2006 NFL Discussion Thread

[burrben]

son of a bitch goddamn 49ers

[TheMojoPin]

<p>I am NOT happy.</p><p>Grossman's implosion (again) is one thing...what I'm FAR more concerned about is how goddamn ineffective the passing defense has been for a MONTH now.&nbsp; A fucking month.&nbsp; This team, as they've been playing for the last 4 weeks, will not, NOT, not-not-not-not-not win shit in the playoffs.&nbsp; Nothing.&nbsp; Short of them masterfully hiding their &quot;real&quot; defense before the playoffs against the scrubs teams, there is zero excuse for the shit they're letting teams get away with.</p><p>MOTHERFUCK.</p>

[Bueller]

I can't stop laughing when Madden says Brett Favre" I just hear Frank Caliendo doing his impersonation of Madden.

[Bama]

<p>This Brett Favre stroking has gone on for so many years that it doesn't even piss me off anymore.</p><p>I'm actually rooting for the guy now. </p><p>Everyone pretend to be surprised when he comes back next year.</p>

[TheMojoPin]

<p>BOO THIS TEAM!!!!&nbsp; BOO THEM UNTIL THEY CRY!!!&nbsp; AND THEN BOO THEM SOME MORE!!!</p><p>You mutts go and think over the next two weeks...you go and you ponder real fucking hard about how you're going to pull a fucking playoff win out of your motherfucking asses.</p><p>They need to get this &quot;we can cruise&quot; bullshit out of their heads...they haven't looked dominant, not even close, since the 2nd half of that game against the Giants...ALMOST 2 FUCKING MONTHS AGO.</p>

[Fallon]

Favre is a pussy.

[DJEvelEd]

<p>Griese fuckin sucks. What the fuck is wrong with Orton? That guy is pretty good!</p><p>Griese? For Gawd sakes! Put in Orton if he's not hurt. What the hell has Griese EVER done. At least Orton knows the system and he's a big strong fucker.</p><p>Griese?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Griese? Ugh.</p>

[DJEvelEd]

Oh SHIT FOLKS WE HAVE A CRIER!!!! Favre is blubbering like a big baby! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

[Kevin]

Oh Baby when we beat the Eagles ass next week... ITS ON TO CHI TOWN FOR A PAY BACK!!!!!!!!!!!

[Gvac]

<p>The early lines for next weeks games -</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>INDIANAPOLIS &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -7 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Kansas City</p><p>SEATTLE &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -3 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Dallas</p><p>NEW ENGLAND &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -9 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; New York Jets</p><p>PHILADELPHIA &nbsp; &nbsp; -6.5 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; New York Giants&nbsp;</p>

[DJEvelEd]

<p><strong>INDIANAPOLIS&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-7 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Kansas City</strong></p><p><strong>SEATTLE &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Dallas</strong></p><p><strong>NEW ENGLAND &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -9&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;New York Jets</strong></p><p><strong>PHILADELPHIA &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; -6.5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;New York Giants</strong></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I'll take the Jets and Dallas with the points.</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by DJEvelEd on 1-1-07 @ 2:26 AM</span>

[Ritalin]

<p>Man, I am so fucking pissed with the Bears. It wasn't just Grossman, it was the whole team stumbling around the field. </p><p>If they lose another home playoff game in two weeks...shit, I don't even want to think about it. </p><p>Last night's game was so bad that I can't even crow about the Cowboy game.&nbsp;</p>

[TheMojoPin]

<strong>Ritalin</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Man, I am so fucking pissed with the Bears. It wasn't just Grossman, it was the whole team stumbling around the field. </p><p>If they lose another home playoff game in two weeks...shit, I don't even want to think about it. </p><p>Last night's game was so bad that I can't even crow about the Cowboy game.&nbsp;</p><p>No kidding about the team fucking up...Griese looked almost as bad as Grossman, the O-line couldn't stop anything, the defense couldn't stop the pass...the only guy that brightened my day was Cedric Benson.&nbsp; Thomas Jones can still be potent, but Benson needs most of the carries, especially when they're 2-3 yeards from a 1st down.</p><p>Bottom line, the Bears intended to come out and win with the majority of their starters last night and they got slapped around like a retarded baby with a pissed-off crackhead for a mother.&nbsp; All this game did was highlight the flaws that have been getting worse over the last 2 months...I understand the defense is without Mike Brown, Tommie Harris and Tillman, but the O-line can't stop anything.&nbsp; Ed, bringing Orton out there would be suicide.&nbsp; The reason he was only mostly awful last year and not totally awful was because the O-line wasn't nearly as weak as it is now.&nbsp; Send him out there now and he'll get pounded/flustered even worse than Grossman and Griese.</p><p>Their biggest problem, no way around it, is the O-line.&nbsp; If Grossman can get protection, he can get it done.&nbsp; He's not getting that protection...not even close.</p><p>Ugh.</p>

[cougarjake13]

<p>broncos cb darrent williams shot dead last night</p><p><a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6323794">http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6323794</a></p><p>he was a decent player dont remember much about him</p>

[burrben]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><p>broncos cb darrent williams shot dead last night</p><p><a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6323794">http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6323794</a></p><p>he was a decent player dont remember much about him</p><p>i'm shocked.&nbsp;he was good. he wasn't champ bailey good but he was coming along. he was a thousand times better than foxworth</p>

[cougarjake13]

espn was saying that he was friends&nbsp; with some crips and that may have had something to do with his death

[cougarjake13]

<p>as expected</p><p>dennis green fired from arizona as head coach</p><p><a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6325242">http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6325242</a></p>

[DonInNC]

And the Falcons have a press conference scheduled for this afternoon. I guess the drama has begun.

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by DonInNC on 1-1-07 @ 1:32 PM</span>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>DonInNC</strong> wrote:<br />And the Falcons have a press conference scheduled for this afternoon. I guess the drama has begun. <span class="post_edited">This message was edited by DonInNC on 1-1-07 @ 1:32 PM</span> <p>oh boy</p><p>if its not about vicks ankle then mora is gone </p>

[DonInNC]

<p>He's gone. &nbsp;see ya'</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-falcons-mora&amp;prov=ap&amp;type=lgns">http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-falcons-mora&amp;prov=ap&amp;type=lgns</a></p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Gvac]

If the Detroit Lions do not relieve Matt Millen of his duties as team president and CEO I will be astounded.

[DJEvelEd]

Rams win the TV Title! Rams win....Th h h h h h h Rams WIN!

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Gvac</strong> wrote:<br />If the Detroit Lions do not relieve Matt Millen of his duties as team president and CEO I will be astounded. <p>they beat the cowboys</p><p>it may have saved his job</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>DJEvelEd</strong> wrote:<br />Rams win the TV Title! Rams win....Th h h h h h h Rams WIN! <p>how does this whole tv title thing work ???</p>

[DJEvelEd]

<p><strong><font size="2">&quot;Atlanta's coach, who worked hard to patch up any rift by saying he would take Vick over anyone in NFL history if he was starting a team.&quot;</font></strong></p><p><font size="1">No wonder he's gone. He's clearly a fucking idiot! Mike Vick is the best QB in HISTORY? HAHAHAHAHAHA!</font></p><p><strong><font size="2">Vick said. &quot;We're too good to be losing these games. We should be up there among the elite&quot;</font></strong></p><p><font size="1">...and why is that Mike? How good are you? It's hard to tell because your team didn't make the playoffs so we'll never get to find out. That is the most idiotic comment ever! Wake up Mike! Your team is NOT good and either are YOU!</font></p><p><font size="1">This guy is pretty fuckin stupid. Definitely too stupid to be a good pocket passer which means reading defenses and running the offense. Maybe he should watch Peyton Manning (only the &quot;regular season&quot; Peyton, not the playoff Peyton)</font></p>

[DJEvelEd]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>DJEvelEd</strong> wrote:<br />Rams win the TV Title! Rams win....Th h h h h h h Rams WIN! <p>how does this whole tv title thing work ???</p><p>Whoever wins the Superbowl carries the title like a boxing belt. The first team to beat the Superbowl winner the next year takes the Title. It then goes to the next team who beats the team with the Title. The Title switches teams frequently throughout the year.</p><p>It's fun to figure out.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[lleeder]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>DJEvelEd</strong> wrote:<br />Rams win the TV Title! Rams win....Th h h h h h h Rams WIN! <p>how does this whole tv title thing work ???</p><p>I won a box set of the doors answering this question last time they brought it up on the show. The season starts out with the champion. When the champ loses the team that beats them is the champ. Then when they lose the next team is the champ and so on. It started this year with the Steelers then they lost to the Jaguars. The Jaguars lost to Indianapolis. Indianapolis lost to Dallas. Dallas lost to New Orleans. New Orleans lost to Washington. Washington lost to the Rams. The Rams won their last game and end the year as the TV champs.</p>

[DJEvelEd]

I still don't know who won both the TV Title AND the Superbowl in the same year. It's a mystery.

[Tenbatsuzen]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><p>as expected</p><p>dennis green fired from arizona as head coach</p><p><a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6325242">http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6325242</a></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>HE WAS WHO WE THOUGHT HE WAS!</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Tenbatsuzen</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><p>as expected</p><p>dennis green fired from arizona as head coach</p><p><a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6325242">http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6325242</a></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>HE WAS WHO WE THOUGHT HE WAS!</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>yep</p><p>a nodody without culpepper and moss</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>DJEvelEd</strong> wrote:<br />I still don't know who won both the TV Title AND the Superbowl in the same year. It's a mystery. <p>2004 was the last</p><p>new england 03 champion went 7-0 then lost to pittsburgh in week 8</p><p>pittsburgh went 9-0 to end the season then won a playoff game against the jets then lost the nexy playoff game to the pats</p><p>pats then won the super bowl against the eagles</p><p>tv title and super bowl champ same year </p>

[Ritalin]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Gvac</strong> wrote:<br />If the Detroit Lions do not relieve Matt Millen of his duties as team president and CEO I will be astounded. <p>they beat the cowboys</p><p>it may have saved his job</p><p>&nbsp;Now, that's irony. They beat the Cowboys, saved Millen's job, but lost the first pick in the draft. Boy, the Lions are backwards. </p>

[Tenbatsuzen]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Tenbatsuzen</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><p>as expected</p><p>dennis green fired from arizona as head coach</p><p><a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6325242">http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6325242</a></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>HE WAS WHO WE THOUGHT HE WAS!</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>yep</p><p>a nodody without culpepper and moss</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Guarantee you Fassel gets that job.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[DonInNC]

What other coaches are going to get fired? Romeo Crennel in Cleveland probably. I think Art Shell will get another season. There may be a surprise or two. Otherwise, that might be about it.

