How not to steal a Sidekick

[JustJon]

<p>Nothing like being real stupid about it.</p><p><a href="http://www.evanwashere.com/StolenSidekick/" target="_blank">Read here&nbsp;</a></p>

[Doctor Manhattan]

<p><font color="#000099" size="2">I thought they signed the &quot;Finders Keepers&quot; into law a few years ago...</font></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font color="#000099" size="2">After reading that, I don't think I'll be buying a Sidekick. They got all this info with a little effort&nbsp;from the old sidekick just buy buying another one under the same name; who knows who else can just hack into your sidekick if they put a little effort into it.</font></p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Doctor Manhattan on 6-7-06 @ 12:15 PM</span>

[Furtherman]

I like what this guy is doing.&nbsp; I hope the thieves are humiliated and harrassed.

[Patches]

That's great- I am going to favorite this and&nbsp; see what happens...

[JustJon]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>Doctor Manhattan</strong> wrote:<br /><p><font size="2" color="#000099">&nbsp;who knows who else can just hack into your sidekick if they put a little effort into it.</font></p>

<span class="post_edited">This message was edited by Doctor Manhattan on 6-7-06 @ 12:15 PM</span><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Naked pictures of Paris Hilton.</p><p>Naked pictures of Vida Guererra.</p><p>Fred Durst porn.&nbsp;</p>

[Doctor Manhattan]

<font color="#000066" size="2">Exactly. How do they keep selling these things? I haven't heard of any leaks from Celebrities with their Blackberrys or Treos.</font>

[JustJon]

Because the Treo is designed to hold all the data in the phone itself via internal memory or a plug in card.&nbsp; The Sidekick is aimed at a younger demographic, where they store it on the servers so the kids don't have to know about memory management or anything else.<br />

[banditorico]

<p>I've been reading this guy's post since last night and it's a hoot.&nbsp; I like he emphasized he gave them (thief) a chance to return the device and had even offered a reward but they acted like asses and taunted him.</p><p>They deserve the humiliation, they have gotten more satisfaction out of this than they would have from the police.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Doctor Manhattan]

<strong>JustJon</strong> wrote:<br />Because the Treo is designed to hold all the data in the phone itself via internal memory or a plug in card.&nbsp; The Sidekick is aimed at a younger demographic, where they store it on the servers so the kids don't have to know about memory management or anything else.<br /><p><font color="#000066" size="2">That's my point. After Paris' photos were leaked and people learned about how Sidekick does this (even if they don't understand how it works, they can still see how it can go wrong) how did they manage to keep selling those things. Personally I want to control were my pictures and other personal stuff goes.</font></p><p><font color="#000066" size="2">I'm really happy this guy setup that web site, I'll be keeping track of it.</font></p>

[AngelAmy]

this is why i dont ever let my sidekick leave my side.

[Doctor Manhattan]

<strong>AngelAmy</strong> wrote:<br />this is why i dont ever let my sidekick leave my side. <p><font color="#000066" size="2">That doesn't matter. They still have the stolen sidekick and this guy was able to get all this info without even hacking into T-Mobile's server.</font></p><p><font color="#000066" size="2">I wonder if that &quot;Military Guy&quot; will get into trouble. (I think he made a threat using the fact that he is an MP)</font></p><p><font color="#000066" size="2" /></p><p><font color="#000066" size="2">Check out the rest of this guys website (some NSFW!): <a href="http://www.evanwashere.com/main.html">http://www.evanwashere.com/main.html</a></font></p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Doctor Manhattan on 6-7-06 @ 1:26 PM</span>

[Snoogans]

This kid is a pussy. OOOOO website crusader. Ya know how to handle this, you call the cops, tell them the deal,a dn say you also recall some information about coke deal that the kid had on his myspace and then took down. The cops will kick in his door in 2 minutes<br />

[JustJon]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>Snoogans</strong> wrote:<br />This kid is a pussy. OOOOO website crusader. Ya know how to handle this, you call the cops, tell them the deal,a dn say you also recall some information about coke deal that the kid had on his myspace and then took down. The cops will kick in his door in 2 minutes<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>he did call the cops.&nbsp; and screen capped the myspace pages before they were taken down.&nbsp; he did the page to put up the pictures and embarrass the people.&nbsp;</p>

[Snoogans]

yea i know, but it doesnt seem like the cops did anything, thats the point. <br />

[JustJon]

anything yet.&nbsp; It just happened yesterday.<br />

[Doctor Manhattan]

<strong>Snoogans</strong> wrote:<br />This kid is a pussy. OOOOO website crusader. Ya know how to handle this, you call the cops, tell them the deal,a dn say you also recall some information about coke deal that the kid had on his myspace and then took down. The cops will kick in his door in 2 minutes<br /><p><font color="#000099" size="2">He has been in contact with the cops:</font></p><p>As for contacting the police, a NYPD officer has contacted me already (he found this link on a blog) and informed me how to handle this situation.&nbsp; My friend and I will stop by a police station tomorrow with the receipt and serial.&nbsp; Another friend at T-Mobile has already gotten us the records we need to prove that these people took the phone as well as the numbers that they called with it.</p><p><em><font size="2">In fact, I was offered to be escorted to the police station to file charges </font></em></p><p><font color="#000066" size="2">He is not a pussy. He's not a &quot;website crusader&quot; over something stupid. These idiots stole something and refuse to do the right thing. He's exposing them. Good for him!</font></p>

[mikeyboy]

Just tell your girlfriend to give back the Sidekick, Snoogans, and stop telling people you are Military Police.

