Lost - Season Three

[tbonesteak]

I've mentioned it a couple time before but the whole thing with Rouseau has bothered me for a long time. Now I'm starting to think that she is working for the same people that Naomi is working for. She came on the island 16 years ago and has been trying to communicate with their ship but has been unable to because of the signal blocker. I don't remember all the episodes where she has popped up, but I don't think her appearance is coincidence. She either has her own agenda, which extends further than just reuniting with her daughter, or she's working for someone else. Has Ben ever acknowledged actually being the father? I don't remember and I wouldn't trust him if he did. My guess is she'll turn next season. I agree that the losties and the others will have to form a shaky alliance to ward off the outsiders.

Some other random thoughts:

I think we can assume that Juliet can now be trusted. Ben was PISSED when he realized she dimed them out.

What's the story with Richard? He hasn't aged a day since any of the flashbacks. I can't tell whether this is accidnetal (meaning they couldn't get him to look younger) or whether he doesn't get older. My guess is it's the former, because if he's some kind of immortal, why would he be taking orders from Ben.

How did Penny pop up as soon as the signal blocker went down? How does she know their signal/frequency? That was a little fishy.

I've been trying to figure out who was in the coffin and it's next to impossible. If the clip is to be trusted, it could be anyone with a first name starting with a J (because the second letter could be an "o" or and "a" or and "e") and a last name ending "antham." It's not a common ending so there couldn't be that many possibilities: Grantham, Lantham, Cantham. However, unless someone on the island is using a psuedonym, no one's last name is even close to that. I'm surprised that someone wasn't able to blow up the image of the paper lying on the passenger seat in one of the first shots. That should show the entire article, although I don't have HDtv or the technology to know what I'm talking about. Maybe it's too far away to enhance. Either way, I'll be thinking about that one all summer. It has to be someone Jack cares deeply about, someone without other family and friends, and someone who Jack might think Kate would care about as well (although she seemed shocked that Jack would assume she would show). Maybe Ben. Maybe Locke. I don't think anyone suggested this but what about Claire - she is Jack's sister after all.

[celery]

thanks, with this show every bit of info helps, and that's the one thing I didn't know

I've been watching and re-watching for three seasons, I don't feel I know anything.

Check out this tidbit:

"Jack's newspaper clipping mentions the Grand Avenue Project. A Los Angeles building that won't be finished till about 2010 so this may take place even further in the future then we think."

http://www.liquidgeneration.com/Blogs/News/Suck_My_Blog/Top_10_Moments_of_the_Lost_Season_Finale/

[sailor]

What's the story with Richard? He hasn't aged a day since any of the flashbacks. I can't tell whether this is accidnetal (meaning they couldn't get him to look younger) or whether he doesn't get older. My guess is it's the former, because if he's some kind of immortal, why would he be taking orders from Ben.

i'd heard speculation for a while that he was some highlander immortal-type.

[drusilla]

i dunno why i was just thinking about this, but maybe they can cover up walts super-fast growth spurt with saying that it has something to do with the island & possibly tie it to why there is a problem with pregnancies.... like kids age too fast or something & therefore so does the fetus. i dunno, i'm tired so i could be talking out my butt.

[sailor]

i dunno why i was just thinking about this, but maybe they can cover up walts super-fast growth spurt with saying that it has something to do with the island & possibly tie it to why there is a problem with pregnancies.... like kids age too fast or something & therefore so does the fetus. i dunno, i'm tired so i could be talking out my butt.

maybe it's just me, but i never thought walt was actually there. i thought he was a hallucination or such.

[drusilla]

i was thinking about that too, but at the same time i thought i heard that michael & walt would be back at one point. though, michael was my least favorite & he is not missed

[sailor]

i was thinking about that too, but at the same time i thought i heard that michael & walt would be back at one point. though, michael was my least favorite & he is not missed

it was more the way he appeared (and the fact that locke was in post-shooting semi-delirium). my wife, however, is convinced he was really there, and she's more often right with this type of stuff. :)

[Reephdweller]

I'm guessing its either sawyer or locke in the casket. I'm guessing we'll see many more of these "flash forwards" next year.

In re-watching the "The Answers" show, Carlton Cuse said that as the show progresses it will show the past, the present and where they're going, so I definitey think we're going to see a lot more flash-forwards.

