College Football 2007!! [Archive] - Page 2

Fezticle98

11-02-2006, 07:53 PM

El Mudo wrote: It really was a Tiller-esque "Basketball on Grass" game, but it was still fun as hell to watch I gained a whole new measure of respect for Pat White...dude can flat out PLAY Slaton done for Heisman? Two really big fumbles, but that could be attributed to his mystery hand issue Fun game to watch. Not much defense, but Louisville's offense was back on track. They don't need much defense when they can put up points like that.Slaton for heisman is done. He's a soph, so he wasn't going to win it anyway, but the loss and 2 fumbles sealed it. Maybe next year.

El Mudo

11-02-2006, 07:58 PM

fezticle98 wrote: El Mudo wrote: It really was a Tiller-esque "Basketball on Grass" game, but it was still fun as hell to watch I gained a whole new measure of respect for Pat White...dude can flat out PLAY Slaton done for Heisman? Two really big fumbles, but that could be attributed to his mystery hand issue Fun
game to watch. Not much defense, but Louisville's offense was back on
track. They don't need much defense when they can put up points like
that.Slaton for heisman is done. He's a soph, so he wasn't going
to win it anyway, but the loss and 2 fumbles sealed it. Maybe next year.  I only wish Michael Bush had been able to play...he's a special, special player <blockquote />

Dudeman

11-02-2006, 08:33 PM

Bama wrote: That was a national embarassment for both programs. 1000 yards of offense? How can anyone respect the Big East after that performance?  how can the winner of the big east (now the winner of rutgers vs. louisville, probably) be considered a national champion contender.  beacuse ALL THREE TEAMS (wv, rugters, louisville) DID NOT PLAY A RANKED TEAM OUTSIDE THE CONFERENCE, there is no way to judge them to the rest of the country.  in any  decent conference they wouldn't be undefeated.

Tenbatsuzen

11-03-2006, 03:35 AM

Well, it was fun while it lasted. I'm not sure what the deal with the hand/arm thing was.  When Erin Andrews said he lost feeling in his arm, I was like, "Great, he's having a stroke." I look at it this way - both White and Slaton are Sophomores.  They'll be back next year.  Both of them got hurt, White played through it, but Slaton DID cost the Mountaineers the game.  It's a learning experience.  But I think after last night's performance, it wa Pat (Not) White's coming out party, just like Vince Young impressed a lot of people last year in the nat'l championship game.

El Mudo

11-03-2006, 04:05 AM

I'm not sure what the deal with the hand/arm
thing was.  When Erin Andrews said he lost feeling in his arm, I was
like, "Great, he's having a stroke." Those
were my thoughts exactly...I hope its not something vascular, cause the
kid sure can play, and that would extremely unfortunate Maybe its a nerve or something?

Bama

11-03-2006, 03:00 PM

I'm interested to see the Louisville-Rutgers game. If Rutgers wins there is absolutely no way they are allowed to play in the NC game. I can't imagine a scenario short of all the one loss teams losing again. Louisville is interesting though. They've got name recognition much like WV had but only they actually have a QB and a passing game. Brohm will definately play on Sundays so I think some voters will get behind them. Doesn't really matter. As long as Auburn is kept out I'm happy now.

cougarjake13

11-04-2006, 06:37 AM

Bama wrote: I'm interested to see the Louisville-Rutgers game. If Rutgers wins there is absolutely no way they are allowed to play in the NC game. I can't imagine a scenario short of all the one loss teams losing again. Louisville is interesting though. They've got name recognition much like WV had but only they actually have a QB and a passing game. Brohm will definately play on Sundays so I think some voters will get behind them. Doesn't really matter. As long as Auburn is kept out I'm happy now.what if rutgers and boise state are the only undefeated teams left ???let's say the winner of the ohio state mich game loses to someone else before that game and they both have one loss after the game ???

Dudeman

11-04-2006, 08:32 AM

rutgers is a total sham. look at their shitty schedule so far. if they had penn st.'s schedule, for example (ND, Ohio st., michigan) they would have at least 3 losses, and if penn st. had rutgers schedule, they would be undefeated. same with ucla (they play 6 of their last 7 games against teams that have been ranked in the top25, and the one not in the top 25 is oregon st., the team that just beat usc). give rutgers that schedule. 

This message was edited by Dudeman on 11-4-06 @ 12:36 PM

JimBeam

11-04-2006, 10:08 AM

I haven't seen Rutgers play but could they keep up with a team like Louisville defensively and offensively ?Let's face it if Rutgers wins out there's no chance of them playing in the title game.I myself would route for a rematch of the Mich/Oh St game before that and I don't wanna see that.The announcers on College Game Day today where saying that Texas deserves a 2nd chance at Oh St because the game wasnt as close as the score showed and their QB was a freshman.I guess they're not even considering Texas' last 2 games which they managed to win.Getting a very fortunate fumble from Nebraska when all they had to do was hold on,Having Texas Tech take a 31-21 lead and blow it.Not exactly great but maybe lucky ( and as ND's shown that helps sometimes ).

cougarjake13

11-04-2006, 12:33 PM

Dudeman wrote: rutgers is a total sham. look at their shitty schedule so far. if they had penn st.'s schedule, for example (ND, Ohio st., michigan) they would have at least 3 losses, and if penn st. had rutgers schedule, they would be undefeated. same with ucla (they play 6 of their last 7 games against teams that have been ranked in the top25, and the one not in the top 25 is oregon st., the team that just beat usc). give rutgers that schedule. This message was edited by Dudeman on 11-4-06 @ 12:36 PM well then there's no fair way to do it, not every program is going to have a comparable schedule to make things eveneven a playoff wouldnt solve anything b/c then you could just complain that they had a soft schedule to get into the playoffsits like in baseball where the yankees get to play baltimore, toronto, and the devil rays 19 times each every year, whereas teams in the central beat the shit out of each other all year b/c they have more competitive teams ( white sox, twins, indians, and at least for this year the tigers)

JimBeam

11-04-2006, 12:44 PM

Yeah so what you do is you make the Big East play teams in the PAC 10, Big 10, Big 12 and SEC.The problem is no Big East team has been able to sustain any long term winning, on a national scale, to warrant scheduling a game for 5 years from now when they could suck.Granted they did get hurt by losing BC and Miami but even before that there were never any high profile teams.I thought that WV should've joined the ACC instead of BC because it made more sense not only regionally but historically. WV had played in 2 big bowl games in the past 20 years ( against ND and against UF ).

cougarjake13

11-04-2006, 01:12 PM

JimBeam wrote: Yeah so what you do is you make the Big East play teams in the PAC 10, Big 10, Big 12 and SEC.The problem is no Big East team has been able to sustain any long term winning, on a national scale, to warrant scheduling a game for 5 years from now when they could suck.Granted they did get hurt by losing BC and Miami but even before that there were never any high profile teams.I thought that WV should've joined the ACC instead of BC because it made more sense not only regionally but historically. WV had played in 2 big bowl games in the past 20 years ( against ND and against UF ).theyd have to play too many games to include all those conferences plus their own, not possible to do in a 11 or 12 game schedule, maybe if they played a 16 game schedule like the nfl but that runs into fall semester finals so it couldnt be done unless they started earlier in the summer

Bama

11-04-2006, 01:26 PM

Tonights games suck. Guess I'll have to watch Texas-OK State.

cougarjake13

11-04-2006, 02:13 PM

Bama wrote: Tonights games suck. Guess I'll have to watch Texas-OK State.  bc vs wake forest should be a decent game

Bama

11-04-2006, 02:26 PM

That Virginia Tech-Miami game looked huge a month or so ago. Now it kind of sucks. Might look in on it.I'll probably be doing a lot of surfing. Texas-OK State, check in on OK - ATM (just to root on the Sooners), then a look or two at Ark v. South Carolina.

This message was edited by Bama on 11-4-06 @ 6:27 PM

Dudeman

11-04-2006, 02:28 PM

cougarjake13 wrote: Dudeman wrote: rutgers is a total sham. look at their shitty schedule so far. if they had penn st.'s schedule, for example (ND, Ohio st., michigan) they would have at least 3 losses, and if penn st. had rutgers schedule, they would be undefeated. same with ucla (they play 6 of their last 7 games against teams that have been ranked in the top25, and the one not in the top 25 is oregon st., the team that just beat usc). give rutgers that schedule. This message was edited by Dudeman on 11-4-06 @ 12:36 PM well then there's no fair way to do it, not every program is going to have a comparable schedule to make things eveneven a playoff wouldnt solve anything b/c then you could just complain that they had a soft schedule to get into the playoffsyeah but they are a completely isolated, self-contained conference.  that is especially an issue when it is already the weakest conference.  NOT ONE of their three non-shitty teams plays a decent/ranked team outside the conference.  all you have to do is be a non-shitty team, and you are going to have a 2 loss record at worst.

Bama

11-04-2006, 03:54 PM

Cowbell alert UT 3OSU 0 End of the first quarter

Bama

11-04-2006, 04:10 PM

4 minutes 50 seconds later...... UT 17OSU 0

FezPaul

11-04-2006, 04:11 PM

Bama wrote: Cowbell alert UT 3OSU 0 End of the first quarterPut down that cowbell.3 min 50 sec later UT 17OSU 0

FezPaul

11-04-2006, 04:12 PM

Bama wrote: 4 minutes 50 seconds later...... UT 17OSU 0Check your math <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/tongue.gif" border="0" />

Bama

11-04-2006, 04:13 PM

You're right. It was 3:50.

Bama

11-04-2006, 04:19 PM

Cowbell alertUT 17OSU 3 8:20 left in the second.

FezPaul

11-04-2006, 04:19 PM

OSU had a def TD but he overthrew him.Had to settle for 3.The eyes of Earl are upon you...

Bama

11-04-2006, 04:22 PM

I'll be shocked if Texas doesn't cover. OSU doesn't look that good.

FezPaul

11-04-2006, 04:26 PM

Uh-oh, fumble upheld.OSU's ball.

Bama

11-04-2006, 04:29 PM

OSU's QB is not good.

Bama

11-04-2006, 04:38 PM

Cowbell alertTexas 20OSU 3 less than 2 minutes to go in the half. Texas still hasn't covered.

FezPaul

11-04-2006, 04:40 PM

Didn't you hear that stat?UT has outscored OSU by 118 points in the second half over the last (blah blah) years.

johnniewalker

11-04-2006, 04:41 PM

FezPaul wrote: Didn't you hear that stat?UT has outscored OSU by 118 points in the second half over the last (blah blah) years. Trends, all the pro pickers use them.  Earl's a genius.

cougarjake13

11-04-2006, 04:48 PM

wake is up a td 14-7, so far its been a pretty decent gameand its a real barn burner in the va tech miami game, havent been watching is it more that its a defensive struggle or the offenses just suck balls ???

