Baseball On Fox

[DirtyJersey]

Can anyone else not stand watching baseball on Fox? From the little music montages to interrupting the actual goddamn game to show an interview or another game, I think its the worst presentation of a sport ever. Watching this All-Star game reminds why I turn the radio on whenever a game is on Fox.

[Tazz]

I agree, but only because they have the worse baseball announcers of
all time. I'm shocked McCarver can get Jeter and Rivera's cocks out of
his mouth long enough to call a game. <br />

[JPMNICK]

I can not believe how Jeter got booed over there.

[OGC]

<strong>Tazz</strong> wrote:<br />I agree, but only because they have the worse baseball announcers of all time. I'm shocked McCarver can get Jeter and Rivera's cocks out of his mouth long enough to call a game. <br /><p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" size="2">I was a big fan of the Big Red MAchine in the 70's but I would have to say theat there is no worse announcer than Joe Morgan, always stating the obvious in that monotonous tone.</font></p>

[Snoogans]

it doesnt matter what fox does in terms of music or production or what, if joe buck and or tim mccarver are announcing a game, its going to be terrible. <br />

[DirtyJersey]

<strong>Tazz</strong> wrote:<br />I agree, but only because they have the worse baseball announcers of all time. I'm shocked McCarver can get Jeter and Rivera's cocks out of his mouth long enough to call a game. <br /><p>I always thought of McCarver as being a Yankee hater, being a former met announcer and player of national league teams for most of his carreer. Maybe its just because Im a Yankee fan but I've heard glee in his voice as well as Joe Bucks whenever the Yankees are getting beat on Fox.</p>

[Snoogans]

i think fox does that shit on purpose. Whenever a NY Giants game is on fox, they put joe buck with TROY AIKMEN and usually MOOSE JOHNSON. Way to understand the fanbase dickheads, its a giants game<br />

[kdubya]

<strong>DirtyJersey</strong> wrote:<br />Can anyone else not stand watching baseball on Fox? From the little music montages to interrupting the actual goddamn game to show an interview or another game, I think its the worst presentation of a sport ever. Watching this All-Star game reminds why I turn the radio on whenever a game is on Fox. <p>Yup, I agree 100%, and I can't stand Joe Buck. Self rightous ass. They should let the local guys cover the game, that would at least be interesting.</p>

[kdubya]

I sit just me or does Jeanie Zelasko always look drunk

[NortonRules]

<p>Dirty Jersey is correct.&nbsp;FOX baseball sucks.&nbsp; &nbsp;ESPN, too.&nbsp; Buck and McCarver ABSOLUTELY HATE the Yankees and jab at them every chance they get.&nbsp; The Yanks hit a home run and they find some way of making that a negative.&nbsp; The Yanks score a ton of runs without home runs and they turn that into a negative.&nbsp; No win situation.&nbsp; </p><p>Joe Morgan, Jon Miller,&nbsp;Harold Reynolds and John Kruk are terrible, too.&nbsp; I've never heard such bitter negative people in my life.&nbsp; They only give backhanded compliments while trashing other players at the same time.&nbsp; Yankees or not.&nbsp; Jon Miller less so, but still...&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Did Harold Reynolds never win a World Series?&nbsp; I'm trying to figure out why he's so angry and bitter.&nbsp; </p><p>Yes, I'm a Yankees fan, but I honesty feel that Ken Singleton, Al Leiter and&nbsp;Jim Kaat do a great job.&nbsp; They're funny, knowlegable and don't feel the need to BASH whoever is currently in the game.&nbsp; They are realistic and will call someone out when needed, but they don't wallow in it for the pre-game, during the game and the post-game.&nbsp;They go out of their way to point out the positives in the opposing teams.&nbsp; </p><p>It's sad that the class of the Yankees organization can't be widespread in the league and in&nbsp;the industry.&nbsp; </p>

[JPMNICK]

I think Al Leiter is great on YES

[Snoogans]

