Lost - Season Three

[Furtherman]

<img height="741" src="http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9889/lostseason3posteriv1.jpg" width="547" border="0" />

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Furtherman on 8-23-06 @ 4:10 PM</span>

[narc]

That's a very metro looking Henry Gale.

[IamFogHat]

It's not till September right?

[JustJon]

<p>October 4.</p><p>Then it's 6 weeks of Lost goodness, followed by no Lost until January.&nbsp;</p>

[Furtherman]

<strong>JustJon</strong> wrote:<br /><p>October 4.</p><p>Then it's 6 weeks of Lost goodness, followed by no Lost until January.&nbsp;</p><p>That is just awful.&nbsp; I'm not sure what happened to my picture, it is the new promo for the new season.&nbsp; I'll try to find another one.</p>

[Doctor Manhattan]

<p><img height="702" src="http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9889/lostseason3posteriv1.jpg" width="540" border="0" /></p><p>Are everyone's eyes those colors? I never noticed before.</p>

[Servo]

I haven't been keeping up with the ARG this summer... I hope that's not going to throw me off when the new season starts.&nbsp;

[Sheeplovr]

<p><span class="postbody">
I haven't been keeping up with the ARG this summer... I hope that's not going to throw me off when the new season starts. </span></p><p>oh god you havent been fallowing </p><p>you will be so lost with lost</p><p>dont even bother watching your out of the loop...or jsut go to wikipedia and read it all </p><p>(in
post commentary: i dont know if this came off snotty or sarcstic i dont
know what i was going for possibly a look at modern man)<br />
</p>

[Don Stugots]

<p>i can not wait for the show.&nbsp; it is my fav.&nbsp; i havent done the RPG thing.&nbsp;&nbsp; i have no time, its a tv show.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>sheepy, you are a snot.</p>

[narc]

I haven't been playing the ARG or anything, but I have been following along with the developments and what it boils down to is a series of video clips that are being compiled into a huge video of a Hanso Foundation meeting that is supposed to have occurred recently in Sri Lanka. It's only about 4 minutes so far. Not a big time investment.<br><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbaDnwB_n_g">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbaDnwB_n_g</a></p><p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by narc on 8-24-06 @ 3:39 PM</span>

[fluffernutter]

<div align="left">Even though the show just irritates the hell out of
me, having a consecutive run of 6 weeks starting in October and then
running consecutively to the end of the season starting in January,
that may peak my interest having it every week. Just the whole every
other week on and off thing drove me batty. Hope this does the trick.<br />
</div>

[Furtherman]

<p><a href="http://comics.ign.com/articles/726/726796p1.html" target="_blank">Lost Action Figures.</a></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Seeing Hurley with the flag reminded me of the golf course.&nbsp; I hope they go back to it this season and play a few rounds.</p>

[Don Stugots]

damn shannon was a hottie.&nbsp; i'd batch all over the action figure.

[JustJon]

I injured by finger almost 2 years ago and had to tape it.&nbsp; Every day I was writing on the tape because (a) I was bored and (b) Charlie did it on the pilot of Lost.<br />

[Don Stugots]

<strong>JustJon</strong> wrote:<br />I injured by finger almost 2 years ago and had to tape it.&nbsp; Every day I was writing on the tape because (a) I was bored and (b) Charlie did it on the pilot of Lost.<br /><p>what would you right?</p>

[CruelCircus]

<strong>Furtherman</strong> wrote:<br /><p><a href="http://comics.ign.com/articles/726/726796p1.html" target="_blank">Lost Action Figures.</a></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Seeing Hurley with the flag reminded me of the golf course.&nbsp; I hope they go back to it this season and play a few rounds.</p><p>The article claims a September release date, but spawn.com says Novemeber.</p><p>Dammit!&nbsp; I want them now!</p>

[Steels]

<p>The premiere episode of season 3 is on October 4th NOT September 27th as some ads will mislead you.&nbsp; The 9/27 is just a clips show to cover the first two seasons.</p><p>If what you guys are saying about 6 weeks of new episodes followed by a long hiatus leading up to the final 18 episodes straight through then I am thrilled.&nbsp; I'd much rather have this format as oppossed to the constant tease we all went through during last season.</p><p>I just ordered Disc 6 of season 2 to watch the finale again as I only had a chance to see it once which was certainly not enough.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I am hoping this year they tone down on the &quot;filler&quot; nonsense (Hurley, Sawyer and frog episode type of scenes) cause there were way too many of them for my taste and patience.&nbsp; The shows just too good to be chewing up so much time on silly shit for the rest of the content while frustrating and questionable at times is very intelligent and extremely entertaining.<br /></p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Furtherman]

<strong>Steels</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I am hoping this year they tone down on the &quot;filler&quot; nonsense (Hurley, Sawyer and frog episode type of scenes) cause there were way too many of them for my taste and patience.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><font face="Arial" size="2"><font face="verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="1">There will be plenty of &quot;filler&quot; nonsense.&nbsp; There has to be.&nbsp; It is an hour show.&nbsp; 24 episodes.&nbsp; They have to stretch it out without running it out.</font> <p><font face="verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="1">I'd expect one <em>maybe</em> two surprises in the first 6 episodes.&nbsp; Certainly one HUGE surprise or revelation.</font></p><p><font face="verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="1">As for the rest?&nbsp;&nbsp;ABC will wait to see how those first episodes rated, and whether it will be picked up for a 4th season or a change in day/time.&nbsp;&nbsp;How the revelations/surprises/secrets will be revealed will depend on those factors.</font></p><p><font face="verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="1">If there is a 4th season, I expect to hear much moaning and groaning because &quot;<em>nothing</em>&quot; will happen.</font></p><p><font face="verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="1">It's enough to make me skip the season and wait for the DVD.&nbsp; <em>Almost</em> enough.</font></p></font>And, Mr. Eko was just arrested in Hawaii, so going by precident, he'll be the next to bite it.

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Furtherman on 9-6-06 @ 12:54 PM</span>

[jax]

What was Eko arrested for?

[Furtherman]

<strong>jax</strong> wrote:<br />What was Eko arrested for? <p><a name="3"></a><a name="celeb5"><strong class="sbheadline"><font face="Arial" size="5">Another 'Lost' Actor Arrested</font></strong></a><br /></p>British Lost star Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje was arrested on Saturday in Hawaii - joining the ever-growing list of cast members cited for traffic violations on the island. The 39-year-old actor, who plays Mr. Eko on the drama, was arrested for disobeying a police officer and driving without a license. According to police, he posted $500 bail and was released after spending just over six hours behind bars. In December, Michelle Rodriguez and Cynthia Watros were arrested for drink driving. Both pleaded guilty. Six other cast members have been cited, but not arrested. Josh Holloway got a speeding ticket in September, while Dominic Monaghan has been pulled over twice for speeding and was also cited for driving without a license. Naveen Andrews has also been slammed with two speeding tickets and Ian Somerhalder has one. Harold Perrineau Jr. was also ticketed for having no motor vehicle insurance during a safety check in Honolulu. <p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>You're on a hit show.&nbsp; You could be killed off anytime.&nbsp; You're in HAWAII.&nbsp; </p>BEHAVE!

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Furtherman on 9-6-06 @ 1:34 PM</span>

[jeffdwright2001]

<strong>Furtherman</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>jax</strong> wrote:<br />What was Eko arrested for? <p><a name="3"></a><a name="celeb5"><strong class="sbheadline"><font face="Arial" size="5">Another 'Lost' Actor Arrested</font></strong></a><br /></p>British Lost star Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje was arrested on Saturday in Hawaii - joining the ever-growing list of cast members cited for traffic violations on the island. The 39-year-old actor, who plays Mr. Eko on the drama, was arrested for disobeying a police officer and driving without a license. According to police, he posted $500 bail and was released after spending just over six hours behind bars. In December, Michelle Rodriguez and Cynthia Watros were arrested for drink driving. Both pleaded guilty. Six other cast members have been cited, but not arrested. Josh Holloway got a speeding ticket in September, while Dominic Monaghan has been pulled over twice for speeding and was also cited for driving without a license. Naveen Andrews has also been slammed with two speeding tickets and Ian Somerhalder has one. Harold Perrineau Jr. was also ticketed for having no motor vehicle insurance during a safety check in Honolulu. <p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>You're on a hit show.&nbsp; You could be killed off anytime.&nbsp; You're in HAWAII.&nbsp; </p>BEHAVE! <span class="post_edited">This message was edited by Furtherman on 9-6-06 @ 1:34 PM</span> <p>wtf - it's an island.&nbsp; How f'ing fast do you really have to go to get where you need to be?</p>

[Furtherman]

<p>I'm wondering if they are passing this around:</p><p><img height="240" src="http://www.tvland.com/shows/brady_bunch/images/shows/pic8_lg.jpg" width="320" border="0" /></p>

[Don Stugots]

<strong>Furtherman</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I'm wondering if they are passing this around:</p><p><img height="240" src="http://www.tvland.com/shows/brady_bunch/images/shows/pic8_lg.jpg" width="320" border="0" /></p><p>i just got an idea for my next tattoo.&nbsp; thank you sir.</p>

[Furtherman]

<strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Furtherman</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I'm wondering if they are passing this around:</p><p><img height="240" src="http://www.tvland.com/shows/brady_bunch/images/shows/pic8_lg.jpg" width="320" border="0" /></p><p>i just got an idea for my next tattoo.&nbsp; thank you sir.</p><p>TV Land?&nbsp; Well, it's your body.</p>

[narc]

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PPCCcXarkc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PPCCcXarkc</a></p><p>
This is the final copy of the video that was revealed as part of the ARG this summer. The ARG is apparently going to wrap up soon. <br><p>
Personally, I think it's more interesting what isn't revealed than what is, as is often the case with Lost.

[Don Stugots]

<strong>Furtherman</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Furtherman</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I'm wondering if they are passing this around:</p><p><img height="240" src="http://www.tvland.com/shows/brady_bunch/images/shows/pic8_lg.jpg" width="320" border="0" /></p><p>i just got an idea for my next tattoo.&nbsp; thank you sir.</p><p>TV Land?&nbsp; Well, it's your body.</p><p>no, i meant that hairless muscular chest of greg brady.&nbsp; </p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by STUGOTS1 on 9-9-06 @ 11:30 PM</span>

[Tall_James]

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PPCCcXarkc" target="_self">The &quot;Numbers&quot; are explained (somewhat) in the final version of the Alvar Hanso&nbsp;video...</a>

[LordJezo]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>Tall_James</strong> wrote:<br /><a target="_self" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PPCCcXarkc">The &quot;Numbers&quot; are explained (somewhat) in the final version of the Alvar Hanso video...</a><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Wow, that's nuts.&nbsp; The video combined with that wiki sort of page on it all gives some really crazy info on what's going on in the show.&nbsp; Not only do they explain the numbers but also the purpose of the DHARMA project, the island, the sickness..</p><p>Some core things are still missing though, like how the island has special powers, how it creates things based on what you are thinking, the smoke monster, and why time is different on the island.&nbsp; Well, that and a whole bunch more..&nbsp; but I suppose that is needed in order to get another 4 seasons out of this show.<br /></p>

[Doctor Manhattan]

and why time is different on the island <p>&nbsp;</p><p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3">Is time different on the island? I don't remember anything about that, just that it's still 2004 on the island (the show started on the same day but by the end of Season 2 only 65 days have past on the island since 9/22/2004 while it's been 2 years for us in the real world)</font></p><p>how it creates things based on what you are thinking</p><p><font face="Times New Roman" color="#000066" size="3">Does the island create things based on thought? There has been speculation that Walt is able to but he may have been able to do that before the crash.</font></p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Doctor Manhattan on 9-11-06 @ 1:26 PM</span>

[LordJezo]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>Doctor Manhattan</strong> wrote:<br />and why time is different on the island <p> </p><p><font size="3" face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066">Is time different on the island? I don't remember anything about that, just that it's still 2004 on the island (the show started on the same day but by the end of Season 2 only 65 days have past on the island since 9/22/2004 while it's been 2 years for us in the real world)</font></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>The producers have hinted at in in interviews.. I'll have to go find a link or something to it but I am pretty sure it is at least a theory that has been put out there by the people in charge.&nbsp;</p>

[IamFogHat]

I just want to throw out there a really funny moment I saw while watching season 2 on DVD that I can't remember if I caught the first time, it's an episode or two after Sawyer steals all the guns, and Kate comes up to him on the beach and he's reading a Judy Blume book.&nbsp; It really made me laugh.&nbsp; And I work in a library so I see those stupid books every day.<br />

[narc]

<hr color="cococo" align="left"></font><strong>IamFogHat</strong> wrote:<br>I just want to throw out there a really funny moment I saw while watching season 2 on DVD that I can't remember if I caught the first time, it's an episode or two after Sawyer steals all the guns, and Kate comes up to him on the beach and he's reading a Judy Blume book. It really made me laugh. And I work in a library so I see those stupid books every day.<br /><hr color="cococo" align="left"><p></p>

<img src="http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/0440904196.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg"
<br><p>It's where I learned menstruation + falsies = hysterical hijinx!

