College Football 2007!! [Archive] - Page 3

johnniewalker

12-02-2006, 08:29 PM

El Mudo wrote: hmmm.... One loss SEC Team vs. One loss Big 10 team?  It should be the one loss SEC team especially when Florida just beat a HELL of an Arkansas team by 10 points and a really good LSU team and a decent Tennessee team,  but it'll be Michigan, since FOX will love the re-match   I HATE the Big 10....  And by the way...  <img src="http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/f62939c4-c935-46e5-bb93-8621ec7b9c06.jpg" border="0" width="512" height="329" />   I cannot expess in words how SICK this picture makes me feel...it feels like a kick to the balls All the teams in the ACC should be ashamed of that picture.    Its  a tough tough decision for number 2.  I'm partial to big 10 b/c i went to Wisconsin, but honestly watching how tough the SEC was this year I think Florida should go.    LSU is really good, Arkansas is fun to watch and tough.  Georgia, Auburn, Tennesee.  Its not like their records reflect their play.

El Mudo

12-03-2006, 06:58 AM

ESPN's projecting the BCS matchups this way:  National Title: Ohio State v. Michigan/FloridaRose: Southern Cal v. Michigan/LSUOrange: Wake Forest v. LouisvilleFiesta: Oklahoma v. Boise StateSugar: Notre Dame v. Florida/LSU Now its kinda confusing, but they said that if Florida beats out Michigan, Michigan will go to the Rose and LSU will go to the Sugar. If Michigan beats out Florida (the more likely scenario unfortunately), LSU goes to the Rose and Florida goes to the Sugar(because Florida won the SEC title, the Sugar is their tie-in). The ones locked in are the Conference tie-ins, meaning Wake/Louisville and Oklahoma/Boisie are already set (Boisie gets in by finishing in the top 12 of the BCS, their way of trying to get more mid-major programs from smaller conferences involved) 

This message was edited by El Mudo on 12-3-06 @ 11:09 AM

JimBeam

12-03-2006, 09:10 AM

I gotta say I didnt think USC would lose that game although I knew in the back of my mind it could happen. I believe it was USC who upset and undefeated UCLA team in the last game of the year ( prior to the BCS ).They had a stat that in the last 10 years or so a #1 or #2 team in the BCS has lost their last game of the year 8 times.Here they are :  <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="288" style="width: 217pt; border-collapse: collapse"><tbody><tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt"><td class="xl22" width="46" height="17" style="width: 35pt; height: 12.75pt; background-color: #969696; border: #ece9d8"><div style="line-height: 17px">Year</div></td><td class="xl22" width="108" style="width: 81pt; background-color: #969696; border: #ece9d8">Team</td><td class="xl22" width="134" style="width: 101pt; background-color: #969696; border: #ece9d8">Lost to</td></tr><tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt"><td class="xl23" height="17" style="height: 12.75pt; background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8">2006</td><td class="xl23" style="background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8">No. 2 USC</td><td class="xl23" style="background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8">UCLA</td></tr><tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt"><td class="xl23" height="17" style="height: 12.75pt; background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8">2006</td><td class="xl23" style="background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8">No. 2 Michigan</td><td class="xl23" style="background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8">No. 1 Ohio State</td></tr><tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt"><td class="xl23" height="17" style="height: 12.75pt; background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8">2003</td><td class="xl23" style="background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8">No. 1 Oklahoma</td><td class="xl23" style="background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8">No. 15 Kansas State</td></tr><tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt"><td class="xl23" height="17" style="height: 12.75pt; background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8">2003</td><td class="xl23" style="background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8">No. 2 Ohio State</td><td class="xl23" style="background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8">No. 9 Michigan</td></tr><tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt"><td class="xl23" height="17" style="height: 12.75pt; background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8">2001</td><td class="xl23" style="background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8">No. 2 Tennessee</td><td class="xl23" style="background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8">LSU</td></tr><tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt"><td class="xl23" height="17" style="height: 12.75pt; background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8">2001</td><td class="xl23" style="background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8">No. 2 Florida</td><td class="xl23" style="background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8">No. 6 Tennessee</td></tr><tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt"><td class="xl23" height="17" style="height: 12.75pt; background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8">2001</td><td class="xl23" style="background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8">No. 1 Nebraska</td><td class="xl23" style="background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8">No. 15 Colorado</td></tr>

FUNKMAN

12-03-2006, 09:41 AM

LSU would take Ohio State easy... too bad they won't play

El Mudo

12-03-2006, 04:59 PM

They picked it right this time....  Get ready for Florida/Ohio State

johnniewalker

12-03-2006, 05:16 PM

I still feel dirty about this whole thing.  I feel like its more that people don't want to see a rematch rather than who is the best team.  Oh well, I got my wish I guess.

HBox

12-03-2006, 05:20 PM

Ah yes, the yearly reminder why I can never get invested in college football.

El Mudo

12-03-2006, 05:25 PM

HBox wrote: Ah yes, the yearly reminder why I can never get invested in college football.  That's right...As many times as I say it, every year I still have to explain that the College Presidents WILL NOT give up the Bowl money...IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN Therefore, this is the best system we're going to get....live with it people.  And I just can't wait to read the columns to-morrow bemoaning the lack of a playoff.  Rehashing the same tired arguments that get made every year. Now go back to that Sunday garbage, Lupica! 

This message was edited by El Mudo on 12-3-06 @ 9:28 PM

HBox

12-03-2006, 05:50 PM

El Mudo wrote: HBox wrote: Ah yes, the yearly reminder why I can never get invested in college football.  That's right...As many times as I say it, every year I still have to explain that the College Presidents WILL NOT give up the Bowl money...IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN Therefore, this is the best system we're going to get....live with it people. And I just can't wait to read the columns to-morrow bemoaning the lack of a playoff. Rehashing the same tired arguments that get made every year. Now go back to that Sunday garbage, Lupica! This message was edited by El Mudo on 12-3-06 @ 9:28 PMYou really think the "College Presidents are too greedy so it will never happen" argument is one that will win over people? I'll go back to wtaching the professionals who know how to play the sport in the league that can figure out how to crown a real champion over amateur (in every aspect of the sport) hour.

El Mudo

12-03-2006, 07:37 PM

HBox wrote: El Mudo wrote: HBox wrote: Ah yes, the yearly reminder why I can never get invested in college football.  That's right...As many times as I say it, every year I still have to explain that the College Presidents WILL NOT give up the Bowl money...IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN Therefore, this is the best system we're going to get....live with it people. And I just can't wait to read the columns to-morrow bemoaning the lack of a playoff. Rehashing the same tired arguments that get made every year. Now go back to that Sunday garbage, Lupica! This message was edited by El Mudo on 12-3-06 @ 9:28 PMYou really think the "College Presidents are too greedy so it will never happen" argument is one that will win over people? I'll go back to wtaching the professionals who know how to play the sport in the league that can figure out how to crown a real champion over amateur (in every aspect of the sport) hour.  It's not an argument meant to win over people.  Its more about the fact that this is the reality we live in, and it will never change, no matter how much you complain about it.  You'll NEVER get the Presidents to give up that money. And besides, not only is the playoff unfeasable for a variety of reasons(most of them dealing with the money schools would lose out on), but one of the beauties of college football is that every single regular season game means something. And thirdly, did not the last 6 weeks of the season we just had constitute a playoff?  Everyone played each other, and these are the two teams that weren't eliminated.  And of all the times we hear of the BCS getting it wrong, how come we never give it props when it gets things right?  Is this not at least an improvement over the old, old system?