<p>&nbsp;</p><p><span class="postbody"><p>Yes, I'm a Yankees fan, but I honesty feel
that Ken Singleton, Al Leiter and&nbsp;Jim Kaat do a great job.&nbsp; They're
funny, knowlegable and don't feel the need to BASH whoever is currently
in the game.&nbsp; They are realistic and will call someone out when needed,
but they don't wallow in it for the pre-game, during the game and the
post-game.&nbsp;They go out of their way to point out the positives in the
opposing teams.&nbsp; </p><p>It's sad that the class of the Yankees organization can't be widespread in the league and in&nbsp;the industry.&nbsp; </p></span>&nbsp;</p><p>i was about to agree and say its a shame that michael kay sucks enough for everyone, so its still horrible even though the other guys are fine.</p><p>you fucked it all up anyway by adding in that insane last statement. That line speaks for itself as a major reason alot of people hate the yankees and their jackass fans&nbsp;</p>

[DirtyJersey]

<strong>kdubya</strong> wrote:<br />I sit just me or does Jeanie Zelasko always look drunk <p>I think she looks like Marlon Wayans from White Chicks. I'd still do her though.</p>

[DirtyJersey]

Thats right Joe Buck, the American league beat the National league, dont show too much enthusiasm you jerkoff. Can he be any more deadpan with his delivery, if it was the national league that won him and McCarver would blowing each other by now. I hate these two douchebags.

[Meatball]

<p>Goddamm that piece of shit Trevor Hoffman! What does he care? But now the METS who will most likely</p><p>be in the world series this year lost Home Field Advantage. Sure who cares now...but youll see when the series begins, and Boston has the HFA even if the METS win 120 games youll remember that Trevor Hoffman asshole months back who sucked!</p><p>and how is it that the managers didnt get all the players in the game? I thought they bend over backwards to get everyone at least 1 inning.</p>

[FUNKMAN]

placed a small wager on the NL getting 1 1/2&nbsp;&nbsp; PHEWWWWW!

[who6489]

<strong>richg0404</strong> wrote:<br /><p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" size="2">I was a big fan of the Big Red MAchine in the 70's but I would have to say theat there is no worse announcer than Joe Morgan, always stating the obvious in that monotonous tone.</font></p><p><font size="2">I agree. And what's with Jon Miller, who is whiter that I am, tryin' to sound all Spanish when he's sayin' the&nbsp;Hispanic player's names! Rollin' the R's, etc.</font></p><p><font size="2">Your white Jon, get used to it.</font></p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by who6489 on 7-12-06 @ 12:20 AM</span>

[Fallon]

<a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=As9n6BU1pcnEzMVv0k5jLrARvLYF?slug=ap-baseball-tv&prov=ap&type=lgns" target="_blank">Fox, TBS lead baseball's new 7-year TV deal</a>

[spoon]

<strong>Tazz</strong> wrote:<br />I agree, but only because they have the worse baseball announcers of all time. I'm shocked McCarver can get Jeter and Rivera's cocks out of his mouth long enough to call a game. <br /><p>I agree with Tazz all the way!&nbsp; Fuck that talk of them hating the yanks, you yankee fans are just used to even worse baseball guys and insane homerism.&nbsp; The only guy I like on the YES team is AL (I'm with you JP).&nbsp; Many times I've heard him actually correct Singleton/Kaat and even have to explain situations that those two just fucking ignore and or when they just can't take off the yankee specs.&nbsp; Calling the yankee crew good is fucking nuts.&nbsp; I'm no homer either as I hate most of the Toronto crew (minus their radio team).&nbsp; Pat Tabler, yes that Pat Tabler makes me puke at times.&nbsp; However, Tom Cheek was damn good.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>&quot;Can anyone else not stand watching baseball on Fox? From the little music montages to interrupting the actual goddamn game to show an interview or another game, I think its the worst presentation of a sport ever. Watching this All-Star game reminds why I turn the radio on whenever a game is on Fox.&quot; <p>&nbsp;</p>Holy shit was it tough to watch and the radio idea is usually the way I go too (XM rules for this).&nbsp; My girl and I were constantly pissed off as they didn't even notice the Wright at bat where he homered until it was over, and then we missed more live action as they showed the replay 50 fucking times.&nbsp; And I don't need to see Joe fucking Buck scoring the game in the stands, or interviews of Garner as he admits he's not really managing the damn game (steals, 3-0 counts and the like).&nbsp; Why even be there asshole?&nbsp; I'd be fucking pissed if I were any other manager in the NL that this tool represented you guys.&nbsp;