[Furtherman]

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07yX-PDJGmo" target="_blank">Lost Season 3 Promo</a>

[Don Stugots]

looks cool.&nbsp; i cant wait.&nbsp;

[narc]

<hr color="cococo" align="left"></font><strong>narc</strong> wrote:<br><hr color="cococo" align="left"></font><strong>IamFogHat</strong> wrote:<br>I just want to throw out there a really funny moment I saw while watching season 2 on DVD that I can't remember if I caught the first time, it's an episode or two after Sawyer steals all the guns, and Kate comes up to him on the beach and he's reading a Judy Blume book. It really made me laugh. And I work in a library so I see those stupid books every day.<br /><hr color="cococo" align="left"><p></p>

<img src="http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/0440904196.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg"
<br><p>It's where I learned menstruation + falsies = hysterical hijinx!<hr color="cococo" align="left"><p></p>
Someone for the love of god make that my mod quote! I've learned my lesson for making fun of the tragic falling death of Eric Clapton's son. It was in no way comical, and his father is not remotely overrated as a guitarist and musician!

[IamFogHat]

Am I the only one watching this dumb recap hosted by Henry Gale for some reason?

[Don Stugots]

i am but only because there is nothing else on and tivo didnt record anything for me today.

[suggums]

im tempted but the tv is upstairs<br />

[IamFogHat]

It's going to be really odd seeing Walt who probably looks like a teenager now considering they've only been on the island for like 65 days at this point.

[Don Stugots]

they should work that into the storyline.

[Furtherman]

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfgsH2SbZuA" target="_blank">Another clever promo.</a>

[JustJon]

Watched the first segment, got annoyed watching it and turned on the xbox.<br />

[Doctor Manhattan]

<strong>IamFogHat</strong> wrote:<br />It's going to be really odd seeing Walt who probably looks like a teenager now considering they've only been on the island for like 65 days at this point. <p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3">I think that is one reason they got Micheal and Walt off the island. When that kid showed up on My Name is Earl (Boogie Man episode) he looked a bit older than Walt did during Season 1. When Walt showed up at the end of the season he seemed to look the same age, but I'm sure if he shows up again it will be hard to keep his 2004 appearence going.</font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman" color="#000066" size="3">I watched it last night, just to be sure I didn't miss anything before next week's Season 3 show. </font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman" color="#000066" size="3">I didn't miss anything.</font></p>

[Doctor Manhattan]

<strong>Furtherman</strong> wrote:<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfgsH2SbZuA" target="_blank">Another clever promo.</a> <p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" size="3">Double damn on you.</font></p><ol><li><font face="times new roman,times,serif" size="3">I thought you said &quot;Porno&quot;</font> <div /></li><li><font face="times new roman,times,serif" size="3">I don't think she wanted to come back.</font></li></ol>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Doctor Manhattan on 9-28-06 @ 3:35 PM</span>

[narc]

<hr color="cococo" align="left"></font><strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br>they should work that into the storyline.<hr color="cococo" align="left"><p></p>
They are.

[Doctor Manhattan]

<p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3">Oh Boy </font><font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3">Oh Boy </font><font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3">Oh Boy </font><font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3">Oh Boy </font><font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3">Oh Boy&nbsp;Oh Boy&nbsp;Oh Boy&nbsp;Oh Boy&nbsp;Oh Boy&nbsp;Oh Boy!!!</font>&nbsp;</p>

[booster11373]

Im getting giddy over here!

[Doctor Manhattan]

<font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3">Now I didn't expect that. I need to see that opening again. Who is Bill?</font>

[feralBoy]

<p>I've only watched lost from DVD's.&nbsp; Are there normally this many commercials?</p>

[johnniewalker]

Nice, mandatory evangeline lilly shower scene!<br />

[TooCute]

I guess Bill is fake henry?

[Doctor Manhattan]

<font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3">What the fuck is going on?</font>

[cupcakelove]

Someone already said it, but I think its worth saying again, there are a shitload of commercials in this episode.<br />

[TooCute]

ben i mean not bill

[feralBoy]

So, it looks like sawyer is in one of those experiment cages that they put rats and monkeys in.

[TooCute]

or bears and orangutans

[cupcakelove]

It looks to me like they are all in some kind of experiment.<br />

[feralBoy]

That was kinda messed up with the sandwich.&nbsp; I would definitely hold a grudge.

[cupcakelove]

Ok, I think at this pace there might be 20 minutes worth of actual show, and 40 of commercials.&nbsp; This sucks.<br />

[Doctor Manhattan]

<strong>feralBoy</strong> wrote:<br />So, it looks like sawyer is in one of those experiment cages that they put rats and monkeys in. <p>Or Polar Bears, Boars and Black Horses.</p>

[johnniewalker]

<strong>Doctor Manhattan</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>feralBoy</strong> wrote:<br />So, it looks like sawyer is in one of those experiment cages that they put rats and monkeys in. <p>Or Polar Bears, Boars and Black Horses.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>Ah ha<br />

[feralBoy]

<br /><strong>feralBoy</strong> wrote:<br />So, it looks like sawyer is in one of those experiment cages that they put rats and monkeys and orangutans and regular&nbsp;bears and polar bears and boars and black&nbsp;horses&nbsp;in. <p>Sorry for not being more specific before.</p><p>EDIT - BTW, you guys are mean and hurtful.</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by feralBoy on 10-4-06 @ 9:53 PM</span>

[cupcakelove]

I have a feeling they got all this info about Jack from Jack.&nbsp; What ever drug they gave him and the others probably made them give it all up, not remember it, and now they're using it to manipulate them for some reason.<br />

[booster11373]

Well no answers but plenty of tension still.

[Don Stugots]

<strong>feralBoy</strong> wrote:<br /><br /><strong>feralBoy</strong> wrote:<br />So, it looks like sawyer is in one of those experiment cages that they put rats and monkeys and orangutans and regular&nbsp;bears and polar bears and boars and black&nbsp;horses&nbsp;in. <p>Sorry for not being more specific before.</p><p>EDIT - BTW, you guys are mean and hurtful.</p><span class="post_edited">This message was edited by feralBoy on 10-4-06 @ 9:53 PM</span> <p>am i the king of mean and hurtful?&nbsp; i try to be.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>i thought the episode was great.&nbsp; the others are breaking the will of Sawyer, kate and Jack.&nbsp; With Sawyer just old fashioned improsionment, Jack mind games and Kate terror.&nbsp; i did miss Locke.</p>

[suggums]

<p>wowwwwwwwwwww</p><p>what a great startoff to the third season. i guess because jack is like a caged animal i was rooting for him a lot more than i ever have and just wanted him to break that bitches neck once he got out.&nbsp; she was putting up such a phony fucking front the whole time.&nbsp; and we still dont know who &quot;He&quot; is.&nbsp; i thought thats who zeke was taking kate to at the beginning, but it was just fake henry (who i guess is still a candidate for &quot;He,&quot; except he discredited himself last season).&nbsp; i just keep wondering what the fuck they're gonna start doing to them.&nbsp; the next episode probably wont deal with those 3 at all and just focus on camp/hatch, so im guessing we have to wait 2 weeks to find out what happens next with them.<br /></p>

[narc]

I kinda wish Jack's dad had been fucking Jack's ex-wife. That would have been really screwed up. The overriding theme I got are that the others don't seem to be a united front at all, and I think that might play a role. What was up with that other kid who was imprisoned anyway?<br />

[King Imp]

<p>If it weren't for the fact the the beginning of the first season was completely awesome, I would say that tonight's was the best so far. That was cool seeing them come out of their village and seeing the plane tear apart over their heads. Oh, and this new chick is pretty hot as well. </p><p>So, did anyone get the notion that Zeke might be gay based on what he said to Kate about her not being &quot;his type?&quot; Come on, how can that piece of ass not be everyone's type? </p>

[johnniewalker]

I always wondered how long they were going to keep doing the flashback thing.&nbsp; Really cool idea that worked really well the first year, but I'm not quite sure where they are going nowadays.&nbsp; The premiere did what every episode has done, do just enough to keep people watching, while moving extremely slow with the storyline.<br />

[Plethora]

<p>At the open of the show, Juliette retrieves a CD from a rack of CDs, opens it and places it in a CD player.&nbsp; The CD <em>case</em> was <em>Talking Heads - Speaking In Tongues</em>.&nbsp; Of this I am <em>certain</em>.&nbsp; The track that actually played was <em>Downtown </em>by <em>Petula Clark</em>... </p><p>And this clearly means-- what?&nbsp; Oh I have a phone call.</p><p>PS - My avatar made me post this.</p>

[blakjeezis]

I'm just happy to see that Jack is still unable to go any longer than 4 seconds without crying. And seriously, is Sawyer not the fucking best? With his fucking fish biscuit. Classic. And I think the kid imprisoned with Sawyer is one of The Others; definately a plant to fuck with him.

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by blakjeezis on 10-5-06 @ 2:43 AM</span>

[narc]

<p>And you may find yourself watching the Season 3 premiere of Lost</p><p>And you may ask yourself &quot;Why are they listening to downtown when the album cover looks like <em>Speaking in Tongues?&quot;</em> <br /></p>

[IamFogHat]

That opening almost made me crap my pants<em>&nbsp;</em>I was so blown away.&nbsp; BTW what Stephen King book were they reading?&nbsp; My girlfriend pointed out that it might be another clue.

[LongIslandRob]

the Stephen king book was Carrie.

[Furtherman]

<p>Fantastic season opener.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>But the biggest revelation I got out of it?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>That island is fucking HUGE!&nbsp;</p>

[ChrisTheCop]

<p>So..that explains where Goodwin got his normal clothes!</p><p>Those opening 5 minutes....what a work of art. I was initially disappointed, then intrigued, then shocked and finally fucking amazed! </p><p>Thanks to Tivo, the 1st commercial break was spent by me doing my John Locke imitation:</p><p>&quot;we're gonna have to watch that again.&quot;</p><p>And yeah, the island's big. an hour to get to the tail section? </p><p>Cant wait til we find out when Ben got the idea to take the kids (and why). It happened the 1st night...sooo...maybe next episode?&nbsp;</p>

[Doctor Manhattan]

<strong>Furtherman</strong> wrote:<br /><p>But the biggest revelation I got out of it? </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" size="3">After re-watching it. I think the biggest revelation about &quot;the others&quot; is the fact that they were looking up at the sky before they saw Flight 815. If you watch it you see them looking up in random directions and finally hearing the plane and turning to see it. They were expecting a&nbsp;plane&nbsp;but did not know when it would be there, or exactly which direction it would be coming from.</font></p><p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" size="3">That is confusing me because at the end of last season it seemed to be that Desmond accidently brought them down. At least he was sure of that. I guess he could be wrong. and he didn't crash the plane after all unless the others were able to ensure that Desmond and Kelvin were out of the hatch long enough on Sept 22, 2004</font></p><p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" size="3" /></p><p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" size="3">Juliet said she had Jack's father's autopsy report. Does this mean they are in touch with the outside world? This is 2 months after the plane crashed, they had their &quot;lists&quot; thanks to Ethan, so they knew Jack's name and could have just looked up his info.</font></p><p>So..that explains where Goodwin got his normal clothes! </p><p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" size="3">Well, we did see that the other's have lockers (Medical Leave) before, so I always assumed they had regular clothes (I wonder if the regular clothes have Dharma logos on the tags)</font></p><p>And yeah, the island's big. an hour to get to the tail section? </p><p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" size="3">I'm going to have to watch &quot;The other 48 days&quot; again, but I thought Goodwin was there just minutes after the tailies get to the beach. I don't think it took that long for them to swim to shore.</font></p>

[narc]

I think they're still in touch with the Hanso foundation in some way. But yeah that was my first thought when they said they had Jack's whole life right there in a nice little binder clip. They must be in touch with the outside still. <br />

[JustJon]

I guess I'm out of the book club.<br />

[JimBeam]

<p>They originally went outside when they felt the rumbles of what appeared to be an earthquake.</p><p>Then they went outside and looked up and saw the plane come apart.</p><p>What caused the earthquake like action to happen ?</p><p>It didnt seem like the girl watching over &quot; Glass Jaw &quot; Jack ( nice getting knocked out by one punch from a dame ) had a nice feeling about the leader guy ( his name has just slipped me .</p><p>The Carrie book is obvioulsy a reference to Walt's powers.</p>

[Doctor Manhattan]

<strong>JimBeam</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Then they went outside and looked up and saw the plane come apart.</p><p>What caused the earthquake like action to happen ? </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3">Watch it again. They are looking for something in the air, they are looking in different directions until they hear the plane (Jet, breaking apart, etc)&nbsp;and then turn to&nbsp;look right at the plane coming apart. They are looking in the sky for a little while&nbsp;before they&nbsp;know to look at flight 815. This s very obvious when you watch it again.</font></p><p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3">The Swan station's system failure is probably causing the &quot;earthquake&quot;.</font></p>

[Doctor Manhattan]

