2006 Yankees part 2 (The inevitible, unstoppable march to tee times [Archive]

Bulldogcakes

08-28-2006, 02:33 PM

Last thread was getting huge, we'll continue here <strike> </strike> 

This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 10-6-06 @ 10:48 PM

HBox

08-28-2006, 02:35 PM

I must have missed New York Yankees 2006 Part 2: Electric Bugaloo.EDIT: Great, edit the title so I look like the jackass. <img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/mad.gif" /> 

This message was edited by HBox on 8-28-06 @ 6:35 PM

Tenbatsuzen

08-28-2006, 02:38 PM

I swear to god BDC, edit the fucking title to just "New York Yankees 2006 Part 2" or I'll fucking bite your face. I am not kidding.  We've already had issues of karma biting us on the ass on this board.  Don't push it.   

This message was edited by Tenbatsuzen on 8-28-06 @ 6:42 PM

Bulldogcakes

08-28-2006, 02:42 PM

Sorry H. But I caught it before you did.  Anybody else hear about A-Rod calling in the famous college coach (Who's name escapes me) to give him a motivational speech?  And how he stayed at the ballpark for an hour w/Mattingly doing batting practice after the 4 strikeout game?All I want from Torre is to move him to the 6 hole. He's leaving a small army on the bases, especially with the way Damon Jeter and Abreau are getting on base. I think he will once the playoffs start if he doesn't straighten himself out. But actually I fear he'll do just enough to stay there, then cost us a game or two in October.

TheGameHHH

08-28-2006, 02:42 PM

let's try and get this one locked by late September.

Bulldogcakes

08-28-2006, 02:42 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: I swear to god BDC, edit the fucking title to just "New York Yankees 2006 Part 2" or I'll fucking bite your face. I am not kidding. Hahahahahah! Dont be so superstitious. Honestly, I'm very confident about this group. Plus I just wanted to tweak the many Yankee haters around here. All in good fun.      

This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 8-28-06 @ 6:46 PM

TheGameHHH

08-28-2006, 02:43 PM

Wasn't the coach Wooden?

Bulldogcakes

08-28-2006, 02:44 PM

Thank you. I dont watch much college, but I know it was one of the legends.

Tenbatsuzen

08-28-2006, 02:48 PM

Bulldogcakes wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: I swear to god BDC, edit the fucking title to just "New York Yankees 2006 Part 2" or I'll fucking bite your face. I am not kidding. Hahahahahah! Dont be so superstitious. Honestly, I'm very confident about this group. Plus I just wanted to tweak the many Yankee haters around here. All in good fun. 

    Do you remember Stugots posting "Ha ha!"?  DON'T TEMPT FATE.  And what happens if they lose?  Then you look like a cockface.

HBox

08-28-2006, 02:53 PM

<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2564345" target="_blank">Pavano suffers two broken ribs.</a>New York general manager Brian Cashman said Monday that Pavano
has made three rehab starts with the rib injury. He disclosed it to
the team Saturday after feeling discomfort in his most recent minor
league outing.

"Of course I'm angry," Cashman said, adding that "it's
extremely frustrating" and "it's extremely disappointing."

Cashman still hopes Pavano would be able to pitch in the major
leagues this season. Pavano is to have another medical checkup
Tuesday.

"We have had players play with this issue before," he said.He better.

Don Stugots

08-28-2006, 02:54 PM

my HA HA was for the injuries that they had to deal with.  that was mainly because of the haters giggling with glee as the yanks had to rebuild on the fly with their own injuries and are/were pulling it off.  BDC, leave it as is.  nothing like being arrogant even if the yanks do lose.

Bulldogcakes

08-28-2006, 02:58 PM

Noooooo Stu. THe haters call it arrogance. We call it "Confidence"And TB, maybe thats so. But if I'm right I'll look like a genius.Plus I toned it down. My first title was "The 2006 Yankee steamroller toward our 27th ring"       actually, I didn't tone it down. It just didn't fit 

      

This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 8-28-06 @ 7:01 PM

HBox

08-28-2006, 03:00 PM

But if I'm right I'll look like a genius.Yeah, there aren't ever too many people picking the Yanks to win it all Nostradamus.

HBox

08-28-2006, 03:02 PM

What the fuck is a steamrooler?EDIT:Motherfucker you beat me again. 

This message was edited by HBox on 8-28-06 @ 7:03 PM

TheGameHHH

08-28-2006, 03:11 PM

Let's all get together, take a trip to the bronx and go punch Pavano right in the face. I'm tired of this dude's shit.

Tenbatsuzen

08-28-2006, 03:12 PM

TheGameHHH wrote: Let's all get together, take a trip to the bronx and go punch Pavano right in the face. I'm tired of this dude's shit.    That would be hard, considering he's in COLUMBUS.

Tenbatsuzen

08-28-2006, 03:13 PM

My theory for Pavano's injury... Either he DUI'ed or was driving recklessly and got away with it... or....  sex with a 400 lbs woman. Either way, I can see why he didn't want to admit it. Hbox, can you agree that Bernie is playing better this year than he did last year?

Don Stugots

08-28-2006, 03:17 PM

if Hbox wont agree with you then i will.  clutch hits, etc.

This message was edited by STUGOTS1 on 8-28-06 @ 7:17 PM

HBox

08-28-2006, 03:17 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: My theory for Pavano's injury... Either he DUI'ed or was driving recklessly and got away with it... or.... sex with a 400 lbs woman. Either way, I can see why he didn't want to admit it. Hbox, can you agree that Bernie is playing better this year than he did last year?   With the bat, absolutely. In the field though he is worse, as if that was possible. Maybe they should check his Little Rascal and make sure the battery is fully charged.

Bulldogcakes

08-28-2006, 03:20 PM

Yeah, I love Bernie. But I've gotten used to having Melky out there actually throwing guys out at second and home. Something I haven't seen in years. And with Abreau we actually have an outfield that the whole league wont run all over.

HBox

08-28-2006, 03:32 PM

zildjian361

08-28-2006, 03:41 PM

CONFIDENCE that's what it's all about. i have 8 AL EAST CHAMPION t shirts in a row 9 is just the start of the march to #27. <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/wink.gif" border="0" />

This message was edited by zildjian361 on 8-28-06 @ 7:44 PM

spoon

08-28-2006, 03:51 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  Bulldogcakes wrote:  Tenbatsuzen wrote: I swear to god BDC, edit the fucking title to just "New York Yankees 2006 Part 2" or I'll fucking bite your face. I am not kidding.   Hahahahahah! Dont be so superstitious. Honestly, I'm very confident about this group. Plus I just wanted to tweak the many Yankee haters around here. All in good fun.              Do you remember Stugots posting "Ha ha!"?  DON'T TEMPT FATE.  And what happens if they lose?  Then you look like a cockface.  Too late.

Don Stugots

08-28-2006, 03:52 PM

for matty or for BDC?  or me?

Tenbatsuzen

08-28-2006, 03:54 PM

HBox wrote: <img border="0" src="http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7607/bscooterqe7.jpg" />   Brilliant.  When we will see him and Wilford Brimley talking abotu Quaker Oatmeal?

spoon

08-28-2006, 03:57 PM

Bulldogcakes wrote:  Noooooo Stu. THe haters call it arrogance. We call it "Confidence"And TB, maybe thats so. But if I'm right I'll look like a genius.Plus I toned it down. My first title was "The 2006 Yankee steamroller toward our 27th ring"         actually, I didn't tone it down. It just didn't fit       This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 8-28-06 @ 7:01 PM You see bitchcakes, it's not even the fucking yanks any longer, it's you in particular.  You act as though your on or own the fucking team.  Even with the money they have, if you ran it, it would be a fucking train wreck the way you react to situations on the team.  Your like the fat, non-athletic dad living through his son with the fucking yankees.  Go play with a bulldog's nuts or something bc this line of talk is just getting comical.

spoon

08-28-2006, 03:59 PM

STUGOTS1 wrote: for matty or for BDC?  or me? BDC of course.

spoon

08-28-2006, 04:00 PM

And I meant you're.

Marc with a c

08-28-2006, 04:10 PM

part 2 update.i hate the yankees.  yankee plane is going down.

HBox

08-28-2006, 04:31 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: HBox wrote: <img border="0" src="http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7607/bscooterqe7.jpg" /> Brilliant. When we will see him and Wilford Brimley talking abotu Quaker Oatmeal?  <img width="300" height="399" border="0" src="http://www.southdakotabeefman.com/images/categories/C57.jpg" /> Do you run at the speed of an oiled hog? Do you have the the throwing arm of a diseased gazelle? Do you have the outfield range of FDR, post-polio? Then you might have DIE-AH-BEET-US.

Don Stugots

08-28-2006, 04:33 PM

spoon wrote: And I meant you're. from you i take it as a compliament.

TheMojoPin

08-28-2006, 06:10 PM

spoon wrote: Bulldogcakes wrote:  Noooooo Stu. THe haters call it arrogance. We call it "Confidence"And TB, maybe thats so. But if I'm right I'll look like a genius.Plus I toned it down. My first title was "The 2006 Yankee steamroller toward our 27th ring"         actually, I didn't tone it down. It just didn't fit       This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 8-28-06 @ 7:01 PM You see bitchcakes, it's not even the fucking yanks any longer, it's you in particular.  You act as though your on or own the fucking team.  Even with the money they have, if you ran it, it would be a fucking train wreck the way you react to situations on the team.  Your like the fat, non-athletic dad living through his son with the fucking yankees.  Go play with a bulldog's nuts or something bc this line of talk is just getting comical.So your problem with him today is he's rooting for his team, and doing it with some hyperbole?  Jesus fucking Christ, what do you want him to do, root in silence?  It's the Yankee thread, he's a Yankee fan.  You're a spaz and you're obsessed with how someone else is a fan of their team.  Un-fucking-clench.

spoon

08-28-2006, 10:52 PM

STUGOTS1 wrote: spoon wrote: And I meant you're. from you i take it as a compliament.I was correcting my own spelling (your/you're) asshole so now you should try the same. 

This message was edited by spoon on 8-29-06 @ 2:53 AM

spoon

08-28-2006, 10:53 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: spoon wrote: Bulldogcakes wrote:  Noooooo Stu. THe haters call it arrogance. We call it "Confidence"And TB, maybe thats so. But if I'm right I'll look like a genius.Plus I toned it down. My first title was "The 2006 Yankee steamroller toward our 27th ring"         actually, I didn't tone it down. It just didn't fit       This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 8-28-06 @ 7:01 PM You see bitchcakes, it's not even the fucking yanks any longer, it's you in particular.  You act as though your on or own the fucking team.  Even with the money they have, if you ran it, it would be a fucking train wreck the way you react to situations on the team.  Your like the fat, non-athletic dad living through his son with the fucking yankees.  Go play with a bulldog's nuts or something bc this line of talk is just getting comical.So your problem with him today is he's rooting for his team, and doing it with some hyperbole?  Jesus fucking Christ, what do you want him to do, root in silence?  It's the Yankee thread, he's a Yankee fan.  You're a spaz and you're obsessed with how someone else is a fan of their team.  Un-fucking-clench.He stated himself he's looking to piss off yankee haters and got the desired effect.  So fuck him too.

Don Stugots

08-29-2006, 01:36 AM

spoon wrote: STUGOTS1 wrote: spoon wrote: And I meant you're. from you i take it as a compliament.I was correcting my own spelling (your/you're) asshole so now you should try the same. This message was edited by spoon on 8-29-06 @ 2:53 AM asshole?  there's no reason to forget that you're a lady.  if you can't play nice, then don't play at all.

TheMojoPin

08-29-2006, 03:57 AM

spoon wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: spoon wrote: Bulldogcakes wrote:  Noooooo Stu. THe haters call it arrogance. We call it "Confidence"And TB, maybe thats so. But if I'm right I'll look like a genius.Plus I toned it down. My first title was "The 2006 Yankee steamroller toward our 27th ring"         actually, I didn't tone it down. It just didn't fit       This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 8-28-06 @ 7:01 PM You see bitchcakes, it's not even the fucking yanks any longer, it's you in particular.  You act as though your on or own the fucking team.  Even with the money they have, if you ran it, it would be a fucking train wreck the way you react to situations on the team.  Your like the fat, non-athletic dad living through his son with the fucking yankees.  Go play with a bulldog's nuts or something bc this line of talk is just getting comical.So your problem with him today is he's rooting for his team, and doing it with some hyperbole?  Jesus fucking Christ, what do you want him to do, root in silence?  It's the Yankee thread, he's a Yankee fan.  You're a spaz and you're obsessed with how someone else is a fan of their team.  Un-fucking-clench.He stated himself he's looking to piss off yankee haters and got the desired effect.  So fuck him too.  He mentioned it in general, which he has plenty right to (what fan doesn't want to piss off rival team fans?) and you, yet again, turn it into an ugly personal attack and diatribe.  We've been over this a thousand times...it's not funny, it's not cute and it serves no purpose except to insult another poster on this board as much as possible.  "Attack the post, not the poster."  He mentioned "Yankee haters" several times, yet you counter with attacking HIM specifically and as personally as possible.  Frankly, I don't care at this point whether or not you can't or won't see the difference.  Please tone it down.

A.J.

08-29-2006, 04:31 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: I swear to god BDC, edit the fucking title to just "New York Yankees 2006 Part 2" or I'll fucking bite your face. I am not kidding.  We've already had issues of karma biting us on the ass on this board.  Don't push it.With superstition like that you'd have made a hell of a Red Sox fan.

Tenbatsuzen

08-29-2006, 04:51 AM

Seven game lead, up 8 in the loss column.  Good morning, Yankee fans.

crb1

08-29-2006, 05:04 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Seven game lead, up 8 in the loss column.  Good morning, Yankee fans.Tigers in town tonight.  I think it should be a good series, although some of the young Detroit pitchers seem a little tired lately.  I heard a rumor that Detroit's first pick in the '06 draft (Andrew Miller) may start Thursday's game.  Anyone else hear this? Thinks don't look too good for the Sox.  Here's the latest bad news:<a href="http://redsox.bostonherald.com/redSox/view.bg?articleid=154929">http://redsox.bostonherald.com/redSox/view.bg?articleid=154929</a>Hope it's nothing serious.  As much as I can't stand to watch him hit against the Yanks, it's still no fun to see a guy benched because of something like this.  Without Manny and Ortiz, this team stands no chance of mounting a late season comeback.  The only way it could be worse for the Sox is if they'd signed Carl Pavano.

A.J.