Bama

11-04-2006, 04:51 PM

Bama wrote: BOOMER...... SOONER!!!

Bama

11-04-2006, 04:53 PM

Getting Gameplan was the best decision I ever made. I love having a bunch of games to choose from on a night like this when there's really no big matchup.

FezPaul

11-04-2006, 04:55 PM

johnniewalker wrote: FezPaul wrote: Didn't you hear that stat?UT has outscored OSU by 118 points in the second half over the last (blah blah) years. Trends, all the pro pickers use them.  Earl's a genius. I was going throw up a picture of Mark Lawrence's magazine but photobucket is having problems.

Bama

11-04-2006, 05:06 PM

All of OSU's coaches look like they are 12 years old. 

This message was edited by Bama on 11-4-06 @ 9:06 PM

Bama

11-04-2006, 05:13 PM

There's your cover UT 23OSU 3

Bama

11-04-2006, 05:16 PM

COWBELL ALERT!!!!! UT 23OSU 10

FezPaul

11-04-2006, 05:17 PM

Bama wrote: COWBELL ALERT!!!!! UT 23OSU 10Do you think they can hear Ron screaming all over Manhattan?

Bama

11-04-2006, 05:24 PM

Now Texas has to punt. This is not looking good EDIT: Wow OSU roughs the kicker. Way to go douche.

This message was edited by Bama on 11-4-06 @ 9:25 PM

Fezticle98

11-04-2006, 05:24 PM

cougarjake13 wrote: wake is up a td 14-7, so far its been a pretty decent gameand its a real barn burner in the va tech miami game, havent been watching is it more that its a defensive struggle or the offenses just suck balls ???I'm watching the Wake game. Rooting for them not to blow it. I'd like them to roll into town 8-1 next week.As for the Miami - VaTech game, my guess is the offenses suck balls. They have in all the other games I've seen those teams play this year.

FezPaul

11-04-2006, 05:31 PM

<img title="M Law" height="179" alt="M Law" src="http://www.playbook.com/images03/fb_newsletter05.gif" width="142" border="0" /> FezPaul wrote: johnniewalker wrote: FezPaul wrote: Didn't you hear that stat?UT has outscored OSU by 118 points in the second half over the last (blah blah) years. Trends, all the pro pickers use them.  Earl's a genius. I was going throw up a picture of Mark Lawrence's magazine but photobucket is having problems.

Bama

11-04-2006, 05:31 PM

UT 30OSU 10 The streak lives

FezPaul

11-04-2006, 05:34 PM

Bama wrote: UT 30OSU 10 The streak lives<img height="241" src="http://www.antoniogenna.net/simpson/homer1.jpg" width="154" border="0" />

gene_pirate

11-04-2006, 05:38 PM

win win at his point. Earl continues his greatness or the cowbells start flying.

Bama

11-04-2006, 05:46 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOO!UT fumbles at the 1.

gene_pirate

11-04-2006, 05:49 PM

just the gods keeping ti interesting

Bama

11-04-2006, 05:51 PM

INT! Then a TD run. PERFECT UT 36OSU 10

johnniewalker

11-04-2006, 05:53 PM

This is unprecedented.   I can't believe it.  He's going to shoot the moon.

El Mudo

11-04-2006, 06:08 PM

I know I'm about 7 hours late because of dumb work... but I LOVE THIS TEAM!!!!!!!! <img width="512" height="361" border="0" src="http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/6630bd70-6092-408b-88d5-b9993e25bdc3.jpg" />  <img width="512" height="333" border="0" src="http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/1f59624d-91de-43b6-96f9-274675f7cd14.jpg" />   Just
absolutely UNBELIEVEABLE...On the road, in Clemson, a 20 POINT UNDERDOG
and they pulled it out...I'm speechless.  I can't describe how
much I love this team, they NEVER quit.  Not against WVU when they
were down big, not when they were down 21 to Goddamn Virginia, not when
Clemson goes up by two with about 2 minutes left The
dream is still alive...a win over a Miami team that quit a long time
ago next week, then a visit to Chesnut Hill and then Wake, and we're in
the ACC title game...

gene_pirate

11-04-2006, 06:09 PM

time to run out the clock. nice work Mr. Douglas.

gene_pirate

11-04-2006, 06:13 PM

start taking a knee, its over. Mr Perfect lives on

Bama

11-04-2006, 07:04 PM

HOKIE HOKIE HIGH VPISuck it Canes.This VT-Miami game is pretty good.

El Mudo

11-04-2006, 07:20 PM

Bama wrote: HOKIE HOKIE HIGH VPISuck it Canes.This VT-Miami game is pretty good.   We get Miami next week...I'll be there in person <blockquote />

Bama

11-04-2006, 07:26 PM

AND DOWN GOES FRAN.

Fezticle98

11-04-2006, 08:15 PM

El Mudo wrote:  Bama wrote: HOKIE HOKIE HIGH VPISuck it Canes.This VT-Miami game is pretty good. We get Miami next week...I'll be there in person  Go Terps! Although a Miami loss will surely mean the Canes (not FSU) will end up in the coveted MPC Computers Bowl in Boise.I can't believe I'm saying this, but my team is playing the spoiler role next weekend against Wake Forest!

JimBeam

11-05-2006, 09:37 AM

Bama did I miss it on here or how have you avoided the necessary mocking that comes with a loss to Sly Croom and the Miss St Bulldogs ?Losers of 18 straight games to West Division teams and losers of 27 ( I think ) straight SEC road games.I think we've now seen a what a paper tiger UGA was with a loss to Vandy and Kentucky in the same year for the first time in forever.Oh and nice almost win by vandy and nice giving it away loss by Tenn.

Bama

11-05-2006, 11:29 AM

JimBeam wrote: Bama did I miss it on here or how have you avoided the necessary mocking that comes with a loss to Sly Croom and the Miss St Bulldogs ?Losers of 18 straight games to West Division teams and losers of 27 ( I think ) straight SEC road games.I think we've now seen a what a paper tiger UGA was with a loss to Vandy and Kentucky in the same year for the first time in forever.Oh and nice almost win by vandy and nice giving it away loss by Tenn.Do your worst. Bama never beat MS state the whole time I was there as an undergrad. I don't think they beat anybody back then. They did beat them during my law school years though, so that was sweet.

JimBeam

11-05-2006, 11:36 AM

When where you an undergrad ?

El Mudo

11-05-2006, 01:21 PM

Sounds like the Mike DuBose Era...

El Mudo

11-05-2006, 01:23 PM

Speaking of DuBose...he's now the head coach of that national powerhouse Millsaps College Wow...and he lost a testicle in a game against Tennesseee in 1972...interesting...

Bama

11-05-2006, 02:21 PM

Yeah, Mike "fucking" DuBose. Late 90's. Coach Stallings lost to MSU in his last year too. That was the loss that got him fired. You hear that Shula??

This message was edited by Bama on 11-5-06 @ 6:22 PM

Tenbatsuzen

11-08-2006, 06:57 AM

Over/Under on the Miami Hurricanes murder being turned into a Law and Order epsiode?

cougarjake13

11-08-2006, 04:14 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Over/Under on the Miami Hurricanes murder being turned into a Law and Order epsiode? i was thinking csi: miami but that could work too

JimBeam

11-09-2006, 10:21 AM

This nonsense talk about not playing the game because of what happened is ridiculous.Should the school libary or bookstore close for business if one of its student workers dies ?Because he's a football player and died tragically it's different ?No because anytike somebody college aged dies its a tragedy and life truly does go on.Put on a patch, have a moment of silence and get out there.Now I know you can't blame this on Coker ( can you ?? ) but I really dislike the guy and for no other reason than that he annoys me.Plus I think he let that team run wild and never even tried, or was able to, restrain them.Not saying any actions by anybody on the team caused this latest episode to happen but it's part of a pattern.

This message was edited by JimBeam on 11-9-06 @ 2:25 PM

El Mudo

11-09-2006, 06:15 PM

I think Coker's out at the end of the year... Its
obvious his team quit on him weeks ago, and he has no more excuses
after they basically fired his entire staff last year.  He woulda been out regardless, but this just cinches the matter more.  They need a whole new culture there..

Kevin

11-09-2006, 07:09 PM

FUCK LARRY PAGIRIA HEAD COKER AND MIAMI. RUTGARS BITCHES! What a classic, and a great scene with the sea of red on the field.

johnniewalker

11-09-2006, 07:13 PM

Kevin wrote: FUCK LARRY PAGIRIA HEAD COKER AND MIAMI. RUTGARS BITCHES! What a classic, and a great scene with the sea of red on the field. Unreal, this makes the championship race crazier and crazier.

El Mudo

11-09-2006, 07:13 PM

I feel awful for that Louisville kid that jumped offside...Rutgers probably woulda won in OT anyway, but you never know

ShelleBink

11-09-2006, 07:13 PM

Kevin wrote: FUCK LARRY PAGIRIA HEAD COKER AND MIAMI. RUTGARS BITCHES! What a classic, and a great scene with the sea of red on the field.  Growin up near Piscataway and remembering years of Rutgers sucking ass... I'm so insanely happy right now.

Kevin

11-09-2006, 07:18 PM

ShelleBink wrote:  Kevin wrote: FUCK LARRY PAGIRIA HEAD COKER AND MIAMI. RUTGARS BITCHES! What a classic, and a great scene with the sea of red on the field.   Growin up near Piscataway and remembering years of Rutgers sucking ass... I'm so insanely happy right now. Gazumtight! sorrrrrrry.... But yea this is great.

Tenbatsuzen

11-09-2006, 07:21 PM

El Mudo wrote: I feel awful for that Louisville kid that jumped offside...Rutgers probably woulda won in OT anyway, but you never know    He was also the kid who stripped the ball on the long reception and couldn't recover it.

Tenbatsuzen

11-09-2006, 07:21 PM

Liz can't sleep.

