OPIE & ANTHONY are back on FREE FM [Archive] - Page 2

Reephdweller

04-21-2006, 01:59 PM

Also, I listened to them this morning talk about being "pioneers" (with some very funny comments about panning for gold in midtown), and it struck me as odd how this is being spun - there are plenty of examples of people who do terestrial radio shows these days that are also on satellite (152 comes to mind), and before he locked into an exclusive deal with Sirius and Stern, Ferrell was having his show aired on both. All the Fox shows air on both (and don't they also air on XM and Sirius now too?)I definitely remember reading that back then in one of the radio news sites. Just yesterday I read the following from the Radio and Records website...The current scenario, as we understand it, has O&A cutting an unprecedented deal to broadcast on both terrestrial and satellite radio <a href="http://www.radioandrecords.com/Newsroom/2006_04_20/streettalk.asp">http://www.radioandrecords.com/Newsroom/2006_04_20/streettalk.asp</a> While I agree that others have done this, even Sean Hannitys terrestrial show I can listen to on ABC Radio on XM so it's not unprecedented but yet some in the media are calling it that, and who would blame O&A for exploiting that kind of statement?

marcymark

04-21-2006, 02:11 PM

evedder wrote: ThePointer wrote: All  references to Diamond Dave have been removed from the Free-FM website.  All gone    Bye- Bye i wonder how long it will take for the billboards to come down, and then for nortons fat face to be plastered all over the city.             NIGGAS IN BROOKLYN DONT KNOW WHO LIL JIMMY IS

narc

04-21-2006, 02:12 PM

I hope Opie brings back his wacky Spuds Buckley character. That takes me back to '93.

SatCam

04-21-2006, 02:37 PM

While I agree that others have done this, even Sean Hannitys terrestrial show I can listen to on ABC Radio on XM so it's not unprecedented but yet some in the media are calling it that, and who would blame O&A for exploiting that kind of statement?

Even DLR agrees...

http://members.sparedollar.com/joejbay/DavidLee.jpg

"they didn't bother to look at the weight requirements or anything, and this sank through their new flooring and did eighty-thousand dollars worth of damage to the arena floor. The whole thing had to be replaced. It came out in the press that I discovered brown M&M's and did eighty-five thousand dollars' worth of damage to the backstage area. Well, who am I to get in the way of a good rumor?"

Bulldogcakes

04-21-2006, 03:54 PM

BeerBandit wrote: Hottub wrote: FreeFm this morning. Nothing but music.No Dave, no commercials, nothing!!!That's not true. Diamond Dave was on this morning. I didn't listen long so I don't know if it was live or a replay, but bottom line is no flip yet. I was listening to Dave around 6:30, Then I put it back on at 9and there was nothing but music. Maybe he walked out halfway through the show. I'd love to find out from somewhere.  <blockquote />

mikeyboy

04-21-2006, 04:02 PM

Bulldogcakes wrote:  BeerBandit wrote: Hottub wrote: FreeFm this morning. Nothing but music.No Dave, no commercials, nothing!!!That's not true. Diamond Dave was on this morning. I didn't listen long so I don't know if it was live or a replay, but bottom line is no flip yet. I was listening to Dave around 6:30, Then I put it back on at 9and there was nothing but music. Maybe he walked out halfway through the show. I'd love to find out from somewhere.   <a href="http://radiouncensored.blogharbor.com/" target="_self">Apparently DLR was cut off after 20 minutes this morning</a>

Bulldogcakes

04-21-2006, 04:03 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: BTW... just so you guys know, I too am completely fucking perplexed how all of this is going to work. They must have an obligation to XM to do a show from 6-11, and FreeFM wants to have another show come in at 9 for some reason. Given all the money they spent on billboards and bus ads for DLR, and the poor ratings, and how quickly the show was cancelled, I'd guess they lost their shirts for this quarter and might want to save some money at least temporarily. If O+A get good ratings, and I dont doubt for a minute they will, everything will work out sooner or later. A year from today, I'd bet O+A are on from 6-11. And R+F will back on FreeFM somewhere, hopefully 7-11.   <blockquote />

Bulldogcakes

04-21-2006, 04:07 PM

mikeyboy wrote:<a target="_self" href="http://radiouncensored.blogharbor.com/">Apparently DLR was cut off after 20 minutes this morning</a> Nice find Mike. So I guess Dave was trying to do an "F.U." show, and they just yanked him.

DESERTEAGLE.50

04-21-2006, 04:30 PM

This really is just a huge power play for
OnA.  Its almost staggering that this has come about.  It
almost seems like DLR was a time-filler from the beginning and maybe
this thing with OnA has been stewing a while.

fezident

04-21-2006, 04:46 PM

Two things:1) Did Dave get the full eight million he was promised? 2) Does anyone have the (final) 20 minutes of the DLR morning show -- link or mp3?

booster11373

04-21-2006, 05:50 PM

These are not my words but kind of echo what I think about this whole thing.They're suing Stern for talking about satellite radio on their air, but now they've hired 2 guys who will talk about it all the time. I listened to O & A when they were an afternoon drive show, I was listening when they did what they did to get fired. This all sounds so complicated, because you're getting a bleeped, watered-down version of an uncensored show, so what's the point? From what I hear, you only get 3 hours of their regular show, but I'm not sure how long their uncut show is, probably 4-5 hours. How are they going to do this? Are they going to work clean for the first 3 hours and save their most objectionable stuff for after the 3rd hour? Are they going to keep it going uncensored with a long delay going to cut out objectionable material, but how could they guarantee 3 hours of show every day that way? Either way they're going to attract people to get away from terrestrial radio and go with an XM radio, setting themselves up for trouble with CBS, or they'll piss off the XM listeners by watering down the show they're actually paying money for. It all sounds like a losing proposition for both parties and shows that XM and CBS are grasping at straws. I only care about OandA in how it will effect Ron and Fez.

This message was edited by booster11373 on 4-21-06 @ 9:56 PM

Tenbatsuzen

04-21-2006, 07:44 PM

The only people who spin this as "bad" for either XM, CBS, O&A, or R&F have no idea what they are talking about.It's a winning situation for all parties involved.