[Snoogans]

Don't even try going to the police, I will crush you like Stalin<br />

[Don Stugots]

you know i thought this thread was about kidnapping Fez. or about Roberto.

[ShelleBink]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>mikeyboy</strong> wrote:<br />Just tell your girlfriend to give back the Sidekick, Snoogans, and stop telling people you are Military Police.<p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>He just likes the MP for those nifty armbands they have.&nbsp;</p>

[MadMatt]

<p><font size="1">Boy, I like this guy!&nbsp; I hope the thieves fry for this.&nbsp; </font></p><p><font size="1">I read the whole page and now I'm hooked like a grandma watching soaps!</font></p>

[Doctor Manhattan]

<p><font size="2"><font color="#ff0000">The guy now has a forum:</font> </font><a href="http://stolensidekick.infotechdomains.com/"><font size="2">http://stolensidekick.infotechdomains.com/</font></a><font size="2">&nbsp;<font color="#ff0000">But it keeps crashing. I can't get enough of this story. Have R&amp;F mentioned it? I haven't been able to listen over the past couple days</font></font></p>

[JamMaster]

<p>This is brilliant!</p><p>The only thing that bothers be with this is you know some knucklehead out there is going to go too far and fuck with these people.&nbsp; One guy already found where they lived and started videotaping.&nbsp; They dont need anything like that regardless of what they did.&nbsp; </p><p>Public humiliation is funny, but not at the expense of fucking with someones life.&nbsp; There is a criminal justice system for a reason.</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by JamMaster on 6-8-06 @ 2:01 PM</span>

[Bulldogcakes]

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[Don Stugots]

<hr color="cococo" align="left"></font><strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br><img width="210" height="210" border="0" src="http://content.clearchannel.com/Photos/male_celebrities/ed_mcmahon/ed_mcmahon_FMB.jpg" /><hr color="cococo" align="left"><p></p>


thats funny.

[terry1979]

<p>Does any one else find this kid pathetic and annoying as hell?&nbsp; Wow, you gave a guy his umbrella back...you are an f-ing saint.&nbsp; Who the fuck does he think he is...sad part is the girl who lost this thing in the first place isn't even nailing him.&nbsp; I guarantee you he is the fat nice guy who is always the best friend and never gets laid.&nbsp; This whole thing is just a ploy to get laid....to be her knight in shining armour.&nbsp; </p><p>Buy a new fucking blackberry and move on.&nbsp; Leave this little girl alone.&nbsp; PAAAAAAAAAthetic!!!</p>

[Patches]

<strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Does any one else find this kid pathetic and annoying as hell?&nbsp; Wow, you gave a guy his umbrella back...you are an f-ing saint.&nbsp; Who the fuck does he think he is...sad part is the girl who lost this thing in the first place isn't even nailing him.&nbsp; I guarantee you he is the fat nice guy who is always the best friend and never gets laid.&nbsp; This whole thing is just a ploy to get laid....to be her knight in shining armour.&nbsp; </p><p>Buy a new fucking blackberry and move on.&nbsp; Leave this little girl alone.&nbsp; PAAAAAAAAAthetic!!!</p><p>Judging by his main page, I think you might be way off... </p><p><a href="http://www.evanwashere.com/main.html">http://www.evanwashere.com/main.html</a></p><p>If the pics he has w/ some of these chicks is pathetic, sign me up.</p>

[terry1979]

alright then he did because he is egotistical attention whore.&nbsp; He is MissMilf times a fucking thousand.

[Furtherman]

<strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Does any one else find this kid pathetic and annoying as hell?&nbsp; Wow, you gave a guy his umbrella back...you are an f-ing saint.&nbsp; Who the fuck does he think he is...sad part is the girl who lost this thing in the first place isn't even nailing him.&nbsp; I guarantee you he is the fat nice guy who is always the best friend and never gets laid.&nbsp; This whole thing is just a ploy to get laid....to be her knight in shining armour.&nbsp; </p><p>Buy a new fucking blackberry and move on.&nbsp; Leave this little girl alone.&nbsp; PAAAAAAAAAthetic!!!</p><p>I find this kid doing the right thing.&nbsp; I hope these thieves are harrassed to the point that they are scared to go outside.&nbsp; Ever have something stolen?&nbsp; Something that could easily have been returned?&nbsp; I have always returned things that the owners were easily identifiable.&nbsp; And this sidekick was stolen by a little brat whose older siblings don't even hold her accountable?&nbsp; You can just see where she's going in life.&nbsp; Maybe this will make her think twice the next time she would steal.&nbsp; </p>

[Furtherman]

<strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br />alright then he did because he is egotistical attention whore.&nbsp; He is MissMilf times a fucking thousand. <p>Did you see the pictures and video the thief took?&nbsp; There's your attention whore.</p>

[ChimneyFish]

<strong><em><font face="georgia,times new roman,times,serif" size="2">The only thing I can say after seeing that site, is now I'm having naughty thoughts about that 16 year olds' round bottom, and now&nbsp;I feel dirty.<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/devil2.gif" border="0" /></font></em></strong>

[terry1979]

<strong>Furtherman</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br />alright then he did because he is egotistical attention whore.&nbsp; He is MissMilf times a fucking thousand. <p>Did you see the pictures and video the thief took?&nbsp; There's your attention whore.</p><p>whatever, she is a fucking 16 year old girl who found something and kept it. It isn't like she picked his pocket.&nbsp; This is the best thing that ever happened to this guy.&nbsp; You know the amount of hits he is getting on his website?? and the fucking scroll of advertisements on the side of his website, this is all about generating profit through advertising revenue for this clown.&nbsp; He couldn't care less about doing &quot;the right thing&quot;.</p>

[FezPaul]

<strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Furtherman</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br />alright then he did because he is egotistical attention whore.&nbsp; He is MissMilf times a fucking thousand. <p>Did you see the pictures and video the thief took?&nbsp; There's your attention whore.</p><p>whatever, she is a fucking 16 year old girl who found something and kept it. It isn't like she picked his pocket.&nbsp; This is the best thing that ever happened to this guy.&nbsp; You know the amount of hits he is getting on his website?? and the fucking scroll of advertisements on the side of his website, this is all about generating profit through advertising revenue for this clown.&nbsp; He couldn't care less about doing &quot;the right thing&quot;.</p><p><strong><font face="courier new,courier,monospace" size="2">So you're saying he planned this?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </font></strong></p>

[Furtherman]

Wait until some 16 year old girl finds something of yours and keeps it.

[JimBeam]

<p>Terry you seem to be a little hostile towards the guy.</p><p>If it bothers you so much stop reading the blog and/or this thread.</p><p>The issue could've been dead if the trash that found it hadn't popped off with her tough ghetto attitude and just sold or returned then thing.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[terry1979]

<strong>FezPaul</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Furtherman</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br />alright then he did because he is egotistical attention whore.&nbsp; He is MissMilf times a fucking thousand. <p>Did you see the pictures and video the thief took?&nbsp; There's your attention whore.</p><p>whatever, she is a fucking 16 year old girl who found something and kept it. It isn't like she picked his pocket.&nbsp; This is the best thing that ever happened to this guy.&nbsp; You know the amount of hits he is getting on his website?? and the fucking scroll of advertisements on the side of his website, this is all about generating profit through advertising revenue for this clown.&nbsp; He couldn't care less about doing &quot;the right thing&quot;.</p><p><strong><font face="courier new,courier,monospace" size="2">So you're saying he planned this?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </font></strong></p><p>not saying that at all.&nbsp; All I'm saying an opportunity came along and he grabbed it.&nbsp; The guy is obviously entrepeneurial, he has his own damn website and was selling ad space before this.&nbsp; He probably e-mailed a few friends about it and they seemed to be interested in what happened and he decided to run with it and exploit this girl (who has a kid at 16-like she doesn't have enough problems)&nbsp;to create traffic&nbsp;on his site and make money.&nbsp; I did plenty of stupid shit to people in HS (egging, ring and run, shoplifting) and I sure as hell wouldn't be happy&nbsp;if a video of me doing something stupid at 15 or 16 was used for someone else to profit off of.</p><p>My only point is, let's not make this kid into some sort of vigilante crusader taking down hardened criminals.&nbsp; She is a poor girl from a bad neighborhood with a kid at 16 and probably no decent chance of making a good living for herself....He is a spoiled, rich fucking Upper East Side brat who grew up in Greenwich, one of the richest towns in the country, and according to his site has jet-setted all around the world most of his life.&nbsp; And had enough money to take a few years &quot;to find himself&quot; after he &quot;surivived 9/11&quot; from his f-ing apartment building in Tribecca (at least 10 blocks away).&nbsp; Give me a break.</p><p>Fuck this guy and anyone else who is patting him on the back.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[terry1979]

<strong>Furtherman</strong> wrote:<br />Wait until some 16 year old girl finds something of yours and keeps it. <p>oooohhh&nbsp;...that is so threatening further.&nbsp; I lose my cell phone once every few months, big fucking deal.&nbsp; I buy a new one like everyone else.&nbsp; Unless she finds my house or my car and keeps them, I don't think I'll fret too much about a god damn cell phone that I probably have insurance on anyway.</p>

[terry1979]

<strong>JimBeam</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Terry you seem to be a little hostile towards the guy.</p><p>If it bothers you so much stop reading the blog and/or this thread.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>It is way more fun to hate and rant and rave....you know, like the board with Dave.&nbsp; </p>

[Davios]