El Mudo

11-09-2006, 07:23 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Liz can't sleep.   I can't wait till that West Virginia/Rutgers game December 2....just for the board battles on here <blockquote />

Tenbatsuzen

11-09-2006, 07:28 PM

El Mudo wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: Liz can't sleep. I can't wait till that West Virginia/Rutgers game December 2....just for the board battles on here    One game at a time.  Rutgers still has to play Cincy and 'Cuse. <blockquote />

LordJezo

11-10-2006, 03:25 AM

NEW YORK, N.Y. - With the national college football world converging on the Rutgers campus in anticipation of Thursday's showdown between the 14th-ranked
Scarlet Knights and No. 3 Louisville, the rush of excitement and
"Scarlet Fever" has reached the Empire State Building as one of the
world's most famous office buildings. The Building's iconic tower will
be lit  in "Scarlet" Thursday evening.
Rutgers is 8-0 and ranked 14th nationally, its highest ranking in school history. The Scarlet Knights are off to their best start in 30 years and ranked 13th in the BCS Standings.
The Empire State Building's tower lights are  frequently referenced
by line-of-sight residents in neighboring New York, New Jersey and
Connecticut.
The Empire State Building has 103 floors and has a total height of 1,454 feet. <img border="0" src="http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1219/empireyw6.jpg" />

El Mudo

11-10-2006, 04:08 AM

Even though they won't make the title game (even if they win out), its still a nice story in a year with a LOT of negative ones

Tenbatsuzen

11-10-2006, 06:48 AM

<img height="348" src="http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/c31c3f24-4cc0-4680-a875-d81717f9b2eb.jpg" width="512" border="0" /> The overhead shots from last night were spectacular. I've always thought Schiano was a bit of a robot, but all of his guards were let down at the end of the game... the shot of him pointing to the sky and thanking someone was just awesome.  Bravo.

AppleBoy

11-10-2006, 07:16 AM

Rutgers at 9-0 is a sign of the Apocalypse.Lee Corso will be speaking in tongues tomorrow.

pennington

11-10-2006, 08:39 AM

ShelleBink wrote: Growin up near Piscataway and remembering years of Rutgers sucking ass... I'm so insanely happy right now. I was at that game. Helicopters, press from around the country, scouts from 15 NFL teams, reps from all the bowls, dozens of top prospects who have offers from good schools, a genuinely enthusiastic crowd. This has never happened there.And they beat a better team. It was amazing to watch.

ShelleBink

11-10-2006, 08:49 AM

I am still kicking myself that I wasn't home last night to celebrate w/ my family and close buds.

JimBeam

11-10-2006, 11:44 AM

I could care less for either team but I was hoping Rutgers would win.Very good game.If you look at it one way Rutgers really could've ran away with it because Louisville had a few lucky/gimmicky plays.The KO return, the fake punt, the roughing the kickerOn the other hand Rutgers did get away with a pass interference ( next drive went nowhere ) and had 2 shoelace tackles when a Louisville guy was headed for the endzone.I could see Rutgers haveing a letdiwn by losing 2 if not 3 of their next 3 games.Possible to not be able to answer the emotional high.I'll be pulling for them against WV.

Bama

11-10-2006, 01:18 PM

Rutgers will lose in Morgantown.

Bama

11-11-2006, 10:55 AM

Auburn will lose in Auburn. Go dogs! SIC EM.

Bama

11-11-2006, 12:51 PM

AUBURN.......SUCKSWar pigeon.  Looks like South Carolina is going into the half with a touchdown lead over Florida at the half. Good day for underdogs.Watch out LSwho.

johnniewalker

11-11-2006, 12:56 PM

Sweet Jesus Nebraska, we need this win. Looks like 21-7 going into the half.  I'd sell my soul for a win against a ranked team.

cougarjake13

11-11-2006, 01:03 PM

Bama wrote: Looks like South Carolina is going into the half with a <strike>touchdown lead over</strike> tied with Florida at the half. Good day for underdogs.Watch out LSwho.fixed it for ya

cougarjake13

11-11-2006, 01:08 PM

im surprised el mudo hasnt posted anything yet about his terps beating the canes 14-10maybe he doesnt want to ji......nx them    oh well hopefully i didnt, i picked them to cover the spread in the pick em league

Bama

11-11-2006, 01:10 PM

cougarjake13 wrote: im surprised el mudo hasnt posted anything yet about his terps beating the canes 14-10maybe he doesnt want to ji......nx them    oh well hopefully i didnt, i picked them to cover the spread in the pick em leagueI think he's at the game.

cougarjake13

11-11-2006, 01:11 PM

Bama wrote: cougarjake13 wrote: im surprised el mudo hasnt posted anything yet about his terps beating the canes 14-10maybe he doesnt want to ji......nx them    oh well hopefully i didnt, i picked them to cover the spread in the pick em leagueI think he's at the game.that would be a good reason

Bama

11-11-2006, 01:18 PM

johnniewalker wrote: Sweet Jesus Nebraska, we need this win. Looks like 21-7 going into the half.  I'd sell my soul for a win against a ranked team. I don't want to jinx you or anything but no I'm gonna have to check in on that game now.Any beat down of ATM goes to the top of my viewing rotation

Bama

11-11-2006, 02:25 PM

Florida and Cal are both down late in the 4th quarter. Wow, this is shakeup Saturday.

Bama

11-11-2006, 03:15 PM

Bama wrote: johnniewalker wrote: Sweet Jesus Nebraska, we need this win. Looks like 21-7 going into the half.  I'd sell my soul for a win against a ranked team. I don't want to jinx you or anything but no I'm gonna have to check in on that game now.Any beat down of ATM goes to the top of my viewing rotationHaha, looks like I didn't.

Tenbatsuzen

11-11-2006, 03:32 PM

Thank you, Arizona and Georgia. Love, Rutgers and West Virginia.

FezPaul

11-11-2006, 03:35 PM

Lou Holtz needs to take the marbles out of his mouth.

Bama

11-11-2006, 03:44 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Thank you, Arizona and Georgia. Love, Rutgers and West Virginia. Why would they care?

Tenbatsuzen

11-11-2006, 03:59 PM

Bama wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: Thank you, Arizona and Georgia. Love, Rutgers and West Virginia. Why would they care?   Higher ranking for both?  Eliminating more teams from the one-loss pool?

Bama

11-11-2006, 04:02 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  Bama wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: Thank you, Arizona and Georgia. Love, Rutgers and West Virginia. Why would they care?   Higher ranking for both?  Eliminating more teams from the one-loss pool?  Michigan and Ohio State both won. There will be one undefeated team and at least one 1 loss team.

Bama

11-11-2006, 04:40 PM

Don't turn on ESPN. It's a freaking bloodbath. Definately not suitable for children.

Bama

11-11-2006, 04:43 PM

I TAKE IT BACK. OMG. BAMA IS THROWING THE BALL.ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!one!!!!!! :)

johnniewalker

11-11-2006, 04:47 PM

Bama wrote: Bama wrote: johnniewalker wrote: Sweet Jesus Nebraska, we need this win. Looks like 21-7 going into the half. I'd sell my soul for a win against a ranked team. I don't want to jinx you or anything but no I'm gonna have to check in on that game now.Any beat down of ATM goes to the top of my viewing rotationHaha, looks like I didn't.  It came down to the bitter end.  Unbelievable.  I'll take a Big 12 North division title even if its this ugly.  I will be in appearance at the Neb.-Col. game in Lincoln to watch the beat down of the 2-9 Buffaloes.  I hate Colorado!

johnniewalker

11-11-2006, 04:49 PM

Bama wrote: I TAKE IT BACK. OMG. BAMA IS THROWING THE BALL.ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!one!!!!!! :) There's a bloodbath on the deuce though,  I was watching Arkansas handing it to Tennesee.

Bama

11-11-2006, 04:54 PM

ALABAMA IS TAKING IT TO LSU! OMG!!! ONSIDE KICK RECOVEREDI LOVE COLLEGE FOOTBALL!!!!!!!

El Mudo

11-11-2006, 05:07 PM

We took out Miami today....fabulous... my head hurts from the noise, i can't really talk cause i shouted myself hoarse, but i couldn't be happier right now  Now if FSU would stop dicking around and PLEASE beat Wake Forest....

johnniewalker

11-11-2006, 05:10 PM

El Mudo wrote: We took out Miami today....fabulous... my head hurts from the noise, i can't really talk cause i shouted myself hoarse, but i couldn't be happier right now Now if FSU would stop dicking around and PLEASE beat Wake Forest....  Congrats on the win.  I'm happy to see Miami sink into mediocrity after what they did to my boy Eric Crouch after he won the heisman.  I hate Miami. I

El Mudo

11-11-2006, 05:35 PM

Unfortunately, FSU is now getting taken behind the woodshed by Wake
Forest....Wake Goddamn Forest! WHY CAN'T ANYONE BEAT WAKE
FOREST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! ITS WAKE
FOREST! Grrrrrr........<img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/furious.gif" />

Bama

11-11-2006, 05:40 PM

Texas is losing at the half.

Bama

11-11-2006, 06:41 PM

Texas 28KSU 42 3 minutes left in the third

This message was edited by Bama on 11-12-06 @ 2:17 PM

RLC44

11-11-2006, 06:45 PM

I freaked my cats out screaming after the hit on the punt. Holy crap, whatta run our boys are having.And seriously, WHAT THE F!?! When did Wake become FSU and FSU become Duke (or Wake for that matter)?

El Mudo

11-12-2006, 07:36 AM

It really has been a wacky year.... The college football world is truly on its ass

Tenbatsuzen

11-12-2006, 08:02 AM

Bama wrote: Texas 42KSU 28 3 minutes left in the third   Uh, what?

Bama

11-12-2006, 10:16 AM

um, yeah, I meant the opposite.

JimBeam

11-12-2006, 11:59 AM

I think there were 3 shut outs in the ACC yesterday ( well one was non-conference )Ga Tech, Wake and Va Tech.I'm glad to see Ark got a boost with all those losses.I am pissed that Texas didnt fall further losing to an unranked team.Had FLA lost it would've really helped ND.ND still has a good shot at playing for the title now if they beat USC.If Oh St loses they better drop them further than #2 or #3.Do that same shit they did with FSU after ND beat them in 1993.Hoping to get a rematch.

El Mudo

11-12-2006, 01:17 PM

As bad as the ACC has been this year, how wacky is this: 

Four Atlantic Coast Conference teams hold the next four spots,
starting with No. 18 Georgia Tech, the Coastal Division champ.
Virginia Tech is 19th, followed by Boston College and Maryland,
which is tied with Wake Forest for the lead in the Atlantic
Division. The ACC has six ranked teams, the most of any conference.

JimBeam

11-12-2006, 01:21 PM

You wouldnt think that too funny if the ranked teams included FSU, Miami, Va Tech, BC, and Ga Tech.The fact that Maryland and Wake Forest are in there is something thats new.

El Mudo

11-12-2006, 04:45 PM

The fact that Maryland and Wake Forest are in there is something thats new.