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Tenbatsuzen</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Tenbatsuzen</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><p>as expected</p><p>dennis green fired from arizona as head coach</p><p><a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6325242">http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6325242</a></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>HE WAS WHO WE THOUGHT HE WAS!</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>yep</p><p>a nodody without culpepper and moss</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Guarantee you Fassel gets that job.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>he should have gotten it the last time when they hired green but they didnt want to upset the minority thing like the lions did with mariucci</p><p>problem is the cards would be better next year leinart will prob be the starter from training camp on, edge in his 2nd yr with the team and green still gets fired</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>DonInNC</strong> wrote:<br />What other coaches are going to get fired? Romeo Crennel in Cleveland probably. I think Art Shell will get another season. There may be a surprise or two. Otherwise, that might be about it. <p>actually i think it goes the other way</p><p>crennell will get another season but shell was just a one year fill in b/c the steeler guy they wanted backed out (ken whisenhunt)&nbsp;and will prob replace cowher if he leaves</p>

[DonInNC]

<p>Could be. Should be IMHO. I've had doubts about&nbsp;Art Shell since he&nbsp;referred to&nbsp;his players&nbsp;as &quot;the&nbsp;inmates&quot; early in the season. I also think Romeo deserves another chance, but the Browns&nbsp;fan base is pissed. Or maybe they've become accustomed to burning through head coaches. </p><p>On&nbsp;the warm seat - Jon Gruden. Not that he deserves it, but if you only win four games in this year's NFC...</p>

[burrben]

<strong>DonInNC</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Could be. Should be IMHO. I've had doubts about&nbsp;Art Shell since he&nbsp;referred to&nbsp;his players&nbsp;as &quot;the&nbsp;inmates&quot; early in the season. I also think Romeo deserves another chance, but <strong><font size="2">the Browns&nbsp;fan base is pissed</font></strong>. Or maybe they've become accustomed to burning through head coaches. </p><p>On&nbsp;the warm seat - Jon Gruden. Not that he deserves it, but if you only win four games in this year's NFC...</p><p>for the last twenty years</p>

[Dan 'Hampton]

Any thought on Mora going to the Cardinals?&nbsp; It seems like Leinart with two great WR's and James running would be a better place for a West Coast offense that Mora runs. Certainly better than What he had in the ATL with Vick.

[Gvac]

<p>Well, the Detroit Lions fired defensive coordinator Donnie Henderson today but announced Matt Millen's job is safe.</p><p>And you wonder why the Ford Motor Company has deteriorated into a joke? &nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>dschef</strong> wrote:<br />Any thought on Mora going to the Cardinals?&nbsp; It seems like Leinart with two great WR's and James running would be a better place for a West Coast offense that Mora runs. Certainly better than What he had in the ATL with Vick. <p>sounds like a good idea</p><p>they should want him more than fassel</p>

[Kevin]

<strong>Gvac</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Well, the Detroit Lions fired defensive coordinator Donnie Henderson today but announced Matt Millen's job is safe.</p><p>And you wonder why the Ford Motor Company has deteriorated into a joke? &nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Yet Somehow.... Gvac blames Shockey....</p>

[Ritalin]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>dschef</strong> wrote:<br />Any thought on Mora going to the Cardinals? It seems like Leinart with two great WR's and James running would be a better place for a West Coast offense that Mora runs. Certainly better than What he had in the ATL with Vick. <p>sounds like a good idea</p><p>they should want him more than fassel</p><p>&nbsp;Nah, the Cards will pick up Ron Rivera, D coordinator from the Bears. He's one of the hot candidates, and there's a big Chicago population in Phoenix.</p><p>We'll miss him&nbsp;</p>

[DJEvelEd]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Tenbatsuzen</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Tenbatsuzen</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><p>as expected</p><p>dennis green fired from arizona as head coach</p><p><a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6325242">http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6325242</a></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>HE WAS WHO WE THOUGHT HE WAS!</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>yep</p><p>a nodody without culpepper and moss</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Guarantee you Fassel gets that job.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>he should have gotten it the last time when they hired green but they didnt want to upset the minority thing like the lions did with mariucci</p><p>problem is the cards would be better next year leinart will prob be the starter from training camp on, edge in his 2nd yr with the team and green still gets fired</p><p>Why would ANYONE, coach or player, want to go to the Cardinals. They have been the worst franchise since the beginning of American Football! I don't think they've ever won a title in 100 years playing! </p><p>Vince Lombardi&nbsp;wouldn't win as coach&nbsp;with Bill Walsh as Offensive Coordinator, Buddy Ryan as Defensive Coordinator, Don Shula as Quarterbacks Coach, Bill Belichek as Linebackers Coach, Weeb Eubank as GM, Bill Parcells as Conditioning Coach and&nbsp;Jimmy Johnson as the Ballboy. They would STILL be awful!</p><p>Nobody can help this sorry franchise.</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>DJEvelEd</strong> wrote: <p>Why would ANYONE, coach or player, want to go to the Cardinals. They have been the worst franchise since the beginning of American Football! I don't think they've ever won a title in 100 years playing! </p><p>Vince Lombardi&nbsp;wouldn't win as coach&nbsp;with Bill Walsh as Offensive Coordinator, Buddy Ryan as Defensive Coordinator, Don Shula as Quarterbacks Coach, Bill Belichek as Linebackers Coach, Weeb Eubank as GM, Bill Parcells as Conditioning Coach and&nbsp;Jimmy Johnson as the Ballboy. They would STILL be awful!</p><p>Nobody can help this sorry franchise.</p><p>well they did win one</p><h2>1947</h2><p>NFL Championship Game: won 28 - 21 vs. <a href="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/phi1947.htm">Philadelphia Eagles</a> </p>

[Dan 'Hampton]

How about The Tuna rejoining the Giants?&nbsp; You know he's hating it in Dallas.

[Kevin]

<strong>dschef</strong> wrote:<br />How about The Tuna rejoining the Giants? You know he's hating it in Dallas.<p>&nbsp;Fuck that has been turn coat..... Besides he has proven to be jack shit without Bellichick.</p>

[DonInNC]

<strong>dschef</strong> wrote:<br />Any thought on Mora going to the Cardinals?&nbsp; It seems like Leinart with two great WR's and James running would be a better place for a West Coast offense that Mora runs. Certainly better than What he had in the ATL with Vick. <p>Mora may have developed the reputation as a loose cannon, especially after the U. of Washington radio interview. It'll be interesting to see where he ends up.</p>

[DonInNC]

<strong>Gvac</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Well, the Detroit Lions fired defensive coordinator Donnie Henderson today but announced Matt Millen's job is safe.</p><p>Millen would make a killing selling used cars.</p>

[Dan 'Hampton]

<strong>Kevin</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>dschef</strong> wrote:<br />How about The Tuna rejoining the Giants? You know he's hating it in Dallas.<p> Fuck that has been turn coat..... <strong>Besides he has proven to be jack shit without Bellichick.</strong></p><p>&nbsp;EXACTLY.</p>

[spoon]

<strong>DonInNC</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Could be. Should be IMHO. I've had doubts about&nbsp;Art Shell since he&nbsp;referred to&nbsp;his players&nbsp;as &quot;the&nbsp;inmates&quot; early in the season. I also think Romeo deserves another chance, but the Browns&nbsp;fan base is pissed. Or maybe they've become accustomed to burning through head coaches. </p><p>On&nbsp;the warm seat - Jon Gruden. Not that he deserves it, but if you only win four games in this year's NFC...</p><p>That's the first time you had doubts with Shell?!!?&nbsp; The man sucked since fucking day one the last time he coached and is truly just a pawn to the weirdo in dark sunglasses.&nbsp; And Gruden should be gone as he has coached awful over the last 3 years easily.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[spoon]

<strong>dschef</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Kevin</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>dschef</strong> wrote:<br />How about The Tuna rejoining the Giants? You know he's hating it in Dallas. <p>Fuck that has been turn coat..... <strong>Besides he has proven to be jack shit without Bellichick.</strong></p><p>&nbsp;EXACTLY.</p><p>Really?&nbsp; &quot;exactly&quot;?&nbsp; Now I hate the Tuna but calling him jack shit without his former student is idiotic!&nbsp; I love how Kev loves to take credit away from people he ends up not liking anymore for whatever reason.&nbsp; Kev, you do it with both the Giants and the yanks.&nbsp; It's fucking hilarious.&nbsp; Say what you will but Bill gets teams in the playoffs every where he goes.&nbsp; And most of the time his teams are a threat as well.&nbsp; Stop being a fifth grader type fan and look at things logically for once, not based on your &quot;homer&quot; biased ideals. </p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>spoon</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>DonInNC</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Could be. Should be IMHO. I've had doubts about&nbsp;Art Shell since he&nbsp;referred to&nbsp;his players&nbsp;as &quot;the&nbsp;inmates&quot; early in the season. I also think Romeo deserves another chance, but the Browns&nbsp;fan base is pissed. Or maybe they've become accustomed to burning through head coaches. </p><p>On&nbsp;the warm seat - Jon Gruden. Not that he deserves it, but if you only win four games in this year's NFC...</p><p>That's the first time you had doubts with Shell?!!?&nbsp; The man sucked since fucking day one the last time he coached and is truly just a pawn to the weirdo in dark sunglasses.&nbsp; And Gruden should be gone as he has coached awful over the last 3 years easily.&nbsp; </p><p>thing is with all tampa gave up to get gruden they have to give gruden&nbsp;a little more time than a team normally would</p>

[Kevin]

<strong>spoon</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>dschef</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Kevin</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>dschef</strong> wrote:<br />How about The Tuna rejoining the Giants? You know he's hating it in Dallas. <p>Fuck that has been turn coat..... <strong>Besides he has proven to be jack shit without Bellichick.</strong></p><p>&nbsp;EXACTLY.</p><p>Really?&nbsp; &quot;exactly&quot;?&nbsp; Now I hate the Tuna but calling him jack shit without his former student is idiotic!&nbsp; I love how Kev loves to take credit away from people he ends up not liking anymore for whatever reason.&nbsp; Kev, you do it with both the Giants and the yanks.&nbsp; It's fucking hilarious.&nbsp; Say what you will but Bill gets teams in the playoffs every where he goes.&nbsp; And most of the time his teams are a threat as well.&nbsp; Stop being a fifth grader type fan and look at things logically for once, not based on your &quot;homer&quot; biased ideals. </p><p>EVER YEAR??? He has been to the playoffs 2 out of 5 years he has been with the fucking Cowgirls And once in 3 years with the Jets... What world are you in??With Bellichick........ 2 SB&nbsp; without..... ZERO Without Parcells 3 SB'S You do the math.....</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Kevin on 1-3-07 @ 6:50 PM</span>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Kevin</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>spoon</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>dschef</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Kevin</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>dschef</strong> wrote:<br />How about The Tuna rejoining the Giants? You know he's hating it in Dallas. <p>Fuck that has been turn coat..... <strong>Besides he has proven to be jack shit without Bellichick.</strong></p><p>&nbsp;EXACTLY.</p><p>Really?&nbsp; &quot;exactly&quot;?&nbsp; Now I hate the Tuna but calling him jack shit without his former student is idiotic!&nbsp; I love how Kev loves to take credit away from people he ends up not liking anymore for whatever reason.&nbsp; Kev, you do it with both the Giants and the yanks.&nbsp; It's fucking hilarious.&nbsp; Say what you will but Bill gets teams in the playoffs every where he goes.&nbsp; And most of the time his teams are a threat as well.&nbsp; Stop being a fifth grader type fan and look at things logically for once, not based on your &quot;homer&quot; biased ideals. </p><p>EVER YEAR??? He has been to the playoffs 2 out of 5 years he has been with the fucking Cowgirls And once in 3 years with the Jets... What world are you in??With Bellichick........ 2 SB&nbsp; without..... ZERO Without Parcells 3 SB'S You do the math.....</p><span class="post_edited">This message was edited by Kevin on 1-3-07 @ 6:50 PM</span> <p>so what will your argument be for bellicheck in 10 years when he hasnt won anything since weiss and romeo left ???</p>