BoondockSaint

04-21-2006, 08:00 PM

SinA

04-21-2006, 08:16 PM

If Ron and Fez get bumped back to only FM, I'll have to move back to New York.Nobody wants that.

HBox

04-21-2006, 08:19 PM

They're suing Stern for talking about
satellite radio on their air, but now they've hired 2 guys who will
talk about it all the time. I think the reason for the lawsuit was that Stern had certain performance bonuses in his contract that he did not disclose to CBS. So, he used airtime on CBS to promote his new job, and then had secret clauses that allowed him to profit from doing that. So CBS said "Hey, you used our airwaves to profit yourself without our knowledge or permission" (All allegedly of course) So CBS wants all of the money that Stern got from those bonuses, all of which add up to the hundreds of millions.I still don't like this deal, not one bit. I'll wait to hear the details however. 

This message was edited by HBox on 4-22-06 @ 12:20 AM

mikeyboy

04-21-2006, 08:21 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: The only people who spin this as "bad" for either XM, CBS, O&A, or R&F have no idea what they are talking about.It's a winning situation for all parties involved. Thank God Matty's here to tell everyone they are wrong.  <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/rolleyes.gif" border="0" />You seriously can't think of any scenarios where this will blow up badly?  Off the top of my head.For XM: The average listener doesn't listen to all 4 or 5 hours of a talk show, so the audience is content with three hours of O&A, so they not only don't gain subscribers, they lose them.  Their only high profile show that they can hold against Howard loses its lustre, because they are on free radio as well, so prospective satellite customers go to Sirius.For CBS: In a bid to keep its XM audience, O&A do a show that requires dumps on FM that goes uncut to the XM customers.  The FM listeners get frustrated from the chopiness and inability to follow certain bits and tunes out.For O&A: It's been nearly 4 years since they were last on broadcast radio.  Some of their listeners have likely given up and forgotten the show.  The ones who didn't probably followed them to XM.  As a result, it might take some time to rebuild their audience.  CBS is under a lot of pressure to fix the morning slot that Stern left, and maybe they don't give O&A the opportunity to rebuild and pull the plug on them before they can succeed.  Now O&A are damaged goods and suffer a major blow in their battle against Stern.For R&F: O&A tire of going from CBS to XM between the CBS and XM exclusive show.  CBS won't budge and says that they have to do the show from their studios.  O&A relent and do all five hours at CBS.  No more AFRO shows, so no exposure to CBS for R&F.  Also, XM suddenly realizes that there's only one show operating out of the studio where they cleared out the cubicles and did some renovations.  Plus, it's the show that gets less attention from XM, so XM gives R&F an ultimatum -- It's not cost-effective to maintain the 57th Street studio for R&F, so move the show to DC if you want to stay on XM.I'm not saying any of this will happen, but it's just to make a point.  Matty's arrogance on all things radio really bugs me sometimes.

Billy Staples

04-21-2006, 10:12 PM

as an ex insider, now outsider, thought about being an insider and May 12th will determine for awhile if an I stay an insider or an outsideris that all clear4 points which I may have missed in all these posts and I know this and sure of that1-Don't ONA have a 1 year to year contract with X/M?  If so that may come into play somewhere down the line, seeing how things work and $2- RE RNF...knowing it before and now we all see what a super agent Bob Eatman is, I would guess there is a standard part of a contract that may void this or that if not given what promised. It only makes good business sense.  Protecting and making your clients happy.See #3 regarding the following, if i did know anything and said it here, they'd have my head for posting this.Again  have not seen a big time radio contract, t again that is a possibility in a lot of major league contracts to protect and also serve as a awful nice bargaining chip if something gets violated.3- RE: a previous question as what major league radio talent isn't signed bu Bob Eatman.....well for one....ME...my name comes to mind!!!4- Are oatmeal cookies better alone or dipped in milk?   Is it alost time for a trip to pennsylvania again?

HBox

04-21-2006, 10:14 PM

It's not cost-effective to maintain the 57th Street studio for R&F, so move the show to DC if you want to stay on XM.XM just built a big facility down the street in the Time Warner building, so in that scenario they could just broadcast from there.

Coach

04-22-2006, 12:37 AM

<strike>For R&F: O&A tire of going from CBS to XM between the CBS and XM exclusive show.  CBS won't budge and says that they have to do the show from their studios.  O&A relent and do all five hours at CBS.  No more AFRO shows, so no exposure to CBS for R&F.  Also, XM suddenly realizes that there's only one show operating out of the studio where they cleared out the cubicles and did some renovations.  Plus, it's the show that gets less attention from XM, so XM gives R&F an ultimatum -- It's not cost-effective to maintain the 57th Street studio for R&F, so move the show to DC if you want to stay on XM</strike>Stupidest bunch of bunk EVER!!!! RAMOOOOOOONNEEEE!!!He jerks off to Journey Songs!!!

This message was edited by Coach on 4-22-06 @ 4:41 AM

IrishAlkey

04-22-2006, 03:01 AM

I think I missed something.

BeerBandit

04-22-2006, 03:32 AM

I'd hate to seem ingorant but, isn't Stern's studio in the Empire
State Building.  That's what their sweepers said, and I seem to
remember someone freaking out during 9-11 because they were in a the
ESB.

Grendel_Kahn

04-22-2006, 04:34 AM

BeerBandit wrote: I'd hate to seem ingorant but, isn't Stern's studio in the Empire
State Building. That's what their sweepers said, and I seem to
remember someone freaking out during 9-11 because they were in a the
ESB.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------  No
that's where the transmitter is.  Like WPLJ is broadcast from
MSG.  And Z100 was from the world trade center. The WFNY studio
and the XM studio are a few short blocks away from one another.

bobrobot

04-22-2006, 04:42 AM

Grendel_Kahn wrote: BeerBandit wrote:  isn't Stern's studio in the Empire State Building. That's what their sweepers said, and I seem to remember someone freaking out during 9-11 because they were in a the ESB.----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------No that's where the transmitter is.  It's also where King Kong has HIS offices...<img height="238" src="http://www.porthalcyon.com/features/200512/images/empirestate.jpg" width="360" border="0" />