HBox

12-03-2006, 07:56 PM

And of all the times we hear of the BCS getting it wrong, how come we never give it props when it gets things right?  Is this not at least an improvement over the old, old system? Having a real champion, EVERY YEAR, should be a given in a sport. A fucked up system that gives you what a sizeable portion of fans might consider a legitimate champion every so often doesn't deserve props EVER. It merely occasionally manages not to fuck things up sometimes in the opinion of some people.Boise State didn't lose anything all season. What about them. Shouldn't they have some sort of shot? What more could they possibly have done to earn it? Michigan had just as many losses as Florida. Louisville did too and won their conference. What sets Florida apart from them? It's all a matter of opinion.My opinion is that it's not worth it to get attached to any team, or even the sport in general, in a system like this.

Tenbatsuzen

12-04-2006, 10:07 AM

Schiano's staying at Rutgers  Rutgers football coach Greg Schiano said today he would remain at the helm of the Scarlet Knights' program, rejecting feelers from the University of Miami. Schiano said at a news conference he has not reached an agreement to extend his contract at Rutgers but that the two sides were talking. "For the last six weeks, the Miami job has been asked of me, and I've been consistent with what I've said about Rutgers. I did speak (with Miami AD Paul Dee). During those conversations, he asked if I wanted to be considered for the job. Although I'm very flattered that the University of Miami would consider me a candidate, Rutgers is where I want to be and where I'm going to be. I'm not a candidate for that job."

JimBeam

12-04-2006, 10:37 AM

How can you expect a system that has 117 teams to be as definetive as one that has 30 ?If the NFL was so correct, and names the real champion, there'd be no wild card.Now I'm not anti-wild card but dont tell me that giving a team a second crack at a division champ is fair.Same thing with Michigan.If there was a playoff they would/should be out because they didnt win their division.Florida did. Boise State and Louisville and Oklahoma did.I keep hearing that you cant penalize a team for losing late but you want to reward a team for losing in what's considered a " good " loss ?So if Mich had gone on and beaten Oh St in a remact wouldnt you be penalizing Oh St for losing late when they had already won that matchup ?I've been totally screwed up with this.Are there now going to be 2 games played in the Fiesta Bowl this year with the 2nd game rotating every year ?One called the Fiesta and the other the BCS Championship ?I can't wait to hear the excuse if/WHEN both Oh St and Mich lose their bowl games.I've written in much detail about how over-rated Mich was but for the most part I've laid off Oh St because they went undefeated and they were the only " real " team to do so.But in all honesty they played only 2 games all year. And the one that has given them the most cred is the win over Texas. A Texas team playing in the Copper Bowl or something like that.

HBox

12-04-2006, 10:39 AM

How can you expect a system that has 117 teams to be as definetive as one that has 30 ?College Basketball says hello.

JimBeam

12-04-2006, 11:04 AM

Here's the difference :Most, if not all, college basketball conferences allow each team to play twice during the regular season.Most, if not all, basketball conferences have a conference championship.In college basketball you can easily transport 12 guys to a site and ask them to play 4 games in 4 days.Transporting 53 guys to a location and asking them to play on consecutive days is a bit much.

cougarjake13

12-04-2006, 04:50 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Schiano's staying at Rutgers  Rutgers football coach Greg Schiano said today he would remain at the helm of the Scarlet Knights' program, rejecting feelers from the University of Miami. Schiano said at a news conference he has not reached an agreement to extend his contract at Rutgers but that the two sides were talking. "For the last six weeks, the Miami job has been asked of me, and I've been consistent with what I've said about Rutgers. I did speak (with Miami AD Paul Dee). During those conversations, he asked if I wanted to be considered for the job. Although I'm very flattered that the University of Miami would consider me a candidate, Rutgers is where I want to be and where I'm going to be. I'm not a candidate for that job."i'm glad he decided to stay, now he'll hopefully get better recruits and in ten yrs be able to look back and say look what i built here and its all mine

El Mudo

12-04-2006, 05:23 PM

Having a real champion, EVERY YEAR, should be a given in a sport. A fucked up system that gives you what a sizeable portion of fans might consider a legitimate champion every so often doesn't deserve props EVER. It merely occasionally manages not to fuck things up sometimes in the opinion of some people. I never really gave it props.  Would I like there to be a playoff? Of course.  I would also like to be banging Scarlett Johansson, but it ain't gonna happen. Same with the BCS.  Therefore, THIS is the best system we're going to get, so deal with it.   Boise State didn't lose anything all season. What about them. Shouldn't they have some sort of shot? What more could they possibly have done to earn it? Michigan had just as many losses as Florida. Louisville did too and won their conference. What sets Florida apart from them? It's all a matter of opinion. 1) Boise plays in the WAC, a non-BCS conference, which is why they created a fifth BCS game for the  mid major conferences 2)Florida plays in the SEC.  It lost one game in the SEC. The SEC is the best conference in college football every single year. End of story.  Not opinon....fact. Are there now going to be 2 games played in the Fiesta Bowl this year with the 2nd game rotating every year ?One called the Fiesta and the other the BCS Championship ?  What they did was add another BCS game to give more teams a chance to get in there, like the Boise Mid Major types that finish in the top 12.  Basically, they are playing the Fiesta Bowl twice, but the National Title game is not the Fiesta Bowl, its now called The National Championship, and it rotates among the big time bowls (Orange, Sugar, Fiesta and Rose) How can you expect a system that has 117 teams to be as definetive as one that has 30 ?College Basketball says hello   It also costs about 5 cents to run a basketball team, not so much in football. A playoff will never happen, as ive said before, because of the money issue.(a) they'd have to shorten the regular season, meaning schools lose home games, which means they lose money, not just through tickets and concessions, but also through sponsorships(b) The conferences all agreed to the BCS system, because its big time bucks.   Thats the bottom line here. Unlike the other Divisions of football, D-1 means big time money.  Not just from sponsors, but from boosters, advertisers and the like. And if you suddenly have to move teams all over the place repeateldly for a playoffs, that means it costs schools MORE money to ship them all over the place  Its never ever ever ever ever ever going to happen folks.  So let's just stop arguing about it ever year.

cougarjake13

12-05-2006, 02:58 PM

its been suggested many times but i never heard a reason against itwhy cant they use the bowls as part of the playoffshave the top 4, 6, or 8 teams which ever works and have them play the games at different bowl sites, all other non playoff teams will still get to play in their bowls and receive all the money they wont let go ofevery year like now rotate which bowl gets the nat'l championship, and if the 6 or 8 team playoff format works out then its possible for 1 or 2 schools to have multiple bowls and like the wayans bros saymo money mo money mo money

El Mudo

12-05-2006, 07:35 PM

cougarjake13 wrote: its been suggested many times but i never heard a reason against itwhy cant they use the bowls as part of the playoffshave the top 4, 6, or 8 teams which ever works and have them play the games at different bowl sites, all other non playoff teams will still get to play in their bowls and receive all the money they wont let go ofevery year like now rotate which bowl gets the nat'l championship, and if the 6 or 8 team playoff format works out then its possible for 1 or 2 schools to have multiple bowls and like the wayans bros saymo money mo money mo money  I think this piece from an ESPN column says it best: Playoff? How many teams? When would it start? Would it be an eight-team playoff, beginning the week after conference championship games, smack-dab in the middle of final exams at most schools? Are fans -- and students -- expected to pay to travel for these games right before Christmas?Want to add a plus-one to the bowls? Sounds OK on paper, but that would eliminate one of the best things about bowl games -- every team has had weeks to rest, making them the only postseason games without weary competitors. Further, playing that deep into January might interfere with the NCAA's gentleman's agreement with the NFL not to step on each other's turfs (the reason the NFL doesn't air Saturday games until late in the season). So don't bet on it.And does anyone really think a playoff would stop the complaining around this time of year? No matter what, somebody on the margins will whine. The BCS chooses two teams to play for the national championship, and there's almost always a third team complaining about being left out. Expand to an eight-team playoff, and get ready for talk radio debates on how it's impossible for some committee to decide which two-loss team is the best.So until someone comes up with an idea for how to make a playoff work, the BCS is the best we've got.   Here's the link....the guy's basically making the same points ive been making for 7 years http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=jones/061205&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos1