 

 Wake yes, not necessarily Maryland We
won the ACC in 2001, and since then have beaten Tennessee in the Peach
Bowl and West Virginia in the Gator Bowl...Big Ralph won 30 games in
his first 3 years here... The last two years have both been 5-6 though

Bama

11-12-2006, 04:53 PM

I'm already depressed that the season is almost over.

cougarjake13

11-12-2006, 05:50 PM

Bama wrote: I'm already depressed that the season is almost over.you'll still almost a months worth of bowl games

Fezticle98

11-13-2006, 01:09 PM

El Mudo wrote: Unfortunately, FSU is now getting taken behind the woodshed by Wake Forest....Wake Goddamn Forest! WHY CAN'T ANYONE BEAT WAKE FOREST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! ITS WAKE FOREST! Grrrrrr........<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/furious.gif" border="0" /> Did you watch the game? I think that display articulates my points re: Bobby Bowden better than anything I can say. Now the only excuse to keep him is that he built the program and we owe it to him. To do that is to accept whatever depths we will surely sink to. There is no turning it around with this coaching staff. This year Wake, next year Duke.

cougarjake13

11-13-2006, 01:21 PM

butch davis is the new head coach at north carolina<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2659982">http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2659982</a>

johnniewalker

11-13-2006, 01:42 PM

I'm so angry that they are writing why its so good for USC to be number 3.  Just because either mich or ohio state is going to lose shouldn't throw them out of the 1 or 2 spot.  USC, Notre Dame, have not looked that good all season.  Florida is the only team that should be close to this one.  People hate the BCS, but a reactionary poll system isn't too great either.   I hope they do the right thing if this is a close game. ....I just went to yahoo and saw there is an article kinda with the same point, ahh crap.

Burky

11-13-2006, 01:49 PM

Bama-What was the bet on the Bama LSU game?BurkyGeaux Tigers!

cougarjake13

11-13-2006, 02:33 PM

johnniewalker wrote: I'm so angry that they are writing why its so good for USC to be number 3.  Just because either mich or ohio state is going to lose shouldn't throw them out of the 1 or 2 spot.  USC, Notre Dame, have not looked that good all season.  Florida is the only team that should be close to this one.  People hate the BCS, but a reactionary poll system isn't too great either.   I hope they do the right thing if this is a close game. ....I just went to yahoo and saw there is an article kinda with the same point, ahh crap. the best thing to happen other then usc losing to either notre dame or cal is for mich #2 to beat ohio state #1 by a very close margin so that ohio state doesnt fall farther than #2

goreds2

11-13-2006, 06:12 PM

No OSU-Michigan game this week: Big Ten MEN'S FOOTBALL 11/18/2006 Indiana @ Purdue N/A 12:00PM ET XM 195 Buffalo @ Wisconsin N/A 12:00PM ET XM 196 Iowa @ Minnesota N/A 12:00PM ET XM 197 Michigan State @ Penn State N/A 12:00PM ET XM 198 Illinois @ Northwestern N/A 1:00PM ET XM 199 Sat., Nov. 18:     XM173 (WLW) RUTGERS @ Cincy Bearcats 12:00pm (PreGame)/12:30pm (Kick Off) ACC MEN'S FOOTBALL 11/18/2006 Miami @ Virginia N/A 12:00PM ET XM 191 N.C. State @ North Carolina N/A 12:00PM ET XM 192 Duke @ Georgia Tech N/A 1:30PM ET XM 194 W. Michigan @ Florida State N/A 2:00PM ET XM 193 PAC-10 MEN'S FOOTBALL 11/18/2006 Arizona @ Oregon N/A 3:30PM ET XM 195 Oregon State @ Stanford N/A 3:30PM ET XM 196 Washington @ Washington State N/A 7:00PM ET XM 196 California @ USC N/A 8:00PM ET XM 195 UCLA @ Arizona State N/A 10:15PM ET XM 194

El Mudo

11-13-2006, 08:06 PM

butch davis is the new head coach at north carolina<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2659982">http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2659982</a>  Just
freakin' great....its bad enough i have to deal with UNC being good in
basketball, now I have to deal with them being good in football....<img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/furious.gif" />  <img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/furious.gif" /> Within the next five years, theyll win the National Title...mark my words

JimBeam

11-13-2006, 08:42 PM

I'm still far from convinced that either Oh St or Mich are the 2 best teams in the country.Because Oh St beat a Texas team that was over-rated from day 1 ?They didnt have to play Wisc and they played terrible out of conference teams w/ the exception of Texas.Because Mich beat ND ? OK I'll give you Wisconsin as well but not much out of conference.I'll give them credit for playing an SEC team but how about picking a little higher than Vandy.For that matter it makes the Big East argument more credible by giving the impression that winning percentage is all that should be considered.If Oh St loses to Mich they wont be the second best team in the the nation unless all those other 1 loss teams ( USC or ND and FL or Ark ) some how shit the bed collectively.

iamjacks_spleen

11-14-2006, 06:04 AM

I can't imagine a more boring game than watching two Big 11 teams play for a national championship! Yawn!!!!!!!!

LOAF

11-14-2006, 06:24 AM

Does anyone agree that Notre Dame is one of the most overated teams in the nation year in and year out?? No matter how bad they are they always get a BCS bowl??I can't stand them!

goreds2

11-14-2006, 08:31 AM

THE_LOAF wrote: Does anyone agree that Notre Dame is one of the most overated teams in the nation year in and year out?? No matter how bad they are they always get a BCS bowl??I can't stand them!      PLUS, what ever money they make from a bowl game is 100% theirs.  They do not have to share with the conference teams etc.

cougarjake13

11-14-2006, 01:04 PM

espn is reporting that jeff bowden is resigning atg the end of the seasonfezticle is sure gonna be happy about this<a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6170532">http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6170532</a>

jake5098

11-14-2006, 05:44 PM

yes nd is over rated any team that plays all three military schools and doesnt play maimi or v-tech anymore is over rated.

Fezticle98

11-14-2006, 07:18 PM

cougarjake13 wrote: espn is reporting that jeff bowden is resigning atg the end of the seasonfezticle is sure gonna be happy about this<a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6170532">http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6170532</a>You are correct, sir! Step one of the many step plan back to respectability. The new O-Coordinator will bring in an (almost) entirely new offensive coaching staff.

El Mudo

11-15-2006, 04:21 AM

jake5098 wrote: yes nd is over rated any team that plays all three military schools and doesnt play maimi or v-tech anymore is over rated.    They never played VTech before... And
they still played Michigan and Georgia Tech, and they're going to play
Southern Cal...three teams which are better than pretty much any other
team played out of conference 
<blockquote />

Freakshow

11-15-2006, 05:18 AM

iamjacks_spleen wrote: ÿI can't imagine a more boring game than watching two Big 11 teams play for a national championship! Yawn!!!!!!!!

1989 checking in. Watch out for this band called Nirvana, they're really going to change music in a few years.

OSU-UM games have averaged in the 50's the last 3 years. OSU has the #8 scoring offense, averaging just over 35 points game. Michigan has the best wide reciever in the game and a 3-year starter at QB. Yeah, but the game is going to be boring.

PhishHead

11-15-2006, 05:45 AM

El Mudo wrote: jake5098 wrote: yes nd is over rated any team that plays all three military schools and doesnt play maimi or v-tech anymore is over rated. They never played VTech before... And
they still played Michigan and Georgia Tech, and they're going to play
Southern Cal...three teams which are better than pretty much any other
team played out of conference 
   ND plays the military schools because of the tradition of it.  Yea playing Miami or Vtech would have been big accomplishments this year, they both suck.  We played mich, GT, Penn State(Pstate was ranked when we played them and scheduled the game).  Like El Mudo said we still have USC @ USC nonetheless.  Name one other team that has out of conference matches like ours? No one does.  I am not saying we are not overrated, but its somewhere in between.  We are either underranked by some people or overranked by others.  The truth is somewhere in between.   <blockquote />

El Mudo

11-15-2006, 08:33 AM

Michigan has the
best wide reciever in the game and a 3-year starter at QB. . 



 

   Calvin Johnson plays for Georgia Tech, not Michigan... And Michigan lives and dies on Mike Hart...not Mario Manningham 

This message was edited by El Mudo on 11-15-06 @ 12:33 PM

LOAF

11-15-2006, 09:08 AM

El Mudo wrote: Michigan has the best wide reciever in the game and a 3-year starter at QB. .      Calvin Johnson plays for Georgia Tech, not Michigan... And Michigan lives and dies on Mike Hart...not Mario Manningham This message was edited by El Mudo on 11-15-06 @ 12:33 PM Yeah Calvin Johnson is better then either michigan wide recieverHe will go higher in the draft

El Mudo

11-15-2006, 09:26 AM

Heck, I'd even take Ted Ginn over Manningham

JimBeam

11-15-2006, 10:00 AM

I will once again say that I think ND got way too much hype this year but when its all said and done they could more than likely have played the winners of the BIg 10, The PAC10 and the ACC.They will have played and possibly beaten 2 of the 8 teams going to the BCS.Name one other team that can say that ?As far as how their scheule turned out keep in mind that these are made 5 years in advance and these teams were probably in some way good at that time.Playing Penn St, UCLA, Mich St  and UNC looked better 5 years ago.They very rarely play all 3 military schools in the same year ( in fact this is the first time in a while I rememebr them playing Air Force. The last one that comes to mind was back when Ron Powlus was there and he fumbled against them 5 times ). I cant remeber them playing any more than 2, always Navy and occasionaly Army.I said in a previous post that over the last 10 years they've played the cream of the SEC crop ( Tenn and LSU ) while teams like Michigan play Vandy.ND usually plays at least 3 Big 10 schools, usually 2 PAC 10 ones, and and ACC or Big 12 school.Sure they keep all their money because they can sell tickets whether they stink or not.ND hasnt played Miami in years. Yet they played FSU when FSU was the better team.

This message was edited by JimBeam on 11-15-06 @ 2:01 PM

LOAF

11-15-2006, 10:05 AM

Christ, why won't college football just adopt a god dam playoff system. Then the best team will be national champs! I have never heard of a freakin sport were a computer determines the champion. Its ridiculous.

JimBeam

11-15-2006, 10:14 AM

But a playoff doesnt answer the questions either.Right now if you went w/ 8 teams Rutgers would get in ( with a win against Louisville and that powerhouse known as Howard ) and LSU wouldnt ( because they have losses to Auburn and Florida ).Strenght of scheule has to be more of a factor in the decions.

PhishHead

11-15-2006, 10:24 AM

but who is say that LSU, Florida or Auburn is that good all their non conference games are easy as hell. Thats why conferences just need to be done away with.  They constrict too much.  Nothing proves anyone is better.  Ohio State is #1 yet have no quality opponents besides Texas and they havent really played anyone who has played anyone good, its like a freaking catch 22.  Look even SOS isnt a great thing because look who has the #1 SOS...Stanford...and they still play Navy, San Jose State...then a bunch of PAC 10 teams and ND.  Just because PAC 10 has the highest SOS they get rated the highest then. Conferences need to be dumped and play whoever the hell you want to. And like someone already said...Schedules are made so far in advance that is impossible to tell how good a team will be, when ND made 2006 schedule in 2001 some of those teams were good or on the move. I mean shit i already have ND schedule for 2010, and I can guarantee some of those teams wont be good anymore.