[spoon]

<strong>kdubya</strong> wrote:<br /><blockquote /><p>&nbsp;They should let the local guys cover the game, that would at least be interesting.</p><p>Now this I would be up for.&nbsp; Yet I'm sure we'd still be constantly bombarded with ads via the breaks, interludes and more.&nbsp; It just got fucking old quick.&nbsp; Say by the bottom of the first or so.&nbsp; The coverage reminded me of ESPN's Baseball Tonight program that is on par with garbage.</p>

[DirtyJersey]

<p>http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a225/JerseyQ/bf4.jpg</p><p>Jon Miller reminds me of Ben Franklin. A Ben Franklin that sucks.</p>

[DirtyJersey]

<strong>spoon</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>kdubya</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;They should let the local guys cover the game, that would at least be interesting.</p><p>Now this I would be up for.&nbsp; Yet I'm sure we'd still be constantly bombarded with ads via the breaks, interludes and more.&nbsp; It just got fucking old quick.&nbsp; Say by the bottom of the first or so.&nbsp; The coverage reminded me of ESPN's Baseball Tonight program that is on par with garbage.</p><p>At least Scooter is gone. That was the worst thing ever.</p>

[FUNKMAN]

<p>i almost always watch my sports with no sound. there are just too many crappy announcers in sports. if you understand the game you really just need to watch it and not hear it</p><p>the one i liked the most was Walt Frazier... &quot;bumblin and stumblin&quot;</p>

[spoon]

<strong>NortonRules</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Dirty Jersey is correct.&nbsp;FOX baseball sucks.&nbsp; &nbsp;ESPN, too.&nbsp; Buck and McCarver ABSOLUTELY HATE the Yankees and jab at them every chance they get.&nbsp; The Yanks hit a home run and they find some way of making that a negative.&nbsp; The Yanks score a ton of runs without home runs and they turn that into a negative.&nbsp; No win situation.&nbsp; </p><p>Joe Morgan, Jon Miller,&nbsp;Harold Reynolds and John Kruk are terrible, too.&nbsp; I've never heard such bitter negative people in my life.&nbsp; They only give backhanded compliments while trashing other players at the same time.&nbsp; Yankees or not.&nbsp; Jon Miller less so, but still...&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Did Harold Reynolds never win a World Series?&nbsp; I'm trying to figure out why he's so angry and bitter.&nbsp; </p><p>Yes, I'm a Yankees fan, but I honesty feel that Ken Singleton, Al Leiter and&nbsp;Jim Kaat do a great job.&nbsp; <font style="background-color: #ffff00">They're funny, knowlegable and don't feel the need to BASH whoever is currently in the game.</font>&nbsp; They are realistic and will call someone out when needed, but they don't wallow in it for the pre-game, during the game and the post-game.&nbsp;They go out of their way to point out the positives in the opposing teams.&nbsp; </p><p>It's sad that the class of the Yankees organization can't be widespread in the league and in&nbsp;the industry.&nbsp; </p><p>They're funny and knowledgable??!!!&nbsp; You my friend are fucking nuts.&nbsp; They bring nothing to the table that isn't prepped for them by the YES staff besides Leiter.&nbsp; Sure I don't watch all the time but I do catch most of the the Sox (both), Jays and other big games that the yanks play so I see enough.&nbsp; As an outside fan, I have to say they fucking blow.&nbsp; Having the MLB package on DTV, I get to compare many other teams and I'd have to say the Braves and White Sox are the only other teams I've noticed that may be as bad, if not worse.&nbsp; The White Sox crew have more dead air than ESD back on the WRAT and carry on convos like two pals at the game with nobody listening.&nbsp;&nbsp;They actually scream stuff like &quot;miss it&quot;, &quot;throw it away&quot;, &quot;get foul&quot; and many other classics like this as they call the game.&nbsp; One time Glaus fielded a hot shot at third as it hit him in the face and they yelled &quot;knock him down! He's got to be woozy now, throw it away!!!&quot;&nbsp; Glaus was fine and threw out the runner and he (I think they call the anouncer Hawk) then stated what a lucky play and fucking Thome (yes that Thome) would have had a triple.&nbsp; Did Thome ever hit a triple?&nbsp; Fucking idiot homer tarts.</p>