<strong>JimBeam</strong> wrote:<br /><p>It didnt seem like the girl watching over &quot; Glass Jaw &quot; Jack ( nice getting knocked out by one punch from a dame ) had a nice feeling about the leader guy ( his name has just slipped me . </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3">You mean Ben, <em>AKA Henry &quot;Frenry&quot;Gale</em>?</font></p>

[JimBeam]

<p>So I'm guessing that whenever they feel the earthquake they must know that something is approaching in the sky ?</p><p>Possibly ?</p>

[lindak]

<p>Loved it.&nbsp; First few minutes was very interesting....thought it was a flashback at first.</p><p>Sawyer rocks.&nbsp; Locked in a cage and he still brings teh funny... and hot too. </p>

[Aggie]

<p>Has anyone been keeping track of what areas of the island we have seen from the 'secret' map? </p><p>I think 'Hydra', where they are keeping Jack, was on the map Locke saw but I'm not positive. It may be interesting to look into.</p>

[Doctor Manhattan]

<strong>lindak</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Loved it.&nbsp; First few minutes was very interesting....thought it was a flashback at first. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" size="3">Well, it was a flashback (back to Day One: <strong>9/22/2004</strong>), just not related to the main flashback storyline (Jack: after his wife left him but before his dad died in Sydney)</font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Juliet was upset about something (while listening to the music, you see she's trying to cheer herself up) so I imagine they will have a flashback episode for her to show us what's up with her.</font></p>

[johnniewalker]

<strong>Doctor Manhattan</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>lindak</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Loved it. First few minutes was very interesting....thought it was a flashback at first. </p><p> </p><p><font size="3" face="times new roman,times,serif">Well, it was a flashback (back to Day One: <strong>9/22/2004</strong>), just not related to the main flashback storyline (Jack: after his wife left him but before his dad died in Sydney)</font></p><p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">Juliet was upset about something (while listening to the music, you see she's trying to cheer herself up) so I imagine they will have a flashback episode for her to show us what's up with her.</font></p><p>&nbsp;</p>I guess that&nbsp; is one way to keep the flashback gimmick rolling.&nbsp; That would kind of ruin the mystique of being an &quot;other&quot;&nbsp; to me if they had normal lives.&nbsp; <br />

[Doctor Manhattan]

damn it!<p></p><p><span class="post_edited"><font color="#000066" size="3">Oh well, better use this post for something:</font></span></p><p><span class="post_edited"><font color="#000066" size="3">I read that we won't see what happened to the hatch people (Locke, Eko and Desmond)&nbsp;until the 3rd episode this season. Damn Damon and Carton!</font></span></p><p><span class="post_edited"><font color="#000066" size="3">But it might be when we learn about Locke's Legs.</font></span></p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Doctor Manhattan on 10-6-06 @ 4:13 PM</span>

[Doctor Manhattan]

&nbsp; <p>&nbsp;</p><strong>johnniewalker</strong> wrote: <p>&nbsp;</p><p>I guess that&nbsp; is one way to keep the flashback gimmick rolling.&nbsp; That would kind of ruin the mystique of being an &quot;other&quot;&nbsp; to me if they had normal lives.&nbsp; <br /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3">Well, they live in a suburb, make cupcakes, have bookclubs. I saw a Gazebo in their neighborhood. Seems like they do live normal lives when they aren't &quot;working&quot;</font></p>

[johnniewalker]

<strong>Doctor Manhattan</strong> wrote:<br /> <p> </p><strong>johnniewalker</strong> wrote: <p> </p><p>I guess that is one way to keep the flashback gimmick rolling. That would kind of ruin the mystique of being an &quot;other&quot; to me if they had normal lives. <br /></p><p> </p><p><font size="3" face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066">Well, they live in a suburb, make cupcakes, have bookclubs. I saw a Gazebo in their neighborhood. Seems like they do live normal lives when they aren't &quot;working&quot;</font></p><p>&nbsp;</p>good point sir, they could do pre-airplane crash flashback stuff.&nbsp; I was thinking it would tough to do flashbacks on their lives pre-island if there was a pre-island for them.<br />

[ChrisTheCop]

<p>Aggie, (hi), for some reason I cant cut and paste today, but The Aqua station is definitely not NAMED on the map. there are several stations that arent named, and one in the center with a big &quot;?&quot;</p><p>If you google &quot;lost map&quot;..look for the one thats clearer than what u see on tv. You can read all of his notes about the map...its pretty interesting!</p><p><br />&nbsp;</p>

[jax]

I think what &quot;caused the earthquake&quot; was when Desmond, for the first time, &nbsp;didn't enter the numbers into the computer on schedule.&nbsp; And the numbers not being punched in on time was what caused the plane to crash.&nbsp; What was the song Desmond wakes up to or plays&nbsp; he first time you see him going through his routine in the hatch?&nbsp; Was it also Downtown?&nbsp; Juliette isn't Desmond's ex fiance is she?

[Farside]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>jax</strong> wrote:<br />What was the song Desmond wakes up to or plays he first time you see him going through his routine in the hatch? Was it also Downtown? Juliette isn't Desmond's ex fiance is she?<p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>The song was &quot;Make Your Own Kind of Music&quot; by &quot;Mama&quot; Cass Elliot of The Mamas &amp; The Papas.</p><p>One song we heard in this episode that <strong>was</strong> heard before was the one that was on Jacks radio while he was sitting in his car watching his wife. The name of the song<font face="Arial" /> was <font face="Arial">Moonlight Serenade by </font><font face="Arial">the Glenn Miller Orchestra.</font> It is the same song that came over the short wave radio that Hurley gave Sayid to fix in The Long Con episode.<br /></p><p>And, no, Juliette isn't Penny although they do look similar. Different actresses.<br /></p><blockquote /><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Doogie]

<p>But the biggest revelation I got out of it?</p><p>We also learned who infiltrated Ana-Lucia's camp. So it will be interesting to see the story of when they kill him. The opener was another &quot;Am I watching the right show&quot; type of moment. That is what I thought with the opening of the second season. I really wanted to wait a bit to start downloading the shows so I can watch them one on top of the other, but fuck it. </p>

[ChrisTheCop]

Doog (hi), what do you mean we learned that? We already knew about Goodwin, yeah?<br />

[LordJezo]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>JimBeam</strong> wrote:<br /><p>The Carrie book is obvioulsy a reference to Walt's powers.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Or is it?&nbsp; I hope the answers can be found <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=666lbj8RlbE" target="_blank">here</a>. You can really apply that to the show.&nbsp; &quot;Things may change, my friend&quot;.&nbsp; &quot;Maybe we'll meet again&quot;, &quot;This may be our last goodbye&quot;... it's like the show, except in done in the greatest music ever put together.<br /></p>

[booster11373]

<p>Here's what I figured out after much thought.</p><p>Flight 815 wasn't brought to the Island on purpose, if it had been the Others would have been better prepared to capture the survivors. at least I think so</p><p>The fact that the plane wasn't brought there would have big implications in my book.</p>

[IamFogHat]

<p>No hatch people until the third episode?&nbsp; Jesus tapdancing christ, Locke, Ekko, and Desmond are my favorite characters on the show!</p><p>Has anyone addressed why Charlie is so oddly pleased when he finds out the three aforementioned gents haven't come back from the hatch yet at the end of season 2?&nbsp; When he's talking to Claire?&nbsp; I'm so wierded out&nbsp; by that scene.&nbsp; Why didn't he tell anyone they need help?</p>

[ChrisTheCop]

<p>Well, I think he was just happy to see Claire (and her demon baby!), and he himself just survived the implosion/explosion...but hopefully as soon as they cut away from him, I'm sure he called 911.</p><p>Along those lines, the ads for this week, show Sayid being concerned for kate, jack, hugo, and james, and organizing a search party (which I'm sure will run into Hugo along their way)....but yeah, what about a rescue party for Locke, Des, and Echo??? Especially since we wont find out about them til NEXT week! &nbsp;</p><p>And I disagree that the crash is CERTAINly an accident. Ben did seem PRETTY prepared; had an immediate action plan...and no one was wondering WHY he needed lists, etc... Maybe they all expected a eplane to come, but didnt know WHEN. Remember, the survivors are all pretty much connected to the rich guy from the end of last season... and I think we'll find out this season how the OTHERS are connected to him as well, other than just mere employees.&nbsp;</p><p>And now that the magnet's dead, can Locke walk? Will Sun lose the baby? and does the black chick's cancer return??? stay tuned.&nbsp;</p>

[extracheese]

<p>&nbsp;</p><p>no - its not scenes from next week...the new thing with these shows is that they show a mix of great scenes from the next handful of shows or later in the season and simply say &quot;coming up on ....&quot; or seomething like that.</p><p>they dont say &quot;next week on....&quot;.</p><p>sneaky bastards.</p>

[IamFogHat]

<p>I'm going to be annoyed if this Jack in the Hydra/Sawyer and Kate locked up storyline goes on for more than just this week.&nbsp; </p><p>Anybody think we're going to find out who Adam and Eve are this season?&nbsp; The only reason I'm wondering is because Jack's dad seems to be coming up again and they have his autopsy and if you recall they found 'Adam and Eve' with his broken casket in the caves in season one.</p>

[JustJon]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>IamFogHat</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I'm going to be annoyed if this Jack in the Hydra/Sawyer and Kate locked up storyline goes on for more than just this week. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>The first six eps of the season are about JAck/Kate/Sawyer trying to escape.&nbsp;</p>

[IamFogHat]

<strong>JustJon</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><strong>IamFogHat</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I'm going to be annoyed if this Jack in the Hydra/Sawyer and Kate locked up storyline goes on for more than just this week. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>The first six eps of the season are about JAck/Kate/Sawyer trying to escape.&nbsp;</p><p>After tonight I don't think I'm going to be as annoyed as I thought I'd be.&nbsp; </p><p>What did everyone think tonight?&nbsp; So whose baby is Sun really carrying?&nbsp; How would we ever know?&nbsp; The Island doesn't exactly have paternity tests.</p>

[cupcakelove]

I liked last nights episode, but the comercials are still rediculous.&nbsp; It seems to me that Ben and Juliette are old lovers.&nbsp; That would explain the tension between them, and the way that girl acted when she walked in on them.&nbsp; At first I thought that Juliette might secretly have a desire to undermine whatever the others are doing, but she seems very involved, it appeared she was helping run the costruction Sawyer and Kate were working on, and she took care of the Sawyer situation when it got out of control.&nbsp; The others getting the boat was no surprise.&nbsp; I don't know what Sayid was expecting to happen, he might have been getting desperate, because there was no way his plan would work.&nbsp; I'm surprised at how quickly Jack broke.&nbsp; Ben knew exactly what it took to do it.&nbsp; Maybe he knew he would be easy, and that's why they are putting Sawyer and Kate through manaul labor, to weaken them so they are easier to break.&nbsp; I'm really looking forward to seeing what is going on with the other side of the island, looks like the smoke monster is coming back!<br />

[Doctor Manhattan]

<strong>cupcakelove</strong> wrote:<br />I'm surprised at how quickly Jack broke.&nbsp; Ben knew exactly what it took to do it.&nbsp; <p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3">That was bad. Benry showed Jack a few seconds of the Red Socks winning in 2004 and Jack is just about ready to join &quot;the others&quot;? Is Jack from Boston?</font></p><p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3">During the first season they had the reference to the Red Socks (&quot;They will never win the world series&quot; a phrase that Sawyer heard Jack's Dad say) How soon after that episode did the Red Socks win?</font></p><p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3">So Ben (Henry, Fenry, Benry Gale) Linus&nbsp;was born on the island?</font></p>

[tbonesteak]

<p>The show is going to great lengths to make the &quot;others&quot; seem like ordinary people.&nbsp; But did they ever explain why that bullet bounced off the man in the woods last season?&nbsp; </p><p>The other thing I keep coming back to from last season is the episode where we see what happens to Claire when she was captured.&nbsp; I thought that was a crucial part of the story.&nbsp; But they never mention it again on the show and they never bring it up on any of the recap&nbsp;episodes&nbsp;they show every once in a while.&nbsp; </p><p>Next week's episode looks killer.&nbsp; I really want to know what happened to Locke, Eko and Desmond and the other hatch people.&nbsp; And I agree that there's something off about Charlie now.&nbsp; In the last episode of season 2, he has this weird look on his face when he runs into Locke crying in the woods.&nbsp; And then he helps Eko with the dynamite.&nbsp; Was he still pissed at Locke for breaking up his fake marriage with Claire earlier last season?</p>

[Tall_James]

<strong>Doctor Manhattan</strong> wrote:<br /><p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3" /></p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3">So Ben (Henry, Fenry, Benry Gale) Linus&nbsp;was born on the island?</font><p>He's probably the son of one of the original Dharma Initiative scientists that were on the island originally.&nbsp; </p><p>One thing that struck me as kind of creepy was his reaction to Jack's disbelief of a Red Sox World Series win.&nbsp; He seemed almost hurt that Jack didn't believe him, much like a child.&nbsp; </p>

[Don Stugots]