El Mudo

11-15-2006, 10:36 AM

THE_LOAF wrote: Christ,
why won't college football just adopt a god dam playoff system. Then
the best team will be national champs! I have never heard of a freakin
sport were a computer determines the champion. Its ridiculous.  We've been over this many a time... The
College Presidents won't give up the bowl money...ever....therefore,
this is the best system we're going to get, and frankly, I like it
compared to the old bowl system. 
 And like ive said before, why no fuss over the RPI in College Basketball?  We don't even know how that formula works. <blockquote />

El Mudo

11-15-2006, 10:38 AM

You can't get rid of conferences... (a) because there's too
much money involved....TV and schools look forward to big
interconference matchups every year, which is why Miami and FSU are in
different divisions in the ACC 
(b) tradtion...it'd be like getting rid of divisions in the NFL (c)
and what would stop a team from just scheduling a bunch of d-2
opponents?  What would happen to any kind of integrity in terms of
scheduling? 


This message was edited by El Mudo on 11-15-06 @ 2:39 PM

LOAF

11-15-2006, 10:39 AM

I hear ya, Its an arguement that will never go away.And as far as basketball at least they have the tournament.

PhishHead

11-15-2006, 10:44 AM

El Mudo wrote: You can't get rid of conferences... (a) because there's too
much money involved....TV and schools look forward to big
interconference matchups every year, which is why Miami and FSU are in
different divisions in the ACC 
(b) tradtion...it'd be like getting rid of divisions in the NFL (c)
and what would stop a team from just scheduling a bunch of d-2
opponents? What would happen to any kind of integrity in terms of
scheduling? 


This message was edited by El Mudo on 11-15-06 @ 2:39 PM   You would still have the interconference matchups just wouldnt be considered interconference you could still have Mich v OSU or Miami against FSU and FL against FSU, just schedule better games in regards to out of conference and in regards to the scrubs in your conference. Obvioulsy if you schedule d-2 you would be ranked lower.  Like there is any integrity now in scheduling??  Id rather see lets say USC play CAL, ND, Michigan, Ohio State, LSU, and so forth then just one of those out of conference games.

JimBeam

11-15-2006, 11:13 AM

Who says the SEC's better ?Their 28-5 Out Of Conference schedule.Jim Tressel himself said yesterday that the loser of the OSU/Mich game shouldnt be considered for a rematch/Nat'l title game because they wouldnt have even won their league which should require you to be the championIts great that he said that but as the writer pointed out lets see how he feels if OSU loses and they need to lobby to get into the BCS title game.Either way what he said was spot on.The reason USC should've played LSU a few years ago.Oklahoma didnt even win its own league so how could they be playing for the title.

Tall_James

11-15-2006, 11:15 AM

<img src="http://www.deadspin.com/assets/resources/2006/11/longhornsfan2.jpg" border="0" />I really have nothing to add to the thread.  Just this picture and the hope that Aggie will see it and be horrified.

This message was edited by Tall_James on 11-15-06 @ 3:15 PM

JimBeam

11-15-2006, 11:36 AM

PhishHead

11-15-2006, 12:11 PM

JimBeam wrote: Who says the SEC's better ?Their 28-5 Out Of Conference schedule.   I call Shenanigans! Let me list the Out of Conference games for the SEC:Cal, Air Force, Marshall, Memphis, Michigan, Tennessee State, Temple, Duke, Hawaii, Louisiana-Monroe, Duke, Florida International, USC, Utah State, South EAStern Missouri State, Washington State, Louisiana-Monroe(again), Buffalo, Tulane, Arkansas State, Louisana Lafayette, Arizona, Tulane(again), Fresno State, Memphis(again), Missouri, Wake Forest, Northwestern State, Tulane(again), UAB, WVU, Jacksonville State, UCF, South Mississippi, West Carolina, FSU, Western Kentucky, UAB(Again), Colorado, GT, Louisville, Texas State, Central Michigan, Louisiana-Monroe(again), Wofford, Florida Atlantic, Middle Tennessee, and ClemsonNow to me it looks like about 8 good games out of all of them.  I wouldnt say that makes the better conference whatsoever...and Im sure the other conferences have just as many crappy games as them.

El Mudo

11-15-2006, 12:56 PM

Firstly, I'd just like to point out the SEC is the best conference
EVERY SINGLE YEAR...if just for the environments (find me tougher
places to play than Baton Rouge, Tuscaloosa, Knoxville, The Plains,
Athens, etc.)  And if Arkansas wins out and goes undefeated in the SEC, they should be in the Title game by default Secondly 
You would still have the interconference
matchups just wouldnt be considered interconference you could still
have Mich v OSU or Miami against FSU and FL against FSU, just schedule
better games in regards to out of conference and in regards to the
scrubs in your conference. 
Obvioulsy if you schedule d-2 you would be ranked lower.  Like there is any integrity now in scheduling??  
Id
rather see lets say USC play CAL, ND, Michigan, Ohio State, LSU, and so
forth then just one of those out of conference games.  


 

 
 
You forget one of the more important aspects of scheduling smaller
schools.  They usually mean big paydays for those smaller
programs, which is the only way many of them can keep their programs
afloat, so its beneficial both ways
 
And if I didn't have to schedule anyone respectable out of
conference, why would I?  The conferences AT LEAST keep teams
honest in that regard by making them play SOME tough teams
 
And USC plays Cal and ND every year

PhishHead

11-15-2006, 03:19 PM

El Mudo wrote: Firstly, I'd just like to point out the SEC is the best conference
EVERY SINGLE YEAR...if just for the environments (find me tougher
places to play than Baton Rouge, Tuscaloosa, Knoxville, The Plains,
Athens, etc.) And if Arkansas wins out and goes undefeated in the SEC, they should be in the Title game by default Secondly   
You would still have the interconference
matchups just wouldnt be considered interconference you could still
have Mich v OSU or Miami against FSU and FL against FSU, just schedule
better games in regards to out of conference and in regards to the
scrubs in your conference. 
Obvioulsy if you schedule d-2 you would be ranked lower. Like there is any integrity now in scheduling?? 
Id
rather see lets say USC play CAL, ND, Michigan, Ohio State, LSU, and so
forth then just one of those out of conference games. 


 

   
 
You forget one of the more important aspects of scheduling smaller
schools. They usually mean big paydays for those smaller
programs, which is the only way many of them can keep their programs
afloat, so its beneficial both ways
 
And if I didn't have to schedule anyone respectable out of
conference, why would I? The conferences AT LEAST keep teams
honest in that regard by making them play SOME tough teams
 
And USC plays Cal and ND every year 
  Fuck the smaller schools go back to D2 or 1AA they aint competiting for any titles so who gives a shit...no offense to smaller school people on here, but do you really think you are going to win the NC, or a BCS bowl? Yes USC does play CAL and ND every year thats why i said just one of those out of conference games, because Cal is in conference and ND is out of conference. what im saying though is the system is flawed not the BCS or the rankings just the general scheduling system because you truly dont know how good any team is because none of them face good competition all year round. They have 3 or 4 good games and the rest are majority of crap teams.

JimBeam

11-15-2006, 08:18 PM

Another thing about the SEC is you can look at how many different teams have gone to their title game and won that game.Tenn, Auburn, LSU, Florida, Bama and UGA in the last few years.What other conference has depth like that ?Surely not the old and/or current Big East.Not the ACC.Maybe the PAC10 and Big 10 have varied a bit but not to that extent.You can say all you want about it being hypothetical but there's no way Rutgers is going through the SEC w/ 1 loss.

El Mudo

11-15-2006, 08:19 PM

Fuck the smaller schools go back to D2 or 1AA
they aint competiting for any titles so who gives a shit...no offense
to smaller school people on here, but do you really think you are going
to win the NC, or a BCS bowl?   Because
not only is that an elitist attitude, small programs don't only make
money for their program proper, but for their ENTIRE SCHOOL, which is
beneficial to everyone involvedAnd
since youre including "small" schools, why not inlude Wake Forest?
There's only 6,000 people there, and in your definition, they don't
matter  And there's a lot
of tradition at some smaller schools and programs...some things are
bigger than winning a national title... 

This message was edited by El Mudo on 11-16-06 @ 12:20 AM

Freakshow

11-16-2006, 06:15 AM

Calvin Johnson is damn good, but didn't he just get shut down by coachless North Carolina? Manningham was on pace for 18 or 20 touchdowns before he got hurt. And Calvin Johnson will definately go ahead of Manningham in the draft. Years ahead, in fact. Mario's a sophmore.

El Mudo

11-16-2006, 09:26 AM

Calvin Johnson is damn good, but didn't he just get shut down by coachless North Carolina? That's
due more to the Chan Gailey is a retard/Reggie Ball is a horrible QB
equation, which equals not enough balls thrown to Calvin Johnson

PhishHead

11-16-2006, 09:31 AM

I know some teams even rank Jeff S. higher then Calvin in the upcoming draft.  So it will really depend on who gets what picks and how they both do at the combine.

johnniewalker

11-16-2006, 10:13 AM

El Mudo wrote: Firstly, I'd just like to point out the SEC is the best conference
EVERY SINGLE YEAR...if just for the environments (find me tougher
places to play than Baton Rouge, Tuscaloosa, Knoxville, The Plains,
Athens, etc.) <hr width="100%" size="2" /> I have to say Ann Arbor, Columbus, Madison WI., Lincoln, South Bend, Happy Valley, Iowa City are all tough tough places to play. I'm partial to Madison, that place is insanely loud and loyal to the bitter end, maybe because of the drunkeness but still. Some of these places like Iowa City and Lincoln live and die with college football with no NFL teams. I was born and raised in Lincoln and its an odd experience to see the farmers mixed in with their overalls on in the crowd. If you've never been to a Wisconsin game, its wild to see the city shut completely down for the game. Not saying better or worse, but these cities are tough as hell to play in.   
 
You forget one of the more important aspects of scheduling smaller
schools. They usually mean big paydays for those smaller
programs, which is the only way many of them can keep their programs
afloat, so its beneficial both ways
 
And if I didn't have to schedule anyone respectable out of
conference, why would I? The conferences AT LEAST keep teams
honest in that regard by making them play SOME tough teams
 
And USC plays Cal and ND every year 
 I went to Wisconson and now I go to Buffalo and realize how much it sucks being a small program. They will never get a big team at home and face tough ass teams on the road. I don't know how small teams ever get out of the hole the big conferences have put them in. Its rough... 