<strong>terry1979</strong> wrote: <p>not saying that at all.&nbsp; All I'm saying an opportunity came along and he grabbed it.&nbsp; The guy is obviously entrepeneurial, he has his own damn website and was selling ad space before this.&nbsp; He probably e-mailed a few friends about it and they seemed to be interested in what happened and he decided to run with it and exploit this girl (who has a kid at 16-like she doesn't have enough problems)&nbsp;to create traffic&nbsp;on his site and make money.&nbsp; I did plenty of stupid shit to people in HS (egging, ring and run, shoplifting) and I sure as hell wouldn't be happy&nbsp;if a video of me doing something stupid at 15 or 16 was used for someone else to profit off of.</p><p>My only point is, let's not make this kid into some sort of vigilante crusader taking down hardened criminals.&nbsp; She is a poor girl from a bad neighborhood with a kid at 16 and probably no decent chance of making a good living for herself....He is a spoiled, rich fucking Upper East Side brat who grew up in Greenwich, one of the richest towns in the country, and according to his site has jet-setted all around the world most of his life.&nbsp; And had enough money to take a few years &quot;to find himself&quot; after he &quot;surivived 9/11&quot; from his f-ing apartment building in Tribecca (at least 10 blocks away).&nbsp; Give me a break.</p><p>Fuck this guy and anyone else who is patting him on the back.</p><p>Why should the guy feel any kind of sympathy for a 16 yr old girl with a kid living in&nbsp;a bad neighborhood? I applaud all of this. He made an attempt to reasonably obtain his sidekick back from her, going as far as offering a reward. That is when she began insulting him and trying to play the &quot;tough latina hardass&quot; card. He has given her every opportunity to simply give back the phone and apologize, to which she has refused. </p><p>What do you think is the more likely deterrent to this type of behavior? Sitting back and simply accepting it?? The only thing that would have accomplished, is that this girl would continue to go on with the same mindset that she could get away with whatever it is she so pleases. I'll tell you what, I am willing to bet this boneheaded idiot doesn't steal another thing which does not belong to her.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>And as far as not caring until it is your home or your car. Who is to say that if the guy just lets it slide, some day it won't be your car????</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Davios on 6-9-06 @ 4:54 PM</span>

[terry1979]

how is it this kid's responsibility to teach this kid a lesson.&nbsp; She did the wrong thing, yes.&nbsp; But this kid's motives have nothing to do with wrong and right.&nbsp; He is trying to make $$.....that is all I am saying.

[ChimneyFish]

My only point is, let's not make this kid into some sort of vigilante crusader taking down hardened criminals.&nbsp; She is a poor girl from a bad neighborhood with a kid at 16.... <p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong><em><font face="georgia,times new roman,times,serif" size="2">And a great ass!!!!</font></em></strong></p><p><img src="http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c217/luxa1/ass.jpg" border="0" /></p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by ChimneyFish on 6-9-06 @ 4:58 PM</span>

[Furtherman]

<strong>Davios</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Why should the guy feel any kind of sympathy for a 16 yr old girl with a kid living in&nbsp;a bad neighborhood? I applaud all of this. He made an attempt to reasonably obtain his sidekick back from her, going as far as offering a reward. That is when she began insulting him and trying to play the &quot;tough latina hardass&quot; card. He has given her every opportunity to simply give back the phone and apologize, to which she has refused. </p><p>What do you think is the more likely deterrent to this type of behavior? Sitting back and simply accepting it?? The only thing that would have accomplished, is that this girl would continue to go on with the same mindset that she could get away with whatever it is she so pleases. I'll tell you what, I am willing to bet this boneheaded idiot doesn't steal another thing which does not belong to her.</p><p>Exactly.&nbsp; Her &quot;tough latina badass&quot; card has got to go.&nbsp; Anyone who plays those tough badass cards has got to go.&nbsp; And hopefully by teaching her a lesson, while she is young, she'll drop that card and make something of herself.</p>

[FezPaul]

<strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>FezPaul</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Furtherman</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br />alright then he did because he is egotistical attention whore.&nbsp; He is MissMilf times a fucking thousand. <p>Did you see the pictures and video the thief took?&nbsp; There's your attention whore.</p><p>whatever, she is a fucking 16 year old girl who found something and kept it. It isn't like she picked his pocket.&nbsp; This is the best thing that ever happened to this guy.<font color="#cc3300">&nbsp;</font><font size="2"><font color="#cc3300">Of</font> <font color="#cc0033">course, who doesn't like being stolen from?</font></font>&nbsp;You know the amount of hits he is getting on his website?? and the fucking scroll of advertisements on the side of his website, this is all about generating profit through advertising revenue for this clown.<font color="#cc3300" size="2">Why should he care about</font> <font color="#cc3300" size="2">money? You said he was born rich.</font>&nbsp; He couldn't care less about doing &quot;the right thing&quot;.<font color="#cc3300" size="2">Because you know him so well.</font></p><p><strong><font face="courier new,courier,monospace" size="2">So you're saying he planned this?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </font></strong></p><p>not saying that at all.&nbsp; All I'm saying an opportunity came along and he grabbed it.&nbsp; The guy is obviously entrepeneurial, he has his own damn website and was selling ad space before this.&nbsp; He probably e-mailed a few friends about it and they seemed to be interested in what happened and he decided to run with it and exploit this girl (who has a kid at 16-like she doesn't have enough problems)&nbsp;to create traffic&nbsp;on his site and make money.&nbsp; I did plenty of stupid shit to people in HS (egging, ring and run, shoplifting) and I sure as hell wouldn't be happy&nbsp;if a video of me doing something stupid at 15 or 16 was used for someone else to profit off of.<font color="#cc3300" size="2">But it still would have served you right.</font></p><p>My only point is, let's not make this kid into some sort of vigilante crusader taking down hardened criminals.&nbsp; She is a poor girl from a bad neighborhood with a kid at 16 and probably no decent chance of making a good living for herself.<font color="#cc3300" size="2">Yes, we all know how</font> <font color="#cc3300" size="2">&quot;those people&quot; are</font>....He is a spoiled, rich fucking Upper East Side brat who grew up in Greenwich, one of the richest towns in the country, and according to his site has jet-setted all around the world most of his life.&nbsp; And had enough money to take a few years &quot;to find himself&quot; after he &quot;surivived 9/11&quot; from his f-ing apartment building in Tribecca (at least 10 blocks away).<font color="#cc3300" size="2">Because rich people don't feel pain.</font>&nbsp; Give me a break.</p><p>Fuck this guy and anyone else who is patting him on the back.</p><p><font color="#cc3300" size="2">Because all of us should be resentful and envious of those who have more than we do.</font></p>

[Furtherman]

<strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br />how is it this kid's responsibility to teach this kid a lesson.&nbsp; She did the wrong thing, yes.&nbsp; But this kid's motives have nothing to do with wrong and right.&nbsp; He is trying to make $$.....that is all I am saying. <p>You don't have to give him any money to read his updates.&nbsp; I'm not going to give him any money, as I sure no one on Ronfez.net would either.&nbsp; But if someone wants to give him money, so what?&nbsp; It's not going to do harm to you or I.&nbsp; So he throws in some business sense, good for him... it's not like he is stealing from the poor.</p>

[terry1979]

<strong>Davios</strong> wrote:<br /><p>And as far as not caring until it is your home or your car. Who is to say that if the guy just lets it slide, some day it won't be your car????</p><span class="post_edited">This message was edited by Davios on 6-9-06 @ 4:54 PM</span> <p>give me a fucking break...little dramatic, don't you think.&nbsp; And all we know is what this guy tells us, and we are taking the word of a guy who brags on his website about convincing 18 year old girls to pose topless for him as gospel?&nbsp;&nbsp;It may have went down a totally different way.</p>

[JimBeam]

<p>While I do think there's something fishy about the site and his constant updating ( maybe some project for college or grad school concerning psycology or something ) if the story is true I do find it fascinating.</p><p>Terry you go all of this &quot; She is a poor girl from a bad neighborhood with a kid at 16 and probably no decent chance of making a good living for herself &quot; from the pics and her myspace info ?</p><p>Nice stereotyping.</p><p>Plus the kid said he grew up in an orphanage or something, whether thats true or not I dont know.</p><p>You may say &quot; well how does he have all this computer savy if thats the case ? &quot;</p><p>I'll say &quot; Maybe he applied himself and made something out of his life which didnt include using stolen and/or lost property &quot;.</p><p>And I have zero sympathy for her if she got knockedup at 15.</p><p>Thats her deal and she could've prevented it.</p><p>And what about that &quot; brother's &quot; military uniform ?</p><p>What's he with GI Joe. Not a very common pattern/color of cammo is it ?</p>

[JustJon]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br />how is it this kid's responsibility to teach this kid a lesson. She did the wrong thing, yes. But this kid's motives have nothing to do with wrong and right. He is trying to make $$.....that is all I am saying.<p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Are you and I looking at the same site?&nbsp; He has NO ads.&nbsp; He even said in the text he doesn't want to put up ads, but he's taking donations to help pay for the costs (he put up screen caps of the bills for the last couple days)<br /></p>

[ChimneyFish]

<p><font color="#cc3300" size="2">Because all of us should be resentful and envious of those who have more than we do.</font></p><p><strong><em><font face="georgia,times new roman,times,serif" size="2">And what's you're point????<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/wink.gif" border="0" /></font></em></strong></p>

[Davios]

<strong>JustJon</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br />how is it this kid's responsibility to teach this kid a lesson. She did the wrong thing, yes. But this kid's motives have nothing to do with wrong and right. He is trying to make $$.....that is all I am saying. <p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Are you and I looking at the same site?&nbsp; He has NO ads.&nbsp; He even said in the text he doesn't want to put up ads, but he's taking donations to help pay for the costs (he put up screen caps of the bills for the last couple days)<br /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Really, you're talking like he running a god damn textile business off his poorly created site. He did write an entry stating he WOULD NOT accept donations from people for a new sidekick. </p>

[FezPaul]