<strong>Tall_James</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Doctor Manhattan</strong> wrote:<br /><font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3" /><font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3"><font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3">So Ben (Henry, Fenry, Benry Gale) Linus&nbsp;was born on the island?</font><p>He's probably the son of one of the original Dharma Initiative scientists that were on the island originally.&nbsp; </p><p>One thing that struck me as kind of creepy was his reaction to Jack's disbelief of a Red Sox World Series win.&nbsp; He seemed almost hurt that Jack didn't believe him, much like a child.&nbsp; </p><p>how funny was it seeing him explain it?&nbsp; &quot;it-itss true, they came back 3 games to 0 to beat the yankees&quot; &quot;HAHAHAHA&quot;.</p><p>i am a yankee fan but that was funny.&nbsp; </p></font>

[Doogie]

<p>I'm surprised at how quickly Jack broke. Ben knew exactly what it took to do it.</p><p><font size="3">Just finished watching it now. I have to download it over here, and can sometimes take a lil bit of time...We didnt really see Jack break. We did see total disbelief and wonderment on his face. I dont know if Henry is an evil genius but rather a guy that just learns by observation as was evidence during the Sawyer/Kate cage sequence. As for him being the illigetimate child. I can see that happening. I can also see he was the head of the project due to his parentage and it being 'passed onto' him. That is a possibility.</font></p><p><font size="3">I thought Sun popping that chick in the boat was awesome. Throws these people off and their intimidation factor. I was happy she shot her. </font></p><p><font size="3">One good thing about the DL. No commercials and no &quot;coming next week on '<em>Lost</em>'.&quot; I see it when I see it. </font></p>

[Doctor Manhattan]

<strong>Doogie76</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font size="3">One good thing about the DL. No commercials and no &quot;coming next week on '<em>Lost</em>'.&quot; I see it when I see it. </font></p><p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3">I DL'ed it too, the weird thing I've noticed is that the 2 episodes and the clip show from the week before (narrated by Henry/Ben) are all exactly 42:15 I hope they didn't cut anthing to make them that length (to use 2 of &quot;the numbers&quot;)</font></p>

[JustJon]

I just loved Jack's reaction to the Sox winning the series.&nbsp; The disbelief that they could actually win.<br />

[BeerBandit]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>Doogie76</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p>I'm surprised at how quickly Jack broke. Ben knew exactly what it took to do it.<p>&nbsp;</p><p><font size="3"><br /></font></p><p><font size="3">I thought Sun popping <em>that chick</em> in the boat was awesome. <br /></font></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I don't know what Sun was afraid of.&nbsp; Trixie couldn't even kill Mr. Hurst.&nbsp;</p>

[JimBeam]

<p>I loved how Sawyer poured the water out of the canteen.</p><p>Fantastic.</p><p>I dont think Jack &quot; broke &quot; I just think he was amazed that there was some contact with the real world.</p><p>I'm guessing the guy Rousseau's kid was looking for was the guy that escaped with Sawyer.</p><p>Did anybody catch the name on the dock ?</p><p>It said &quot; Pala Dock &quot; or something like that.</p><p>Not sure if it mean anything at all but I did notice it.</p>

[drusilla]

i think it said &quot;pala ferry&quot;<br />

[JimBeam]

<p>Yes it was ferry. I was shakey on that.</p><p>Still I wonder what if anything it means.</p>

[Doctor Manhattan]

<font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3">So, Desmond&nbsp;has the same power as Isaac from Heroes (Future Sight)?</font>

[johnniewalker]

<strong>Doctor Manhattan</strong> wrote:<br /><font size="3" face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066">So, Desmond has the same power as Isaac from Heroes (Future Sight)?</font><p>&nbsp;</p>Where did he get that t-shirt?&nbsp; This was a wild episode.&nbsp; <br />

[blakjeezis]

Not just wild, it was a fucking GREAT episode! Remember when the island was magical? Waaaay back in the first season? The horse and Jack's father and the smoke monster and the invisible dinosaur and the polar bear and Locke's whole bit. They lost (no pun intended) some of that with the hatch and the tailies and the others. Not that those things were bad, not at all, they were fantastic, but it was at the expense of episodes like tonight's. It was cool to get that &quot;WTF?&quot; feeling again. <br />

[Doctor Manhattan]

<p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3">So what is up with that new chick talking down to Hurley like that?</font></p><p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3"><img src="http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/9484/lost30301id0.jpg" border="0" /></font></p><p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3">&quot;When were you planning on telling us this, Hurley?&quot;&nbsp;After Hurley told&nbsp;her that Jack is not coming back. Didn't Hurley just get back to the beach. Was he supposed to use his cell phone to tell this chick on his way back? What a cunt! She's on the show for 10 seconds and I already don't trust this bitch!</font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman" color="#000066" size="3">You don't talk to Hurley like that!</font></p>

[Tall_James]

Perhaps Desmond and Walt share the same abilities.

[Doctor Manhattan]

<strong>Tall_James</strong> wrote:<br />Perhaps Desmond and Walt share the same abilities. <p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3">You mean Desmond controlled Locke in some way, and prompted the &quot;speech&quot;? I don't think Walt ever predicted the future.</font></p>

[cupcakelove]

Desmond probably picked up his ability from whatever happened when he turned the key.&nbsp; Or maybe he had it all along, and it just became stronger after the explosion.&nbsp; So Locke used to be a gun running pot dealer?&nbsp; Makes him seem like an asshole to come after Charlie like he did.&nbsp; He has a problem, and he's busting his ass making a sweat lodge and asking Charlie to stand guard, all for himself, while all he did for Charlie was punch him a bunch of times.<br />

[ChrisTheCop]

<p>...or maybe we're back to the time line theory.</p><p>would explain Desmond's comment AND the new chick thinking it took Hurley awhile to tell. </p><p>Personally, I find every ep that deals with Locke is a winner.&nbsp;</p>

[Fallon]

<p>My&nbsp;DVR decided to get new firmware at 9 and I didn't get Lost, 30 Rock and the first 20 minutes of of South Park. 30 Rock reruns on Bravo tonight, South Park does too. Gonna have to torrent Lost when I get home.</p><p>Stupid comcast!</p>

[johnniewalker]

<strong>Fallon</strong> wrote:<br /><p>My DVR decided to get new firmware at 9 and I didn't get Lost, 30 Rock and the first 20 minutes of of South Park. 30 Rock reruns on Bravo tonight, South Park does too. Gonna have to torrent Lost when I get home.</p><p>Stupid comcast!</p><p>&nbsp;</p>Get it off of ABC.com They do a decent job of replays and pretty minimal commercials.<br />

[Doogie]

Use torrentspy.com...it is what I use and their are NO commercials whatsoever. I use it due to the lack of network TV where I am at. Hell any good TV for that matter.

[Fallon]

Yeah, that's what I'm using. I suspect it's better quality than abc as well.<br />

[narc]

<p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><strong>cupcakelove</strong> wrote:<br />Desmond probably picked up his ability from whatever happened when he turned the key. Or maybe he had it all along, and it just became stronger after the explosion. So Locke used to be a gun running pot dealer? Makes him seem like an asshole to come after Charlie like he did. He has a problem, and he's busting his ass making a sweat lodge and asking Charlie to stand guard, all for himself, while all he did for Charlie was punch him a bunch of times.<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><blockquote /><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I like that theory. It'd be interesting to see if Locke and Eko got powers or heightened abilities from the hatch explosion.&nbsp;</p><p>I think Locke just fell in with some gentle hippies because he needed to because he was so beat up emotionally from life. &nbsp;</p>

[drusilla]

i agree with that.&nbsp; he found family in them &amp; it was something he was missing his whole life.&nbsp; so he just went along with what they were doing. <br />

[JimBeam]

<p>Yeah I think Locke was only complicit w/ the pot growing because of the family atmosphere.</p><p>Not that he agreed with it just that he didnt care against it.</p><p>I think the Desmond thing is more of a potential time warp in some way. Not powers he has.</p><p>This new chick that got lippy w/ Hurley is&nbsp;kinda hot though.</p><p>Looks like they might be thinking of killing off Eko.</p><p>Man these guys really dont put up with the whole being arrested thing do they.</p>

[Servo]

<p>Here's&nbsp;a little nitpick, but it kinda gnawed at me&nbsp;- when Hurley ran into naked Desmond in the jungle, he says something along the lines of &quot;so, the hatch blew all your clothes off?&quot;&nbsp; But how would Hurley have known anything about what happened to&nbsp;the hatch?&nbsp; He was with Kate, Jack and Sawyer at the time, captured by the others.&nbsp; All he knew was the bright light in the sky and &quot;vibrations.&quot;&nbsp; Right?&nbsp; Or did I miss something?</p>

[JimBeam]

I thought Hurley had seen the blown up hatch and/or that Desmond had mentioned something about it.

[ChrisTheCop]

<p>Ok. I just rewatched it. Hurley met up with Locke and Charlie before meeting up with Desmond. So, although we dont see him being told about it, its feasible to assume that they told him. After all, when we come back from commercial, he's just finishing up telling THEM about Jack, James, Kate and Ben. </p><p>Now, during the dream sequence at the airport; when Locke is looking around for people to help, and looks at Charlie, Claire and Aaron, Boone says, &quot;theyll be okay....for awhile.&quot; I took this to mean, dont worry about them this season, but next season might be all about the demon baby...finally!</p><p>Also....maybe...this season....hopefully...we find out just how the hell John Locke gets paralyzed.&nbsp;</p>

[JimBeam]

<p>I'm thinking they'll let us know how Locke got paralayzed very soon.</p><p>But I do still have the opinion that even for the writers the show still evolves and they dont want to cement anything into stone until they're sure they are gonna end the show and wrap it up neetly.</p><p>I think they have an idea on how Locke got in the wheelchair but they may not wanan show us that just in case they wanna keep his flashbacks relevant.</p><p>I think thats the same w/ a lot of the characters.</p><p>They dont want to get them too close to where the character was before the crash because that will limit their flaskbacks.</p>

[Furtherman]

<p>So before the long break, they'll probably kill someone off.</p><p>I hope it isn't Eko.&nbsp; Maybe Henry.&nbsp; For the long shot, I'm thinking Jin.</p>

[Doctor Manhattan]

<strong>JimBeam</strong> wrote:<br /><p>They dont want to get them too close to where the character was before the crash because that will limit their flaskbacks. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="color: #000066">Why would that limit them? The Flashbacks aren't always in chronological order. We had Jack flashbacks of him just before he married Sarah and then later on another flashback of how they met. We had Kate flashbacks of her running from the US Marshal and later on learning <em>What Kate Did</em> to get the Marshal on her case.</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: verdana"><p>&nbsp;</p></span></font></font><span style="color: #000066"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Plus they had a show full of flashbacks of the main characters in the hours/minutes before they took off.</font></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: verdana"><p>&nbsp;</p></span>

[narc]

I'm hoping for a Charlie/Claire sex scene. As long as they don't show Hobbit dick, seeing a little more of Claire would be niiiiiiice. <br />

[suggums]

id love to blaze with locke and snoogs, wheres that bastard been these days anyway<br />

[ChrisTheCop]

In the sweat lodge.<br />

[cupcakelove]

Anyone still doubting if Jack isn't 100% broken?&nbsp; I think everyone acting surprised that Jack was there was for his benefit, to convince him that Juliette is making some decisions.<br />

[cupcakelove]

And now Kate's broken, these guys are good.<br />

[Steels]

<p>You guys think this season is good?&nbsp; The first 36 episodes of this show was incredible and all thereafter have not only been terribly dissapointing but downright silly (with some good exceptions far and few between).&nbsp; Although, I guess ONLY people that still find the show good would still post in the Lost thread heance my confusion.&nbsp; Well, like a few forms of entertainment I once loved that turned to crap I guess expressing myself in such threads is a way to vent.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I find it hard to believe ANY Lost fan feels the same excitement and overal entertainment value of these episodes oppossed to the first season and a half.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p>

[Doctor Manhattan]

<strong>Steels</strong> wrote:<br /><p>You guys think this season is good?&nbsp; The first 36 episodes of this show was incredible and all thereafter have not only been terribly dissapointing but downright silly (with some good exceptions far and few between).&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3">36 would make &quot;Fire + Water&quot; the last incredible episode. Why did you put your line there?</font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman" color="#000066" size="3">I don't think any episode should be judged on its own, they depend on the surrounding episodes too much to pick apart like that. I've enjoyed all of <em>Lost</em> so far</font></p>

[Steels]

<p>Fine, as a whole the show has sucked after the first season and a half. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I stuck around in hopes it would get better and it hasn't.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><br /></p>

[narc]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>cupcakelove</strong> wrote:<br />Anyone still doubting if Jack isn't 100% broken? I think everyone acting surprised that Jack was there was for his benefit, to convince him that Juliette is making some decisions.<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I'm not convinced Jack didn't purposely half-ass the surgery just cause. He's trying to get some leverage back with his whole radiology thing. Kate's just become a weepy simp though.</p><p>I don't think there's been a drop off with the show. The show is different now then it was in the beginning. But I don't think it's any less good. I kinda like that it keeps reinventing itself and doesn't try to do the same things all the time. &nbsp;</p>