This message was edited by bobogolem on 4-22-06 @ 8:45 AM

Reephdweller

04-22-2006, 04:50 AM

Mikey, you definitely raise some very good questions and thoughts on things that I hadn't thought of. Though personally I'm keeping a positive approach to this and thinking that this will ultimately work out very well for both O&A and Ron and Fez. If anything I see this as others have pointed out as a power play on O&A's part that I think they will use as a bargaining chip to get a multi-year contract deal from XM. They will use this to get XM to do more for them and promote them better and I think ultimately that bodes well for Ron and Fez as it will give them greater exposure to an even bigger audience down the road.One of the things that I haven't seen anyone talk about here yet (unless I missed it), is that it has been long rumored that CBS Radio was considering buying XM. If that's the case than perhaps this is the beginning of that move. If so perhaps a Free FM type station would be developed to showcase what is on XM to entice people to get XM. As in...a Free and sensored O&A may be good, but not as good as the UNcensored version, and don't think for a minute that O&A won't do teasers constantly on the Free version of the show for in-studio hijinks that ultimately happen on the XM side of the show. Knowing the way they operate I can totally see them doing that. I mean I'm just speculating, though I really do hope they address peoples concerns regarding Ron and Fez. Personally my hunch is that they'll be just fine but I would like to hear it from them.

booster11373

04-22-2006, 05:23 AM

Coach wrote: <strike>For R&F: O&A tire of going from CBS to XM between the CBS and XM exclusive show.  CBS won't budge and says that they have to do the show from their studios.  O&A relent and do all five hours at CBS.  No more AFRO shows, so no exposure to CBS for R&F.  Also, XM suddenly realizes that there's only one show operating out of the studio where they cleared out the cubicles and did some renovations.  Plus, it's the show that gets less attention from XM, so XM gives R&F an ultimatum -- It's not cost-effective to maintain the 57th Street studio for R&F, so move the show to DC if you want to stay on XM</strike>Stupidest bunch of bunk EVER!!!! RAMOOOOOOONNEEEE!!!He jerks off to Journey Songs!!!This message was edited by Coach on 4-22-06 @ 4:41 AM Ramone posts are even funnier then Ramone calls ha ha ha

Don Stugots

04-22-2006, 05:59 AM

<hr color="cococo" align="left">Billy Staples wrote: as an ex insider, now outsider, thought about being an insider and May 12th will determine for awhile if an I stay an insider or an outsideris that all clear4 points which I may have missed in all these posts and I know this and sure of that1-Don't ONA have a 1 year to year contract with X/M? If so that may come into play somewhere down the line, seeing how things work and $2- RE RNF...knowing it before and now we all see what a super agent Bob Eatman is, I would guess there is a standard part of a contract that may void this or that if not given what promised. It only makes good business sense. Protecting and making your clients happy.See #3 regarding the following, if i did know anything and said it here, they'd have my head for posting this.Again have not seen a big time radio contract, t again that is a possibility in a lot of major league contracts to protect and also serve as a awful nice bargaining chip if something gets violated.3- RE: a previous question as what major league radio talent isn't signed bu Bob Eatman.....well for one....ME...my name comes to mind!!!4- Are oatmeal cookies better alone or dipped in milk? Is it alost time for a trip to pennsylvania again?<hr color="cococo" align="left">

billy what happens on May 12th? If you dont want to say it here, then send me a PM and it will remain private, or you can send me a PM & tell me to mind my own business.

Tenbatsuzen

04-22-2006, 06:02 AM

mikeyboy wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: The only people who spin this as "bad" for either XM, CBS, O&A, or R&F have no idea what they are talking about.It's a winning situation for all parties involved. Thank God Matty's here to tell everyone they are wrong. <img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/rolleyes.gif" />You seriously can't think of any scenarios where this will blow up badly? Off the top of my head.For XM: The average listener doesn't listen to all 4 or 5 hours of a talk show, so the audience is content with three hours of O&A, so they not only don't gain subscribers, they lose them. Their only high profile show that they can hold against Howard loses its lustre, because they are on free radio as well, so prospective satellite customers go to Sirius.For CBS: In a bid to keep its XM audience, O&A do a show that requires dumps on FM that goes uncut to the XM customers. The FM listeners get frustrated from the chopiness and inability to follow certain bits and tunes out.[/quote]I'm going to stop you right there.  Who's to say that the average FM listener wouldn't get XM to hear the show in it's entireity?ANYTHING is better than Roth right now.Mikey, you're forgetting that CBS lost almost 80 percent of Stern's audience by going to Roth.  And Howard had a massively dumped out show.  So who's to say that the "choppiness" you think that will happen can't translate into more subs for XM?You guys are thinking that O&A are just there to promote themselves and high voltage.  What about the rest of the platform? For O&A: It's been nearly 4 years since they were last on broadcast radio. Some of their listeners have likely given up and forgotten the show. The ones who didn't probably followed them to XM. As a result, it might take some time to rebuild their audience. CBS is under a lot of pressure to fix the morning slot that Stern left, and maybe they don't give O&A the opportunity to rebuild and pull the plug on them before they can succeed. Now O&A are damaged goods and suffer a major blow in their battle against Stern.Carolla and Rover are doing just as badly as Roth.  But you want to know why CBS is sticking with them?  Because they are radio guys and they "get it", and CBS is giving them the time they need to let them grow.  And neither of their shows were as unlistenable as Roth's.Roth on the other hand was NOT a team player, and had a bad radio show.  Combined, that's total poison, hence why he was out in 4 months.O&A still have major market value in NYC, Philly, Boston, and Cleveland.  That's why they are having a time-delay show in Cleveland.  For R&F: O&A tire of going from CBS to XM between the CBS and XM exclusive show. CBS won't budge and says that they have to do the show from their studios. O&A relent and do all five hours at CBS. No more AFRO shows, so no exposure to CBS for R&F. Also, XM suddenly realizes that there's only one show operating out of the studio where they cleared out the cubicles and did some renovations. Plus, it's the show that gets less attention from XM, so XM gives R&F an ultimatum -- It's not cost-effective to maintain the 57th Street studio for R&F, so move the show to DC if you want to stay on XM.Please.  They'd do the show from Lincoln Center.  [/quote] I'm not saying any of this will happen, but it's just to make a point. Matty's arrogance on all things radio really bugs me sometimes.  My arrogance grows because of all these Nelly Nays