<strong>ChimneyFish</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><font color="#cc3300" size="2">Because all of us should be resentful and envious of those who have more than we do.</font> <p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong><em><font face="georgia,times new roman,times,serif" size="2">And what's you're point????<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/wink.gif" border="0" /></font></em></strong></p><p>http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f281/FezPaul/mashed.jpg<br /><strong><font face="courier new,courier,monospace" size="3">I love mashed potatoes!!!!!</font></strong></p>

[terry1979]

<strong>Furtherman</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br />how is it this kid's responsibility to teach this kid a lesson.&nbsp; She did the wrong thing, yes.&nbsp; But this kid's motives have nothing to do with wrong and right.&nbsp; He is trying to make $$.....that is all I am saying. <p>You don't have to give him any money to read his updates.&nbsp; I'm not going to give him any money, as I sure no one on Ronfez.net would either.&nbsp; But if someone wants to give him money, so what?&nbsp; It's not going to do harm to you or I.&nbsp; So he throws in some business sense, good for him... it's not like he is stealing from the poor.</p><p>First of all I am not even talking about the donations, which is classless.&nbsp; I am talking about creating traffic on his site to bolster ad revenue.&nbsp; The guy is obviously business savvy, that doesn't make what he is doing right.&nbsp; The punishment should fit the crime and this guy is taking it way to far, now a couple of hundred thousand people know who this girl is and where she lives and they are hostile towards her.&nbsp; What if something happens to her as a result of this.&nbsp; What will you say then?&nbsp; She deserved it, shouldn't have found that sidekick.</p><p>And it is extremely disturbing to me that people are donating money to fund the continuing harassment of a 16 year old girl.</p>

[Furtherman]

<strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br /><p>What will you say then?&nbsp; She deserved it, shouldn't have found that sidekick.</p><p>And it is extremely disturbing to me that people are donating money to fund the continuing harassment of a 16 year old girl.</p><p>No, she shouldn't have stolen that sidekick.&nbsp; She shouldn't have kept it.&nbsp; </p><p>And 16 is a dangerous age... a lot of 16 year olds need some harrassment to set them straight.&nbsp; </p>

[CuzBum]

you're not the guy are you terry?

[terry1979]

<strong>JimBeam</strong> wrote:<br /><p>While I do think there's something fishy about the site and his constant updating ( maybe some project for college or grad school concerning psycology or something ) if the story is true I do find it fascinating.</p><p>Terry you go all of this &quot; She is a poor girl from a bad neighborhood with a kid at 16 and probably no decent chance of making a good living for herself &quot; from the pics and her myspace info ?</p><p>Nice stereotyping.</p><p>no...because she is from fucking Corona, Queens.&nbsp; It is a very poor area.&nbsp; Fact, not a stereotype.&nbsp; And this guy has ads scrolloing up and down his evanwashere.com site.&nbsp; Which you can link to through the other one.</p>

[terry1979]

<strong>CuzBum</strong> wrote:<br />you're not the guy are you terry? <p>that gave me a chuckle...no, I'm not him.&nbsp; But I am giving him so pretty good hype through my bitter rants.&nbsp; Don't you think?</p>

[ChimneyFish]

<strong>FezPaul</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>ChimneyFish</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><font color="#cc3300" size="2">Because all of us should be resentful and envious of those who have more than we do.</font> <p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong><em><font face="georgia,times new roman,times,serif" size="2">And what's you're point????<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/wink.gif" border="0" /></font></em></strong></p><p><img src="http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f281/FezPaul/mashed.jpg" border="0" /><br /><strong><font face="courier new,courier,monospace" size="3">I love mashed potatoes!!!!!</font></strong></p><p><strong><em><font face="georgia,times new roman,times,serif" size="2">Me too. </font></em></strong></p><p><strong><em><font face="georgia,times new roman,times,serif" size="2">&nbsp; </font></em></strong></p><p><strong><em><font face="Georgia" size="2">&nbsp; </font></em></strong></p><p><strong><em><font face="Georgia" size="2">&nbsp; </font></em></strong></p><p><strong><em><font face="Georgia" size="2">&nbsp; </font></em></strong></p><p><strong><em><font face="Georgia" size="2">&nbsp; </font></em></strong></p><p><strong><em><font face="Georgia" size="2">&nbsp; </font></em></strong></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong><em><font face="georgia,times new roman,times,serif" size="2">And that girls rump.</font></em></strong></p>

[CuzBum]

thos aren't ads on the right they are just dead links or links that take you back to his site, looks like he will have news scrolling there in the future, one of the liks says hot news

[JimBeam]

<p>Yes understandable that Corona may be a bad area but does that mean we should continue to handicap people from economically depressed areas ?</p><p>They'll never amount to anything so let's pigeon-hole them ?</p><p>How bad off can she be if she has a computer on which she can access MySpace and AOL ?</p><p>Good ole taxpayer money hard at work ?</p>

[CuzBum]

<p>&nbsp;Just to add, for 16, SHE'S GOT A GREAAAAAAAAAAT ASS</p><p><img src="http://www.tatteredcoat.com/images/heat-pacino-great-ass.jpg" border="0" /></p>

