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narc

06-13-2006, 05:25 PM

I asked Fallon if I could start this, but he hasn't responded yet, but I figure if he doesn't like it, he can just lock it. This is for discussion of everything that happens on the show, and not generally relating to the return.

This message was edited by Fallon on 7-31-06 @ 1:35 PM

Don Stugots

06-13-2006, 05:29 PM

i cant wait for the show to start. i am looking forword to this. i have alot of good memories of it.

DirtyJersey

06-13-2006, 05:56 PM

I only thing that pisses me off is that the two people I hate most in WWE (Cena and Edge) are now going to pollute my sacred ECW with their presence.

Don Stugots

06-13-2006, 06:01 PM

i dont like the poluting of the ECW water but i think that will be worked out.

Tenbatsuzen

06-13-2006, 06:06 PM

Not a very hot crowd for Trenton. Probably because the show was sold out as an SD! show, and the WWE mutants don't know what the fuck is going on.

Tenbatsuzen

06-13-2006, 06:08 PM

"IT SPINS!"

walking joint

06-13-2006, 06:10 PM

i like live shows, but i'd rather a taped ECW show at a smaller venue then doing a show at a Smackdown taping.

Don Stugots

06-13-2006, 06:10 PM

it seems wierd. and the ECW belt looks fake

Tenbatsuzen

06-13-2006, 06:13 PM

STUGOTS1 wrote: it seems wierd. and the ECW belt looks fake
   Is that the old ECW title?  Looks like it. BTW, if they do Cena-RVD-Edge for the title at Vengeance, it better be a fucking Three-Way-Dance and not a triple threat.

Tenbatsuzen

06-13-2006, 06:14 PM

I'm kind of shocked that I haven't seen any ads that are the staple of WWE programming - nintendo, PS2, Skittles, Starburst, etc.

Don Stugots

06-13-2006, 06:15 PM

Matty if they dont then it is not ECW. we need the dudleys and the BwO.

Don Stugots

06-13-2006, 06:17 PM

are you fucking kidding me? the zombie? this better be a work.

HBox

06-13-2006, 06:18 PM

It;s the Ultimate Warrior!

Tenbatsuzen

06-13-2006, 06:18 PM

STUGOTS1 wrote: are you fucking kidding me? the zombie? this better be a work.   You couldn't tell from the ENTRANCE this was a joke?  This is a huge fuck you to Sci-Fi, and it's fucking hysterical.

Tenbatsuzen

06-13-2006, 06:20 PM

Zombie mark since Day 1.

cougarjake13

06-13-2006, 06:27 PM

STUGOTS1 wrote: are you fucking kidding me? the zombie? this better be a work. at first i thought they were ripping on mick foley

cougarjake13

06-13-2006, 06:30 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  STUGOTS1 wrote: it seems wierd. and the ECW belt looks fake Is that the old ECW title?  Looks like it. BTW, if they do Cena-RVD-Edge for the title at Vengeance, it better be a fucking Three-Way-Dance and not a triple threat.it looks as may they might be setting that up but i think what they are gonna do is have rvd vs edge at venegence with edge bringing the title back as rvd didnt throw it down and then have a cena edge fued begin hence edge's run in to cost cena his title in the first place<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

Se7en

06-13-2006, 06:30 PM

This show is horrid.  But that is keeping it true to the old ECW I guess.At least the production values are 1000 times better than the old ECW shows.

cougarjake13

06-13-2006, 06:32 PM

Se7en wrote: This show is horrid.  But that is keeping it true to the old ECW I guess.At least the production values are 1000 times better than the old ECW shows.it still feels like nothing more than a heat or velocity taping<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

DirtyJersey

06-13-2006, 06:35 PM

I put on the sci fi channel at 10 o'clock to watch ECW but for some reason Smackdown is on. There must be some kind of screw up.

cougarjake13

06-13-2006, 06:36 PM

DirtyJersey wrote: I put on the sci fi channel at 10 o'clock to watch ECW but for some reason Smackdown is on. There must be some kind of screw up.yeh the retards in the truck put the wrong tape inbtw this blonde chick is smoking<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

walking joint

06-13-2006, 06:36 PM

only 35 minutes in and i have a really bad feeling about this.  enough of the RAW cross promotion.  the segments are so RAW/Smackdown like its depressing.

Tenbatsuzen

06-13-2006, 06:36 PM

OK, here's the thing... ECW didn't have a time slot until what, a month ago? So basically, this first taping was rushed, and it's in front of a tired SD! crowd. Trust me, it'll get better as they get their legs. Who the fuck is this Kelly chick?  I have a feeling she's gonna get fucked up by Francine or Beulah.

DirtyJersey

06-13-2006, 06:41 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Trust me, it'll get better as they get their legs.  I believe it will get better but better in a Smackdown sort of way. It doesnt even come close to that ECW feel. I should have expected this, oh yeah thats right, I did.

Tenbatsuzen

06-13-2006, 06:43 PM

What the hell was that?

DirtyJersey

06-13-2006, 06:44 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: What the hell was that? That was a girl who couldn't get her bra off. classic

narc

06-13-2006, 06:46 PM

Seriously, I've developed more of a facility with getting a bra off than that girl, and it's not like I get to round second that much. Tranny?

Tenbatsuzen

06-13-2006, 06:48 PM

DirtyJersey wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: What the hell was that? That was a girl who couldn't get her bra off. classic   Was there any point to it?  Other than being a callback to The Night Kimona Wannaleia... danced atop the ECW Arena... I don't see what it has to do with anything.The only reason Kimona Wannaleia... danced atop the ECW Arena... was because the ring was fucked up and had to be repaired mid-show.

cougarjake13

06-13-2006, 06:50 PM

well i guess it wont be a triple threat  <img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

Tenbatsuzen

06-13-2006, 06:51 PM

narc wrote: Seriously, I've developed more of a facility with getting a bra off than that girl, and it's not like I get to round second that much. Tranny?   Way too fucking hot to be a tranny.  She's an OVW talent.  It's either "Barbie Blank" or "Shelly Martinez".  I'll lean towards "Barbie".

Tenbatsuzen

06-13-2006, 06:53 PM

What's the guess until we hear, "Hey, that's Katee Sackoff!" or "Michael Shanks is a fan of ECW!"

cougarjake13

06-13-2006, 06:55 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  narc wrote: Seriously, I've developed more of a facility with getting a bra off than that girl, and it's not like I get to round second that much. Tranny?Way too fucking hot to be a tranny.  She's an OVW talent.  It's either "Barbie Blank" or "Shelly Martinez".  I'll lean towards "Barbie". well this is shelly so it has to be barbie<img height="315" src="http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/d/desireupw/11.jpg" width="211" border="0" />

asayresk

06-13-2006, 07:14 PM

I guess everyone beat me to the punch. the first episode of the new ecw really sucked. I rather have two quality macthes then have four squash macthes. they basically waterdown ECw to a smackdown level and that pisses me off. I know they have to sell commercials but what can i say i miss the old ecw. plus there were to many damn kids in the audience, i want the bingo halls back.

SpicyMcHaggis

06-13-2006, 07:37 PM

I really hope that this was just a result of it being taped after Smackdown.  I really had wished they taped it at the Ballroom.  Why try to gain a new crowd?  It loses the feeling when 10 year olds are chanting ECW because they think it's cool.  I don't want to hate on it.  I really don't.  But this was a really rediculous way to start off.  I saw no new talent except for Trinity and Kelly (who's Barbie).  A former ECW Champion was turned into a joke by Angle.  Tazz and Joey Styles were not as good as they were on ONS.  Here's an idea, Vince...NO MORE ARENAS!!!They can't tape at these big venues anymore because it makes ECW seem like a small fish in a big pond.  I hope this gets better before it gets worse.  I really do.

DirtyJersey

06-13-2006, 07:56 PM

The biggest problem I have with it is all these WWE guys on ECW. A few guys here and there can work but what they did tonight was just a glorified Smackdown. All the kids in the crowd didnt belong there either. They werent even born when ECW was big, much less know all the wrestlers.

Evilpete

06-13-2006, 08:29 PM

well you got to give them a few weeks, it was only the first show, so let's stop judging one only one show

Se7en

06-13-2006, 08:45 PM

This may have been - and this is no joke or hyperbole - the worst wrestling show I've seen in a long time.I've seen AAA shows on Galavision that smoked this in terms of quality.  And anyone who's seen AAA knows that is really saying something.

RingWraith

06-13-2006, 09:09 PM

Worst debu..............ever!!!

Tenbatsuzen

06-13-2006, 09:09 PM

Se7en wrote: This may have been - and this is no joke or hyperbole - the worst wrestling show I've seen in a long time.I've seen AAA shows on Galavision that smoked this in terms of quality. And anyone who's seen AAA knows that is really saying something.   Good points - The Zombie gag, Sabu winning the BR (but not the BR itself) and RVD's line about the WWE belt. Bad points - Kelly, Vampire, the dead crowd. I say you have to give it a month or so.

CYYYFYYY

06-13-2006, 09:11 PM

<div>Sheesh why half you guys watch wrestling is beyond my understanding.  It was there first show.  You may not have noticed but they only have like 15 wrestlers signed to ECW so you are not going to see a dram card.  That is also why they are forced to have Edge and Cena on there card.  They will have to develop people.   Also a lot of people have no idea who these guys are so there will be some squash matches so you know who is good and who is not.  My only complaint is you can;t have itt taped with Smack Down.  A big part of ECW is the crowd.</div><div /><div>AAlso I am sure everyone noticed the ECW title and the Raw title are two different belts so Van Dam can lose the Raw Titel and still be ECW champ.  To me this is a good thing.</div>

RingWraith

06-13-2006, 09:19 PM

Worst debut!!! Sorry about that! (I MUST PROOFREAD!!)

GlassJoe

06-13-2006, 11:37 PM

This was the first ECW program made for regular television in about 5 years.  You're going to have to give it time.O&A
(or maybe it was Ron & Fez...I'm too drunk to remember) actually
made a good point that can be made for ECW:  go watch the premiere
episode of Seinfeld.  It fucking SUCKS compared to the later
episodes. You can't expect ECW to come out on its first edition and pick up where it left off in 1999 or 2000.

Sheeplovr

06-14-2006, 02:15 AM

You can't expect ECW to come out on its first edition and pick up where it left off in 1999 or 2000now i havent watched wrestling since like 2000and i usally put on sci fi channel so i ended up seeing this and mostlyit was like looking at a year bookwhen justin credible came out i was like oh wow he's not dead wasnt he a crack addictor go oh wow sandman looks like shit (what happend ot the metallica intro? thats what made his crazy entrance so cool) did sabu pop a hernia?god
all of them are so old its sad looking and the props were so silly they
had a phoney street sign thing that broke it was hillarious they just need new people im probly never going to watch it again no way not probably definetlybut
it's like all these haggard old guys and with the good cameras instead
of the crummy camera in some vfw hall makes it not look so coollike
what was that comercai lthey showed some kinda ecw one night something
that looked like the old days with the small place and all the crowds
there and fire and barbwire and blood what was that a ppv?they
showed that thingwith tazz coming out dooing his old towel on the head
thing but he ruined his name it wasnt as cool as it was years agoehh leave it to the people who wanna still watch wreslting i just liked the one time going down ecw memory lane kinda thingnow put a sci fi show back in scifi channle

MilkmanDann

06-14-2006, 03:37 AM

Gotta lose the FBI, its like the freaking Mulkey brothers. Sabu winning salvaged the show for me

EliSnow

06-14-2006, 04:55 AM

Sheeplovr wrote: or go oh wow sandman looks like shit (what happend ot the metallica intro? thats what made his crazy entrance so cool) Vince didn't want to pay for the rights to play Enter Sandman for every show.

EliSnow

06-14-2006, 05:10 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: What's the guess until we hear, "Hey, that's Katee Sackoff!" or "Michael Shanks is a fan of ECW!"Or see ECW stars guest-star on BG or Stargate, like the Rock appeared on Voyager after Smackdown started on UPN?