[Dan 'Hampton]

I think the main problem is that this seasons' episodes, minus last weeks, have focused on bland charactors.&nbsp; We need more Locke, Desmond, or Echo.&nbsp; I'm sure we'll get it just hang on.<br />

[tbonesteak]

<p>This season has been great so far.&nbsp; I agree that the second half of last season could have been better.&nbsp; There were some really bizarre episodes leading up to the finale (which was killer).&nbsp; But all-in-all, the show keeps getting better and this season is off to a great start.</p><p>The only thing I don't like anymore is the flashbacks.&nbsp; Ronnie is 100% correct.&nbsp; There is WAY too much happening on that island and the flashbacks seem like a distraction to me.&nbsp; </p><p>As for last night's episode, if Jack is right, that he was captured to work on that dude's back, what purpose do Jack and Kate serve.&nbsp; My guess, based on the fact that whats-her-name is&nbsp;a fertility doctor, is that Kate will be impregnated by the others.&nbsp; I don't know what Sawyer is there for but it's funny to watch them fuck with him.</p>

[JimBeam]

<p>I actually enjoy the first few episodes of this year more than I did the first few of last year.</p><p>I think they brough Jack, Kate and Sawyer together, even if they need just Jack, to play them against each other and use them for leverage.</p><p>I totally knew they were bluffing w/ Sawyer and the pacemaker.</p><p>It looks like Eko may buy it next week.</p><p>When you watch and listen to the trailer, right when Eko goes after Locke,&nbsp;it sounds like he gets shot/stabbed w/ something. Although they could just make it look/sound like that.</p>

[Steels]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>JimBeam</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I actually enjoy the first few episodes of this year more than I did the first few of last year.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><br /><p>&nbsp;</p><p>HA!&nbsp; <br /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><blockquote /><p>&nbsp;</p>

[IamFogHat]

<p>Aside from the spinal surgery tease/reveal, what was the point of last night's episode?&nbsp; All the flashbacks did was show us again that Sawyer's a good con artist.&nbsp; Ok, big deal.&nbsp; Was there something I wasn't picking up on last night?</p>

[johnniewalker]

<strong>IamFogHat</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Aside from the spinal surgery tease/reveal, what was the point of last night's episode? All the flashbacks did was show us again that Sawyer's a good con artist. Ok, big deal. Was there something I wasn't picking up on last night?</p><p>&nbsp;</p>The two islands was the big thing to take out of it and what implications it means for the show.<br />

[IamFogHat]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>johnniewalker</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>IamFogHat</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Aside from the spinal surgery tease/reveal, what was the point of last night's episode? All the flashbacks did was show us again that Sawyer's a good con artist. Ok, big deal. Was there something I wasn't picking up on last night?</p><p> </p>The two islands was the big thing to take out of it and what implications it means for the show.<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Yeah what was that about?&nbsp; Haven't they done enough exploring by now to have seen another giant island right next to theirs? &nbsp;</p><p>Oh and if they kill Ekko I will be uber pissed.&nbsp;</p>

[Steels]

<strong>IamFogHat</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Aside from the spinal surgery tease/reveal, what was the point of last night's episode? All the flashbacks did was show us again that Sawyer's a good con artist. Ok, big deal. Was there something I wasn't picking up on last night?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>The show has taken the once brilliant &quot;flashback&quot; aspect and has used it as an obvious crutch for GROSS amounts of filler.&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>The way I see it....ANY form of entertainment that resorts to mass amounts of filler is one that hit the wall.&nbsp; They got little or nothing left and need to fill time with irrelavent garbage.&nbsp;&nbsp; The saving grace is loyal fans that don't want to let go of something they love and refuse to acknowledge the demise.&nbsp; I really think they believe it's as good as it ever was cause they have little else in their lives to hold onto.&nbsp; While that may sound harsh it's the only logical explanation I can think of.&nbsp; Opinions vary but I've been on this board on and off for a while and most seem to be flying blind with loyalty on many levels.</p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[narc]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>IamFogHat</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Aside from the spinal surgery tease/reveal, what was the point of last night's episode? All the flashbacks did was show us again that Sawyer's a good con artist. Ok, big deal. Was there something I wasn't picking up on last night?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>What I took from that is that there is a strong possibility that Sawyer will end up cooperating with the others openly. We may not know it at first, but he's a total opportunist whose only loyalty is to himself, and possibly whatever chick he's involved with. I think they're trying to get to all of them, starting with Jack. I'm not convinced he's as cooperative as they think he is. We still have to get the flashback with Jack's &quot;wild side&quot; when he got all the tattoos. &quot;Badass Jack.&quot; <br /> </p><p>I also liked how freaked out the others seem to be by the survivors. &nbsp;</p>

[feralBoy]

<strong>johnniewalker</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>IamFogHat</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Aside from the spinal surgery tease/reveal, what was the point of last night's episode? All the flashbacks did was show us again that Sawyer's a good con artist. Ok, big deal. Was there something I wasn't picking up on last night?</p><p>&nbsp;</p>The two islands was the big thing to take out of it and what implications it means for the show.<br /><p>Yeah, and they also have a submarine, which seems to explain why they can keep popping up on the beach without ever getting caught.&nbsp; </p><p>How the fuck could they all those people not see that island?&nbsp; There's gotta be some explanation of that coming up.</p>

[Doctor Manhattan]

<font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3">Quick question about the end of Season 2. Was Vincent on the boat with Michael and Walt? If he was How did he get there?</font>

[LongIslandRob]

let's call a spade a spade....the show just isn't that good.&nbsp; It lost 5 million viewers from last year, and it is going off the air for almost 3 months starting in 2 weeks.&nbsp; How many more people won't come back?&nbsp; I'm about to tell Tivo to forget it ever heard of this show...

[King Imp]

<strong>Doctor Manhattan</strong> wrote:<br /><font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3">Quick question about the end of Season 2. Was Vincent on the boat with Michael and Walt? If he was How did he get there?</font> <p>Good question! The last I recall seeing Vincent was when Michael came back to the beach after the botched attempt to get off the island. After that, Vincent hasn't been seen since. </p>

[johnniewalker]

<strong>King Imp</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Doctor Manhattan</strong> wrote:<br /><font size="3" face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066">Quick question about the end of Season 2. Was Vincent on the boat with Michael and Walt? If he was How did he get there?</font> <p>Good question! The last I recall seeing Vincent was when Michael came back to the beach after the botched attempt to get off the island. After that, Vincent hasn't been seen since. </p><p>&nbsp;</p>On wikipedia his credits don't include that show.&nbsp; Who keeps credits of a dog?<br />

[Reephdweller]

I rarely will get into a show if I haven't seen it from the beginning but I have with Lost. I saw a few episodes in the first season but never got the chance to watch it regularly. So I've started watching it with this season and so far I like it. I know I've missed a bunch of stuff, though I did read up a bit on things and some friends have told me some things to fill in the gaps so far so I can follow things along. I'm now tempted to get the first two seasons.

[ChrisTheCop]

<p>I still LOVE this show (even though surprisingly I do have other things going on in my life....steels?)</p><p>I always laugh to myself when I read here about the people who dont &quot;get&quot; the flashbacks. The flashbacks arent filler. They ARE the show. The characters just cant sit around a campfire and tell stories about why theyre on the island. THAT would get old. These people were all brought togther for a reason, and the flashbacks are part of the mystery that we are trying to unravel. If when you see a flashback, you jsut get upset and dismiss it, or take the opportunity to get a drink or go to the bathroom, you are missing a very important part of the show. Its not just about the island and surviving/getting off...its WHY ARE THEY THERE??? and the flashbacks help us figure that out.</p><p>&nbsp;I for one cant wait to find out more about this season's &quot;new&quot; survivors...and how ar we gonna do that? FLASHBACKS!</p><p>It also helps if you think of the island (or islands, now) as another character. It lives. It has a past, and it has a purpose for being in the show too. Personally, I was psyched at the reveal in episode 1 this season about how big it is....and now about how there's (at least) 2 of them! (also if u go back and watch the reveal in episode 1 this season, you can see that there are 2 islands...just looked like 1 from the angle!) The island is cloaked from the outside world, dont you think a sister island could be cloaked from the survivors?&nbsp;</p><p>The show, the island, and the characters in it, are all about mysteries slowly being unvelied. Not to sound like bizarrosteels, but I think the people who are losing faith in this show are the product of a microwave oven, 30minutes delivery or its free, cops solve the crime in 50minutes, rapid fire world. This show is a puzzle. It takes patience. It's not for everyone, but if you liked it when you 1st saw it, theres no reason not to still be enjoying it.</p><p>This show does have its handicap, in that unlike 24 where you could turn in this season for the very 1st time and still thoroughly enjoy the show without knowing anything about the last 5(?) seasons, you really cant get the whole idea of Lost without watching it from the start. And for that reason, its not likely to pick up new viewers each season, and those that get dislillusioned quickly, will leave.&nbsp;</p><p>And for that reason, I do occasionally fear that it will run too long, or suddenly be cancelled, without ever being able to wrap up, and then having to wait 3 years for a 2 hour movie finale. &nbsp; But if youre a loyal viewer toying with the the idea that the writers have lost their way, and are only using filler to entertain us until they get to 100 episodes....rent season 1 (as i just did). There&nbsp; are so many things in season 1 that, although at the time, meant nothing, but now 2 seasons later, make alot of sense. (for example, Michael tells Walt that he'll go find Vincent as soon as it stops raining. Walt looks outside, and it stops raining. Then Walts playing backgammon with Hurley, rolling perfect numbers every time, saying his dad says he's the luckiest guy he knows. At that time, we didnt know Walt was a very special boy, they were just litle instances in a quirky little show. But now they make alot a sense in the grand scheme of the show!)</p><p>This show is NOT for everyone, its not a cookie cutter mystery of obvious good guy vs obvious bad guy,&nbsp; it's harder than that, but if you can fit it into your busy lives, and take the time to enjoy a new kind of entertainment each week, I'm very certain that in the end youll be happy you did.<br /></p>

[tbonesteak]

<p>I've been so caught up with everything on the island that I kind of forgot about Michael and Walt.&nbsp; Are they ever going tp show them again?&nbsp; There are a lot of gaps that need to be filled in with Walt and what happened to him all those days he was captured.&nbsp; Do you think they're gonna make it?&nbsp; </p>

[cupcakelove]

Hell yeah, an Eko episode!<br />

[feralBoy]

That didn't seem very christianly of his brother.

[johnniewalker]

I get more and more confused with every episode, why do the others hate the plane crash people?&nbsp; I don't get it.&nbsp; why dont they just be friends?<br />

[Reephdweller]

The more I see this show the more I like it and I'm becoming more intrigued.

[johnniewalker]

It really seems like Africa needs a better police system.&nbsp; <br />

[feralBoy]

How come echo was scared of the black smoke this time, but wasn't the first time he saw it?

[cupcakelove]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

[cupcakelove]

God damnit, that was my favorite character.<br />

[feralBoy]

<strong>cupcakelove</strong> wrote:<br />God damnit, that was my favorite character.<br /><p>Yeah, mine too.&nbsp; I wasn't a big fan of that episode.</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by feralBoy on 11-1-06 @ 10:02 PM</span>

[booster11373]

<p>How come Jack wouldnt &nbsp;just ask WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE DOING OUT HERE</p><p>Still love the show been there from the beginning.</p><p>Next big mystery will be Who the fuck is Eyepatch?</p>

[johnniewalker]

When was the last time they brought up the black mist thing, I thought that was a lost artifact from the 1st season.<br />

[johnniehardrock]

<p>WHY EKO</p><p>He was the best</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I think eye patch was the guy in the hatches partner he &quot;killed&quot;</p>

[narc]

<p> </p><strong>booster11373</strong> wrote:<br /><p>How come Jack wouldnt just ask WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE DOING OUT HERE</p><p>Still love the show been there from the beginning.</p><p>Next big mystery will be Who the fuck is Eyepatch?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>I think that would have not been a smart thing to do. I still think Juliet is fucking with him, or that Ben is in on this. I wouldn't trust her. I think they are totally testing him for some reason. </p><p>I could sort of tell the writing was on the wall with Eko. Now they killed everyone from the other side except for Bernard. </p><p>I think the smoke monster is also some sort of test. It held off on Eko the first time to see whether he would repent, and this time he wouldn't for whatever reason. He said I'd still make the same choices I'd make before. Fair enough. Then he gets to die. Which leads me to the important life lesson I'm taking from this episode. If ever a smoke monster starts showing me flashbacks of things I've done, I'm going to say that I'm very sorry for them and please not to kill me. </p><p>Most telling dialogue was this:<br />Locke: &quot;I saw a bright white light.&quot;<br />Eko: &quot;That is not what I saw.&quot;</p><p>I think the smoke monster is tied in with how the others know if someone else is a &quot;good person&quot; or not. &quot;good person&quot; seems to be divided up now on whether or not they've killed someone. Remember Colleen's comment to Sun, that if she shot her, she would become one of their enemies?</p><p>The following people have killed people (that we know of):<br /><strike>Eko</strike></p><p><strike>Ana-Lucia </strike></p><p>Sawyer </p><p>Kate</p><p>Charlie</p><p>Sun</p><p>Desmond</p><p>Sayid</p><p>Michael </p><p>The following people have not killed people (that we know of):</p><p>Jack</p><p>Locke</p><p>Hurley</p><p>Jin </p><p>Claire</p><p>Rose</p><p>Bernard</p><p>Walt&nbsp;</p><p><strike>Shannon</strike> </p><p><strike>Boone </strike></p><p><strike>Libby </strike></p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by narc on 11-1-06 @ 10:48 PM</span>

