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mikeyboy

06-02-2006, 05:28 AM

<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/01/AR2006060101968.html" target="_self">Yes, that Jeffrey Maier</a>I really hate that kid.<h1>From Way Out in Right Field</h1><h2>Yankees Fan Who Beat O's in Stands Could Join Them in Dugout</h2><div>By <a title="Send an e-mail to Dave Sheinin" href="http://projects.washingtonpost.com/staff/email/dave+sheinin/">Dave Sheinin</a></div>Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, June 2, 2006; Page A01  <div>This is a story about fate, a story about a curse -- if you care to believe in such things. It is a story about coming to grips with them, and maybe, just maybe, reversing them. It is a story about a 12-year-old boy in a black T-shirt who is now a polished 22-year-old man with a marketable talent. And it is a story about a beleaguered baseball team that may be preparing to take a wild stab at manipulating fate by confronting it head-on.Jeffrey Maier, a future Baltimore Oriole? Oh, dear heaven. The blood of Orioles fandom boils at the very thought of the name, let alone the thought of such a traitorous alliance.<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="238" align="right" border="0"><tr><td width="10"> </td><td width="228"><div class="media_photo"></div><div class="sidebarhack"></div><div class="sidebar"><h2 /></div></td></tr></table>The story begins on Oct. 9, 1996, when Maier, then 12 years old and a rabid New York Yankees fan, reached over the wall at Yankee Stadium and altered the course of Game 1 of the American League Championship Series, as well as the fates -- if you care to believe in such things -- of two franchises.And the story ends, at least for now, with a phone call Orioles owner Peter Angelos received a few days ago. You'll never guess, the caller said, who is a pretty good college baseball player now, the all-time hits leader at Wesleyan (Conn.) University, an outfielder-third baseman with a decent chance of being drafted during next week's Major League Baseball amateur draft."Who?"Jeffrey Maier. Yes, that Jeffrey Maier."You're kidding," Angelos said.Nope.There was a long pause, and one could imagine Angelos considering all that had transpired for -- but mostly, to -- the Orioles since the moment the young boy reached out with his glove.For nearly 13 years now, Angelos has presided over a once-proud franchise whose fortunes never seemed to recover from that October night in the Bronx. The Orioles lost the game -- thanks to what still stands as one of the worst umpiring calls in history; while the play was ruled a home run, tying the game, replays showed Maier clearly interfered with the ball -- and lost the series. They returned to the playoffs in 1997, lost again, and since then have endured eight consecutive losing seasons, the longest such stretch in franchise history.The caller expected Angelos to react to the news of Maier's collegiate exploits and professional aspirations with disdain, perhaps with a string of profanities.Instead, he said this: "To forgive is divine."<div>It was as if Angelos had suddenly grasped the enormity of what was now in front of him -- an extraordinary opportunity to alter fate and, in doing so, recast it to one's advantage.The Orioles, during the Major League Baseball first-year player draft next Tuesday and Wednesday, have the power to select Jeff (as he now calls himself) Maier of Wesleyan University and see what happens.<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="238" align="right" border="0"><tr><td width="10"> </td><td width="228"><div class="sidebarhack"></div><div class="sidebar"><h2><a href="http://del.icio.us/"></a></h2></div></td></tr></table>According to Angelos, they just might."I wouldn't be at all opposed to [drafting Maier]. In fact, I'd say it's a very interesting development," Angelos said. "You can say the Oriole

Jennitalia

06-02-2006, 05:38 AM

i was at that game.  one of the best games ever!

Judge Smails

06-02-2006, 05:42 AM

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06-02-2006, 05:45 AM

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A.J.

06-02-2006, 06:33 AM

At least he proved he could catch a ball in a clutch situation.

Crippler

06-02-2006, 07:07 AM

I look forward to seeing hi m play outfield (hopefully right) for the Orioles, simply for the greeting he would get during his first trip to The Stadium.  I was at that game too, and if memory serves the ball hit him on the heel of the glove & ran up his arm into the stands...I always look forward to that kind of play by visiting outfielders.

Plethora

06-02-2006, 07:11 AM

I actually, to this very day, cannot stand NBC's (?) Jim Grey because of his jubilantly goofy and (from an O's fans perspective) entirely inappropriately laudatory interview of that kid in the stands that night... Grrr.