08-29-2006, 05:06 AM

crb1 wrote: <blockquote />The only way it could be worse for the Sox is if they'd signed Carl Pavano.  Why?  They signed Matt Clement and Josh Beckett.

Tenbatsuzen

08-29-2006, 05:50 AM

Can someone find out for me all the MLB players Alyssa Milano fucked and how they performed after the fact?  I'm starting to sense a Winona Ryder parallel here.

A.J.

08-29-2006, 06:04 AM

Pavano, Barry Zito, Brad Penny.  Didn't she date a hockey player or two as well?

Tall_James

08-29-2006, 06:27 AM

ALYSSA MILANODated: Wayne McBean, former New York IslanderCall it puppy love, but way back in 1988 -- not too long after McBean was the fourth overall pick in the 1987 draft -- they were a hot couple. Milano was in the late years of the classic sitcom, "Who's the Boss," and McBean was toiling in the minor leagues. The romance lasted until 1990.  <div><div><img height="262" alt="Alyssa Milano, Barry Zito" src="http://espn-att.starwave.com/i/magazine/new/milano_zito.jpg" width="195" border="0" /> <div>Alyssa Milano has put a recent spell on Barry Zito.</div></div></div>Dated: <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5945">Carl Pavano</a>, free-agent pitcher  After Milano had her fill of actors and the like in the 1990s, she connected with Pavano in the fall of 2003. They were first spotted at a NYC club after his Marlins defeated the Yankees in the World Series. The pair was inseparable for the next six months, with the "Charmed" actress showing up at many of his games. Something went amiss in June of 2004 -- he blamed the high-profile nature of the relationship -- sparing the world of this tongue twister: Alyssa Milano-Pavano.Dating: <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6394">Barry Zito</a>, A's pitcherTalk about a hankering for Italian baseball pitchers: Only months after the split with Pavano, Milano was cuddling up to the A's lefty. While tadpoling -- she's 33, he's 26 -- this couple began making the scene in the summer of 2004 at several high-profile Hollywood events. Then, in the fall, they were on the sidelines together for a USC-Arizona game. And now you know he's gone Hollywood: Thanksgiving week, the pair attended a gala in Beverly Hills. If, by the grace of some higher power, Pavano (a free agent) winds up on the A's next season ...

Tenbatsuzen

08-29-2006, 06:56 AM

I do believe we have a trend. Fortunately, given her tastes, it looks like she'll stay away from the Yankees and Mets for the near future. Bell?  Please?

OGC

08-29-2006, 07:10 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: My theory for Pavano's injury...Either he DUI'ed or was driving recklessly and got away with it...or....sex with a 400 lbs woman.Either way, I can see why he didn't want to admit it.Maybe he was watching porn and jackin' off while he was driving.

Bulldogcakes

08-29-2006, 01:55 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: I do believe we have a trend. Fortunately, given her tastes, it looks like she'll stay away from the Yankees and Mets for the near future.   Italian baseball players . . . .hmm . . . . think she'd like Fasano?   Hello?    Is this thing on?

Don Stugots

08-29-2006, 01:56 PM

*bump*the sun shall never set on the yankee empire.

Bulldogcakes

08-29-2006, 02:06 PM

spoon wrote:He stated himself he's looking to piss off yankee haters and got the desired effect. So fuck him too.  Here's what I actually wroteI just wanted to tweak the many Yankee haters around here. All in good fun.   A good natured poke aimed at those who can take it, which obviously doesn't apply to Spoon. But I think most people know at this point that when you're dealing with someone a blind obsessive hatred, you consider the source. Last week he accused me of being a child molester. So I guess this is an improvement.   <blockquote />

outlawfrank

08-29-2006, 02:12 PM

crb1 wrote: Tigers in town tonight.  I think it should be a good series, although some of the young Detroit pitchers seem a little tired lately.  I heard a rumor that Detroit's first pick in the '06 draft (Andrew Miller) may start Thursday's game.  Anyone else hear this? They did call him up, but only for relief work.  For him to start in the middle of a pennant chase, thats insane.  Double header tomarrow, tonight rained out.

Don Stugots

08-29-2006, 02:22 PM

Bulldogcakes wrote:  spoon wrote: He stated himself he's looking to piss off yankee haters and got the desired effect. So fuck him too.  Here's what I actually wrote  I just wanted to tweak the many Yankee haters around here. All in good fun.      A good natured poke aimed at those who can take it, which obviously doesn't apply to Spoon. But I think most people know at this point that when you're dealing with someone a blind obsessive hatred, you consider the source. Last week he accused me of being a child molester. So I guess this is an improvement.    you mean to tell me that you are not indeed a child molester?  my opinion of you just went down.

HBox

08-29-2006, 02:32 PM

Pavano was scratched from his next rehab start.

Bulldogcakes

08-29-2006, 02:40 PM

HBox wrote: Pavano was scratched from his next rehab start.  <img width="468" height="304" border="0" src="http://www.thewarforge.com/uploaded/sa/shocked.jpg" /><img width="223" height="288" border="0" src="http://www.metasoup.com/brieana/B4/shocked.jpg" /> <img width="216" height="274" border="0" src="http://www.johnberman.com/pics/funny/shocked.jpg" /> NO! I CANT BELIEVE IT!! <blockquote />

lleeder

08-29-2006, 02:42 PM

Pavano is the biggest Yankee mistake since Drew Henson.

Bulldogcakes

08-29-2006, 02:46 PM

He's become a running joke in the clubhouse. If anyone has listened to Michael Kay for the past few days, players have even BEEN GOING ON THE RECORD to take shots at him. And being recorded on tape. Jeter said when asked he he was upset at Pavano "Well, I'm not paying the guy" and laughed. (This is Jeter, who always says the PC thing) Damon said "I heard he was in a really expensive car when it happened. Gee, I hope the car is alright" And both went on to say he hasn't been around enough this year for them to have an opinion of him one way or the other.And Torre delivered the final blow "I dont expect him to be back this year" Sounds to me like the entire organization is pushing this pussy out the door. They have a job to do, they dont have time for Carl Pavano.    

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HBox

08-29-2006, 03:12 PM

It's a shame, I really liked how he pitched for the Yanks before those last couple of starts before going on the DL last year. He won't pitch for the Yanks again. There was a police report for the crash however. So he wasn't faking it.

Bulldogcakes

08-29-2006, 03:57 PM

<a href="http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjczN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXkxMTMmZmdi ZWw3Zjd2cWVlRUV5eTY5ODM3MzgmeXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZU VFeXk2" target="_self" title=" Good A-Rod article "> Good A-Rod article </a>by Bob Klapisch, who's one of the best Yankee beat writersThink of the players who've flourished in the Bronx – Jeter, Mariano
Rivera, even the volatile Gary Sheffield. What they have in common is
an utter lack of fear under pressure. The same can be said of Jason
Giambi. Unlike A-Rod or Randy Johnson, those players don't worry about
consequences, nor are they consumed by the opinions of others.
Somehow, Rodriguez went from all-universe shortstop to an unreliable
third baseman who anticipates failure. Instead of envisioning how he'll
destroy the next middle-of-the-plate fastball, A-Rod is obsessed with
how his next strikeout will be received by the fans and the press.
That's a dangerous way to survive in New York, even as the Yankees'
most gifted player.

TheMojoPin

08-29-2006, 04:20 PM

They should trade him.

Tenbatsuzen

08-29-2006, 04:30 PM

<a target="_blank" href="http://img135.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=08440_milano12_122_596lo.jpg"><img border="0" src="http://img135.imagevenue.com/loc596/th_08440_milano12_122_596lo.jpg" /></a> WHORE!! 

This message was edited by Tenbatsuzen on 8-29-06 @ 8:31 PM

Tenbatsuzen

08-29-2006, 04:32 PM

HBox wrote: Pavano was scratched from his next rehab start.    <img width="60" height="60" border="0" src="http://imgsrv.923freefm.com/image/DbLiteGraphic/200604/36151.jpg" />"Wow, who saw this coming."

zildjian361

08-29-2006, 05:14 PM

lleeder wrote: Pavano is the biggest Yankee mistake since Drew Henson.           Bro there was never a bigger mistake that piece of shit kenny rogers<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/thumbdown.gif" border="0" />

Tenbatsuzen

08-29-2006, 05:18 PM

lleeder wrote: Pavano is the biggest Yankee mistake since Drew Henson.   How do you figure?  He never made it out of Double-A, and he was told to scram.  Brien Taylor was a bigger mistake than Henson, IMHO.... and even they aren't as bad as some of the mistakes the Yankees have made.

crb1

08-29-2006, 05:41 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: How do you figure?  He never made it out of Double-A, and he was told to scram.  Brien Taylor was a bigger mistake than Henson, IMHO.... and even they aren't as bad as some of the mistakes the Yankees have made.<img src="http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y161/crb1/fucking_waste.png" border="0" />Hi!

Bama

08-29-2006, 07:49 PM

Bulldogcakes. Looks like you are the one who will be completely and totally responsible for the inevitable yank collapse.

TheGameHHH

08-29-2006, 08:20 PM

hey, Matsui was cleared for BP today. not soft toss, but actual live BP.

Tenbatsuzen

08-29-2006, 11:15 PM

Bama wrote: Bulldogcakes. Looks like you are the one who will be completely and totally responsible for the inevitable yank collapse.   I'll blame him, Milano, and David Wright.  No touch lights.  Agree?

Tenbatsuzen

08-29-2006, 11:32 PM

Something interesting I've noticed. Several Yankee coaches have left the team for managerial jobs to varying levels of success. Lee Mazilli left for the Orioles, and did a semi-decent job with a low-talent team before being fired for reasons unknown.Willie Randolph has done a phenomenal job with the Mets.Joe Girardi is succeeding with the Marlins despite having one of the lowest payrolls in MLB and a complete douchebag of an owner.  It's obvious that the Marlins front office is doing everything they possibly can to undermine Girardi, and the team is now making a push for the playoffs. I'm wondering if this bullshit the Marlins front office is doing is an attempt to not only fire Girardi at the end of the season, but also to make him unemployable as a manager.

A.J.

08-30-2006, 03:37 AM

lleeder wrote: Pavano is the biggest Yankee mistake since Drew Henson. "Ken Phelps for Jay Buhner!"<img height="144" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8c/Costs.jpg/180px-Costs.jpg" width="180" border="0" />

crb1

08-30-2006, 04:46 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Joe Girardi is succeeding with the Marlins despite having one of the lowest payrolls in MLB and a complete douchebag of an owner.  It's obvious that the Marlins front office is doing everything they possibly can to undermine Girardi, and the team is now making a push for the playoffs.I'm wondering if this bullshit the Marlins front office is doing is an attempt to not only fire Girardi at the end of the season, but also to make him unemployable as a manager.There's nothing they'll be able to do to make him unemployable.  If he's fired after the season, he will have a new job as soon as one opens up.  I'm sure the Cubs would love to have him, and I'm sure that's his managerial dream job.  He's too talented and has too good of a reputation for the Marlins to screw up his career, and Loria doesn't have the best rep as an owner so I doubt many teams will put any weight into what he thinks of Girardi.

DirtyJersey

08-30-2006, 11:18 AM

I hope Pavano doesnt expect any love from the fans if he ever comes back.

OGC

08-30-2006, 11:32 AM

Manny Ramirez for Alex Rodriguez, straight up. If not now, after the season ends.As a Red Sox fanI don't know if I would do it but what do you think ?

Tenbatsuzen

08-30-2006, 11:44 AM

DirtyJersey wrote: I hope Pavano doesnt expect any love from the fans if he ever comes back.   Considering the players are openly goofing on him - including Damon, who, in his first year as a Yankee is already seen as a clubhouse leader - I think Hbox is right and he's quietly traded in the off season.

HBox

08-30-2006, 01:32 PM

I don't buy some fans drama over Pavano either. If by some miracle he does pitch for the Yanks this year and he's good and wins a big playoff game or two, he'll be cheered. Probably still traded, but he'll win back a big chunk of fans. I still want him to succeed. I get the feeling some people are enjoying smashing Pavano and hope he stays out or fails if he comes back.

Don Stugots

08-30-2006, 01:55 PM

traded or not, i hope he pitches for the Yanks a few times and pitches well.  who would want the guy to pitch and lose?  thats dumb.

HBox

08-30-2006, 02:23 PM

<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2566712" target="_blank">And this all but closes the door on Pavano's 2006 season.</a>

Tenbatsuzen

08-30-2006, 03:25 PM

HBox wrote: <a target="_blank" href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2566712">And this all but closes the door on Pavano's 2006 season.</a>    He'll get traded to the Marlins for some magic beans and the Yankees having to pick up a majority of his contract.

Tenbatsuzen

08-30-2006, 03:28 PM

And Spoon, before you bitch about this, the Yankees can control a lot of things - but not when a player gets constantly injured who has no history of doing so, then defies the team by getting into a car accident and not telling them. I kind of hope that the Yankees void his contract, but resign him at a much lower cost.  Don't know if you can do that, but they should look into it.

Tenbatsuzen

08-30-2006, 03:49 PM

Wow, look at that - Fasano, who had been in a huge slump, worked the count bigtime and got a double.  Nice!

Don Stugots

08-30-2006, 04:00 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: And Spoon, before you bitch about this, the Yankees can control a lot of things - but not when a player gets constantly injured who has no history of doing so, then defies the team by getting into a car accident and not telling them. what are you talking about?  the yankees can control everything.  this car wreck was no accident, it is all so that the yankees can prosper.

Bulldogcakes

08-30-2006, 04:15 PM

<a href="http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjczN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXkxMTMmZmdi ZWw3Zjd2cWVlRUV5eTY5ODQyNjgmeXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZU VFeXk2" target="_self" title="Good article on Pavano">Good article on Pavano</a>While Cashman says he still believes Pavano will help the Yankees this season, Torre was more dismissive.
"I'm not going to sit here and wonder when he's going to pitch. I've
got work to do," the manager said before Tuesday's game with Detroit
was postponed. "Everyone has the same obligation to get himself ready
to play."
Torre has no curiosity about the details of the crash, which
according to the police report was Pavano's fault and totaled his
Porsche. Torre doesn't want to know why his pitcher pretended he was
healthy during those minor league starts, nor does Torre wrestle with
the most perplexing question of all:
If Pavano was indeed able to pitch effectively with broken ribs, why
did he report the pain just before he was supposed to rejoin the
Yankees?
Torre sees this mess through one prism only: Pavano is either a liar
(or else someone who fails to tell the whole truth, which is
essentially the same species) and therefore can't be trusted.
Torre's world revolves around trust -- and as he kept saying Tuesday, "It goes both ways."  Again, Bob Klapisch is one of the best sports columnists around, and I think the best Yankee beat writer. Love his work, his measured tone and his sources are excellent. I always get something I didn't hear before with him. And you never get wild, uninformed opinions in his columns, just solid reporting.

