sulfites commonly found in foods like <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/replytotopic.cfm/Forum/52/Topic/52627/currentpage/#" target="_blank">lunch</a> <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/replytotopic.cfm/Forum/52/Topic/52627/currentpage/#" target="_blank">meat</a>, sausage, and cheese. Therefore, the FDA required that wines containing certain levels of this compound say so by placing the phrase "contains sulfites" on the label. This information has long been translated by some into a warning that people who get headaches from red wine should stay away BECAUSE OF the sulfites. That is incorrect. The language is intended only as a warning to that small minority who are in fact allergic to sulfites. What evidence suggests that something other than the sulfites in red wine causes headaches? Primarily the fact that many <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/replytotopic.cfm/Forum/52/Topic/52627/currentpage/#" target="_blank">white wines</a> contain more sulfites than red wines, yet do not cause headaches. Sweeter whites need sulfur (sulfites) to keep their residual sugars from fermenting, and for the dry whites, many winemakers add SO2 (sulfur dioxide, which when in solution forms "sulfites") because the whites need more protection from oxygen than the reds, and SO2 acts as an antioxidant. Thus, in most cases white wines have more sulfites than do reds. Dr. Fred Freitag, of the Diamond Headache Clinic in Chicago, concluded that, "Sulfites can cause an allergic reaction, but they give headaches only to asthmatics. The more common reaction to sulfites is a breathing problem." So if sulfites are not the culprit, what is? Some believe the etiology of the headaches to be tannins, the compounds in wine that come from the skin and seeds. The Harvard Health Letter notes several well-controlled experiments showing that tannins in the blood cause the release of the enzyme serotonin, which in high levels can cause headaches in people who already suffer from migraines. The problem is self evident. This theory does not cover the reason that people who do not suffer from migraines still get RWH. Additionally, other common foods, such as soy, tea, and chocolate contain tannins, and reported headaches f

trackstand

10-02-2006, 03:37 PM

I'll be making my first run this year.My father made some Pinot Noir last year, and it turned out very good.I'm looking for something a little less dry, but I'm not sure what that would be. Any help would much appreciated.Answer is:Cusumano [producer]Benuara [Nero d'avola/ Syrah grapes]2004From Sicily.If you find this let me know. OOOOHHH Baby! Good stuff.

spoon

10-02-2006, 07:44 PM

Great article Funk.I found this part really interesting: "The Harvard Health Letter notes several well-controlled experiments showing that tannins in the blood cause the release of the enzyme serotonin, which in high levels can cause headaches in people who already suffer from migraines. The problem is self evident. This theory does not cover the reason that people who do not suffer from migraines still get RWH. Additionally, other common foods, such as soy, tea, and chocolate contain tannins, and reported headaches from these foods are rare."Now keep in mind there are many different serotonin receptors involved in migraine and one cannot dismiss this angle easily.  I never thought of it, as it's a very interesting angle.

ChimneyFish

10-03-2006, 07:58 AM

I've heard others talk about "RWH", but I can't say I've ever experienced one.    Well, started the Ruby Cabernet yesterday.Tasted a tiny bit of the juice, and it seems like this is going to turn out well. A lot sweeter than the Pinot.I think I may do a white or a rose next year. Or maybe make my own blend.

Jennitalia

10-03-2006, 08:14 AM

Normally, if I drink a lot of wine, I end up getting violently ill the next day. I signed my mom up for a 6 month membership at wine.com. They sent her 2 different "red" wines a month. They were fantastic! We're going to join after I finish making my tuition payments next month.Also, my ex's family (italian) used to make homemade wine in their basement, and I helped a couple of years. Fuckin' Awesome stuff! It was a lot of fun to press the wine in these old-fashioned typed barrels. We bottled some Rose, and it was just beautiful. One li'l glass would make you feel just so happy, and there was absolutely NO hangover the next day.

FUNKMAN

10-03-2006, 08:27 AM

Jennitalia wrote: Normally, if I drink a lot of wine, I end up getting violently ill the next day. I signed my mom up for a 6 month membership at wine.com. They sent her 2 different "red" wines a month. They were fantastic! We're going to join after I finish making my tuition payments next month.Also, my ex's family (italian) used to make homemade wine in their basement, and I helped a couple of years. Fuckin' Awesome stuff! It was a lot of fun to press the wine in these old-fashioned typed barrels. We bottled some Rose, and it was just beautiful. One li'l glass would make you feel just so happy, and there was absolutely NO hangover the next day. Jenn,You just reminded me of when i was a kid and helped make wine for my grandfather. We'd go buy the cases of grape(bees everywhere) and he had about 8 wooden barrels in the basement. We had a grinder that sat on top of the barrel and the grandkids would do the grinding. Too bad i was a bit too young to enjoy the wine, it tasted really strong. I recently had a glass of homemade wine at a local pizzeria/restaurant that the owner had brought in and it was delicious and smooth...Thanks,Funk

ChimneyFish

10-03-2006, 01:11 PM

Jennitalia wrote: One li'l glass would make you feel just so happy, and there was absolutely NO hangover the next day. That's the best part. One tall glass, and feeling nice.And we just get the juice(all the way from Californee), but I could definitely see how crushing the grapes would be fun.

Don Stugots

10-03-2006, 01:14 PM

ChimneyFish wrote: Jennitalia wrote: One li'l glass would make you feel just so happy, and there was absolutely NO hangover the next day. That's the best part. One tall glass, and feeling nice.And we just get the juice(all the way from Californee), but I could definitely see how crushing the grapes would be fun.it is, was, whatever.