[spoon]

<strong>Meatball</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Goddamm that piece of shit Trevor Hoffman! What does he care? But now the METS who will most likely</p><p>be in the world series this year lost Home Field Advantage. Sure who cares now...but youll see when the series begins, and Boston has the HFA even if the METS win 120 games youll remember that Trevor Hoffman asshole months back who sucked!</p><p>and how is it that the managers didnt get all the players in the game? I thought they bend over backwards to get everyone at least 1 inning.</p><p>Whooooo!&nbsp; Calm down there Meatball!&nbsp; Let's wait until the Mets finish the second half healthy and win two always tough playoff series before you put the Mets in the World Series.&nbsp; Hell why even play the rest of the 2006 season as you have it all figured out.&nbsp; Mets/Boston huh?&nbsp; I'd be willing to bet the White Sox, Detroit, yanks, Blue Jays, Twins and more will have something to say about that.&nbsp; Hell, the Sox (Red) have a long way to go yet and the wild card isn't going to be easy itself.&nbsp; </p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by spoon on 7-12-06 @ 1:04 AM</span>

[RingWraith]

<strong>FUNKMAN</strong> wrote:<br /><p>i almost always watch my sports with no sound. there are just too many crappy announcers in sports. if you understand the game you really just need to watch it and not hear it</p><p>the one i liked the most was Walt Frazier... &quot;bumblin and stumblin&quot;</p><p>NOOOOO!!!!!!&nbsp; I can't believe you said you liked Walt f**king Frazier!!!!&nbsp; By far the annoying sounding man&nbsp;I've ever heard for a Knick game.&nbsp; The guy sounds like retard with all his quirks!!!!</p><p>Anyway, back to topic.&nbsp; Yes it is unaminous, Everybody hates Joe Buck and Tim McCarver.&nbsp; They annoy everyone.</p>

[Rockvillejoe]

It's attention deficit disorder television. They motivate you to go see the game live and in peace and quiet. &nbsp;The same bullshit for ABC's world cup coverage. Those fucking guys never stopped talking, the entire game. RE babseball talking heads: Jon Miller, next to Vin Scully and Jack Buck, (RIP),&nbsp;is the best... thing... going......... today!

[phixion]

<p><font style="background-color: #ffff00">They're funny, knowlegable and don't feel the need to BASH whoever is currently in the game.</font></p><p>knowledgable? arent they the guys a few years couldnt figure out why the yanks didnt get atriple play after tagging the guy on third twice? they are fuckin retards and lets be honest people all the tv guys suck. they always have basebal is a radio sport it fits that medium perfectly and the radio guys always sound the best too. rip bob murphy</p>

[A.J.]

<strong>DirtyJersey</strong> wrote:<br />Can anyone else not stand watching baseball on Fox? From the little music montages to interrupting the actual goddamn game to show an interview or another game, I think its the worst presentation of a sport ever. Watching this All-Star game reminds why I turn the radio on whenever a game is on Fox. <p>What sickened me was their coverage during the 2003 and 2004 ALCSes.&nbsp;&nbsp;Endless shots of Bambino signsin the crowd and replays of&nbsp;past Boston-Yankee moments.&nbsp; Stop rubbing our noses in it and just play the fucking game.</p>

[crb1]