GlassJoe

06-14-2006, 05:35 AM

Sheeplovr wrote:  You can't expect ECW to come out on its first edition and pick up where it left off in 1999 or 2000 now i havent watched wrestling since like 2000and i usally put on sci fi channel so i ended up seeing this and mostlyit was like looking at a year bookwhen justin credible came out i was like oh wow he's not dead wasnt he a crack addictor go oh wow sandman looks like shit (what happend ot the metallica intro? thats what made his crazy entrance so cool) did sabu pop a hernia?god
all of them are so old its sad looking and the props were so silly they
had a phoney street sign thing that broke it was hillarious they just need new people im probly never going to watch it again no way not probably definetlybut
it's like all these haggard old guys and with the good cameras instead
of the crummy camera in some vfw hall makes it not look so coollike
what was that comercai lthey showed some kinda ecw one night something
that looked like the old days with the small place and all the crowds
there and fire and barbwire and blood what was that a ppv?they
showed that thingwith tazz coming out dooing his old towel on the head
thing but he ruined his name it wasnt as cool as it was years agoehh leave it to the people who wanna still watch wreslting i just liked the one time going down ecw memory lane kinda thingnow put a sci fi show back in scifi channle  Yeah, I noticed how bad Sandman looked too. I still say that its going to take a while for them to get their shit together and really start having some good shows.  This whole ECW vs Raw angle is just WWE's way of promoting ECW.  Having Edge and John Cena on the first episode was just their way of getting newer WWE fans who aren't familiar with ECW to tune in.

GlassJoe

06-14-2006, 05:36 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: What's the guess until we hear, "Hey, that's Katee Sackoff!" or "Michael Shanks is a fan of ECW!"  Do you honestly think that if ECW had made it on TNN/Spike that we wouldn't have seen Joe Schmoe in the ECW Arena?

Tenbatsuzen

06-14-2006, 06:28 AM

EliSnow wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: What's the guess until we hear, "Hey, that's Katee Sackoff!" or "Michael Shanks is a fan of ECW!"Or see ECW stars guest-star on BG or Stargate, like the Rock appeared on Voyager after Smackdown started on UPN?   At this rate, the closest you'll get is Kelly as one of Baltar's whores in Galactica.  It's more likely to see ECW people in Stargate than BG, considering that BG is a "serious" show.

Se7en

06-14-2006, 06:41 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  Se7en wrote: This may have been - and this is no joke or hyperbole - the worst wrestling show I've seen in a long time.I've seen AAA shows on Galavision that smoked this in terms of quality. And anyone who's seen AAA knows that is really saying something.   Good points - The Zombie gag, Sabu winning the BR (but not the BR itself) and RVD's line about the WWE belt. Bad points - Kelly, Vampire, the dead crowd. I say you have to give it a month or so. No.  I really don't.  You're assuming that this will get better, and given the WWE's track record for the past few, I don't know, years, I'd say that's more than likely a fool's hope.

GlassJoe

06-14-2006, 07:06 AM

Se7en wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: Se7en wrote: This may have been - and this is no joke or hyperbole - the worst wrestling show I've seen in a long time.I've seen AAA shows on Galavision that smoked this in terms of quality. And anyone who's seen AAA knows that is really saying something. Good points - The Zombie gag, Sabu winning the BR (but not the BR itself) and RVD's line about the WWE belt. Bad points - Kelly, Vampire, the dead crowd. I say you have to give it a month or so. No. I really don't. You're assuming that this will get better, and given the WWE's track record for the past few, I don't know, years, I'd say that's more than likely a fool's hope. This is something that's going to be a lot different from Raw or Smackdown.  Its not Stephanie McMahon and a bunch of corporate ass-kissers doing the booking.  Its Paul Heyman and Tommy Dreamer running the show.  Vince McMahon does have to give the final ok on all bookings, but Heyman isn't going to write storylines just to try and make Vince happy.I just don't understand why some people are in such a hurry to write off ECW based on one show.  I was in a "watching ECW" thread on another message board and literally 7 minutes into the show, fanboys started ripping the show apart."MAN, FUCK VINCE MCMAHON!  HE FUCKING RUINED ECW!""PAUL HEYMAN SOLD HIS SOUL TO THE DEVIL!" "I CAN'T EVEN WATCH THIS!  THIS IS SUCH BULLSHIT!"It was like an army of clones of the Crying Wrestling Fan.

JustJon

06-14-2006, 07:19 AM

I thought it was ok.Hopefully, there will be less of a WWE presence in the future. (of course, ECW is invading again Monday)I'd prefer to see a smaller, more intemate crowd.  It was part of ECW's charm.I love Kelly.  Ok, her dancing was pointless and she couldn't get her bra off, but DAMN!  Funny thing, I was talking to a client on IM and I mentioned I was watching wrestling while talking to her and she asked me if Kelly premiered yet.  I'd never heard of Kelly before, but my client knew that Barbie Blanks was going to be on the show as Kelly, and knew of her prior modelling career.

GlassJoe

06-14-2006, 07:22 AM

JustJon wrote: Hopefully, there will be less of a WWE presence in the future. (of course, ECW is invading again Monday)  People need to realize that the WWE presence is not going to be a regular thing.  They're just going that route right now as a way to promote ECW to newer WWE fans who aren't familiar with it.

Fallon

06-14-2006, 08:30 AM

<img width="456" height="352" border="0" src="http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/kellyphotos/510.jpg" />I want to bite her ass!

Tenbatsuzen

06-14-2006, 08:41 AM

Girls who have pink highlights break the 1-10 scale.  So fucking hot.

JustJon

06-14-2006, 08:47 AM

If anyone ever wondered why Fallon is a mod...

EliSnow

06-14-2006, 08:55 AM

Fallon wrote: <img height="352" src="http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/kellyphotos/510.jpg" width="456" border="0" />I want to bite her ass! Biting is one of many things I'd love to do to that ass.

narc

06-14-2006, 08:57 AM

I just hope they bring back the Zombie. That was great. OR, alternatively, next week have Balls Mahoney fight a Wookiee. I would watch that again and again.

Fallon

06-14-2006, 08:59 AM

JustJon wrote: If anyone ever wondered why Fallon is a mod...   <a href="http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/kellyphotos/" target="_blank">http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/kellyphotos/</a>

narc

06-14-2006, 09:24 AM

Could they get New Jack?

DirtyJersey

06-14-2006, 09:25 AM

If you asked me 9 years ago, "What would be the worst thing that could ever happen to ECW?" I would have explained a program similar to the one I saw last night.

This message was edited by DirtyJersey on 6-14-06 @ 1:25 PM

JustJon

06-14-2006, 09:28 AM

narc wrote: Could they get New Jack?  He's with the MTV promotion right now

Se7en

06-14-2006, 11:08 AM

This is something that's going to be a lot different from Raw or Smackdown.ÿ Its not Stephanie McMahon and a bunch of corporate ass-kissers doing the booking.ÿ Its Paul Heyman and Tommy Dreamer running the show.ÿ Vince McMahon does have to give the final ok on all bookings, but Heyman isn't going to write storylines just to try and make Vince happy.I just don't understand why some people are in such a hurry to write off ECW based on one show.ÿ I was in a "watching ECW" thread on another message board and literally 7 minutes into the show, fanboys started ripping the show apart."MAN, FUCK VINCE MCMAHON!ÿ HE FUCKING RUINED ECW!""PAUL HEYMAN SOLD HIS SOUL TO THE DEVIL!"ÿ"I CAN'T EVEN WATCH THIS!ÿ THIS IS SUCH BULLSHIT!"It was like an army of clones of the Crying Wrestling Fan.ÿÿ<hr color="cococo" align="left">[/quote]

I'm not complaining that Heyman sold out or any of that nonsense.

IMO, ECW was always dogshit. I'm just pointing out that whatever charm it once had is gone, and Heyman is very unlikely to be able to recapture it. For a great many reasons. It doesn't matter if Stephanie is involved or not, this is a WWE product, and it will show. I find it unlikely that things will improve. To make the show even halfway decent, he's going to need better workers and to book the show not with shitty garbage matches or squash matches, but with good, solid WRESTLING matches featuring the good workers on the roster. With maybe a hardcore match here or there. In other words, he'll have to make it sort of a combo of CZW and ROH, but doing that will take it even further away from its ECW roots and alienate the base even more.

One thing is undeniable, though. They needed to hit one out of the park last night, and general consensus remains that the show was absolutely horrid.

About the Zombie: This needs a payoff. I suggest bringing the guy out every week, to have him be demolished in short order each week by a random ECW guy. Have everyone treat him as a joke.

Then, a few weeks in, they go to the back and they show that the Zombie has killed someone and is eating their brains. Now THAT I would tune to see.

cougarjake13

06-14-2006, 11:49 AM

as a previous poster has said concerning the wwe presence, there isnt many ecw guys around to have a full card until they start developing the new talent and using them <img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

DirtyJersey

06-14-2006, 03:38 PM

cougarjake13 wrote: as a previous poster has said concerning the wwe presence, there isnt many ecw guys around to have a full card until they start developing the new talent and using them I really hope they do that. Give me new ECW guys, give me old ones, just keep the main guys of Raw out. It still amazes me that people hold up "Chain Gang" signs.

narc

06-14-2006, 03:39 PM

It's because they're 12. Or the Lord of Iron.

Don Stugots

06-14-2006, 03:42 PM

or a wigger!

narc

06-14-2006, 03:44 PM

<img src="http://www.alvarezgtr.com/images/artists/ani_difranco.jpg"

Don Stugots

06-14-2006, 04:21 PM

wow it took a whole 2 mins. you guy are slipping

Iamnotatool

06-15-2006, 09:04 AM

Bring on CM Punk, or some other new guys.  The biggest problem is te show is on RIGHT AFTER SMACKDOWN TAPINGS!!! It's a pro-WWE crowd.  I know it might cost more, but I'd rather see them just tape the fucking house shows, where they will have more of an ECW crowd.  That was half the fun of the PPV, the crowd chanting the garbage at the WWE guys.SAME OLD SHIT, SAME OLD SHIT PS.  I do think ECW has helped Cena step up his game a bit.

cougarjake13

06-15-2006, 02:14 PM

Iamnotatool wrote: The biggest problem is te show is on RIGHT AFTER SMACKDOWN TAPINGS!!!It's a pro-WWE crowd.  I know it might cost more, but I'd rather see them just tape the fucking house shows, where they will have more of an ECW crowd.  That was half the fun of the PPV, the crowd chanting the garbage at the WWE guys.SAME OLD SHIT, SAME OLD SHITthese are the summer ecw shows doesnt say which ones are the tv ones but i guess if you get a claneder you can figure it out, i'm too lazy to do it myselfJune 20 – <a title="" href="http://www.wwe.com/schedules/events/eventdetail/?id=2484790" target="_blank">Albany, N.Y. – Pepsi Arena </a>June 24 – <a title="" href="http://www.wwe.com/schedules/events/eventdetail/?id=2837474" target="_blank">Philadelphia Pa. – Alhambra Arena (ECW Arena)</a>  July 1 - <a title="" href="http://www.wwe.com/schedules/events/eventdetail/?id=2872408" target="_blank">Belle Vernon, PA - The Rostraver Garden</a> July 2 - <a title="" href="http://www.wwe.com/schedules/events/eventdetail/?id=2919364" target="_blank">Huntington, W. Va. – Big Sandy Superstore Arena</a> July 8 - <a title="" href="http://www.wwe.com/schedules/events/eventdetail/?id=2835246" target="_blank">Racine, Wis. – Memorial Hall</a> July 9 – <a title="" href="http://www.wwe.com/schedules/events/eventdetail/?id=2835010" target="_blank">Green Bay, Wis. – Brown County Expo Center</a> July 10 – <a title="" href="http://www.wwe.com/schedules/events/eventdetail/?id=2835096" target="_blank">La Crosse, Wis. – La Crosse Center</a> July 11 – <a title="" href="http://www.wwe.com/schedules/events/eventdetail/?id=2839826" target="_blank">Minneapolis, Minn. –Target Center</a> July 16 – <a title="" href="http://www.wwe.com/schedules/events/eventdetail/?id=2835270" target="_blank">Huntsville, Texas – Sam Houston Coliseum</a> July 17 – <a title="" href="http://www.wwe.com/schedules/events/eventdetail/?id=2839724" target="_blank">Austin, Texas – Palmer Event Center</a> July 18 – <a title="" href="http://www.wwe.com/schedules/events/eventdetail/?id=2805786" target="_blank">Corpus Christi, Texas – American Bank Center</a> July 22 – <a title="" href="http://www.wwe.com/schedules/events/eventdetail/?id=2834942" target="_blank">Muskegon, Mich. – L.C. Walker Arena </a>July 23 – <a title="" href="http://www.wwe.com/schedules/events/eventdetail/?id=2835108" target="_blank">Saginaw, Mich. – Dow Event Center</a> July 24 – <a title="" href="http://www.wwe.com/schedules/events/eventdetail/?id=2835050" target="_blank">Battle Creek, Mich – Kellogg Arena</a> July 25- <a title="" href="http://www.wwe.com/schedules/events/eventdetail/?id=2805718" target="_blank">Detroit, Mich. – Joe Louis Arena</a> July 29 – <a title="" href="http://www.wwe.com/schedules/events/eventdetail/?id=2834902" target="_blank">Durham, N.H. – Whittemore Center</a> July 30 – <a title="" href="http://www.wwe.com/schedules/events/eventdetail/?id=2835040" target="_blank">Fitchburg, Mass. - Wallace Civic Center</a> August 5 – <a title="" href="http://www.wwe.com/schedules/events/eventdetail/?id=2834914" target="_blank">Poplar Bluff, Mo - Black River Coliseum</a> August 6 – <a title="" href="http://www.wwe.com/schedules/events/eventdetail/?id=2835076" target="_blank">Jackson, Tenn. – Oman arena</a> August 7 – <a title="" href="http://www.wwe.com/schedules/events/eventdetail/?id=2835060" target="_blank">McMinnville, Tenn.– McMinnville Civic Center </a>August 8 – <a title="" href="http://www.wwe.com/schedules/events/eventdetail/?id=2774832" target="_blank">Nashville, Tenn. – Gaylord Entertainment Center</a> August 12 – <a title="" href="http://www.w

Don Stugots

06-15-2006, 02:17 PM

no NYC dates?? get the elks lodge on Queens blvd!!!