[Don Stugots]

In re-watching the "The Answers" show, Carlton Cuse said that as the show progresses it will show the past, the present and where they're going, so I definitey think we're going to see a lot more flash-forwards.

same here. the flash forwards are very cool. it is something to see Jack become what he hates, his dad. i guess that does happen in life. no matter how your run from it, you are who you are.

[ProfessorAnt]

I've been trying to figure out who was in the coffin and it's next to impossible. If the clip is to be trusted, it could be anyone with a first name starting with a J (because the second letter could be an "o" or and "a" or and "e") and a last name ending "antham." It's not a common ending so there couldn't be that many possibilities: Grantham, Lantham, Cantham. However, unless someone on the island is using a psuedonym, no one's last name is even close to that. I'm surprised that someone wasn't able to blow up the image of the paper lying on the passenger seat in one of the first shots. That should show the entire article, although I don't have HDtv or the technology to know what I'm talking about. Maybe it's too far away to enhance. Either way, I'll be thinking about that one all summer. It has to be someone Jack cares deeply about, someone without other family and friends, and someone who Jack might think Kate would care about as well (although she seemed shocked that Jack would assume she would show). Maybe Ben. Maybe Locke. I don't think anyone suggested this but what about Claire - she is Jack's sister after all.

It may be someone we havn't met yet. Here's a theory.
http://lost.cubit.net/viewEgg.php?id=294
That is similar to the philosophical references to John Locke. Food for thought.

[Reephdweller]

I also loved the fact that in the middle of everything seeming to crumble around Ben that at the last moment when Locke could shoot Jack to prevent them from calling for help and leaving the island, that he couldn't do it. Just like he couldn't kill his father. Locke's "weakness" ultimately worked against Ben in a weird way. Sort of an additional slap in the face to him.

[YoungBl00d]

killed off Charlie...he was the coolest one. And he basically killed himself for no reason, didn't make sense. so stupid.

[Furtherman]

This interview with Ben sums up everything that the Lost haters hate.

And that's why I love it.

<embed width="448" height="365" src="http://www.ifilm.com/efp" quality="high" bgcolor="000000" name="efp" align="middle" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" flashvars="flvbaseclip=2858527&"> </embed> <h1><a href="http://www.ifilm.com/video/2858527">BWE Sneak Peek: With Ben from Lost!</a></h1><span>Posted May 25, 2007</span><p>Michael Emerson (better known to you as Ben, the mysterious mastermind leader of "The Others" on <em>Lost</em>) drops by Best Week Ever to sit down and shed some light on the mysteries of the show. And to creep everyone out.</p>

[cupcakelove]

This interview with Ben sums up everything that the Lost haters hate.

And that's why I love it.

<embed width="448" height="365" src="http://www.ifilm.com/efp" quality="high" bgcolor="000000" name="efp" align="middle" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" flashvars="flvbaseclip=2858527&"> </embed> <h1><a href="http://www.ifilm.com/video/2858527">BWE Sneak Peek: With Ben from Lost!</a></h1><span>Posted May 25, 2007</span><p>Michael Emerson (better known to you as Ben, the mysterious mastermind leader of "The Others" on <em>Lost</em>) drops by Best Week Ever to sit down and shed some light on the mysteries of the show. And to creep everyone out.</p>

Is a thumb really a finger?


Great stuff, thanks.

[drusilla]

ahahah

[celery]

If you're obsessed with LOST, I'd definitely recommend The Lost Podcast with Jay and Jack.

They go every show in meticulous detail, and they're actually funny and entertaining to listen to, particularly Jack. If you listen in iTunes, it'll show you screen caps and other images as they discuss them. They're even doing podcasts during the hiatus, though I'm not really sure what they're going to cover.

http://www.jayandjack.com/

[Johnny Manf]

Ok. theory time. Dont read on if you will get mad if this ends up being right.
A website claims to have cracked the newspaper clipping with the help of tons and tons of fans examining it.

http://www.thetailsection.com/lost-news/lost-the-man-in-the-box.php

The body of John Lantham of New York was found shortly after 4 am in the 4300 block of Grand Avenue. Ted Worden, a doorman at the Tower Lofts complex, heard loud noises coming from the victim's loft. Concerned for tenants' safety, he entered the loft and found the body hanging from a beam in the living room. According to Jaime Ortiz, a police spokesman, the incident was deemed a suicide after medical tests. Latham is survived by one teenaged son. Memorial services will be held at the Hoffs-Drawlar Funeral Home tomorrow evening."


