Should KISS be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? [Archive]

Tenbatsuzen

08-07-2006, 07:36 PM

FUNKMAN

08-07-2006, 07:40 PM

Yesthere was talent behind the gay makeup

PapaBear

08-07-2006, 07:41 PM

Only if they pay full price for admission.

fezident

08-07-2006, 07:44 PM

I voted "no".By their own admission, the music was always secondary.  To me, that should disqualify them from any and all music based awards/honors.  Now, if there was a catagory dedicated to theatrics and stuff, they totally deserve a clean sweep.

Tenbatsuzen

08-07-2006, 07:46 PM

fezident wrote: I voted "no".By their own admission, the music was always secondary. To me, that should disqualify them from any and all music based awards/honors. Now, if there was a catagory dedicated to theatrics and stuff, they totally deserve a clean sweep.    But if the music was secondary, and they still managed to produce that amount of quality music... it's not like they produced one good album and then said fuck it. And if the music was "secondary", explain the Elders album then.

BoondockSaint

08-07-2006, 08:52 PM

Hasn't Back in Black sold like 25 million?

mikeyboy

08-07-2006, 08:56 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: But if the music was secondary, and they still managed to produce that amount of quality music... There's the flaw in your argument, because they really didn't.

Tenbatsuzen

08-07-2006, 09:02 PM

BoondockSaint wrote: Hasn't Back in Black sold like 25 million?   Wow, you're right... perusing the RIAA's site, if it's legit, AC/DC has sold way, WAAAAAY more albums than KISS. However, KISS' album sales are on par with Black Sabbath and the Beach Boys, both of whom are in the Hall.

PaulF

08-07-2006, 09:04 PM

It's the "Hall of Fame" not the "Hall of Excellence, Irrefutable (sp?) Quality or Virtuosity". They've maintained a presence for more than 2 decades. My mother and father (70 and 72) know who they are, as do most of my friends parents. They have sold an incredible amount of albums, and influenced, for good or bad, many bands who followed. Why shouldn't they be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?Granted, Gene could probably sell manure to a dairy farmer, but he still had to have something to sell. They weren't a one-and-done band. Put them in.

Tenbatsuzen

08-07-2006, 09:04 PM

mikeyboy wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: But if the music was secondary, and they still managed to produce that amount of quality music... There's the flaw in your argument, because they really didn't.   Compared to AC/DC?  KISS has the same number, if not more, of recognizable songs to a general fan.  You don't sustain touring for as long as they have without a decent oeuvre of music.

PapaBear

08-07-2006, 09:14 PM

PaulF wrote: It's the "Hall of Fame" not the "Hall of Excellence, Irrefutable (sp?) Quality or Virtuosity". They've maintained a presence for more than 2 decades. My mother and father (70 and 72) know who they are, as do most of my friends parents. They have sold an incredible amount of albums, and influenced, for good or bad, many bands who followed. Why shouldn't they be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?Granted, Gene could probably sell manure to a dairy farmer, but he still had to have something to sell. They weren't a one-and-done band. Put them in.As much as I hate to admit it, PaulF has got it right. My "no" vote was biased, because I just don't like KISS. To be honest, I guess the whole concept of a Hall of Fame for music is just a bad idea. In music, fame has absolutely nothing to do with quality.In sports, athletes make it into their respective halls of fame by performing well in what they do. The personal tastes of the fans doesn't really factor in how they get inducted. Music is much different than sports. A musician's success is based more on what the fans like and are willing to pay for.The Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame really shouldn't exist.

fezident

08-07-2006, 09:16 PM

I know that KISS fans are the most loyal in the world so, I expect that THEY would want KISS to be inducted.But, to the average person on the street, I don't think they equate KISS with music.  They think of the make-up, the blood, "that guy with the long tongue", the fire, the costumes, the merch & the marketing, the (ridiculous) Satanic connection, and then maaaybe they think of "Rock And Roll All Night".As I said earlier, even the band members themselves have stated that the music was an "excuse" to get out there and perform.  (or something like that...I'll try to find the exact quote).  They sold a squillion records, I gotta hand it to them but, their IMAGE is definitely their legacy. .