[Kevin]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Kevin</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>spoon</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>dschef</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Kevin</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>dschef</strong> wrote:<br />How about The Tuna rejoining the Giants? You know he's hating it in Dallas. <p>Fuck that has been turn coat..... <strong>Besides he has proven to be jack shit without Bellichick.</strong></p><p>&nbsp;EXACTLY.</p><p>Really?&nbsp; &quot;exactly&quot;?&nbsp; Now I hate the Tuna but calling him jack shit without his former student is idiotic!&nbsp; I love how Kev loves to take credit away from people he ends up not liking anymore for whatever reason.&nbsp; Kev, you do it with both the Giants and the yanks.&nbsp; It's fucking hilarious.&nbsp; Say what you will but Bill gets teams in the playoffs every where he goes.&nbsp; And most of the time his teams are a threat as well.&nbsp; Stop being a fifth grader type fan and look at things logically for once, not based on your &quot;homer&quot; biased ideals. </p><p>EVER YEAR??? He has been to the playoffs 2 out of 5 years he has been with the fucking Cowgirls And once in 3 years with the Jets... What world are you in??With Bellichick........ 2 SB&nbsp; without..... ZERO Without Parcells 3 SB'S You do the math.....</p><span class="post_edited">This message was edited by Kevin on 1-3-07 @ 6:50 PM</span> <p>so what will your argument be for bellicheck in 10 years when he hasnt won anything since weiss and romeo left ???</p><p>If romeo wins 3 SBS.... YES!</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Kevin</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>spoon</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>dschef</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Kevin</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>dschef</strong> wrote:<br />How about The Tuna rejoining the Giants? You know he's hating it in Dallas. <p>Fuck that has been turn coat..... <strong>Besides he has proven to be jack shit without Bellichick.</strong></p><p>&nbsp;EXACTLY.</p><p>Really?&nbsp; &quot;exactly&quot;?&nbsp; Now I hate the Tuna but calling him jack shit without his former student is idiotic!&nbsp; I love how Kev loves to take credit away from people he ends up not liking anymore for whatever reason.&nbsp; Kev, you do it with both the Giants and the yanks.&nbsp; It's fucking hilarious.&nbsp; Say what you will but Bill gets teams in the playoffs every where he goes.&nbsp; And most of the time his teams are a threat as well.&nbsp; Stop being a fifth grader type fan and look at things logically for once, not based on your &quot;homer&quot; biased ideals. </p><p>EVER YEAR??? He has been to the playoffs 2 out of 5 years he has been with the fucking Cowgirls And once in 3 years with the Jets... What world are you in??With Bellichick........ 2 SB&nbsp; without..... ZERO Without Parcells 3 SB'S You do the math.....</p><span class="post_edited">This message was edited by Kevin on 1-3-07 @ 6:50 PM</span> <p>this is only bill's 4th year</p><p>and wikipedia says his name is duane&nbsp; charles bill parcells</p>

[DJEvelEd]

<strong>Kevin</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>spoon</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>dschef</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Kevin</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>dschef</strong> wrote:<br />How about The Tuna rejoining the Giants? You know he's hating it in Dallas. <p>Fuck that has been turn coat..... <strong>Besides he has proven to be jack shit without Bellichick.</strong></p><p>&nbsp;EXACTLY.</p><p>Really?&nbsp; &quot;exactly&quot;?&nbsp; Now I hate the Tuna but calling him jack shit without his former student is idiotic!&nbsp; I love how Kev loves to take credit away from people he ends up not liking anymore for whatever reason.&nbsp; Kev, you do it with both the Giants and the yanks.&nbsp; It's fucking hilarious.&nbsp; Say what you will but Bill gets teams in the playoffs every where he goes.&nbsp; And most of the time his teams are a threat as well.&nbsp; Stop being a fifth grader type fan and look at things logically for once, not based on your &quot;homer&quot; biased ideals. </p><p>EVER YEAR??? He has been to the playoffs 2 out of 5 years he has been with the fucking Cowgirls And once in 3 years with the Jets... What world are you in??With Bellichick........ 2 SB&nbsp; without..... ZERO Without Parcells 3 SB'S You do the math.....</p><span class="post_edited">This message was edited by Kevin on 1-3-07 @ 6:50 PM</span> <p>I think he said every <em>where</em> he goes not every <em>year</em>. That's true. He took a shitty Jets team and made them respectable. I was happy with Parcells as the Jet coach. He's not done coaching yet, he may win again someday.</p>

[Kevin]

I am counting next year........ No im not.... I am an idiot..... Sorry. its still 2-4

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Kevin</strong> wrote:<br />I am counting next year........ No im not.... I am an idiot..... Sorry. its still 2-4 <p>2 years out of 4 is pretty good most teams would love that also last year they went 9-7 and just missed out on the playoffs by one game</p><p>after 3 straight years of 5-11 with campo, parcells has gone 10-6, 6-10, 9-7, and 9-7</p>

[spoon]

Thanks for covering me on that point Ed!&nbsp; And you have to be nuts to think Parcells didn't pass anything on to Bel!&nbsp; He was his fucking mentor and even Bel admits he helped him a ton.&nbsp; Still, how can you possibly state that Parcells isn't at the least a good coach.&nbsp; There are a ton of teams always up for paying him to come bring their teams to the playoffs and at least get the teams in the limelight again.&nbsp; He always makes it happen too.&nbsp; Your arguement is stupid bc they are both good coaches, just Bel has joined the ranks of great coaches but you don't think Brady at the helm the whole time didn't help him?&nbsp; Your logic is just severely flawed and it's not even a question.

[Dan 'Hampton]

All I said was Parcells should go back to the Giants.&nbsp; Then again I don't think he'd want to coach that mess.

[cougarjake13]

<strong>dschef</strong> wrote:<br />All I said was Parcells should go back to the Giants.&nbsp; Then again I don't think he'd want to coach that mess. <p>i dont think he'd want to come back as the team prob wouldnt want him either</p><p>but who else is out there ???</p><p>&nbsp;i kinda like the idea of if cowher leaves takes off for a year and then the giants get him in 08 if possible</p>

[DJEvelEd]

I don't think Coughlin is as bad as people are saying.&nbsp;Just because some drunk fans are chanting his name, the most visible Giant figure, doesn't mean he is the problem. I can only think of 1 or 2 bad play calls this year. Coughlin came in here and took control immediately. Eli is the one not settling in well in the NY spotlight and he doesn't run the offense perfectly. Giants had some key injuries this year&nbsp;yet they're still in the playoffs. The REAL season starts this weekend so Eli has a chance to make some plays for 'Ol Man Coughlin. Eli is the one the pressure should be on, not the 'Ol Man.

[cougarjake13]

<p>coughlin has done one thing that only one other coach in giants history in&nbsp;the super bowl era</p><p>back to back playoff appearances, the other guy bill parcells</p><p>now im not saying coughlin is parcells just that its gonna be hard to get rid of a coach who took your team to the playoffs 2 out of the 3 years he coached for you </p>

[Kevin]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Kevin</strong> wrote:<br />I am counting next year........ No im not.... I am an idiot..... Sorry. its still 2-4 <p>2 years out of 4 is pretty good most teams would love that also last year they went 9-7 and just missed out on the playoffs by one game</p><p>after 3 straight years of 5-11 with campo, parcells has gone 10-6, 6-10, 9-7, and 9-7</p><p>Big whoop, if he was in the AFC chances are he misses the playoffs all 4 years. 3 years at least. </p>

[carfreaksg]

<p>The reason people are pointing fingers at Coughlin is because he is supposed to be a strict disciplinarian yet his team has been playing sloppy and even quitting at times.&nbsp; If this had been only one or two games you could say he lit some guys asses on fire.&nbsp; But, the Giants limped to the finish this year and really needed help getting into the playoffs.&nbsp; No, it is not his fault; the players are the ones on the field.&nbsp; Coughlin did fail to maintain order when things got tough, and thats why I think he has to go.</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Kevin</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Kevin</strong> wrote:<br />I am counting next year........ No im not.... I am an idiot..... Sorry. its still 2-4 <p>2 years out of 4 is pretty good most teams would love that also last year they went 9-7 and just missed out on the playoffs by one game</p><p>after 3 straight years of 5-11 with campo, parcells has gone 10-6, 6-10, 9-7, and 9-7</p><p>Big whoop, if he was in the AFC chances are he misses the playoffs all 4 years. 3 years at least. </p><p><strong><em><u><font size="7">IF????</font></u></em></strong></p><p><font size="2">Is the biggest word in the english language</font></p><p><font size="2">if jfk wasnt in an open car maybe he wouldnt have been killed</font></p><p><font size="2">if pedro and el duque dont get hurt maybe the mets&nbsp;win the world series</font></p><p><font size="2">if someone who died in the world trade center decided to call in sick on 9-11 they'd still be alive</font></p><p><font size="2">point is he's not in the afc so what would have happened if he was is irrelevant, he plays in the nfc and made the playoffs 2 out of 4 seasons and compared to what they were before he got there, it was an improvement</font></p>

[Kevin]

Look spoon, Once again your on you high anti New York horse and it clouds your judgment. Has&nbsp; Parecells been decent with his teams YES..... Has he his job NO. I agree he did a good job for the Jets.... But he did not do ALL of his job. When you have Bills rep and pay scale. Teams get you for 1 thing..... WIN A SUPER BOWL. and he never did it for the Jets. And to this point has not done, and does not seem able to do it with Dallas either. When Jerry Jones went after Bill, he said i am bringing him here to WIN A SUPER BOWL.... NOT make the playoffs not go one and done, BUT WIN A SUPERBOWL. So before you make silly biased anti NY driven comments, look at the rest of the picture and arguments. His name&nbsp; is synonymous with winning Super Bowls. And he has not done that for 16 years now. You say this and you say that and believe yourself to be all smart, but your limited in your judgment. Its just how it is... Bill Parcells gets brought to a team to do one thing, and THATS WIN A SUPERBOWL... So NO.... Since Bill has left him.... HE HAS NOT DONE JACK SHIT!