<strong>spoon</strong> wrote:<br />They're funny and knowledgable??!!!&nbsp; You my friend are fucking nuts.&nbsp; They bring nothing to the table that isn't prepped for them by the YES staff besides Leiter.&nbsp; Sure I don't watch all the time but I do catch most of the the Sox (both), Jays and other big games that the yanks play so I see enough.&nbsp; As an outside fan, I have to say they fucking blow.&nbsp; <p>Sorry, but I have to partially disagree with you there.&nbsp; I think Jim Kaat is one of the best analysts I've ever heard, and he does not have the analysis part of his job prepared for him.&nbsp; He picks out things that most people would never notice or realize, and has been doing so for years.&nbsp; He was actually an ESPN analyst before going to MSG (and later YES), so he must have some ability and insight.&nbsp; And he has come under fire from the Yankee gestapo on several occasions for not kissing the asses of Yankee players enough and complimenting the performance of other players too often.&nbsp; Not from Steinbrenner, but the little lemmings in the front office that need to justify their existence.</p><p>As for the others, I completely agree with you.&nbsp; Although Leiter is decent.&nbsp; Kay, Singleton, Murcer, etc. all blow.</p>

[kdubya]

<span style="font-size: 7.5pt; color: black; font-family: verdana">OK, enough with what a clutch guy Ortiz is. Sure he has had some big hits, but to call him ,the most clutch player in the modern era, or however the worded it, is just stupid. I don't remember&nbsp;wich one of the dicks last night&nbsp;said it but it is bull shit. I am not a Yankees fan, in fact I hope the Blue Jay win the east because I am sick or the Res Sox Yankees crap. That said I have to say the most clutch guy is Jeter by far. First off he has been in more big games and had a lot more plays that have given his team wins. Also he plays in the field, not just hitting. I mean two of the greatest plays , at least most replayed ones were Jeter diving into the stands for a pop fly, and Jeter flipping it to Posada to get Giambi out at home.<p>&nbsp;</p></span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; color: black; font-family: verdana">Sure Ortiz can hit, but Jeter is a legend, I would take Jeter in the 7th game of the world series&nbsp;over Ortiz anyway. <p>&nbsp;</p></span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; color: black; font-family: verdana">Ortiz is the definition of one dimensional.<p>&nbsp;</p></span>

[badorties]

<strong>JPMNICK</strong> wrote:<br />I think Al Leiter is great on YES <p>i've grown to loathe al leiter, michael kay, and the banal radio team ... give me a booth of mercer, singleton, kaat and the occassional o'neil</p><p>kay is so bad on the TV that i really can't watch a whole game anymore</p><p>and fox is the worst</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by badorties on 7-12-06 @ 10:08 AM</span>

[A.J.]

<p>The RemDawg is wicked pissah!</p><p><img height="240" src="http://confessionalpoet.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/remy_dorag3.jpg" width="316" border="0" /></p>

[El Mudo]

I'm just glad I don't have to listen to Ron Darling anymore


Sucks to be you, Mets fans

[JimBeam]

<p>A few things :</p><p>Meatball, in the old playoff system when the All-Star game meant nothing&nbsp;the Mets could win 152 games and if it wasnt the NLs turn to be the homteam in the WS it wouldnt matter so lets not act like that tips the scales too far.</p><p>Jeter has had HUGE hits/momments in the playoffs so please dont make the falling in the stands on a foulball in July one of his career moments.</p><p>And I still have that damn &quot; Head, Shoulders, Knees and Toes &quot; song in my head from when Vlad hit the homerun.</p><p>Damn you FOX !!</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by JimBeam on 7-12-06 @ 12:15 PM</span>

[kdubya]

<strong>JimBeam</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Jeter has had HUGE hits/momments in the playoffs so please dont make the falling in the stands on a foulball in July one of his career moments.</p><span class="post_edited">This message was edited by JimBeam on 7-12-06 @ 12:15 PM</span> <p>There is nothing wrong with that play being considered when talking about why he is great. I say what you do in the regular season games is as importent as the big games. Throwing himself into a play to get the out is why Jeter is Jeter. He doesn't wait for the big show, he pushes all the time. If you don't make those plays you never get a chance to make the plays in the big games.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Also I was arguing in favor of Jeter not against, so relax.</p>