Yes the name is spelled different in each part of the newspaper clipping for some reason. Lantham and Latham. John Latham is a real life artist who dealt with something he called "flat time" so its probably a fake name someone was using to hide or its a character we dont know about yet. It could be Michael because he would have to change his name to hide from people since he ended his run on the show being a murderer. And plus it says teenage son, being Walt.

And Jack is upset because Michael got off the Island with Ben's coordinates and he wants them so he can get back. And Kate doesnt care because she just still thinks of Michael as an asshole. Plus it was a shitty looking black neighborhood where Michael might have been hiding out.

Man, I cant believe I have to wait til February for new episodes because I seriously look stuff up about this show everyday.

[Doctor Manhattan]

If you're obsessed with LOST, I'd definitely recommend The Lost Podcast with Jay and Jack.

I couldn't get into Jay and Jack, and I won't be buying any of their T-Shirts no matter how many times they mention them.

I'm a Lostcasts (http://www.lostcasts.com/) man myself.

[celery]

I couldn't get into Jay and Jack, and I won't be buying any of their T-Shirts no matter how many times they mention them.

I'm a Lostcasts (http://www.lostcasts.com/) man myself.

I'll check it out. A few plugs don't really bother me on a free podcast - everyone's gotta earn a living.

Dharmalars is another good one - http://dharmalarspodcast.blogspost.com. They even had Jorge Garcia (Hurley) in "studio" with them a few weeks ago.

In other news, they announced that Season 3 will be out on DVD December 11. Here's the box art, though I'm not sure if it's official:

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/98/c6/8aea228348a05938578b2110._AA150_.L.jpg

[K.C.]

I've mentioned it a couple time before but the whole thing with Rouseau has bothered me for a long time. Now I'm starting to think that she is working for the same people that Naomi is working for. She came on the island 16 years ago and has been trying to communicate with their ship but has been unable to because of the signal blocker. I don't remember all the episodes where she has popped up, but I don't think her appearance is coincidence. She either has her own agenda, which extends further than just reuniting with her daughter, or she's working for someone else. Has Ben ever acknowledged actually being the father? I don't remember and I wouldn't trust him if he did. My guess is she'll turn next season. I agree that the losties and the others will have to form a shaky alliance to ward off the outsiders.

Yeah, if Rousseau was really there for 16 years, by herself without allegiance to anyone, you would think she would either have been killed or forciably abducted and kept by the Others.

Her having an alliance (or at least a previous one) with Naomi's people or The Others makes the most sense...it would also explain how she's been able to walk the island so freely, why the Others didn't shut down her distress signal, and why they never considered her a threat even though she sets traps everywhere.


I think we can assume that Juliet can now be trusted. Ben was PISSED when he realized she dimed them out.

Agreed, although Sawyer murdering Tom in cold-blood right in front of her I think will push her into a storyline where she escalates the tension between Jack and Sawyer, with her and Kate caught in the middle

What's the story with Richard? He hasn't aged a day since any of the flashbacks. I can't tell whether this is accidnetal (meaning they couldn't get him to look younger) or whether he doesn't get older. My guess is it's the former, because if he's some kind of immortal, why would he be taking orders from Ben.

No clue, but it probably has something to do with Jacob, although I've heard people say more and more they believe time-travel could have something to do with this show before the end.

How did Penny pop up as soon as the signal blocker went down? How does she know their signal/frequency? That was a little fishy.

The last scene in the Season 2 finale after the hatch blows up is two Russians at either the North or South Pole monitoring electromagnetic frequencies...then the hatch blows and then pick up the signal and they make a call which Penny answers to which they say 'we found it.' My guess is that Penny hired them to find Desmond (or his ship), and when they located the explosion, she's been sending distress calls trying to contact anyone out there.

She probably ran into the jamming device at the Looking Glass station, and like the tech the Russians used to see the hatch explode in real time, she probably had a setup where if the jammer ever went down, it would notify her immediately....she is rich after all.