JimBeam

12-06-2006, 08:39 AM

I read another interesting quip where it stated that neither the old bowl way would get it right every time nor would the BCS.The point would be that in the old way Florida and Mich would play head to head with Florida as the SEC champ and Mich the at large bid.Oh St would play USC in the Rose Bowl and if they won would be considered the unanimous champ but if they lost the winner of the UF/Mich game would get the title.Last year's matchup wouldnt have happened in the old bowl system as USC would've played Oh St and Texas would've played an at large team.I dont think the plus one game works, as I've pointed out before, because would it have been fair for Texas to have had to play another team last year after having beaten USC ?They'd have to play a 1 loss Oh St team in a +1 game ?Makes no sense.I read a few good quotes from people regarding their votes in the Harris poll.All guys who voted UF ahead of Mich1 guy said that he didnt see why he would have to crown Mich a champion if they beat Oh St in the BCS game when Oh St had already won that gameAnother guy, would voted UF #1 ahead of Oh St, said that he didnt think that either Oh St or Mich could go through UF's schedule with only 1 loss.Another guy pointed out that Mich is hanging their hat on a win against Wisconsin ( whol played 1 ranked team Mich, and lost ) and ND ( who he stated one the Commander In Chief trophy ).Another guy said that with all this talk of a playoff system he voted UF ahead of Mich because they had actually won their conference and that should mean something.As I said in a previous post I can only hope that UF and USC both come up with wins so that way everybody can look back and see that the " 2 best teams " in the country lost their bowl games.

El Mudo

12-06-2006, 03:33 PM

The Heisman finalists are Troy Smith, Brady Quinn, and Darren McFadden (without Whitehead)  I don't get how they courtesy invite McFadden (its obvious to anyone with a brain its going to Smith), but no invite for Slaton and/or Pat White? That makes no sense to me.  I didn't see two more dynamic players all year than those two

JimBeam

12-07-2006, 11:33 AM

El Mudo for a guys that's been fairly pro-SEC how could you not have seen that McFadden's highlights were better than the over-rated efforts of White and Slaton ?What he did in the Tennessee game alone earned him that 3rd spot.I'm not taking anything away from Smith but he's fortunate that ND sucked in their few big spots and that there really wasnt any knockout candidates this year.I mean he went undefeated which is great but he's not gonna be a Heisman winner that anybody's gonna remember.I mean jay Barker lead an undefeated team to a championship with pedestrian numbers and he didnt win the H-man.Who did win it ? Gino Toretta I believe. How'd that turn out for him ?H-man jinx here we come. Go Gators !!

cougarjake13

12-07-2006, 05:00 PM

why do they limit to just 3 finalists ???

cougarjake13

12-07-2006, 06:10 PM

miami hires shannon as new coach<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2690489">http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2690489</a>

El Mudo

12-07-2006, 08:40 PM

JimBeam wrote: El Mudo for a guys that's been fairly pro-SEC how could you not have seen that McFadden's highlights were better than the over-rated efforts of White and Slaton ?What he did in the Tennessee game alone earned him that 3rd spot.I'm not taking anything away from Smith but he's fortunate that ND sucked in their few big spots and that there really wasnt any knockout candidates this year.I mean he went undefeated which is great but he's not gonna be a Heisman winner that anybody's gonna remember.I mean jay Barker lead an undefeated team to a championship with pedestrian numbers and he didnt win the H-man.Who did win it ? Gino Toretta I believe. How'd that turn out for him ?H-man jinx here we come. Go Gators !! I assume everyone's holding that Louisville game against Slaton, but everyone forgets the guy's arm was pretty mangled during the course of that game...it was tough for him to hold on to the football I'm not holding anything against McFadden (or Whitehead) at all...but I do think Slaton and/or White should get a courtesy invite too, because they did some really amazing things out there on the football field...crappy conference or not, once Slaton got to the edge, forget it.  Same with White. I didn't see two bigger gamebreakers all year, and the only ones that really came close were McFadden and Felix Jones.  I think theyre both victims of finishing slowly due to injuries....Slaton's been banged up and White didn't play against Rutgers cause of turf toe.  I don't think Slaton and White are overrated, I actually think you can view Slaton/White and McFadden/Felix Jones as basically similar entities...both are products of gimmicky offenses that rely on a lot of speed and deception.  It pains me to say all this stuff, cause I HATE West Virginia, but I think those two, or at least one of them, should be there, just for the body of work they've put together this year.

cougarjake13

12-08-2006, 02:03 PM

guess rodriguez isn't going to alabama after allwith the rumored deal of 6 yr 12 mil that would pay him more than spurrier, is he really worth more than spurrier ????<a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6250042">http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6250042</a>

JimBeam

12-09-2006, 12:02 PM

I did thought they usually invited 5 guys to the awrad but maybe not.I still think both W Va guys wouldnt have done what they did against better athletes in other conferences and I dont think you should be considered based on " well I might have done this if I didnt do that ".I think it's a moot point anyway because the award should be Smith's deserving or not.I heard one writer saying that the deal Rodriguez took to stay at West Va is actually less than the one Bama was offering. Bama's salary was lower but with even minimal performances the incentives would make it more than West Va's offer.I dont know much about the guy Miami promoted but I would've thought they'd have gone out of house to get somebody.There's talk of Gruden for bama but the same writer I think said that he didnt think Gruden would leave the NFL especially not with the status of the Bucs.

cougarjake13

12-09-2006, 01:22 PM

JimBeam wrote: I dont know much about the guy Miami promoted but I would've thought they'd have gone out of house to get somebody. i dont remember where i saw it but i saw something that said miami ususally likes to stay in housecoker and davis were both promoted from the def coord to head coach

JimBeam

12-09-2006, 01:33 PM

Yeah but Miami's recent problems have come from the current/prior staff.Do you think the guy who was supposedly Coker's #2 can turn it around ?He's as much at fault as Coker is in a way

cougarjake13

12-10-2006, 06:38 AM

JimBeam wrote: Yeah but Miami's recent problems have come from the current/prior staff.Do you think the guy who was supposedly Coker's #2 can turn it around ?He's as much at fault as Coker is in a wayhe's black most of the players are black so i think it'll work out ok for a while

JimBeam

12-10-2006, 08:59 AM

Well let's hope for them him being black will allow him some more administrative control as opposed to thinking he can " relate " when they do something wrong.I wish him luck but we'll see.