[IamFogHat]

<p>Goddammit.&nbsp; I'm so pissed by this episode.&nbsp; Why the fuck would they kill off Ekko?</p><p>So I guess what last ep taught us is we can't trust a goddamn thing the others say, including Julliette this week.&nbsp;</p>

[tbonesteak]

<p>I got the feeling tonight that Eko's brother either turned into the black smoke or the black smoke impersonated Eko's brother.</p><p>Has&nbsp;anyone read Prey by Michael Crighton?&nbsp; The black smoke has always reminded me of the swarm cloud from that book.&nbsp; It was able to assume different forms and&nbsp;mimic people's behavior and appearence.&nbsp; </p>

[blakjeezis]

I know we don't know expressly, but I'm pretty sure Sayid's killed someone too. You could even say he killed his college roomate if you wanted to try and left foot your way in there.<br />

[narc]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>blakjeezis</strong> wrote:<br />I know we don't know expressly, but I'm pretty sure Sayid's killed someone too. You could even say he killed his college roomate if you wanted to try and left foot your way in there.<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>That's why he's on the &quot;killed people that we know of&quot; list.</p><p>And yes the black smoke imitates people. Or brings back memories from the past associated with bad things people have done. That's why Eko thought he was encountering the Nigerian militiamen he carved up after they begged for their lives. &nbsp;</p>

[jax]

<p>I'm not sure Eko was supposed to repent for killing those guys so much as repent for being as bad as them.&nbsp; He was also going to steal the vaccines and profit at the expence of the innocent villagers.&nbsp; Also he undid his brother's good work by betraying those people and&nbsp;fouling the church his brother built for them.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>

[Sheeplovr]

<p>okay im mad at lost</p><p>they went with what the fans said is the black smoke monster</p><p>if a show trailers to what the fans think then its jsut gay </p><p>yet i still like the show and still liked last nights show </p><p>&nbsp;if
the black smoke has to do with some kinda memory revenge thing why did
it take the air plane captian in the first season whats his deal </p><p>i dunno im stil waiting for that Wet season they were all prepaiing for at the end of season 1 </p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[cupcakelove]

<p>I totally do not trust Ben or Juilete.&nbsp; I think there may be conflict between the two, but I think they are both working towards the same objective, whatever that may be.&nbsp; Juliete took care of Jack and Sawyer when they began some kind of revolt, and she appeared to be leading whatever the construction effort is they've got going on.&nbsp; I refuse to believe Ben wouldn't pick up on the secret tape thing, he's been extremely brilliant so far, and unless he was sleeping or taking a shit, I don't think he would let something like that slip by.&nbsp; </p><p>I'm not sure what what the smoke monster is, but it was testing Eko.&nbsp; It could have killed him several times over before he finally refused to repent, and then at that point it took care of him quickly.&nbsp; I really hope he comes back in some way in future episodes, he was by far my favorite character.&nbsp; The internal conflict in him was great, but I guess loosing that conflict was what killed him.<br /></p>

[King Imp]

<p>Totally sucks that Eko is gone, but for Christ's sake, get around to telling us what this damn black smoke is and how it was created. </p><p>On a side note, that new female &quot;Lostie&quot; is pretty damn hot. </p>

[LordJezo]

<p><img border="0" src="http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/229/20061101ji2.jpg" /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><a href="http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/229/20061101ji2.jpg" target="_self">Penny Arcade&nbsp;</a></p>

[Fallon]

The new couple sucks! I mean the girl is hot and all, but geez.<br />

[Furtherman]

<p>For the first time in the series, I'm disappointed with Lost.</p><p>What was the point of even having a &quot;Tailes&quot; story if they are all killed off?&nbsp; I know Bernard is still alive, but dammit, Eko was a great character and now it just seems it was pointless for him to even be there.</p>

[ChrisTheCop]

<p>We havent seen Bernard this season, but my guess is he'll be the next to die. Poor Rose.</p><p>And yeah, ok, the Juliet-Jack scene was horrid. If Ben was watching, he'd be able to see a reflection in the glass, that altho he might not be able to make out, he'd probably be able to tell it wasnt Gregory Peck. He runs a pretty tight ship. I'm sure he was in on it, or will&nbsp; find out.</p><p>And Eko shoudve died in the hatch. Be happy we had him for 2 extra eps. If Locke dies, cry then.&nbsp;</p>

[LordJezo]

<p>If it's so easy to get out of the island world&nbsp; (Hey Michael and Walt), why don't they just send Ben to the &quot;real world&quot; to visit a neuro surgeon to get his spine fixed?</p>

[cupcakelove]

<strong>LordJezo</strong> wrote:<br /><p>If
it's so easy to get out of the island world (Hey Michael and Walt), why
don't they just send Ben to the &quot;real world&quot; to visit a neuro surgeon
to get his spine fixed?</p><p>Remember when Michael and Walt left Ben told them not to bother trying to find the island again, because they wouldn't be able to.&nbsp; Maybe you can only find the island when the island wants you to.&nbsp; Or maybe Ben has some connection to the island the prevents him from leaving.&nbsp; He has spent his entire life there.<br /></p>

[blakjeezis]

<p><span class="postbody">If it's so easy to get out of the island world&nbsp;
(Hey Michael and Walt), why don't they just send Ben to the &quot;real
world&quot; to visit a neuro surgeon to get his spine fixed?</span></p><p>Exactly.&nbsp;</p>

[Doctor Manhattan]

<p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3">Spoiler Scenes from this weeks show (Episode 6, last show of 2006)</font></p><p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3"><a href="http://www.stationzer0.com/lost.s03e06.clip.01.divx.avi" target="_blank">Scene #1</a></font></p><p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" color="#000066" size="3"><a href="http://www.stationzer0.com/lost.s03e06.clip.02.divx.avi" target="_blank">Scene #2</a></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman" color="#000066" size="3">These clips <a href="http://www.stationzer0.com/lost_media/scenes_from_lost_s03e06_i_do_i.php" target="_blank">were found here</a>&nbsp;And I found them from a link at <a href="http://www.lostcasts.com/">http://www.lostcasts.com/</a></font></p><font face="Times New Roman" color="#000066" size="3">Spoiler Question: </font><font face="Times New Roman" color="#000066" size="3"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #000066"><font><font color="#ffffff"><font>So if Jack is correct and Henry should have had the surgery before now, are they going to address all the time he &quot;wasted&quot; with Ethan as the spy, the &quot;lists&quot;, Ben&nbsp;getting captured&nbsp;and tortured as &quot;Henry Gale&quot;, getting Michael to bring Jack to him, etc.&nbsp;Couldn't the Others&nbsp;have just gone to the 815 survivor's camp and asked Jack for help 60+ days ago? I would guess all the stuff they have done before now, including Ethan(or another Other)&nbsp;killing Scott (or Steve, whichever one died is Season 1) is the reason Jack would not want to do it, plus it sounded like it's too late anyway</font>.</font></font></span></p><p>&nbsp;End of spoiler</p></font>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Doctor Manhattan on 11-6-06 @ 11:34 AM</span>

[Aggie]

<p>Are you guys forgetting that Rose has cancer too and is fine? That Locke should be paralyzed but he's fine?</p><p>If Ben really DOES have cancer, why doesn't the island 'magic' work on him? That's why I don't believe it. But they are really doing a number on Jack.</p><p>And when was the last time we saw the French woman? When 'Henry' was caught in the net? Her daughter is still alive, will that come into play this season?</p><p>I still love this show. Lots of questions but lots of intrigue as well.</p>

[ChrisTheCop]

<p>Hank's cancer could indeed be a lie, but I also think that he could get cancer. He was (allegedly) born on the island, and ya gotta die from something, right. It's not all instant health on the island for everyone; for example, Sawyer's eyesight. But yeah, I dont believe theyre done fucking with Jack at all. I dont believe theres even any infighting going on. Its an elaborate plan.</p><p>On a side note, Ive been re-watching season 1....and I noticed some things. Has anyone noticed these things/mentioned them before? :</p><ul><li>Item 1. The large majority of survivors (plus Desmond) have father issues, either theirs or someone elses controlling or fucking up their lives. In addition, I betcha if you were to count how many times any one word was said by anyone on this show, &quot;father&quot; or &quot;dad&quot; would come out on top of the list. (I mean, did Walt even have any other line then, &quot;DAD!&quot;?)</li></ul><ul><li>Item 2. I dont know how ALL of them got their tickets, however EVERYone (i think) that we DO know how they got them is....someone else bought the ticket for them/ gave it to them (Sayid-CIA, Sawyer-Sydney police dept, Kate-Police dept, Jack-his mom, Ana Lucia-Jack's dad, Claire-the psychic, locke-the tour company, mike and walt-walt's stepdad, sun and jin-sun's dad). Hell, even Desmond's mode of ending up on the island was given to him!</li></ul>&nbsp; These things have got to mean something....but what??????<br />&nbsp;<br />

[IamFogHat]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>ChrisTheCop</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Hank's cancer could indeed be a lie, but I also think that he could get cancer. He was (allegedly) born on the island, and ya gotta die from something, right. It's not all instant health on the island for everyone; for example, Sawyer's eyesight. But yeah, I dont believe theyre done fucking with Jack at all. I dont believe theres even any infighting going on. Its an elaborate plan.</p><p>On a side note, Ive been re-watching season 1....and I noticed some things. Has anyone noticed these things/mentioned them before? :</p><ul><li>Item 1. The large majority of survivors (plus Desmond) have father issues, either theirs or someone elses controlling or fucking up their lives. In addition, I betcha if you were to count how many times any one word was said by anyone on this show, &quot;father&quot; or &quot;dad&quot; would come out on top of the list. (I mean, did Walt even have any other line then, &quot;DAD!&quot;?)</li></ul><ul><li>Item 2. I dont know how ALL of them got their tickets, however EVERYone (i think) that we DO know how they got them is....someone else bought the ticket for them/ gave it to them (Sayid-CIA, Sawyer-Sydney police dept, Kate-Police dept, Jack-his mom, Ana Lucia-Jack's dad, Claire-the psychic, locke-the tour company, mike and walt-walt's stepdad, sun and jin-sun's dad). Hell, even Desmond's mode of ending up on the island was given to him!</li></ul> These things have got to mean something....but what??????<br /> <br />I brought this up last season, also not only do they have dad issues but so far only Locke and Walt's dad is actually still alive (Locke's that we know of).<p>&nbsp;</p><p>The second point is a good one too,but I think Hurley, Charlie at least bought their own tix.</p><p>Also has anyone mentioned that after last week there are no more black people on Lost?&nbsp; Except for the black female other from last season who we haven't seen yet.</p><p>Who's flashback episode is this week going to be?</p><p>And finally wtf is the Lost schedule this season, I thought they were breaking it up into two really large blocks with a break in the middle?&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Aggie]

<strong>IamFogHat</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><strong>ChrisTheCop</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Hank's cancer could indeed be a lie, but I also think that he could get cancer. He was (allegedly) born on the island, and ya gotta die from something, right. It's not all instant health on the island for everyone; for example, Sawyer's eyesight. But yeah, I dont believe theyre done fucking with Jack at all. I dont believe theres even any infighting going on. Its an elaborate plan.</p><p>On a side note, Ive been re-watching season 1....and I noticed some things. Has anyone noticed these things/mentioned them before? :</p><ul><li>Item 1. The large majority of survivors (plus Desmond) have father issues, either theirs or someone elses controlling or fucking up their lives. In addition, I betcha if you were to count how many times any one word was said by anyone on this show, &quot;father&quot; or &quot;dad&quot; would come out on top of the list. (I mean, did Walt even have any other line then, &quot;DAD!&quot;?)</li></ul><ul><li>Item 2. I dont know how ALL of them got their tickets, however EVERYone (i think) that we DO know how they got them is....someone else bought the ticket for them/ gave it to them (Sayid-CIA, Sawyer-Sydney police dept, Kate-Police dept, Jack-his mom, Ana Lucia-Jack's dad, Claire-the psychic, locke-the tour company, mike and walt-walt's stepdad, sun and jin-sun's dad). Hell, even Desmond's mode of ending up on the island was given to him!</li></ul>These things have got to mean something....but what??????<br /><br />I brought this up last season, also not only do they have dad issues but so far only Locke and Walt's dad is actually still alive (Locke's that we know of). <p>&nbsp;</p><p>The second point is a good one too,but I think Hurley, Charlie at least bought their own tix.</p><p>Also has anyone mentioned that after last week there are no more black people on Lost?&nbsp; Except for the black female other from last season who we haven't seen yet.</p><p>Who's flashback episode is this week going to be?</p><p>And finally wtf is the Lost schedule this season, I thought they were breaking it up into two really large blocks with a break in the middle?&nbsp;</p><p>Aggie Wrote:</p><p>OK, for some reason my reply didn't show up. </p><p>Umm, Rose is still alive so there are two black women left. Unless another one pops up like the blonde and her husband (?).</p><p>As for the flashback, I'm thinking Kate. They already did a Sawyer one, unless they will actually do one on the Others...that would be greatness!</p><p>The schedule: They are referring to this as the Fall Finale so this is the last episode until January. Once it returns I believe it will be all new episodes. </p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Aggie on 11-8-06 @ 9:54 AM</span>