Bulldogcakes

08-30-2006, 04:20 PM

More carnage from the Klapisch articleEven the way Pavano became a Yankee offers insight into Pavano's
troubled soul. Not long after signing his contract, the pitcher fired
agent Scott Shapiro for failing to get George Steinbrenner to agree to
a $40 million final sum.
The Boss, for his own quirky reasons, insisted on lowering the tab
by $50,000. Shapiro agreed to the 1.25 percent reduction, but Pavano
dismissed him and vowed to withhold the commission. The matter is now
in arbitration, despite the union's appeal to Pavano to drop the case.
Ever since Pavano arrived in New York, he's acting like a man
second-guessing himself. He's been surly in the clubhouse, but
displayed none of that aggression on the mound. It wasn't long after Pavano's second start against Boston -- 32/3
innings, five runs, 11 hits in a 17-1 loss -- that he reported shoulder
pain. Now it's reasonable to ask whether Pavano was truly too injured
to pitch, or if he was simply spooked by the beating he took from the
American League.
Pavano may have deserved the benefit of the doubt early on, but the
Yankees have since learned to be wary. If Pavano could be evasive about
a car accident, what else hasn't he told them in a year and a half?
People who know Pavano say he is immature, self-absorbed, prone to
treating people badly. The Yankees never asked Pavano to win any
humanitarian awards, only to win ballgames. Now there's reasonable
doubt whether Pavano even wants that.

Tenbatsuzen

08-30-2006, 05:01 PM

That Klapisch article screams contract voiding.

HBox

08-30-2006, 05:20 PM

They would never succeed in getting that contract voided. And beyond that, what kind of message would it send to potential free agents that for the second time in two years the Yankees are looking for a way to weasel out of a bad contract?

crb1

08-30-2006, 05:23 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: That Klapisch article screams contract voiding.Doubtful.  The only thing they have on him is not disclosing an injury, but Klapisch also made a good point that Pavano could argue he was trying to help the team by pitching through it.  Beyond that, he's just been a total waste of money that gets injured every couple of months.  It's just a really, really bad signing by the Yankees, and they're going to have to eat millions no matter if they keep him or trade him. Who would trade for a pitcher that doesn't pitch, but makes $10 million a year is beyond me though.  

This message was edited by crb1 on 8-30-06 @ 9:24 PM

HBox

08-30-2006, 05:29 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: That Klapisch article screams contract voiding.   It also screams hit piece.

HBox

08-30-2006, 05:42 PM

<a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/baseball/mlb/08/30/heyman.pavano/index.html" target="_blank">The last paragraph of this article is so intentional.</a>

zildjian361

08-30-2006, 06:38 PM

talk about mood swings we from doubleheader sweep to this<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/drunk.gif" border="0" /><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/down.gif" border="0" />there's only one MO.

Tenbatsuzen

08-30-2006, 06:46 PM

zildjian361 wrote: talk about mood swings we from doubleheader sweep to this<img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/drunk.gif" /><img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/down.gif" />there's only one MO.   Still 8 up.

zildjian361

08-30-2006, 06:47 PM

richg0404 wrote: Manny Ramirez for Alex Rodriguez, straight up. If not now, after the season ends.As a Red Sox fanI don't know if I would do it but what do you think ?           Keep that lazy ass Manny youre stuck with him A ROD will straighten his head out Ramirez never will. your'e finished this year anyway  SEE YA <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/wink.gif" border="0" />

zildjian361

08-30-2006, 06:52 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  zildjian361 wrote: talk about mood swings we from doubleheader sweep to this<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/drunk.gif" border="0" /><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/down.gif" border="0" />there's only one MO.    Still 8 up.            true<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smile.gif" border="0" />

Tenbatsuzen

08-30-2006, 06:56 PM

This game depressed me.  It had it all.  Sal getting a double, RUNNING like a fat man on fire, and then a great defensive move. All for naught.  Bleah.

OGC

08-30-2006, 07:07 PM

zildjian361 wrote: richg0404 wrote: Manny Ramirez for Alex Rodriguez, straight up. If not now, after the season ends.As a Red Sox fanI don't know if I would do it but what do you think ?           Keep that lazy ass Manny youre stuck with him A ROD will straighten his head out Ramirez never will. your'e finished this year anyway  SEE YA <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/wink.gif" border="0" />As I said, I don't know if I would make the trade either. As far as being stuck with Manny, there are worse things than being stuck with a guy who bats over .300, hits 40 plus homers, and drives in 125 runs, every year.

spoon

08-30-2006, 09:35 PM

Bulldogcakes wrote:  spoon wrote: He stated himself he's looking to piss off yankee haters and got the desired effect. So fuck him too.  Here's what I actually wrote  I just wanted to tweak the many Yankee haters around here. All in good fun.      A good natured poke aimed at those who can take it, which obviously doesn't apply to Spoon. But I think most people know at this point that when you're dealing with someone a blind obsessive hatred, you consider the source. Last week he accused me of being a child molester. So I guess this is an improvement.    Oh and that had nothing at all to do with your conduct with women on the site right?  You're easily a dirty old man on this site.  But I guess, "I'll consider the source".  Nice, hammer away at talking points like a true republican hack.  You con continue to play the political game on the site with your wording, I choose to cut out the middle man.  Oh this Al East race is so much fun since the trade deadline.  Coincidence??

spoon

08-30-2006, 09:43 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: And Spoon, before you bitch about this, the Yankees can control a lot of things - but not when a player gets constantly injured who has no history of doing so, then defies the team by getting into a car accident and not telling them. I kind of hope that the Yankees void his contract, but resign him at a much lower cost.  Don't know if you can do that, but they should look into it.  What the hell would I bitch about here?  And no, they can't do that with a MLB contract.  In the NFL sure, but not with baseball.  Don't worry though, they'll pick up plenty of replacements .... hell, they already did.

HBox

08-30-2006, 09:54 PM

Oh this Al East race is so much fun since the trade deadline.  Coincidence??Yeah actually. Yanks are 17-12 since the acquiring Abreu, and only 12-12 outside the Boston series. The lack of a race in the AL East is almost completely due to Boston imploding. The Yanks exploited their horrid bullpen, Beckett sucked during their most crucial stretch, Varitek, Nixon and Wakefield all get injured, and recently Manny, Ortiz and Pena are out. And maybe they weren't as good as in recent years in the first place.John Gibbons has been too busy running his own personal Thunderdome in the Blue Jays locker room for them to compete.

spoon

08-30-2006, 10:04 PM

HBox wrote:  John Gibbons has been too busy running his own personal Thunderdome in the Blue Jays locker room for them to compete.John Gibbons has been too busy running his own personal Thunderdome in the Blue Jays locker room for them to compete.Maybe Hillenbrand and Lilly are jewish then?

Jennitalia

08-31-2006, 07:46 AM

<img src="http://www.perezhilton.com/arod.jpg" border="0" /> Yum!

Don Stugots

08-31-2006, 08:10 AM

Jennitalia wrote: <img src="http://www.perezhilton.com/arod.jpg" border="0" /> Yum!sometimes, they itch so badly.

Justice4all

08-31-2006, 10:30 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: <a href="http://img135.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=08440_milano12_122_596lo.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img135.imagevenue.com/loc596/th_08440_milano12_122_596lo.jpg" border="0" /></a> WHORE!!  This message was edited by Tenbatsuzen on 8-29-06 @ 8:31 PM   NEVER EVER speak like that to the goddess of TV. She is the hottest gal to come into our homes from TV since....god I do not know when. If she trows up that golden pussy of hers of course the athletes will come. Hell if I played MLB i would be sendng her flowers every fucking day!Seven game lead, up 8 in the loss column.  Good morning, Yankee fans. *sings* Ohhhh...it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood......Big Papi out because of that gorilla heart not beating right.Manny nursing his vagina again (THANKS MANNY! Fucked up my fantasy team)And the Blue Jays who SHOULD be in second now drowning in that ship Shea-the-prophet predicted.All I am worried about this year is the Angels.Bulldogcakes wrote:A good natured poke aimed at those who can take it, which obviously doesn't apply to Spoon. But I think most people know at this point that when you're dealing with someone a blind obsessive hatred, you consider the source. Last week he accused me of being a child molester. So I guess this is an improvement.  You have to understand the man BDC. He does not mind giving it out, you jusy have to learn to give it back in the same manner is all. It IS all in good fun. Hell he has said shit to me before but i do not take it personally, I just go into the BJ's/Yankee Hater thread and dish it out there. Got to attack on his ground too! But for the record, Yankess haters have been around for half a century (Why do you think the broadway show Damn Yankees was made) so you get used to it. But their tirade is getting so old it just makes them sound like whiney I-wish-MY-team-did-as-well bitches.The Yanks, like any other famous team, will always be targets. Let them come. Every once in a while we have our losing seasons (remember the 80's and early 90's?) They just cannot fess up to the fact that we have an outstanding coach and manager and quality players who work awsome as a team. They want to toot the "YOU BOUGHT YOUR TEAM" horn...well I will point out ONE player from this year...Melky. He came up through the farm system and was called up when Matsui was injured. Now he looks like he has been playing for this team for YEARS. He hits like a vet. And runs like hell. Plays a good outfield. That is what we call GREAT SCOUTING.Oh yea...and Robinson Canoe...*cough*samething*cough*It is just jealousy. Nice to be envied isn't it?Tenbats Wrote: Joe Girardi is succeeding with the Marlins despite having one of the lowest payrolls in MLB and a complete douchebag of an owner.  It's obvious that the Marlins front office is doing everything they possibly can to undermine Girardi, and the team is now making a push for the playoffs. Tens, if they make the playoffs this year (Wild card...NO ONE is catching up to the Mets) and they still fire Girardi then that team DESERVES to wollow in last place for the next 5 years. the NL wild card is the Thunderdome this year...6 teams enter into the last week it looks like  at this point....one team wins.

Tenbatsuzen

08-31-2006, 11:17 AM

I nominate the Drew Rosenhause Burger King commercial as the best fast food commercial for 2006.

Tenbatsuzen

08-31-2006, 11:17 AM

Who is this #13 on the Yankees?  I haven't seen him for a while.

Tenbatsuzen

08-31-2006, 11:20 AM

I had actually told BoS when A-Rod popped out in his first at bat, I was waiting for him to run around in his underwear in the infield, yelling about invisible fire.

terry1979

08-31-2006, 11:44 AM

Wow, A-Rod hit a HR....amazing that there is shock when the highest paid athlete in US pro sports (domestic sports anyway....please don't be a moron and post som soccer players salary to prove me wrong) actually produces.  Fuck him, and fuck the Yankees.  Unlike Spoon, I make no proclamation of my bashing of the Yankees being good-natured.  I truley hate everything about them.

terry1979

08-31-2006, 11:44 AM

Wow, A-Rod hit a HR....amazing that there is shock when the highest paid athlete in US pro sports (domestic sports anyway....please don't be a moron and post som soccer players salary to prove me wrong) actually produces.  Fuck him, and fuck the Yankees.  Unlike Spoon, I make no proclamation of my bashing of the Yankees being good-natured.  I truley hate everything about them.

sailor

08-31-2006, 11:52 AM

terry1979 wrote: Wow, A-Rod hit a HR....amazing that there is shock when the highest paid athlete in US pro sports (domestic sports anyway....please don't be a moron and post som soccer players salary to prove me wrong) actually produces. Fuck him, and fuck the Yankees. Unlike Spoon, I make no proclamation of my bashing of the Yankees being good-natured. I truley hate everything about them.  well, we love you and your double-posting anyway!  :)

terry1979

08-31-2006, 11:56 AM

Thanks....That is how much I hate them, the mere thought of the Yankees makes me slam my finger down on my mouse with such verocity that I double post!

TheGameHHH

08-31-2006, 12:06 PM

damn, they totally should have swept the Tigers but i'll take 2 out of 3.

terry1979

08-31-2006, 12:09 PM

TheGameHHH wrote: damn, they totally should have swept the Tigers but i'll take 2 out of 3. will ya?

crb1

08-31-2006, 12:14 PM

TheGameHHH wrote: damn, they totally should have swept the Tigers but i'll take 2 out of 3. They barely got that.  This was a really close series, with the Tigers making noise in their last ups of games 2&3.  The Yankees outscored the Tigers 11-9 over three games, so I'd say they played some pretty good games against each other.  I didn't see this as a fading club, as some writers suggest.