I've been trying to figure out who was in the coffin and it's next to impossible. If the clip is to be trusted, it could be anyone with a first name starting with a J (because the second letter could be an "o" or and "a" or and "e") and a last name ending "antham." It's not a common ending so there couldn't be that many possibilities: Grantham, Lantham, Cantham. However, unless someone on the island is using a psuedonym, no one's last name is even close to that. I'm surprised that someone wasn't able to blow up the image of the paper lying on the passenger seat in one of the first shots. That should show the entire article, although I don't have HDtv or the technology to know what I'm talking about. Maybe it's too far away to enhance. Either way, I'll be thinking about that one all summer. It has to be someone Jack cares deeply about, someone without other family and friends, and someone who Jack might think Kate would care about as well (although she seemed shocked that Jack would assume she would show). Maybe Ben. Maybe Locke. I don't think anyone suggested this but what about Claire - she is Jack's sister after all.

I stand by Locke, although the Michael theory is interesting, although it'd have to be explained a) how Jack knew Michael changed his name, which means they had contact after the island. b) why Walt didn't show up at his dad's funeral.

[K.C.]

killed off Charlie...he was the coolest one. And he basically killed himself for no reason, didn't make sense. so stupid.

He had to if he wanted to save Claire...Desmond had said before that if his premonitions don't play out exactly as he sees them, they change.

It was the only way he could guarantee Claire and Aaron would leave the island.

And I think Charlie had the best send off of any character on the show so far. His 'Greatest Hits' episode was amazing, and the character was pretty much resolved with that.

To keep him alive would make the 'Greatest Hits' episode pointless and diminish the character. The only other thing they could have done was leave it open ended as to whether he died or not, but to the show's credit, they don't do a lot of hedging their bets with characters in case they want to bring them back later...they make a decision and stick with it.

I'm still kind of pissed they killed Mr. Eko off, but at the same time, to have him standing around as a background character, which he would be at this point, would be boring.

[DetectiveV]

He had to if he wanted to save Claire...Desmond had said before that if his premonitions don't play out exactly as he sees them, they change.

It was the only way he could guarantee Claire and Aaron would leave the island.

And I think Charlie had the best send off of any character on the show so far. His 'Greatest Hits' episode was amazing, and the character was pretty much resolved with that.

To keep him alive would make the 'Greatest Hits' episode pointless and diminish the character. The only other thing they could have done was leave it open ended as to whether he died or not, but to the show's credit, they don't do a lot of hedging their bets with characters in case they want to bring them back later...they make a decision and stick with it.

I'm still kind of pissed they killed Mr. Eko off, but at the same time, to have him standing around as a background character, which he would be at this point, would be boring.


I agree, I think LOST has the stones to leave Charlie dead. He'll probably show up in a few flashbacks, like Boone and Shannon. Awesome sendoff, I got choked up during Greatest Hits, not so much during the scene itself. I kept thinking...Hey Charlie, swim out that big damn hole behind you...

[Reephdweller]

so its probably a fake name someone was using to hide or its a character we dont know about yet. (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/so%20its%20probably%20a%20fake%20name%20someone%20 was%20using%20to%20hide%20or%20its%20a%20character %20we%20dont%20know%20about%20yet.)

That's what I'm thinking, we probably haven't seen whoevers in that coffin yet.

And what's with Mikael can anything kill him?

[Doogie]

And what's with Mikael can anything kill him?

I finally saw the episode after this time, and I think they are making Mikhail a Rasputin type of character. I think they are combining the characteristics of Rasputin and the Last Russian Czars family and how they died. If I remember correctly they shot Czar Nicolas II in the chest with a pistol. We will see what happens with the 'Mad Monk' of Lost.

[Don Stugots]

Mikhail is the anti-Locke.

[oh_kee_pa]

so i watched three seasons in about 2 weeks.... it was total over load so i will prob. go back and watch them again a little slower this time...
i think Penny's father has something to do w/ the island

i also think that there is a third group of people on the island

[ChrisTheCop]

Mikhail is the anti-Locke.

and the anti locke is....the KEY!
so youre saying Mikhail is the key to the island??!! i get it now!!

whats it matter? now that david chase is geting credit as a genius, the entire last season is gonna be a black screen.

each one of us gets to decide what happens to each character for ourselves, because hey, life goes on, even if they get off the island...or dont. it's up to you! GENIUS!!!!!!



(sorry, still bitter about sunday night.)