Earlshog

04-22-2006, 06:09 AM

Grendel_Kahn wrote: BeerBandit wrote: I'd hate to seem ingorant but, isn't Stern's studio in the Empire State Building. That's what their sweepers said, and I seem to remember someone freaking out during 9-11 because they were in a the ESB.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------  No that's where the transmitter is.  Like WPLJ is broadcast from MSG.  And Z100 was from the world trade center. The WFNY studio and the XM studio are a few short blocks away from one another.   Z100 never transnitted from the world trade center you are thinking of WKTU

marcymark

04-22-2006, 07:14 AM

WATCH MATTY SUMMER BRING'S VACATIONS

Tenbatsuzen

04-22-2006, 07:47 AM

To answer questions... Stern (I believe) broadcasts out of Sirius' office space.  I don't know where the broadcast dishes are to send the signal to the birds in space. Howard broadcast "from the top of the Howard Stern Building", which in reality, was K-Rock studios.  Just imaging/branding, nothing more. 
The Empire State Building is home to the following stations:
 <ul><li>FM: <a title="WFNY-FM" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WFNY-FM">WFNY-FM</a> 92.3, <a title="WPAT-FM" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WPAT-FM">WPAT-FM</a> 93.1 Paterson, <a title="WNYC-FM" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WNYC-FM&action=edit">WNYC-FM</a> 93.9, <a title="WPLJ" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WPLJ">WPLJ</a> 95.5, <a title="WQXR-FM" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WQXR-FM">WQXR-FM</a> 96.3, <a title="WQHT-FM" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WQHT-FM">WQHT-FM</a> 97.1, <a title="WSKQ-FM" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WSKQ-FM">WSKQ-FM</a> 97.9, <a title="WRKS-FM" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WRKS-FM">WRKS-FM</a> 98.7, <a title="WBAI" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WBAI">WBAI</a> 99.5, <a title="WHTZ" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHTZ">WHTZ</a> 100.3 Newark, <a title="WCBS-FM" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WCBS-FM">WCBS-FM</a> 101.1, <a title="WQCD" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WQCD">WQCD</a> 101.9, <a title="WNEW" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WNEW">WNEW</a> 102.7, <a title="WKTU" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WKTU">WKTU</a> 103.5 <a title="Lake Success, New York" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Success%2C_New_York">Lake Success</a>, <a title="WAXQ" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WAXQ">WAXQ</a> 104.3, <a title="WWPR-FM" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWPR-FM">WWPR-FM</a> 105.1, <a title="WCAA" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WCAA">WCAA</a> 105.9 Newark, <a title="WLTW" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WLTW">WLTW</a> 106.7, and <a title="WBLS" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WBLS">WBLS</a> 107.5.</li></ul>  Other stations broadcast out of 4 Times Square (Conde Nast) because they were displaced after 9/11.

Grendel_Kahn

04-22-2006, 08:03 AM

Z100 had sweepers saying from the top of "The Gorilla
Building"  so it looks like I was shown up.  Damn you
all.  Damn you all to helllllllll. As a side note :  I NEVER listened to WKTU.  Didn't match with my ( former) mullett.

Death Metal Moe

04-22-2006, 08:18 AM

Grendel_Kahn wrote: Z100 had sweepers saying from the top of "The Gorilla Building"  so it looks like I was shown up.   <img height="206" src="http://www.capcitycomedy.com/images/comedian_pics/patrice_oneal.gif" width="150" border="0" />"What the FUCK did you say Mother Fucker?!?!"

This message was edited by Death Metal Moe on 4-22-06 @ 12:18 PM

marcymark

04-22-2006, 08:39 AM

YOUR NOT INTO SPORTS ,YOU HATE HOWARD , WACKBAG DON'T DIG YOU ,JUST  POST ABOUT LIKE THINGS YOUR INTO NOT EVERY POST 500POST IN 2WEEKS PLUS WB GET A LIFE

mikeyboy

04-22-2006, 08:49 AM

marcymark wrote: YOUR NOT INTO SPORTS ,YOU HATE HOWARD , WACKBAG DON'T DIG YOU ,JUST  POST ABOUT LIKE THINGS YOUR INTO NOT EVERY POST 500POST IN 2WEEKS PLUS WB GET A LIFE <img height="720" src="http://www.epa.gov/sab/sge_course/images_sge/confused.jpg" width="394" border="0" />

FezPaul

04-22-2006, 08:52 AM

Earlshog

04-22-2006, 08:59 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  To answer questions... Stern (I believe) broadcasts out of Sirius' office space.  I don't know where the broadcast dishes are to send the signal to the birds in space. Howard broadcast "from the top of the Howard Stern Building", which in reality, was K-Rock studios.  Just imaging/branding, nothing more.  The Empire State Building is home to the following stations: <ul><li>FM: <a title="WFNY-FM" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WFNY-FM">WFNY-FM</a> 92.3, <a title="WPAT-FM" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WPAT-FM">WPAT-FM</a> 93.1 Paterson, <a title="WNYC-FM" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WNYC-FM&action=edit">WNYC-FM</a> 93.9, <a title="WPLJ" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WPLJ">WPLJ</a> 95.5, <a title="WQXR-FM" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WQXR-FM">WQXR-FM</a> 96.3, <a title="WQHT-FM" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WQHT-FM">WQHT-FM</a> 97.1, <a title="WSKQ-FM" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WSKQ-FM">WSKQ-FM</a> 97.9, <a title="WRKS-FM" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WRKS-FM">WRKS-FM</a> 98.7, <a title="WBAI" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WBAI">WBAI</a> 99.5, <a title="WHTZ" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHTZ">WHTZ</a> 100.3 Newark, <a title="WCBS-FM" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WCBS-FM">WCBS-FM</a> 101.1, <a title="WQCD" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WQCD">WQCD</a> 101.9, <a title="WNEW" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WNEW">WNEW</a> 102.7, <a title="WKTU" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WKTU">WKTU</a> 103.5 <a title="Lake Success, New York" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Success,_New_York">Lake Success</a>, <a title="WAXQ" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WAXQ">WAXQ</a> 104.3, <a title="WWPR-FM" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWPR-FM">WWPR-FM</a> 105.1, <a title="WCAA" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WCAA">WCAA</a> 105.9 Newark, <a title="WLTW" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WLTW">WLTW</a> 106.7, and <a title="WBLS" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WBLS">WBLS</a> 107.5.</li></ul>  Other stations broadcast out of 4 Times Square (Conde Nast) because they were displaced after 9/11. WKTU broadcast was automaticaly switched to Conde Nast after the towers fell (it was their backup transmitter)... The signal suffered greatly until they got a spot broadcasting from the Empire State Building a few months later...