[cougarjake13]

<strong>carfreaksg</strong> wrote:<br /><p>The reason people are pointing fingers at Coughlin is because he is supposed to be a strict disciplinarian yet his team has been playing sloppy and even quitting at times.&nbsp; If this had been only one or two games you could say he lit some guys asses on fire.&nbsp; But, the Giants limped to the finish this year </p><p><font size="3" style="background-color: #ffff00"><strong><em>and really needed help getting into the playoffs</em></strong></font>.&nbsp; No, it is not his fault; the players are the ones on the field.&nbsp; Coughlin did fail to maintain order when things got tough, and thats why I think he has to go.</p><p>they needed no help</p><p>a win over wash all but guaranteed the spot, only a freak scenario of 5 teams winning plus green bay beating chicago in chicago would have bounced the giants out</p><p>thats hardly really needing help, did they limp in ?? yes but they needed no help</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Kevin</strong> wrote:<br />Look spoon, Once again your on you high anti New York horse and it clouds your judgment. Has&nbsp; Parecells been decent with his teams YES..... Has he his job NO. I agree he did a good job for the Jets.... But he did not do ALL of his job. When you have Bills rep and pay scale. Teams get you for 1 thing..... WIN A SUPER BOWL. and he never did it for the Jets. And to this point has not done, and does not seem able to do it with Dallas either. When Jerry Jones went after Bill, he said i am bringing him here to WIN A SUPER BOWL.... NOT make the playoffs not go one and done, BUT WIN A SUPERBOWL. So before you make silly biased anti NY driven comments, look at the rest of the picture and arguments. His name&nbsp; is synonymous with winning Super Bowls. And he has not done that for 16 years now. You say this and you say that and believe yourself to be all smart, but your limited in your judgment. Its just how it is... Bill Parcells gets brought to a team to do one thing, and THATS WIN A SUPERBOWL... So NO.... Since Bill has left him.... HE HAS NOT DONE JACK SHIT! <p>i hope you know that you're not arguing with spoon</p><p>he never won one with new england either but did get them there in fact he's actually regressed with each team</p><p>giants 2 super bowl wins</p><p>pats&nbsp; super bowl loss</p><p>jets&nbsp; afc championship loss</p><p>cowboys first rd loss, this yr to tbd</p><p>but he did and does help the franchise, the pats, jets, and cowboys were miserable before he got there </p>

[Ogre]

<p><img src="http://members.tripod.com/~itpa/pics/kotite.jpg" border="0" width="120" height="190" /></p><p>I heard Rich Kotite was lookin for work, how bout him?</p>

[Jughead]

Im here in Central Indiana Between the COLT's and&nbsp; the BEAR'S!! &nbsp;&nbsp; Guys....Friends ,,,,Who listen to the same radio as I??&nbsp;&nbsp; Tell me what you think about MY LOVED BEARS !!!!!!!!!(chances)

[Jughead]

I will hang up now and listen....

[SnoogansCar]

<p>Kevin.....</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Just like Bill Madden when reporting Yankee rumors... YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT..... You are&nbsp;telling Spoon that he is wrong about points he has not even made.... READ HIS POSTS before you argue........</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by SnoogansCar on 1-4-07 @ 12:05 AM</span>

[Jughead]

Nevermind...

[Freakshow]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br><strong>Tenbatsuzen</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><p>as expected</p><p>dennis green fired from arizona as head coach</p><p><a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6325242">http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6325242</a></p><p>ÿ</p><p>HE WAS WHO WE THOUGHT HE WAS!</p><p>ÿ</p><p>yep</p><p>a nodody without culpepper and moss</p><p></p>

56-40 prior to 1998. Absolutely nothing. 81-47 prior to 2000. That looks like nothing to me.

It's not Green. It's the Cardinals. No respectable coach would take that job.

[Tenbatsuzen]

<p>The cardinals would be a decent team if they could get an O-Line together.&nbsp; They'd have a VERY potent offense with a decent O-Line.&nbsp; </p><p>They need an offense minded coach who can develop the team further.&nbsp; I don't believe the Pete Carroll rumors, but Norm Chow could be a very good fit.&nbsp; I think Jim Fassel could be a good fit there too.</p><p>I don't think Chow has enough pro experience to take the Cardinals job, even with his experience developing Leinart.&nbsp; But that's just me.</p><p>Fassel's had his own issues, but this is a damaged goods team.&nbsp; They are who you think they are.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Crippler]

<strong>Tenbatsuzen</strong> wrote:<br /><p>The cardinals would be a decent team if they could get an O-Line together.&nbsp; They'd have a VERY potent offense with a decent O-Line. </p><p>Which is why I thought firing Green was abit premature.&nbsp; Sure, you went out &amp; signed a big time back.&nbsp; But without a line to block for him, what did you expect to happen?&nbsp; And that's Green's fault?&nbsp; I can't help feeling a little bit bad for the guy.</p><p>But I guess now he can go back to charging teams to use him as their &quot;must interview one black candidate&quot; token when hiring a new head coach.&nbsp; Or did the NFL finally stop that sham?</p>

[Tenbatsuzen]

<strong>Crippler</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Tenbatsuzen</strong> wrote:<br /><p>The cardinals would be a decent team if they could get an O-Line together.&nbsp; They'd have a VERY potent offense with a decent O-Line. </p><p>Which is why I thought firing Green was abit premature.&nbsp; Sure, you went out &amp; signed a big time back.&nbsp; But without a line to block for him, what did you expect to happen?&nbsp; And that's Green's fault?&nbsp; I can't help feeling a little bit bad for the guy.</p><p>But I guess now he can go back to charging teams to use him as their &quot;must interview one black candidate&quot; token when hiring a new head coach.&nbsp; Or did the NFL finally stop that sham?</p><p>I think Green undermined himself when he flipped out after the Bears game.&nbsp; </p><p>I wouldn't be shocked it Art Shell is out, replaced by Green or an offensive-minded coach.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Freakshow]

I think Green goes back to his fishing show. I think the Raiders job is now lower than the Cardinals job. Plus your division is wayyy tougher.

[Earlshog]

<strong>Tenbatsuzen</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Crippler</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Tenbatsuzen</strong> wrote:<br /><p>The cardinals would be a decent team if they could get an O-Line together.&nbsp; They'd have a VERY potent offense with a decent O-Line. </p><p>Which is why I thought firing Green was abit premature.&nbsp; Sure, you went out &amp; signed a big time back.&nbsp; But without a line to block for him, what did you expect to happen?&nbsp; And that's Green's fault?&nbsp; I can't help feeling a little bit bad for the guy.</p><p>But I guess now he can go back to charging teams to use him as their &quot;must interview one black candidate&quot; token when hiring a new head coach.&nbsp; Or did the NFL finally stop that sham?</p><p>I think Green undermined himself when he flipped out after the Bears game.&nbsp; </p><p>I wouldn't be shocked it Art Shell is out, replaced by Green or an offensive-minded coach.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>The rumor is if they fire Shell they would give the gig to Rob Ryan.. I don't see how you can blame Shell though... he really did not have much to work with... </p><p>I thought the Cards should have given Green one more year... a full year with a second year Leinart at the helm... maybe that why they have had one plaoff birth in the past 23 years... then again what do I know</p>

[Dan 'Hampton]

I'm starting the MORA/ARI 08 exploritory com.&nbsp; And for no reason but it'll help my fantasy team. Anyone else in?

[cougarjake13]

<p>shell resigns</p><p><a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6336584">http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6336584</a></p><p>and cowher will announce his resignation tommorrow</p><p><a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6333920">http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6333920</a></p>

[Kevin]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><p>shell resigns</p><p><a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6336584">http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6336584</a></p><p>and cowher will announce his resignation tommorrow</p><p><a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6333920">http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6333920</a></p><p>For about a year.</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>dschef</strong> wrote:<br />I'm starting the MORA/ARI 08 exploritory com.&nbsp; And for no reason but it'll help my fantasy team. Anyone else in? <p>i ll be in as long as you start a bill cowher to the giants in 08</p>

[spoon]

Fuck, shell and green both should have been fired before the first game of the year!&nbsp; You guys are out of your minds!&nbsp; Especially Kevin!&nbsp; I'm not biased against NY by arguing for Parcels not being &quot;jack shit&quot; without Bel.&nbsp; Look in the mirror.&nbsp; I actually find myself cheering for big blue here and there being that I'd actually call a few players friends of late.&nbsp; Fuck, I have keys to Wilson's house.&nbsp; He's a pretty damn cool guy, especially since he told Eli his neighbor is a Bolt fan and hates his guts.&nbsp; I offered Wilson and&nbsp;Jacobs bounties to take him out in practice but strangely I couldn't offer enough.&nbsp; Yet they loved it as Eli couldn't believe there are bolt fans in San Diego let along New Jersey!!&nbsp; That mother fucker will pay for his smart ass comments!

[phixion]

<p>kevin how can u argue that bill parcells hasnt doen jack shit without belichik? belichik is the reason why the cleveland browns became the raiders. i could argue that belichik isnt shit without brady. belichik is the best xs and os coach in football, im not gonna argue with that. bill parcells is the best coach in the game whne u incorporate all aspects of coaching, hes great with the media, hes get his players to play, and he does it with authority.&nbsp;belichik is successful with only one franchise, parcels has been successful wherever he has gone. he makes bad teams better, and thats always the hardest job in sports.&nbsp;</p><p>my perfect example of why i love parcells:&nbsp;i think it&nbsp;was&nbsp;romos second game&nbsp;as&nbsp;the starter, and it was close to the&nbsp;half and&nbsp;the boys have the ball in the redzone. romo checks off the play bill wants, and calls&nbsp;a fake spike, he throws the ball to the reciever in the flat and the db drops an interception that he oculdve easily taken back&nbsp;for six. the cowboys end up winning the game. int he post game when every single reporter is sucking romos dick, parcells says if&nbsp;that DB didnt&nbsp;drop the interception and taken it&nbsp;the other way like he should have you guys wouldnt be loving tony like u guys are doing right now. now lets look at how belichik handled a qb changing his plays in good old bernie kosar. bernie kosar changed a belichik play in the huddle and wants to go deep in a game cuz one of the&nbsp;corners were injured and couldnt keep up with the wr. kosar goes deep scores a&nbsp;td. belichiks response: cutting him. parcells is willing to help players get better and play them through their mistakes, belichik wants yes men. &nbsp;&nbsp;</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>spoon</strong> wrote:<br />Fuck, shell and green both should have been fired before the first game of the year!&nbsp; You guys are out of your minds!&nbsp; Especially Kevin!&nbsp; I'm not biased against NY by arguing for Parcels not being &quot;jack shit&quot; without Bel.&nbsp; Look in the mirror.&nbsp; I actually find myself cheering for big blue here and there being that I'd actually call a few players friends of late.&nbsp; Fuck, I have keys to Wilson's house.&nbsp; He's a pretty damn cool guy, especially since he told Eli his neighbor is a Bolt fan and hates his guts.&nbsp; I offered Wilson and&nbsp;Jacobs bounties to take him out in practice but strangely I couldn't offer enough.&nbsp; Yet they loved it as Eli couldn't believe there are bolt fans in San Diego let along New Jersey!!&nbsp; That mother fucker will pay for his smart ass comments! <p>why would you want him to take eli out</p><p>isnt it more fun to see him shit the bed every week and make himself look like an ass out there ???</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>phixion</strong> wrote:<br /><p>kevin how can u argue that bill parcells hasnt doen jack shit without belichik? belichik is the reason why the cleveland browns became the <strong><font size="2" style="background-color: #ffff00">raiders</font></strong>. i could argue that belichik isnt shit without brady. belichik is the best xs and os coach in football, im not gonna argue with that. bill parcells is the best coach in the game whne u incorporate all aspects of coaching, hes great with the media, hes get his players to play, and he does it with authority.&nbsp;belichik is successful with only one franchise, parcels has been successful wherever he has gone. he makes bad teams better, and thats always the hardest job in sports.&nbsp;</p><p>my perfect example of why i love parcells:&nbsp;i think it&nbsp;was&nbsp;romos second game&nbsp;as&nbsp;the starter, and it was close to the&nbsp;half and&nbsp;the boys have the ball in the redzone. romo checks off the play bill wants, and calls&nbsp;a fake spike, he throws the ball to the reciever in the flat and the db drops an interception that he oculdve easily taken back&nbsp;for six. the cowboys end up winning the game. int he post game when every single reporter is sucking romos dick, parcells says if&nbsp;that DB didnt&nbsp;drop the interception and taken it&nbsp;the other way like he should have you guys wouldnt be loving tony like u guys are doing right now. now lets look at how belichik handled a qb changing his plays in good old bernie kosar. bernie kosar changed a belichik play in the huddle and wants to go deep in a game cuz one of the&nbsp;corners were injured and couldnt keep up with the wr. kosar goes deep scores a&nbsp;td. belichiks response: cutting him. parcells is willing to help players get better and play them through their mistakes, belichik wants yes men. &nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>i think you mean ravens</p><p>but yeh i agree on your bellichek has only done it with one franchise while bill has improved&nbsp;every team when he gets there</p><p>right now bellichek is in his parcells giants phase, yeh he coached in cleveland before and bills 1st HC position was the giants but my point is </p><p>parcells with giants&nbsp; 2 super bowls</p><p>bellichek with patriots&nbsp; 3 super bowls</p><p>now lets see what happens if or when bellichek leaves NE and goes somewhere else if he can duplicate the sucess bill has had since leaving the giants</p><p>until then all comparisons are unjust</p>

[phixion]

yeah i meant ravens i cant believe i typed raiders. somebody shoot me. inattention makes idiots of us all.