[JimBeam]

<p>I knew you were pro-Jeter, and I'm not a Yankee fan, not anti-Jeter either, but that play is truly one of the most over-rated plays in the history of organized sports and the fact that the guy has so many other things going for him its silly to use that one.</p><p>That play is probably made 10 times a week in MLB.</p>

[kdubya]

<strong>JimBeam</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I knew you were pro-Jeter, and I'm not a Yankee fan, not anti-Jeter either, but that play is truly one of the most over-rated plays in the history of organized sports and the fact that the guy has so many other things going for him its silly to use that one.</p><p>That play is probably made 10 times a week in MLB.</p><p>I gotcha bro</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>If he hadn't come up with a bloody nose it wouldn't get the play it does.</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by kdubya on 7-12-06 @ 12:47 PM</span>

[Snoogans]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>kdubya</strong> wrote:<br /><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; color: black; font-family: verdana;">OK, enough with what a clutch guy Ortiz is. Sure he has had some big hits, but to call him ,the most clutch player in the modern era, or however the worded it, is just stupid. I don't remember wich one of the dicks last night said it but it is bull shit. I am not a Yankees fan, in fact I hope the Blue Jay win the east because I am sick or the Res Sox Yankees crap. That said I have to say the most clutch guy is Jeter by far. First off he has been in more big games and had a lot more plays that have given his team wins. Also he plays in the field, not just hitting. I mean two of the greatest plays , at least most replayed ones were Jeter diving into the stands for a pop fly, and Jeter flipping it to Posada to get Giambi out at home.<p> </p></span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; color: black; font-family: verdana;">Sure Ortiz can hit, but Jeter is a legend, I would take Jeter in the 7th game of the world series over Ortiz anyway. <p> </p></span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; color: black; font-family: verdana;">Ortiz is the definition of one dimensional.<p> </p></span><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>wow you people are retarded. Jeter? Ortiz wins far more games then jeter. Also, can we clarify a couple things. 1, JETER DIDNT DIVE INTO STANDS TO CATCH ANYTHING. He caught the ball running toward the stands and then had to dive in from momentum. Watch the play again, he is almost in fair territory when he actually catches the ball.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>And 2, GIAMBI WAS FUCKIN SAFE, and you all know it&nbsp;</p>

[yomudder21]

<p>I have always been a huge Mets fan and can remember watching Tim McGarver and Ralphie Kiner for years on good ol' Channel 9.</p><p>Now, every time I hear Tim McGarver i want to change the channel.&nbsp; That pompous dick is so annoying.&nbsp; Everything he sees is either the weirdest play in years, the best young something in the past 3 years, some awful analogy that makes no sense.</p><p>YOU SUCK TIM!&nbsp; Deion should have kicked your ass.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[JimBeam]

<p>Snoogans I've already agreed w/ you on the stands play.</p><p>The flip to home plate was a good headsup play but if that fat hump Giambi had slid, like anbody who was ever taught to play baseball, he'd have been safe.</p><p>Ortiz has been CLUTCH the last few years and nobdy can take away from that.</p><p>Thats why its tough when you try and rank something like that because each can be clutch in their own way.</p><p>A-Rod on the other hand has never been clutch. Great great player, his numbers show it, but he has yet to get it done when its meant something.</p>

[Snoogans]

<p>in fairness to giambi, you are supposed to have the on deck hitter there tellin you that you need to slide. A similar thing happened in a mets game a couple weeks ago. If no one is telling you to slide, you dont.</p><p>Anyway, even without sliding, i still think his foot got down before he was tagged. It was a hell of a heads up play by jeter, ill give him that, but it just drives me nuts when yankee fans talk about them and add all this and that to make it into some legendary play, like that catch. 10 feet from the stands he caught that ball, but now its a diving into the stands catch these years later&nbsp;</p>

[JimBeam]

Not to make this a Jeter-bashing thing but on top of all you said it was a foul ball and runners wouldnt have scored anyway and it was in July.