Snoogans

06-02-2006, 07:22 AM

I thought people hated Jim Grey for the Pete Rose thing. Anyway, does it really matter anymore? It was so fuckin long ago, the only person who it probably still actually bothers is Tony Torasco

Plethora

06-02-2006, 07:27 AM

Snoogans wrote: I thought people hated Jim Grey for the Pete Rose thing. Anyway, does it really matter anymore? It was so fuckin long ago, the only person who it probably still actually bothers is Tony Torasco  We're O's fans... we've got nothing.  Don't take away our bitterness.

mikeyboy

06-02-2006, 07:32 AM

Snoogans wrote: I thought people hated Jim Grey for the Pete Rose thing. Anyway, does it really matter anymore? It was so fuckin long ago, the only person who it probably still actually bothers is Tony Torasco Did you read the article?  It sounds like Davey Johnson and Scott Erickson are still bitter.

AKA

06-02-2006, 08:07 AM

I can't stand the brat, but I really can't begrudge him for acting like a stupid kid and going for the ball. The thing that pissed me off then, and still pisses me off now, is that the kid was treated like a conqueroring hero - the announcers, GMA, Regis, etc - for cheating. If this has been some hick kid at a Twins game that robbed the Yankees, the media's reaction would have been completely different, and the hypocrites would all be up in arms.And still - even with that article - there's no real play about how the coverage seeped all over themselves over "The Play." Even calling it "The Play" gives it more importance than it fucking deserves. Maybe the most obnoxious revelation in the article is that his mother told him that because he is a world famous cheater, then he must be destined for greatness -  again, if this was the quote from some Minnessotta "MaMo" about her little boy who might make it into the big league, the hypocrites would be laughing their asses off. As much of a cute novelty as it would be to bring him to Charm City, there really are some crazy fucks out there - who knows what they would do. He was smart not to go to Hopkins.

Bulldogcakes

06-02-2006, 02:11 PM

<img width="500" height="375" border="0" src="http://www.buyersmls.com/honeymooners/eyes.jpg" />Hum eh nah Hum eh nah Hum eh nah Hum eh nah Hum eh nah Hum eh nah

OGC

06-02-2006, 04:08 PM

I think it would be perfect justice if the Orioles drafted him and stuck him in the minors in East Bumfuck and let him stay there.

ADF

06-02-2006, 04:26 PM

It was a bad call, but I dunno if I'd call it one of the worst calls of all time. My prediction -  Game 7 of the World Series:    Jeff Maier hits a long fly to the warning track and a fan scoops the sure out right over the head of Cubs outfielder Steve  Bartman, Jr.  Home run!  Orioles win the series!

Tenbatsuzen

06-02-2006, 04:30 PM

ADF wrote: It was a bad call, but I dunno if I'd call it one of the worst calls of all time. My prediction - Game 7 of the World Series: Jeff Maier hits a long fly to the warning track and a fan scoops the sure out right over the head of Cubs outfielder Steve Bartman, Jr. Home run! Orioles win the series!    You went pretty far for that joke, dude.

Tenbatsuzen

06-02-2006, 04:35 PM

The minor league draft and scouting system is ridiculous, and I'll tell you why... I remember a baseball player who was scouted to be a horrific player.  He was a catcher, which was a marketable commodity in baseball, but he simply didn't have the "tools" to succeed in the major leagues.He was drafted and brought into a professional organization as a favor to the manager, who was his godfather, against the better judgement of the scouts and the GM. BTW, he's a future hall of famer.  A few of you might know him. <img width="150" height="245" border="0" src="http://www.celebopedia.com/piazza/images/mike_piazza.jpg" />   Oh, remember Brien Taylor?

Tenbatsuzen

06-02-2006, 04:37 PM

mikeyboy wrote: Snoogans wrote: I thought people hated Jim Grey for the Pete Rose thing. Anyway, does it really matter anymore? It was so fuckin long ago, the only person who it probably still actually bothers is Tony Torasco Did you read the article? It sounds like Davey Johnson and Scott Erickson are still bitter.   Scott Erickson goes home to a piece of ass every single fucking night.  I don't want to hear it.

Tenbatsuzen

06-02-2006, 04:39 PM

One more thing - there's 30 teams in Major League Baseball.  There's upwards of 60+ rounds in the draft.  The chances of Maier going to the Yankees or Orioles is miniscule as compared to other teams who would want to snap up "cheap" talent.

SatCam

06-02-2006, 04:43 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: The minor league draft and scouting system is ridiculous, and I'll tell you why... I remember a baseball player who was scouted to be a horrific player. He was a catcher, which was a marketable commodity in baseball, but he simply didn't have the "tools" to succeed in the major leagues.He was drafted and brought into a professional organization as a favor to the manager, who was his godfather, against the better judgement of the scouts and the GM. BTW, he's a future hall of famer. A few of you might know him. <img width="150" height="245" border="0" src="http://www.celebopedia.com/piazza/images/mike_piazza.jpg" /> Oh, remember Brien Taylor? 