Don Stugots

08-31-2006, 12:14 PM

now dont be sad
cause 2 out of 3 aint bad.

sailor

08-31-2006, 12:26 PM

crb1 wrote: TheGameHHH wrote: damn, they totally should have swept the Tigers but i'll take 2 out of 3. They barely got that. This was a really close series, with the Tigers making noise in their last ups of games 2&3. The Yankees outscored the Tigers 11-9 over three games, so I'd say they played some pretty good games against each other. I didn't see this as a fading club, as some writers suggest.   it should have been a sweep and game 3 wasn't as close as it seemed.  game two was lost only because it was the 2nd of a doubleheader.  if it wasn't, mariano would have come in and shut the door.  game three, they scored meaningless runs against a 43 (minus 10 days) year old pitcher, who was kept in too long to try to protect rivera.  in the playoffs there is plenty of time off for rivera to rest, so these two situations would not have come off.

spoon

08-31-2006, 01:42 PM

bronxmarc wrote:  crb1 wrote: TheGameHHH wrote: damn, they totally should have swept the Tigers but i'll take 2 out of 3. They barely got that. This was a really close series, with the Tigers making noise in their last ups of games 2&3. The Yankees outscored the Tigers 11-9 over three games, so I'd say they played some pretty good games against each other. I didn't see this as a fading club, as some writers suggest.   it should have been a sweep and game 3 wasn't as close as it seemed.  game two was lost only because it was the 2nd of a doubleheader.  if it wasn't, mariano would have come in and shut the door.  game three, they scored meaningless runs against a 43 (minus 10 days) year old pitcher, who was kept in too long to try to protect rivera.  in the playoffs there is plenty of time off for rivera to rest, so these two situations would not have come off.  He just had have an MRI before he pitched to make sure his forearm tightness wasn't something major.  You guys should see the writing on the wall with Mo's August/September tightness and Proctor getting rocked as HBox's theory of Torre killing the main arms of the bullpen in meaningless games (long gone or way ahead).  Will Torre rip the arms off his most important bullpen pitchers again this season?  So far he's well on pace.

spoon

08-31-2006, 01:44 PM

terry1979 wrote: Wow, A-Rod hit a HR....amazing that there is shock when the highest paid athlete in US pro sports (domestic sports anyway....please don't be a moron and post som soccer players salary to prove me wrong) actually produces.  Fuck him, and fuck the Yankees.  Unlike Spoon, I make no proclamation of my bashing of the Yankees being good-natured.  I truley hate everything about them. Wait wait wait!  When the hell did I ever say something like that?  I'm in the same mind set as you all the way Terry, no doubt about it.  I was a little more respectful of the hate until the late 90's, since then, it's nowhere close.  And they deserve nothing less.

spoon

08-31-2006, 01:46 PM

Justice4all wrote: [quote]Tenbatsuzen wrote: <a href="http://img135.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=08440_milano12_122_596lo.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img135.imagevenue.com/loc596/th_08440_milano12_122_596lo.jpg" border="0" /></a> WHORE!!  This message was edited by Tenbatsuzen on 8-29-06 @ 8:31 PM   NEVER EVER speak like that to the goddess of TV. She is the hottest gal to come into our homes from TV since....god I do not know when. If she trows up that golden pussy of hers of course the athletes will come. Hell if I played MLB i would be sendng her flowers every fucking day![quote] Seven game lead, up 8 in the loss column.  Good morning, Yankee fans.   *sings* Ohhhh...it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood......Big Papi out because of that gorilla heart not beating right.Manny nursing his vagina again (THANKS MANNY! Fucked up my fantasy team)And the Blue Jays who SHOULD be in second now drowning in that ship Shea-the-prophet predicted.All I am worried about this year is the Angels.  Bulldogcakes wrote:A good natured poke aimed at those who can take it, which obviously doesn't apply to Spoon. But I think most people know at this point that when you're dealing with someone a blind obsessive hatred, you consider the source. Last week he accused me of being a child molester. So I guess this is an improvement.    You have to understand the man BDC. He does not mind giving it out, you jusy have to learn to give it back in the same manner is all. It IS all in good fun. Hell he has said shit to me before but i do not take it personally, I just go into the BJ's/Yankee Hater thread and dish it out there. Got to attack on his ground too! But for the record, Yankess haters have been around for half a century (Why do you think the broadway show Damn Yankees was made) so you get used to it. But their tirade is getting so old it just makes them sound like whiney I-wish-MY-team-did-as-well bitches.The Yanks, like any other famous team, will always be targets. Let them come. Every once in a while we have our losing seasons (remember the 80's and early 90's?) They just cannot fess up to the fact that we have an outstanding coach and manager and quality players who work awsome as a team. They want to toot the "YOU BOUGHT YOUR TEAM" horn...well I will point out ONE player from this year...Melky. He came up through the farm system and was called up when Matsui was injured. Now he looks like he has been playing for this team for YEARS. He hits like a vet. And runs like hell. Plays a good outfield. That is what we call GREAT SCOUTING.Oh yea...and Robinson Canoe...*cough*samething*cough*It is just jealousy. Nice to be envied isn't it?  Tenbats Wrote: Joe Girardi is succeeding with the Marlins despite having one of the lowest payrolls in MLB and a complete douchebag of an owner.  It's obvious that the Marlins front office is doing everything they possibly can to undermine Girardi, and the team is now making a push for the playoffs.   Tens, if they make the playoffs this year (Wild card...NO ONE is catching up to the Mets) and they still fire Girardi then that team DESERVES to wollow in last place for the next 5 years. the NL wild card is the Thunderdome this year...6 teams enter into the last week it looks like  at this point....one team w

Tenbatsuzen

08-31-2006, 01:51 PM

spoon wrote:He just had have an MRI before he pitched to make sure his forearm tightness wasn't something major. You guys should see the writing on the wall with Mo's August/September tightness and Proctor getting rocked as HBox's theory of Torre killing the main arms of the bullpen in meaningless games (long gone or way ahead). Will Torre rip the arms off his most important bullpen pitchers again this season? So far he's well on pace.   If the Yankees have a 5-6+ game lead going into mid-September, you'll see a lot more help on the 40 man roster to rest everyone for the playoffs (I hope.)  I'm not sure, but I think this is the largest lead the Yankees have enjoyed this late in the season in a while.

Tenbatsuzen

08-31-2006, 01:56 PM

One more thing about HBox's theory... the reason why the bullpen got killed is because Wright, Chacon, and Johnson couldn't go deep.  Johnson's been pitching a lot deeper, Chacon's gone, and Wright is being worked on. Farnsworth wasn't available because of a sore back.

Bulldogcakes

08-31-2006, 02:05 PM

HBox wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: That Klapisch article screams contract voiding. It also screams hit piece.  You're obviously not fimiliar with Klapisch's work. He always takes care to factually back up everything he writes, never goes off half-cocked like so many others do. He's always measured in his remarks and stays within the facts as he knows them. He used to do regualr spots on Richard Neer's Saturday show, and I was always impressed with him, and he usually has something I haven't heard elsewhere, which tells me he has good sources who trust him. If it screams hit piece, then the target is richly deserved.  <blockquote />

HBox

08-31-2006, 02:16 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: One more thing about HBox's theory... the reason why the bullpen got killed is because Wright, Chacon, and Johnson couldn't go deep. Johnson's been pitching a lot deeper, Chacon's gone, and Wright is being worked on. Farnsworth wasn't available because of a sore back.   Mussina and Johnson are very close in what they average per start, both almost six and a third. Chacon has made only 11 starts and none in a very long time.Torre used Villone for at least the first two months in anything but important situations. He put shitloads of useless innings on his arm in situations where he could have been testing out the back of the bullpen. And then once he started using Villone in important situations and went way overboard. Result? Villone has an ERA over 6 in his last 14 appearances.Luckily he realizes this now. I am hoping he will ease up a bit when the rosters are expanded. Hopefully he gets Dotel some extensive work and tests him out. I'm afraid that Torre has already lost trust him in and no matter what Dotel does Torre won't use him in any significant work in the postseason and will essentially create a 4 man bullpen.

HBox

08-31-2006, 02:27 PM

Bulldogcakes wrote: HBox wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: That Klapisch article screams contract voiding. It also screams hit piece. You're obviously not fimiliar with Klapisch's work. He always takes care to factually back up everything he writes, never goes off half-cocked like so many others do. He's always measured in his remarks and stays within the facts as he knows them. He used to do regualr spots on Richard Neer's Saturday show, and I was always impressed with him, and he usually has something I haven't heard elsewhere, which tells me he has good sources who trust him. If it screams hit piece, then the target is richly deserved.   The steroid accusations were completely speculative. And the anonymous source bashing Pavano didn't help. And he created the impression that Pavano was useless against the Red Sox when in fact he had one great start versus them and one bad start. He only mentions the bad start and does it in a way to make it seem as if he had no success. He also says that Pavano was getting beat up versus the American League. His ERA was just slightly above 4 before his last 3 starts before hitting the DL. I do remember reading that he was pitching injured for a while before going on the DL. Whether that came from Pavano or somewhere else I don't know. All of that together in the context of the article screams that there was an agenda behind it, whether that was Klapisch's or someone on the Yankees (or just about the whole clubhouse). There wasn't even an attempt to balance out the article. When the guy ends the article calling a player a weasel, there's just no attempt at objectivity.

Bulldogcakes

08-31-2006, 02:28 PM

Justice4all wrote:You have to understand the man BDC. He does not mind giving it out, you jusy have to learn to give it back in the same manner is all. It IS all in good fun. Hell he has said shit to me before but i do not take it personally, I just go into the BJ's/Yankee Hater thread and dish it out there. Got to attack on his ground too! I have no interest in getting into shouting matches with people who I dont respect. You want to roll in the mud with the pigs, be my guest. I do however, enjoy a good debate with someone from the other side of an issue. Gives you a chance to hone your arguments and occasionally learn something from the other side. If nothing else, you remind yourself there are usually legitimate arguments on both sides. But in order to do that, there has to be a basis of civility. Or else it becomes a mindless, stupid insult shouting match. Which again, I have no intetrest in getting into. Lets face it, the reason Spoon attacks me on a daily basis (BTW-violating board rules) is simply because I DONT respond in kind. And he thinks that makes him a big tough guy internet bully. When actually he just makes an ass of himself to anyone who's a grown up. I've made this clear numerous times, maybe others could show a little repect for my feelings.  <blockquote />

Bulldogcakes

08-31-2006, 02:50 PM

HBox wrote:The steroid accusations were completely speculative. And the anonymous source bashing Pavano didn't help. And he created the impression that Pavano was useless against the Red Sox when in fact he had one great start versus them and one bad start. He only mentions the bad start and does it in a way to make it seem as if he had no success. He also says that Pavano was getting beat up versus the American League. His ERA was just slightly above 4 before his last 3 starts before hitting the DL. I do remember reading that he was pitching injured for a while before going on the DL. Whether that came from Pavano or somewhere else I don't know.   The steroid mention WAS pure specualtion, and he made that clear. THats just unfortunately part of baseball at this point when someone has a career year. I dont like anonymous sources either, but if you're a reporter and you hear the same thing from multiple sources but no one wants to go on the record (and you know players dont want their names attached to stuff like that), you either use the anonymous source technique or you cant print it. It can be legitimate. H, you'd have to be living under a rock not to hear all the shit coming out on Pavano for the past year and a half, including him and his agent telling anyone who'd listen he wanted to be traded. About him not mentioning the few good performances he had, that's minor. His overall point of him pitching poorly is accurate. If you have to stop and qualify every assertion you make, an article becomes unreadable.   All of that together in the context
of the article screams that there was an agenda behind it, whether that
was Klapisch's or someone on the Yankees (or just about the whole
clubhouse). There wasn't even an attempt to balance out the article.
When the guy ends the article calling a player a weasel, there's just
no attempt at objectivity.I think there was an agenda, but does that make it wrong? I think this was the last straw and now no one who's been folowing this can make excusues for guy anymore, especially when you consider the timing of his revealing his injury just before he was scheduled to start for the Yanks. Columnists all over are only now printing stuff that has been whispered in Yankee circles for the past year. Do you know that now we dont have a starter for Sundays game vs the Twins? When the guy ends the article calling a player a weasel, there's just
no attempt at objectivity. OK, you got me there. Weasel's a bit much.  BTW- <a href="http://www.prosportsdaily.com/mlb/yankees/rumors.html" target="_self" title="Here's a site">Here's a site</a> where I get Yankee related stuff from all sorts of newspapers all over the country. If you dont like Klap, read some of the others. They're worse.

HBox

08-31-2006, 03:01 PM

Do you know that now we dont have a starter for Sundays game vs the Twins?That would be Darrell Rasner. Pavano probably deserved that article, but I think my points still stand. I never like idle speculation in articles. Mussina had problems with velocity last year. Freddy Garcia is dealing with the same thing this year. It just happens and I think its unfair to speculate if this is all you have to go on.And while you have a point about not qualifying, He was clearly trying to mislead when he said Pavano can't handle pitching against the Red Sox. He had one good start and one bad start.I do think Klapisch is one of the better writers. His stuff is usually much better but I really didn't like this article. And I say that mainly from a journalists perspective. Too much personal stuff. Unfortunately it is par for the course in the world of sports journalism.

HBox

08-31-2006, 03:16 PM

crb1 wrote: TheGameHHH wrote: damn, they totally should have swept the Tigers but i'll take 2 out of 3. They barely got that. This was a really close series, with the Tigers making noise in their last ups of games 2&3. The Yankees outscored the Tigers 11-9 over three games, so I'd say they played some pretty good games against each other. I didn't see this as a fading club, as some writers suggest. The Yanks were 5-2 versus the Tigers this season, and in the two games they lost they took the lead into the ninth inning. In both of those games Mariano was unavailable and Farnsworth and Proctor took turns blowing the save. 

This message was edited by HBox on 8-31-06 @ 7:17 PM

crb1

08-31-2006, 04:13 PM

HBox wrote:  crb1 wrote: TheGameHHH wrote: damn, they totally should have swept the Tigers but i'll take 2 out of 3. They barely got that. This was a really close series, with the Tigers making noise in their last ups of games 2&3. The Yankees outscored the Tigers 11-9 over three games, so I'd say they played some pretty good games against each other. I didn't see this as a fading club, as some writers suggest.   The Yanks were 5-2 versus the Tigers this season, and in the two games they lost they took the lead into the ninth inning. In both of those games Mariano was unavailable and Farnsworth and Proctor took turns blowing the save. This message was edited by HBox on 8-31-06 @ 7:17 PM Good point.  Also, Johnson has pitched very well against them in two starts this year.  I believe he threw a shut out the first time they faced, and had a very good line today until that two-run hr in the 9th.  He still pitched a solid game though.I think Proctor can be an excellent set up guy, or closer, if he can develop a 2nd pitch.  He's pretty good right now, and has been very good since the break, but you can see in games like last night that he has no out pitch if hitters are fouling off his fastball.

spoon

09-01-2006, 01:36 AM

Bulldogcakes wrote:  Justice4all wrote: [quote]You have to understand the man BDC. He does not mind giving it out, you jusy have to learn to give it back in the same manner is all. It IS all in good fun. Hell he has said shit to me before but i do not take it personally, I just go into the BJ's/Yankee Hater thread and dish it out there. Got to attack on his ground too! I have no interest in getting into shouting matches with people who I dont respect. You want to roll in the mud with the pigs, be my guest. I do however, enjoy a good debate with someone from the other side of an issue. Gives you a chance to hone your arguments and occasionally learn something from the other side. If nothing else, you remind yourself there are usually legitimate arguments on both sides. But in order to do that, there has to be a basis of civility. Or else it becomes a mindless, stupid insult shouting match. Which again, I have no intetrest in getting into. Lets face it, the reason Spoon attacks me on a daily basis (BTW-violating board rules) is simply because I DONT respond in kind. And he thinks that makes him a big tough guy internet bully. When actually he just makes an ass of himself to anyone who's a grown up. I've made this clear numerous times, maybe others could show a little repect for my feelings.   So you like getting into shouting matches (on the internet) with people you respect?  And who the fuck are you that I'd want, need or give a rat's ass about gaining your respect?!  If you recall, we had it out really early when you came to the board, way before you transitioned into this gay, high school political game playing fool with me.  Your attempt to cry to the mods only makes me laugh harder as you've broken plenty of your stated rules in that very post.  And how many times will you go down the lame maturity angled road while wimpering like a toddler.I don't attack you to go after you personally.  I attack your posts, ideas and insane yankee rants which in turn hits you below the belt in that soft cushion you call a sack but is more appropriately labeled a vagina.  I also love the fact that you "ignore" me (not even close), and "DONT respond in kind" since every other post is a response or diatribe about your superior debating skills and ability to read the same myopic yankee writer day in and day out making you the authority on the entire league.  Never do I put myself out there as a internet tough guy as you stated as I could care less if you think I'm tough.  There is a huge difference between truly being annoyed by another post's posts and trying to be "tough".  You argue in much the same fashion on politics in that there is hardly anything that comes from the opposing view that you'd even consider and when one doesn't agree, they're simply wrong. And the overall simple fact that you obviously don't get is that you're on a message board, not in front of a UN commitee (bad ref I guess with you being an uber republican and seeing no use for the UN).  Hence your claim or stance on maturity is just an utter joke.  Especially since I get along with plenty of other yank fans, and for that matter, argue like mad with them as well.  Here, I'll use a gay cliche (instead of arguing since you can't handle it) to help you understand things better since you like to talk in this verse.  I'm sorry you can't see the forest for the trees, bc truly you aren't even aware one bit the dilema the league is in and the danger it poses.  If it doesn't get better soon, you'll be cheering the yankees on with everyone else being yankee fans or just plain fed up with baseball all together.  But don't let things like that get in the way of some more pennan

spoon

09-01-2006, 01:38 AM

Oh and I may get into it with Hbox and Tenbats from time to time but, I thank god for them in this thread.  If not for you both, this thread would be like a Republican town meeting with George Bush or the RNC.I guess I can throw in Crip and HHH of late as well.  The rest of you stink, while BDC, well, I don't need another vacation so soon..........