Hosp

06-15-2006, 02:44 PM

The Elks doesn't allow wrestling shows anymore, and besides, the new ECW wouldn't run a show in a building that at most could hold 1000 people.  The Westchester County Center show is 30 minutes out of the city on the Metro North and they used to do Raw and Superstars tapings there back in the day, so I'd count on that being a taping night.  The funny thing being, that when the REAL ECW held their one show there, they got banned from the building for content and language.

Don Stugots

06-15-2006, 02:50 PM

<hr color="cococo" align="left">Hosp wrote: The Elks doesn't allow wrestling shows anymore, and besides, the new ECW wouldn't run a show in a building that at most could hold 1000 people. The Westchester County Center show is 30 minutes out of the city on the Metro North and they used to do Raw and Superstars tapings there back in the day, so I'd count on that being a taping night. The funny thing being, that when the REAL ECW held their one show there, they got banned from the building for content and language.<hr color="cococo" align="left">

anyone up for a R&F.net outing???

Hosp

06-15-2006, 07:50 PM

I'm going to try to get ringside seats the day the tickets go on sale, if people want to meet for dinner or something before I'd be up for it.

narc

06-15-2006, 08:15 PM

If you guys go, you need to have RF.net signs.

Digger

06-15-2006, 09:44 PM

This new "ECW" is basically just another brand of WWE like RAW and Smackdown. There going to be doing this cross promo thing all the time. That squash match Kurt Angle versus Justin Credible that was a typical WWE way of doing things it made me physically ill. Justin didn't even have his signature kendo stick. A big part of what made the old ECW great was the crowd IT WAS A FUCKING WWE CROWD! with 7 year old fucking kids who had no danm idea of what they were seeing it was mess. It seemed like it was just thrown together with no thought what so ever like RAW and Smackdown, you can't really blame it on the fact that it's only an hour show, NWA TNA is only an hour show and they have atleast two decent matches. And what was with that vampire thing?. Kelly stripping was hot, but totaly out of place if it was in front of an ECW crowd when she couldn't get her bra off you would get a "YOU FUCKED UP! YOU FUCKED UP!" chant. Next weeks show had better be 100 times better than the first one, they don't have time to work out the kinks they need to get this thing rolling.

King Imp

06-16-2006, 08:34 AM

I personally don't get why anyone gets upset at the Angle squash over Credible. Let's face facts, Justin Credible is and was as deserving of being a world champ as Jeff Jarrett is. They are both nothing more than mid-carders that have no business being in the main event so I have absolutely no problem with Angle destroying him.  

This message was edited by King Imp on 6-16-06 @ 12:34 PM

Tenbatsuzen

06-16-2006, 10:35 AM

Digger wrote: This new "ECW" is basically just another brand of WWE like RAW and Smackdown. There going to be doing this cross promo thing all the time. That squash match Kurt Angle versus Justin Credible that was a typical WWE way of doing things it made me physically ill. Justin didn't even have his signature kendo stick.     Did it?  Did you really get sick?  Did you? Credible's "signature" kendo stick?  Newsflash.  It was Sandman's before Credible's, and the main reason Credible started using it was because it was part of his gimmick when he was feuding with Sandman. Secondly, the way WWE works is that ONE person gets ONE gimmick, whether it's weapon, look, or finisher.  Sandman gets the kendo stick.

cougarjake13

06-16-2006, 12:40 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  Digger wrote: This new "ECW" is basically just another brand of WWE like RAW and Smackdown. There going to be doing this cross promo thing all the time. That squash match Kurt Angle versus Justin Credible that was a typical WWE way of doing things it made me physically ill. Justin didn't even have his signature kendo stick.   Credible's "signature" kendo stick?  Newsflash.  It was Sandman's before Credible's, and the main reason Credible started using it was because it was part of his gimmick when he was feuding with Sandman. Secondly, the way WWE works is that ONE person gets ONE gimmick, whether it's weapon, look, or finisher.  Sandman gets the kendo stick.well how do you explain tommy dreamer using the kendo stick then ???<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

Don Stugots

06-16-2006, 01:15 PM

<hr color="cococo" align="left">cougarjake13 wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: Digger wrote: This new "ECW" is basically just another brand of WWE like RAW and Smackdown. There going to be doing this cross promo thing all the time. That squash match Kurt Angle versus Justin Credible that was a typical WWE way of doing things it made me physically ill. Justin didn't even have his signature kendo stick. Credible's "signature" kendo stick? Newsflash. It was Sandman's before Credible's, and the main reason Credible started using it was because it was part of his gimmick when he was feuding with Sandman. Secondly, the way WWE works is that ONE person gets ONE gimmick, whether it's weapon, look, or finisher. Sandman gets the kendo stick.well how do you explain tommy dreamer using the kendo stick then ???<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" /><hr color="cococo" align="left">

Dreamer can do whatever he wants, he is the boss. thats why.

narc

06-16-2006, 02:44 PM

Maybe a shiwala wasn't readily available.

Tenbatsuzen

06-17-2006, 06:29 AM

cougarjake13 wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: Digger wrote: This new "ECW" is basically just another brand of WWE like RAW and Smackdown. There going to be doing this cross promo thing all the time. That squash match Kurt Angle versus Justin Credible that was a typical WWE way of doing things it made me physically ill. Justin didn't even have his signature kendo stick. Credible's "signature" kendo stick? Newsflash. It was Sandman's before Credible's, and the main reason Credible started using it was because it was part of his gimmick when he was feuding with Sandman. Secondly, the way WWE works is that ONE person gets ONE gimmick, whether it's weapon, look, or finisher. Sandman gets the kendo stick.well how do you explain tommy dreamer using the kendo stick then ???   Has Tommy used it since Sandman was a visible prescence in the new ECW?

Tenbatsuzen

06-17-2006, 06:29 AM

narc wrote: Maybe a shiwala wasn't readily available.    NICE CALLBACK.

cougarjake13

06-17-2006, 12:04 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  cougarjake13 wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote:  Digger wrote: This new "ECW" is basically just another brand of WWE like RAW and Smackdown. There going to be doing this cross promo thing all the time. That squash match Kurt Angle versus Justin Credible that was a typical WWE way of doing things it made me physically ill. Justin didn't even have his signature kendo stick.   Credible's "signature" kendo stick? Newsflash. It was Sandman's before Credible's, and the main reason Credible started using it was because it was part of his gimmick when he was feuding with Sandman. Secondly, the way WWE works is that ONE person gets ONE gimmick, whether it's weapon, look, or finisher. Sandman gets the kendo stick.well how do you explain tommy dreamer using the kendo stick then ???   Has Tommy used it since Sandman was a visible prescence in the new ECW? well he brought it out with him before foley turned on him in the supposed edge-foley hardcore rematch on raw, didnt see one night stand so i dont know if he had it there<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

Fallon

06-19-2006, 10:24 AM

Kelly and friends.<img width="648" height="486" border="0" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/kelly.jpg" />

narc

06-19-2006, 10:28 AM

I'm glad at least she figured out how to work her thong down. That's important. 
It looks like she's piddling in the sink. Like an animal. Or a baby.

JustJon

06-19-2006, 10:45 AM

Have I mentioned how much I love Kelly?

Don Stugots

06-19-2006, 03:32 PM

Fallon wrote: Kelly and friends.<img height="486" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/kelly.jpg" width="648" border="0" /> this is what you worry about when your wife gives birth to a little girl.  do i owe these chicks 20.00 now?

Hosp

06-20-2006, 06:15 AM

Well, I got my front row seats, so I am happy about that.  They really need to wow me at the live show for me to stay interested.

walking joint

06-20-2006, 06:32 AM

that is a really hot photo.  it looks like her friend has a birth control watch...i guess its easier to remember them that way.

narc

06-20-2006, 09:57 AM

I was thinking they should bring Striker over ECW. Here's why. 
1. He's a NY guy, as are most of the ECW wrestlers. 
2. His gimmick would work well in ECW. Can you imagine him trying to teach those crowds on a chalkboard? And the storylines write themselves.

Grendel_Kahn

06-20-2006, 10:24 AM

It almost seems like
they are in a no win position.  IF they just re-hashed the old
E.C.DUB.,......it wwould be called out as such and every fan would be
going on and on about what a pale knock off it is.  They try a
relaunch slowly...........pulling in some of the built in fan base from
the 2 main shows.......and it is called out as a cheap knock
off.  What, exactly, would you have them do?  This is a
business afterall, so  saying you want it in the same old small
arenas just ain't going to cut it.  And I have news for you. 
If ECW continued on, they would have been playing in bigger and bigger
venues.  So maybe it's not the ECW you remember.  But it also
may be you aren't the same fan you were.

Hosp

06-20-2006, 11:44 AM

Then don't call it ECW.  The only reason to do so, and bring back the wrestlers who were involved, is purely to build off the past fan base.  Do you think the new ECW viewer is going to care that Doring, Roadkill, or Balls Mahoney are there?  The only reason Vince even considered doing the relaunch was that all of the nostalgia products did so well.  And if you think Edge and Cena run ins are going to be what makes the new ECW succeed, your sadly mistaken. And I like the fact that the chick in the right of that pic is still trying to strike a sexy pose while her friend is pissing in a sink.  And we're only assuming it's piss, maybe they just came back from a nide meal at a Mexican restaurant.

This message was edited by Hosp on 6-20-06 @ 3:45 PM

JustJon

06-20-2006, 12:15 PM

Hosp wrote: And I like the fact that the chick in the right of that pic is still trying to strike a sexy pose while her friend is pissing in a sink. And we're only assuming it's piss, maybe they just came back from a nide meal at a Mexican restaurant.

This message was edited by Hosp on 6-20-06 @ 3:45 PM  It's the chick in the right of the pic who is pissing in the sink...

Hosp

06-20-2006, 01:34 PM

Sorry, I got confused by the mirror. And fine, I meant the left

narc

06-20-2006, 02:44 PM

The brunette definitely is. I don't know about Kelly. She does have her drawers down, and I imagine that'd be really cold if you weren't doing something.

narc

06-20-2006, 06:42 PM

Well, I guess that settles it. Test is officially coming to ECW. At least he has sort of a hardcore background, winning the hardcore title and all. Looking forward to several Test Drives.

Fallon

06-20-2006, 08:35 PM

That was a solid show tonight. Most of the WWE stuff worked well (Cena's a tool on any brand). The main event was good.

narc

06-20-2006, 09:56 PM

<hr color="cococo" align="left">JustJon wrote: narc wrote: Could they get New Jack? He's with the MTV promotion right now <hr color="cococo" align="left">

Apparently not any more.
 <a href="http://www.fhwrestling.com/home/2006/06/05/several-ecw-names-leave-mtv-wrestling-project/>http://www.fhwrestling.com/home/2006/06/05/several-ecw-names-leave-mtv-wrestling-project/</a>
 
I hope they get New Jack back on ECW. He's a crazy motherfucker.

