FANTASY FOOTBALL ADVICE

[Patches]

<p>Granted there are a million messageboards out there that do this, but I thought we can help each other out here.&nbsp; I figure we can answer questions above us, and post your own..</p><p>I'll start- Who to start- L. Coles (assuming healthy) @ BUF, or Rod Smith @ NE?</p><p>also-</p><p>I traded Branch/Addai for Westbrook- keep in mind that they were both benchwarmers for me, and now I am pairing Westbrook with LT2.. Whattya think?</p>

[Snoogans]

Coles, just cause he is the only guy pennington really wants to throw to, and jake plummer might be legally retarded<br />

[Patches]

<p><img height="265" src="http://cache.deadspin.com/sports/plummerstache.jpg" width="300" border="0" /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>WHO?!?!&nbsp; THIS GUY!??!</p><p><strong>Snoogans</strong> wrote:<br />Coles, just cause he is the only guy pennington really wants to throw to, and jake plummer might be legally retarded<br /></p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Fallon]

The Pats d'backs haven't been playing so well.<br />

[PhishHead]

<p>wait you traded branch and addai for a guy who is injured???</p><p>You do realize westbrook isnt 100% right?? His knee is going to give out soon and he wont be able to make the same moves as he use to be able too.</p><p>Plus Addai will be the starter either this week or next. Dungy loves him and showed it last week.&nbsp;</p>

[Sheeplovr]

real advise is dont play fantasy football its dorkier then larping<br />

[DarkHippie]

Rod smith also has an injury and is only probable for this week.&nbsp; And Jake plummer is legally retarded.

[Patches]

<strong>Sheeplovr</strong> wrote:<br />real advise is dont play fantasy football its dorkier then larping<br /><p>Thats the most Moe-ish thing I've ever heard.&nbsp; Not into it, you know where the door is, since you walked in to begin with- or better yet- go fuck yourself.</p><p>Anyway.. yeah.. and I think it was&nbsp;a good deal- I sacrificed NOTHING... I lost 2 bench players for a potential stud.</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Patches on 9-22-06 @ 11:51 PM</span>

[spoon]

<strong>Snoogans</strong> wrote:<br />Coles, just cause he is the only guy pennington really wants to throw to, and jake plummer might be legally retarded<br /><p>Disagree, Coles is banged up and Buffalo's secondary is one of the best in the league.&nbsp; Bad fucking pick with&nbsp;Smith (old and done)&nbsp;though too but still a better chance this week against NE's week secondary.&nbsp; Isn't someone available out there like Wilford (Jax) or Henry (CIN)??&nbsp; </p><p>And I have to say I hate the trade you made.&nbsp; That guy raped you when all is said and done.&nbsp; Barring a major injury to Addai or Branch (and Westbrook is already banged up), this wasn't a great move buddy.&nbsp; Sorry to be Debbie Downer, but not too good.</p>

[spoon]

<p>You call them bench players, but those two are both extra starters if not clear number 2 players at each position and possibly better in a week or two.&nbsp; Sure you may have some studs at those positions, but at least you&nbsp;would have had the option to use them with great matchups, on bye weeks or in the very least get better value in a trade.&nbsp; Being a part of that offense and Rhodes propensity to get injureed (along with Westbrook), Addai alone could end the season with better fantasy value.&nbsp; </p>

[Patches]

<strong>spoon</strong> wrote:<br /><p>You call them bench players, but those two are both extra starters if not clear number 2 players at each position and possibly better in a week or two.&nbsp; Sure you may have some studs at those positions, but at least you&nbsp;would have had the option to use them with great matchups, on bye weeks or in the very least get better value in a trade.&nbsp; Being a part of that offense and Rhodes propensity to get injureed (along with Westbrook), Addai alone could end the season with better fantasy value.&nbsp; </p><p>Branch was never going to crack my lineup- my receivers are Holt, Boldin, and DJax- Coles is pretty much my bye week fill in.&nbsp; Addai was becoming my #2 RB before I traded him- my other option is Mike Bell.&nbsp; So optimally my lineup looks like</p><p>Brees. LT2/Westbrook, Holt/Boldin/DJax, Wilkins, TB DEF with Coles, Rod Smith, Mike Bell, Rothlisberger, and McCardell on my bench. (14 team league- no mandatory TE).&nbsp; My thinking was packaging those 2 for a stud RB was just a good consolidation of talent.... After this week, I may offer Brees and pretty much my whole bench for PManning- the guy who has him has absolute garbage at WR- I'd be doing him a favor.</p>

[El Mudo]

If Coles is banged up, I'd grab Jerricho Cotchery, since he'd probably have a bigger role then

As for the other thing, its kinda tough, but I'd start Coles at Buffalo...the Jets really don't have any kind of consistent running attack, which the Broncos do with the Bells

Here's a piece of news I got on him:



Update: Coles indicated Friday that he felt good and is expected to play Sunday against the Bills despite being listed as questionable with a calf injury, ESPN's John Clayton reports. Coles did not practice with the Jets all week, though he was able to do some work on his own.