[Earlshog]

<strong>phixion</strong> wrote:<br /><p>kevin how can u argue that bill parcells hasnt doen jack shit without belichik? belichik is the reason why the cleveland browns became the raiders. i could argue that belichik isnt shit without brady. belichik is the best xs and os coach in football, im not gonna argue with that. bill parcells is the best coach in the game whne u incorporate all aspects of coaching, hes great with the media, hes get his players to play, and he does it with authority.&nbsp;belichik is successful with only one franchise, parcels has been successful wherever he has gone. he makes bad teams better, and thats always the hardest job in sports.&nbsp;</p><p>my perfect example of why i love parcells:&nbsp;i think it&nbsp;was&nbsp;romos second game&nbsp;as&nbsp;the starter, and it was close to the&nbsp;half and&nbsp;the boys have the ball in the redzone. romo checks off the play bill wants, and calls&nbsp;a fake spike, he throws the ball to the reciever in the flat and the db drops an interception that he oculdve easily taken back&nbsp;for six. the cowboys end up winning the game. int he post game when every single reporter is sucking romos dick, parcells says if&nbsp;that DB didnt&nbsp;drop the interception and taken it&nbsp;the other way like he should have you guys wouldnt be loving tony like u guys are doing right now. now lets look at how belichik handled a qb changing his plays in good <strong>old bernie kosar. bernie kosar changed a belichik play in the huddle and wants to go deep in a game cuz one of the&nbsp;corners were injured and couldnt keep up with the wr. kosar goes deep scores a&nbsp;td. belichiks response: cutting him.</strong> parcells is willing to help players get better and play them through their mistakes, belichik wants yes men. &nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;he cut Kosar cause he sucked at that point in his career... it was unpopular in Clecland, but needed to be done to move forward...&nbsp;&nbsp;Belichik did turn Cleveland around... When he took over they were terrible and he turned them into a playoff team in three years&nbsp;(this was before the days of turning around a team in one season). His team fell apart when it became known they were moving to Baltimore.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>phixion</strong> wrote:<br />yeah i meant ravens i cant believe i typed raiders. somebody shoot me. inattention makes idiots of us all. <p>i figured you meant the ravens but i also could see how you meant the raiders if you were comparing how a once proud franchise has become shit and the laughingstock on the NFL</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Earlshog</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>phixion</strong> wrote:<br /><p>kevin how can u argue that bill parcells hasnt doen jack shit without belichik? belichik is the reason why the cleveland browns became the raiders. i could argue that belichik isnt shit without brady. belichik is the best xs and os coach in football, im not gonna argue with that. bill parcells is the best coach in the game whne u incorporate all aspects of coaching, hes great with the media, hes get his players to play, and he does it with authority.&nbsp;belichik is successful with only one franchise, parcels has been successful wherever he has gone. he makes bad teams better, and thats always the hardest job in sports.&nbsp;</p><p>my perfect example of why i love parcells:&nbsp;i think it&nbsp;was&nbsp;romos second game&nbsp;as&nbsp;the starter, and it was close to the&nbsp;half and&nbsp;the boys have the ball in the redzone. romo checks off the play bill wants, and calls&nbsp;a fake spike, he throws the ball to the reciever in the flat and the db drops an interception that he oculdve easily taken back&nbsp;for six. the cowboys end up winning the game. int he post game when every single reporter is sucking romos dick, parcells says if&nbsp;that DB didnt&nbsp;drop the interception and taken it&nbsp;the other way like he should have you guys wouldnt be loving tony like u guys are doing right now. now lets look at how belichik handled a qb changing his plays in good <strong>old bernie kosar. bernie kosar changed a belichik play in the huddle and wants to go deep in a game cuz one of the&nbsp;corners were injured and couldnt keep up with the wr. kosar goes deep scores a&nbsp;td. belichiks response: cutting him.</strong> parcells is willing to help players get better and play them through their mistakes, belichik wants yes men. &nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;he cut Kosar cause he sucked at that point in his career... it was unpopular in Clecland, but needed to be done to move forward...&nbsp;&nbsp;Belichik did turn Cleveland around... When he took over they were terrible and he turned them into a playoff team in three years&nbsp;(this was before the days of turning around a team in one season). His team fell apart when it became known they were moving to Baltimore.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>it was actually the fourth year that belli finally got it done </p><h1>Bill Belichick</h1><h3><a href="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/index.htm">Head Coach</a></h3><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; +--------------+----------+<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; | Reg. Season&nbsp; | Playoffs |<br />+----------+--------------+----------+<br />| Year&nbsp; TM |&nbsp;&nbsp; W&nbsp;&nbsp; L&nbsp;&nbsp; T&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp; W&nbsp;&nbsp; L&nbsp; |<br />+----------+--------------+----------+<br /><font style="background-color: #ffff00">| </font><a href="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1991.htm"><font style="background-color: #ffff00">1991</font></a><font style="background-color: #ffff00"> </font><a href="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle1991.htm"><font style="background-color: #ffff00">cle</font></a><font style="background-color: #ffff00"> |&nbsp;&nbsp; 6&nbsp; 10&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; |<br />| </font><a href="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1992.htm"><font style="background-color: #ffff00">1992</font></a><font style="background-color: #ffff00"> </font><a href="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle1992.htm"><font style="background-color: #ffff00">cle</font></a><font style="background-color: #ffff00"> |&nbsp;&nbsp; 7&nbsp;&nbsp; 9&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; |<br />| </font><a href="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1993.htm"><font style="background-color: #ffff00">1993</font></a><font style="background-color: #ffff00"> </font><a href="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle1993.htm"><font style="background-

[phixion]

<p>&nbsp;he cut Kosar cause he sucked at that point in his career... it was unpopular in Clecland, but needed to be done to move forward...&nbsp;&nbsp;Belichik did turn Cleveland around... When he took over they were terrible and he turned them into a playoff team in three years&nbsp;(this was before the days of turning around a team in one season). His team fell apart when it became known they were moving to Baltimore</p><p>&nbsp;if u are an nfl network addict like i am then u would have seen the kosar special where he retells this story. and you will see where belichik readily admits that he cut kosar because he changed the play. he already wasnt starting kosar, he was going to cut him in the offseason that was evident, but he cut him in the middle of the season. and if kosar sucks then what was vinny t?</p><p>91 6-10, </p><p>92 7-9, </p><p>93 7-9,</p><p>94 11-5, </p><p>95 5-11. </p><p>to me it looks like 94 was the abberation not the trend. </p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>phixion</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;he cut Kosar cause he sucked at that point in his career... it was unpopular in Clecland, but needed to be done to move forward...&nbsp;&nbsp;Belichik did turn Cleveland around... When he took over they were terrible and he turned them into a playoff team in three years&nbsp;(this was before the days of turning around a team in one season). His team fell apart when it became known they were moving to Baltimore</p><p>&nbsp;if u are an nfl network addict like i am then u would have seen the kosar special where he retells this story. and you will see where belichik readily admits that he cut kosar because he changed the play. he already wasnt starting kosar, he was going to cut him in the offseason that was evident, but he cut him in the middle of the season. and if kosar sucks then what was vinny t?</p><p>91 6-10, </p><p>92 7-9, </p><p>93 7-9,</p><p>94 11-5, </p><p>95 5-11. </p><p>to me it looks like 94 was the abberation not the trend. </p><p>also vinny went 4-12 and 6-9-1 in his only 2 seasons in baltimore after the move</p>

[Earlshog]

<strong>phixion</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;he cut Kosar cause he sucked at that point in his career... it was unpopular in Clecland, but needed to be done to move forward...&nbsp;&nbsp;Belichik did turn Cleveland around... When he took over they were terrible and he turned them into a playoff team in three years&nbsp;(this was before the days of turning around a team in one season). His team fell apart when it became known they were moving to Baltimore</p><p>&nbsp;if u are an nfl network addict like i am then u would have seen the kosar special where he retells this story. and you will see where belichik readily admits that he cut kosar because he changed the play. he already wasnt starting kosar, he was going to cut him in the offseason that was evident, but he cut him in the middle of the season. and if kosar sucks then what was vinny t?</p><p>91 6-10, </p><p>92 7-9, </p><p>93 7-9,</p><p>94 11-5, </p><p>95 5-11. </p><p>to me it looks like 94 was the abberation not the trend. </p><p>I disagree... he took over a bad&nbsp;old team and rebuilt them... again this wasn't the&nbsp;4 - 12 to 10 - 6 next year era like today... they fell apart in 95 cause they announced during the season they were moving to Baltimore... as far as&nbsp;Vinny T, he&nbsp;had much more sucess going forward from that point then Kosar, who was a back up the rest of his career</p>

[Earlshog]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>phixion</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;he cut Kosar cause he sucked at that point in his career... it was unpopular in Clecland, but needed to be done to move forward...&nbsp;&nbsp;Belichik did turn Cleveland around... When he took over they were terrible and he turned them into a playoff team in three years&nbsp;(this was before the days of turning around a team in one season). His team fell apart when it became known they were moving to Baltimore</p><p>&nbsp;if u are an nfl network addict like i am then u would have seen the kosar special where he retells this story. and you will see where belichik readily admits that he cut kosar because he changed the play. he already wasnt starting kosar, he was going to cut him in the offseason that was evident, but he cut him in the middle of the season. and if kosar sucks then what was vinny t?</p><p>91 6-10, </p><p>92 7-9, </p><p>93 7-9,</p><p>94 11-5, </p><p>95 5-11. </p><p>to me it looks like 94 was the abberation not the trend. </p><p>also vinny went 4-12 and 6-9-1 in his only 2 seasons in baltimore after the move</p><p>he threw for over 4,000 yards and 30 Tds the first year in Baltimore... I doubt Kosar would have done the same</p>

[phixion]

<p>again this wasn't the&nbsp;4 - 12 to 10 - 6 next year era like today </p>since this is a parcells vs belichik argument ill look at parcells first coaching job to prove my point: <p>83 3-12-1</p><p>84 9-7 </p><p>one single year, do u see that turnaround?</p>

[cougarjake13]