This message was edited by fezident on 8-8-06 @ 1:17 AM

spoon

08-07-2006, 09:34 PM

PapaBear wrote: Only if they pay full price for admission. Agreed and funny!

spoon

08-07-2006, 09:37 PM

PaulF wrote: It's the "Hall of Fame" not the "Hall of Excellence, Irrefutable (sp?) Quality or Virtuosity". They've maintained a presence for more than 2 decades. My mother and father (70 and 72) know who they are, as do most of my friends parents. They have sold an incredible amount of albums, and influenced, for good or bad, many bands who followed. Why shouldn't they be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?Granted, Gene could probably sell manure to a dairy farmer, but he still had to have something to sell. They weren't a one-and-done band. Put them in.And that's not much of an argument for KISS.  There has to be some "musical" standards, and amount of sales or name recognition doesn't make total sense.  By that logic, NSync and Britney are headed to the Hall.  No way, they fucking blow and were a fucking freakshow due to the fact they knew they wouldn't survive without it.

booster11373

08-07-2006, 09:40 PM

Never a fan so dont care, Hall of fame doesnt have much credibilty to me.But.Does Kiss's music hold up, do kids today even listen to Kiss?

mikeyboy

08-08-2006, 01:30 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  mikeyboy wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: But if the music was secondary, and they still managed to produce that amount of quality music... There's the flaw in your argument, because they really didn't.   Compared to AC/DC?  KISS has the same number, if not more, of recognizable songs to a general fan.  You don't sustain touring for as long as they have without a decent oeuvre of music.  So "recognizable" is now the same thing as "quality"?  I think not.  I think the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is highly flawed (see, for example, my rant about the sex Pistols induction a while back), but there really are two criteria that they seem to use in deciding who to induct -- body of work and influence.  Does Kiss have a body of work that justifies putting them in?  In my opinion, no.  A handful of "recognizable" songs doesn't get you there, especially when the songs tend to take a back seat to the spectacle.  The second is influence, which helps bands such as the Ramones and AC/DC make it in.  You rarely ever hear of any band that claims Kiss' music as an influence.  If they claim them as an influence, it's almost always the "spectacle" aspect.  What do I know, though.  They'll probably get in eventually.

Don Stugots

08-08-2006, 02:14 AM

FUNKMAN wrote: Yesthere was talent behind the gay makeup gay makeup?  the demons makeup was not gay.   the rest of them, yes without a doubt. music isnt deep?  come on, "beth" "god gave rock n roll to you" are all deep ass songs.they did entertain, they did sell a load of records, they did change their music as times changed.  i still voted no mainly because of the whole KISS scotch tape holder, etc.

Crippler

08-08-2006, 02:30 AM

Not before Van Halen.

reeshy

08-08-2006, 03:24 AM

Let them buy their way in...they made enough money off of their suckers.....er, fans!!!!

A.J.

08-08-2006, 03:53 AM

Yes.  For better or worse, they helped shape the glam-rock era of the 70s which in turn paved the way for the lame-ass metal bands of the 80s.  Their influence in helping to establish a genre of rock earns them admission.I liked how the KISS Army protested in Cleveland when the selections for induction are done in New York.And I maintain that Deep Purple needs to be inducted due to their influence upon metal.

Hottub

08-08-2006, 05:03 AM

"god gave rock n roll to you"Wasn't that Argent?

FUNKMAN

08-08-2006, 05:37 AM

When I woke up, Mom and Dad are rolling on the couch. Rolling numbers, rock and rolling, got my Kiss records out

fezident

08-08-2006, 06:00 AM

spoon wrote: <blockquote />  There has to be some "musical" standards, and amount of sales or name recognition doesn't make total sense.  By that logic, NSync and Britney are headed to the Hall.  No way, they fucking blow and were a fucking freakshow due to the fact they knew they wouldn't survive without it.  Exactly.Or to put it another way: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKwgnnFWpJM">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKwgnnFWpJM</a>

