David Ortiz does not play 1st base

[kdubya]

<span style="color: black; font-family: verdana"><font size="3">David Ortiz was voted by the fans to start at 1st for the AL all star team, only problem is he aint a first baseman. This is crazy, he has played first 17 times in the last 2 years. Paul Korneko is a much better first baseman, or should I say IS a first baseman. <p>&nbsp;</p></font></span><span style="color: black; font-family: verdana"><font size="3">Anyone else have any thoughts?<p>&nbsp;</p></font></span><span style="color: black; font-family: verdana"><font size="3">For the record I am not a Yankees or Red Sox fan, so this isn't politically motivated.<p>&nbsp;</p></font></span><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;<p>&nbsp;</p></font></font>

[Don Stugots]

well he hasnt played 1st but this year there is not a DH in the all star game and he does deserve to be there.&nbsp; no question about that.&nbsp;

[FezPaul]

<p>http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f281/FezPaul/buckner.jpg</p><p><strong><font face="courier new,courier,monospace" size="2">The only 1st Baseman for Boston that matters.</font></strong>&nbsp; </p>

[abortedfetus]

There is no DH since it's being played in a NL ballpark.&nbsp; He's the most clutch hitter in the game today and Paul Konerko is horrible.&nbsp; He or Carlos Beltran are the most overrated players today.&nbsp; Besides, this isn't new.&nbsp; Rafael Palmeiro won a Gold Glove in the late nineties and played less than 50 games at first.&nbsp; Why don't we just make the starting lineup all White Sox.&nbsp; Guillen did his best to make it that way.

[FUNKMAN]

who's on second?

[Gvac]

<strong>FUNKMAN</strong> wrote:<br />who's on second?<p>&nbsp;</p>No...Who's on first.<br />

[Sheeplovr]

did he invent ortiz gum?<br />

[FUNKMAN]

<strong>Gvac</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>FUNKMAN</strong> wrote:<br />who's on second? <p>&nbsp;</p>No...Who's on first.<br /><p>I Don't Know....</p>

[Don Stugots]

<strong>FUNKMAN</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Gvac</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>FUNKMAN</strong> wrote:<br />who's on second? <p>&nbsp;</p>No...Who's on first.<br /><p>I Don't Know....</p><p>third base</p>

[FUNKMAN]

<strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>FUNKMAN</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Gvac</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>FUNKMAN</strong> wrote:<br />who's on second? <p>&nbsp;</p>No...Who's on first.<br /><p>I Don't Know....</p><p>third base</p><p>what?</p>

[OGC]

<p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" size="3">If you ask me it is ridiculous that they don't have the DH in every All Star game. Does anyone really think that any pitcher is actually an all star at the plate ?</font></p><p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" size="3">I suppose if the national league doesn't want the DH during their regular season it's their loss, but making the fans watch a pitcher bat in the all star game, instead of a power hitter is silly.</font></p>

[FezPaul]

<strong>FUNKMAN</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>FUNKMAN</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Gvac</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>FUNKMAN</strong> wrote:<br />who's on second? <p>&nbsp;</p>No...Who's on first.<br /><p>I Don't Know....</p><p>third base</p><p>what?</p><p>what's on second</p>

[Don Stugots]

<strong>FezPaul</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>FUNKMAN</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>FUNKMAN</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Gvac</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>FUNKMAN</strong> wrote:<br />who's on second? <p>&nbsp;</p>No...Who's on first.<br /><p>I Don't Know....</p><p>third base</p><p>what?</p><p>what's on second</p><p>who?</p>

[FezPaul]

<strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>FezPaul</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>FUNKMAN</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>FUNKMAN</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Gvac</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>FUNKMAN</strong> wrote:<br />who's on second? <p>&nbsp;</p>No...Who's on first.<br /><p>I Don't Know....</p><p>third base</p><p>what?</p><p>what's on second</p><p>who?</p><p><strong><font size="3">FIRST BASE!!!</font></strong></p>

[Don Stugots]

<strong>FezPaul</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>FezPaul</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>FUNKMAN</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>FUNKMAN</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Gvac</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>FUNKMAN</strong> wrote:<br />who's on second? <p>&nbsp;</p>No...Who's on first.<br /><p>I Don't Know....</p><p>third base</p><p>what?</p><p>what's on second</p><p>who?</p><p><strong><font size="3">FIRST BASE!!!</font></strong></p><p>thats what i want to know!</p>

[Davios]

What's funny is, they didn't even put Thome on the ballot. Why you might ask? They stated it was because he is a DH this season. Even though he plays more games there than Ortiz. Just a tad bit unfair in my opinion.

[Don Stugots]

maybe you should complain about the Thome fans?

[Davios]

<strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br />maybe you should complain about the Thome fans? <p>&nbsp;</p><p>How does that even make sense????</p>

[Don Stugots]

well, since you are so fucking quick to complain about yankee fans why not be equal and rip anyone that you disagree with?

[kdubya]

<strong>Davios</strong> wrote:<br />What's funny is, they didn't even put Thome on the ballot. Why you might ask? They stated it was because he is a DH this season. Even though he plays more games there than Ortiz. Just a tad bit unfair in my opinion. <p>I agree, the ballot was crazy. Sure Ortiz is cluch with the bat, but he doesn't play first, so don't list him as a first baseman.</p><p>The arguement that he is a DH and there is no DH at a national league park is silly. If there is no DH, then DH aren't on the ballot. They can get selected&nbsp;by the manager&nbsp;and sub in later. It may suck for DHs, but if they would learn a position it wouldn't be a problem. Just my 2 cents.</p><p>Also want to talk about overrated, Ortiz is a bat, nothing else, last time I checked&nbsp;fielding was a big part of baseball. Like Crash said, you hit the ball throw the ball and catch the ball, not ya hit the ball then take a seat.</p>

[Fallon]

When Ortiz is playing at NL parks he's the first baseman for the Sox. Same deal with the all-star game.