This message was edited by spoon on 9-1-06 @ 5:40 AM

terry1979

09-01-2006, 04:56 AM

2) Since you probably don't truly understand the phrase "can't see the forest for the trees", it simply refers to being too close to the problem to see the solution.  This pretty much sums up the mentality of 90% of the yank fans out there.Didn't you hear Spoon?  There is no problem.  The Yankees will win just because they are the Yankees, it is their divine right.  Holes in the out field?  Who cares?  You can always get a $15 million per year right fielder who would be a franchise player and the highest paid guy on 95% of the teams in the league, but on the Spankees he is just a nice little pick up to sure up that ailing line-up which was forced to play half the season with only 6 $10 million + a year guys in their starting line up, not to mention 4 or 5 more in their pitching staff.  Joe Torre is a genius for navigating through those tough times when the Yankkes were only putting $160 million product ($40 million more than anyone else) on the field every day instead of $200 million one.  Thank God they got Abreu...and if Matsui and Sheff come back Cano will be the only guy who isn't making at least 8 figures to even see the field in October, and that is only because he is pre-arbitration still.  The team is a joke, and if you are from NYC area and were with them through the rough times in the '80's and early '90's, I can respect that...I still think you are all annoying as hell, but that is your team and this is your city and their are two ways to go and you chose the Spanks for whatever reason....But if you are not from around here and are a big Yankee fan, you are a god damn front runner and you make me sick.  And there are no exceptions to that rule, unless you relocated.  And if you are from an area that has its own team and you claim to be a Yankee fan, you are truley disgraceful and should be ashamed of yourself....you are not taken seriously by anyone as a sports fan, especially New Yorkers.

TheGameHHH

09-01-2006, 03:33 PM

I guess I can throw in Crip and HHH of late as well.  The rest of you stink, while BDC, well, I don't need another vacation so soon.......... you have such a man crush on me it's gross.

Don Stugots

09-01-2006, 03:39 PM

TheGameHHH wrote:  I guess I can throw in Crip and HHH of late as well.  The rest of you stink, while BDC, well, I don't need another vacation so soon..........  you have such a man crush on me it's gross. i am jealous of his man crush on you.  all i get from Spoon is being called curse words.  unless that is just his way of playing hard to get.   thats so coy of him.

TheGameHHH

09-01-2006, 05:36 PM

look who's been tits the past two days? A-Rod!

Tenbatsuzen

09-01-2006, 05:38 PM

<img width="200" height="200" border="0" src="http://www.yaysports.com/mlb/images/arod.jpg" /> HE'S BAAAAAA-AAAAAACK.(I hope)

Tenbatsuzen

09-01-2006, 05:40 PM

OK, maybe I should take back what I just said.  The thing is, all I want is some consistency out of A-Rod at this point.  That's all.  he doesn't have to lead.  He doesn't have to hit a home run at every at bat.  I just want positive consistency.

Don Stugots

09-01-2006, 05:46 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  <img height="200" src="http://www.yaysports.com/mlb/images/arod.jpg" width="200" border="0" /> HE'S BAAAAAA-AAAAAACK.(I hope)     ok, that pic is scary.

BoondockSaint

09-01-2006, 05:49 PM

STUGOTS1 wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote:  <img height="200" src="http://www.yaysports.com/mlb/images/arod.jpg" width="200" border="0" /> HE'S BAAAAAA-AAAAAACK.(I hope)     ok, that pic is scary.  That's how he looks without his makeup on.

TheGameHHH

09-01-2006, 06:00 PM

Tenbats, I agree and I think those of us who have a level head on our shoulders and know baseball agree as well. Remember this is a game where if u fail 70% of the time, you're still damn good. The past two days he's looked a little more comfortable and if I could pick any time of year for him to start getting hot, it's now.

Tenbatsuzen

09-01-2006, 06:30 PM

I got so giddy about A-Rod, I forgot that Rich Vos... erm, Lidle pitched 6 FANTASTIC innings tonight. Mopping up?  Bruney, Myers, Dotel, and Beam.  Let's hope Joe continues this trend.

BoondockSaint

09-01-2006, 10:41 PM

spoon wrote: Bulldogcakes wrote:  [quote]Justice4all wrote: [quote]You have to understand the man BDC. He does not mind giving it out, you jusy have to learn to give it back in the same manner is all. It IS all in good fun. Hell he has said shit to me before but i do not take it personally, I just go into the BJ's/Yankee Hater thread and dish it out there. Got to attack on his ground too! I have no interest in getting into shouting matches with people who I dont respect. You want to roll in the mud with the pigs, be my guest. I do however, enjoy a good debate with someone from the other side of an issue. Gives you a chance to hone your arguments and occasionally learn something from the other side. If nothing else, you remind yourself there are usually legitimate arguments on both sides. But in order to do that, there has to be a basis of civility. Or else it becomes a mindless, stupid insult shouting match. Which again, I have no intetrest in getting into. Lets face it, the reason Spoon attacks me on a daily basis (BTW-violating board rules) is simply because I DONT respond in kind. And he thinks that makes him a big tough guy internet bully. When actually he just makes an ass of himself to anyone who's a grown up. I've made this clear numerous times, maybe others could show a little repect for my feelings.   So you like getting into shouting matches (on the internet) with people you respect?  And who the fuck are you that I'd want, need or give a rat's ass about gaining your respect?!  If you recall, we had it out really early when you came to the board, way before you transitioned into this gay, high school political game playing fool with me.  Your attempt to cry to the mods only makes me laugh harder as you've broken plenty of your stated rules in that very post.  And how many times will you go down the lame maturity angled road while wimpering like a toddler.I don't attack you to go after you personally.  I attack your posts, ideas and insane yankee rants which in turn hits you below the belt in that soft cushion you call a sack but is more appropriately labeled a vagina.  I also love the fact that you "ignore" me (not even close), and "DONT respond in kind" since every other post is a response or diatribe about your superior debating skills and ability to read the same myopic yankee writer day in and day out making you the authority on the entire league.  Never do I put myself out there as a internet tough guy as you stated as I could care less if you think I'm tough.  There is a huge difference between truly being annoyed by another post's posts and trying to be "tough".  You argue in much the same fashion on politics in that there is hardly anything that comes from the opposing view that you'd even consider and when one doesn't agree, they're simply wrong. And the overall simple fact that you obviously don't get is that you're on a message board, not in front of a UN commitee (bad ref I guess with you being an uber republican and seeing no use for the UN).  Hence your claim or stance on maturity is just an utter joke.  Especially since I get along with plenty of other yank fans, and for that matter, argue like mad with them as well.  Here, I'll use a gay cliche (instead of arguing since you can't handle it) to help you understand things better since you like to talk in this verse.  I'm sorry you can't see the forest for the trees, bc truly you aren't even aware one bit the dilema the league is in and the danger it poses.  If it doesn't get better soon, you'll be cheering the yankees on with everyone else being yankee fans or just plain fed up with baseball all together.  But don't let things l

TheMojoPin

09-02-2006, 03:58 AM

I think Pavano and Mark Prior both ditched their 'roids at about the same time.

Bulldogcakes

09-02-2006, 04:02 AM

It is SCARY to think how good this lineup will be with a fully functional A-Rod batting cleanup. 3 HR's and 6 hits in two days, both pitchers were righties. Damon Jeter Abreau and Giambi keep doing their thing and alot of pitchers are going to have a rough first inning. And 3rd and 5th. I also think the crowd has turned a corner with him. A month ago it was fashionable to boo him, when he was the big gun in the lineup, the team was in 2nd place and he was coming up empty more often than not. He was getting booed for hitting a HR if the team was up a few runs. Now, he hit one with the team up 6-0 and he got cheered out of the dugout for a curtain call. Maybe after seeing him struggle the way he did, fans are now ready to embrace him again. I hope so. I haven't been so happy to see a player do well in a long time.

spoon

09-02-2006, 02:05 PM

Pay attention BDS and ooooo, looks who's not talking anymore.  Your standards are sooo high.  I wish I was allowed to pray with you!  ahahahahahahhhahahaahahhhhhaaaaaa!

Don Stugots

09-02-2006, 02:09 PM

who's not talking? 

TheMojoPin

09-02-2006, 03:12 PM

spoon wrote: Pay attention BDS and ooooo, looks who's not talking anymore.  Your standards are sooo high.  I wish I was allowed to pray with you!  ahahahahahahhhahahaahahhhhhaaaaaa! What the hell?I don't know how you could possibly see this as anything but instigating when nothing has been done or said to you.  When someone says they're not going to respond to your attacks and then they actually follow through on their promise, hey, guess what?  They've just given your stubborn ass an easy out.  Take it.

Don Stugots

09-02-2006, 03:18 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: spoon wrote: Pay attention BDS and ooooo, looks who's not talking anymore.  Your standards are sooo high.  I wish I was allowed to pray with you!  ahahahahahahhhahahaahahhhhhaaaaaa! What the hell?I don't know how you could possibly see this as anything but instigating when nothing has been done or said to you.  When someone says they're not going to respond to your attacks and then they actually follow through on their promise, hey, guess what?  They've just given your stubborn ass an easy out.  Take it.i agree with MoJo.  why not just let it go?  why make it personnal like this spoon?  we are all here for some fun.  why get like this?

Tenbatsuzen

09-02-2006, 04:58 PM

TheGameHHH wrote: Tenbats, I agree and I think those of us who have a level head on our shoulders and know baseball agree as well. Remember this is a game where if u fail 70% of the time, you're still damn good. The past two days he's looked a little more comfortable and if I could pick any time of year for him to start getting hot, it's now.    Here's the thing though. If you fail 67 percent of the time, you're a hall of famer. If you fail 70 percent of the time, you're a good player. If you fail 73 percent of the time, you're marginal to OK.  If you fail 75 percent of the time, you're not a good player. Funny how much of a difference 8 percent makes.

Bulldogcakes

09-02-2006, 05:25 PM

Or put another way. The difference between a .300 hitter and a .250 hitter is one hit every 20 at bats.

TheGameHHH

09-02-2006, 09:28 PM

what an ugly game today, i'm surprised they actually played it.

spoon

09-02-2006, 11:42 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: spoon wrote: Pay attention BDS and ooooo, looks who's not talking anymore.  Your standards are sooo high.  I wish I was allowed to pray with you!  ahahahahahahhhahahaahahhhhhaaaaaa! What the hell?I don't know how you could possibly see this as anything but instigating when nothing has been done or said to you.  When someone says they're not going to respond to your attacks and then they actually follow through on their promise, hey, guess what?  They've just given your stubborn ass an easy out.  Take it.He decided to stop after his twentieth mention of not responding, ease up on the nobel peace prize.  And it's not instigating when someone dumps on you and doesn't respond.  Don't push and run then act like the class angel.  And who cares anyway?  It's not like this is an out of control situation, some of us truly like to diss what we can of the yanks and especially their fans who seem truly out of control.  Now go back to watching your sucky Cubs find a way to lose more than the Jays (hard to do of late).  Oh and nicely put Terry.  Watch how quick everyone here starts loving Arod and Pavano if they have one good game in the playoffs.  No integrity or value, just do whatever it takes to win even if it involves destroying the leauge and or having any fucking pride or personal politics.

BoondockSaint

09-03-2006, 01:16 AM

HAAHAHAHAHAHHA!

spoon

09-03-2006, 01:54 AM

blah

BoondockSaint

09-03-2006, 02:00 AM

Exactly.

spoon

09-03-2006, 03:30 AM

sure

TheMojoPin

09-03-2006, 03:37 AM

spoon wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: spoon wrote: Pay attention BDS and ooooo, looks who's not talking anymore.  Your standards are sooo high.  I wish I was allowed to pray with you!  ahahahahahahhhahahaahahhhhhaaaaaa! What the hell?I don't know how you could possibly see this as anything but instigating when nothing has been done or said to you.  When someone says they're not going to respond to your attacks and then they actually follow through on their promise, hey, guess what?  They've just given your stubborn ass an easy out.  Take it.He decided to stop after his twentieth mention of not responding, ease up on the nobel peace prize.  And it's not instigating when someone dumps on you and doesn't respond.  Don't push and run then act like the class angel.  And who cares anyway?   I do.  Just take the easy option and ignore each other.  You can't seem to attack his posts/opinions without attacking him so now it's come to this.  Don't act like there are any other options, because there aren't.  Your behavior against him has become increasingly childish and paranoid and everyone's tired of it.  Either back off or you're banned from posting in this thread.  End of discussion on the board.  PM, IM or e-mail a mod if you want to talk about it further.