El Mudo

08-08-2006, 06:32 AM

Only if they play:

http://www.sundin.net/denim/images/lick_it_up.jpg

badorties

08-08-2006, 06:34 AM

mikeyboy wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote:  mikeyboy wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: But if the music was secondary, and they still managed to produce that amount of quality music... There's the flaw in your argument, because they really didn't.   Compared to AC/DC?  KISS has the same number, if not more, of recognizable songs to a general fan.  You don't sustain touring for as long as they have without a decent oeuvre of music.  So "recognizable" is now the same thing as "quality"?  I think not.  I think the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is highly flawed (see, for example, my rant about the sex Pistols induction a while back), but there really are two criteria that they seem to use in deciding who to induct -- body of work and influence.  Does Kiss have a body of work that justifies putting them in?  In my opinion, no.  A handful of "recognizable" songs doesn't get you there, especially when the songs tend to take a back seat to the spectacle.  The second is influence, which helps bands such as the Ramones and AC/DC make it in.  You rarely ever hear of any band that claims Kiss' music as an influence.  If they claim them as an influence, it's almost always the "spectacle" aspect.  What do I know, though.  They'll probably get in eventually.there's plenty of guys that use ace frehely as a huge influence ... but gene has reduced the catalog/band to an outdated, aging marketing toolany merit KISS may have was negated by:<img height="736" src="http://www.kissfaq.com/video/video_phantom_lg.jpg" width="410" border="0" />

kdubya

08-08-2006, 06:37 AM

I think the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is highly flawed...... I agree, so my answer is, who cares.

BrotherBeef

08-08-2006, 06:53 AM

I do not believe KISS should be in the Hall of Fame. If theres a Hall of Fame for washed up "rockers" who sell everything under the sun with their name on it then YES.

phixion

08-08-2006, 07:02 AM

id put them in for ny groove and for ny groove alone

FUNKMAN

08-08-2006, 07:07 AM

it's all a moot point unless kiss is on their list... i couldn't resist

mikeyboy

08-08-2006, 07:11 AM

phixion wrote: id put them in for ny groove and for ny groove alone Well, technically isn't that Ace Frehley solo rather than Kiss?

badorties

08-08-2006, 08:11 AM

mikeyboy wrote: phixion wrote: id put them in for ny groove and for ny groove alone Well, technically isn't that Ace Frehley solo rather than Kiss?it was released under the KISS moniker ... his solo record in the mid/late 80s wasn't that bad ... both featured the mighty anton fig on drums

Tenbatsuzen

08-08-2006, 08:24 AM

Re: Phantom of the Park I find it humorous that Peter is featured on the cover - wasn't he so fucked up during filming that he was replaced by a black guy in the Catman makeup, or was that Ace?

Crippler

08-08-2006, 08:39 AM

That was Ace, who was so messed up that he appears in almost none of the film.  But I do think Peter was having his troubles at the same time, he just made most of the morning calls.

jeffdwright2001

08-08-2006, 09:04 AM

I hear Poison puts on a good show.

badorties

08-08-2006, 09:36 AM

Crippler wrote: That was Ace, who was so messed up that he appears in almost none of the film.  But I do think Peter was having his troubles at the same time, he just made most of the morning calls. from imdb:<blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px">Peter Criss was dubbed, because he wouldn't show up to do looping (re-recording lines in post-production).American, so in the fight scenes you can see Ace go from being white to black and vice-versa.[/quote]

This message was edited by badorties on 8-8-06 @ 1:39 PM

epo

08-08-2006, 03:49 PM

The KISS army has a couple things working against it:<ol><li><div>Kiss sucks musically</div></li><li>Kiss has no quality musically legacy.</li><li>And of course those fans are grownups in "the KISS army".</li></ol>Vote NO to KISS.

Enabler

08-08-2006, 04:13 PM

Warren Moon is so much better than KISS. Just look at KISS's completion %.

spoon

08-08-2006, 09:46 PM

But who scored more?

Grendel_Kahn

08-09-2006, 12:01 AM

KISS should get in when the Monkees do.  Both bands had an equal amount of playing on their albums.  And one could make the argument that The Monkees are just as ( if not better ) known to the average music listener.