[Davios]

<strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br />well, since you are so fucking quick to complain about yankee fans why not be equal and rip anyone that you disagree with? <p>&nbsp;</p><p>If I were talking about how unfair it was that Thome wasn't on the all star ballot but Ortiz was, why the hell would I rip his fans? If you want to insult me for no reason, at the very least make some sense in doing it.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I stated my opinion as a Yankees fan that my team's fanbase has become very fickle. What the hell does any of that have to do with my opinion on the All star voting??????</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Davios on 7-3-06 @ 10:24 PM</span>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>kdubya</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Davios</strong> wrote:<br />What's funny is, they didn't even put Thome on the ballot. Why you might ask? They stated it was because he is a DH this season. Even though he plays more games there than Ortiz. Just a tad bit unfair in my opinion. <p>&nbsp;It may suck for DHs, but if they would learn a position it wouldn't be a problem. Just my 2 cents.</p><p>Also want to talk about overrated, Ortiz is a bat, nothing else, last time I checked&nbsp;fielding was a big part of baseball. Like Crash said, you hit the ball throw the ball and catch the ball, not ya hit the ball then take a seat.</p><p>ortiz did learn a position and has played first&nbsp;in his major league career but the majority of his time has been spent as a dh, especially with the red sox but if you have a bat like his and he isnt that adept at playing a position you gotta find a way for him to be in the lineup and thats dh</p><p>as for the all star game he has to be there somehow and regardless of what position they put next to his name, he would have got voted in, fuck they could have listed him as a shortstop it wouldn t matter b/c no one votes for the position they vote for the name </p><p><img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" /></p>

[Don Stugots]

<strong>Davios</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br />well, since you are so fucking quick to complain about yankee fans why not be equal and rip anyone that you disagree with? <p>&nbsp;</p><p>If I were talking about how unfair it was that Thome wasn't on the all star ballot but Ortiz was, why the hell would I rip his fans? If you want to insult me for no reason, at the very least make some sense in doing it.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I stated my opinion as a Yankees fan that my team's fanbase has become very fickle. What the hell does any of that have to do with my opinion on the All star voting??????</p><span class="post_edited">This message was edited by Davios on 7-3-06 @ 10:24 PM</span> <p>i was just trying to point out how hard you were being on Bulldog for no reason at all.&nbsp; </p>

[BoondockSaint]

Who cares?&nbsp; the game sucks anyway.

[kdubya]

<strong>Fallon</strong> wrote:<br />When Ortiz is playing at NL parks he's the first baseman for the Sox. Same deal with the all-star game. <p>I didn't know that, and that makes for a good argument. &nbsp;OK, now maybe I can deal with it. Still don't like it, but at least that makes some sense.</p>

[El Mudo]

The rule that every team must be represented is worse...

Because of that, we get Mark Redman on the AL staff instead of Curt Schilling...

[cougarjake13]

<strong>El Mudo</strong> wrote:<br />The rule that every team must be represented is worse... Because of that, we get Mark Redman on the AL staff instead of Curt Schilling... <p>yeh and with the home field advantage on the line i think i would rather have schilling on the roster</p><p>if they wanna do it right they have to follow the suggestion of one of the talking heads on around the horn or pti, take the roster control out of the mgr's hands so he doesnt overload them with his guys like ozzie did, or the way joe torre used to do and eliminate the every team must be represented rule</p><p><img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" /></p>

[The Jays]

I'm getting on the bandwagon of the idea that the visiting team's rules should be played, not the home teams, to offset the homefield advantage.

I think the DH should be in effect for the All-Star game. Unless you're Mike Hampton or Jason Marquis, the pitcher is just gonna be hogging up a spot for one of the All-Star reserves. They already have enough trouble making sure every player gets to play. It don't help if the pitcher is taking up a spot that a pinch hitter is going to be coming in for anyway after the 3rd.

[cougarjake13]

<strong>TheJays</strong> wrote:<br />I'm getting on the bandwagon of the idea that the visiting team's rules should be played, not the home teams, to offset the homefield advantage. I think the DH should be in effect for the All-Star game. Unless you're Mike Hampton or Jason Marquis, the pitcher is just gonna be hogging up a spot for one of the All-Star reserves. They already have enough trouble making sure every player gets to play. It don't help if the pitcher is taking up a spot that a pinch hitter is going to be coming in for anyway after the 3rd. <p>&nbsp;</p><span class="post_edited"><p><strong>TheJays</strong> wrote:<br />I'm getting on the bandwagon of the idea that the visiting team's rules should be played, not the home teams, to offset the homefield advantage.</p><p><strong><font size="3">&nbsp;I think the DH should be in effect for the All-Star game.</font></strong> </p><p>Unless you're Mike Hampton or Jason Marquis, the pitcher is just gonna be hogging up a spot for one of the All-Star reserves. They already have enough trouble making sure every player gets to play. It don't help if the pitcher is taking up a spot that a pinch hitter is going to be coming in for anyway after the 3rd. </p><p>only problem is that it still an advatage for the AL , since they play all season with a DH</p></span>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by cougarjake13 on 7-3-06 @ 11:22 PM</span>