This message was edited by johnniewalker on 11-16-06 @ 3:26 PM

JimBeam

11-16-2006, 11:04 AM

Usually the teams w/ huge followings are in areas where there's no real competition for the sports dollar.An exception is USC but you can bet that if they ever went 3-8 in consecutive years that stadium would be empty.Not the case in places like Baton Rouge, Gainesville and Ann Arbor just to name a few.

Bama

11-16-2006, 08:39 PM

The SEC has the biggest penis.It's true. Oh, it's true.

burrben

11-16-2006, 08:44 PM

the ohio bobcats - MAC East Champs - 1st time in school history they'll get to play for the MAC Championship

This message was edited by burrben on 11-17-06 @ 12:46 AM

Fezticle98

11-16-2006, 09:26 PM

burrben wrote: the ohio bobcats - MAC East Champs - 1st time in school history they'll get to play for the MAC Championship This message was edited by burrben on 11-17-06 @ 12:46 AM Think Frank Solich will show up to coach them, or will he be slumped over a steering wheel?

burrben

11-16-2006, 09:48 PM

fezticle98 wrote: burrben wrote: the ohio bobcats - MAC East Champs - 1st time in school history they'll get to play for the MAC Championship This message was edited by burrben on 11-17-06 @ 12:46 AM Think Frank Solich will show up to coach them, or will he be slumped over a steering wheel?lol

El Mudo

11-17-2006, 06:21 AM

You know.... I realize Ohio State and Michigan is a big game... But
do I really need hourly updates on how much time is left until
kickoff?  It was ridiculous when the countdown clock was at 500
hours a few weeks ago on Gameday, and it's still ridiculous when theyre
showing the countdown clock on the bottom line on ESPN 2 while I'm
trying to watch my Terrapins hammer St. Johns Just another reason as to why ESPN now sucks balls

cougarjake13

11-17-2006, 06:28 AM

El Mudo wrote: You know.... I realize Ohio State and Michigan is a big game... But do I really need hourly updates on how much time is left until kickoff?  It was ridiculous when the countdown clock was at 500 hours a few weeks ago on Gameday, and it's still ridiculous when theyre showing the countdown clock on the bottom line on ESPN 2 while I'm trying to watch my Terrapins hammer St. Johns Just another reason as to why ESPN now sucks balls just like when the yanks and sawx play each other in the reg season and the have updates for how long until the game starts and the lineups

JimBeam

11-17-2006, 07:48 AM

Even worse are the sports guys who I feel to be fairly reputable making statements like " This is the greatest regular season match up in my lifetime. "I mean neither team has a high profile player.Sure even average college football fans know about Smith and maybe Hart but its not like they are household names.I'm not even giving it much thought because I'd surely leave out games that were big on the landscape that didnt mean anything to me but I know that FSU/ND from 1993 was a much biffer game than this.It'll be a good game but not even in the best games bewtween these 2 teams in the last 10 years.Games when they had more stars might not have meant as much but had better talent.Both of these teams have many a guy from the last 10 years playing football on Sundays.Hyoe hype hype.And I can see the same thing happening if Mich wins and USC and ND face each other  with 1 loss a piece.You dont think that game's gonna be blown out of proportion ?

El Mudo

11-17-2006, 11:03 AM

Schembechler's death changes everything.... or does it? I still like Ohio State, but I wouldn't be shocked if Earl's Panthers pull it out now

JimBeam

11-18-2006, 09:33 AM

Now I heard that this is the biggest game since some Oklahoma/Nebraska matchup on Thanksgiving Day back in the 80's.I've gotta say that I think last year's USC/ND game was a much bigger draw.Chris Russo was saying that if Mich loses and ND wins out that the complaints will be that Mich played ND so they should be higher.What makes that argument ridiculous is that Mich would have just lost to Oh St so how could they argue that they should play Oh St again ?ND can say they got blasted early in the season but if Mich loses now it'll be at the height of their succes and they'd have no excuse.If Oh St loses, whether its big or not, they could be hurt if Texas loses to A&M and/or loses in the Big 12 title game.

Freakshow

11-18-2006, 09:42 AM

I don't find it that big a deal, especially since we get #1vs #2
every year now. And we will get #1 vs #2 again in 5 weeks.

El Mudo

11-18-2006, 09:44 AM

Blech...

Terps crapping the bed right now against BC...

Hopefully the second half will be better...we were down the same margin to Virginia and came back in that game

johnniewalker

11-18-2006, 09:46 AM

burrben wrote: fezticle98 wrote: burrben wrote: the ohio bobcats - MAC East Champs - 1st time in school history they'll get to play for the MAC Championship This message was edited by burrben on 11-17-06 @ 12:46 AM Think Frank Solich will show up to coach them, or will he be slumped over a steering wheel?lol I didn't think people still remembered solich.  Nice.

JimBeam

11-18-2006, 10:41 AM

So Gerry DiNardo just says that if Mich loses and ND wins out that Mich still deserves to play Oh St again ( I've already stated the lack of logic in that argument ).Then he says that he voted Ark #3 in some poll he votes in ahead of USC who he had at #4.Todd McSahe says : How can you do that when USC destroyed them ??!! "Dinardo says " That was eraly in the year "Ok so when did ND lose to Mich ? Early in the year.He also said ND will only have one qaulity win if they beat USC.I guess Ga Tech possibly going to a BCS game desont count ?DiNardo's still just mad that ND picked the blackie Willingham over him for their coaching job.

Freakshow

11-18-2006, 02:55 PM

iamjacks_spleen wrote: ÿI can't imagine a more boring game than watching two
Big 11 teams play for a national championship! Yawn!!!!!!!!

Do I get to call you a moron again? Cause if you don't think this
is one of the most exciting games you've ever seen then you
would have to check yourself for a pulse.

Bama

11-18-2006, 04:01 PM

Thank God there are 50 days for something to happen that might prevent a freaking rematch.I only saw a little of the OSU-Michigan game but it was enough.Hopefully Arkansas and Florida can win out going into the SEC championship game.

Kevin

11-18-2006, 06:25 PM

Fucking Rutgars, 30-3 to Cinci?? WTF? I guess Ronnie was right all along.

Tenbatsuzen

11-18-2006, 06:33 PM

Kevin wrote: Fucking Rutgars, 30-3 to Cinci?? WTF? I guess Ronnie was right all along. Classic trap game, through and through.  Ronnie wasn't right.  For some reason, Teel started throwing these ridiculously deep passes, which is not the norm for Rutgers' offense.  Note to Mike Teel: You're not Patrick White.

El Mudo

11-18-2006, 07:56 PM

That was what we call a "letdown" game in the case of Rutgers...happened to Louisville last week

And hows this for irony...the ONE FREAKIN TIME I need Wake Forest to win (after my beloved Terps crapped the bed in Chesnut Hill) they crap the bed against Virginia Tech...

Freakin' great...now our game with Wake is essentially meaningless, unless Miami somehow knocks off BC, which ain't gonna happen

El Mudo

11-19-2006, 07:05 AM

ESPN just reported that if Miami fires Coker, which it almost certainly will, their leading candidate to replace him is:

<img src='http://www.secsports.com/image_lib/fbc_usc_steve_spurrier_164w_112304.jpg' border=0>

Thats just what I needed...the Ol' Ball Coach at Miami...damn the ACC! Why can't it be crappy again!

This message was edited by El Mudo on 11-19-06 @ 11:05 AM

cougarjake13

11-19-2006, 07:36 AM

El Mudo wrote: ESPN just reported that if Miami fires Coker, which it almost certainly will, their leading candidate to replace him is: <img src="http://www.secsports.com/image_lib/fbc_usc_steve_spurrier_164w_112304.jpg" border="0" width="164" height="225" /> Thats just what I needed...the Ol' Ball Coach at Miami...damn the ACC! Why can't it be crappy again! This message was edited by El Mudo on 11-19-06 @ 11:05 AM whats his contract like at south carolina ???can he just leave or will he need UM to pay South carolina some money to get out of the contract ?

Fezticle98

11-19-2006, 08:01 AM

El Mudo wrote: ESPN just reported that if Miami fires Coker, which it almost certainly will, their leading candidate to replace him is: <img src="http://www.secsports.com/image_lib/fbc_usc_steve_spurrier_164w_112304.jpg" border="0" width="164" height="225" /> Thats just what I needed...the Ol' Ball Coach at Miami...damn the ACC! Why can't it be crappy again! This message was edited by El Mudo on 11-19-06 @ 11:05 AM I think I just threw up in my mouth.Oh well, such a signing would likely mean FSU domination over Miami during his tenure.

El Mudo

11-19-2006, 08:24 AM

It would definitely push the ACC into becoming one of the top conferences in the country...when you talk about coaches like Frank Beamer, Butch Davis, Ralph Friedgen, Bobby Bowden, Jim Grobe, and then you add Spurrier (potentially) to that mix?

Yikes...

This message was edited by El Mudo on 11-19-06 @ 12:25 PM

El Mudo

11-19-2006, 08:26 AM

<a target='blank' href=http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2668273>Here's the link</a>

In a move that would shake college football, South Carolina coach Steve Spurrier has been targeted as a leading candidate to succeed Larry Coker should he be dismissed as Miami head coach, a source close to the situation said Sunday.

Coker is expected to be fired after Thursday's game against Boston College.

Miami president Donna Shalala had hoped Coker could win the final two games of the season and then could argue to bring him back. But at 5-6 and with the team in danger of missing a bowl, influential trustees and boosters have begun inquiring about prospective replacements and identified Spurrier, the former Florida coach, as the top choice with the goal of making a splashy hire.

A person close to Spurrier said he is interested in the position largely because he can compete in the state of Florida against his former school and believes he could win a national championship there.

Spurrier makes about $1.3 million a year at South Carolina and has 5 years remaining on his contract. Miami would likely be able to pay him at least $500,000 a year more annually.

Fezticle98

11-19-2006, 08:33 AM

If he can win an ACC Championship at Duke, imagine what he might be capable of at Miami. If it happens, hopefully UF will start scheduling Miami annually.As much as a dislike him and his woeful coaching with the Redskins, he definitely added a lot to the FSU-UF rivalry. Put him in Miami and that may make that a bigger rivalry.

El Mudo

11-19-2006, 12:36 PM

<a target='blank' href=http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2668273>Spurrier's Denying it...</a>

El Mudo

11-19-2006, 01:31 PM

Michigan is still number 2 in the BCS.....by .007 of a point...

This will change..Michigan's done, Southern Cal still has Notre Dame and Cal-Los Angeles

Tenbatsuzen

11-19-2006, 03:07 PM

Dear Coach Schiano: Please stay in Jersey.  We need you.