Recommendation: The Buffalo secondary has held up well over the past two weeks, but perhaps QB Chad Pennington (with Coles as his favorite target) will have more luck exploiting the inexperience of Buffalo's safeties than Daunte Culpepper did last week.

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Patches</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>spoon</strong> wrote:<br /><p>You call them bench players, but those two are both extra starters if not clear number 2 players at each position and possibly better in a week or two.&nbsp; Sure you may have some studs at those positions, but at least you&nbsp;would have had the option to use them with great matchups, on bye weeks or in the very least get better value in a trade.&nbsp; Being a part of that offense and Rhodes propensity to get injureed (along with Westbrook), Addai alone could end the season with better fantasy value.&nbsp; </p><p>Branch was never going to crack my lineup- my receivers are Holt, Boldin, and DJax- Coles is pretty much my bye week fill in.&nbsp; Addai was becoming my #2 RB before I traded him- my other option is Mike Bell.&nbsp; So optimally my lineup looks like</p><p>Brees. LT2/Westbrook, Holt/Boldin/DJax, Wilkins, TB DEF with Coles, Rod Smith, Mike Bell, Rothlisberger, and McCardell on my bench. (14 team league- no mandatory TE).&nbsp; My thinking was packaging those 2 for a stud RB was just a good consolidation of talent.... After this week, I may offer Brees and pretty much my whole bench for PManning- the guy who has him has absolute garbage at WR- I'd be doing him a favor.</p><p>i would have rather had addai as my second then mike bell, and deion branch over mccardell</p><p>westbrook hasnt had the same fantasy value as he did two years ago, and has never played a full season</p>

[spoon]

<p>We all are etitled to our opinions, it's what makes fatasy football so much fun.&nbsp; Your putting your hunches, feelings and football knowledge to the test vs your friends.&nbsp; Patches is cool as shit, but it really doesn't seem like your asking for opinions, just validating your moves/choices FF thread.&nbsp; It may work out, but CJ pretty much summed up my feelings.&nbsp; Watch Addai score this week vs the tough Jax D and Brach catch 6 passes or more in less then a week in Seattle's potent offense.&nbsp; See what you think after that since it's only week #3 and both their roles will grow exponentially.&nbsp; </p>

[walking joint]

i'd check to see if Reggie Williams is available and drop Smith for him.&nbsp; then start him vs the Colts and their struggling defense.&nbsp; Matt Jones isn't playing for the Jags so Williams should see plenty of balls.

[spoon]

Good call there but I do think Jones will play.&nbsp; He's resting the groin just like last week.

[ChimneyFish]

<p><strong><em><font face="georgia,times new roman,times,serif" size="2">So....</font></em></strong></p><p><strong><em><font face="Georgia" size="2">Eli or Vick</font></em></strong></p><p><strong><em><font face="Georgia" size="2">Toomer or Jericho Cothery(NYJ)</font></em></strong></p><p><strong><em><font face="Georgia" size="2">DeShaun Foster or Brandon Jacobs????</font></em></strong></p>

[spoon]

So much for my theory on Westbrook!&nbsp; What a game he's having, but it's the niners.

[ChimneyFish]

<strong><em><font face="georgia,times new roman,times,serif" size="2">Good thing I left Houshmanzadeh and Vick on the bench, so I could star Eli and Toomer.<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/surrender.gif" border="0" /></font></em></strong>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by ChimneyFish on 9-24-06 @ 6:30 PM</span>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>ChimneyFish</strong> wrote:<br /><strong><em><font face="georgia,times new roman,times,serif" size="2">Good thing I left Houshmanzadeh and Vick on the bench, so I could star Eli and Toomer.<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/surrender.gif" border="0" /></font></em></strong> <span class="post_edited">This message was edited by ChimneyFish on 9-24-06 @ 6:30 PM</span> <p>there was no way to know that the g men would get their arses kicked like this</p><p>hey theres still the 4th quarter, eli loves the 4th quarter</p>

[ChimneyFish]