This message was edited by Earlshog on 4-22-06 @ 1:02 PM

mikeyboy

04-22-2006, 09:01 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  mikeyboy wrote:    For R&F: O&A tire of going from CBS to XM between the CBS and XM exclusive show. CBS won't budge and says that they have to do the show from their studios. O&A relent and do all five hours at CBS. No more AFRO shows, so no exposure to CBS for R&F. Also, XM suddenly realizes that there's only one show operating out of the studio where they cleared out the cubicles and did some renovations. Plus, it's the show that gets less attention from XM, so XM gives R&F an ultimatum -- It's not cost-effective to maintain the 57th Street studio for R&F, so move the show to DC if you want to stay on XM.  Please.  They'd do the show from Lincoln Center.   <blockquote /> Fine.  Here's a less dire scenario.  As Ant mentioned on WB, O&A will now have the ability to go until noon if they so choose, which means that part of R&F's show gets displaced when they decided to run over, or R&F get a new shift.  Now, this could be something positive, like R&F getting moved to east coast pm drive.  However, it was made clear early on that either XM or O&A want O&A on in both drive times, so maybe R&F get relegated to noon-3:00, which is a step down, because the one selling point of 11-2 is that it overlaps with West Coast a.m. drive, and noon - 3 would more or less eliminate that overlap.Sorry for the gloom and doom.  Like I said, I'm not saying any of this will happen, but the overly positive folks ought to go into this with their eyes open.

Freakshow

04-22-2006, 09:39 AM

I love the fact the people keep posting that the ideal result would be Ron and Fez on Free FM from 7-11. If they stayed at JFK they would have been on Free FM from 7-11.

Tenbatsuzen

04-22-2006, 09:53 AM

Freakshow wrote: I love the fact the people keep posting that the ideal result would be Ron and Fez on Free FM from 7-11. If they stayed at JFK they would have been on Free FM from 7-11.    But they wouldn't be in NYC.

Tenbatsuzen

04-22-2006, 09:58 AM

mikeyboy wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: mikeyboy wrote: For R&F: O&A tire of going from CBS to XM between the CBS and XM exclusive show. CBS won't budge and says that they have to do the show from their studios. O&A relent and do all five hours at CBS. No more AFRO shows, so no exposure to CBS for R&F. Also, XM suddenly realizes that there's only one show operating out of the studio where they cleared out the cubicles and did some renovations. Plus, it's the show that gets less attention from XM, so XM gives R&F an ultimatum -- It's not cost-effective to maintain the 57th Street studio for R&F, so move the show to DC if you want to stay on XM. Please. They'd do the show from Lincoln Center. Fine. Here's a less dire scenario. As Ant mentioned on WB, O&A will now have the ability to go until noon if they so choose, which means that part of R&F's show gets displaced when they decided to run over, or R&F get a new shift. Now, this could be something positive, like R&F getting moved to east coast pm drive. However, it was made clear early on that either XM or O&A want O&A on in both drive times, so maybe R&F get relegated to noon-3:00, which is a step down, because the one selling point of 11-2 is that it overlaps with West Coast a.m. drive, and noon - 3 would more or less eliminate that overlap.Sorry for the gloom and doom. Like I said, I'm not saying any of this will happen, but the overly positive folks ought to go into this with their eyes open.   Again, we don't know what is going on.  Steve C. said on Foundry that a lot of what's being reported in the press is wrong.The idea of keeping O&A in afternoon drive was to expose O&A - the anchor show - to as many people as possible on the XM platform. Now, with O&A being exposed to audiences that are (does math in head) at least quintuple XM's total audience, perhaps there isn't a need to keep the O&A 3-7 replay.  I think a lot of people are over-reacting until we hear what the deal is on Monday. <blockquote />

SatCam

04-22-2006, 09:59 AM

Bulldogcakes wrote: mikeyboy wrote:<a target="_self" href="http://radiouncensored.blogharbor.com/">Apparently DLR was cut off after 20 minutes this morning</a> Nice find Mike. So I guess Dave was trying to do an "F.U." show, and they just yanked him. 

From what I've read, DLR did his show as usual (without calls, but much longer than 20 minutes). Then, towards the end of the show, they never came back from commercials (just music). I think CBS told him to do his good-byes at the end of the show, but didn't have any plans to actually let him get that far.

If the above is true, CBS is pretty fucking low...

mikeyboy

04-22-2006, 10:02 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  mikeyboy wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote:  mikeyboy wrote:   For R&F: O&A tire of going from CBS to XM between the CBS and XM exclusive show. CBS won't budge and says that they have to do the show from their studios. O&A relent and do all five hours at CBS. No more AFRO shows, so no exposure to CBS for R&F. Also, XM suddenly realizes that there's only one show operating out of the studio where they cleared out the cubicles and did some renovations. Plus, it's the show that gets less attention from XM, so XM gives R&F an ultimatum -- It's not cost-effective to maintain the 57th Street studio for R&F, so move the show to DC if you want to stay on XM.  Please. They'd do the show from Lincoln Center.  Fine. Here's a less dire scenario. As Ant mentioned on WB, O&A will now have the ability to go until noon if they so choose, which means that part of R&F's show gets displaced when they decided to run over, or R&F get a new shift. Now, this could be something positive, like R&F getting moved to east coast pm drive. However, it was made clear early on that either XM or O&A want O&A on in both drive times, so maybe R&F get relegated to noon-3:00, which is a step down, because the one selling point of 11-2 is that it overlaps with West Coast a.m. drive, and noon - 3 would more or less eliminate that overlap.Sorry for the gloom and doom. Like I said, I'm not saying any of this will happen, but the overly positive folks ought to go into this with their eyes open.   Again, we don't know what is going on.  Steve C. said on Foundry that a lot of what's being reported in the press is wrong.The idea of keeping O&A in afternoon drive was to expose O&A - the anchor show - to as many people as possible on the XM platform. Now, with O&A being exposed to audiences that are (does math in head) at least quintuple XM's total audience, perhaps there isn't a need to keep the O&A 3-7 replay.  I think a lot of people are over-reacting until we hear what the deal is on Monday. Nobody's overreacting.  I'm reacting to your pompous statements that anyone who thinks this isn't anything but a win-win situation for all parties involved doesn't know what they are talking about.  Is it premature to assume that any of my gloom and doom scenarios will come to fruition when we don't know anything?  Yes.  By the same token, it's entirely premature for you to act like you have the answers when we don't yet know anything.