El Mudo

11-23-2006, 07:28 PM

Miami just beat Boston College!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That means my Terrapins' Saturday game with Wake Forest (which I will be attending) is now straight up for the ATLANTIC DIVISION!!!!!!!!!!!YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!And if we win, I WILL be running on the field this time...look for the fat guy with glasses in the Terps skullcap hauling a hot chick around on his back (long story, but she will only go on the field with me if I carry her piggyback, she doesn't want to get trampled)I'm pumped! I just called my dad and woke him up!

cougarjake13

11-24-2006, 07:18 AM

El Mudo wrote: Michigan is still number 2 in the BCS.....by .007 of a point... This will change..Michigan's done, Southern Cal still has Notre Dame and Cal-Los Angeles isnt that unfair in a way that usc has more games and therefore if they win can move up while mich has no games ?i know it can go the other way if they lose but still it'll be like punishing mich for not scheduling an extra game or being in a conference that has a conf title game

Kevin

11-24-2006, 07:20 AM

I stopped giving a shit about Coll FB this year when a team let 42 get dropped on them in a loss and still remained the #2 team in the nation.

cougarjake13

11-24-2006, 07:29 AM

Kevin wrote: I stopped giving a shit about Coll FB this year when a team let 42 get dropped on them in a loss and still remained the #2 team in the nation. who was that ???

Kevin

11-24-2006, 07:30 AM

cougarjake13 wrote: Kevin wrote: I stopped giving a shit about Coll FB this year when a team let 42 get dropped on them in a loss and still remained the #2 team in the nation. who was that ??? Mich.

cougarjake13

11-24-2006, 07:35 AM

Kevin wrote: cougarjake13 wrote: Kevin wrote: I stopped giving a shit about Coll FB this year when a team let 42 get dropped on them in a loss and still remained the #2 team in the nation. who was that ??? Mich.oh from your post it sounded like you were talking about  something earlier in the year

cougarjake13

11-24-2006, 08:23 AM

larry coker has been fired but will coach a bowl game if invited<a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6203968">http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6203968</a> so who's the next coach gonna be ???

El Mudo

11-24-2006, 09:23 AM

The prevailing rumor is Spurrier....but he's denying it... Who knows at this point....the Michigan State job is up too, and theyve already declined on Mooch

cougarjake13

11-24-2006, 09:27 AM

do you think coker will unemployed for long ???

El Mudo

11-24-2006, 09:28 AM

As I'm reading the list of candidates or rumors for Miami it comes down to Schiano from RutgersRandy Shannon the D-CoordinatorSteve Kragthorpe from TulsaBarry AlvarezSpurrier Theyre going to really go hard after Schiano...it looks like Shannon will take the FIU job (wokka wokka) possibly...  Spurrier and Alvarez are long shots...I'm not sure Spurrier will leave USC, and why would Alvarez leave Wisconsin? He's the AD there for the love of Mary... Kragthorpe, IMO would be an EXCELLENT hire for Miami...their offense STINKS and has for the last several years, and Kragthorpe has done really well at Tulsa running a gimmicky offense, much in the same way Urban Mayer did at Bowling Green and at Utah

cougarjake13

11-24-2006, 09:35 AM

i hope schiano stays at rutgers and deosnt leave for the money but it'll be hard to refuse the big money they'll prob throw at him

El Mudo

11-24-2006, 10:52 AM

That and the Miami job is a big upgrade over the Rutgers one...better conference, better program (sorry Rutgers fans)   If you guys want a real treat, I HIGHLY suggest you tune into the Arkansas/Louisiana State game...if only to see Arkansas offense...its so much fun to watch, and they do so many neat things, its worth tuning in for that only This is why I love college football...whens the last time in the pros you saw a direct snap to the back, who turned and threw the ball for 40 yards to the back up quarterback on a post?

cougarjake13

11-24-2006, 11:03 AM

looks like A & M is going to beat texas, less than a minute to go

cougarjake13

11-24-2006, 11:08 AM

El Mudo wrote: That and the Miami job is a big upgrade over the Rutgers one...better conference, better program (sorry Rutgers fans)If you guys want a real treat, I HIGHLY suggest you tune into the Arkansas/Louisiana State game...if only to see Arkansas offense...its so much fun to watch, and they do so many neat things, its worth tuning in for that onlyThis is why I love college football...whens the last time in the pros you saw a direct snap to the back, who turned and threw the ball for 40 yards to the back up quarterback on a post? yeh i was going to say that he'll have a better chance at competing for a nat'l championship at miami but with the way they played this year they'll prob be definitely ranked going into next season, which they werent this year and still made it up to be ranked # 7 and who knows if they didnt get their asses handed to them by cincy where'd they be in the rankingsplus now maybe they'll get some nat'l exposure and better recruits will go there so you never know and maybe he doesnt want to pick up after someone else's mess but he did used to coach there so that may be a factori just like it when it's not the same 5 teams competing for the championship all the time

JimBeam

11-25-2006, 10:11 AM

I doubt Spurrier would leave South Car for Miami.He's more about making a bad program good than he is about resurrecting one.The talk the other day was that it would be Alvarez because the Miami AD job is going to be opened soon ( guy's leaving I think they said ) and he could be both the football coach and the AD. He's apparently got some connection with Shalayla too ( I think she was at Wisconsin at some point ).What I could see in some wierd way is Spurrier taking the FSU job when it becomes available in a few years.

Tenbatsuzen

11-25-2006, 10:47 AM

cougarjake13 wrote: i hope schiano stays at rutgers and deosnt leave for the money but it'll be hard to refuse the big money they'll prob throw at him   Make no mistake - Rutgers can throw money at Schiano too.  They've NEVER had a reason to invest in the football program, now they do.

JimBeam

11-25-2006, 10:49 AM

The decision for Schianno will be does he want to someday coach an elite school, in which case Miami would be a stepping stone for that, or does he want to be a legend and make his own program which he's doing at Rutgers.

Tenbatsuzen

11-25-2006, 10:50 AM

South Florida on the verge of a big upset.  However, this game really has no meaning on the Big East unless Pitt can pull off an upset as well tonight.

Tenbatsuzen

11-25-2006, 10:57 AM

JimBeam wrote: The decision for Schianno will be does he want to someday coach an elite school, in which case Miami would be a stepping stone for that, or does he want to be a legend and make his own program which he's doing at Rutgers.  You bring up a great point.  Miami, right now, is damaged goods.  They expect success, immediately, right now, make us a champion or lose your job. Rutgers, on the other hand, is building a program out of nothing, and creating excitement about college football in an area that traditionally has had NO excitement. Schiano MUST stay.  Period.

JimBeam

11-25-2006, 11:15 AM

South Fla intercepted White w/ less than 2 minutes left so it looks like they'll hold on for the win and thus assuring that West Va, even if they win the Big East, will not be going to the Rose Bowl.UF & FSU are all tied up at 14 I believe.

Mr.Pants

11-25-2006, 11:28 AM

How does that taste West Virginia?!

El Mudo

11-25-2006, 11:33 AM

Leaving for the MD game now....can't describe how pumped up I am... LET'S GO TERPS!

JimBeam

11-25-2006, 12:09 PM

It doesnt seem to have been debated much in this thread about how over-rated Mich was/is.The real #2 team in the country doesnt give up 500+ yards, including 2 runs from scrimmage of 50+ yards, and 42 points whether they are playing the #1 team or the # 25 team.Its fucking hype.Their only wins are against ND and Wisconsin.A USC loss to Or St, in a major BCS conference, is not as bad as Mich almost losing to Ball St in a non-BCS conference.Somebody asked why USC had more games than Mich but when it's said and done they'll both have played 12 games.The difference is that while Mich was scheduling Vandy, Cental Mich and Ball St USC was scheduling Arkansas and Nebraska ( both of which are possible BCS teams ).They both played ND.I think that USC could hang 50 on both Mich and Oh St.Saying that Oh St and Mich are the 2 best because they played a classic is ridiculous. They played a game where one team gave up a lot of yards and was only fortunate enough to stay in it because the other team gave the ball back 3 times.At this point you cant argue against Oh St because they went undefeated but they are still getting too much credit for a win against Texas. A Texas team that has 3 losses and could easily have 5.So now you say Oh St's only win was against Mich and again using a circular reference.Under the current circumstances the SEC, Big 12 and ACC teams do not get the benefit of the doubt and play a title game which could hurt themThe NCAA either has to require teams to schedule good teams from other conferences ( not Vandy when you can play Tenn ) in their non-conference schedules and/or they have to mandate that the PAC 10 and Big 10 play a conference title game with the stipulation that unless you're the conference champion you can not be in the BCS title game.Until that's rectified the other conferences will be hurt.People say that if UF wins out they cant play Oh St beacuse they are outclassed. I seem to remember hearing that about an Alabama team that handed Miami an ass-kicking in the title game.

lleeder

11-25-2006, 03:39 PM

20 minutes til USC Notre Dame...time to get pumped!

Tenbatsuzen

11-25-2006, 05:53 PM

JimBeam wrote: South Fla intercepted White w/ less than 2 minutes left so it looks like they'll hold on for the win and thus assuring that West Va, even if they win the Big East, will not be going to the Rose Bowl.UF & FSU are all tied up at 14 I believe. Even before the INT happened, it was impossible for WVU to win the Big East.  Rutgers had already won, meaning that the Rutgers/West Virginia game would have either sent Rutgers or Louisville (if Louisville beat Pitt, which they did.) to the BCS as Big East Champ.  West Virginia had lost to Louisville and Rutgers had beaten them, so if Rutgers beat West Virginia, then they hold the 1-loss tiebreak over Louisville.  (WVU, if they had won today, would have had two Big East losses if they lost to Rutgers)If Louisville loses next weekend, and WVU wins, Rutgers still wins the Big East.   Shows you how screwed the BCS system was... if all three teams had won out going into next weekend, the Big East may have not been sending it's highest ranked team to the BCS Bowl...  WVU/Rutgers will be a good game.  With White injured and USF giving Schiano footage on how to shut down Slaton, it'll come down to how good RU's defense will be.   Plus, I'm sure Leonard will get some more touches - is it weird thinking that he's a potential 2nd or 3rd round draft pick?

Tenbatsuzen

11-25-2006, 05:54 PM

Mr.Pants wrote: How does that taste West Virginia?! Like your mom's cunt.  Rotten.