Tenbatsuzen

09-03-2006, 07:30 AM

Eight games up, nine up in the loss column.  Yankes are 80-54, Tigers are 84-52.   Garza vs. Rasner to wrap up the Twins series today.  Yankees then have a three game set in K.C., a day off, then a weekend set with Baltimore.  Meanwhile, Boston plays the White Sox and then K.C. at Fenway.  Detroit plays the Mariners, then the Twins.

cougarjake13

09-03-2006, 08:41 AM

terry1979 wrote:   And if you are from an area that has its own team and you claim to be a Yankee fan, you are truley disgraceful and should be ashamed of yourself....you are not taken seriously by anyone as a sports fan, especially New Yorkers.   while i'm not a yankee fan, i now live in tampa after living in staten island for 27 years, so are you saying that i can no longer be a mets fan and switch my allegience to the devil rays just because i moved ????

This message was edited by cougarjake13 on 9-3-06 @ 12:48 PM

Tenbatsuzen

09-03-2006, 09:17 AM

cougarjake13 wrote: terry1979 wrote: And if you are from an area that has its own team and you claim to be a Yankee fan, you are truley disgraceful and should be ashamed of yourself....you are not taken seriously by anyone as a sports fan, especially New Yorkers. while i'm not a yankee fan, i now live in tampa after living in staten island for 27 years, so are you saying that i can no longer be a mets fan and switch my allegience to the devil rays just because i moved ????

    You missed his point if you grew up in the area. It's the rules of sports bigamy.

cougarjake13

09-03-2006, 09:43 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  cougarjake13 wrote: terry1979 wrote:  And if you are from an area that has its own team and you claim to be a Yankee fan, you are truley disgraceful and should be ashamed of yourself....you are not taken seriously by anyone as a sports fan, especially New Yorkers. while i'm not a yankee fan, i now live in tampa after living in staten island for 27 years, so are you saying that i can no longer be a mets fan and switch my allegience to the devil rays just because i moved ???? You missed his point if you grew up in the area. It's the rules of sports bigamy.yeh i took it the other way just re read it and got his pointno worries

Tenbatsuzen

09-03-2006, 10:55 AM

Young rookie arm. Just over 80 pitches through six, with a substantial lead.  <img width="180" height="140" border="0" src="http://www.adweek.com/adweek/photos/2006/03/31_CR_News_Subway.jpg" />  "WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT?!?!?!?!"

Tenbatsuzen

09-03-2006, 11:07 AM

Hey, he's pitching great, it's great weather, he's under 80 pitches, with four hits, so whattya do? PULL HIM. Goddamn it, this pisses me off.

cougarjake13

09-03-2006, 11:15 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Hey, he's pitching great, it's great weather, he's under 80 pitches, with four hits, so whattya do? PULL HIM. Goddamn it, this pisses me off.and to add insult to injury the bullpen will get rocked

Tenbatsuzen

09-03-2006, 11:28 AM

cougarjake13 wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: Hey, he's pitching great, it's great weather, he's under 80 pitches, with four hits, so whattya do? PULL HIM. Goddamn it, this pisses me off.and to add insult to injury the bullpen will get rocked   In fairness, Proctor, Myers, and Farnsworth need/needed the work, but I would have at least left him in for the seventh. I understand he's a rookie with a chance to win his first start at Yankee Stadium, but when he obviously has some stuff left in the tank, and you've got a four run lead, you can at least leave him in for a bit more.

Tenbatsuzen

09-03-2006, 11:31 AM

ALEX RODRIGUEZ HITS THE BLACK <img width="180" height="180" border="0" src="http://www.vh1.com/shared/media/news/images/d/difranco-ani/ani_180x180.jpg" />

zildjian361

09-03-2006, 11:52 AM

A-ROD HITS THE BLACK nuff said.<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/wink.gif" border="0" />

Doctor Z

09-03-2006, 11:59 AM

A-Rod is so back... He is SO back it hurts.

31 HRs and 101 RBIs. What a terrible season.

cougarjake13

09-03-2006, 12:14 PM

Doctor_Z wrote: A-Rod is so back... He is SO back it hurts. 31 HRs and 101 RBIs. What a terrible season. did you give a-rod a hemi ????

Doctor Z

09-03-2006, 12:35 PM

A-Rods are more than just Hemis.

Bulldogcakes

09-03-2006, 02:41 PM

Here's a question. The Yanks will almost certainly play the Wild card team in a 5 game series in the divisional round of the playoffs. As it stands right now, thats either the White Sox or Minnesota. Who would you rather play?   Factor this in, Liriano says he's healthy and will be back with the team within a week or so. I also wouldn't be too swayed by the series the Yanks and Twins just played, since neither team pitched their top of the rotation guys and saturdays game was played in a monsoon.I'm pretty clear on this, I'd rather play the White Sox by a long shot. I think the Yanks can pitch with them, and have a clear edge in the bullpen. I also think the Yanks can match them with their lineup. To be honest, the Sox probably have the second best lineup in baseball, behind the Yanks. So I think they can outslug them and out pitch them, though it would be a tough series. Maybe going the full 5.   The Twins may be the only team the playoff hunt right now (I think the Astros are toast) that can throw 2 stud pitchers at you, possibly/probably starting both of them in 4 of the 5 games. And they have a solid bullpen to back up their starters. Their lineup is so so. Alot of light hitters with maybe 3 guys that can hurt you. But in the playoffs, pitching tends to dominate. And they can pitch, top to bottom. I'd MUCH rather face them in a 7 game series than a 5. In also think that whoever wins the divisional round vs the Yanks, be it the Yanks, White Sox or Twins, will go on to win the World Series. So that 5 game set may be the "real" World Series, with the two best teams facing each other.

HBox

09-03-2006, 03:20 PM

The Yanks today finished their toughest stretch of the year 15-12. Outside of Boston they were 10-12. In that 27 game stretch, 21 of which without an off day, they lost a series to Chicago, split a series at home to the Angels, lost a series at home to Baltimore, swept Boston in Boston, lost a series at Seattle, lost a series at the Angels, won a series at home over Detroit and won a series over the Twins. Not particularly impressive though they were obviously exhausted after the Boston series. The rain delay on Tuesday was a blessing giving them two days off.And here's what's left: 3 at Kansas City, day off, four at Baltimore, 3 home vs. Tampa Bay, 4 home vs. Boston including another doubleheader, 3 at Toronto, day off, four at Tampa, 3 home vs. Baltimore, 3 home vs. Toronto. A whole lot of AL East. Mussina returns and starts Tuesday. That is a big start. If Mussina can't regain form this team isn't going far.

zildjian361

09-03-2006, 04:23 PM

cougarjake13 wrote: Doctor_Z wrote: A-Rod is so back... He is SO back it hurts. 31 HRs and 101 RBIs. What a terrible season. did you give a-rod a hemi ????           this ia a YANKEE thread go with spoon on your mets weak ass division

Bulldogcakes

09-04-2006, 03:06 AM

<a href="http://baseball.suite101.com/article.cfm/mlb_ticket_sales___attendance_up" target="_self" title="Baseball attendance continues tro rise">Baseball attendance continues to rise</a> Mlb drew more than 70 million fans in 1999, 2000, 2001 and then hit a
slight lull the next two seasons. After drawing 67.6 million fans in
2003, ticket sales began to rise again in 2004 with 72.9 million fans,
and last season, fan attendance climbed to 74.9 million fans. This
season, baseball is at a pace to equal or surpass that amount. I know there are those who think that baseball is in bad shape, the league is a mess. This shows thats simply not the case. There haven't been any new expansion teams added in that period, so that means its average attendance they're talking about. Salaries have also leveled off from the early 2000s period where guys were routinely getting 17-20 million (and above) to where now 17 appears to be the ceiling and most are getting below that. So they have certainly leveled off from that previous market. If I was running this business, I'd keep doing what I was doing. I know the Yankee attendance has never been better, they're averaging 52,000 per game and will set an all-time attendance record of 4.2 million fans this year. Thats almost capacity for Yankee stadium, especially when you consider press passes and charity give aways. 10 years ago nobody thought was possible. They also are charging more every year and people keep paying it. Tix now range from $12 for bleachers to $115 for feild box per seat, with the average seat around $50. BTW-Yankee attendance jumped from around 3.5 mil before A-Rod showed up to 3.8, 4.0 and now 4.2 million. Thats why they would be extremely hesitant to trade him, unless he had a complete nervous breakdown on the field or something. Which seemed possible about a week ago. <a href="http://baseball.suite101.com/article.cfm/mlb_ticket_sales___attendance_up" target="_self" title="Baseball attendance continues tro rise"></a>

    

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Doctor Z

09-04-2006, 02:02 PM

I know the Yankee attendance has never been better, they're averaging 52,000 per game and will set an all-time attendance record of 4.2 million fans this year.
They also are charging more every year and people keep paying it.
Yet, they somehow thought it would be a good idea to shrink capacity in the new Stadium down to 50,000. If every seat is always filled, why miss out on a bunch of money by providing fewer seats?

BoondockSaint

09-04-2006, 02:19 PM

Doctor_Z wrote: I know the Yankee attendance has never been better, they're averaging 52,000 per game and will set an all-time attendance record of 4.2 million fans this year. They also are charging more every year and people keep paying it. Yet, they somehow thought it would be a good idea to shrink capacity in the new Stadium down to 50,000. If every seat is always filled, why miss out on a bunch of money by providing fewer seats? Becuse the BIG money is in luxaury suites.  And the new stadium will be chock full of them.

Bulldogcakes

09-04-2006, 02:25 PM

3 reasons. First one is luxury boxes. If you add luxury boxes to the exact same stadium, you'll lose some seats. Second is smaller is the trend ever since they built Jacobs Field and Camden Yards. Better sight lines for the fan, less steep upper deck, more cozy feel to the place. So the average fans will be the winner there.#3 is if you have less tickets available, demand goes up. When people know there's an abundance of available seats, they feel no urgency to get one. When they know the place is sold out every night, that same person will fall over themselves trying to get in the place. The Studio 54 effect. Tell people they cant get in and they'll line up out the door to try. And happily pay whatever you ask them to. If you've ever sat upstairs at Yankee stadium the fucking thing is about a 60 degree angle, which is very steep. I've seen people fall 2 or 3 rows just trying to get out of their seats. Plus you cant see the action directly below you on foul balls and pop ups.I've heard some Met callers on the fan complaining about their new stadium (Which I like even better than ours), saying "The little guy gets screwed, less seats for us" They're absolutely clueless.    

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BoondockSaint

09-04-2006, 02:38 PM

Bulldogcakes wrote:  I've heard some Met callers on the fan complaining about their new stadium (Which I like even better than ours), saying "The little guy gets screwed, less seats for us" They're absolutely clueless.Wait.  I don't understand.  Isn't it going to hurt the average guy if demand goes up and less seats are available, seat prices go up, making it harder for the "little guy" to take his family to a game?

Bulldogcakes

09-04-2006, 02:45 PM

BoondockSaint wrote: Bulldogcakes wrote: I've heard some Met callers on the fan complaining about their new stadium (Which I like even better than ours), saying "The little guy gets screwed, less seats for us" They're absolutely clueless.Wait. I don't understand. Isn't it going to hurt the average guy if demand goes up and less seats are available, seat prices go up, making it harder for the "little guy" to take his family to a game? Not really. I think they charge right now as much as they can get away with, and will continue to do so. So prices will go up no matter what. But then they complain about it. If they feel lucky to get their seat, they'll complain less. They'll probably enjoy the experience more, knowing that they got a "tough" ticket. This is all marketing and economics bullshit, but it works.  Plus they'll have a better seat, so they win right there.     

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Tenbatsuzen

09-04-2006, 03:25 PM

All right.  There is this show on YES right now - I'm guessing it's Kids on Deck - and it shows Posada working out with a personal trainer who looks like a combination of Kimberly Page, Debbe Dunning, and Charisma Carpenter.  She's wearing an electric blue workout outfit and she's got these REALLY nice breast implants. My question - who is she?

Tenbatsuzen

09-04-2006, 03:29 PM

Answer: Laura Posada.  Jorge's wife. <img width="296" height="200" border="0" src="http://www.mlb.com/players/jeter_derek/imgs/photos/8dinner3.gif" /> Man.  Forget Anna Benson.

Tenbatsuzen

09-04-2006, 03:30 PM

Wow.  Just... wow.  I heart Jorge Posada. <img width="550" height="358" border="0" src="http://www.jorgeposada.com/images/galagallery/g5.jpg" />He's getting hotter trim than Jeter!

Don Stugots

09-04-2006, 03:33 PM

tivo the part of her doing squats.  batch material for the  next week or two.  the only flaw in her is that she made a water head kid.

BoondockSaint

09-04-2006, 03:38 PM

I have to admit that those are some pretty good looking beards.

Tenbatsuzen

09-04-2006, 03:38 PM

STUGOTS1 wrote: tivo the part of her doing squats. batch material for the next week or two. the only flaw in her is that she made a water head kid.    Craniosynostosis is a far cry from having down's syndrome. It's still pretty serious, but it's treatable.

HBox

09-04-2006, 04:12 PM

How long has the CIA been running recruitment ads durng Yankee games on YES? I have never been less confident in our intelligence operations. This is a worse development to me than anything that has happened in the last 5 years. Craniosynostosis is a far cry from having down's syndrome. It's still pretty serious, but it's treatable/You can tell how serious a disease is by how desperately a celebrity parent with an afflicted child raises money for it. Hence you won't hear much out of celebrity parents with kids with asthma. But you'll have Flutie Flakes, The Jorge Posada foundation, Hunter's Hope and The Boomer Esiason Foundation.  [/quote]

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Don Stugots

09-04-2006, 04:16 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  STUGOTS1 wrote: tivo the part of her doing squats. batch material for the next week or two. the only flaw in her is that she made a water head kid.    Craniosynostosis is a far cry from having down's syndrome. It's still pretty serious, but it's treatable.  its all the same.  a water head is a water head is a water head.

Tenbatsuzen

09-04-2006, 04:44 PM

HBox wrote: How long has the CIA been running recruitment ads durng Yankee games on YES? I have never been less confident in our intelligence operations. This is a worse development to me than anything that has happened in the last 5 years. Craniosynostosis is a far cry from having down's syndrome. It's still pretty serious, but it's treatable/ You can tell how serious a disease is by how desperately a celebrity parent with an afflicted child raises money for it. Hence you won't hear much out of celebrity parents with kids with asthma. But you'll have Flutie Flakes, The Jorge Posada foundation, Hunter's Hope and The Boomer Esiason Foundation. 