JustJon

06-21-2006, 09:43 AM

Who was the guy who put the towel on Kelly?  I didn't recognize him and I got IMs asking me last nite.

Tenbatsuzen

06-21-2006, 10:30 AM

JustJon wrote: Who was the guy who put the towel on Kelly? I didn't recognize him and I got IMs asking me last nite.    IP lists him as Deep South Wrestling's Mike Knox.

King Imp

06-21-2006, 04:03 PM

Thank God for Mike Knox then. Don't get me wrong, I love hot women and all, but this crap is such a waste of time. I would rather watch the Sandman beating the shit out of obvious former WWE superstar ripoffs than see Kelly too retarded to know how to take her own clothes off.

Fallon

06-21-2006, 07:13 PM

King Imp wrote: Thank God for Mike Knox then. Don't get me wrong, I love hot women and all, but this crap is such a waste of time. I would rather watch the Sandman beating the shit out of obvious former WWE superstar ripoffs than see Kelly too retarded to know how to take her own clothes off.   That would be Sandmans entrance.Though they seemed to cut it short this week.

Hosp

06-22-2006, 06:09 AM

The current Sandman entrance is completely pointless.  With the old music, with an ECW crowd there was nothing that could get you more charged up.  With Muzac, and a Smackdown crowd, get him to the ring, and get it over.

willisjackson

06-22-2006, 07:15 AM

For his old entrance they had to play Enter Sandman at least twice and he killed a minimum 8 beers.  I am hoping that after vengance they will make some big ECW changes and break away from the RAW continuation that they are running now.  I think the ratings may have dropped enough to make them see that the new ECW isn't living up to the hype.  Either way, I'll keep watching and hoping to relive the ECW I remember.

asayresk

06-22-2006, 03:07 PM

take this info for what its worth, but rumor around the internet claims  that many ECW wrestlers are unhappy.I dont know what really goes on backstage, however i get a bad vibe from this new ECW just by wacthing the product. to many established stars like kurt angle and big show are getting airtime. would it hurt the wwe to give cm punk a debut macth right away, the guy isnt getting any younger.

King Imp

06-22-2006, 10:37 PM

asayresk wrote: take this info for what its worth, but rumor around the internet claims  that many ECW wrestlers are unhappy.I dont know what really goes on backstage, however i get a bad vibe from this new ECW just by wacthing the product. to many established stars like kurt angle and big show are getting airtime. would it hurt the wwe to give cm punk a debut macth right away, the guy isnt getting any younger. Unfortunately, this is the Vince-run, watered down ECW for ya. Angle and Show are going to be their main stars because they are WWE guys and the rest will just be a supporting cast that gets their asses kicked every week. This thing was doomed to fail from the beginning because Vince is clueless.

Tenbatsuzen

06-22-2006, 10:52 PM

asayresk wrote: take this info for what its worth, but rumor around the internet claims that many ECW wrestlers are unhappy.I dont know what really goes on backstage, however i get a bad vibe from this new ECW just by wacthing the product. to many established stars like kurt angle and big show are getting airtime. would it hurt the wwe to give cm punk a debut macth right away, the guy isnt getting any younger.    I claim bullshit.  They're getting a regular paycheck and a chance to be on national TV, as opposed to being on the indy circuit. Wanna get CM Punk over as an instant heel?  Sandman.  Thank you, drive through.

narc

06-22-2006, 11:21 PM

I had heard something similar but not exactly the same. I heard Heyman and the ECW guys KNEW the first show was shit because WWE demanded to make rewrites. Apparently, Sandman was supposed to assault an Alien and not a Zombie, for example. As a result, I guess, Heyman demanded full writing responsibilities and I guess he's going to be able to write the shows now without WWE interference. Nobody's happy about the continued cross-over shit, and I guess the fact that some of the ECW guys like Axel Rotten didn't end up making it back. So I think they're just sort of biding their time until the cross-over stuff ceases.

narc

06-23-2006, 04:09 AM

<hr color="cococo" align="left">asayresk wrote: take this info for what its worth, but rumor around the internet claims that many ECW wrestlers are unhappy.I dont know what really goes on backstage, however i get a bad vibe from this new ECW just by wacthing the product. to many established stars like kurt angle and big show are getting airtime. would it hurt the wwe to give cm punk a debut macth right away, the guy isnt getting any younger. <hr color="cococo" align="left">
Looks like your wish is granted. PWI is reporting that CM Punk debuts on ECW next Tuesday.

RingWraith

06-23-2006, 08:06 AM

I read a report in Steveswrestling.com that Kurt Angle was upset at being sent to ECW.  I'm not suprised.  And I'm not suprised about ECW wrestlers not happy with the start of the show.  I really hope that they can turn this around as soon as the WWE Vengence is over, but I'm not holding my breath.But I do know that as long as they tape or do live shows in front of Smackdown Fans and they're annoying looking kids, it will never be a true ECW.  It might as well be what everyone else calls it and that is "Raw Lite".

Dougie Brootal

06-23-2006, 08:24 AM

RingWraith wrote: I read a report in Steveswrestling.com that Kurt Angle was upset at being sent to ECW.  I'm not suprised.  And I'm not suprised about ECW wrestlers not happy with the start of the show.  I really hope that they can turn this around as soon as the WWE Vengence is over, but I'm not holding my breath.But I do know that as long as they tape or do live shows in front of Smackdown Fans and they're annoying looking kids, it will never be a true ECW.  It might as well be what everyone else calls it and that is "Raw Lite".i prefer the term "Diet Raw"

cougarjake13

06-23-2006, 02:15 PM

douggrasso wrote: RingWraith wrote: I read a report in Steveswrestling.com that Kurt Angle was upset at being sent to ECW.  I'm not suprised.  And I'm not suprised about ECW wrestlers not happy with the start of the show.  I really hope that they can turn this around as soon as the WWE Vengence is over, but I'm not holding my breath.But I do know that as long as they tape or do live shows in front of Smackdown Fans and they're annoying looking kids, it will never be a true ECW.  It might as well be what everyone else calls it and that is "Raw Lite".i prefer the term "Diet Raw"what about Raw junior ????<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

Don Stugots

06-23-2006, 03:05 PM

RingWraith wrote: I read a report in Steveswrestling.com that Kurt Angle was upset at being sent to ECW.  I'm not suprised.  And I'm not suprised about ECW wrestlers not happy with the start of the show.  I really hope that they can turn this around as soon as the WWE Vengence is over, but I'm not holding my breath.But I do know that as long as they tape or do live shows in front of Smackdown Fans and they're annoying looking kids, it will never be a true ECW.  It might as well be what everyone else calls it and that is "Raw Lite".yet another reason for me to hate kids.  now they are ruining ECW.  leave the kids at gramma's house for a few hours.  let the adults have something that isnt watered down for your fucking little brats.

cougarjake13

06-24-2006, 01:16 PM

i'm sure that no matter what city they're in to tape smackdown they could find a small venue in the area to tape ECW, i think the reason they dont is more people would rather go to ECW taping then a SD! but if you dont do it the same night like make SD! tapings on wednesday then you might be ok<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

narc

06-24-2006, 01:58 PM

I don't know about always doing it after Smackdown shows, but it sounds like, except for the occasional shows at the ECW arena and Hammerstein ballroom, those days are pretty much over. On the ECW website, Styles has a column this week about how great it will be to have 20K stadiums chanting ECW. It's all about money.

cougarjake13

06-25-2006, 06:35 AM

narc wrote: I don't know about always doing it after Smackdown shows, but it sounds like, except for the occasional shows at the ECW arena and Hammerstein ballroom, those days are pretty much over. On the ECW website, Styles has a column this week about how great it will be to have 20K stadiums chanting ECW. It's all about money. it's definitely about the money and even if they held the ECW tapings in another venue the same night or even on different nights we'd probably still have these lil brats who think's it's cool to chant ECW and ruin it for everyone elsei just hope they start to branch away from the raw vs ecw angle after tonights ppv and start developing new fueds and wrestlers<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

RingWraith

06-25-2006, 07:16 AM

cougarjake13 wrote: i'm sure that no matter what city they're in to tape smackdown they could find a small venue in the area to tape ECW, i think the reason they dont is more people would rather go to ECW taping then a SD! but if you dont do it the same night like make SD! tapings on wednesday then you might be ok<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />Your reason made me laugh because I think it's sooo true.  An ECW event that could out draw Smackdown event.Smackdown is so bad it's unbearable to watch for five minutes straight.  And simply hearing Michael Cole's voice makes it even worse. (He's just so corny and GAY!!!)And actually do like the other alternate names you people have mentioned about the new ECW as "Diet Raw" and "Raw Jr." instead of "Raw Lite".

Flea_Man

06-25-2006, 12:22 PM

From the house show last night report: After Van Dam heads to the back, the crowd begins to file out of the building, with quite a few people knocking over chairs and grumbling about the show. Roughly 2 minutes into filing out the building, all hell breaks loose near the entrance way as a group of about 10 people get into a wild fistfight. And do you know why they got into a fistfight ? Because a few of them had started a small John Cena cheer during Heyman's speech. And to top it off, someone recklessly throws a chair into the scuffle and ends up hitting someone that was just trying to get away from the whole situation. Security eventually breaks it all up and scatters the instigators outside. And what do you know? One of the geniuses picks ANOTHER fight right outside the building with a completely different person because of the same pro-Cena sentiment. As I said before, ECW fans are great because they're passionate about the product, but at the same time - they can also be some of the outright dumbest pieces of garbage around. Say this aloud to yourself, "There was fistfight because one guy said he liked John Cena." Sounds even dumber than when I type it.---------------ECLOL

This message was edited by Flea_Man on 6-25-06 @ 4:22 PM

asayresk

06-25-2006, 02:51 PM

Flea_Man wrote: From the house show last night report: After Van Dam heads to the back, the crowd begins to file out of the building, with quite a few people knocking over chairs and grumbling about the show. Roughly 2 minutes into filing out the building, all hell breaks loose near the entrance way as a group of about 10 people get into a wild fistfight. And do you know why they got into a fistfight ? Because a few of them had started a small John Cena cheer during Heyman's speech. And to top it off, someone recklessly throws a chair into the scuffle and ends up hitting someone that was just trying to get away from the whole situation. Security eventually breaks it all up and scatters the instigators outside. And what do you know? One of the geniuses picks ANOTHER fight right outside the building with a completely different person because of the same pro-Cena sentiment. As I said before, ECW fans are great because they're passionate about the product, but at the same time - they can also be some of the outright dumbest pieces of garbage around. Say this aloud to yourself, "There was fistfight because one guy said he liked John Cena." Sounds even dumber than when I type it.--------------- Vince wants  to go mainstream with the ECW brand at the expense of true ECW fans. Im not supporting the beating of John Cena fans but at least the ECW fans are being true to the legacy of ECW by creating some controversy wheter its good or bad. although i got to admit, this is wrestling it not that serious.This message was edited by Flea_Man on 6-25-06 @ 4:22 PM

WHIT(EE)ARL

06-26-2006, 12:34 AM

its does'nt feel like the real ecw anymore

Don Stugots

06-26-2006, 02:13 AM

i guess we all knew that in the end it wouldnt, but we hoped for the best anyway. 

RingWraith

06-26-2006, 07:13 PM

Well, looks like the cross-over will continue now that Edge said he'll see RVD tomorrow.  Looks like "Raw Lite" will continue.

Fallon

06-26-2006, 07:47 PM

Yeah, I was hoping RVD would just drop the WWE title at Vengeance or RAW and then everyone could move on. But, nope.

Fallon

06-26-2006, 07:50 PM

WWE Championship match announced
In a Triple Threat Match for the WWE Championship, it will be Rob Van Dam vs. Edge vs. John Cena at Saturday Night's Main Event on July 15 on NBC.
FUCK!!!