[Aggie]

<p>OK, for some reason my reply didn't show up. </p><p>Umm, Rose is still alive so there are two black women left. Unless another one pops up like the blonde and her husband (?).</p><p>As for the flashback, I'm thinking Kate. They already did a Sawyer one, unless they will actually do one on the Others...that would be greatness!</p><p>The schedule: They are referring to this as the Fall Finale so this is the last episode until January. Once it returns I believe it will be all new episodes. </p>

[PhishHead]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>Aggie</strong> wrote:<br /><p>OK, for some reason my reply didn't show up. </p><p>Umm, Rose is still alive so there are two black women left. Unless another one pops up like the blonde and her husband (?).</p><p>As for the flashback, I'm thinking Kate. They already did a Sawyer one, unless they will actually do one on the Others...that would be greatness!</p><p>The schedule: They are referring to this as the Fall Finale so this is the last episode until January. Once it returns I believe it will be all new episodes. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Aggie you are correct, it is a Kate Centric episode&nbsp;</p>

[JustJon]

It's Kate, with Nathan Fillion playing a part in it<br />

[extracheese]

<p>For all the things wrong with LOST and there are many...they finished the mini-season with a </p><p>powerfuil and emotional episode. Sure, all the mystery remains and you cant tell who is </p><p>good and who is evil,,,i nevertheless found myself riveted for the entire hour.</p><p>Good good stuff.</p><p>February 7 begings the last 16 episodes all shown in a row and THAT should be lots of fun.</p>

[booster11373]

Tense!

[Reephdweller]

WOW was that a great episode. I was on the edge the whole time.

[blakjeezis]

<p>WOWEEWOWEEEWOW! Great, great ep. Best Jack episode since at least season one, maybe ever. When he found the gun cabinet, I literally said out loud, &quot;Ohhhhhhh, Jack, you bad motherfucker.&quot; </p><p>I was always a Kate-Sawyer guy, but tonight I loathed it. I was watching their shit through my fingers, but I almost cried at the Kate Jack reunion. I guess you never can tell. By the end I was just frazzled beyond words. I actually went slack jawed when that final LOST screen came up. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Couple that with the fact that it was the second game of a doubleheader with this week's Dexter, and that's a damn fine night of television. Anyone who isn't watching that show as well needs to be informed of what it is they are missing. <br /></p>

[JustJon]

Damn, hell of a cliffhanger.&nbsp; Now I have nothing to watch on Wednesday nights for 3 months.<br />

[Doctor Manhattan]

<strong>JustJon</strong> wrote:<br />Damn, hell of a cliffhanger.&nbsp; Now I have nothing to watch on Wednesday nights for 3 months.<br /><p><img src="http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/4562/diggsjw0.jpg" border="0" /><strong><font size="7">+<img src="http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/4590/groundhogdayda5.jpg" border="0" /></font></strong></p><p><strong><font face="times new roman,times,serif" size="5">&quot;Nothing?&quot;</font></strong></p>

[Don Stugots]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>Doctor Manhattan</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>JustJon</strong> wrote:<br />Damn, hell of a cliffhanger. Now I have nothing to watch on Wednesday nights for 3 months.<br /><p><img border="0" src="http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/4562/diggsjw0.jpg" /><strong><font size="7">+<img border="0" src="http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/4590/groundhogdayda5.jpg" /></font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="5" face="times new roman,times,serif">&quot;Nothing?&quot;</font></strong></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>like he said, nothing.&nbsp;</p>

[johnniewalker]

You could wait one day and start watching Ugly Betty!<br />

[IamFogHat]

<p>What a great episode.&nbsp; That was the most butthole clenching climax since jack wouldn't let locke push the button last season and it went all the way down to the hyrogliphics.&nbsp; I watched it with my chick and when it was over she said she was on the verge of tears.&nbsp; </p><p>Can't wait till Feb.&nbsp;</p>

[Furtherman]

<p>Here's an excellent, well researched article on 50 Lost Loose Ends.</p><p><a href="http://tv.ign.com/articles/745/745595p1.html" target="_blank">IGN's Top 50 <em>Lost</em> Loose Ends</a></p>

[Aggie]

Thanks Furtherman! I've only read some of it so far but I like it. I've watched since Day 1 but have yet to re-watch any of the seasons so it's helping me with lots of little things I forgot or missed.

[Furtherman]

<a href="http://community.tvguide.com/thread.jspa?threadID=700013960" target="_blank">Lost is moving to 10pm when it comes back.</a>

[cupcakelove]

<strong>Furtherman</strong> wrote:<br /><a href="http://community.tvguide.com/thread.jspa?threadID=700013960" target="_blank">Lost is moving to 10pm when it comes back.</a><p>The DVR is a great invention. </p>

[JustJon]

8 to 9 to 10.&nbsp; Will season 4 be at 11pm?

[IamFogHat]

I'm a lazy, lazy man.<br /><p>&nbsp;</p> <span class="post_edited"></span>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by IamFogHat on 12-20-06 @ 11:23 AM</span>

[Furtherman]

Are you kidding me?&nbsp; Look up.&nbsp; <em>5 </em>posts.

[ChrisTheCop]

<p>lol. </p><p>Well, here's something new... I cant get it to copy and paste, but there's a new LOST MOMENT at&quot;</p><p>www.abc.com/lost</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[IamFogHat]

<strong>ChrisTheCop</strong> wrote:<br /><p>lol. </p><p>Well, here's something new... I cant get it to copy and paste, but there's a new LOST MOMENT at&quot;</p><p>www.abc.com/lost</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;I'm scared...(spoiler font) <font color="#ffffff">I don't know how I feel about that, I mean it doesn't explain anything, but I liked the other's when they were bloodthirsty, scary murderers.&nbsp; Apparently something else entirely is going on, I wonder what this means for what was going on with Walt.</font> </p>

[Furtherman]

<p>I had read yesterday... I forget where... that because Daybreak was pulled from the schedule, they are speeding up production on Lost to get it back on the air ASAP.</p><p>So we <em>might</em> get it a little earlier.</p>

[Doctor Manhattan]

<strong>Furtherman</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I had read yesterday... I forget where... that because Daybreak was pulled from the schedule, they are speeding up production on Lost to get it back on the air ASAP.</p><p>So we <em>might</em> get it a little earlier.</p><p><font face="comic sans ms,sand" size="3" color="#000080">I think the current schedule has Lost's&nbsp;3rd season&nbsp;ending during May Sweeps. Unless they want to throw in some repeat weeks instead of the 16 week no repeat plan, I don't think they would want to start early and then not have enough Lost to last until the end of the &quot;TV&nbsp;season&quot;</font></p>

[Doctor Manhattan]

<strong>ChrisTheCop</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Well, here's something new... I cant get it to copy and paste, but there's a new LOST MOMENT at&quot;</p><p><a href="http://www.abc.com/lost">www.abc.com/lost</a> </p><p><font face="comic sans ms,sand" size="2" color="#000080">Some of my reply is in spoler text:</font></p><p><font face="comic sans ms,sand" size="3"><font color="#000080">Is the new one you refer to the one with Jack</font><font color="#ffffff"> in a Cage talking to Cindy (the Stewardess that gave Jack the extra booze just before the crash, ended up with the tailies and disappeared just before Ana Lucia shot Shannon during Season 2</font><font color="#000080"><font color="#ffffff">)</font>? That is the 5th Moment so far I think. I</font><font color="#000080"> Guess</font><font color="#ffffff"> Jack's plan didn't include a way for him to escape (assuming that Kate and Sawyer did)&nbsp;And you can tell there is a lot missing from their chat, &quot;It's not as simple as that.&quot; is not the response to &quot;How did you end up with <em>them</em>?</font><font color="#000080">&quot;.</font></font></p><span class="post_edited"></span>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Doctor Manhattan on 12-20-06 @ 2:11 PM</span>

[IamFogHat]

<strong>Doctor Manhattan</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>ChrisTheCop</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Well, here's something new... I cant get it to copy and paste, but there's a new LOST MOMENT at&quot;</p><p><a href="http://www.abc.com/lost">www.abc.com/lost</a> </p><p><font face="comic sans ms,sand" size="2" color="#000080">Some of my reply is in spoler text:</font></p><p><font face="comic sans ms,sand" size="3"><font color="#000080">Is the new one you refer to the one with Jack</font><font color="#ffffff"> in a Cage talking to Cindy (the Stewardess that gave Jack the extra booze just before the crash, ended up with the tailies and disappeared just before Ana Lucia shot Shannon during Season 2</font><font color="#000080"><font color="#ffffff">)</font>? That is the 5th Moment so far I think. I</font><font color="#000080"> Guess</font><font color="#ffffff"> Jack's plan didn't include a way for him to escape (assuming that Kate and Sawyer did) And you can tell there is a lot missing from their chat, &quot;It's not as simple as that.&quot; is not the response to &quot;How did you end up with <em>them</em>?</font><font color="#000080">&quot;.</font></font></p><span class="post_edited"></span> <span class="post_edited">This message was edited by Doctor Manhattan on 12-20-06 @ 2:11 PM</span><p>&nbsp;Hm.&nbsp; Somehow you're always smarter than all of us.&nbsp; And now I'm not just scared...I'm sad...</p>

[Doctor Manhattan]

<strong>IamFogHat</strong> wrote: <p>Hm.&nbsp; Somehow you're always smarter than all of us.&nbsp; And now I'm not just scared...I'm sad... </p><p><font face="comic sans ms,sand" size="3" color="#000080">This would make more sense if&nbsp;I said something that contradicted what someone else said about the &quot;Lost Moment&quot;</font></p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Doctor Manhattan on 12-21-06 @ 8:56 AM</span>

[Doctor Manhattan]

<p><font face="comic sans ms,sand" size="2" color="#000080"><a href="http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117957386.html?categoryid=1236&amp;cs=1&amp;p=0" target="_blank">Lost to last for 7 seasons?</a></font></p><p><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2" color="#000080">Nothing offical yet but: They want to start next Season in January 2008 (it's working for 24)</font></p><p><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2" color="#000080">They think they'll end the show after Season 7 (The main cast is signed for that long)</font></p><p><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2" color="#000080">(Carlton) Cuse pointed to &quot;The X-Files&quot; as &quot;a great show that probably lasted two seasons too long.&quot; </font></p><p><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2" color="#000080">He is being WAY too kind. I would say it lasted 4-5 seasons too long.</font></p>

[cupcakelove]

<strong>Doctor Manhattan</strong> wrote:<br /><p><font face="comic sans ms,sand" size="2" color="#000080"><a href="http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117957386.html?categoryid=1236&amp;cs=1&amp;p=0" target="_blank">Lost to last for 7 seasons?</a></font></p><p><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2" color="#000080">Nothing offical yet but: They want to start next Season in January 2008 (it's working for 24)</font></p><p><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2" color="#000080">They think they'll end the show after Season 7 (The main cast is signed for that long)</font></p><p><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2" color="#000080">(Carlton) Cuse pointed to &quot;The X-Files&quot; as &quot;a great show that probably lasted two seasons too long.&quot; </font></p><p><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2" color="#000080">He is being WAY too kind. I would say it lasted 4-5 seasons too long.</font></p><p>I agree with you there.&nbsp; I hope they end it at 100 episode in season 5.&nbsp; I can't see this show being drawn out for 4 more years.<br /> </p>

[Doctor Manhattan]

<p><font face="comic sans ms,sand" size="2" color="#000080">Yeah, I'm not sure if they can keep it up that long. We're 3 years in and don't really know why anyone is on that island yet. </font></p><p><font face="comic sans ms,sand" size="2" color="#000080">The survivors of 815 should not have lived through that crash, we don't know why they lived and why they are there on the island. We don't know why &quot;The Others&quot; are there. Are they saving all this for season 7 now? Will they have enough back story to supply the show with 4 more years of Flashbacks?</font></p><p><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2" color="#000080">It's still my favorite show but I can see that changing.</font></p>

[Don Stugots]

i heard this story yesterday on PLJ and thought it was a great idea until i heard 7 years.&nbsp; two more tops.&nbsp;

[IamFogHat]

<p>Ok guys, one week.&nbsp; What's it gonna take to get you excited?</p><p>I've been so hampered by the so so first few ep's of this season coupled with the long break that I've been watching seasons 1 and 2 over again and enveloping myself in Lost stuff on the internet.&nbsp; I think it's working, and I'll be good to go next Wed.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>God I hope they don't disappoint.</p><p>Btw I'm totally fine with 7 seasons, but I think 5 would be better.&nbsp; Maybe even six.&nbsp;</p>

[King Imp]

<p><a href="http://www.superdeluxe.com/sd/contentDetail.do?id=D81F2344BF5AC7BB29A4AEDE0D956F 45CC7B35FAFE1B8CD6">Where Lost is heading.</a>&nbsp; (Don't worry, it's not a spoiler) </p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Doctor Manhattan]

<strong>King Imp</strong> wrote:<br /><p><a href="http://www.superdeluxe.com/sd/contentDetail.do?id=D81F2344BF5AC7BB29A4AEDE0D956F 45CC7B35FAFE1B8CD6">Where Lost is heading.</a>&nbsp; (Don't worry, it's not a spoiler) </p><p><img src="http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/7338/hatesa2.jpg" border="0" width="505" height="379" /></p><p>I'm sure things will get better once they decide when they will end it.</p>

[Dan 'Hampton]

What are they going to need to do to keep me?&nbsp; Honestly I don't remember how it ended. Surgery, rain, escape or something like that.