SatCam

04-22-2006, 10:23 AM

As a follow up to my last post, here's a <a href="http://www.nypost.com/entertainment/64872.htm" title="NY Post story about the show">NY Post story about what transpired yesterday morning</a>

narc

04-22-2006, 10:28 AM

I'd love it if RnF were back in their old time slot and syndicated to DC. I'm sure they'd get higher ratings than whoever's on JFK now, and if they got to stay in New York, they wouldn't have to deal with the runaway bride.

SinA

04-22-2006, 11:02 AM

You don't like it, you lazy fucks?  Then DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!  XM 202 is back on DirecTV, but not because YOU wanted it back on.  The O&A pests are relentless with their calls and emails, and they got their message through to the execs, and got their show back on the air.You want a four hour show? You want a better time-slot?  The people that can do something about it aren't reading your posts, so find another way to let them know how you feel.<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="445" border="0"><tr><td colspan="2"> </td></tr><tr><td class="tBlackBold" valign="top">XM Headquarters</td><td class="tBlack" valign="top">1500 Eckington Place, NE Washington, DC 20002 Phone: 866-962-2557 Fax: 202-380-4500<a href="mailto:Highvoltage@xmradio.com">Highvoltage@xmradio.com</a></td></tr></table>Listener Care                         1-800-967-2346and maybe:<a href="mailto:eric.logan@xmradio.com" target="_self">eric.logan@xmradio.com</a> (This might not be real or active, but it's what is listed on wackbag)Obviously, if you were to call or write to XM, you would be doing it as a friendly, respectful fan of the Ron and Fez show.  Sorry for the hostility.  I just listened to the replay, and I feel vicarious frustration for Paul-O.

JimBeam

04-22-2006, 01:03 PM

I dont have the desire to look this up but how are/were O&A's numberssince they went to XM ?All I heard all day yesterday from Stern is how they are dying to go back to terrestrial radio as they've been a failure.Stern still keeps saying that Sirius is doing better then XM but all the articles I read say that XM is till #1.

Don Stugots

04-22-2006, 01:12 PM

<hr color="cococo" align="left">SinA wrote: You don't like it, you lazy fucks? Then DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! XM 202 is back on DirecTV, but not because YOU wanted it back on. The O&A pests are relentless with their calls and emails, and they got their message through to the execs, and got their show back on the air.You want a four hour show? You want a better time-slot? The people that can do something about it aren't reading your posts, so find another way to let them know how you feel.<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="445" border="0"><tr><td colspan="2"> </td></tr>*-- <tr>
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</tr> -*<tr><td class="tBlackBold" valign="top">XM Headquarters</td><td class="tBlack" valign="top">1500 Eckington Place, NE Washington, DC 20002 Phone: 866-962-2557 Fax: 202-380-4500<a href="mailto:Highvoltage@xmradio.com">Highvoltage@xmradio.com</a></td></tr></table>Listener Care 1-800-967-2346and maybe:<a href="mailto:eric.logan@xmradio.com" target="_self">eric.logan@xmradio.com</a> (This might not be real or active, but it's what is listed on wackbag)Obviously, if you were to call or write to XM, you would be doing it as a friendly, respectful fan of the Ron and Fez show. Sorry for the hostility. I just listened to the replay, and I feel vicarious frustration for Paul-O.<hr color="cococo" align="left">

i emailed both of those addresses the one to High Voltage came back, the one to E-lo didnt.

HBox

04-22-2006, 01:34 PM

JimBeam wrote: I dont have the desire to look this up but how are/were O&A's numberssince they went to XM ?All I heard all day yesterday from Stern is how they are dying to go back to terrestrial radio as they've been a failure.Stern still keeps saying that Sirius is doing better then XM but all the articles I read say that XM is till #1.  The satellite companies don't release their internal listening numbers, nor is their a very reliable way to track who is listening to what. O&A say they are doing well, but they say a lot of things, so just consider the source. XM still has almost twice as many subscribers as Sirius, but since Christmas Sirius has been adding more subscribers than XM, albeit by a very small margin. So for now XM's lead is slimming a bit. More concrete data will be coming soon when each company releases their first quarter subscriber numbers. An estimate would be that XM is somewhere over 6 millions subscribers and Sirius has somewhere above 3 million. I wouldn't believe what comes out of either O&A or Stern's mouth, although I'd believe O&A long before Stern. The short of it is that as of right now both companies are doing just fine.

Bulldogcakes

04-22-2006, 04:50 PM

HBox wrote:The short of it is that as of right now both companies are doing just fine. H-Box, I agreed with the rest of your post, but both companies are losing money like crazy.<a title="From Sirius' own site" target="_self" href="http://investor.sirius.com/ReleaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=187963">From Sirius' own site</a> SIRIUS reported a net loss of ($311.4) million, or ($0.23) per share,
for the fourth quarter of 2005, and a net loss of ($863.0) million, or
($0.65) per share, for the full-year.  Sirius lost close to a billion dollars last year despite (or maybe because of) the fact they added Stern <a title="XM's latest data " target="_self" href="http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060216/earns_xm_satellite.html?.v=10">XM's latest data </a>   AP 
XM Posts Wider 4Q Loss; Director Quits Thursday February 16, 10:09 pm ET
 By Seth Sutel, AP Business Writer

<table height="4" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td height="4"> </td></tr></table>XM Satellite Radio Holdings Posts Wider Fourth-Quarter Loss; Director Quits, Warning of 'Crisis'
NEW YORK (AP) -- XM Satellite Radio Holdings
Inc.'s losses soared in the fourth quarter on higher costs for
marketing and acquiring subscribers, and a director quit over
disagreements about the company's direction, warning of a looming
"crisis.""Given current course and speed there is, in my view, a significant
chance of a crisis on the horizon," Roberts wrote in the letter, which
the company disclosed in a regulatory filing. "Even absent a crisis, I
believe that XM will inevitably serve its shareholders poorly without
major changes now."    I haven't seen companies this healthy since the dot-com boom. Maybe they should both start selling dog food online. BTW-The company that makes the XM Roady, Delphi Communications, is also broke.           