Doctor Manhattan

08-09-2006, 04:24 AM

<a href="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/viewmessages.cfm/forum/80/topic/51665">Should KISS be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?</a>  They should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame all Night, and then party Ever-re-day.I voted no, they are entertaining, but I'm still not convinced they played there own instruments. I thought they were like the Monkees. (Who probably play their own shit, I don't know)And one could make the argument that The Monkees are just as ( if not better ) known to the average music listener. "Day Dream Believer" has got to be a huge hit for them, I hear it all the time even today

This message was edited by Doctor Manhattan on 8-9-06 @ 8:25 AM

MasterSoySauce

08-09-2006, 06:39 AM

The rock and roll hall of fame shouldnt even exist. I hate it.

Doctor Manhattan

08-10-2006, 09:14 AM

On O&A's show yesterday Anthony mentioned that Ron said that if they let in Kiss they have to let in "The Archies"What day was that one? I want to hear Ronnie say it. Thanks!

bobrobot

08-10-2006, 08:54 PM

epo

08-10-2006, 08:58 PM

MasterSoySauce wrote: The rock and roll hall of fame shouldnt even exist. I hate it. I couldn't agree more.  Just a bullshit tourist trap in Cleveland.  And who would put a tourist trap in Cleveland?  ""You don't live in Cleveland!" - Sam Wyche.

fezident

08-10-2006, 09:19 PM

I like the idea of a RnR Hall Of Fame.I don't know why people think it's such a bad idea. There are museams and HOF's for everything these days....why not Rock and Roll? People like me really do wanna see the guitar that was used on that legendary line in "My Girl". And all the old Motown outfits. For me...that stuff is like seeing Micky Mantles bat (or whatever the hell you sports fans wanna look at. Was that a bad example? I don't fuckin' know.) They have an exhibit there about the evolution of audio technology. I haven't seen it but, I bet it's pretty cool.

Bulldogcakes

08-11-2006, 03:03 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: However, KISS' album sales are on par with Black Sabbath and the Beach Boys, both of whom are in the Hall.  The Beach Boys get in for "Pet Sounds" alone, whiuch rock historians will tell you is one of the most innovative, amazing albums ever made. Black Sabbath is the band (along with Led Zeppelin) that almost every metal band around traces its roots back to. They are the Robert Johnson of heavy metal. Dont compare KISS to either of these bands, please. For your own sake.  <blockquote />

FUNKMAN

08-11-2006, 03:13 PM

Grand Funk Railroad is an American power trio band. Not usually well-received by critics, the original Grand Funk Railroad lineup was highly popular during the 1970s, having sold over 25 million records and selling out arenas world-wide. They were often cited as "the loudest rock and roll band in the worldI can't emphasize the importance of a band like Grand Funk enough. While Zeppelin, Sabbath and Deep Purple were busy churning out some great records during that same period of the late 60's and early 70's, Grand Funk was still the biggest and baddest band at the time. Aside from the Beatles, they were Capitol Records' biggest selling act. They also broke the Beatles' attendance record at Shea Stadium, selling over 50,000 seats for one show, a considerable feat for one band in those days. Songs like "Are You Ready" and "Inside Looking Out" were prime examples of the power and energy of a three-piece that rivaled Cream in pure intensity and musicianship. Patterned after Cream, but developing their own populist style, in 1970 they had sold more albums than any other American band and had become a major concert attraction. In that same year they had a hit single "Closer To Home," a song that was closer in style to the old Terry Knight and the Pack than it was to GFR. A year later, they went on to break The Beatles' record at Shea Stadium, selling out in just 71 hours. That record still stands today.<img src="http://starling.rinet.ru/music/sleeves/zap_gfr.jpg" border="0" />

Bulldogcakes

08-11-2006, 03:15 PM

ONe of the ways to see if a band is great is if they had a million imitators, and maybe even spawned a category of music in their wake ACDC is also one of the bands that many Rock/Metal bands trace their roots to. But really they get in for "Back in Black" alone. Now KISS did inspire a hoard of imitators to launch an entire genre of music. But it was 80's Glam Rock. And most of us still cringe at the thought of it and are still trying to forget it.