<p>i didnt realize it til the other day but the jacksonville jaguars have 3 black qb's on their roster</p><p>this is definitely the first time in history that has happened</p><p><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="770" class="bdy" style="table-layout: fixed"><tbody><tr valign="top"><td width="5">&nbsp;</td><td width="590"><div class="dataTable"><table border="0" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" width="100%" class="bgBdr"><tbody><tr class="bgHdr1"><td colspan="9">QUARTERBACKS</td></tr><tr class="bgHdr2" align="center"><td>No.</td><td>Name</td><td>Pos.</td><td>Ht.</td><td>Wt.</td><td>Age</td><td>Birthdate</td><td>Exp.</td><td>College</td></tr><tr class="bgC" align="center"><td>9</td><td align="left"><span class="NFLx5994"><a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player?statsId=5994">David Garrard</a></span></td><td>QB</td><td>6'1&quot;</td><td>240</td><td align="center">28</td><td align="right">2/14/1978</td><td>5</td><td align="left">East Carolina</td></tr><tr class="bgC" align="center"><td>5</td><td align="left"><span class="NFLx6177"><a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player?statsId=6177">Quinn Gray</a></span></td><td>QB</td><td>6'3&quot;</td><td>246</td><td align="center">27</td><td align="right">5/21/1979</td><td>3</td><td align="left">Florida A&amp;M</td></tr><tr class="bgHigh" align="center"><td>7</td><td align="left"><span class="NFLx6343"><a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player?statsId=6343">Byron Leftwich</a></span> <span style="color: #cc0000">I</span></td><td>QB</td><td>6'5&quot;</td><td>242</td><td align="center">26</td><td align="right">1/14/1980</td><td>4</td><td align="left">Marshall</td></tr></tbody></table></div></td></tr></tbody></table></p>

[phixion]

actually last season was the first time that it happened but ur right

[cougarjake13]

<strong>phixion</strong> wrote:<br />actually last season was the first time that it happened but ur right <p>shit&nbsp; never heard of quinn gray til this year</p>

[MHasegawa]

bob costas doesnt age, its fuckin creepy

[cougarjake13]

<strong>MHasegawa</strong> wrote:<br />bob costas doesnt age, its fuckin creepy <p>he's the dick clark of sports</p>

[cougarjake13]

hey i thought eli manning plays tommorrow

[cougarjake13]

<p>sean payton gets the nod</p><p><a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6341798">http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6341798</a></p>

[Bulldogcakes]

THis Dallas/Seattle game is one of the wildest playoff games I've ever seen.

[DJEvelEd]

Dallas just diahreaa'd on the bed!

[Kevin]

This is the best thing i have seen in a LOOOOONG time.... FANTASTIC!

[TonyRomo]

<p>OOPSIE DAISY!</p><p>I guess I have butterfingers!&nbsp;</p>

[Fallon]

So awesome.

[nevnut]

<p>Fuckin' loved it.&nbsp; I hate Dallas so much.</p><p>Hopin' for a West coast Super Bowl with the Hawks and Chargers!!!!</p>

[nevnut]

<strong>TonyRomo</strong> wrote:<br /><p>OOPSIE DAISY!</p><p>I guess I have butterfingers!&nbsp;</p><p>Cry-Baby!!!</p>

[TonyRomo]

<p>I left my helmet alone by my locker while I showered. I got back and some left a big stinking turd in it. Terrell is fiddling around with prescription bottles and Coach locked himself in his office. Someone said they heard screaming and loud noises, followed by a loud thud and silence.</p><p>Oh shit, here comes Jerry Jones! I gotta hide somewhere! FUCK!</p>

[NickyL0885]

That has got to be the worst and funniest ending to a game I have ever seen. Holy Shit. lmao

[Recyclerz]

<p>Wow, that was a real <em>North Dallas Forty</em> ending.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[lleeder]

<p>That was the best. Thats what you get for making your quarter back hold for pat's and fieldgoals&nbsp;like a ham and egger.</p>

[nevnut]

<strong>Recyclerz</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Wow, that was a real <em>North Dallas Forty</em> ending.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Nailed it!!</p>

[TonyRomo]

<strong>lleeder</strong> wrote:<br /><p>That was the best. Thats what you get for making your quarter back hold for pat's and fieldgoals like a ham and egger.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>Your telling me.&nbsp;

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by TonyRomo on 1-6-07 @ 11:36 PM</span>

[epo]

<strong>lleeder</strong> wrote:<br /><p>That was the best. Thats what you get for making your quarter back hold for pat's and fieldgoals&nbsp;like a ham and egger.</p><p>No shit.&nbsp; Didn't Parcells have a chance to switch that out when they cut Vanderjagt?</p>

[Gvac]

Feel my pain Dallas fans.

[DJEvelEd]

Do we get to see Romo cry like a bitch now?
How about if he cries like a Favre?

Here he goes....


WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

[lleeder]

Does anyone else listen to the NFL Now with Mike Francesa on Sunday mornings? I can't wait to hear him talk about how sad his boy Parcells is tommorrow.

[Marc with a c]

<p>i wonder who the holder is going to be at the pro bowl.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Marc with a c</strong> wrote:<br /><p>i wonder who the holder is going to be at the pro bowl.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>doubt it'll be romo now </p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>lleeder</strong> wrote:<br />Does anyone else listen to the NFL Now with Mike Francesa on Sunday mornings? I can't wait to hear him talk about how sad his boy Parcells is tommorrow. <p>i used to when i lived up there</p><p>i know they have the stream on the wfan website but i dont listen </p><p>he'll just find a way to make it all good for parcells and that romo was a rookie yadda yadda yadda</p>

[JeremiahTrotter]

<strong>TonyRomo</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I left my helmet alone by my locker while I showered. I got back and some left a big stinking turd in it. Terrell is fiddling around with prescription bottles and Coach locked himself in his office. Someone said they heard screaming and loud noises, followed by a loud thud and silence.</p><p>Oh shit, here comes Jerry Jones! I gotta hide somewhere! FUCK!</p><p>You give Texas a bad name.&nbsp; I'll sack your ass, cause i'm from Texas.&nbsp; </p>

[Bama]

The Colts and Patriots are gonna be playing in two weeks. Exciting stuff.

[lleeder]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>lleeder</strong> wrote:<br />Does anyone else listen to the NFL Now with Mike Francesa on Sunday mornings? I can't wait to hear him talk about how sad his boy Parcells is tommorrow. <p>i used to when i lived up there</p><p>i know they have the stream on the wfan website but i dont listen </p><p>he'll just find a way to make it all good for parcells and that romo was a rookie yadda yadda yadda</p><p>He actually said romo has been bad the last 6 weeks and come back to earth. He said either worst or second worst loss pf Parcells career. Only said maybe Jet loss in the playoffs with lots turnovers was worse</p>

[Gvac]

<p>Early point spreads for next week - </p><p>&nbsp;</p><table border="0" cellspacing="8" cellpadding="4" width="580"><tbody><tr><td width="26%"><strong>Date &amp; Time</strong></td> <td width="28%"><strong>Favorite</strong></td> <td width="18%"><strong>Spread</strong></td> <td width="28%"><strong>Underdog</strong></td> </tr> <tr> <td>1/13 4:30 ET</td> <td>At Baltimore</td> <td>-4</td> <td>Indianapolis</td> </tr> <tr> <td>1/13 8:00 ET</td> <td>At New Orleans</td> <td>-5</td> <td>Philadelphia</td> </tr> <tr> <td>1/14 1:00 ET</td> <td>At Chicago</td> <td>-9</td> <td>Seattle</td> </tr> <tr> <td>1/14 4:30 ET</td> <td>At San Diego</td> <td>-5</td> <td>New England</td></tr></tbody></table><p>&nbsp;</p>

[HBox]

ESPNNEWS is saying Bobby Petrino is the new Falcons coach.

[Bueller]

<strong>Bama</strong> wrote:<br>The Colts and Patriots are gonna be playing in two weeks. Exciting stuff.<p></p> Dig it

[lleeder]

<strong>Bueller</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Bama</strong> wrote:<br />The Colts and Patriots are gonna be playing in two weeks. Exciting stuff. <p>&nbsp;</p><strong>Dig it</strong> <p>I'll bet dollars to donuts the Colts don't make it</p><p><img src="http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/Simpsons_Donuts-l.jpg" border="0" width="392" height="552" /></p>

[Fallon]

<img src="http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h281/WWFallon/RoBenoit.jpg" border="0" />

[Kevin]

FALLON WINS!

[Freakshow]

What on Earth have the Bears done to warrant being 9 point favorites? I might be putting some money on that. They weren't even good enough last year to make to the game to get their butts kicked my Seattle.

[TonyRomo]

You guys are dicks.

[Tenbatsuzen]

<strong>TonyRomo</strong> wrote:<br />You guys are dicks.<p>&nbsp;</p><p>Wait til you find out that Carrie Underwood is getting railed by Brady.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Freakshow</strong> wrote:<br />What on Earth have the Bears done to warrant being 9 point favorites? I might be putting some money on that. They weren't even good enough last year to make to the game to get their butts kicked my Seattle. <p>probably b/c seattle hasnt played well this year, ijuries and all and the fact that they're only on their way to chi town b/c of tony homo</p>

[Dan 'Hampton]

<strong>Tenbatsuzen</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>TonyRomo</strong> wrote:<br />You guys are dicks.<p>&nbsp;</p><p>Wait til you find out that Carrie Underwood is getting railed by Brady.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;She is far below Brady's level.&nbsp; Maybe as a drunken fling while passing through the deep south but thats it.</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>dschef</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Tenbatsuzen</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>TonyRomo</strong> wrote:<br />You guys are dicks. <p>&nbsp;</p><p>Wait til you find out that Carrie Underwood is getting railed by Brady.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;She is far below Brady's level.&nbsp; Maybe as a drunken fling while passing through the deep south but thats it.</p><p>i thought she was banging romo</p><p>oh well how the mighty or not so mighty have fallen </p>

[Gvac]

<p>The NFL announced the 17 finalists for the Hall of Fame - </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><span class="body"> To be elected, a finalist must receive a minimum positive vote of 80 percent.<br /> <br /> Listed alphabetically, the 17 finalists with their positions, teams, and years active follow:<br /> <br /> <strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=261">Fred Dean</a></strong> - Defensive End - 1975-1981 San Diego Chargers, 1981-1985 San Francisco 49ers<br /> <strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=240">Richard Dent</a></strong> - Defensive End - 1983-1993, 1995 Chicago Bears, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1996 Indianapolis Colts, 1997 Philadelphia Eagles<br /> <strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=244">Russ Grimm</a></strong> - Guard - 1981-1991 Washington Redskins<br /> <strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=262">Ray Guy</a></strong> - Punter - 1973-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders<br /> <strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=263">Gene Hickerson</a></strong> - Guard - 1958-1973 Cleveland Browns<br /> <strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=246">Michael Irvin</a></strong> - Wide Receiver - 1988-1999 Dallas Cowboys<br /> <strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=247">Bob Kuechenberg</a></strong> - Guard - 1970-1984 Miami Dolphins<br /> <strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=264">Bruce Matthews</a></strong> - Guard, Tackle, Center - 1983-2001 Houston Oilers/Tennessee Oilers/Titans<br /> <strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=248">Art Monk</a></strong> - Wide Receiver - 1980-1993 Washington Redskins, 1994 New York Jets, 1995 Philadelphia Eagles<br /> <strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=265">Andre Reed</a></strong> - Wide Receiver - 1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington Redskins<br /> <strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=266">Charlie Sanders</a></strong> - Tight End - 1968-1977 Detroit Lions<br /> <strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=267">Paul Tagliabue</a></strong> - NFL Commissioner - 1989-2006<br /> <strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=249">Derrick Thomas</a></strong> - Linebacker - 1989-1999 Kansas City Chiefs<br /> <strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=253">Thurman Thomas</a></strong> - Running Back - 1988-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Miami Dolphins<br /> <strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.profootball