[DirtyJersey]

<strong>JimBeam</strong> wrote:<br /><p>And I still have that damn &quot; Head, Shoulders, Knees and Toes &quot; song in my head from when Vlad hit the homerun.</p><p>Damn you FOX !!</p><span class="post_edited">This message was edited by JimBeam on 7-12-06 @ 12:15 PM</span> <p>Thats what prompted me to start this thread, they act like everyone watching is 4 years old.</p>

[spoon]

<strong>kdubya</strong> wrote:<br /><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; color: black; font-family: verdana">OK, enough with what a clutch guy Ortiz is. Sure he has had some big hits, but to call him ,the most clutch player in the modern era, or however the worded it, is just stupid. I don't remember&nbsp;wich one of the dicks last night&nbsp;said it but it is bull shit. I am not a Yankees fan, in fact I hope the Blue Jay win the east because I am sick or the Res Sox Yankees crap. That said I have to say the most clutch guy is Jeter by far. First off he has been in more big games and had a lot more plays that have given his team wins. Also he plays in the field, not just hitting. I mean two of the greatest plays , at least most replayed ones were Jeter diving into the stands for a pop fly, and Jeter flipping it to Posada to get Giambi out at home. <p>&nbsp;</p></span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; color: black; font-family: verdana">Sure Ortiz can hit, but Jeter is a legend, I would take Jeter in the 7th game of the world series&nbsp;over Ortiz anyway. <p>&nbsp;</p></span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; color: black; font-family: verdana">Ortiz is the definition of one dimensional. <p>&nbsp;</p></span><p>Say what you want about the one demension, but he sure as hell bailed out last years MVP with that catch at first.&nbsp; Hell, Arod might have gotten two errors if that ball found the dugout.&nbsp; So much for that fielding advantage huh?&nbsp; Perhaps the yanks should dh him too?&nbsp; Obviously I'm kidding, but Ortiz is a pretty good athlete and could be an at least average first baseman.&nbsp; In fact, he blocks a ton of balls by sheer mass and the ensuing gravitational pull bringing errant throws back to him.&nbsp; Clearly I'd rather have Ortiz batting in that spot you speak, but calling him the greatest of all-time is a stretch.&nbsp; We all know that's Arod. </p><p>And by the way, Giambi was safe. </p>

[RingWraith]

<strong>spoon</strong> wrote: <p>Say what you want about the one demension, but he sure as hell bailed out last years MVP with that catch at first.&nbsp; Hell, Arod might have gotten two errors if that ball found the dugout.&nbsp; So much for that fielding advantage huh?&nbsp; Perhaps the yanks should dh him too?&nbsp; Obviously I'm kidding, but Ortiz is a pretty good athlete and could be an at least average first baseman.&nbsp; In fact, <strong><font size="1">he blocks a ton of balls by sheer mass and the ensuing gravitational pull bringing errant throws back to him.</font></strong>&nbsp; Clearly I'd rather have Ortiz batting in that spot you speak, but calling him the greatest of all-time is a stretch.&nbsp; We all know that's Arod. </p><p><strong><font size="1">And by the way, Giambi was safe.</font></strong> </p><p>That's funny!&nbsp; I always knew there were stuff orbiting Ortiz everytime he comes to the plate.</p><p>And by the way, Jeremy Giambi WAS OUT!&nbsp; For the shear reason of being a lesser-known brother of the Giambi's.&nbsp; He ain't getting that call.</p>

[cougarjake13]

<p>i'm just tired of hearing the same old shit from morgan and his god damn 70's reds teams </p><p>&nbsp;buck acts like he's trying to be early 90's sportscenter anchors with his attempts at comedy </p><p>and mc carver is just fucking horrible and explains everything as if everyone watching knew nothing about baseball and this was the first game they ever watched</p>