Hagar

06-27-2006, 09:32 AM

a little late but fucking crazy about ECW back and close to the original. few places ide rather be then in south philly on a saturday night in an abandoned bingo hall. sabu fan since day 1.<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/bobogolem/hagar.jpg" border="0" />

cougarjake13

06-27-2006, 04:04 PM

Fallon wrote: WWE Championship match announced In a Triple Threat Match for the WWE Championship, it will be Rob Van Dam vs. Edge vs. John Cena at Saturday Night's Main Event on July 15 on NBC. FUCK!!! and i hate to say it but since the belt is still in it's cena spinner form i'm thinking its going back to cena, at least that's the way it happened last time when edge had it for a few weeks<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

CYYYFYYY

06-27-2006, 08:32 PM

EcW showed alot of signs of improvement but there are a few things that scare me. 1.  Is there only going to be one no DQ no COUNTOUT match a week and the rest are regular matches.  That is the impression I got.  2.  Can Styles and Tazz stop recapping what we just saw.

CYYYFYYY

06-27-2006, 09:22 PM

3.  Also I am a tad worried that Van Dam did not use a chair in his match vs Angle which supports my theory that there will only be one ECW match during and ECW televised event which does not make all that much sense.

narc

06-28-2006, 09:34 AM

I don't know if I'm hallucinating or not, but I thought they used slightly different music for Sandman last night - a little closer to the actual "Enter Sandman" but obviously not that. Why do you think they can't use "Enter Sandman?" Is it a licensing thing?

Don Stugots

06-28-2006, 10:00 AM

the show is getting better but do we really need the wasting of almost 15 mins with the strip tease?  we know she isnt getting naked or even topless.  lets move on and get back to the action?  Honestly unless she is going to pee in a sink, keep her off.  the knox guy stinks on ice.  bring in some tag teams, the BwO, and make all the matches "ecw" rules. 

willisjackson

06-28-2006, 10:09 AM

STUGOTS1 wrote:  and make all the matches "ecw" rules.  They shouldn't even call it ECW rules on the show, it should just be the rules.  I guess they are just trying to ease the new fans in.

King Imp

06-28-2006, 01:52 PM

That whole having to overemphasize the match as being "extreme rules" annoys the hell out of me. You stupid fuck Vince, all of ECW is "extreme rules!" There is no such thing as a DQ or countout in ECW! They have made a complete mockery of this whole thing. They really need to get away from the WWE fans. That was absolutely pathetic hearing "We want Cena" in the middle of the Angle-RVD match. Get a clue assholes! As for that Kelly crap, I fast forward through it. Killer ass, but a major waste of time. Like Tenbats said previously, this whole thing is basically a copy of Kimona's "dance on top of the ECW Arena." It's like they don't get the reasoning behind that. It was basically only done to stop a riot that was going to happen because the fans were getting pissed off. It wasn't just to show some clueless exhibitionist. Now, was that male stripper supposed to be someone? The Zombie was supposed to be a mock of the Warrior and Macho Libre was a mock of Savage. Just wondering if this fat fuck was supposed to be someone. 

This message was edited by King Imp on 6-28-06 @ 5:53 PM

cougarjake13

06-28-2006, 02:00 PM

King Imp wrote:  Now, was that male stripper supposed to be someone? The Zombie was supposed to be a mock of the Warrior and Macho Libre was a mock of Savage. Just wondering if this fat fuck was supposed to be someone. well other than him showing up on raw a few weeks ago for mcmahon courtesy of dx he's prob anobody<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

narc

06-28-2006, 04:59 PM

I wonder if they're going to expand the time slot after this summer, which is apparently a trial period. But I can't see them not being renewed based on the ratings they've gotten for SciFi so far. 
I also wonder when SuperCrazy is going to be back with them. Based on the whole breakup of the Mexicools, it can't be long....

Rodan

06-29-2006, 02:22 AM

From <a href="http://www.gerweck.net/"> Gerweck.net</a>Chris Johnson reporting: Dave Sherer reports that a meeting was held before last night's Smackdown/ECW taping with Vince McMahon, Kevin Dunn, and Paul Heyman. The decision has been made to pretty much break away from all the old ECW characters, ideas, and style of booking. The new plan is to make the show a full fledged third C brand of the WWE. Vince McMahon was really let down by the reaction of the crowd at the ECW Arena house show, last week's 15% ratings drop, and the so far low ticket sales for the Smackdown/ECW tapings especially for the July 4th taping at the Wachovia Center. Those things were said to be huge factors in this decision. Paul Heyman now has even less control over the product while Tommy Dreamer has none. Heyman did script last night's show but alot of it was re-written by the WWE writers. Also for the first two weeks Heyman was in charge of running the shows backstage but that all changed last night as the show was ran pretty much like the usual for Raw and Smackdown. Mike Johnson reports that a decision has been made starting with last night's taping to only fly in the ECW wrestlers that are scripted to work on the show. Only for the house show events will the entire roster be flown in. In addition to that for some odd reason the WWE Tag Team champions Paul London & Brian Kendrick weren't even flown in for last night's tapings. Johnson reports as well that the old ECW referees are expected to get the axe very soon much like former ECW ring announcer Stephen D'angelous did last week. 

This message was edited by Rodan on 6-29-06 @ 6:22 AM

Don Stugots

06-29-2006, 02:25 AM

Rodan wrote:      From <a href="http://www.gerweck.net/"> Gerweck.net</a>Chris Johnson reporting: Dave Sherer reports that a meeting was held before last night's Smackdown/ECW taping with Vince McMahon, Kevin Dunn, and Paul Heyman. The decision has been made to pretty much break away from all the old ECW characters, ideas, and style of booking. The new plan is to make the show a full fledged third C brand of the WWE. Vince McMahon was really let down by the reaction of the crowd at the ECW Arena house show, last week's 15% ratings drop, and the so far low ticket sales for the Smackdown/ECW tapings especially for the July 4th taping at the Wachovia Center. Those things were said to be huge factors in this decision. Paul Heyman now has even less control over the product while Tommy Dreamer has none. Heyman did script last night's show but alot of it was re-written by the WWE writers. Also for the first two weeks Heyman was in charge of running the shows backstage but that all changed last night as the show was ran pretty much like the usual for Raw and Smackdown. Mike Johnson reports that a decision has been made starting with last night's taping to only fly in the ECW wrestlers that are scripted to work on the show. Only for the house show events will the entire roster be flown in. In addition to that for some odd reason the WWE Tag Team champions Paul London & Brian Kendrick weren't even flown in for last night's tapings. Johnson reports as well that the old ECW referees are expected to get the axe very soon much like former ECW ring announcer Stephen D'angelous did last week. This message was edited by Rodan on 6-29-06 @ 6:22 AM yep, its over Johnny.

Crippler

06-29-2006, 04:46 AM

So Vince gave the whole project a grand total of two weeks on its' own (almost) before taking the reigns?  Nicely done, Vinny Mac...you wanna kick my dog while you're at it?

Dougie Brootal

06-29-2006, 06:02 AM

<img src="http://audio.ya.com/webbobdylan/essential.jpg" border="0" /> its all over now, baby blue... Rodan wrote:      From <a href="http://www.gerweck.net/"> Gerweck.net</a>Chris Johnson reporting: Dave Sherer reports that a meeting was held before last night's Smackdown/ECW taping with Vince McMahon, Kevin Dunn, and Paul Heyman. The decision has been made to pretty much break away from all the old ECW characters, ideas, and style of booking. The new plan is to make the show a full fledged third C brand of the WWE. Vince McMahon was really let down by the reaction of the crowd at the ECW Arena house show, last week's 15% ratings drop, and the so far low ticket sales for the Smackdown/ECW tapings especially for the July 4th taping at the Wachovia Center. Those things were said to be huge factors in this decision. Paul Heyman now has even less control over the product while Tommy Dreamer has none. Heyman did script last night's show but alot of it was re-written by the WWE writers. Also for the first two weeks Heyman was in charge of running the shows backstage but that all changed last night as the show was ran pretty much like the usual for Raw and Smackdown. Mike Johnson reports that a decision has been made starting with last night's taping to only fly in the ECW wrestlers that are scripted to work on the show. Only for the house show events will the entire roster be flown in. In addition to that for some odd reason the WWE Tag Team champions Paul London & Brian Kendrick weren't even flown in for last night's tapings. Johnson reports as well that the old ECW referees are expected to get the axe very soon much like former ECW ring announcer Stephen D'angelous did last week. This message was edited by Rodan on 6-29-06 @ 6:22 AM

JustJon

06-29-2006, 07:50 AM

Does WWE not understand that their version of ECW is fairly bland, unispired and just a third show to put WWE talent over talent unknown to WWE fans?ECW needs to live or die on its own or it won't last the summer.

narc

06-29-2006, 08:32 AM

My question is what are they going to do with Test when he comes back? I mean, he doesn't have Stacy Keibler or Big Poppa Pump to pal around with anymore.

Dougie Brootal

06-29-2006, 08:44 AM

JustJon wrote: Does WWE not understand that their version of ECW is fairly bland, unispired and just a third show to put WWE talent over talent unknown to WWE fans?ECW needs to live or die on its own or it won't last the summer. i think that vince just wants to "prove to the world" that ecw is a "fluke" and "cant stand on its own without him."

King Imp

06-29-2006, 09:04 AM

douggrasso wrote: JustJon wrote: Does WWE not understand that their version of ECW is fairly bland, unispired and just a third show to put WWE talent over talent unknown to WWE fans?ECW needs to live or die on its own or it won't last the summer. i think that vince just wants to "prove to the world" that ecw is a "fluke" and "cant stand on its own without him."Exactly! Vince's ego is so fragile that he can't handle the idea of someone being better at him at something. He is scared to death that this ECW would flourish and overshadow his WWE shows and he can't deal with that. Just like how he had to hold down the WCW guys when they came over. Vince needed to "prove" that his guys were superior. He really is a fucking clueless asshole.

walking joint

06-29-2006, 09:28 AM

but a rich clueless asshole.  so its not all bad for him.

K5Banger

06-29-2006, 09:54 AM

You know all i gotta say is FUCK Vince, we all know that Paul is NOT going to have total control of ECW,  its just another extension of WWE monday night raw,  Vince will NOT let these guys get there shine on by themselves.  I miss WCW alot, but i'm glad he didnt try this with them, look how he fucked up the Invasion angle.  Wrestling is so damn stale right now, bringing back DX total mistake, 2 guys that are over the hill trying to act like kids, they need to bring in young talent to run with these guys so itsa much better angle. BUt all in all, ECW will be run by Vince not Paul, and its still gonna suck just like RAW p.s.GIVE SABU A TITLE RUN

This message was edited by K5Banger on 6-29-06 @ 1:56 PM

Dougie Brootal

06-29-2006, 10:07 AM

K5Banger wrote: p.s.GIVE SABU A TITLE RUNThis message was edited by K5Banger on 6-29-06 @ 1:56 PM  i wish. but we all know it will look like this after SNME...<img height="352" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/91/CenaNewTitle.jpg" width="456" border="0" />

Digger

06-29-2006, 04:01 PM

Does anyone else get the impression that vinny macs ECW is nothing more than a big joke.? Now that Paul E. has next to no power in this, and Tommy Dreamer is totaly out of the picture vince is going to turn it into televised OVW. Soon little by little what little ECW guys there are will start to disappear being replaced by OVW wanna be wrestlers. After seeing this abortion I would have been satisfied with one nostalgic pay per view a year. Leave it to Vincent Kennedy McMahon to Fuck something up, first it was football now ECW. ECW was better dead and buried.

Don Stugots

06-29-2006, 04:15 PM

walking joint wrote: but a rich clueless asshole.  so its not all bad for him. not for him, but for all of us, thats another story

narc

06-29-2006, 06:03 PM

<hr color="cococo" align="left">Rodan wrote: From <a href="http://www.gerweck.net/"> Gerweck.net</a>Chris Johnson reporting: Dave Sherer reports that a meeting was held before last night's Smackdown/ECW taping with Vince McMahon, Kevin Dunn, and Paul Heyman. The decision has been made to pretty much break away from all the old ECW characters, ideas, and style of booking. The new plan is to make the show a full fledged third C brand of the WWE. Vince McMahon was really let down by the reaction of the crowd at the ECW Arena house show, last week's 15% ratings drop, and the so far low ticket sales for the Smackdown/ECW tapings especially for the July 4th taping at the Wachovia Center. Those things were said to be huge factors in this decision. Paul Heyman now has even less control over the product while Tommy Dreamer has none. Heyman did script last night's show but alot of it was re-written by the WWE writers. Also for the first two weeks Heyman was in charge of running the shows backstage but that all changed last night as the show was ran pretty much like the usual for Raw and Smackdown. Mike Johnson reports that a decision has been made starting with last night's taping to only fly in the ECW wrestlers that are scripted to work on the show. Only for the house show events will the entire roster be flown in. In addition to that for some odd reason the WWE Tag Team champions Paul London & Brian Kendrick weren't even flown in for last night's tapings. Johnson reports as well that the old ECW referees are expected to get the axe very soon much like former ECW ring announcer Stephen D'angelous did last week. 