Bulldogcakes

08-11-2006, 03:21 PM

Grendel_Kahn wrote: KISS should get in when the Monkees do. Both bands had an equal amount of playing on their albums. And one could make the argument that The Monkees are just as ( if not better ) known to the average music listener.     CHEER UP SLEEPY JEAN! OH WHAT CAN IT MEAN, TO A DAYDREAM BELIEVER AND A HOMECOMING QUEEN! <blockquote />

Bulldogcakes

08-11-2006, 03:24 PM

fezident wrote: I like the idea of a RnR Hall Of Fame.I don't know why people think it's such a bad idea. There are museams and HOF's for everything these days....why not Rock and Roll? People like me really do wanna see the guitar that was used on that legendary line in "My Girl". And all the old Motown outfits. For me...that stuff is like seeing Micky Mantles bat (or whatever the hell you sports fans wanna look at. Was that a bad example? I don't fuckin' know.) They have an exhibit there about the evolution of audio technology. I haven't seen it but, I bet it's pretty cool. Its also (if not mainly) a marketing tool for the industry. And if it sparks debate like this, its doing its job to generate interest.  <blockquote />

cougarjake13

08-11-2006, 04:39 PM

epo wrote: MasterSoySauce wrote: The rock and roll hall of fame shouldnt even exist. I hate it. I couldn't agree more.  Just a bullshit tourist trap in Cleveland.  And who would put a tourist trap in Cleveland?  ""You don't live in Cleveland!" - Sam Wyche.probably the politicians who wanted more money coming in, i mean the indians and browns suck balls and the cavs have sucked for a while until lebron showed up, so they needed a reason for people to stop while on their way to chicago and beyond

docgoblin

08-11-2006, 05:46 PM

KISS belongs in the hall. They had talent musically. Some say Peter Gabriel, Bowie, and Alice Cooper may have done the theatrics first, I think KISS may have beat them to it. Here are some pics of them from 1973 at a little club in Amityville called The Daisy:http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/6075/acedaisy73at1.jpg http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/810/crissdaisy73kg1.jpg http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/5828/genedaisy73wh4.jpg http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/9139/pauldaisy73rk8.jpgAs you can see they were already in makeup back then. Even though I was only 12 at the time and never saw them I heard stories from my friend's brothers about the goings on at the Daisy. It was quite notorious in our little town. They all said this band was going to be amazing, and it had nothing to do with the makeup.It was all about the music.

patsopinion

08-11-2006, 05:57 PM

If there was a pop hall of fame then thats what they would be the opening band for it.They
have sold a shit load though and although they have no credibility as
"arts" but they have done a lot to bring people to shows.Gene Simmons is the mickey mouse of rock and roll and sicne the hall has no credibility in my book who cares.The real question is what should the hall do to be viable.    first- move out of ohio-i mean wtf ohio?!?

docgoblin

08-11-2006, 06:06 PM

patsopinion wrote: If there was a pop hall of fame then thats what they would be the opening band for it.They
have sold a shit load though and although they have no credibility as
"arts" but they have done a lot to bring people to shows.Gene Simmons is the mickey mouse of rock and roll and sicne the hall has no credibility in my book who cares.The real question is what should the hall do to be viable. first- move out of ohio-i mean wtf ohio?!? 
 
  See, then you're only looking at the band in hindsight. I was never a big fan, but I knew them musically very early on, and they were far from a Pop band in the 1970's. Pop at the time was the Bay City Rollers and Barry Manilow. You can't lump KISS in with that dreck! They were truly an early version of metal similar to Ted Nugent. I don't think you'd call early Nugent pop music.

patsopinion

08-11-2006, 06:11 PM

even the"nudge"(i hate that guy) didnt do a disco album.And isnt that the hole point of the hallA rookie of the year doesnt default into the baseball hall of fame so there i just killed your argument.killed it.dead.They should get in if they let blondie in though.