JimBeam

12-14-2006, 12:43 PM

This article's mentioning how LSU " could've " been better if they didnt lose the 2 games.Well they did lose them and not only that they should've lost to Ole Miss as well.<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2690251" target="_blank">http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2690251</a>

El Mudo

12-14-2006, 09:11 PM

Miami's problem has been their offense...consistently over the last 5 years its gotten worse and worse and worse... they don't have or get any playmakers there any more. I don't see how hiring Shannon, a defensive minded coach, although a really good one, will fix the problem with the offense, unless they want to turn themselves into the Baltimore Ravens, with Kirby Freeman and/or Kyle Wright playing the role of Steve McNair, which I don't see happening.

goreds2

12-28-2006, 03:09 AM

Today (12/28/06): PetroSun Independence Bowl: Oklahoma St. vs. Alabama XM Sports Nation - XM 143 - 4:30 PM ET Listen to the games on XM Sports Nation XM 143 which is the home to the Bowl Championship Series in 2007. Tonight, tune in for coverage of the PetroSun Independence Bowl where Oklahoma St. takes on Alabama.

El Mudo

12-28-2006, 05:53 AM

I'm fired up for the Champs Sports Bowl tomorrow... Let's Go Terps!

Tenbatsuzen

01-01-2007, 12:12 PM

This WVU/GT game has been REALLY exciting.

cougarjake13

01-01-2007, 01:21 PM

whats up with the george lucas star wars thing with the rose bowl ???

BoondockSaint

01-01-2007, 01:23 PM

He was Grand Marshal of the Rose Parade this year.

El Mudo

01-02-2007, 04:34 AM

Anyone still think Michigan should have been in the NC game?  I hate those Big 10 buttboys at ABC and ESPN....enough already...

cougarjake13

01-02-2007, 03:22 PM

El Mudo wrote: Anyone still think Michigan should have been in the NC game?  I hate those Big 10 buttboys at ABC and ESPN....enough already... hell noand they proved all the posters right but not putting them in

El Mudo

01-03-2007, 07:11 AM

Nick Saban took the Alabama job

PhishHead

01-03-2007, 07:25 AM

El Mudo wrote: Nick Saban took the Alabama job worse move ever

JimBeam

01-03-2007, 09:43 AM

Yeah I loved that USC pasted those Mich humps.Now we can go from " oh they only lost 1 tough game " to now they've lost 2 games in a row to ranked teams.They were over-rated from the get go and it would've been a crime to have them play Oh St again.Now if Oh St loses we can show completely how the Big 10 was over-rated as well.Go Gators.

cougarjake13

01-03-2007, 03:20 PM

PhishHead wrote: El Mudo wrote: Nick Saban took the Alabama job  worse move everi think lou pineilla to the d rays was worse

lleeder

01-03-2007, 04:41 PM

Fake punt?

cougarjake13

01-03-2007, 04:44 PM

lleeder wrote: Fake punt?yeh too bad it didnt work and it resulted in a lsu touchdown

lleeder

01-03-2007, 04:59 PM

I guess gimmick plays are the theme of these bowl games

BoondockSaint

01-03-2007, 05:00 PM

And of course ND is playing like shit in a big game.  Again.

cougarjake13

01-03-2007, 05:14 PM

BoondockSaint wrote: And of course ND is playing like shit in a big game.  Again. well they just scored a TD so its only 14-7, and lsu got one score from a failed fake punt that gave lsu great field positionmaybe it'll be a game after all

cougarjake13

01-03-2007, 05:22 PM

maybe its just normal growth but i remember ja marcus russell being skinny a few years back when lsu won half a championshiphe looks jacked up now

TheGameHHH

01-03-2007, 07:05 PM

i hate the fact that i love notre dame and have to watch them lose bowl games year after year.

Bama

01-03-2007, 10:30 PM

Who didn't see that beatdown coming? Everyone act real surprised when Florida wins the NC.

PhishHead

01-04-2007, 02:18 AM

TheGameHHH wrote: i hate the fact that i love notre dame and have to watch them lose bowl games year after year.  to be exact its year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year and i die a little bit each year.

Tenbatsuzen

01-04-2007, 04:51 AM

<img src="http://espn-ak.starwave.com/photo/2007/0103/ncf_a_weis_412.jpg" border="0" width="412" height="232" />ESPN's front page pic as of 9am this morning.  That's attractive.  Jesus.Didn't Weis get his stomach stapled in order to slim down?  Or was he the one who got sick from the operation?

PhishHead

01-04-2007, 05:33 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: <img src="http://espn-ak.starwave.com/photo/2007/0103/ncf_a_weis_412.jpg" border="0" width="412" height="232" />ESPN's front page pic as of 9am this morning. That's attractive. Jesus.Didn't Weis get his stomach stapled in order to slim down? Or was he the one who got sick from the operation?   it was stapled, he went into a coma from t and almost died due to excess blood loss and septic shock(actually sued the hospital).  He did lose weight though, if you look at him during the patriots regime and winning the 2 superbowls he looks thinner then.  For some reason though he has gained it all back, who knows why, maybe he got it unstapled if that is possible??

Freakshow

01-04-2007, 05:46 AM

Bama wrote: Who didn't see that beatdown coming?ÿEveryone act real surprised when Florida wins the NC.

Except the Big Ten is 2-0 against the SEC so far. And Wiskey and PSU held their opponenents more than 15 points below their season averages. And OSU has a better ranked scoring defense than either of them (#1 in the country, by the way).

They just don't play defense anywhere but the Big Ten. Perhaps the ACC, but I just don't watch enought games to state decisively.

El Mudo

01-04-2007, 07:08 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: <img src="http://espn-ak.starwave.com/photo/2007/0103/ncf_a_weis_412.jpg" border="0" width="412" height="232" />ESPN's front page pic as of 9am this morning. That's attractive. Jesus.Didn't Weis get his stomach stapled in order to slim down? Or was he the one who got sick from the operation?   He's still got nothing on Coach Friedgen   <img src="http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2005/11/12/PH2005111200107.jpg" border="0" width="228" height="250" /> or Mark Mangino <img src="http://media.kansan.com/img/photos/2005/09/11/mangino_t450.jpg" border="0" width="450" height="532" />  Or the guy from Toledo  <img src="http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/tol/sports/m-footbl/auto_action/295617.jpeg" border="0" />   I LOVE big fat Offensive geniuses!

Snacks

01-04-2007, 07:23 AM

Bama wrote: Who didn't see that beatdown coming? Everyone act real surprised when Florida wins the NC.I wont be I think Florida wins the BCS game

yomudder21

01-04-2007, 07:33 AM

I am so glad the Charlie 'the bunt' lost last night..........

cougarjake13

01-04-2007, 03:59 PM

Freakshow wrote: Bama wrote: Who didn't see that beatdown coming? Everyone act real surprised when Florida wins the NC. Except the Big Ten is 2-0 against the SEC so far. And Wiskey and PSU held their opponenents more than 15 points below their season averages. And OSU has a better ranked scoring defense than either of them (#1 in the country, by the way). They just don't play defense anywhere but the Big Ten. Perhaps the ACC, but I just don't watch enought games to state decisively. so b/c wisconsin beat arkansas and penn state beat tennesse that means ohio state beats floridawhy even play the game then, to quote dennis green " you wanna fuckin crown em, then crown em"

JimBeam

01-05-2007, 08:36 AM

Yeah really.So a Penn St win against the 5th best SEC team and Wisconsin's first win against a ranked team is what validates the Big 10 ?How'd that Purdue game turn out ?What about Minnesota ? If only the 4th quarter was shorter than the others maybe that's a win.How'd The " Real #2 " team do against USC ?So 2-0 against the SEC but 0-4 against the ACC, Big 12 twice and PAC10 is something to be proud of ?Quite the defense the Big 10 had in the bowl games.Giving up 31.5 points per game in their losses ( outscored 90-126 )Being outscored in all games 127-150.And what's with ND ?Come on !!!Now have lost 9 straight bowl games ( an NCAA record ).If Weis is such an offensive genius how does he get outcoached by Les Miles ( ???????????? ) ?What did they have 2 yards rushing in the 2nd half ?Terrible.They better recruit only DBs this offseason I'll tell you that.