This message was edited by Rodan on 6-29-06 @ 6:22 AM<hr color="cococo" align="left">

From this report it seems like London and Kendrick are either huge stars or are getting shit on. I'm not sure which. They are the only reason to watch Smackdown now.

cougarjake13

06-30-2006, 03:59 PM

i never noticed it on raw or smackdown shows but during the entire ECW show there's an ECW icon in the lower left of the screen , almost as if its there to remind you that you're watching what they consider to be ECW and not raw or SD!<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

JesterOfSadness

07-03-2006, 10:27 AM

<a href="http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2006_/articles/1151947221.php">http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2006_/articles/1151947221.php</a>I could be wrong, but this doesnt look good for Sabu and RVD

JustJon

07-03-2006, 10:52 AM

The lynch pins of your new promotion and the heavyweight champion of your company...  good jorb.

Tenbatsuzen

07-03-2006, 10:56 AM

JustJon wrote: The lynch pins of your new promotion and the heavyweight champion of your company... good jorb.    If this was 'roids or the Horse, I could see the problem, but Vicodin (as long as he had a prescrip) and weed?  Christ, RVD's entire character is built around smoking up. Well, that and disrespect.

Fallon

07-03-2006, 11:00 AM

Nobody gets higher than ROB... VAN... DAM!!!

cougarjake13

07-03-2006, 12:19 PM

JesterOfSadness wrote: <a href="http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2006_/articles/1151947221.php">http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2006_/articles/1151947221.php</a>I could be wrong, but this doesnt look good for Sabu and RVDfrom the articleSzatowski, of Battle Creek, Mich., has had a long, successful career with both the WWE and ECW. In addition to being the current champion of both, he has been intercontinental champion six times, hardcore champion four times and has been a part of several championship tag team duos.isn't it redundant to say tag team duos ???<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

JustJon

07-03-2006, 12:23 PM

Weren't the Fabulous Freebirds a tag team trio?

cougarjake13

07-03-2006, 12:56 PM

JustJon wrote: Weren't the Fabulous Freebirds a tag team trio? yeh they were .... michael hayes, terry gordy & buddy roberts <a href="http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/profiles/f/freebirds.html">http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/profiles/f/freebirds.html</a><img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

Don Stugots

07-03-2006, 01:00 PM

If RVD and SABU are fired for the drug arrests, it is safe to say that the new ECW would be finished.  Would the two of them go to TNA and form a Hardcore stable with the Dudleys?  Would adding them to the TNA roster give the company some credibility?  Does the WWE give them a slap on the wrist?

Tenbatsuzen

07-03-2006, 01:34 PM

cougarjake13 wrote: JesterOfSadness wrote: <a href="http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2006_/articles/1151947221.php">http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2006_/articles/1151947221.php</a>I could be wrong, but this doesnt look good for Sabu and RVDfrom the articleSzatowski, of Battle Creek, Mich., has had a long, successful career with both the WWE and ECW. In addition to being the current champion of both, he has been intercontinental champion six times, hardcore champion four times and has been a part of several championship tag team duos.isn't it redundant to say tag team duos ???    Spirit Squad, and I think there was a three-man championship back in the day.

narc

07-03-2006, 01:36 PM

Isn't this part of the problem with marketing ECW to kids? Now they have to suspend them because the kids look up to them. 
Awaiting Stugots's kid-induced rage filled response.

cougarjake13

07-03-2006, 01:50 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  cougarjake13 wrote: JesterOfSadness wrote: <a href="http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2006_/articles/1151947221.php">http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2006_/articles/1151947221.php</a>I could be wrong, but this doesnt look good for Sabu and RVDfrom the articleSzatowski, of Battle Creek, Mich., has had a long, successful career with both the WWE and ECW. In addition to being the current champion of both, he has been intercontinental champion six times, hardcore champion four times and has been a part of several championship tag team duos.isn't it redundant to say tag team duos ???Spirit Squad, and I think there was a three-man championship back in the day.  yeh there's 5 guys in the spirit squad but only 2 are the champs and they hardly wrestle any tag teams but when they do the 2 that are champs are the ones that wrestle, yeh the others may interfere but thats no different then when flair and batista were tag champs and trips and orton would interferebut my point was all he needed to say was he was part of several championship tag teams, and leave it at that, we didnt need the duos added to understand the sentence<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

cougarjake13

07-03-2006, 01:56 PM

STUGOTS1 wrote: If RVD and SABU are fired for the drug arrests, it is safe to say that the new ECW would be finished.  Would the two of them go to TNA and form a Hardcore stable with the Dudleys?  Would adding them to the TNA roster give the company some credibility?  Does the WWE give them a slap on the wrist? i truly doubt either will be fired, there may be some suspensions but if vince is really interested in making ECW work then there's no way he fires them.if they were they might go to TNA but i dont think they'd form a stable, Sabu was already in TNA but it wasnt as a full time wrestler, he'd come in for a month to build up a match for the next ppv and then go off to somewhere else, and after his recent singles success i cant see rob becoming part of a stableobviously this is all speculation and guess work on my part <img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

Fallon

07-03-2006, 02:53 PM

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h281/WWFallon/rvdsabu.gif

Don Stugots

07-03-2006, 03:13 PM

narc wrote: Isn't this part of the problem with marketing ECW to kids? Now they have to suspend them because the kids look up to them. Awaiting Stugots's kid-induced rage filled response. Narc, i am sorry i kept you waiting, i was enjoying the pool and the sun.  my tan looks great.  Since i am in a very good mood, very relaxed, etc, all i will say is "FUCK THESE KIDS.  They need someone to look up to?  go find your fathers and mothers.  Go look up to Jeter and A-Rod."  i sorry if my rage wasnt to standards set in my previous rants on children but like i said, i am very relaxed this weekend.  must be the fact that i am off until Wednesday.  i will weigh in on this issue again on Thursday or Friday.  At that time, work will be picking up and I will my old intense kid hating venom spewing abortion supporting self.  deal?

Tenbatsuzen

07-04-2006, 10:26 AM

Here's a dumb question. RVD was speeding, and the probable cause for the search was "the smell of marijuana smoke" - but he wasn't cited for Driving Under the Influence, which I thought would be a given considering the initial PC was that he was smoking up. Something's up here.

Tenbatsuzen

07-04-2006, 10:27 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Here's a dumb question. RVD was speeding, and the probable cause for the search was "the smell of marijuana smoke" - but he wasn't cited for Driving Under the Influence, which I thought would be a given considering the initial PC was that he was smoking up. Something's up here.    ...unless Sabu was the one who was smoking, but they found the pot on RVD.

narc

07-04-2006, 11:10 AM

Maybe they just decided not to charge him with DUI. 18 grams is a lot of pot for mere possession, and I doubt whomever would look favorably on that during sentencing.

Tenbatsuzen

07-04-2006, 11:20 AM

narc wrote: Maybe they just decided not to charge him with DUI. 18 grams is a lot of pot for mere possession, and I doubt whomever would look favorably on that during sentencing.    If someone is intoxicated, you don't let them post bond on the spot and let them drive away, which is what the story indicated they did. If a driver is impaired, and the cop lets him go, and he ends up killing someone, then the cop has a problem.

Don Stugots

07-04-2006, 06:08 PM

Cool, the Big Show will be ECW champ.  i like that idea. Enough with the cock teasing whore and her boyfriend.  please just wrestle.

DirtyJersey

07-04-2006, 06:19 PM

How do they expect people to get into this version of ECW when the first match of the night sucks?Also, can these f'n crowds be any more dull and clueless as to who everyone is. It is the f'n opposite of an old ECW crowd. I hate this new version, I HATE IT! They have killed ECW. Im sorry I just get emotional over my favorite wrestling franchise becoming absolute garbage.

This message was edited by DirtyJersey on 7-4-06 @ 10:27 PM

Fallon

07-04-2006, 06:24 PM

Is anyone tuning in and saying "I wonder who Sandman will beat up next?!!!".

Didn't think so.

Don Stugots

07-04-2006, 06:32 PM

DirtyJersey wrote: How do they expect people to get into this version of ECW when the first match of the night sucks?Also, can these f'n crowds be any more dull and clueless as to who everyone is. It is the f'n opposite of an old ECW crowd. I hate this new version, I HATE IT! They have killed ECW. Im sorry I just get emotional over my favorite wrestling franchise becoming absolute garbage.This message was edited by DirtyJersey on 7-4-06 @ 10:27 PM same here my friend.

narc

07-04-2006, 06:40 PM

At least we got to see Charles Montgomery Punk.

Fallon

07-04-2006, 07:11 PM

Gey.

JoeYaDeadHomey

07-04-2006, 07:24 PM

hooray for cm punk. test?  heyman turning, big show as champ THAS NOT KOOL. im fucking done.

Crippler

07-04-2006, 07:26 PM

Well, at least they didn't make RVD job to Test on his first night back.Goodbye ECW Mach II, we barely knew thee.

DirtyJersey

07-04-2006, 07:32 PM

This new ECW is so bad I can see it becoming a punchline in the future when referring to other awful things in life. As in,  "This is almost as bad as that time ECW came back on the sci-fi channel".

This message was edited by DirtyJersey on 7-4-06 @ 11:34 PM

Tenbatsuzen

07-04-2006, 08:52 PM

DirtyJersey wrote: This new ECW is so bad I can see it becoming a punchline in the future when referring to other awful things in life. As in, "This is almost as bad as that time ECW came back on the sci-fi channel".

This message was edited by DirtyJersey on 7-4-06 @ 11:34 PM   It's already eclipsed the WBF.  It's closing in on XFL territory (and I've always thought that the XFL was severely villified.)

epo

07-04-2006, 10:06 PM

Unfortunately with the VanDamn/Sabu issues....the Paul E heel turn is the only way to work it to the crowds.  As long as Paul E is writing it...I'll give him a couple of weeks to sell me on the issue. 

abortedfetus

07-05-2006, 12:02 AM

narc wrote: Maybe they just decided not to charge him with DUI. 18 grams is a lot of pot for mere possession, and I doubt whomever would look favorably on that during sentencing. I severely hope you are kidding when you say 18 grams of marijuana is a lot for mere possession.

narc

07-05-2006, 04:14 AM

<hr color="cococo" align="left">abortedfetus wrote: narc wrote: Maybe they just decided not to charge him with DUI. 18 grams is a lot of pot for mere possession, and I doubt whomever would look favorably on that during sentencing. I severely hope you are kidding when you say 18 grams of marijuana is a lot for mere possession.<hr color="cococo" align="left">
In Ohio, you'd definitely be right. In MD, DC or in Virginia, where I'm more familiar with, you can be charged with distribution if you have ANY pot, and if you have any pot, you're at least looking at jailtime/$1,000 fine. I worked with a lot of criminal defendants in the past year and most of them had way less than 18 grams. 
This may be too deep, but it truly seems like WWE treats RAW like Heaven, Smackdown like Purgatory, and ECW like Hell. Sort of an apt analogy if you think about it.



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JoeYaDeadHomey

07-05-2006, 04:39 AM

i realized what its become...  www.wrestlecrap.com

Flea_Man

07-05-2006, 05:14 AM

CM Punk rules.

asayresk

07-05-2006, 05:19 AM

looks like i stop wacthing this new ecw at the right time. big show is the ecw champ, thats bullshit. just because rvd smokes a little weed doesnt make him a bad person. Big show as ecw champion is worse then wcw putting the belt around david arquette. this new ecw has jumped the shark. as a loyal ecw fan i would rather them put ecw out of commision for good  rather then  wwe  using the ecw name and some how brainwashing the public on what ecw truley was. For any new ecw fans, what you see today is not close to what ecw was at it best or worst. ecw at it worst was ten times better then the wwe version of ecw.