    Again, in fairness, Craniosyntosis is a very serious disease, but it is treatable with not a lot of long term affects.  Autism (Flutie) is a life-long thing with no discernable cure, as is Boomer's deal with CF, which is ultimately fatal.  Not sure what Hunter's Hope is. My point was - yes, it affects people, but doesn't have the same life-long ramifications that Autism, Down Syndrome, and CF has.

Fallon

09-04-2006, 04:47 PM

Oh yeah, look at what Torre is hitting...<img width="550" height="357" border="0" src="http://www.jorgeposada.com/images/galagallery/g11.jpg" />

HBox

09-04-2006, 05:01 PM

Not sure what Hunter's Hope is.Jim Kelly's thing.

HBox

09-04-2006, 06:09 PM

How for fucks sake did that ump miss that call. He clearly missed the plate, the ump was right there in perfect position looking directly at it with no obstruction and he fucking missed it. That might not be the worst call I've ever seen but it is the most inexcusable. There was absolutely no reason to miss that.

Tenbatsuzen

09-04-2006, 06:11 PM

HBox wrote: How for fucks sake did that ump miss that call. He clearly missed the plate, the ump was right there in perfect position looking directly at it with no obstruction and he fucking missed it. That might not be the worst call I've ever seen but it is the most inexcusable. There was absolutely no reason to miss that.    It looks like he was looking at Posada the whole time, and not even paying attention to the plate - he was looking for the relay throw tag, not even thinking that the KC runner would miss the plate. But I agree - horrific call.

HBox

09-04-2006, 07:35 PM

Why the fuck is Scott Proctor pitching on a second consecutive day in a second consecutive blowout? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?

Tenbatsuzen

09-04-2006, 07:50 PM

HBox wrote: Why the fuck is Scott Proctor pitching on a second consecutive day in a second consecutive blowout? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Farnsworth is injured, Mo is injured, Beam and Bruney already pitched, Myers went long yesterday. Maybe Dotel should be in there, but since they are walking on eggshells with their pen, perhaps they just want pitchers to go long instead of one batter per. I'm guessing that Dotel is the emergency closer until Mo is 100 percent.   

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Tenbatsuzen

09-04-2006, 07:58 PM

Hbox - Proctor only threw 12 pitches for 3 outs.  Calmo.  Bruney threw six pitches to get 1 out, Villone threw 20 for 2, and Beam threw 10 for 1.   Myers is in there now, all is well.

Tenbatsuzen

09-04-2006, 08:02 PM

You know, Sterling was talking up how great a comeback this was, but I gotta say... I liked the Yankees comeback against the Rangers earlier in the season a lot better. The defining similarity in both games?  Clutch home runs by one Jorge Posada. Let's see... post a player's wife... player gets big hits.  Hmmmmm...

Tenbatsuzen

09-04-2006, 08:09 PM

BTW, at the end of the season, I'm going to create a "best of" HBox compilation from all the choice statements he's made in the Yankee threads. They include: "WHY IS TORRE SKIPPING OVER CHACON??!" and "I'd rather take Pussy Pavano over Decomposing Johnson!"

HBox

09-04-2006, 08:10 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Hbox - Proctor only threw 12 pitches for 3 outs. Calmo. Bruney threw six pitches to get 1 out, Villone threw 20 for 2, and Beam threw 10 for 1. Myers is in there now, all is well.   I'm not going to sit here and be relieved that Proctor isn't pitching two innings with a 7 run lead against the motherfucking Royals. How can you defend even slightly Torre using an already overworked reliever who leads the league in appearances and innings pitched on two consecutive days in two consecutive blowouts? This is fucking insanity! Look at Villone. The guy needs a fucking two week vacation. Who gives a shit how many pitches TJ Beam threw? I don't care if he throws 100 if he gets outs and holds the lead. They don't need him, they need Proctor.

Tenbatsuzen

09-04-2006, 08:15 PM

Don't get me started on Villone.  He's been pissing me off lately. Look, I KNOW Torre has been making questionable bullpen calls, ESPECIALLY with the fact that Rasner was fine yesterday and he pulled him after 6. I mean, the only thought I have is that maybe Proctor wanted the work.

HBox

09-04-2006, 08:20 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: BTW, at the end of the season, I'm going to create a "best of" HBox compilation from all the choice statements he's made in the Yankee threads. They include: "WHY IS TORRE SKIPPING OVER CHACON??!" and "I'd rather take Pussy Pavano over Decomposing Johnson!"   I could do the same thing with you but it would be nothing but John Sterling and Dr. Z jokes, along with calling out A-Rod for all of his groundouts.

Tenbatsuzen

09-04-2006, 08:49 PM

HBox wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: BTW, at the end of the season, I'm going to create a "best of" HBox compilation from all the choice statements he's made in the Yankee threads. They include: "WHY IS TORRE SKIPPING OVER CHACON??!" and "I'd rather take Pussy Pavano over Decomposing Johnson!" I could do the same thing with you but it would be nothing but John Sterling and Dr. Z jokes, along with calling out A-Rod for all of his groundouts.    I hope your next date is one of those rambling whores from Ultimate Road Trip.

Doctor Z

09-04-2006, 08:53 PM

#3 is if you have less tickets available, demand goes up.
But that's my point. Demand doesn't need to go up at Yankee Stadium. They're already selling every seat.

Doctor Z

09-04-2006, 08:57 PM

<hr color="cococo" align="left">Tenbatsuzen wrote: <img width="550" height="358" border="0" src="http://www.jorgeposada.com/images/galagallery/g5.jpg" />He's getting hotter trim than Jeter!ÿ<hr color="cococo" align="left">

"Agree to disagree."
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TheGameHHH

09-04-2006, 10:11 PM

First off, nobody is mentioning how much of a noble cause the Joe Torre Safe At Home Foundation is? Secondly, Jeter is a SINGLE stud in NYC. Posada is married to Laura. There's amassive difference. Third, Tenbats I totally gotta agree with you. The comeback against the Rangers was amazing this year. And to sound even gayer I had a feeling the whole game that they were coming back.

Tenbatsuzen

09-05-2006, 07:32 AM

TheGameHHH wrote: First off, nobody is mentioning how much of a noble cause the Joe Torre Safe At Home Foundation is?    I would, but I'm too busy slappin' the shit out of my kids

JamMaster

09-05-2006, 08:44 AM

When do the rosters expand to 40? 

Don Stugots

09-05-2006, 09:10 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  TheGameHHH wrote: First off, nobody is mentioning how much of a noble cause the Joe Torre Safe At Home Foundation is?    I would, but I'm too busy slappin' the shit out of my kids  god damn that was funny.  i wish i posted it.  who says your not funny?

Tenbatsuzen

09-05-2006, 09:52 AM

STUGOTS1 wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: TheGameHHH wrote: First off, nobody is mentioning how much of a noble cause the Joe Torre Safe At Home Foundation is? I would, but I'm too busy slappin' the shit out of my kids god damn that was funny. i wish i posted it. who says your not funny?   JustJonMikeyboyFMJeffAngryMissyTooCuteSheeplovrShelle BinkHottubAngel AmyA.J.HBoxSnoogansUnknownPDCuzBum...and that's just the start.

Don Stugots

09-05-2006, 09:57 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  STUGOTS1 wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote:  TheGameHHH wrote: First off, nobody is mentioning how much of a noble cause the Joe Torre Safe At Home Foundation is?    I would, but I'm too busy slappin' the shit out of my kids  god damn that was funny. i wish i posted it. who says your not funny?   JustJonMikeyboyFMJeffAngryMissyTooCuteSheeplovrShelle BinkHottubAngel AmyA.J.HBoxSnoogansUnknownPDCuzBum...and that's just the start. well that whole list is wrong excpet for Sheepy.  he is never wrong, he is just dreamy.

Doctor Z

09-05-2006, 11:05 AM

<hr color="cococo" align="left">JamMaster wrote: When do the rosters expand to 40?ÿ <hr color="cococo" align="left">
Already happened. (September 1st.)

TheMojoPin

09-05-2006, 12:08 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  STUGOTS1 wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote:  TheGameHHH wrote: First off, nobody is mentioning how much of a noble cause the Joe Torre Safe At Home Foundation is?    I would, but I'm too busy slappin' the shit out of my kids  god damn that was funny. i wish i posted it. who says your not funny?   JustJonMikeyboyFMJeffAngryMissyTooCuteSheeplovrShelle BinkHottubAngel AmyA.J.HBoxSnoogansUnknownPDCuzBum...and that's just the start. I should ban you for life for not having me at the top, underlined, in bold and with fireworks shooting out of my ass.

Tenbatsuzen

09-05-2006, 12:11 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: STUGOTS1 wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: TheGameHHH wrote: First off, nobody is mentioning how much of a noble cause the Joe Torre Safe At Home Foundation is? I would, but I'm too busy slappin' the shit out of my kids god damn that was funny. i wish i posted it. who says your not funny? JustJonMikeyboyFMJeffAngryMissyTooCuteSheeplovrShelle BinkHottubAngel AmyA.J.HBoxSnoogansUnknownPDCuzBum...and that's just the start. I should ban you for life for not having me at the top, underlined, in bold and with fireworks shooting out of my ass.   You know, as soon as I read about the cubs' catcher have a scrotal hemotoma, the MojoPin jokes couldn't come fast enough.

Tenbatsuzen

09-05-2006, 12:13 PM

To continue from yesterday... <img width="355" height="450" border="0" src="http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/8447/damon4779793ae2.jpg" /> Hi Michelle!!

Don Stugots

09-05-2006, 12:37 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: To continue from yesterday... <img height="450" src="http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/8447/damon4779793ae2.jpg" width="355" border="0" /> Hi Michelle!!  who is this twat?  more importanly where can i find her dirty panties?

Doctor Z

09-05-2006, 12:42 PM

Damon's chick.

Don Stugots

09-05-2006, 12:48 PM

thank you my good doctor.  i will be writing a letter to her asking for her dirty drawers.

Don Stugots

09-05-2006, 12:49 PM

thank you my good doctor.  i will be writing a letter to her asking for her dirty drawers.

Bulldogcakes

09-05-2006, 04:11 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: BTW, at the end of the season, I'm going to create a "best of" HBox compilation from all the choice statements he's made in the Yankee threads. They include: "WHY IS TORRE SKIPPING OVER CHACON??!" and "I'd rather take Pussy Pavano over Decomposing Johnson!"  I cant wait. That should be fun.  <blockquote />

Bulldogcakes

09-05-2006, 04:16 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: JustJonMikeyboyFMJeffAngryMissyTooCuteSheeplovrShelle BinkHottubAngel AmyA.J.HBoxSnoogansUnknownPDCuzBum...and that's just the start. I should ban you for life for not having me at the top, underlined, in bold and with fireworks shooting out of my ass. You know, as soon as I read about the cubs' catcher have a scrotal hemotoma, the MojoPin jokes couldn't come fast enough.   That was just hilarious. Every bit of it.  <blockquote />

Bulldogcakes

09-05-2006, 04:27 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: To continue from yesterday... <img width="355" height="450" border="0" src="http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/8447/damon4779793ae2.jpg" /> Hi Michelle!! You just gave me an idea for a <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/viewmessages.cfm/Forum/82/Topic/52169/page/The_Players_Wives_thread.htm" target="_self" title="new thread">new thread</a>, and thank you for making the first contribution to it.     

This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 9-5-06 @ 8:34 PM

HBox

09-05-2006, 04:31 PM

Bulldogcakes wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: BTW, at the end of the season, I'm going to create a "best of" HBox compilation from all the choice statements he's made in the Yankee threads. They include: "WHY IS TORRE SKIPPING OVER CHACON??!" and "I'd rather take Pussy Pavano over Decomposing Johnson!" I cant wait. That should be fun.   Man, Tenbats opened up a whole bag of worms that's gonn a make us all look stupid. You shouldn't have entered the fray, Mr.The deal will depend on how much of the salary
the Yanks are willing to take. If they take it all, they'll give up
little in prospects. Maybe Eric Duncan plus, who they are down on
anyway. (On the Abreu trade)Looks increasingly like Proctor and prospects for Abreau and Lieber.Here's a thought to solve the 7th inningPhillip HughesChacon to Pirates for <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6642" target="_self" title="craig wilson">Craig wilson</a> Righty first baseman. We've probably seen the last of Andy PhillipsAnd Aaron Guiel, and Ponson.I had no idea his contract was so backloaded. If the Astros fall out of it, he's gone. (On Andy Pettite) And I am almost 100% sure you were the guy who tried to argue that Wang should be out in the bullpen to open up a rotation spot for Jaret Wright.

Bulldogcakes

09-05-2006, 05:03 PM

Well first of all, I'm flattered that you actually read my almost blog-legnth posts. Second, I didn't mean that it a mocking way. You're a fan, I'm a fan and we all fly off the handle about our beloved Yanks. <strike>You just happen to do it more than the rest of us do.</strike> So it should be fun to recap, thats all. Half of it is laughing at myself because I do the same things.    BTW-I was right about every one those posts MISTER! (more or less)   

This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 9-5-06 @ 9:18 PM

DirtyJersey

09-05-2006, 05:09 PM

Anyone else think that Michael Kay has done much fewer games this year compared to other years. Im not sure, but it seems like he's rarely there.

Tenbatsuzen

09-05-2006, 05:16 PM

DirtyJersey wrote: Anyone else think that Michael Kay has done much fewer games this year compared to other years. Im not sure, but it seems like he's rarely there.   THIS IS NOT A BAD THING. Every time I see Al Leiter, I say to myself, "Hey, look!  It's Straight Sam Champion!"

Tenbatsuzen

09-05-2006, 05:17 PM

Bulldogcakes wrote: BTW-I was right about every one those posts MISTER! (more or less)    No, you weren't.  Ponson was DFA'ed because of his atrocious pitching in the Boston series, not because of the Craig Wilson deal.

Don Stugots

09-05-2006, 05:17 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  DirtyJersey wrote: Anyone else think that Michael Kay has done much fewer games this year compared to other years. Im not sure, but it seems like he's rarely there.    THIS IS NOT A BAD THING. Every time I see Al Leiter, I say to myself, "Hey, look!  It's Straight Sam Champion!"  thank god he is doing less games.  maybe his radio career is going so well that he doenst need the money.

Tenbatsuzen

09-05-2006, 05:25 PM

Here's a gem from HBox - his SECOND POST in the thread... And the lineup
I don't think will be as good as advertised. Damon is already
declining. Sheffield seems to me to be a prime candidate to stink up
the joint. I think Giambi will duplicate last years stats at best.
A-Rod and Jeter will be fine. Posada seems ready to have a horrid year. He was right about Giambi.  But I love the two guys he wrote off for dead are having near-career years.