[Furtherman]

<strong>JimBeam</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Yes understandable that Corona may be a bad area but does that mean we should continue to handicap people from economically depressed areas ?</p><p>They'll never amount to anything so let's pigeon-hole them ?</p><p>How bad off can she be if she has a computer on which she can access MySpace and AOL ?</p><p>Good ole taxpayer money hard at work ?</p><p>Good point JimBeam.&nbsp; Is the entire neighborhood of Corona so bad off that you would think, &quot;Corona?&nbsp; Oh, no chance.&quot;&nbsp; She has better computer equipment than me!</p>

[terry1979]

<strong>CuzBum</strong> wrote:<br />thos aren't ads on the right they are just dead links or links that take you back to his site, looks like he will have news scrolling there in the future, one of the liks says hot news <p>either way....he is making people aware of his site and everything that is coming soon to it....how is that not blatantly obvious to everyone.&nbsp; That is his motivator here.&nbsp; He is a damn good salesman.&nbsp; He waited just long enough with the &quot;I won't except donations&quot; crap....then &quot;my friends are worried I am spending too much on this....but please don't give more than you can.&quot;&nbsp; He has probably made enough to buy 500 sidekicks off of this.&nbsp; Lots of fucking suckers out there.</p>

[JimBeam]

<p>Well I can assure you he's not getting a dime from me either way.</p><p>I wouldnt send a nicklel if the story was that the website guy stole the thief's kid.</p><p>But if he is making some cash God bless him.</p><p>He's gone through a lot of effort.</p><p>This&nbsp;could be one big Lost kinda thing and we're all the Lostees pushing buttons and writing in journals to keep it going.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[terry1979]

I am not defending what this chick did....I am just saying that this guy is scumbag ego-maniac.

[CuzBum]

<p>What do they do with all the money they make selling beer?</p><p><img height="300" src="http://www.tdprojecthope.com/images/corona-lime.jpg" width="400" border="0" /></p>

[FezPaul]

<strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>I am not defending what this chick did....</strong>I am just saying that this guy is scumbag ego-maniac. <p><strong><font face="courier new,courier,monospace" size="2">Bullshit, She's poor, she's young, she didn't take it, she just didn't give it back.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font face="courier new,courier,monospace" size="2">Those are defenses.</font></strong></p>

[terry1979]

fair enough....well that killed the last hour and a half of my week.&nbsp; Thanks. &nbsp;I'm gonna go steal some shit now.&nbsp; Where do you live Further?&nbsp; <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/wink.gif" border="0" />

[terry1979]

<strong>FezPaul</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>I am not defending what this chick did....</strong>I am just saying that this guy is scumbag ego-maniac. <p><strong><font face="courier new,courier,monospace" size="2">Bullshit, She's poor, she's young, she didn't take it, she just didn't give it back.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font face="courier new,courier,monospace" size="2">Those are defenses.</font></strong></p><p>ooooohhhhh...the bold type is coming out.&nbsp; You are pretty god damn unthreatening when your angry.</p>

[FezPaul]

<strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>FezPaul</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>I am not defending what this chick did....</strong>I am just saying that this guy is scumbag ego-maniac. <p><strong><font face="courier new,courier,monospace" size="2">Bullshit, She's poor, she's young, she didn't take it, she just didn't give it back.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font face="courier new,courier,monospace" size="2">Those are defenses.</font></strong></p><p>ooooohhhhh...the bold type is coming out.&nbsp; You are pretty god damn unthreatening when <strong>your</strong> angry.</p><p><strong><font face="courier new,courier,monospace" size="2">1) I always use bold type to emphasize the specific part of a quote I'm addressing.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font face="courier new,courier,monospace" size="2">2) I'm not angry (although you seem to be).</font></strong></p><p><strong><font face="courier new,courier,monospace" size="2">3) I have no intention of threatening anyone.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font face="Courier New" size="2">4) It's you're, not your.</font></strong></p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by FezPaul on 6-9-06 @ 5:34 PM</span>

[CuzBum]

<p><strong><font face="Courier New" size="2">4) It's you're, not your.</font></strong></p><p><img src="http://users.adelphia.net/~rains81/images2/pwn3d.jpg" border="0" /></p>

[AngelAmy]

<p>nevermind</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by AngelAmy on 6-9-06 @ 5:58 PM</span>

[suggums]

i really like fezpauls new avatar<br />

[Davios]

<p>Man this is fucking great.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>You can now play the role of this bonehead and steal your own sidekicks!</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><a href="http://www.detroitserver.com/sidekick.htm" target="_blank"><font color="#006699" size="2">http://www.detroitserver.com/sidekick.htm</font></a><font size="2"> </font></p>

[Billy Staples]

<p>&quot; <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/viewmessages.cfm/forum/52/topic/50587">How not to steal a Sidekick</a>&quot;</p><p>Very simple</p><p>offer them a job</p><p>pay them a lot of money</p><p>realize their talent and net worth to the show</p><p>makke him or her feel wanted and appreciated so they wont look anywhere else</p><p>never believe an offer from Clearchannel</p><p>find a gost who really needs you and basically couldn't do a decent show without your help</p><p>remember their birthdays</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>(No it is not about me so stop reading anything int it, I am as happy as a clam and about as mobile and motivated)</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>what would a clam be motivated to do anyway?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>hmmmmm guess it goes with the Norweginans taking away the kids fishing poles cause the fish feeling pain (old but very funny call back, one of my favorites)</p>

[Snoogans]

Billy, are you tryin to be the Anthony Young of the messageboard, and post like 28 straight times without making anyone laugh?<br />

[TheMojoPin]

Snoogans is a goddamn genius.&nbsp; Y'ALL HEARD.