[cougarjake13]

[quote]<strong>Gvac</strong> wrote:<br /><p>The NFL announced the 17 finalists for the Hall of Fame - </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><span class="body">To be elected, a finalist must receive a minimum positive vote of 80 percent.<br /><br />Listed alphabetically, the 17 finalists with their positions, teams, and years active follow:<br /><br /><strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" width="9" height="9" />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=261">Fred Dean</a></strong> - Defensive End - 1975-1981 San Diego Chargers, 1981-1985 San Francisco 49ers<br /><strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" width="9" height="9" />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=240">Richard Dent</a></strong> - Defensive End - 1983-1993, 1995 Chicago Bears, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1996 Indianapolis Colts, 1997 Philadelphia Eagles<br /><strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" width="9" height="9" />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=244">Russ Grimm</a></strong> - Guard - 1981-1991 Washington Redskins<br /><strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" width="9" height="9" />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=262">Ray Guy</a></strong> - Punter - 1973-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders<br /><strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" width="9" height="9" />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=263">Gene Hickerson</a></strong> - Guard - 1958-1973 Cleveland Browns<br /><strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" width="9" height="9" />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=246">Michael Irvin</a></strong> - Wide Receiver - 1988-1999 Dallas Cowboys<br /><strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" width="9" height="9" />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=247">Bob Kuechenberg</a></strong> - Guard - 1970-1984 Miami Dolphins<br /><strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" width="9" height="9" />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=264">Bruce Matthews</a></strong> - Guard, Tackle, Center - 1983-2001 Houston Oilers/Tennessee Oilers/Titans<br /><strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" width="9" height="9" />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=248">Art Monk</a></strong> - Wide Receiver - 1980-1993 Washington Redskins, 1994 New York Jets, 1995 Philadelphia Eagles<br /><strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" width="9" height="9" />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=265">Andre Reed</a></strong> - Wide Receiver - 1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington Redskins<br /><strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" width="9" height="9" />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=266">Charlie Sanders</a></strong> - Tight End - 1968-1977 Detroit Lions<br /><strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" width="9" height="9" />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=267">Paul Tagliabue</a></strong> - NFL Commissioner - 1989-2006<br /><strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" width="9" height="9" />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=249">Derrick Thomas</a></strong> - Linebacker - 1989-1999 Kansas City Chiefs<br /><strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" w

[TheGameHHH]

<p>Monk needs to go to the Hall</p><p>15 mins until a weekend full of playoff football, anybody else excited?&nbsp;</p>

[nevnut]

The only reason I'm sittin' at the computer is 'cause I'm waitin' for the game to start.

[Jughead]

I live between Indy and Chicago..Alot going on here we are excited!!!!!!!!!!!!....GO BEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheGameHHH]

i put 10 bucks on the Colts to win straight up, i figure its a win-win for me. i hate the colts so if they lose ill be happy, but if they win ill win some money. everyone on the cbs pre-game show picked baltimore.

[weekapaugjz]

[quote]<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br />[quote]<strong>Gvac</strong> wrote:<br /><p>The NFL announced the 17 finalists for the Hall of Fame - </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><span class="body">To be elected, a finalist must receive a minimum positive vote of 80 percent.<br /><br />Listed alphabetically, the 17 finalists with their positions, teams, and years active follow:<br /><br /><strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" width="9" height="9" /> <a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=261">Fred Dean</a></strong> - Defensive End - 1975-1981 San Diego Chargers, 1981-1985 San Francisco 49ers<br /><strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" width="9" height="9" /> <a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=240">Richard Dent</a></strong> - Defensive End - 1983-1993, 1995 Chicago Bears, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1996 Indianapolis Colts, 1997 Philadelphia Eagles<br /><strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" width="9" height="9" /> <a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=244">Russ Grimm</a></strong> - Guard - 1981-1991 Washington Redskins<br /><strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" width="9" height="9" /> <a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=262">Ray Guy</a></strong> - Punter - 1973-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders<br /><strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" width="9" height="9" /> <a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=263">Gene Hickerson</a></strong> - Guard - 1958-1973 Cleveland Browns<br /><strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" width="9" height="9" /> <a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=246">Michael Irvin</a></strong> - Wide Receiver - 1988-1999 Dallas Cowboys<br /><strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" width="9" height="9" /> <a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=247">Bob Kuechenberg</a></strong> - Guard - 1970-1984 Miami Dolphins<br /><strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" width="9" height="9" /> <a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=264">Bruce Matthews</a></strong> - Guard, Tackle, Center - 1983-2001 Houston Oilers/Tennessee Oilers/Titans<br /><strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" width="9" height="9" /> <a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=248">Art Monk</a></strong> - Wide Receiver - 1980-1993 Washington Redskins, 1994 New York Jets, 1995 Philadelphia Eagles<br /><strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" width="9" height="9" /> <a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=265">Andre Reed</a></strong> - Wide Receiver - 1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington Redskins<br /><strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" width="9" height="9" /> <a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=266">Charlie Sanders</a></strong> - Tight End - 1968-1977 Detroit Lions<br /><strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" width="9" height="9" /> <a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=267">Paul Tagliabue</a></strong> - NFL Commissioner - 1989-2006<br /><strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" width="9" height="9" /> <a href="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=249">Derrick Thomas</a></strong> - Linebacker - 1989-1999 Kansas City Chiefs<br /><strong><img src="http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif" border="0" hspace="2" width=

[DJEvelEd]

<p>Any player with a ring, who was a dominant player on that superbowl team should automatically get in. That would include Irvin, Dent, Guy, Grimm and Monk. Maybe Dean.</p><p>Thurman Thomas was a great player and should have won a superbowl. He is a fumble and a TD short of getting in.</p><p>Tagliabue&nbsp;should have to wait a few years unless commisioners automatically get in...</p>

[BoondockSaint]

Manning looks like shit again.

[TheGameHHH]

Colts are up 6 at the half.

[whiskyriver]

<strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br>Manning looks like shit
again.<p></p>
and why wouldn't he?????

it's the playoffs

[TheGameHHH]

Colts up 9 at the end of the 3rd.

[whiskyriver]

6

[Kevin]

Peyrod does it again!

[whiskyriver]

Manning = puthy

[Freakshow]

<strong>TheGameHHH</strong> wrote:<br>i put 10 bucks on the Colts to win straight up, i figure its a win-win for me. i hate the colts so if they lose ill be happy, but if they win ill win some money. everyone on the cbs pre-game show picked baltimore. <p></p>

I did the same exact thing last week. I put money on the Colts, and then cheered like hell for KC. I completely forgot about the bet until the next day when I got word that I had won.

[BoondockSaint]

Dan Dierdorf is the worst.

[Jughead]

Go colts!!&nbsp; Shit time out??

[Jughead]

Dallas&nbsp; LIVES!!!!!!!!

[Freakshow]

The NFL is rigged.

[whiskyriver]

i hate the colts,but they played one hell of a game

[Jughead]

White people are so scared of Black people....

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by jughead46041 on 1-13-07 @ 7:35 PM</span>

[whiskyriver]

<strong>jughead46041</strong> wrote:<br>White people are so scared
of Black people....

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by jughead46041 on 1-13-07
@ 7:35 PM</span><p></p>

Just the ones that look like they came from outer space.......and coach the colts

[Jughead]

Who do we like in the second game???

[Bulldogcakes]

That was an AWFUL NFL playoff game. Setting records for futility, again. Gotta love the parity system.

[TheGameHHH]

<p>at least i won my bet</p><p>i like the saints in the second game, but not enough to bet on them. &nbsp;</p>

[Jughead]

True..Lets hope the second game..Well has some scoring and Big plays!!<br /> <strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br />That was an AWFUL NFL playoff game. Setting records for futility, again. Gotta love the parity system. <p>&nbsp;</p>

[Jughead]

I work in&nbsp; lafayette Indiana..Anyone know what that has to do with the second game????Oh shit here it come's the hayseed stuff....Quit!!!!!! other than that!!!!!!!!!

[Bama]

<p>Please baby Jesus let the Saints win this game.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>WHO DAT???</p>

[Bama]

<strong>Bama</strong> wrote:<br />The Colts and Patriots are gonna be playing in two weeks. Exciting stuff. <p>It's not Sunday yet but we all know this is gonna happen now. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>The NFL IS rigged. Manning will finally win it all.</p>

[TheGameHHH]

<strong>Bama</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Bama</strong> wrote:<br />The Colts and Patriots are gonna be playing in two weeks. Exciting stuff. <p>It's not Sunday yet but we all know this is gonna happen now. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>The NFL IS rigged. Manning will finally win it all.</p><p>&nbsp;i also have a bad feeling that this is Mannings year too, it frightens me to even think about it. </p>

[Jughead]

Duce!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jughead]

Philly can HIT!!!!!!!!

[Bama]

<p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;GEAUX SAINTS!!!!</p><p>3-0</p><p><img src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5307/2674/320/Be%20a%20saint.jpg" border="0" alt="Saints" title="Saints" width="320" height="240" /></p>

[lleeder]

Did you see that blond that they just showed with a &quot;Fuck Da Eagles&quot; shirt? How does that get on tv?

[Jughead]

Shit missed it!!

[Bama]

FUCK

[Bama]

<p>YES!!!</p><p>REGGIE!</p>

[TheGameHHH]

14-13 Eagles with 52 seconds left in the 2nd.

[Arch Stanton]

<p>Text book touchdown! He is on fire.</p><p>And, on my Birthday to boot!</p>

[Bama]

<p>Fuck da Eagles</p>

[cowbell_killer]

<p>why not go for 2...poor decision.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>go eagles<img src="/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/bye.gif" border="0" width="26" height="18" /></p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by cowbell_killer on 1-13-07 @ 10:13 PM</span>

[Bama]

I don't like chasing points so I'm cool with it. Especially with a quarter and a half to go.

[Bama]

<p>Deuce!</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[cowbell_killer]

philly needs a strong drive here.&nbsp; Put the ball in Westbrooks hands.

[cowbell_killer]

what the hell!!!! this is right in the middle of our drive.&nbsp; This is bullshit.&nbsp; Not to be hard-hearted but fuck them kids.

[Bama]

<p>NOT IN OUR HOUSE!</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Kick your field goal bitches.</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Bama on 1-13-07 @ 10:43 PM</span>

[TheGameHHH]

this has been a much better game than the one earlier

[cowbell_killer]

<p>yea this game is a real</p><p>well...imagine a picture of a girl biting on metal nails....i stink</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by cowbell_killer on 1-13-07 @ 10:56 PM</span>

[JeremiahTrotter]

My team needs to learn how to tackle. I should sack my own team!

[Bama]

<p>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[cowbell_killer]

Oh MY sweet lord in heaven.&nbsp; Thank you.. thank you.thank you...please bring the hammer right now!