[CruelCircus]

<strong>Aggie</strong> wrote:<br /><p>And when was the last time we saw the French woman? When 'Henry' was caught in the net? Her daughter is still alive, will that come into play this season?</p><p>I'm wondering if the &quot;Other&quot; girl who's boyfriend disappeared and tried to warn Kate and Sawyer might turn out to be the French woman's daughter.&nbsp; She's the only &quot;Other&quot; that seems to not tow the party line.&nbsp; Maybe it's b/c she's not a &quot;born&quot; Other?</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Furtherman]

<p>Here's a short review:</p><p>First, the good news: Tonight's episode of Lost -- the first original to be telecast by ABC since November 8 -- is the best of the series' third season to date. It's filled with the action, suspense and high drama that fans of this show crave, but there is much more to celebrate. The present-day island story (one that is actually taking place in the fall of 2004) finally begins to move forward in exciting new ways, while the flashback provides a host of tantalizing clues about two of the central mysteries that define the show's mythology: Who are the Others and what the hell are they doing on these islands? </p>

[spadanko]

<p>Spoiler vision on:</p><p><font face="Arial" size="1" color="#ffffff"><span style="font-size: 9pt; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial">You've got questions, we've got answers &mdash; straight from the mouths of <em><span style="font-style: italic">Lost</span></em> exec producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse. We sifted through more than 2,000 queries from EW readers and presented the most pressing to the powers that be.</span></font></p><p><font face="Arial" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial"></span></font><strong><font face="Arial" size="1" color="#ffffff"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 9pt; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial">What happened to Michael and Walt?</span></font></strong><font face="Arial" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial"><br /><font color="#ffffff"><strong><span style="font-weight: bold">CARLTON</span></strong><strong><span style="font-weight: bold"> CUSE:</span></strong> We put a pin in the Michael and Walt story for the season, but by no means is it over. It would be very strange for the end of Michael and Walt to just send them off in that boat without any acknowledgment of what has happened. But if you look at the bigger picture of <em><span style="font-style: italic">Lost</span></em>, there's a circularity to the way that story is going to unfold in the overall mythology, and that is a long, planned approach. Yes, we'll get back to the Michael and Walt story, and it will be really compelling when we do. But that's most likely a year 4 story. <br /><strong><span style="font-weight: bold">DAMON LINDELOF:</span></strong> Michael and Walt are the first characters on the show to ''get off the island.'' But the pervasive question remains: What is ''off the island''?</font></span></font></p><p><font face="Arial" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial"></span></font><strong><font face="Arial" size="1" color="#ffffff"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 9pt; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial">Are we going to get the history of the Others in one shot, or will this be revealed over time?</span></font></strong><font face="Arial" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial"><br /><font color="#ffffff"><strong><span style="font-weight: bold">LINDELOF:</span></strong> It's definitely unfolding. We will begin to find out how certain members of the Others joined the Others. Episode 7 should play as a surprise to some audience members that Juliet was not born on the island &mdash; she came off the island and was recruited by the Others. So some of them were born there and some of them were recruited, but what they are there to do will be revealed <em><span style="font-style: italic">before</span></em> who put them there and why. <br /><strong><span style="font-weight: bold">CUSE:</span></strong> The connection between the Others and Dharma gets revealed in episode 11.</font></span></font></p><p><font face="Arial" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial"></span></font><strong><font face="Arial" size="1" color="#ffffff"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 9pt; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial">When will we see Libby again? Will we ever learn how she got into the mental hospital with Hurley?</span></font></strong><font face="Arial" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial"><br /><font color="#ffffff"><strong><span style="font-weight: bold">CUSE:</span></strong> Given everything else we have to tell, that's going to be a mystery that's going to have to get answered in year 4. <br /><strong><span style="font-weight: bold">LINDELOF:</span></strong> There's really one significant missing piece to Libby's story. We saw in the season finale last year that she met with Desmond, she gave him his boat, and we know that her husband died &mdash; and then we know that subsequent to that, she spent

[Snacks]

<p>I have only watched 2 or 3 episodes through all 3 season. But I was looking at yahoo and started watching this clip thinking it was only going to be 2 minutes. Well it was tonight full first spisode (the one at 9) it basically gets you up to date and explains all the storylines. This is great for someone who really never seen the show and gets you up to date, plus this has made me interested and I might statt watching it every week.</p><p><a href="http://tv.yahoo.com/videos">http://tv.yahoo.com/videos</a>&nbsp; </p><p>I guess look for lost and it will be there.</p>

[Don Stugots]

thanks for the spoilers.&nbsp;

[spadanko]

<strong>Don Stugots</strong> wrote:<br />thanks for the spoilers.&nbsp; <p>Not a problem Stugots! since I work for TV guide, i get a lot of spoiler info (even thought this is from EW)</p>

[JimBeam]

<p>So my mom &amp; brother have told me that this is the last season.</p><p>Is that true or are they completely misinformed ?</p><p>They claimed to have read it in several sources including the Daily News.</p><p>I'v yet to hear one mention myself, other than from them, that this is it.</p><p>Any help ?</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Doctor Manhattan]

<strong>JimBeam</strong> wrote:<br /><p>So my mom &amp; brother have told me that this is the last season.</p><p>Is that true or are they completely misinformed ? </p><p><font face="comic sans ms,sand" size="2" color="#000080">They are not totally misinformed, but they are wrong.</font></p><p><font face="comic sans ms,sand" size="2" color="#000080">They (Producers of Lost)&nbsp;have announced that they <em>will be</em> setting an end point to the show. There has not been an announcement of exactly when that will be but they did throw out a number of 100 shows (There have been 54 episodes once tonight's airs) for the entire run of the series. There was also a mention of 7 seasons (The length of the main cast's contracts)</font></p><p><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2" color="#000080">They still need to work out a real schedule (They say they have always known how the show would end, but they are not on a scrict timeline to that endgame) and I'm sure work it out with ABC's suits.&nbsp;They have made a number of mentions of things that will be in the 4th season (see spoilers above for some of them) and there was word of a shortened 5th &quot;wrap up&quot; season (Which would put them at around 100 shows if they stick with 22-24 episodes for Season 4) so this will in no way&nbsp;be last season.</font>&nbsp;</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Doctor Manhattan on 2-7-07 @ 8:23 PM</span>

[Drunky McBetidont]

<strong>Doctor Manhattan</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>JimBeam</strong> wrote:<br /><p>So my mom &amp; brother have told me that this is the last season.</p><p>Is that true or are they completely misinformed ? </p><p><font face="comic sans ms,sand" size="2" color="#000080">They are not totally misinformed, but they are wrong.</font></p><p><font face="comic sans ms,sand" size="2" color="#000080">They (Producers of Lost)&nbsp;have announced that they <em>will be</em> setting an end point to the show. There has not been an announcement of exactly when that will be but they did throw out a number of 100 shows (There have been 54 episodes once tonight's airs) for the entire run of the series. There was also a mention of 7 seasons (The length of the main cast's contracts)</font></p><p><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2" color="#000080">They still need to work out a real schedule (They say they have always known how the show would end, but they are not on a scrict timeline to that endgame) and I'm sure work it out with ABC's suits.&nbsp;They have made a number of mentions of things that will be in the 4th season (see spoilers above for some of them) and there was word of a shortened 5th &quot;wrap up&quot; season (Which would put them at around 100 shows if they stick with 22-24 episodes for Season 4) so this will in no way&nbsp;be last season.</font>&nbsp;</p><span class="post_edited">This message was edited by Doctor Manhattan on 2-7-07 @ 8:23 PM</span> <p>i'm hoping the whole cast&nbsp;hopes &nbsp;on a charter flight from hawaii to attend some stupid press release in australia and their plane crashes into the ocean.&nbsp; that would be a great ending.</p>

[IamFogHat]

<p>I have high hopes for tonight, an Entertainment Weekly critic raved about it and I've been hearing similar thoughts elsewhere.&nbsp; I haven't read any spoilers and I won't, but is tonight about that new chick that works with Henry, cause if tonight is another Jack episode I am going to shoot my T.V. like Elvis in his Lazyboy.</p><p>Oh, also I started watching the podcasts this weekend and at one point in the first one Linderlof and Cuse said definitively that there were two factions of Others.&nbsp; How the fuck did I miss that?&nbsp; Does anyone know who they're hinting at?&nbsp; I think they're tricking us into thinking that the Others who have Jack, Kate, and Sawyer are the 'good' faction and the other faction is 'bad' when down the road they'll pull the ole switcheroo on us and we'll see that the faction who have Jack et al are really the bad guys.&nbsp;</p>

[Don Stugots]

<strong>spadanko</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Don Stugots</strong> wrote:<br />thanks for the spoilers. <p>Not a problem Stugots! since I work for TV guide, i get a lot of spoiler info (even thought this is from EW)</p><p>&nbsp;this is one show that i love and i love knowing what is going to happen.&nbsp; it doesnt take anything away from it for me.&nbsp; i also think it would have made a great book.<br /> </p>

[IamFogHat]

Is J.J. Abrahms back on this season?&nbsp; Did he ever come back after his pre-season 2 jump ship for that Mission Impossible III debacle?

[extracheese]

<p>&nbsp;</p><p>WOW - no spoilers here...just admiration and appreciation for a GREAT EPISODE! </p><p>We all waited a ridiculously long time and heard about the switch to &quot;relationship development&quot;&nbsp;</p><p>instead of action in the coming weeks...but tonights episode was amazing...tons of action..intensity and</p><p>needed backstory on Juliette.&nbsp;</p>

[blakjeezis]

Tons of Jack crying, business as usual.

[Don Stugots]

i loved it.&nbsp;

[Dan 'Hampton]

Worth it now keep it up.

[IamFogHat]

<p>It was pretty damn good.&nbsp; Glad Danny's dead, he was annoying as all hell.&nbsp; And now we have a new question (grrr!) about Alex.&nbsp; Do we still think she's Russo's kid now that we know she's Henry's?&nbsp; Why was the company Jules was going to work for (clearly Dharma, the pentagon's, Evan) not called Dharma?&nbsp; </p><p>I was a little disappointed to not even get a quick glance at anyone else on the main island, and there weren't any huge reveals I was hoping for, but otherwise very good and some nice unexpected reveals to boot.&nbsp;</p>

[Dan 'Hampton]

The companys name is just a front.&nbsp; Anyone catch what the name of the person was who she was meeting when she was reminded about the apointment? Probably nothing but good episode.&nbsp; And now we know the others can't get off the island after the&nbsp; button wasn't pushed.

[Don Stugots]

<strong>dschef</strong> wrote:<br />The companys name is just a front. Anyone catch what the name of the person was who she was meeting when she was reminded about the apointment? Probably nothing but good episode. <strong>And now we know the others can't get off the island after the button wasn't pushed.</strong><p>&nbsp;what?&nbsp; i am confused on that one. &nbsp; </p>

[Doctor Manhattan]

<strong>IamFogHat</strong> wrote:<br /><p>And now we have a new question (grrr!) about Alex.&nbsp; Do we still think she's Russo's kid now that we know she's Henry's?&nbsp; Why was the company Jules was going to work for (clearly Dharma, the pentagon's, Evan) not called Dharma?&nbsp; </p><p><font face="comic sans ms,sand" size="2" color="#000080">Alex could still be Russo's kid: Russo could just be part of Ben's(Henry's) group and been playing the castaways this whole time, or Ben isn't her biological father so then Russo doesn't know Ben/Henry from any other Other.</font></p><p><font face="comic sans ms,sand" size="2" color="#000080">Dharma is a secret, so the other company is a front. The Ben's group may be part of another organization that took over Dharma's project/equipment as it may not still be active after 25+ years</font></p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Doctor Manhattan on 2-7-07 @ 11:29 PM</span>

[blakjeezis]

Zeke (Tom?) said something about shit going bad since 'the sky turned purple.'