[Tall_James]

<strong>Snoogans</strong> wrote:<br />Billy, are you tryin to be the Anthony Young of the messageboard, and post like 28 straight times without making anyone laugh?<br /><p>Now THAT'S funny!</p>

[Snoogans]

thanks, buddies<br />

[Doctor Manhattan]

<font size="2"><a href="http://www.evanwashere.com/StolenSidekick/" target="_blank">Sounds like they(the&nbsp;ones who found the Sidekick)&nbsp;are going to sue Evan</a></font>

[Furtherman]

<p>I'd be skeptical about the email saying they are going to sue.&nbsp; Could be a ploy to get him to stop updating and hope this goes away.</p><p>BUT... he does say he is ending this by the weekend.</p><p>I was hoping he would get it back or see the thieves busted.&nbsp; </p>

[Doctor Manhattan]

<strong>Furtherman</strong> wrote:<br /><p>BUT... he does say he is ending this by the weekend. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font color="#990000" size="2">Isn't that up to the police? He filed the complaint (#2006-009-003801) They may not work on this issue that quickly...</font></p><p><a href="http://www.stfcc.org/bluefox/permanent/NYPD1.JPG" target="_blank"><img height="512" src="http://www.stfcc.org/bluefox/permanent/NYPD1.JPG" width="373" border="0" /></a></p>

[JimBeam]

<p>How can he be sued ?</p><p>He hasnt posted anything that he didnt have access to by surfing the net.</p><p>The MySpace profiles arent private, the pics he got from his friends SIM car or whatever, and the emails they sent him have no reasonable expectation of privacy.</p><p>In the end it may wind up being t MObile who can do the most damage as the fraud was carried out on their service.</p><p>This Evan kid may have some legal wrnagling too if he can play up the racial overtones ( providing the emails can be traced to the thieves ).</p>

[Doctor Manhattan]

<strong>JimBeam</strong> wrote:<br /><p>How can he be sued ?</p><p>He hasnt posted anything that he didnt have access to by surfing the net.<font color="#ff0000" size="2"> </font></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font color="#ff0000" size="2">I guess harrassment would be the only thing they could try. Given the fact that they stole/found the phone and all the information/contact Evan has had with the Corona family has been a result of them finding the Sidekick and refusing to return it or turn it over to T-Mobile/Police to be returned; I don't think it would hold up.</font></p>

[libbyzibby]

<p>///</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by libbyzibby on 6-14-06 @ 12:48 AM</span>

[Alice S. Fuzzybutt]

<p>At first it was a really cool story and I really backed him up. </p><p>I'd love to see justice triumph but it's just NOT going to happen. It really is a NON issue to the NYPD.I am a cynic. </p><p>Ok, I wrote the Russian embassy. No reason why a woman's wedding should suffer. It was worth a shot!</p>

[FMJeff]

<p><img height="260" src="http://www.impawards.com/1993/posters/sidekicks.jpg" width="175" border="0" /></p><p>oh...you mean they weren't stealing a bad buddy movie starring now dead child actor Jonathan brandis, star of such hailed television as SeaQuest DSV? </p>

[Doctor Manhattan]

<font color="#990000" size="2">I guess this story is dead. Police didn't want to shake his hand was the only&nbsp;&quot;newsy&quot;&nbsp;type thing&nbsp;mentioned in the last update.</font>

[dotsncoms]

The cops arrested Sasha last Thursday, look at his update it's great!

[Furtherman]

<p>GOOD.</p><p>A happy ending to that story.&nbsp; The NY Times article about it was great too.</p><p>Three weeks ago, Mr. Guttman went on a quest to retrieve a friend's lost cellphone, a quest that has now ended with the arrest of a 16-year-old on charges of possessing the missing gadget, a <font color="#004276">Sidekick</font> model with a built-in camera that sells for as much as $350. But before the teenager was arrested, she was humiliated by Mr. Guttman in front of untold thousands of people on the Web, an updated version of the elaborate public shamings common in centuries past.</p><p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/21/nyregion/21sidekick.html" target="_blank">Tale of a Lost Cellphone, and Untold Static</a></p>

[LordJezo]

<p>All that work and they aren't even going to press charges against her?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>What a waste of time.&nbsp; They should throw her in prison for what she did.&nbsp; Now she's free to walk the streets and steal again.</p><p>Horrible.&nbsp;</p>