Tenbatsuzen

09-05-2006, 05:46 PM

Do you think Buddy Bell is sitting on the Royals' bench right now, pleading to whichever God he believes in to let his starter pitch a complete game?

HBox

09-05-2006, 06:00 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Here's a gem from HBox - his SECOND POST in the thread...   And the lineup
I don't think will be as good as advertised. Damon is already
declining. Sheffield seems to me to be a prime candidate to stink up
the joint. I think Giambi will duplicate last years stats at best.
A-Rod and Jeter will be fine. Posada seems ready to have a horrid year.   He was right about Giambi. But I love the two guys he wrote off for dead are having near-career years.   Posada is not having a career year. In fact, all of his current stats are remarkably close to his career averages. stat -                2006   careerOPS                 .848     .845slugging           .470    .469OBP                 .378    .376BA                    .278    .270 HR(projects for)   21       25RBI(projects for)  89       96H(projects for)    134     147R(projects for)     64       82 So lets not overstate how wrong I was. And although I was wrong with Damon I didn't write him off as dead either.

Tenbatsuzen

09-05-2006, 06:02 PM

I think Posada's defensive stats put him over the top in how good a year he's been having.

HBox

09-05-2006, 06:23 PM

Tenbats greatest hits.(on Sidney Ponson) Let me be a Pat Positive here. Do you think the White Sox were freaking out just as much when Contreras landed in their laps? Give
the guy a shot before you kill him.  Just because a guy is a drunken
driver doesn't make him a horrific, horrible person.  Some of the
biggest assholes I know have a clean criminal record. I have to admit, that Toronto Ballboy is a strapping young lad.I want chinese.  Any suggestions?I still don't understand this Milledge-for-Zito
chatter, and hope it's just WFAN hoopla.  The Mets have no need for
Zito, especially since he shits the bed in the playoffs.I was at a Bon Jovi show in temps that were 15 degrees cooler a few weeks ago and I was a fucking mess.With Ponson in the bullpen, he can now serve the
purpose of eating up innings late in the game.  I'm sure that will be
the case in the future.

Don Stugots

09-05-2006, 06:25 PM

good finds Hbox.  Matty, you went to a Bon Jovi show?  fag.

HBox

09-05-2006, 06:30 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: I think Posada's defensive stats put him over the top in how good a year he's been having.   No way. He was an MVP candidate in 2003 when he put up a.923 OPS, hit a career high 30 HRs, drove in a creer high 101 RBIs with a .281 avg. And then there was 2000 when he had a .944 OPS, drew 101 walks with 28 HRs, 86 RBIs and a career high 145 hits and .527 slugging. No defense (and its only an improvement in his throwing arm) makes up for that kind of production.

Tenbatsuzen

09-05-2006, 07:13 PM

Well, at least they made it interesting in the end. Something from Dr. Hbox: Matsui broke his wrist, he will need surgery tomorrow. I guess we won't see him until next year. Dr. Hbox also recommends Robutussin for Tuberculosis.

Tenbatsuzen

09-05-2006, 07:14 PM

STUGOTS1 wrote: good finds Hbox. Matty, you went to a Bon Jovi show? fag.    Bon Jovi fan since day 37.  Fuck you.

HBox

09-05-2006, 07:21 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Well, at least they made it interesting in the end. Something from Dr. Hbox:   Matsui broke his wrist, he will need surgery tomorrow. I guess we won't see him until next year.   Dr. Hbox also recommends Robutussin for Tuberculosis.   You are going to call me out for something like that? I was just guessing. And he isn't back yet either.And what is Robutussin? Robitussin for robots?

Tenbatsuzen

09-05-2006, 07:42 PM

HBox wrote:And what is Robutussin? Robitussin for robots?    <img width="191" height="143" border="0" src="http://www.fightprostatecancer.org/images/optimus_dead.jpg" />Unavailable for comment.

Justice4all

09-06-2006, 08:05 AM

spoon wrote: Seriously, are you retarded?  And if I go at you more do I get a free $100 round of golf?When your birthday falls in a month where you can play golf on a beautiful day then sure!

TheGameHHH

09-06-2006, 03:43 PM

they gotta take this series tonight, you just can't drop a series like this. Matsui is in Trenton tonight rehabbing during a playoff appearence, he's getting close.

Tenbatsuzen

09-06-2006, 04:37 PM

TheGameHHH wrote: they gotta take this series tonight, you just can't drop a series like this. Matsui is in Trenton tonight rehabbing during a playoff appearence, he's getting close.    Are you allowed to do that?  It's the playoffs, so here's one of the top hitters on the big club.

TheGameHHH

09-06-2006, 05:22 PM

apparently you are, cause he's playing.

HBox

09-06-2006, 07:26 PM

Hi. This is HBox. I am here tonight to speak to you about an issue near and dear to my heart. Reliever abuse.<img border="0" src="http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/2826/logosr7.jpg" />There can be nothing more devastating to a reliever than inappropiate and over-use. The bullpen should be a sancutary, a safe harbor from every storm. Yet, for many Yankee relievers, the Yankee bullpen is a place of danger and fear of an abusive manager.<img width="200" height="200" border="0" src="http://media.theinsiders.com/Media/Player/364523_Paul-Quantrill.JPG" /> Paul Quantrill knows that fear. He lived it as a Yankee. Even in his early days, Paul stayed away from the bullpen, fearful of his own manager,
who abused his closer.I interviewed Paul about his experience in the Yankee bullpen.HBox: Tell me about your life in the bullpen before Joe Torre.PQ: It was great.I was used sensibly and I pitched great. One year I had a sub-2 ERA!HBox: What happened next?PQ: He, Joe, he........HBox: Did he pitch you?PQ: (crying) yes....... he pitched me.........HBox: Where did he pitch you? Show me on the box score.PQ: One time....... he pitched me....... with an 11 run lead........... for almost 3 innings!!!!! HBox: I'm sorry, do you need to take a minute?PQ: No..... No..... go on.HBox: How.......how often did he pitch you?PQ: One time he pitched me 10 times in a 14 game stretch! 12 innings in 14 games! A MAN CAN ONLY TAKE SO MUCH!!!!!HBox: And what happened next?PQ: My ERA went up 3 runs! My beautiful ERA was gone forever. Next thing I knew I was in Florida, then San Diego. Now I'm out of the league. My...... MY CAREER IS OVER!!!! (hysterically crying)HBox: I'm so sorry. Johnny, cut the tape.But poor Paul is not the only victim.<img width="275" height="235" border="0" src="http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/images/2006/03/12/QRTQoOL6.jpg" /> My name is Tanyon Sturtze. Before I came to New York, no one wanted to pitch me anymore. But then Joe Torre entered my life. He pitched me all the time. At first I loved it. I was pitching great for the first time in my life! But then he kept on pitching me, and pitching me, and pitching me. HE WOULDN'T STOP PITCHING ME!!!!!! Pretty soon I was on the DL with a "tired arm." No one ever saw me again.Luckily there have been those who have escaped the Yankee Bullpen.<img width="180" height="240" border="0" src="http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/20051203/gordon_61246.jpg" /> HBox: Tell me about your time in the Yankee Bullpen.Tom Gordon: Wow. That was a rough time. Two years that felt like ten.HBox: How much did he pitch you?TG: Let me put it this way. I pitched more in my two years in the Yankee bullpen than I did in the 4 years before that.HBox: Oh my. What happened next.TG: I got the fuck out of there bitch! No amount of money would have kept me there.HBox: You must have really wanted out.TG: I NEEDED out. I went to fucking Philadelphia! A team with a miserable fanbase, a lousy team at the time and a park the size of a Little League stadium! Speaks for itself.HBox: Did you get out unscathed?TG: Not really. My ERA is up a run even thought I went down to the junior league. And I ended up on the DL. I'll........ I'll never be the same. (starts crying) There are those who can survive the horrors of the Torre bullpen.<img width="326" height="400" border="0" src="http://espanol.geocities.com/saludybeisbol/img/mariv.JPG" />I like to pitch the beisbol.<img width="180" height="250" border="0" src="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/news/2003/06/19/cubs_reds_ap/t1_fight_ap.jpg" />[quote][b]IF SOME MOTHERFUCK

zildjian361

09-06-2006, 07:37 PM

THE MAGIC # 15

Doctor Z

09-06-2006, 08:42 PM

Nice piece, HBox. It really is astonishing that Proctor was in there tonight with an 8-0 lead.

Tenbatsuzen

09-06-2006, 08:49 PM

Doctor_Z wrote: Nice piece, HBox. It really is astonishing that Proctor was in there tonight with an 8-0 lead.   Agreed, since Randy's count was relatively low due to the no-hit bid.  But perhaps he told Joe he was out of gas and got pulled... So why didn't Beam go in?  Or the kids they called up?  Using Proctor is just stupid.

Don Stugots

09-07-2006, 07:28 AM

thanks HBOX, your article was so funny that the electricans on the job here just caught me trying to hold in my laughing.  they are making fun of my "holding in my laughing face", i feel so ashamed.

crb1

09-08-2006, 04:16 AM

Does anyone hear check out the ESPN.com baseball chats?  I was in one yesterday with Gary Gillette, and the Yankees bullpen became a running theme throughout the chat.  It was also a them during the last Neyer chat, which pissed off many of the other Yank-haters in the room.  Personally, I think it's a running thing with Torre to rely heavily on a couple of relievers, which has cost him the past few years when they had "must-win" games into late September.  I think now is the best time to work other guys like Bruney and Dotel into games more often to see what they can give you.  It never hurts to have another strong reliever in October.

Bulldogcakes

09-09-2006, 03:17 PM

Another great outing by Wang. Alot of people have been wondering what order to put the Yankee rotation for the post season. I like thisMussinaWangJohnsonThey may or may not use a 4th starter in the playoffs. I doubt it until at least the second round. I trust Moose's experience to open a series, and I like having Wang for a potential game 5. Johnson, who knows.  I also think the MVP stuff with Jeter is utter bullshit, pumped out by the Yankee PR dept in a weak year for candidates. I'd give it to Dye, hands down.

Bulldogcakes

09-09-2006, 03:25 PM

Gotta love Farnsworth. He'll be interesting in the playoffs.

Tenbatsuzen

09-09-2006, 03:35 PM

Bulldogcakes wrote: Another great outing by Wang. Alot of people have been wondering what order to put the Yankee rotation for the post season. I like thisMussinaWangJohnsonThey may or may not use a 4th starter in the playoffs. I doubt it until at least the second round. I trust Moose's experience to open a series, and I like having Wang for a potential game 5. Johnson, who knows. I also think the MVP stuff with Jeter is utter bullshit, pumped out by the Yankee PR dept in a weak year for candidates. I'd give it to Dye, hands down.    Considering how the Yankees have been handling Dotel with kid gloves, and how well Karstens has been pitching, I'd prefer Karstens over Dotel at this point.  But he probably won't make the roster.

Bulldogcakes

09-09-2006, 03:41 PM

I dont get the Dotel thing myself. Seems to me he obviously needs work, and has electric stuff. But Karstens has really opened some eyes, no doubt about it. PLus he seems so unflappable, good make up for a Yankee pitcher.

HBox

09-09-2006, 03:46 PM

Jeter is absolutely an MVP candidate. What's he's doing is much more valuable out of his position. That is in VORP (Value over Replacement Player) in which <a target="_blank" href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/sortable/index.php?cid=99976">Jeter is second in the AL</a>, well ahead of Dye and David Ortiz. Just because he isn't creating runs by hitting shitloads of HRs doesn't mean he isn't creating runs. He is creating runs in his own way and that should be recognized. Jeter has more hits and walks than Dye. He as more runs scored than Dye with 28 fewer HRs. I'm not ready to say Jeter is the MVP but he will be rightly considered. 

This message was edited by HBox on 9-9-06 @ 7:56 PM

Bulldogcakes

09-09-2006, 04:08 PM

First of all, VORP is an absurb stat only used by stat geeks. Speak english, please. Dye has been a terrific player for many years, just like Jeter. And his numbers (Total bases, total runs produced) beat Jeter, hands down. Dye .325 BA 40HRs 91 Runs 110 RBIs .392 OBP .639 SLGJeter .344 12 HRs 97 runs 87 RBIs .420 OBP .485 SLG They different players, and have different roles on their respective teams. But Dye's more important. Jeter could get on base all he wants, he needs guys like Dye for it to mean anything. And Dye's OBP is almost .400 anyway, which is excellent. The Award is Most VALUABLE Player. Sorry, the Yanks are an all star team, of which Jeter is just one of those stars. He is the Captain, he is more than his #'s if you watch him play every day. But he just doesn't have the numbers to warrant an award like that. Mauer is WAY more valuable to the hitting-challenged Twins. Where would they be without him? Nowhere. Where would the Yanks be without Jeter? Maybe only 5 games up instead of 10 in the loss. But still in 1st place. You insist on giving it to a Yankee? Give it to Mo.    

This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 9-9-06 @ 8:15 PM

Doctor Z

09-09-2006, 04:31 PM

I'm not the biggest Michael Kay fan, but seriously... is the guy in trouble with YES or something? Where's he been? He's called like 5 games in the last 2 months.

HBox

09-09-2006, 04:38 PM

First of all, VORP is an absurb stat only used by stat geeks. Speak english, please.VALUE OVER REPLACEMENT PLAYERReally, the title is self explanatory. Jeter is better than the average replacement shortstop than Dye is over the average replacement Right fielder.And the argument you use against Jeter is just as relevant, if not more so (and I would argue moreso), with Dye. Dye has Iguchi, Thome, Konerko, and Crede batting around him. Jeter has Damon, A-Rod on an off-year and the streaky Giambi. He's had Abreu for a month. And has Dye really carried the White Sox all season? I remember that Thome drove them for the first half of the year. I'd rank David Ortiz higher than Dye.And I'd say Morneau is more important to the Twins than Mauer.The MVP is not the slugger on a great team award. If they gave it to who is truly the most valuable it would go to either Santana or Travis Hafner. As it is, just because Jeter doesn't create runs with huge blasts shopuln't be held against him even though it almos certainly will.

Don Stugots

09-09-2006, 07:30 PM

Doctor_Z wrote: I'm not the biggest Michael Kay fan, but seriously... is the guy in trouble with YES or something? Where's he been? He's called like 5 games in the last 2 months. dont miss him too much, he may return.  it is a pleasure watching a game without him.jeter for MVP?  it has to be up there in the top 5.  he is right there for the batting title and his fielding is well above par.  the guy is no Macky Sasser, but he is good.