<p><strong><em><font face="georgia,times new roman,times,serif" size="2">Because of Eli, Toomer &amp; Westbrook, I've come back from a 20 points behind, and now have a 7 point lead.</font></em></strong></p><p><strong><em><font face="Georgia" size="2">Yeeeeah me!!!!<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smoke.gif" border="0" /></font></em></strong>&nbsp;</p><p><strong><em><font face="georgia,times new roman,times,serif" size="2">3 and 0.</font></em></strong></p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by ChimneyFish on 9-24-06 @ 7:34 PM</span>

[walking joint]

forget my advice on Reggie Williams.&nbsp;

[Fezticle98]

<p>Just throwin' it out there (bad pun intended)...Favre vs. Philly or Kitna vs. StL?</p>

[Fallon]

<span class="postbody">Kitna</span>

[Fezticle98]

I ended up going with Favre. For my sake, I hope it's the Favre of last week and not the Favre of so many weeks before.

[Fezticle98]

<strong>fezticle98</strong> wrote:<br />I ended up going with Favre. For my sake, I hope it's the Favre of last week and not the Favre of so many weeks before. <p>Fallon, you were right. Oh well, I would have lost anyway. My team is reeling after 2 straight losses, but I feel good about this week. I have some good matchups and an inferior opponent.</p>

[DarkHippie]

Ok, for my RB2 should I play Dunn against the Giants or Kevin Jones against the Bills?&nbsp; Dunn is the better back, but the Bills cant stop the run.

[Fezticle98]

<strong>DarkHippie</strong> wrote:<br />Ok, for my RB2 should I play Dunn against the Giants or Kevin Jones against the Bills?&nbsp; Dunn is the better back, but the Bills cant stop the run. <p>IMO I'd probably go with Jones. With receptions, he gets as many touches as Dunn and has 3 TD's as opposed to 0 for Dunn, I believe. As you mentioned, Bills are a much worse run D than the Giants.</p><p>Only thing pointing toward Dunn is that Jerious Norwood is out, so he will get all the RB carries.</p>

[DarkHippie]

<p>I'm torn on this, because Dunn was an early draft pick for me (3rd round) so I feel like I have to use him.&nbsp; Also, that zone blocking is a bitch.</p><p>More answers please, i have 90 minutes to go.</p>

[Fezticle98]

<p>You can call Fox sports radio @ 877-996-6369 and ask them. The Thompson bros are on until 12:00 doing an all fantasy show.</p><p>BTW they said start all your Detroit players (Kitna, R. Williams, Jones) against the Bills. Haven't heard any opinion on Dunn.</p>

[DarkHippie]

I'm gonna go with jones.

[Fallon]

I have TO and Holt in one league, got me 6TD's today. In my other league (2QB league) both my starters were on bye, but for now I'll still winning, but that'll probably change.<br />

[cougarjake13]

<strong>DarkHippie</strong> wrote:<br />I'm gonna go with jones. <p>looks like you made the right choice although it was close</p><p>dunn&nbsp; 14 for 146 and 1 td&nbsp;&nbsp; no recieving stats</p><p>jones 23 for 157 and 1 td&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 6 catches for 36 yds</p>

[Fallon]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>Fallon</strong> wrote:<br />I have TO and Holt in one league, got me 6TD's today. In my other league (2QB league) both my starters were on bye, but for now I'll still winning, but that'll probably change.<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Oh yeah, I got Coles in that league too. God damn!&nbsp;</p>

[DarkHippie]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>DarkHippie</strong> wrote:<br />I'm gonna go with jones. <p>looks like you made the right choice although it was close</p><p>dunn&nbsp; 14 for 146 and 1 td&nbsp;&nbsp; no recieving stats</p><p>jones 23 for 157 and 1 td&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 6 catches for 36 yds</p><p>And Tiki was my RB1!&nbsp; All together I've put up 100 pts and I still have my QB (Plummer) and defence (Bears) to go</p>

[Fezticle98]

<p>How are&nbsp;everyone's teams doing?</p><p>I'm 3rd in my league of 14 with the playoffs starting next week. Top 8 make the playoffs.&nbsp;1 &amp; 2 are way better than me, so I'll need some help in the postseason.</p>

[cougarjake13]

<p>in a 2 qb league i have </p><p>eli manning&nbsp;at carolina</p><p>steve mcnair at kansas city</p><p>and philip rivers at home v denver</p><p>which 2 should i start i have rivers and mcnair going right now cause eli's been sucking balls lately</p>

[Fezticle98]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><p>in a 2 qb league i have </p><p>eli manning&nbsp;at carolina</p><p>steve mcnair at kansas city</p><p>and philip rivers at home v denver</p><p>which 2 should i start i have rivers and mcnair going right now cause eli's been sucking balls lately</p><p>Probably too late, but I would go with Eli and Rivers.</p>