This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 4-22-06 @ 9:08 PM

biscutt4

04-22-2006, 05:07 PM

somehow i think roberto has a hand in this or would it be east side.

HBox

04-22-2006, 05:30 PM

Bulldogcakes wrote: HBox wrote:The short of it is that as of right now both companies are doing just fine. H-Box, I agreed with the rest of your post, but both companies are losing money like crazy.<a href="http://investor.sirius.com/ReleaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=187963" target="_self" title="From Sirius' own site">From Sirius' own site</a> SIRIUS reported a net loss of ($311.4) million, or ($0.23) per share,
for the fourth quarter of 2005, and a net loss of ($863.0) million, or
($0.65) per share, for the full-year. Sirius lost close to a billion dollars last year despite (or maybe because of) the fact they added Stern <a href="http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060216/earns_xm_satellite.html?.v=10" target="_self" title="XM's latest data ">XM's latest data </a> AP 
XM Posts Wider 4Q Loss; Director Quits Thursday February 16, 10:09 pm ET
 By Seth Sutel, AP Business Writer

<table height="4" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td height="4"> </td></tr></table>XM Satellite Radio Holdings Posts Wider Fourth-Quarter Loss; Director Quits, Warning of 'Crisis'
NEW YORK (AP) -- XM Satellite Radio Holdings
Inc.'s losses soared in the fourth quarter on higher costs for
marketing and acquiring subscribers, and a director quit over
disagreements about the company's direction, warning of a looming
"crisis.""Given current course and speed there is, in my view, a significant
chance of a crisis on the horizon," Roberts wrote in the letter, which
the company disclosed in a regulatory filing. "Even absent a crisis, I
believe that XM will inevitably serve its shareholders poorly without
major changes now." I haven't seen companies this healthy since the dot-com boom. Maybe they should both start selling dog food online. BTW-The company that makes the XM Roady, Delphi Communications, is also broke. 

This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 4-22-06 @ 9:08 PM  That's to be expected though. XM should start turning a profit by the end of the year.

Bulldogcakes

04-23-2006, 03:55 PM

Looks like O&A's first show back on CBS will be on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Cumia" target="_self" title="Anthony's Birthday">Anthony's Birthday</a> Anthony (Anthony Cumia, b. <a title="April 26" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_26">April 26</a>, <a title="1961" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1961">1961</a>)  The stars have lined up to give us good radio. Woooowww. Cosmic dude.    BTW-45? Old bastard.

Billy Staples

04-23-2006, 04:44 PM

Bulldogcakes wrote: Looks like O&A's first show back on CBS will be on <a title="Anthony's Birthday" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Cumia" target="_self">Anthony's Birthday</a>  Anthony (Anthony Cumia, b. <a title="April 26" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_26">April 26</a>, <a title="1961" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1961">1961</a>)   The stars have lined up to give us good radio. Woooowww. Cosmic dude.    BTW-45? Old bastard.  young un

FezPaul

04-23-2006, 04:48 PM

Wow, I figured by the hints, and the things he talked about, we were close to the same age, but 9 days apart?

Bulldogcakes

04-23-2006, 04:50 PM

How bout we get Fez to call up and sing him "happy birthday" ?

SinA

04-23-2006, 08:14 PM

<a href="http://923freefm.com/" target="_self">check it out</a>

Marc with a c

04-23-2006, 08:18 PM

im on the edge of my seat.

Tenbatsuzen

04-23-2006, 08:18 PM

SinA wrote: <a target="_self" href="http://923freefm.com/">check it out</a>   From the context, you'd think it's the return of Don and Mike.

Reephdweller

04-24-2006, 01:23 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: From the context, you'd think it's the return of Don and Mike.Isn't that who we're talking about?

Sheeplovr

04-24-2006, 03:44 AM

it seams they are just playing opie and anthony related content on
krock like brian regan and renegades of funk and now sounds like a song
called hasbeen witch is actully more entertaining then what they are
playing on xm now 

This message was edited by Sheeplovr on 4-24-06 @ 7:45 AM

Tenbatsuzen

04-24-2006, 03:48 AM

Reefdweller wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: From the context, you'd think it's the return of Don and Mike.Isn't that who we're talking about?   Easy Reef.  We don't need Moe having an aneurysm.

curtoid

04-24-2006, 04:37 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: SinA wrote:   <a href="http://923freefm.com/" target="_self">check it out</a>From the context, you'd think it's the return of Don and Mike.Now, if it was Don and Mike, it would have also said, "Two guys in their 40s - one who does voices and the other who is always angry - who say their radio show is a satire of morning zoos, but really are what they once mocked."Errrrr...?

angelinad128

04-24-2006, 05:01 AM

O&A's show right now on sat & reg radio is in sync. There is to be a "special announcement" that answers all the questions

Sheeplovr

04-24-2006, 05:05 AM

why is there a ecko?

Doctor Manhattan

04-24-2006, 05:05 AM

curtoid

04-24-2006, 05:09 AM

angelinad128 wrote: O&A's show right now on sat & reg radio is in sync. There is to be a "special announcement" that answers all the questions Finally - someone who can explain string theory.

Marc with a c

04-24-2006, 05:09 AM

Sheeplovr wrote: why is there a ecko? anthony sounds rather loud and deep. i miss roth

Dirtybird12

04-24-2006, 05:12 AM

xm 202 stays live for O&A from 9am - noon?O&A live from FREE FM 6am - 9amThen they walk down to XM to go from 9- 11 or noon.