[Bama]

<p>FALSE START!!!!</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>WAY TO GO SAINTS FANS!</p>

[cowbell_killer]

WHAT! PUNT! ARE YOU NUTS....WE'll Never get the ball back

[Bama]

<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">One first down please.</font></p>

[sailor]

<strong>cowbell_killer</strong> wrote:<br />WHAT! PUNT! ARE YOU NUTS....WE'll Never get the ball back<p>&nbsp;<font size="2">how do you punt down 3 with under two minutes left??!?<br /></font></p>

[Bama]

<p>I think I'm going to cry.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Freakshow]

I think I might have a man-crush on McAllister.


DEUCEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[cowbell_killer]

congrats.&nbsp; I hope the saint get to the superbowl.&nbsp; They Deserve it with the season the put together.&nbsp; Good game and good luck saints and saints fans.

[lleeder]

<font size="3">Congrats Bama and all you Saints fans. Hope they keep winning.</font>

[johnniewalker]

<strong>sailor</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>cowbell_killer</strong> wrote:<br />WHAT! PUNT! ARE YOU NUTS....WE'll Never get the ball back<p> <font size="2">how do you punt down 3 with under two minutes left??!?<br /></font></p><p>&nbsp;They have to tear that call apart, I would much rather bank on a 4th and 15.&nbsp; I think every packer fan remembers a 4th and 23 against the eagles in the playoffs. </p>

[Sarge]

Go Saints.

[Kevin]

<p>WHO DAT!!!!</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>NOT PHILLY!!!</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Congrats to Bama and the Saints fans....Although i can not stand it when they show that buffoon two faced owner of theirs celebrating. He was ready to back stab that whole city and move the team to SA. I hate that douche.&nbsp;</p>

[Gvac]

I can't wait for today's Chargers-Patriots game.&nbsp; I think it's the marquee game of the postseason.&nbsp; The only interest I have in the Bears-Seahawks is whether Grossman gets pulled or not.&nbsp;

[lleeder]

<p>I agree with you Gvac. I kinda feel like I havent seen a really good team yet in the playoffs. There have been good games but Im looking for a team that I really think can win this whole thing. I feel like the Pats or San Diego can be that.</p>

[TheGameHHH]

<strong>Gvac</strong> wrote:<br />I can't wait for today's Chargers-Patriots game. I think it's the marquee game of the postseason. The only interest I have in the Bears-Seahawks is whether Grossman gets pulled or not. <p>i hope it lives up to the hype. as a Pats fan i cant describe the feeling i have going into this game, its like half nervous and half confident. the Pats havent faced a team of this caliber in a long time, they will need to play perfect football to win but they are capable of winning.&nbsp; </p>

[nevnut]

<p>My fingers are crossed for Seahawks and Chargers.</p><p>Hopin' for a West Coast Super Bowl!!</p>

[lleeder]

<strong>nevnut</strong> wrote:<br /><p>My fingers are crossed for Seahawks and Chargers.</p><p>Hopin' for a West Coast Super Bowl!!</p><p>Damn Westies!!! Go East coast!!!</p><span class="post_edited"></span>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by lleeder on 1-14-07 @ 12:58 PM</span>

[nevnut]

<strong>lleeder</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>nevnut</strong> wrote:<br /><p>My fingers are crossed for Seahawks and Chargers.</p><p>Hopin' for a West Coast Super Bowl!!</p><p>Damn Westies!!! Go East coast!!!</p><span class="post_edited"></span><span class="post_edited">This message was edited by lleeder on 1-14-07 @ 12:58 PM</span> <p>The last West Coast Super Bowl and the last time my time was worth a shit!</p><p><table border="0" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="bg2"><td align="center">XXIX</td><td>Jan. 29, 1995</td><td><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/history/boxscores/game/sbxxix"><font color="#003e6e">San Francisco 49, San Diego 26</font></a></td></tr></tbody></table></p>

[johnniewalker]

Nice pass from grossman, wow.&nbsp;&nbsp;

[nevnut]

This game is gonna suck!

[cougarjake13]

<strong>nevnut</strong> wrote:<br />This game is gonna suck! <p>hey at least we're seeing some touchdowns today</p>

[cougarjake13]

<p>ken whisenhunt</p><p>your new cardinals head coach</p><p><a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6369102">http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6369102</a></p><p>this is a much better choice than the horrendous raider job he was offered last year, good for him to not just take anything that came up</p>

[Freakshow]

Yeah. Jay Glazer broke that story on the pregame. He also said Cower didn't endorse Wisenhunt or Grimm. Chan Gailey might be the next Stiller's coach.

[DJEvelEd]

<p>Did the announcer just ask what cleat size is bigger, 1/2 or 5/8?</p><p>What a total idiot!!! That's just embarassing.</p>

[Freakshow]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br><strong>nevnut</strong> wrote:<br />This game is gonna suck! <p>hey at least we're seeing some touchdowns today</p><p></p>

Way to go jinxy. Both offenses stalled as soon as you posted that.

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Freakshow</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>nevnut</strong> wrote:<br />This game is gonna suck! <p>hey at least we're seeing some touchdowns today</p><p>&nbsp;</p>Way to go jinxy. Both offenses stalled as soon as you posted that. <p>haha nice</p><p>for my next feet </p><p>there hasnt been any int's yet </p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>DJEvelEd</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Did the announcer just ask what cleat size is bigger, 1/2 or 5/8?</p><p>What a total idiot!!! That's just embarassing.</p><p>whaddya expect from joe schmuck buck ??</p>

[DJEvelEd]

<p>I once knew a girl with a 5/8 inch cleat.</p><p>She also smelled like sheat.&nbsp;</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>DJEvelEd</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I once knew a girl with a 5/8 inch cleat.</p><p>She also smelled like sheat.&nbsp;</p><p>was it b/c of the pleat in her seat ???</p>

[sailor]

<font size="2">two in a row.&nbsp; looks like hester might be getting the yips.<br /></font>

[FartyPneumonia]

<p>&nbsp;i want to see the Chargers&nbsp; that should be a good game</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Gvac]

<p>SHOCKING!</p><p>A Grossman turnover!&nbsp;</p>

[Freakshow]

Bears are having trouble keeping a hold of the ball. It's going to cost them at some point.

[DJEvelEd]

<p><strong>haha nice</strong></p><p><strong>for my next feet </strong></p><p><strong>there hasnt been any int's yet</strong> </p>You shoulda just said turnover.

[cougarjake13]

<p>i wrote in my prediction above int's but i had fumbles also but took it out b/c of hesters fumble</p><p>oh well i shoulda left it in</p>

[sailor]

<strong>FartyPneumonia</strong> wrote:<br /><p> i want to see the Chargers that should be a good game</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;<font size="2">i hope they rout the pats.<br /></font></p>

[sailor]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><p>i wrote in my prediction above int's but i had fumbles also but took it out b/c of hesters fumble</p><p>oh well i shoulda left it in</p><p>&nbsp;<font size="2">both of hester's were technically muffs, so you should have left it in.<br /></font></p>

[Freakshow]

Alexander spent so much time being hurt this year, I think everyone forgot he was the #2 running back in the league. Maybe even #1.

[cougarjake13]

<strong>sailor</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><p>i wrote in my prediction above int's but i had fumbles also but took it out b/c of hesters fumble</p><p>oh well i shoulda left it in</p><p>&nbsp;<font size="2">both of hester's were technically muffs, so you should have left it in.<br /></font></p><p>yeh i guess</p><p>i know it was 4th and inches but thats a gutsy call not taking the 3 points</p>

[nevnut]

<strong>nevnut</strong> wrote:<br />This game is gonna suck! <p>I take that back.</p><p>This game is turnin' around for the Hawks.</p><p>Thanx Grossman!!</p>

[epo]

Did Holmgren just show Lovie Smith his nuts?&nbsp; TD Seattle.&nbsp;

[Freakshow]

Did you just quote yourself?

I thought Alexander got a bad spot on 3rd anyway. Plus that play should have a been a loss, and he bulled his way to within inches of a first, you have to figure he's going to get the inch on 4th down.

Bears are really missing Tommy Harris right now...

[sailor]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>sailor</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><p>i wrote in my prediction above int's but i had fumbles also but took it out b/c of hesters fumble</p><p>oh well i shoulda left it in</p><p> <font size="2">both of hester's were technically muffs, so you should have left it in.<br /></font></p><p>yeh i guess</p><p>i know it was 4th and inches but thats a gutsy call not taking the 3 points</p><p>&nbsp;<font size="2">yeah, it appears the rosacea hasn't affected his balls. </font></p>

[nevnut]

<strong>Freakshow</strong> wrote:<br />Did you just quote yourself? <p>Yes, is that against the rules??</p>

[sailor]

<strong>Freakshow</strong> wrote:<br />Did you just quote yourself? I thought Alexander got a bad spot on 3rd anyway. Plus that play should have a been a loss, and he bulled his way to within inches of a first, you have to figure he's going to get the inch on 4th down. Bears are really missing Tommy Harris right now...<p>&nbsp;<font size="2">yes, nevnut did.&nbsp; it's a ballsy move, but he pulled it off with class.<br /></font></p>

[johnniewalker]

<p>There can be no flag if the quaterback is out of the pocket.</p><p>Joe Buck:&nbsp; The question is was the quarterback out of the pocket.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>NICE!&nbsp;</p>

[sailor]

<font size="2">wow, did davis just receive a reach-around on that tackle?<br /></font>

[BoondockSaint]

What are all these things called &quot;Touchdowns?&quot;

[nevnut]

<strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br />What are all these things called &quot;Touchdowns?&quot; <p>Same things as &quot;Home Runs&quot;</p>

[Kevin]

<p>And... </p><p>'Goals&quot;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Its some kind of sports Crazy talk.&nbsp;</p>

[DJEvelEd]

OK What the fuck is the pressure release valve on Lovie's jacket?!?

[Freakshow]

yes. THROW TO ENGRAM. He might be a little extra motivated to play against the team that drafted him, then cut him for David freakin' Terrell.

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Freakshow</strong> wrote:<br />yes. THROW TO ENGRAM. He might be a little extra motivated to play against the team that drafted him, then cut him for David freakin' Terrell. <p>i wonder where the fuck david terrell is now </p>

[epo]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Freakshow</strong> wrote:<br />yes. THROW TO ENGRAM. He might be a little extra motivated to play against the team that drafted him, then cut him for David freakin' Terrell. <p>i wonder where the fuck david terrell is now </p><p>Watching the game and dreading going to work tomorrow?&nbsp; </p>

[DJEvelEd]

<p>This is what Grossman gets for smiling &amp; laughing for 15 minutes after that one TD throw. </p><p>Let's not start sucking each others dicks just yet Rex.</p>

[nevnut]

<p>I'm tryin' to remodel the kids room and watch the fuckin' game at the same time.</p><p>I think the remodelin' is gonna take a rest for a few!</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>epo</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Freakshow</strong> wrote:<br />yes. THROW TO ENGRAM. He might be a little extra motivated to play against the team that drafted him, then cut him for David freakin' Terrell. <p>i wonder where the fuck david terrell is now </p><p>Watching the game and dreading going to work tomorrow?&nbsp; </p><p>prob he hasnt played since 04, he's listed as suiting up for one game in 05 for denver</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>DJEvelEd</strong> wrote:<br /><p>This is what Grossman gets for smiling &amp; laughing for 15 minutes after that one TD throw. </p><p>Let's not start sucking each others dicks just yet Rex.</p><p>why ??</p><p>its the only completions he consistently makes</p>