PhishHead

01-05-2007, 08:48 AM

JimBeam wrote: Yeah really.So a Penn St win against the 5th best SEC team and Wisconsin's first win against a ranked team is what validates the Big 10 ?How'd that Purdue game turn out ?What about Minnesota ? If only the 4th quarter was shorter than the others maybe that's a win.How'd The " Real #2 " team do against USC ?So 2-0 against the SEC but 0-4 against the ACC, Big 12 twice and PAC10 is something to be proud of ?Quite the defense the Big 10 had in the bowl games.Giving up 31.5 points per game in their losses ( outscored 90-126 )Being outscored in all games 127-150.And what's with ND ?Come on !!!Now have lost 9 straight bowl games ( an NCAA record ).If Weis is such an offensive genius how does he get outcoached by Les Miles ( ???????????? ) ?What did they have 2 yards rushing in the 2nd half ?Terrible.They better recruit only DBs this offseason I'll tell you that.    we did get Gary Gray, Golden Tate(depending what position he plays) and Harrison smith.Harrison and Gray are two amazing talents.We also have McNeil and Walls who will be sophmores next year and hopefully step up.  Walls got beat alot this year.

El Mudo

01-05-2007, 10:35 AM

PhishHead wrote: JimBeam wrote: Yeah really.So a Penn St win against the 5th best SEC team and Wisconsin's first win against a ranked team is what validates the Big 10 ?How'd that Purdue game turn out ?What about Minnesota ? If only the 4th quarter was shorter than the others maybe that's a win.How'd The " Real #2 " team do against USC ?So 2-0 against the SEC but 0-4 against the ACC, Big 12 twice and PAC10 is something to be proud of ?Quite the defense the Big 10 had in the bowl games.Giving up 31.5 points per game in their losses ( outscored 90-126 )Being outscored in all games 127-150.And what's with ND ?Come on !!!Now have lost 9 straight bowl games ( an NCAA record ).If Weis is such an offensive genius how does he get outcoached by Les Miles ( ???????????? ) ?What did they have 2 yards rushing in the 2nd half ?Terrible.They better recruit only DBs this offseason I'll tell you that.    we did get Gary Gray, Golden Tate(depending what position he plays) and Harrison smith.Harrison and Gray are two amazing talents.We also have McNeil and Walls who will be sophmores next year and hopefully step up. Walls got beat alot this year.  Don't forget Jimmy Clausen....he doesn't play D, but he's supposed to be the next big thing

PhishHead

01-05-2007, 10:55 AM

El Mudo wrote: PhishHead wrote: JimBeam wrote: Yeah really.So a Penn St win against the 5th best SEC team and Wisconsin's first win against a ranked team is what validates the Big 10 ?How'd that Purdue game turn out ?What about Minnesota ? If only the 4th quarter was shorter than the others maybe that's a win.How'd The " Real #2 " team do against USC ?So 2-0 against the SEC but 0-4 against the ACC, Big 12 twice and PAC10 is something to be proud of ?Quite the defense the Big 10 had in the bowl games.Giving up 31.5 points per game in their losses ( outscored 90-126 )Being outscored in all games 127-150.And what's with ND ?Come on !!!Now have lost 9 straight bowl games ( an NCAA record ).If Weis is such an offensive genius how does he get outcoached by Les Miles ( ???????????? ) ?What did they have 2 yards rushing in the 2nd half ?Terrible.They better recruit only DBs this offseason I'll tell you that.    we did get Gary Gray, Golden Tate(depending what position he plays) and Harrison smith.Harrison and Gray are two amazing talents.We also have McNeil and Walls who will be sophmores next year and hopefully step up. Walls got beat alot this year. Don't forget Jimmy Clausen....he doesn't play D, but he's supposed to be the next big thing   i only named DBs.I could have named Clausen, Little, Kamara, Ragone, Trattou, Allen

Bama

01-08-2007, 07:59 PM

Bama wrote: Who didn't see that beatdown coming? Everyone act real surprised when Florida wins the NC.S-E-C

El Mudo

01-08-2007, 09:03 PM

A really really awesome season  I can't wait until next year....a Florida team returning most of its starters, more Arkansas, a loaded Southern Cal, Saban at Bama, Jimbo Fisher at FSU, a loaded Maryland team beginning the Josh Portis era....  I wish it was August now....

Fezticle98

01-08-2007, 09:25 PM

Worst national championship team ever? Let the debate begin.At least the Big Ten will be forced to shut up and bow down to a superior football conference and region.

El Mudo

01-08-2007, 09:58 PM

fezticle98 wrote: Worst national championship team ever? Let the debate begin.At least the Big Ten will be forced to shut up and bow down to a superior football conference and region. I would say that Southern Cal team a few years ago that beat Oklahoma....if only because they unfortunately ducked an undefeated SEC team....maybe the Clarett Ohio State team that beat Miami with the awful PI call?  Possibly 87 Penn State? I think those are all worthy candidates  That Auburn issue gets more mind boggling every single year as I think back on it...it shoud be written into the bylaws that an undefeated SEC team should be guaranteed a spot in the title game....that's almost winning a national title in of itself

sailor

01-09-2007, 03:19 AM

so, they really did lie to us about ohio state all year (michigan too).  or was it just the fez jinx that did them in?  wasn't this eerily close to his final score prediction (in reverse)?

cougarjake13

01-09-2007, 04:40 PM

sailor wrote: so, they really did lie to us about ohio state all year (michigan too).  or was it just the fez jinx that did them in?  wasn't this eerily close to his final score prediction (in reverse)? ohio state was just a product of the systemthey started out ranked number 1 and with no losses how could they be dropped out of the top spotand if this game was played a week or 2 after the sec championship game it might have gone a different wya

JimBeam

01-11-2007, 09:20 AM

I disagree Cougar.Maybe the margin of victory would've changed but I think UF wins that game 9 of 10 times.You're right that Oh ST was a product of the system and a fact that they onmly beat an over-rated Texas team early and an over-rated Mich team late.That's it.All thye did all year.So we were lead to belive that since Oh St and Mich scored 80 points combined, against each others useless defenses, that they were the 2 best teams ?Way I see it those 2 best teams surrendered 150 points combined in their last 2 games.So if the Oh St/Mich game was a clasic doesnt that make the title game a super classic ?What was different ?Oh I remember one of the teams actually played defense and didnt allow the other team to stay in it thus allowing the broadcasters and media to make a terrible game into a " classic ".When you look back at that game there was nothing special other than 2 undefeated teams playing each other.So much for those Big 10 defenses I heard so much about a few posts back.

Freakshow

01-11-2007, 10:01 AM

Anyone who makes broad generalizations about either team after that one game is out of their gourd. How is it that Flordia's win over OSU proves so much, and the wins by the Badgers and my Lions means so little? All the same people that though OSU would win big thought Tennessee was going to pull away from PSU with that stupid 'Southern Speed.' Arkansas took Florida down to the wire, did they not? Who did Florida lose to (I really can't remember) are people considering that for the tittle? Boise State only beat one ranked team and they got a first-place vote in the polls. 
 
I was pretty impressed by Florida, actually. I still think OSU wins 6 out of 10 times. Getting down by a couple of scores early was the worst thing that could happen to the Buckeyes. Their defense played ok, not great (it was 9 new starters from last year, maybe they were playing over their head all year?) They needed to run the ball more, and the one drive where they did, they scored their only offensive touchdown. The game was pretty much the fourth down and I didn't even watch after that cause I knew it was over. 
 