zildjian361

08-11-2006, 06:45 PM

FUNKMAN wrote: Grand Funk Railroad is an American power trio band. Not usually well-received by critics, the original Grand Funk Railroad lineup was highly popular during the 1970s, having sold over 25 million records and selling out arenas world-wide. They were often cited as "the loudest rock and roll band in the worldI can't emphasize the importance of a band like Grand Funk enough. While Zeppelin, Sabbath and Deep Purple were busy churning out some great records during that same period of the late 60's and early 70's, Grand Funk was still the biggest and baddest band at the time. Aside from the Beatles, they were Capitol Records' biggest selling act. They also broke the Beatles' attendance record at Shea Stadium, selling over 50,000 seats for one show, a considerable feat for one band in those days. Songs like "Are You Ready" and "Inside Looking Out" were prime examples of the power and energy of a three-piece that rivaled Cream in pure intensity and musicianship. Patterned after Cream, but developing their own populist style, in 1970 they had sold more albums than any other American band and had become a major concert attraction. In that same year they had a hit single "Closer To Home," a song that was closer in style to the old Terry Knight and the Pack than it was to GFR. A year later, they went on to break The Beatles' record at Shea Stadium, selling out in just 71 hours. That record still stands today.<img src="http://starling.rinet.ru/music/sleeves/zap_gfr.jpg" border="0" />FUNK Iwent to see GRAND FUNK RAILROAD at shea stadium in 70, but HUMBLE PIE opend up for them and kicked there ass I NEVER LOOKED BACK<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> Fuck kiss Alice Cooper Wanabees<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/tongue.gif" border="0" />

This message was edited by zildjian361 on 8-11-06 @ 10:48 PM

spoon

08-11-2006, 07:40 PM

Anyone got a copy of the list of bands in so far?  It'd be cool to argue who deserves in for the future too.  Some are no brainers, but others will garner a fight!

docgoblin

08-11-2006, 07:41 PM

patsopinion wrote: even the"nudge"(i hate that guy) didnt do a disco album.And isnt that the hole point of the hallA rookie of the year doesnt default into the baseball hall of fame so there i just killed your argument.killed it.dead.They should get in if they let blondie in though.   Ted did some embarrassing things later in his career. Many bands do that. It doesn't change their status as pioneers at the start. KISS and Ted were pioneers in their time. What they did later on should not detract from what they brought to the dance at the beginning. Again, I think we look at this stuff in hindsight and forget what these bands meant to Rock and Roll as innovators some 30-odd years ago. Blondie does belong in just as The Ramones, Talking Heads and Elvis Costello. They introduced a very new era of music with the punk and new wave scene. You should really compare KISS getting in to The Sex Pistols. The Pistols were a manufactured punk disaster, who were at the forefront of the genre but lasted only a few years. KISS were at the forefront of their respective genre, and lasted far longer than the Pistols, yet the Pistols are in and KISS is not. It's quite rediculous as far as i'm concerned. As I have said, I'm not even a big fan of the band, but given the other acts that have made it, they do belong.

FUNKMAN

08-11-2006, 07:42 PM

zildjian361 wrote: FUNKMAN wrote:  FUNK Iwent to see GRAND FUNK RAILROAD at shea stadium in 70, but HUMBLE PIE opend up for them and kicked there ass I NEVER LOOKED BACK<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> Fuck kiss Alice Cooper Wanabees<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/tongue.gif" border="0" />   okay thanks man, thanks alot for shooting my hopes and dreams to hell... appreciate it!   bastard  <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/tongue.gif" border="0" />