Digger

07-05-2006, 06:06 AM

In regards to this bastardization of ECW with that pile of elephant shit Big Show being ECW champ that's not cool, and that dumbass Paul Heyman for even thinking that Vince was going to let Paul have any control over this endeavour at all. I really don't want to say anything bad about Kelly she's a teen and everything sounds better with teen in front of it like teen cock tease. Did everyone see hat guy was there. To  sum all this up I can only say this "would somebody put these retards out of there misery.".

narc

07-05-2006, 08:42 AM

RVD will get a slap on the wrist. That's probably why he's only getting a 30 day suspension. 
<a href="http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?wtm_view=&Group_ID=4557">http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?wtm_view=&Group_ID=4557</a>
Does anyone know what they were chanting last night? I heard the "You take Steroids" directed at Test. But I couldn't make out exactly what they were chanting at RVD other than "marijuana"

JustJon

07-05-2006, 09:33 AM

The Philly crowd made last night barely watchable.  They were shitting on all the crappy matches (like the opening one). It's bad that I want to see some good, old school style ECW matches and the only thing I even find watchable is Kelly Kelly, and even that is passable (Matt Knox blows goats and can't wrestle).And I like the alternative history they gave to Al Snow and head.  Leaving out the real reason for Head.

Hagar

07-05-2006, 10:37 AM

this new brand of ECW is predictable, which is totally opposite of the oriignal orginazation. why the fuck does every show have that beutiful cunt strip then her "boyfriend cover her up before we see" and the sandman beat up some one night only new charecter. they all happening during the same timeseach week. this cant be Paul's planning. This is awful an i pray that they correct it. looks like a crash before takeoff. FUCK<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/bobogolem/hagar.jpg" border="0" />

BrownTown

07-05-2006, 11:02 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: If this was 'roids or the Horse, I could see the problem, but Vicodin (as long as he had a prescrip) and weed?  Christ, RVD's entire character is built around smoking up.Ask Brian Christopher & The Road Dogg if the WWE is accepting of weed. Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that RVD's getting fired. Just that Paul "I made $$$ selling 'RVD 4:20' shirts" Heyman isn't the one making the decision. That lies with an organization that has historically come down hard on pot-heads (and oddly is lenient on guys that shit in other people's gym bags).

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Don Stugots

07-05-2006, 11:16 AM

narc wrote: RVD will get a slap on the wrist. That's probably why he's only getting a 30 day suspension. <a href="http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?wtm_view=&Group_ID=4557">http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?wtm_view=&Group_ID=4557</a>Does anyone know what they were chanting last night? I heard the "You take Steroids" directed at Test. But I couldn't make out exactly what they were chanting at RVD other than "marijuana" while they were throwing soda cups at Heyen and The Big Show they were chanting "you sold out."  Is the popular opinion that Paul should have stood his ground and keep the belt on RVD?

DirtyJersey

07-05-2006, 11:57 AM

STUGOTS1 wrote: Is the popular opinion that Paul should have stood his ground and keep the belt on RVD?Paul mustve wanted RVD to keep the belt. It had to be the corporate jackasses at WWE that gave The Big Show the belt. Paul knew what he had with the original ECW, this has to be killing him to watch this abomination. Its actually sad to watch what ECW has become, "Big Show has the ECW belt". That might be the saddest sentence I've ever typed. RIP ECW.

Iamnotatool

07-05-2006, 12:43 PM

They couldn't keep it on RVD.  I think people are just pissed it wasn't Sabu, or some other ECW bigguy to take it.  But, the show last night was better then the week before.  BARELY watchable, but better.  Gotta hold out hope.

Don Stugots

07-05-2006, 01:00 PM

would Angle have been better?  since no one in ECW is established on WWE tv yet, it seemed unlikly that they would take the chance on them.  While Sandman is established in ECW, i dont see the WWE taking a chance on him.  plus, in ring ability wise all we have seen him do is beat the hell out of some ass for the last few weeks.  I could have seen them giving the belt to dreamer.  thus setting up a dreamer big show match for next week that wouldnt be a squash but would have a clear finish either.  the fued could have gone on for a few weeks like the elminators/gangstas fued did.

abortedfetus

07-05-2006, 01:27 PM

narc wrote: RVD will get a slap on the wrist. That's probably why he's only getting a 30 day suspension. <a href="http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?wtm_view=&Group_ID=4557">http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?wtm_view=&Group_ID=4557</a>Does anyone know what they were chanting last night? I heard the "You take Steroids" directed at Test. But I couldn't make out exactly what they were chanting at RVD other than "marijuana" I appreciate the Ohio link!

jhawk57

07-05-2006, 04:05 PM

Has anyone else heard the  rumor of Kurt Angle being suspended 30 days? Just a rumor, but interesting.

narc

07-05-2006, 04:33 PM

I heard he's just taking time off to rehab some injuries.

DirtyJersey

07-05-2006, 11:26 PM

Iamnotatool wrote: They couldn't keep it on RVD.  I think people are just pissed it wasn't Sabu, or some other ECW bigguy to take it.  I think thats what pisses me off the most. I'll tolerate Big Show on Raw but to just waltz in and get the belt for something as sacred as ECW, thats what kills me.

JustJon

07-06-2006, 09:32 AM

Iamnotatool wrote: They couldn't keep it on RVD. I think people are just pissed it wasn't Sabu, or some other ECW bigguy to take it. But, the show last night was better then the week before. BARELY watchable, but better. Gotta hold out hope.  The problem is who would they put it on?Angle - rehabbingSabu - same prob as RVDRVD - WWE drug policyDreamer - can't work a full program anymoreSandman - doesn't wrestle.  Just destroys bad characters What other established guys are in ECW that WWE can see as a top tier for that program?

cougarjake13

07-06-2006, 12:43 PM

JustJon wrote:  Iamnotatool wrote: They couldn't keep it on RVD. I think people are just pissed it wasn't Sabu, or some other ECW bigguy to take it. But, the show last night was better then the week before. BARELY watchable, but better. Gotta hold out hope.   The problem is who would they put it on?Angle - rehabbingSabu - same prob as RVDRVD - WWE drug policyDreamer - can't work a full program anymoreSandman - doesn't wrestle.  Just destroys bad characters What other established guys are in ECW that WWE can see as a top tier for that program? well lets look at this way, we all know this is in reaction to the shit that went down over the weekend, and there's prob no other way that big show will have ever got the ecw belt, and if everything gets settled and RVD serves his 30 day suspension , he'll prob get the belt back or maybe we'll get lucky and someone new gets its like a cm punk<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

JustJon

07-07-2006, 08:29 AM

maybe we'll get lucky and someone new gets its like a cm punkThe problem with that is that he isn't seen as having paid his dues.  No one ever walks off the street and gets a title from the WWE, you need to earn that spot.

Dougie Brootal

07-07-2006, 08:52 AM

maybe we'll get lucky and someone new gets its like a cm punk we'll be lucky if vince dies and mysteriously leaves his empire to Paul Heyman, who immediately reinstates RVD and gives him the belt back. and they crucify john cena like Raven did Sandman so many years ago except this time do it for real, nails and all.  and light it on fire.    and not apologize.          and they fire coach.

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narc

07-07-2006, 08:58 AM

<hr color="cococo" align="left">douggrasso wrote: maybe we'll get lucky and someone new gets its like a cm punk we'll be lucky if vince dies and mysteriously leaves his empire to Paul Heyman, who immediately reinstates RVD and gives him the belt back. and they crucify john cena like Raven did Sandman so many years ago except this time do it for real, nails and all. and light it on fire. and not apologize. and they fire coach.

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Unless you're Carlito. He won the IC in his debut. 
Apparently Sabu doesn't get the same thing as RVD. No suspension. Only a $1,000 fine. Which means they must think he did way less than RVD.

JustJon

07-07-2006, 09:21 AM

Ok, I should change that to world title, since everyone is going to cite IC, hardcore and Euro champs...

cougarjake13

07-07-2006, 11:35 AM

JustJon wrote: Ok, I should change that to world title, since everyone is going to cite IC, hardcore and Euro champs...  yeh good idea cause i was gonna bring up nitro who was all but handed the tag belt and now the ic belt and carlito won the us championship in his wwe debut and then won the ic belt in his debut on raw

JustJon

07-07-2006, 12:28 PM

I knew what I meant.  I'm just insulted you didn't read my mind and know exactly what I was thinking.

narc

07-09-2006, 04:42 PM

This week will be a title match between Show and Sabu. I personally think they're just going to build up so they can give it to Dreamer. Unless he actually can't work a full show anymore.

cougarjake13

07-10-2006, 06:17 PM

narc wrote: This week will be a title match between Show and Sabu. I personally think they're just going to build up so they can give it to Dreamer. Unless he actually can't work a full show anymore. with the way the wwe has been lately i wouldnt be surprised if test gets the belt before sabu or dreamer<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

cougarjake13

07-10-2006, 06:42 PM

narc wrote: This week will be a title match between Show and Sabu. I personally think they're just going to build up so they can give it to Dreamer. Unless he actually can't work a full show anymore. apparently its now going to be big show vs ric flair for the ecw championship after tonights events on raw and the bastardization of ecw continues

narc

07-10-2006, 06:44 PM

Yeah, it's done now.

cougarjake13

07-10-2006, 06:48 PM

narc wrote: Yeah, it's done now. its done in the eyes of most fans.. but vince will milk this cow for as long as he can

willisjackson

07-11-2006, 04:40 AM

I thought they would pull away from the cross promotion and try to develop some ECW story lines and matches.  I would rather watch TNA than ECW at this point; at least their show isn't one big promo for RAW.

cougarjake13

07-11-2006, 01:20 PM

willisjackson wrote: I thought they would pull away from the cross promotion and try to develop some ECW story lines and matches.  I would rather watch TNA than ECW at this point; at least their show isn't one big promo for RAW.you know i was starting to feel that way about ECW too but its still early maybe by end of summer they'll have enough time invested in new charactersand god please dont let flair be the new ecw champion<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

willisjackson

07-12-2006, 07:10 AM

ECW 2006= Smackdown with a better time slotWhat happened to "ECW: No Rules, No gimmicks"  Now it's the exact opposite

RingWraith

07-12-2006, 09:57 AM

willisjackson wrote: ECW 2006= Smackdown with a better time slotWhat happened to "ECW: No Rules, No gimmicks"  Now it's the exact oppositeThey're only doing one or two "Extreme Rules" matches per show.  I know it's lame but what do expect from Vince.  I mean, God-forbid he let Heyman run ECW in small venues, be an alternative to Raw/Smackdown, and let Heyman have the freedom to book his own style of show.I still would call this show "Raw-Lite" since most of the cross-over is with Raw Wrestlers.  Besides, nothings worse than Smackdown with Michael "F**king" Cole!!!!

JustJon

07-12-2006, 10:07 AM

I think we saw the start of ECW's in house storyline with Tommy Dreamer leading the "hardcore" ECW guys against the evil sell-out Paul Heyman.  If they build that up, I think it could really launch them into a self-contained promotion.

soundboardfan

07-12-2006, 01:20 PM

I just read that the EC F'N W shirts are being pulled because Vince is worried about losing advertising.  I think that is the biggest difference, they didn't care before because the show was shot on a camcorder and had 0 budget.

Don Stugots

07-12-2006, 01:29 PM

i like seeing the look of sickened and horror on the faces of the mommies in the crowd while flair went hardcore and busted show's head wide open and painted the place red.  Stay home next time and take your kid too.  i want more of this and less of the soccer mom, kiddy friendly watered down smackdown crap.

RingWraith

07-12-2006, 08:05 PM

STUGOTS1 wrote:  i like seeing the look of sickened and horror on the faces of the mommies in the crowd while flair went hardcore and busted show's head wide open and painted the place red.  Stay home next time and take your kid too.  i want more of this and less of the soccer mom, kiddy friendly watered down smackdown crap.  I totally agree!One can only pray that little-by-little, the ANNOYING KIDS will NOT be at ECW events because of their parents will disapprove the content of the show.I hate kids!  They ruin everything just by being there, with there stupid faces.

DirtyJersey

07-12-2006, 09:24 PM

RingWraith wrote: One can only pray that little-by-little, the ANNOYING KIDS will NOT be at ECW events because of their parents will disapprove the content of the show.I hate kids!  They ruin everything just by being there, with there stupid faces.The worst part is that they have no idea how hated they are by hardcore wrestling fans. They sit there with their stupid signs and chant ECW even though not one of them has ever seen a true ECW event or even knows what they are. One of the wrestlers should call them out on that. I think it would make a good little storyline. There is so much to tool on when it comes to the people at these shows.

Dirtybird12

07-12-2006, 09:53 PM

i dunno i think its a little strange that adults go to these things.