El Mudo

11-25-2006, 08:18 PM

Bleh....good times and not so good times in Terptown... Can't give up 300 yards rushing and throw 3 INTs and expect to win... I'm more dissapointed than angry...this was a winnable game, the offense was great all night (except for the 3 INT's, all of which were very early, and only one really hurt us), the D was just awful Overall, i think its been a great season,and things are only going to get better...we have a lot of people coming back, and are beginning the Josh Portis Era I think we'll be going to the Gator Bowl? But I have no idea

JimBeam

11-26-2006, 08:48 AM

I was very conflicted last night in the ND/USC game.I'm an Irish fan but was in some way detacching myself from the game because I do not want to see an over-rated Mich get another shot at Oh St.Here's one more thing to consider about Mich and how " good " they are.Oh St only scored 40+ points on 3 other teams ( Indiana 44, Minnesots 44, and Northwestern 54 ) and they had a combined record of 15-21.Oh St's closest game other than Mich was a 17-10 win against an Illinois team that was 2-10 ( including non-conference losses to Rutgers, Syracuse and Ohio ).Yeah I can see how good Mich is now.I hope we get a UF/Ark game againt Mich in the Rose Bowl ( although they might have to go to the Sugar ) to expose them for the sham they are.

This message was edited by JimBeam on 11-26-06 @ 12:49 PM

El Mudo

11-27-2006, 01:36 AM

Axes are falling.... Chuck Amato is out at NC State...and Dirk Koetter is out at Arizona State

Fezticle98

11-27-2006, 12:46 PM

JimBeam wrote: I doubt Spurrier would leave South Car for Miami.He's more about making a bad program good than he is about resurrecting one.The talk the other day was that it would be Alvarez because the Miami AD job is going to be opened soon ( guy's leaving I think they said ) and he could be both the football coach and the AD. He's apparently got some connection with Shalayla too ( I think she was at Wisconsin at some point ).What I could see in some wierd way is Spurrier taking the FSU job when it becomes available in a few years.No. Just no.

Fezticle98

11-27-2006, 12:48 PM

Merry Christmas, Bama:<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2677110">http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2677110</a>Little baby Jesus has answered your prayers.

outlawfrank

11-27-2006, 12:53 PM

Huge news Michigan State has hired Mark Dantonio head coach of Cinncinati.  The very same team which destroyed ESD's champion pick Rutgers.  Go Spartans.

Fezticle98

11-27-2006, 01:05 PM

outlawfrank wrote: Huge news Michigan State has hired Mark Dantonio head coach of Cinncinati.  The very same team which destroyed ESD's champion pick Rutgers.  Go Spartans. Good hire. But anything is an improvement over John L. Smith.

cougarjake13

11-27-2006, 02:32 PM

El Mudo wrote: Axes are falling.... Chuck Amato is out at NC State...and Dirk Koetter is out at Arizona State and espn is dredging up the cowher to nc state talk again

El Mudo

11-27-2006, 04:16 PM

You know what? I don't think its such a bad move for Cowher...he's got plenty of ties there, he'd make a big splash in recruiting, and he's won a Super Bowl at Pissburgh...why not get out while the getting's good? I just wouldn't want him there cause it would hurt Maryland

El Mudo

11-27-2006, 06:56 PM

Iowa State hired Gene Chizik..... I'd say watch out for them in the next few years....Chizik built championship defenses at Auburn and at Texas

Bama

11-29-2006, 09:20 PM

Reading the rumors about the Alabama coaching search has been more entertaining then the actual season.

El Mudo

11-30-2006, 08:39 AM

Someone's reporting in another thread they have an inside source that says Spurrier's going to be hired by Alabama

rustide

11-30-2006, 10:15 AM

Actually it should be (Inside Sources)

Bama

11-30-2006, 03:46 PM

El Mudo wrote: Someone's reporting in another thread they have an inside source that says Spurrier's going to be hired by Alabama Someone's inside source sucks.

cougarjake13

11-30-2006, 04:00 PM

inside sources say that over the next five years spurrier has signed one year deals with the following universities2007 South Carolina2008 FSU2009 Miami2010 Alabama2011 Tennessee

johnniewalker

12-02-2006, 06:55 AM

Nebraska v. Oklahoma tonight.  I'm really glad Nebraska isn't playing Texas, that said though OK is playing pretty tough lately.  This should be a really good game, although it would be nice to see the Big 12 put a really good team up to the BCS...

TokeOne

12-02-2006, 07:21 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: cougarjake13 wrote: i hope schiano stays at rutgers and deosnt leave for the money but it'll be hard to refuse the big money they'll prob throw at him   Make no mistake - Rutgers can throw money at Schiano too.  They've NEVER had a reason to invest in the football program, now they do. Miami doesn't really have a lot of money to throw around. The football program is only about 30 years old or so. They don't have any of the white haired boosters driving Mercedes like Auburn, Michigan, etc have. Plus, while teams like Nebraska, Ohio State, etc are filling 90,000 person stadiums, Miami has about 30,000. Couple that to the money they are paying Perry Clark and they have to pay Coker, they don't have the crazy money that the more established schools have.

Fezticle98

12-02-2006, 10:17 AM

Go Navy, Beat Army!http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/8215/1go20navyvg4.png

El Mudo

12-02-2006, 10:34 AM

As a Maryland guy, I can't honestly root for Navy, not after they stole our girls for years, and refused to play us after one of our players gave them the finger in the 60's.... Go Army... In all seriousness, THIS game is what makes college football great.  It means so much more than any game played all year, even the Super Bowl.

JimBeam

12-02-2006, 11:27 AM

Oklahoma's had a great season when you consider what they've gone through.I mean they easily could be undfeated if not for the loss to Texas ( which was a loss like any other but OK could probably beat them in a rematch ) and the bad call against Oregon.

A.J.

12-02-2006, 11:40 AM

El Mudo wrote: As a Maryland guy, I can't honestly root for Navy, not after they stole our girls for years, and refused to play us after one of our players gave them the finger in the 60's.... Go Army...  In all seriousness, THIS game is what makes college football great.  It means so much more than any game played all year, even the Super Bowl. Don't forget about "The Game". "Go Yale!  Beat Harvard!"<img src="http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/K/C/bush_chugalug.gif" border="0" width="173" height="246" />

JimBeam

12-02-2006, 11:56 AM

On ESPN GameDay they're talking to Lloyd carr and they bring up f'ing Bo Shembechler again.Enough already. I know the guy was big for Mich but I don;t need to continue to hear about him.Move on !On the flip side they questioned him about his non-conference schedule and asked him if he'll reconsider it in the future and all he said was  " We play ND every year ". We so does USC so whats that mean ?He did follow-up that up by saying that he wasn't going to get into a deabte over the schedules and di agree that USC played through a good schedule.People are saying an ND/Mich rematch in the Rose Bowl wouldnt be good and I have to ask why ?Oh St and Mich could rematch but an ND?Mich one wouldnt be fair to Mich because they already beat ND ?I think people are afraid that ND would win this time around and all their talk about how great Mich was would fall by the wayside.I think, I mean I pray, that LSU or UF/Ark gets a shot at Mich and shows them the what have you.I havent ever rooted for LSU, despite going there, but I'd paint my face to watch them pants Mich.

cougarjake13

12-02-2006, 12:09 PM

heres hoping for a usc loss and florida win just to fuck things up a little

JimBeam

12-02-2006, 12:25 PM

That wont fuck things up.They'll then get the Oh St/Mich game most of these people are in love withWhat would be interesting in that scenario is having somebody explain to Oh St, if they lose a 2nd game, that Mich was better than them despite already having beaten them.

cougarjake13

12-02-2006, 12:32 PM

JimBeam wrote: That wont fuck things up.They'll then get the Oh St/Mich game most of these people are in love withWhat would be interesting in that scenario is having somebody explain to Oh St, if they lose a 2nd game, that Mich was better than them despite already having beaten them. so there's no way for fla to jump into the title game

JimBeam

12-02-2006, 12:53 PM

I think from what they are saying there's a very very very slim shot of that happeningThey might've had a much better shot if Ark hadn't lost to LSU.Consensus is that if USC wins they're in ( which totally makes sense ) but if they lose and even if Florida shells Ark Mich would be ranked higher in any BCS standings and have the points.

Fezticle98

12-02-2006, 01:20 PM

All this talk of Florida having a chance at the Nat'l Champioship is making me sick to my stomach. That and the joking about Spurrier going to FSU. While the former is possible, but unlikely, the latter is impossible. Spurrier is persona non grata in Tallahassee. Even when Bowden goes, he'll still have some influence within the program and would not allow that hire to happen.As far as Florida, they are not very good this year. They have a good defense, mediocre offense and special teams (3-12 FGs). Their schedule was tough, but not as tough as it looked like it was going to be. Georgia, Alabama, FSU all average teams at best.If USC drops it and UF blows out Arkansas, it could be interesting. But barring that, Michigan deserves a shot on a neutral field. Similar to 1996 when Florida lost by 3 @ FSU, but got a rematch in the Sugar Bowl and raped us.

JimBeam

12-02-2006, 01:45 PM

I thought they had said something on ESPM about Spurrier signing an extension with South Car so that might not be an issue any moreBut to say that FSU wouldnt hire Spurrier in 5-10 years if he was available and they were unsettled is ridiculous.Why wouldnt they ? Bowden might even by dead by then and I'm not sure why he'd be anto-Spurrier regardless of their rivalries in the past ( which as far as I know where not personal to any degree ).If UF goes 12-1 in the SEC, regardless of how down some of those teams were, thats better than going 11-1 in the Big 10.What's the gauge that makes Mich good w/ one loss ?How well they played in a game they lost ?I pointed out last week just how " close " they played Oh St while surrendering 42 points.Were Mich's wins against Vandy ( a team UF beat as well ) and Central Mich better than UF's wins against UGA ( which beat Ga Tech the winner of an ACC division ) and LSU ( at team that might be going to a BCS bowl game ) ?As far as how good a team looks that shouldnt be the issue.Didnt Oh St upset a Miami team that was supposed to be so much better a few years ago ?Didnt OK beat an FSU team that was supposed to be better for a title ?Upsets do happen and I'm not sure that a UF win against Mich would be an upset.The media hype has made Mich into this monster who's only wins are against ND and Wisconsin.

Fezticle98

12-02-2006, 02:07 PM

JimBeam wrote: But to say that FSU wouldnt hire Spurrier in 5-10 years if he was available and they were unsettled is ridiculous.Why wouldnt they ? Bowden might even by dead by then and I'm not sure why he'd be anto-Spurrier regardless of their rivalries in the past ( which as far as I know where not personal to any degree ).As far as how good a team looks that shouldnt be the issue.Upsets do happen and I'm not sure that a UF win against Mich would be an upset.In 5-10 years, Spurrier would be 66-71 years old. There is no chance that FSU would hire him. To suggest otherwise is ignorant.What else can you go on besides how a team looks?UF probably won't be playing Michigan, so it's kind of pointless, but who do you think would be favored? Michigan by at least 3-4 points.

This message was edited by fezticle98 on 12-2-06 @ 6:08 PM