You really have to ignore Michigan in bowl games. The only reason you don't hear about their futility is because Notre Dame is worse. There is a joke in the Big Ten about the Wolverines "How is Michigan like weed? They both get smoked in bowls." I thought I was paying attention to things this year, but I really can't fathom how Purdue even made a bowl this year. I believe they lost 5 straight games at one point. They played about like the should against a team that was a few plays from the ACC title game (i.e. badly). Anyone who tries to make anything out of the game is delusional. 
 

Hey Jim Beam. Only cheering for Florida when Tebow was in the game? What do you think of JeMarcus Russell? I bet you think he's going to be a bust as a pro.

This message was edited by Freakshow on 1-11-07 @ 2:02 PM

El Mudo

01-11-2007, 10:11 AM

Freakshow wrote: Anyone who makes broad generalizations about either team after that one game is out of their gourd. How is it that Flordia's win over OSU proves so much, and the wins by the Badgers and my Lions means so little? All the same people that though OSU would win big thought Tennessee was going to pull away from PSU with that stupid 'Southern Speed.' Arkansas took Florida down to the wire, did they not? Who did Florida lose to (I really can't remember) are people considering that for the tittle? Boise State only beat one ranked team and they got a first-place vote in the polls. I was pretty impressed by Florida, actually. I still think OSU wins 6 out of 10 times. Getting down by a couple of scores early was the worst thing that could happen to the Buckeyes. Their defense played ok, not great (it was 9 new starters from last year, maybe they were playing over their head all year?) They needed to run the ball more, and the one drive where they did, they scored their only offensive touchdown. The game was pretty much the fourth down and I didn't even watch after that cause I knew it was over. You really have to ignore Michigan in bowl games. The only reason you don't hear about their futility is because Notre Dame is worse. There is a joke in the Big Ten about the Wolverines "How is Michigan like weed? They both get smoked in bowls." I thought I was paying attention to things this year, but I really can't fathom how Purdue even made a bowl this year. I believe they lost 5 straight games at one point. They played about like the should against a team that was a few plays from the ACC title game (i.e. badly). Anyone who tries to make anything out of the game is delusional. Hey Jim Beam. Only cheering for Florida when Tebow was in the game? What do you think of JeMarcus Russell? I bet you think he's going to be a bust as a pro. This message was edited by Freakshow on 1-11-07 @ 2:02 PM Florida lost to Auburn on The Plains...27-17

JimBeam

01-11-2007, 10:28 AM

Florida's only loss was to another bowl team and that was on a shitty call by the refs.I dont even care that it was UF that beat Oh St because I knew that any team that played them would beath them.Whether it had been USC or UF.Take as much consideration as you want on Penn St's win againt Tenn but please dont forget the beating they received at the hands of a terribly over-rated ND team ( who by the way is the team I pull for ).And as I said previoulsy it was good for Wisconsin to finally beat a team ranked in the top 35.

El Mudo

01-11-2007, 12:37 PM

Recruiting time!  The Zooker's doing a real good job of getting recruits to come to Illinois (like the District's Aurrellious Benn), but can he actually win with them this time?  I know he tried to bring the disaster that was Melvin Aleaze up there last year, but that didn't pan out too well.  That's a program that has a good history, I don't know why it hasn't been better recently. I'm liking UMD's recruits so far...but the big catch would be Marvin Austin out of Ballou in the District....I wish he would hurry up and choose a freakin' school already (its between us and Southern Cal, and a couple other schools) Rutgers is already showing signs of profiting from the Schiano Era...at the All-American game, the top O-Lineman in the country committed there over Ohio State and Southern Cal

JimBeam

01-11-2007, 12:42 PM

I got some details from a buddy of mine down in Baton Rouge about some shadey stuff that supposedly happened in the days leading up to the Sugar Bowl.Some kinda player selling items to a booster from another school.Just heresay as far as I can tell now but I'll pas on anything I hear once it's somewhat confirmed.

cougarjake13

01-11-2007, 04:16 PM

JimBeam wrote: I disagree Cougar.Maybe the margin of victory would've changed but I think UF wins that game 9 of 10 times.You're right that Oh ST was a product of the system and a fact that they onmly beat an over-rated Texas team early and an over-rated Mich team late.That's it.All thye did all year.So we were lead to belive that since Oh St and Mich scored 80 points combined, against each others useless defenses, that they were the 2 best teams ?Way I see it those 2 best teams surrendered 150 points combined in their last 2 games.So if the Oh St/Mich game was a clasic doesnt that make the title game a super classic ?What was different ?Oh I remember one of the teams actually played defense and didnt allow the other team to stay in it thus allowing the broadcasters and media to make a terrible game into a " classic ".When you look back at that game there was nothing special other than 2 undefeated teams playing each other.So much for those Big 10 defenses I heard so much about a few posts back. i wasnt saying that ohio state would necessarily win the game, just that it would have been definitely closerim also surprised i havent heard much about ohio state fans saying if we didnt lose ginn early we would had a better chanceand for the 2nd half of your post, a early or mid season ranking would be better than a pre season oneand i havent looked into hardcore but arent most early games on the schedule cupcake games, therefore meaningless in the polls and basically keeping the teams where ever they are ranked in the pre season polls

JimBeam

01-12-2007, 02:11 PM

Most schools play their big non-conference games early.Oh St/TexasArk/USCCal/TennWhile the SEC is tough some of their better teams do take the low road and schedule some lame non-conference opponents.Like UF, LSU and Auburn didnt really play anybody this year.While Ark, Tenn, and Vandy did play big schools.

Freakshow

01-13-2007, 01:09 PM

<hr color="cococo" align="left">JimBeam wrote: Florida's only loss was to another bowl team and that was on a shitty call by the refs.I dont even care that it was UF that beat Oh St because I knew that any team that played them would beath them.Whether it had been USC or UF.Take as much consideration as you want on Penn St's win againt Tenn but please dont forget the beating they received at the hands of a terribly over-rated ND team ( who by the way is the team I pull for ).And as I said previoulsy it was good for Wisconsin to finally beat a team ranked in the top 35.ÿÿ<hr color="cococo" align="left">

I do remember, believe me I remember. And you should remember they play at Happy Valley the second game this year, and ND will be breaking in a Freshman QB (although he'll be older than most Juniors playing in the game). Plus your RB just declared for the NFL draft.

Actually the thing I remember most is that cocky bastard of a coach running a fake punt while up by double-digits at home, against a team that had shown no ability to score at all. A just laughed a little when they ran a fake punt in the and bowl and it didn't work.

How come you didn't answer my questions about black quartebacks???

This message was edited by Freakshow on 1-13-07 @ 5:10 PM

Freakshow

01-13-2007, 01:18 PM

Also Wisconsin beat Penn State, who never dropped below 35 in the rankings.

JimBeam

01-13-2007, 01:24 PM

I didnt really get your question but I will tell you that I dont think Russell will be a great QB.His accuarcy is for the pitts. The WRs he hit against ND were wide open ( as all WRs, well except Penn St's, were this year ).I doubt Leak has a chance at a successful NFL career either.You think Troy Smith will be the good NFL QB that some thought he'd be when he won the H-man ?BCS game told a different story.

Freakshow

01-13-2007, 01:45 PM

I remember having this same conversation last year with you about Vince Young. A 167 passer rating says otherwise about Russell. Should I put some serious cash on him being Rookie of the year next year.

