View Full Version : Mancow's Sour Grapes?
Tenbatsuzen
06-23-2006, 05:30 PM
<p>Does Erich Muller, better known to radio listeners as Mancow, know
something unknown to investors in Sirius and XM? "It's old technology!
I have a cellphone that can get any radio station on Earth for free!
Why the hell would I pay for radio?" he rants to Chaunce Hayden in
Penthouse. "You can go on the Internet and listen to Howard Stern for
free! Why would you pay for that? . . . <a href="http://www.nypost.com/gossip/pagesix/pagesix_u.htm">Satellite is a giant scheme. When this is over, it's going to be just like Enron. They have sold America a bill of goods.</a> It's one of those things where a few people at the top are going to make money, and everyone else is going to get screwed."</p><p> </p><p>Now, Mancow is attacking two things here - listening to satellite radio AND the business practices of XM and Sirius.</p><p> </p><p>Where the business practice attack may have SOME merit, this whole cell phone and "listening on the internet" smacks of sour grapes. </p><p> </p><p>Listening on a cellphone still costs money. And for the most part, people listen to the radio in the car.</p><p> </p><p> </p>
NortonRules
06-23-2006, 06:06 PM
<p>Isn't Mancow on Sirius? Or is that some other baskstabbing douche? I always get them all confused. I'm not up on my radio hacks. </p><p>Anything besides AFRO is grabage. </p>
NortonRules
06-23-2006, 06:13 PM
Wait - I know - Bubba is on Sirius. Those two are interchangeable to me.
Recyclerz
06-23-2006, 07:17 PM
<p><font face="Arial" size="1">Well, I’ve never heard Mancow on the radio and the few times I’ve seen him on TV he came across as a dick. His rant here (if the quotes are fair) shows that first impressions are often correct. The initial hype on cable TV was that it would either completely replace or be crushed by broadcast TV. Turns out both extremes were wrong; cable just broadened the market and significantly ate up broadcast’s growth potential and cartel profits. I suspect we’ll have a similar symbiotic relationship in radio as we have in TV pretty soon; O&A are just the leading edge of it.</font></p><font size="1"> <br /></font><font size="1">I don’t work in radio but I do understand a little about business models and I think the only thing that ruins satellite radio’s future is a seamless, high quality wi-fi blanket over the major population centers so that people could listen to internet radio stations in their cars or wherever they’re at with handheld devices. And I don’t see that happening anytime soon. The Motley Fool has done a few good analyses on how XM and Sirius can start branching out their revenue streams and enhancing their services once they get the critical mass of subscribers they’re racing for now. ( I’m too lazy to go find the links now.) So I think satellite radio is here to stay and Mancow, like Tenbat is saying, is just crying sour grapes because he’s just seen his future potential go from the next Howard Stern to the next Soupy Sales.<br /></font> <br />
PapaBear
06-23-2006, 07:38 PM
The guy says you can listen to Stern online for free. Yeah... if you break the law. And if everyone did that, there would be no Stern (or any other radio personality), so no free listening online. What an idiot. I've never hear Mancow's show, but if has a lot of this kind of logic, it must be a pretty bad show.
Don Stugots
06-23-2006, 10:24 PM
<strong>NortonRules</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Isn't Mancow on Sirius? Or is that some other baskstabbing douche? I always get them all confused. I'm not up on my radio hacks. </p><p>Anything besides AFRO is grabage. </p><p>you might be thinking of Cowhead. </p>
Grendel_Kahn
06-24-2006, 04:45 AM
I was thinking about this for a bit. I was wondering if there was
ever a situation like the O/A XM-FM deal. The closest thing to my
mind is QUEER EYE FOR THE STRAIGHT GUY. The show was a gigantic
hit on BRAVO, and NBC, struggling to find decent programming, hopped on
board. There was a very successful rebroadcast of the origingal
show once a week. Now TV is a different animal than radio, and
much more subjected to the whims of executives. BUt it is in the
same family, and not too bad a comparison. The combined sub rate
for both companies is ( to round up slighty) about 20 million.
Anytime 20 million people hop on board ANYTHING, the people with money
take notice. I think in the end that is why O/A wound up on
FM. I think it is only a matter of time before Viacom and XM
merge, It makes sense for both companies to go that way, and I
can't really see a downside to it. Yes, XM is bleeding money, but
not as badly as last year, or the year before that. In fact they
seem much closer to actually turning a profit than Sirius. The
next logical step, as far as I can see, is an integration in cars of
FM/AM/XM/HD. <br />
Don Stugots
06-24-2006, 06:01 AM
i think Mancow fogets all the shit he says and the two companies as soon as one offers him a contract. i doubt he is on regular radio because he wants to. he is either getting paid a shit load of cash to stay, or no one wants him. Since he is so good, why is it he never stay broadcasting in NYC? he was on for about a week and that was in 1997, i think.
Grendel_Kahn
06-24-2006, 07:55 AM
<p>Furthermore, Cowhead wasn't a backstabber. His move was
discussed and the boys ( O/A ) wished him well. He has a
family to take care of and it is widely known that XM moves
WAAAAAYYYYYY too slow., </p><p>I always liked what I heard from
his show and he had great chemistry with O/A. I think, he would
have made a great addition to 202. But such is
things...................... </p>
ConnieSwail
06-24-2006, 08:07 AM
That hack owns my hometown of Chicago. <br />
Johnny4
06-24-2006, 07:54 PM
<font size="4">I<font size="3"> heard his show once. It is terrible.
Noone laughs at his jokes, not even the people he is paying to laugh at
them. Stern, O and A, and R and Fez have been were off free radio for 6
months and still no one hired him. Chicago digs him and that is it.
Sirius would never hire him. Not as long as Stern is there.<br />
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Death Metal Moe
06-24-2006, 09:35 PM
Mancow sucks the fat one.
NortonRules
06-24-2006, 10:47 PM
<p>Just to clarify - I didn't say Cowhead was a backstabber. Someone assumed I meant Cowhead. </p><p>I have no idea who Cowhead is. I was referring to Mancow and Bubba kissing O&A's ass behind the scenes, then bashing them on the radio. Phonies.</p>
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