I think I've heard of him... he's the guy who got Eddie Trunk fired, right?
 
http://www.unchainednj.com/gallery/Random/photos/photo2.jpg

Tenbatsuzen

06-02-2006, 04:47 PM

SatCam wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: The minor league draft and scouting system is ridiculous, and I'll tell you why... I remember a baseball player who was scouted to be a horrific player. He was a catcher, which was a marketable commodity in baseball, but he simply didn't have the "tools" to succeed in the major leagues.He was drafted and brought into a professional organization as a favor to the manager, who was his godfather, against the better judgement of the scouts and the GM. BTW, he's a future hall of famer. A few of you might know him. <img width="150" height="245" border="0" src="http://www.celebopedia.com/piazza/images/mike_piazza.jpg" /> Oh, remember Brien Taylor?  

I think I've heard of him... he's the guy who got Eddie Trunk fired, right?
 
<img border="0" src="http://www.unchainednj.com/gallery/Random/photos/photo2.jpg" />   He had sex in a church?

Mr.Pants

06-02-2006, 05:36 PM

Did you notice how steroid use has run rampant since "the play"? The message is clear. Not only is cheating okay, it's adorable.

ADF

06-02-2006, 05:51 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: ADF wrote: It was a bad call, but I dunno if I'd call it one of the worst calls of all time. My prediction - Game 7 of the World Series: Jeff Maier hits a long fly to the warning track and a fan scoops the sure out right over the head of Cubs outfielder Steve Bartman, Jr. Home run! Orioles win the series! You went pretty far for that joke, dude.    The first part was serious.  The second part was just being goofy, dude.

Marc with a c

06-02-2006, 06:09 PM

ADF wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: ADF wrote: It was a bad call, but I dunno if I'd call it one of the worst calls of all time. My prediction - Game 7 of the World Series:
Jeff Maier hits a long fly to the warning track and a fan scoops the
sure out right over the head of Cubs outfielder Steve Bartman, Jr. Home
run! Orioles win the series! You went pretty far for that joke, dude. The first part was serious. The second part was just being goofy, dude.  clearly. i mean cubs o's in the series? also.  i know a couple guys that play baseball at wesleyan, and they hate him. <blockquote />

El Mudo

06-02-2006, 06:30 PM

Baltimore has a baseball team?

FezPaul

06-02-2006, 06:42 PM

El Mudo wrote: Baltimore has a baseball team? The St. Louis Browns, Baseball team, moved to Baltimore, and became the Orioles, a bird.The Cleveland Browns, Football team, moved to Baltimore, and became the Ravens, a bird.What does it mean?

El Mudo

06-02-2006, 06:44 PM

Actually, if my history serves me correctly, the ORIGINAL Baltimore Orioles moved to New York in the early 20th century, becoming for a while the New York Highlanders, who then eventually changed their name to the New York Yankees

This message was edited by El Mudo on 6-2-06 @ 10:44 PM

El Mudo

06-02-2006, 06:47 PM

<a target='blank' href=http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/>And I was right</a>

New York Yankees Team Index

Team Index
Starters: Positional / Pitching - Players: Batting / Pitching
Leaders: Batting / Pitching - Managers - Attendance/Age/Parks - Amateur Drafts
BaseballAmerica.com: Franchise Executives

Played as

* New York Yankees (1913 - 2005) - 26 World Championships, 39 Pennants, and 45 Playoff Appearances
* New York Highlanders (1903 - 1912)
* Baltimore Orioles (1901, 1902)

Plethora

06-02-2006, 06:49 PM

FezPaul wrote: El Mudo wrote: Baltimore has a baseball team? The St. Louis Browns, Baseball team, moved to Baltimore, and became the Orioles, a bird.The Cleveland Browns, Football team, moved to Baltimore, and became the Ravens, a bird.What does it mean? <blockquote />  I can add only this to the equation -- Dinosaurs, a class of big pre-historic animals, avoided complete annihilation by moving to Baltimore and evolving into BIRDS

FezPaul

06-02-2006, 06:54 PM

El Mudo wrote: <a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/" target="blank">And I was right</a> New York Yankees Team Index Team Index Starters: Positional / Pitching - Players: Batting / Pitching Leaders: Batting / Pitching - Managers - Attendance/Age/Parks - Amateur Drafts BaseballAmerica.com: Franchise Executives Played as * New York Yankees (1913 - 2005) - 26 World Championships, 39 Pennants, and 45 Playoff Appearances * New York Highlanders (1903 - 1912) * Baltimore Orioles (1901, 1902) <li>Baltimore Orioles (1954 - 2005) - 3 World Championships, 6 Pennants, and 10 Playoff Appearances </li><li>St. Louis Browns (1902 - 1953) - 1 Pennant and 1 Playoff Appearance </li><li>Milwaukee Brewers (1901)</li>