[spoon]

<strong>fezticle98</strong> wrote:<br /><p>How are&nbsp;everyone's teams doing?</p><p>I'm 3rd in my league of 14 with the playoffs starting next week. Top 8 make the playoffs.&nbsp;1 &amp; 2 are way better than me, so I'll need some help in the postseason.</p><p>Technically first right now due to tiebreakers over the other two with the same record.&nbsp; I beat them&nbsp;both head to head and have more overall points.</p>

[ChimneyFish]

<strong><em><font face="georgia,palatino" size="2">Playoffs started this week. I'm next to last in the leauge, or should I say penultimate????<img src="/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/happy.gif" border="0" width="20" height="20" />&nbsp;My record was 5-8. Funny thing is, I was undefeated in my division.</font></em></strong>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>fezticle98</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><p>in a 2 qb league i have </p><p>eli manning&nbsp;at carolina</p><p>steve mcnair at kansas city</p><p>and philip rivers at home v denver</p><p>which 2 should i start i have rivers and mcnair going right now cause eli's been sucking balls lately</p><p>Probably too late, but I would go with Eli and Rivers.</p><p>nah i still would have had 15 minutes at the time of your post but i stayed with rivers and mcnair</p><p>rivers was always gonna stay in so it was between mcnair and eli</p><p>mcnair&nbsp; 21/27 283 yds 1td</p><p>eli 17/33 172 3tds</p><p>mcnair had more yds but eli had the 3 tds but in my league you get 1 point for a completion so eli may wind up with more points but not that many</p>

[Fezticle98]

<p>I need 21 yards out of Berrian or Muhammad in Monday's game to win my first round playoff game. With the way Grossman is throwing,&nbsp;that is far from a sure thing.</p><p>I think I will start Berrian, as Muhammad is in a worse slump of the two.</p>

[spoon]

I'd go the other way as Berrian is a deep threat and I really don't think they'll go down field all that much and Muh is more a possession receiver.&nbsp; I think they'll be running a ton, while hitting some short Rich Gannon type passing to Clark and Muh.&nbsp; Just my call, but you're probably good either way.&nbsp; Brees brought me back bigtime in my league but I still have to brave the storm of half the Ram's offense and D. Clark on Chi.&nbsp; This one is a td league only so I'm up 22 points going against Jackson, Holt, Bulger and Clark.&nbsp; And yep you guessed it, this guy is a fucking raving Ram's fan.&nbsp; Go Chicago D and run scoring game!

[cougarjake13]

i'd go with mush especially if sexy rexy sucks ass and they move to griese after halftime

[spoon]

Well here's to hoping you went with your gut.

[cougarjake13]

<strong>spoon</strong> wrote:<br />Well here's to hoping you went with your gut. <p>they had similar stats so he won either way</p><p>berian&nbsp;&nbsp; 3 for 62&nbsp; 1 td</p><p>mush&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3 for 50 1 td</p>

[spoon]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>spoon</strong> wrote:<br />Well here's to hoping you went with your gut. <p>they had similar stats so he won either way</p><p>berian&nbsp;&nbsp; 3 for 62&nbsp; 1 td</p><p>mush&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3 for 50 1 td</p><p>Not at the time I posted that.&nbsp; At that point, B had 3/61 and a TD, while Mush had nothing at all!</p>

[Fezticle98]

<strong>spoon</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>spoon</strong> wrote:<br />Well here's to hoping you went with your gut. <p>they had similar stats so he won either way</p><p>berian&nbsp;&nbsp; 3 for 62&nbsp; 1 td</p><p>mush&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3 for 50 1 td</p><p>Not at the time I posted that.&nbsp; At that point, B had 3/61 and a TD, while Mush had nothing at all!</p><p>I went with Berrian. Turns out I needed the TD. I forgot my opponent's D had a blocked kick which gave him four additional points. On to the semifinals!</p>

[phillyfan]

<p>I'm looking for a little advice w/ my QB position... I have Romo and Garcia, and my gut feeling is to keep Romo in, but Garcia has been putting up good numbers and I just have a feeling that the Eagles secondary is going to be hot this week!</p><p>&nbsp;Any thoughts?</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>phillyfan</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I'm looking for a little advice w/ my QB position... I have Romo and Garcia, and my gut feeling is to keep Romo in, but Garcia has been putting up good numbers and I just have a feeling that the Eagles secondary is going to be hot this week!</p><p>&nbsp;Any thoughts?</p><p>romo will throw for 5 td's so i'd put him in</p>

[phillyfan]

Yeah, I think you're right; it's just tough because I'm an Eagles fan, so I want to see Romo do bad, but I am in the SB.