docgoblin

08-11-2006, 07:44 PM

spoon wrote: Anyone got a copy of the list of bands in so far? It'd be cool to argue who deserves in for the future too. Some are no brainers, but others will garner a fight! <h1 class="mediatitle">Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Members</h1><table border="0" class="mediatable"><tr class="tableColumnHeader"><td class="tableCell">
Inductees
</td><td class="tableCell">
Year inducted
</td></tr></table><table border="0" class="mediatable"><tr class="tableDivider"><td align="left" class="tableCell" colspan="2">
Performers
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AC/DC
</td><td align="left" class="tableCell">
2003
</td></tr><tr class="tableRow"><td align="left" class="tableCell">
Aerosmith
</td><td align="left" class="tableCell">
2001
</td></tr><tr class="tableRow"><td align="left" class="tableCell">
Allman Brothers Band, The
</td><td align="left" class="tableCell">
1995
</td></tr><tr class="tableRow"><td align="left" class="tableCell">
Animals, The
</td><td align="left" class="tableCell">
1994
</td></tr><tr class="tableRow"><td align="left" class="tableCell">
Baker, LaVern
</td><td align="left" class="tableCell">
1991
</td></tr><tr class="tableRow"><td align="left" class="tableCell">
Ballard, Hank
</td><td align="left" class="tableCell">
1990
</td></tr><tr class="tableRow"><td align="left" class="tableCell">
Band, The
</td><td align="left" class="tableCell">
1994
</td></tr><tr class="tableRow"><td align="left" class="tableCell">
Beach Boys, The
</td><td align="left" class="tableCell">
1988
</td></tr><tr class="tableRow"><td align="left" class="tableCell">
Beatles, The
</td><td align="left" class="tableCell">
1988
</td></tr><tr class="tableRow"><td align="left" class="tableCell">
Bee Gees, The
</td><td align="left" class="tableCell">
1997
</td></tr><tr class="tableRow"><td align="left" class="tableCell">
Berry, Chuck
</td><td align="left" class="tableCell">
1986
</td></tr><tr class="tableRow"><td align="left" class="tableCell">
Black Sabbath
</td><td align="left" class="tableCell">
2006
</td></tr><tr class="tableRow"><td align="left" class="tableCell">
Blondie
</td><td align="left" class="tableCell">
2006
</td></tr><tr class="tableRow"><td align="left" class="tableCell">
Bobby 'Blue' Bland
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1992
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1992
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1996
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1986
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1993
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2004
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1997
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2001
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1991
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A.J.

04-09-2007, 07:04 AM

Former KISS guitarist dies (http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Music/04/09/music.kiss.reut/index.html).

Alice S. Fuzzybutt

04-09-2007, 07:07 AM

You know what my vote is.

high fly

04-14-2007, 10:21 PM

Of course KISS should be in there.
They let anyone in.

Dopey name for the place.
It should be the Music Hall of One-Hit Wonders and Up.

wonderwoman

04-14-2007, 11:10 PM

<a href="http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,19698,00.html" target="_self">So the KISS Army is making a big stink over the fact that KISS has been on the ballot since 1999 and has not been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame yet.</a> Personally, I see the Rock and Roll HOF to be an utter waste of time, but, I can see their point. A lot of people will say that KISS' music wasn't "deep", but you know what?  AC/DC and ZZ Top is in the Hall.  There's no reason why KISS shouldn't be in.  For the pure music, the GENERAL style was the same - innuendo about sex, blazing guitar riffs.  I'm pretty sure that KISS has also out-sold AC/DC and ZZ Top, but I'm not positive. (And yes, I know ZZ Top is more blues-based, but I think there can be a lot of parallels drawn between AC/DC and KISS)  The difference is, KISS was an EXPERIENCE.  You went to a KISS live show and you were absolutely blown away by the theatrics and everything else.    This isn't the Merchandising and Marketing Hall of Fame, or the Music Snob Hall of Fame.  It's the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and I'm pretty sure the quintessential American rock bank of the late 70's was KISS.     

I agree completely with Tenbats, whenever I go to a Kiss show, I dont only go for the music but knowing the fact that I will be blown away at their live show They are the ultimate showmen in my book who have stood the test of time and can still fill up pretty good any indoor/outdoor arena they travel too. Granted they dont sell-out the place like they used too back in the day but they still have very good sized crowds going to their show.
I'm actually shocked that they are not already in, I agree maybe it should be called the Music Snob hall of Fame. To this day theyre are still alot Kiss fans me included that would love nothing more than for them to get the credit they so deserve. Hell, If VanHalen got in they sure as hell need to get in as well. I honestly dont understand the hold up.:down:

KISS WERE THE QUINTESSENTIAL ROCK BAND OF THE '70'S IN MY BOOK without a doubt.