I never thought Troy Smith was a first-rounder (but did deserve the Heisman), but he did have some seriously sick plays. <a target='blank' href=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnjgP5gyHUU>This one pretty much won the game versus PSU this year.</a>

JimBeam

01-14-2007, 08:53 AM

If you're gonna count Vince Young's one year, partial year, as the establishment that you've won that argument then I cant say anything.Lets see how he does a 2nd time through the league.Vick was beating teams at one point too. Now he's got himself an unproven college coach.

sailor

01-14-2007, 09:20 AM

JimBeam wrote: If you're gonna count Vince Young's one year, partial year, as the establishment that you've won that argument then I cant say anything.Lets see how he does a 2nd time through the league.Vick was beating teams at one point too. Now he's got himself an unproven college coach.  vick has a cannon arm, with no accuracy.  young throws like a girl, but he is accurate.  russell (from the one game i saw of him) looks to have an accurate cannon.  i was all hyped up on the raiders getting quinn, but now i don't know.

cougarjake13

01-14-2007, 09:57 AM

sailor wrote: JimBeam wrote: If you're gonna count Vince Young's one year, partial year, as the establishment that you've won that argument then I cant say anything.Lets see how he does a 2nd time through the league.Vick was beating teams at one point too. Now he's got himself an unproven college coach.  vick has a cannon arm, with no accuracy.  young throws like a girl, but he is accurate.  russell (from the one game i saw of him) looks to have an accurate cannon.  i was all hyped up on the raiders getting quinn, but now i don't know. i predict both will be busts

cougarjake13

01-15-2007, 10:22 AM

ohio state's pittman and ginn declare for the nfl draft<a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6370674">http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6370674</a>ginn's injury might hurt his stock especially since he might not be able to participate in the combine  adrian peterson is still undecided<a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6359934">http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6359934</a> brian brohm returning to louisville, but with petrino leaving why stick around for one more year and have to learn a whole new offense, then get drafted and learn another new one<a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6370448">http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6370448</a>

JimBeam

01-15-2007, 03:08 PM

And now Peterson is no longer undecided :<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2732041" target="_blank" title="Peterson Declares For Draft">http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2732041</a>

JimBeam

01-16-2007, 10:45 AM

This has been mentioned before and would make sense ( even if it does put the screws to ND ) :<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=2732605" target="_blank">http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=2732605</a>

El Mudo

01-16-2007, 11:12 AM

JimBeam wrote: This has been mentioned before and would make sense ( even if it does put the screws to ND ) :<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=2732605" target="_blank">http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=2732605</a>  They already have "conference playoffs"...  Its called the regular season...and the conference winners are the ones who go to the the BCS games already, except in the cases of the at-larges

JimBeam

01-16-2007, 11:16 AM

But this would make sure that a team, like Mich this year, that didn't win its conference, can't be considered for the BCS title.Would've prevented OK from playing against LSU a few years ago.Wouldnt have done anything for Auburn as USC, Texas and Auburn all won their conferences.

JimBeam

01-21-2007, 09:43 AM

More talk about the " Plus 1 " game.He makes the same point I've been making in how would it have been fair for Texas to have had to play anybody else after beating an undefeated USC team ?And who would UF have played this year ?An LSU team they've already beaten ?A 2 loss USC team ?An undfeated, but unchallanged in all but 1 game, Boise St team ?So UF plays Boise, beats them handily as they probably would, then what ?We knew that was gonna happen.While it's great that Bosie went undefeated ( something thats very hard to do ) and they won a BCS game in very dramatic fashion the reality is they would be given a shot at playing the real champ after skating through a weak season.<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=maisel_ivan&id=2734911" target="_blank">http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=maisel_ivan&id=2734911</a>

El Mudo

01-25-2007, 08:33 AM

Next year's schedules have been released...here's Maryland's<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" id="schedtable"><tbody><tr id="741648" valign="top" bgcolor="#f1f1f1"><td class="row-text">09/01/07</td> <td class="row-text">vs. Villanova</td> <td class="row-text">College Park, Md.</td> <td class="row-text">TBA</td> </tr> <tr id="741649" valign="top" bgcolor="#d1d1d1"> <td class="row-text">09/08/07</td> <td class="row-text">at Florida International</td> <td class="row-text">Miami, Fla.</td> <td class="row-text">TBA</td> </tr> <tr id="741650" valign="top" bgcolor="#f1f1f1"> <td class="row-text">09/13/07</td> <td class="row-text">vs. West Virginia <img src="http://graphics.fansonly.com/graphics/teams/icons/media-icon-tv.gif" border="0" alt="TV" /></td> <td class="row-text">College Park, Md.</td> <td class="row-text">TBA</td> </tr> <tr id="741653" valign="top" bgcolor="#d1d1d1"> <td class="row-text">09/22/07</td> <td class="row-text">at Wake Forest </td> <td class="row-text">Winston-Salem, N.C.</td> <td class="row-text">TBA</td> </tr> <tr id="741656" valign="top" bgcolor="#f1f1f1"> <td class="row-text">09/29/07</td> <td class="row-text">at Rutgers</td> <td class="row-text">Piscataway, N.J.</td> <td class="row-text">TBA</td> </tr> <tr id="741705" valign="top" bgcolor="#d1d1d1"> <td class="row-text">10/06/07</td> <td class="row-text">vs. Georgia Tech </td> <td class="row-text">College Park, Md.</td> <td class="row-text">TBA</td> </tr> <tr id="741708" valign="top" bgcolor="#f1f1f1"> <td class="row-text">10/20/07</td> <td class="row-text">vs. Virginia </td> <td class="row-text">College Park, Md.</td> <td class="row-text">TBA</td> </tr> <tr id="741712" valign="top" bgcolor="#d1d1d1"> <td class="row-text">10/27/07</td> <td class="row-text">vs. Clemson </td> <td class="row-text">College Park, Md.</td> <td class="row-text">TBA</td> </tr> <tr id="741714" valign="top" bgcolor="#f1f1f1"> <td class="row-text">11/03/07</td> <td class="row-text">at North Carolina </td> <td class="row-text">Chapel Hill, N.C.</td> <td class="row-text">TBA</td> </tr> <tr id="741717" valign="top" bgcolor="#d1d1d1"> <td class="row-text">11/10/07</td> <td class="row-text">vs. Boston College </td> <td class="row-text">College Park, Md.</td> <td class="row-text">TBA</td> </tr> <tr id="741722" valign="top" bgcolor="#f1f1f1"> <td class="row-text">11/17/07</td> <td class="row-text">at Florida State </td> <td class="row-text">Tallahassee, Fla.</td> <td class="row-text">TBA</td> </tr> <tr id="741727" valign="top" bgcolor="#d1d1d1"> <td class="row-text">11/24/07</td> <td class="row-text">at North Carolina State </td> <td class="row-text">Raleigh, N.C.</td> <td class="row-text">TBA</td></tr></tbody></table>   It should be REAL in

Freakshow

01-25-2007, 10:26 AM

<a target='blank' href=http://www.kfmb.com/sports/story.php?id=78277>another year, another reggie bush scandal</a>

cougarjake13

01-26-2007, 01:45 PM

Freakshow wrote: <a href="http://www.kfmb.com/sports/story.php?id=78277" target="blank">another year, another reggie bush scandal</a> i wonder if they'll take away usc's championships if they can prove that it happened while he was therethey'll definitely take the heisman

johnniewalker

02-06-2007, 05:38 PM

Signing day is coming up tomorrows! Not too many surprises with Florida ranked up top at rivals and ESPN.Rivals.com has 1. Florida 2. Tennessee 3. Texas 4. LSU 5. Southern Cal. ESPN has 1. Florida 2. USC. 3. Texas 4. South Carolina 5. Notre Dame One of the bigger surprises was Ron Zook at Illinois having the top Big Ten class on espn and the third best on rivals. Not too sure how he pulled that off. Should be interesting going into tomorrow. Yahoo had a little story on the SEC recriuiting.  <a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=ApA8GCUfzIJkg9oewO1rCTscvrYF?slug=rivals-95881&prov=rivals&type=story_recruiting">SEC blitz</a>  