DirtyJersey

07-13-2006, 10:09 AM

CircusFreak wrote: i dunno i think its a little strange that adults go to these things. Ive got nowhere else to go! (sniffle) I got nowhere else to go. <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/down.gif" border="0" />

JustJon

07-13-2006, 10:41 AM

CircusFreak wrote: i dunno i think its a little strange that adults go to these things.   What was the date for your tickets again?

Dirtybird12

07-13-2006, 01:04 PM

kids bring in money w/ merchandising,this was discovered only about 20 something yrs ago when Vince  took the wwf from being a sport that drew old drunk hicks into a billion dollar industry by marketing to kids with the help of hogan and toys , shirts, cds, - I would think the ECW wrestlers would love to see more kids there. 

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Don Stugots

07-13-2006, 02:11 PM

RingWraith wrote: STUGOTS1 wrote:  i like seeing the look of sickened and horror on the faces of the mommies in the crowd while flair went hardcore and busted show's head wide open and painted the place red.  Stay home next time and take your kid too.  i want more of this and less of the soccer mom, kiddy friendly watered down smackdown crap.  I totally agree!One can only pray that little-by-little, the ANNOYING KIDS will NOT be at ECW events because of their parents will disapprove the content of the show.I hate kids!  They ruin everything just by being there, with there stupid faces.GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!!!!!

soundboardfan

07-13-2006, 05:31 PM

CircusFreak wrote: kids bring in money w/ merchandising,this was discovered only about 20 something yrs ago when Vince  took the wwf from being a sport that drew old drunk hicks into a billion dollar industry by marketing to kids with the help of hogan and toys , shirts, cds, - I would think the ECW wrestlers would love to see more kids there. This message was edited by CircusFreak on 7-13-06 @ 5:30 PM That is a great point.  I think we are all dissappointed because wrestling moved away from being kid oriented in the late 90's and now it is moving back.  They try to keep us happy by bringing back what we liked (DX and ECW), but it just isn't the same.

Don Stugots

07-13-2006, 05:44 PM

we need the dudleys!!!

pujolist

07-14-2006, 09:57 AM

CircusFreak wrote: i dunno i think its a little strange that adults go to these things. Ouch!  I've been a wrestling fan since I was about nine and I aint saying how long ago that's been.  I love this stuff.  I would go to em in a wheel chair.

cougarjake13

07-14-2006, 02:07 PM

ecw will be moved back one hour to 11pm this tuesday.. doesnt say if it's a permanent move<a href="http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/news/july18start">http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/news/july18start</a><img src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" border="0" />

Dirtybird12

07-14-2006, 07:11 PM

pujolist wrote: CircusFreak wrote: i dunno i think its a little strange that adults go to these things. Ouch!  I've been a wrestling fan since I was about nine and I aint saying how long ago that's been.  I love this stuff.  I would go to em in a wheel chair.Im right there with ya. We watch it now for a laugh/goof.  Been watching since Backlund won the title from Superstar Billy Grahm WWF. some of these "hardcore" adult fans make it even funnier.  There is something funny about a grown man sitting at ringside getting worked up and holding a sign. (me included) watching vince each week is a real treat.

Don Stugots

07-15-2006, 06:54 AM

CircusFreak wrote: pujolist wrote: CircusFreak wrote: i dunno i think its a little strange that adults go to these things. Ouch!  I've been a wrestling fan since I was about nine and I aint saying how long ago that's been.  I love this stuff.  I would go to em in a wheel chair.Im right there with ya. We watch it now for a laugh/goof.  Been watching since Backlund won the title from Superstar Billy Grahm WWF. some of these "hardcore" adult fans make it even funnier.  There is something funny about a grown man sitting at ringside getting worked up and holding a sign. (me included) watching vince each week is a real treat. i have been watching just as long.  no matter how bad it has gotten (the WWF the new generation included) i still watched.  i was at the elks lodge every chance i got.  even the night of the blizzard when the eliminators won the tag belts.  i am sick of the watering it down for the kids.  it wasnt watered down for me when i was watching Sgt. Slaughter vs. the Iron Sheik in a boot camp match and the sarge was wearing steel toes boots or the original sheik throw fire balls.

King Imp

07-15-2006, 10:31 PM

So, what do you think of the crossover continuing on the next show when the Undertaker faces Show for the belt? Hmmm, why do I have the feeling that Khali will show up as well?  <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/dry.gif" border="0" />

cougarjake13

07-16-2006, 05:51 AM

King Imp wrote: So, what do you think of the crossover continuing on the next show when the Undertaker faces Show for the belt? Hmmm, why do I have the feeling that Khali will show up as well?  <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/dry.gif" border="0" /> i'm personally getting sick of the cross promotion and it better end soon or ecw wont last the summeri know that they dont really have any ecw only guys to carry the show right now but start fucking developing them already<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

Don Stugots

07-16-2006, 06:45 AM

cougarjake13 wrote: King Imp wrote: So, what do you think of the crossover continuing on the next show when the Undertaker faces Show for the belt? Hmmm, why do I have the feeling that Khali will show up as well?  <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/dry.gif" border="0" /> i'm personally getting sick of the cross promotion and it better end soon or ecw wont last the summeri know that they dont really have any ecw only guys to carry the show right now but start fucking developing them already<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />its been a month already and they have not developed enough of talent to fill an hour??? with the comerical breaks, sandman squash, and the time eating dancing what does that leave 20-30 minutes?  if they cant get talent to fill 30 mins then it has no business being on TV period.

cougarjake13

07-16-2006, 11:54 AM

STUGOTS1 wrote: cougarjake13 wrote: King Imp wrote: So, what do you think of the crossover continuing on the next show when the Undertaker faces Show for the belt? Hmmm, why do I have the feeling that Khali will show up as well?  <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/dry.gif" border="0" /> i'm personally getting sick of the cross promotion and it better end soon or ecw wont last the summeri know that they dont really have any ecw only guys to carry the show right now but start fucking developing them already  its been a month already and they have not developed enough of talent to fill an hour??? with the comerical breaks, sandman squash, and the time eating dancing what does that leave 20-30 minutes?  if they cant get talent to fill 30 mins then it has no business being on TV period.  exactly.. at least they've started with some cm punk promos but so far every ecw show has followed this format in no particular ordersandman beats the shit out of someone but it's not a real matchkelly dances and mike knox comes out to stop us from seeing any goodnesssomeone from raw/SD! wrestles for the ecw titlewe see the stupid vampire guy and he spits blood at the camera

Don Stugots

07-16-2006, 11:59 AM

cougarjake13 wrote: STUGOTS1 wrote: cougarjake13 wrote: King Imp wrote: So, what do you think of the crossover continuing on the next show when the Undertaker faces Show for the belt? Hmmm, why do I have the feeling that Khali will show up as well?  <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/dry.gif" border="0" /> i'm personally getting sick of the cross promotion and it better end soon or ecw wont last the summeri know that they dont really have any ecw only guys to carry the show right now but start fucking developing them already  its been a month already and they have not developed enough of talent to fill an hour??? with the comerical breaks, sandman squash, and the time eating dancing what does that leave 20-30 minutes?  if they cant get talent to fill 30 mins then it has no business being on TV period.  exactly.. at least they've started with some cm punk promos but so far every ecw show has followed this format in no particular ordersandman beats the shit out of someone but it's not a real matchkelly dances and mike knox comes out to stop us from seeing any goodnesssomeone from raw/SD! wrestles for the ecw titlewe see the stupid vampire guy and he spits blood at the cameraat least get Joel Gertner and the BwO out there to fill some time.  I am looking forword to CM punk.  i dont know him but all of yous seem to be high on the guy.  still no tag teams?  if you are going to have a vampire guy why not get vampiro?  why not have the guy wrestle?    styles is going to announce more like Cole?  come on nail the coffin shut on this.

cougarjake13

07-16-2006, 12:02 PM

STUGOTS1 wrote:  at least get Joel Gertner and the BwO out there to fill some time.  I am looking forword to CM punk.  i dont know him but all of yous seem to be high on the guy.  still no tag teams?  if you are going to have a vampire guy why not get vampiro?  why not have the guy wrestle?    styles is going to announce more like Cole?  come on nail the coffin shut on this.i was going to mention that as well but i was talking to a friend of mine who was a hardcore ecw guy the first time around and said that tag teams werent really a big thing in the old ecw, i didnt watch too much of the old ecw so i didnt mention it<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

Digger

07-17-2006, 12:39 PM

I heard that Tommy Dreamer was suspended by the devil incarnate Vincent Kennedy McMahon for the apology he made to all ECW fans on the ECW website a week ago, dude totally fucking weak.

Don Stugots

07-17-2006, 01:10 PM

cougarjake13 wrote: STUGOTS1 wrote:  at least get Joel Gertner and the BwO out there to fill some time.  I am looking forword to CM punk.  i dont know him but all of yous seem to be high on the guy.  still no tag teams?  if you are going to have a vampire guy why not get vampiro?  why not have the guy wrestle?    styles is going to announce more like Cole?  come on nail the coffin shut on this.i was going to mention that as well but i was talking to a friend of mine who was a hardcore ecw guy the first time around and said that tag teams werent really a big thing in the old ecw, i didnt watch too much of the old ecw so i didnt mention it<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />tag teams werent big?  the pit bulls, the harris twins, the eliminators, catus jack and mikey, gangstas, public enemy, kevin sullivan & taz, sabu & taz, sabu and RVD, the impact players the DUDLEYS and the third team that to me is tied for first as great tag teams of all time Dr. Death and Terry Gordy.  granted they werent all there at the same time but it still was interesting.  why not have a tournament (i hate them but they fill time) for tag titles?

cougarjake13

07-17-2006, 03:05 PM

STUGOTS1 wrote:  tag teams werent big?  the pit bulls, the harris twins, the eliminators, catus jack and mikey, gangstas, public enemy, kevin sullivan & taz, sabu & taz, sabu and RVD, the impact players the DUDLEYS and the third team that to me is tied for first as great tag teams of all time Dr. Death and Terry Gordy.  granted they werent all there at the same time but it still was interesting.  why not have a tournament (i hate them but they fill time) for tag titles?like i said i didnt watch so i was going by a friends word

SpicyMcHaggis

07-18-2006, 07:22 PM

CM Punk is the only reason I'll be watching ECW.  (Hey guys, good to be back.  Wait...did anyone know I was gone?  Ah, well.)

JesterOfSadness

07-18-2006, 08:07 PM

Christ the Flair/Big Show match was awesome compared to that fucking mess that was Taker/Show...They seriously need to stop involving Raw/Smackdown clowns in this if they really want to push forward.

King Imp

07-18-2006, 08:14 PM

King Imp wrote: Hmmm, why do I have the feeling that Khali will show up as well?  <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/dry.gif" border="0" /> I sure was shocked, weren't you guys?

JustJon

07-19-2006, 09:48 AM

I was just shocked that I sat thru the whole thing.  At least Kelly looked hot last night.And the Sandman/Knox feud is already lame and it's only been 2 weeks.  Stevie/Sabu was top notch, though

J.Clints

07-19-2006, 11:53 AM

I think it has gotten better and better each week.

cougarjake13

07-19-2006, 01:28 PM

jclintsma wrote: I think it has gotten better and better each week. how ???they havent really done anything different and they're still doing cross promotion with raw and now smackdownthey havent even devolped any fueds but i guess they have a beginning of one with knox and sandman, maybe they have something going with heyman and dreamer but otherwise nothing.and the champion ( first rvd, now big show) has not defended the title against any ecw guys, only raw and sd! guys what the fuck is up with that ?? <img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

King Imp

07-19-2006, 11:26 PM

Does anyone know what those Singapore canes are made of and do they really hurt when hit by them? I really couldn't believe they had Kelly take a shot by that thing. Sandman didn't hold back either, he blasted her with it.

JesterOfSadness

07-19-2006, 11:55 PM

The only thing I know is that they hurt,,especially if you get nailed in the face/head area

SpicyMcHaggis

07-20-2006, 05:49 AM

(Don't know if this was discussed already) Did anyone see Rhino burn the original ECW title belt on Impact?  I thought that was pretty damn cool.  Nice statement from TNA.

JustJon

07-20-2006, 07:35 AM

I missed it, but a friend of mine saw it and told me about it.  He said that they said it was his old ECW title in a bag, but never showed the belt.  Then they lit the bag on fire.  If that is how it went down, then they half assed it and it's lame.