[Don Stugots]

and the anti locke is....the KEY!
so youre saying Mikhail is the key to the island??!! i get it now!!

whats it matter? now that david chase is geting credit as a genius, the entire last season is gonna be a black screen.

each one of us gets to decide what happens to each character for ourselves, because hey, life goes on, even if they get off the island...or dont. it's up to you! GENIUS!!!!!!



(sorry, still bitter about sunday night.)

so is regina, she missed her boyfriend at the BBQ.

[EliSnow]

Let me know if I'm going crazy or not, but my wife and I watched the season finale last night off of my iPod onto my television. Throughout the episode, during the flash forwards and the time on the island, I kept hearing a bit of radio feedback intermittently.

Anyone else hear that during the ep?

[celery]

Looks like Michael will be returning in Season 4:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33445

[cupcakelove]

Looks like Michael will be returning in Season 4:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33445

But will he be on the island, or in flash-backs/forwards?

[celery]

But will he be on the island, or in flash-backs/forwards?

The producers specifically said he won't be in a flash-back (though he may be in a flash-forward) and he will be back as a series regular. Another cool tidbit:

The flash-forward scene with Kate and Jack being off the island isn't how the series will end. Producers say there's a "whole chapter of the story" that will take place off the island.

[ChrisTheCop]

So they DO get off the island, and Jack convinces many to go back? Wow... wow...I like it... but...wow.

[ChrisTheCop]

<p>What an amazing, amazing episode. I was so into the story, and so freaked out my skin crawled, that I totally forgot about the promised reveal, and when it came....I was so happy to have watched!</p><p>I wondered about the 2 photos too, but I'm certain an explanation will come eventually. (Maybe in one parallel time, she got the photo and he paid for it?)</p><p>Anyway, wow. You above are all correct, this 2nd part of the season has been phenomenal!</p><p>Did you all catch (and how could you not?) the artwork in dad's office? Polar bears and palm trees, upside down Buddha, and backward NAMASTE! KInd of represented the episode, I thought; upside down, backwards, and things being where they shouldnt be....episode? Hell, the entire series!</p><p>What a quandry though. If you could do it all over again, and right the wrongs in your life even though it would mean you werent there to save the world when it needed saving....would you? </p><p>And that whole &quot;course correcting&quot; theory made me think of the WTC janitor who was out sick on 9/11/01 but later crashed in that plane in Queens heading for D.R. He was supposed to die, and time made sure he did...no matter how &quot;lucky&quot; he considered himself. </p><p>We're gonna have to watch that again.&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

The above was my original post from the 1st time I saw Flashes Before Your Eyes.

I just watched it again...for the 10th time perhaps, and saw something NEW!
I mention it because I dont think anyone posted it, even though it's tiny and perhaps worthless, it blew my mind that I hadnt seen it the 1st nine times.

When Desmond wakes up in his flat, covered in red paint, they pull the camera back to a fuzzy overturned paint can, then focus. The can says FUTU(and then is covered in red paint). the 1st 2 letters of red are of course RE, so FUTUred. ? Perhaps it was a foreshadowing that the future was to be a bloody mess?

I guess after Hoffs-Drawler, Ive been looking for this shit everywhere... interesting to find it in an older ep. Later, when he's breaking up with Penny, he says "I dont even like red!" Drawing us back to that scene.

Also, Ive mentioned that altho I despise the Kate-Juliette-Jack-Sawyer love rhombus, the Penny-Desmond romance has managed to pull at my heart strings. It's interesting to note the original airdate: Feb 14, 2007. Valentine's Day.

Alright, enough reminiscing... is it Wednesday yet??!!

[disneyspy]

dude,you are my hero,not only have you watched the series more than me but you would rather see stuff for yourself than go to a "fan" site,i respect that. it does kinda scare me that you'd go back to a 2 year old post tho

[Don Stugots]

stalkerchristhecop

[ChrisTheCop]

We follow rules or people die!

It was a post about a season 3 ep. It belongs in the season 3 thread.

A place for everything, and everything in its place.

[disneyspy]

We follow rules or people die!

It was a post about a season 3 ep. It belongs in the season 3 thread.

A place for everything, and everything in its place.

ive pulled a lost and gone back in time before i joined the board and posted in a thread which is the past but now the present of 2007,makes sense to me since this is the LOST thread