This message was edited by johnniewalker on 2-6-07 @ 9:41 PM

El Mudo

02-07-2007, 08:07 AM

johnniewalker wrote: Signing day is coming up tomorrows! Not too many surprises with Florida ranked up top at rivals and ESPN.Rivals.com has 1. Florida 2. Tennessee 3. Texas 4. LSU 5. Southern Cal. ESPN has 1. Florida 2. USC. 3. Texas 4. South Carolina 5. Notre Dame One of the bigger surprises was Ron Zook at Illinois having the top Big Ten class on espn and the third best on rivals. Not too sure how he pulled that off. Should be interesting going into tomorrow. Yahoo had a little story on the SEC recriuiting. <a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=ApA8GCUfzIJkg9oewO1rCTscvrYF?slug=rivals-95881&prov=rivals&type=story_recruiting">SEC blitz</a>   This message was edited by johnniewalker on 2-6-07 @ 9:41 PM Its not really a surprise...Zook's always been one of the best recruiters in the country, whether it was for Spurrier in the 90s, or Urban Meyer's kids that just won the title (most of those kids were recruited by Zook like Derrick Harvey and Chris Leak).  Plus, his O-Coordinator, Mike Locksley, is a really really good recruiter too, especially in this area (MD and DC, he got guys like Shawne Merriman and EJ Henderson and Keon Lattimore etc to MD), which is why they got Aurrelious Benn, one of the best WRs in the nation.  Zook's problem was that he just wasn't a very good coach....or they were really really really impatient at Florida (most of the kids were really upset when he was fired)  It doesn't look like my Terps are going to get Marvin Austin...but he's supposed to announce live today where he's going...its either going to be UNC or Florida State

El Mudo

02-07-2007, 11:02 AM

Grr...looks like Marvin Austin is headed to Carolina....dammit! The Top 3 on ESPN's 150 list are all going to Southern Cal...the number 1 guy is Joe McKnight...a running back out of Louisiana

PhishHead

02-07-2007, 11:09 AM

El Mudo wrote: Grr...looks like Marvin Austin is headed to Carolina....dammit! The Top 3 on ESPN's 150 list are all going to Southern Cal...the number 1 guy is Joe McKnight...a running back out of Louisiana  mcknight is good but i think he might be a little overrated. I do not think he will be as good as they think, i have seen alot of his videos and he doesnt excite me as much as RB's from past years...this class actually seemed very low on good RB's. WR's were the best they have been in a long time between Tate, Benn, Kamara, Little, Johnson, Tolliver, Bento, Thompson, and so forth just alot of amazing receivers with great hands, speed and height.

El Mudo

02-07-2007, 01:36 PM

PhishHead wrote: El Mudo wrote: Grr...looks like Marvin Austin is headed to Carolina....dammit! The Top 3 on ESPN's 150 list are all going to Southern Cal...the number 1 guy is Joe McKnight...a running back out of Louisiana mcknight is good but i think he might be a little overrated. I do not think he will be as good as they think, i have seen alot of his videos and he doesnt excite me as much as RB's from past years...this class actually seemed very low on good RB's. WR's were the best they have been in a long time between Tate, Benn, Kamara, Little, Johnson, Tolliver, Bento, Thompson, and so forth just alot of amazing receivers with great hands, speed and height.   Great recievers all....and the next big thing...Jimmy Clausen, headed to ND

PhishHead

02-07-2007, 02:05 PM

El Mudo wrote: PhishHead wrote: El Mudo wrote: Grr...looks like Marvin Austin is headed to Carolina....dammit! The Top 3 on ESPN's 150 list are all going to Southern Cal...the number 1 guy is Joe McKnight...a running back out of Louisiana mcknight is good but i think he might be a little overrated. I do not think he will be as good as they think, i have seen alot of his videos and he doesnt excite me as much as RB's from past years...this class actually seemed very low on good RB's. WR's were the best they have been in a long time between Tate, Benn, Kamara, Little, Johnson, Tolliver, Bento, Thompson, and so forth just alot of amazing receivers with great hands, speed and height. Great recievers all....and the next big thing...Jimmy Clausen, headed to ND   hopefully the next big thing and not another Ron Powlus.

JimBeam

02-07-2007, 03:24 PM

Recruiting is exciting to think about but I've been so disappointed in what I've heard compared to what I've seen too many times now to put much stock in it.Hopefully Clausen will be good.I havent looked at any of the other signings.

El Mudo

02-09-2007, 06:57 PM

<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/news/story?id=2759774">SC can't get away from Reggie Bush...and it may cost them Joe McKnight...</a>  LOS ANGELES -- The University of Southern California is looking into whether it may have violated NCAA recruiting rules while pursuing highly rated recruit Joe McKnight, a university official said. McKnight signed a national letter of intent with USC on Wednesday and made comments during a news conference that seemed to suggest communications involving former Trojan Reggie Bush, who is now with the New Orleans Saints. Former players are forbidden from telephoning prospective recruits, their relatives or guardians. "We're aware of it, and we are looking into it," sports information director Tim Tessalone told The Associated Press late Thursday.

johnniewalker

02-09-2007, 07:08 PM

El Mudo wrote: <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/news/story?id=2759774">SC can't get away from Reggie Bush...and it may cost them Joe McKnight...</a>  LOS ANGELES -- The University of Southern California is looking into whether it may have violated NCAA recruiting rules while pursuing highly rated recruit Joe McKnight, a university official said. McKnight signed a national letter of intent with USC on Wednesday and made comments during a news conference that seemed to suggest communications involving former Trojan Reggie Bush, who is now with the New Orleans Saints. Former players are forbidden from telephoning prospective recruits, their relatives or guardians. "We're aware of it, and we are looking into it," sports information director Tim Tessalone told The Associated Press late Thursday.  I wonder what happens to Mcknight if they find a violation.  I assume nothing to him,  probably just gets to sign with someone else.  Here is a list of his prospective colleges.    <table border="0" cellspacing="0" class="collegechoices"><tbody><tr><td width="160"><a href="http://alabama.rivals.com/commitlist.asp?Year=2007&School=2&Sport=1">Alabama</a></td> </tr> <tr class="gray"><td width="160"><a href="http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/commitlist.asp?Year=2007&School=6&Sport=1">Arkansas</a></td> </tr> <tr><td width="160"><a href="http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/commitlist.asp?Year=2007&School=22&Sport=1">Florida State</a></td> </tr> <tr class="gray"><td width="160"><a href="http://lsu.rivals.com/commitlist.asp?Year=2007&School=37&Sport=1">LSU</a></td> </tr> <tr><td width="160"><a href="http://www.rebelsports.net/commitlist.asp?Year=2007&School=47&Sport=1">Ole Miss</a></td> </tr> <tr class="gray"><td width="160"><a href="http://notredame.rivals.com/commitlist.asp?Year=2007&School=55&Sport=1">Notre Dame</a></td> </tr> <tr><td width="160"><a href="http://texas.rivals.com/commitlist.asp?Year=2007&School=81&Sport=1">Texas</a></td></tr></tbody></table>