[cougarjake13]

its in dallas so go with romo

[cougarjake13]

<p>i got javon walker, santana moss, marques colston, and keyshawn johnson</p><p>i can only start 3 i currently have walker, moss, and colston in there now, should i take one out and put keyshawn in ???</p>

[spoon]

I would have said no, stay with it that way Cj

[spoon]

<strong>phillyfan</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I'm looking for a little advice w/ my QB position... I have Romo and Garcia, and my gut feeling is to keep Romo in, but Garcia has been putting up good numbers and I just have a feeling that the Eagles secondary is going to be hot this week!</p><p>&nbsp;Any thoughts?</p><p>CJ's right, Romo no doubt.&nbsp; Plus if he stinks up the joint then you probably have a Philly win to pick you up.&nbsp; It's a win, win!</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>spoon</strong> wrote:<br />I would have said no, stay with it that way Cj <p>i stayed with it and it didnt matter much walker and colston i was keeping in so it was between key and moss and they both performed bad </p>

[phillyfan]

Thanks, but I don't think it'll matter... I'm down my 30 pts. and the team I'm playing still has J. Jones.<div><br /></div><div>-Cheers</div>

[flavopop]

<p>Its all over cept for the cryin.&nbsp; Im up 30 points and have my favorite Jackass T.O. tonight against Phillys kicker Akers.&nbsp; The Barkin Tootsies will be the Clownpuncha League Champion for 2006 in about 6 hours!&nbsp; </p><p>Kudos to me squad of winners.&nbsp; C Palmer, S Alexander (1st pick bust but big games the past few weeks.) F Gore (my MVP) T.O., M Jone-Drew, M Colston, S Grahm, J Shockey and the rest of the fill ins.</p><p>Merry Xmas to me!&nbsp; 1G 1st place prize is a sweet take on Christmas day!&nbsp; </p><p>Merry Xmas to all!</p><p>Seeeeyaaaaaa</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>phillyfan</strong> wrote:<br />Thanks, but I don't think it'll matter... I'm down my 30 pts. and the team I'm playing still has J. Jones.*&gt;<br />*&gt;-Cheers <p>but marion barber gets most of the td opportunities and jones hasnt been a big focal part of the offense</p><p>plus you have a qb position left that you could easily make up that 30 pt difference and just hope jones doesnt do anything crazy</p>

[phillyfan]

<strong>flavopop</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Its all over cept for the cryin.ÿ Im up 30 points and have my favorite Jackass T.O. tonight against Phillys kicker Akers.ÿ The Barkin Tootsies will be the Clownpuncha League Champion for 2006 in about 6 hours!ÿ </p><p>Kudos to me squad of winners.ÿ C Palmer, S Alexander (1st pick bust but big games the past few weeks.) F Gore (my MVP) T.O., M Jone-Drew, M Colston, S Grahm, J Shockey and the rest of the fill ins.</p><p>Merry Xmas to me!ÿ 1G 1st place prize is a sweet take on Christmas day!ÿ </p><p>Merry Xmas to all!</p><p>Seeeeyaaaaaa</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Congrats, flav! What a squad... getting Gore and Jones-Drew did more than make up for the Madden curse put on S Alexander.</p>

[phillyfan]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>phillyfan</strong> wrote:<br />Thanks, but I don't think it'll matter... I'm down my 30 pts. and the team I'm playing still has J. Jones.*&gt;<br />*&gt;-Cheers <p>but marion barber gets most of the td opportunities and jones hasnt been a big focal part of the offense</p><p>plus you have a qb position left that you could easily make up that 30 pt difference and just hope jones doesnt do anything crazy</p><p>&nbsp;Yeah, I'm hoping they continue to utlize Barber, especially in the redzone.</p>

[flavopop]

<p>Thanks Philly, your eagles are stompin a mud hole in the Boyz, but there is still some time left.&nbsp; Garcia looks real good, who would have thought after a couple tough years for him.&nbsp; </p><p>I picked up jones drew in about week 3 and he was gold the rest of the way.&nbsp; Frankie Gore I got in the 4th round and somehow scored Carson Palmer in the 5th.&nbsp; (I had first pick so I got last pick in the 4th and first in the 5th)</p><p>Now I just need my Jets to whoop[ the Fish tonight so we can wrap up a playoff spot next week.&nbsp; What a friggin football season this will be if the Jets make the playoffs (when they were predicted to suck ass) AND I win Fantasy.&nbsp; GOOD TIMES!&nbsp; Im back to the games.&nbsp; PEACE</p>