This message was edited by CircusFreak on 4-24-06 @ 9:14 AM

kdubya

04-24-2006, 05:13 AM

When do Ron and Fez come on now??

jagsfans

04-24-2006, 05:14 AM

CircusFreak wrote: xm 202 stays live for O&A from 9am - noon?O&A live from FREE FM 6am - 9amThen they walk down to XM to go from 9- 11 or noon.This message was edited by CircusFreak on 4-24-06 @ 9:14 AM Yeah I caught that too. WTF

LordJezo

04-24-2006, 05:25 AM

Three hours of censored radio a day. They said this wouldn't happen but now saying they can't do anything bad.  They are even worried about swearing.This doesn't sound good.. but it's only been 25 minutes, I hope they don't give in to the FCC like they are talking about doing now..

Doctor Manhattan

04-24-2006, 05:26 AM

Dirtybird12

04-24-2006, 05:30 AM

Anthony said something about FREE FM felt there would be more of an urge for the guys to curse of do something "bad" if they remained in the XM studio.

curtoid

04-24-2006, 05:40 AM

Is there an "over/under" of when they stop going to the XM studios - and end up doing their show from CBS?I swear, part of this feels completely like a con - like everyone has been played - that it was all set up from the start, by CBS, XM and Sirius, to keep their names and mentions out there - have O&A get fired (but not really since they were payed) only to come back and replace Howard (their plan all along) - who they decide should go to the smaller satellite company to build it up, but they know it will also help satellite and radio sales and interest in general.Pffft.

angelinad128

04-24-2006, 05:41 AM

40 miunutes & no commercial break yet

Doctor Manhattan

04-24-2006, 05:45 AM

curtoid wrote: I swear, part of this feels completely like a con - like everyone has been played - that it was all set up from the start, by CBS, XM and Sirius, to keep their names and mentions out there - have O&A get fired (but not really since they were payed) only to come back and replace Howard (their plan all along) - who they decide should go to the smaller satellite company to build it up, but they know it will also help satellite and radio sales and interest in general.  All this to Con Stern? That would be funny.<blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px"> angelinad128 wrote: 40 miunutes & no commercial break yet  [/quote]That's not going to fly for long on Commercial Radio

This message was edited by Doctor Manhattan on 4-24-06 @ 10:21 AM

Death Metal Moe

04-24-2006, 05:48 AM

O&A ALL THE WAY!THAT'S WHAT I SAY!!!

curtoid

04-24-2006, 05:51 AM

Doctor Manhattan wrote: curtoid wrote: I swear, part of this feels completely like a con - like everyone has been played - that it was all set up from the start, by CBS, XM and Sirius, to keep their names and mentions out there - have O&A get fired (but not really since they were payed) only to come back and replace Howard (their plan all along) - who they decide should go to the smaller satellite company to build it up, but they know it will also help satellite and radio sales and interest in general. All this to Con Stern? That would be funny.A half a billion dollar con??? Hardly - he's part of it.

MasterSoySauce

04-24-2006, 05:51 AM

i dont know there's something wrong and really odd about this i feel down about them moving but in my head its like i know i fell in love with the old show but i like the xm show more and liked it better.

Sheeplovr

04-24-2006, 05:52 AM

Ron and Fez Syndication now! who needs jd and elvis in the middle of the day they blow

EliSnow

04-24-2006, 05:53 AM

curtoid wrote: Doctor Manhattan wrote: curtoid wrote: I swear, part of this feels completely like a con - like everyone has been played - that it was all set up from the start, by CBS, XM and Sirius, to keep their names and mentions out there - have O&A get fired (but not really since they were payed) only to come back and replace Howard (their plan all along) - who they decide should go to the smaller satellite company to build it up, but they know it will also help satellite and radio sales and interest in general. All this to Con Stern? That would be funny.A half a billion dollar con??? Hardly - he's part of it.<img src="http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f373/EliSnow/xf_feature_lone.jpg" border="0" />

curtoid

04-24-2006, 05:55 AM

Sheeplovr wrote: Ron and Fez Syndication now! who needs jd and elvis in the middle of the day they blow YEAH!Let's eliminate all radios show except the ones we like! THEY DON'T NEED TO WORK, THOSE BASTARDS!

mikeyboy

04-24-2006, 06:05 AM

I just tuned in.  I forgot how annoying "welcome back" calls are.

mendyweiss

04-24-2006, 06:09 AM

Any word if they will be on WJFK in D.C.? THere is so much junk on, they got to get a slot here!

Death Metal Moe

04-24-2006, 06:09 AM

curtoid wrote: Sheeplovr wrote: Ron and Fez Syndication now! who needs jd and elvis in the middle of the day they blow YEAH!Let's eliminate all radios show except the ones we like! THEY DON'T NEED TO WORK, THOSE BASTARDS!We stick up for GOOD shows.  I don't give a flying fuck about JV and ELvis.  Go do hack fucking radio in some backwater radio station but put good radio on in NY.JV and Elvis are the Don and Mike of NY right now and they fucking eat dick.  Fuck them, I don't care where they go but I don't want them on in NY. If 92.3 is smart here, they'll simulcast more good shows and I may have a reason to turn their shit station back on.

LordJezo

04-24-2006, 06:17 AM

I wonder how bad the commercials are going to get.  If we need to deal with FM style commercial breaks once they start getting the advertisers on board it's going to blow even further.

Doctor Manhattan

04-24-2006, 06:25 AM

curtoid wrote: Doctor Manhattan wrote: curtoid wrote: I swear, part of this feels completely like a con - like everyone has been played - that it was all set up from the start, by CBS, XM and Sirius, to keep their names and mentions out there - have O&A get fired (but not really since they were payed) only to come back and replace Howard (their plan all along) - who they decide should go to the smaller satellite company to build it up, but they know it will also help satellite and radio sales and interest in general. All this to Con Stern? That would be funny.A half a billion dollar con??? Hardly - he's part of it.So who is being conned? Us? They are spending all this time and money to replace Stern with O&A and make sure that we know about XM and Sirius?Why? If they wanted O&A on in the mornings instead of Stern why go through all this? If they wanted us to know about XM and Siruis why not just spend that money on advertisements?And why would they not want to keep Stern on in the mornings? Isn't he a bigger money maker than O&A?

mikeyboy

04-24-2006, 06:28 AM

Doctor Manhattan wrote: curtoid wrote: Doctor Manhattan wrote: curtoid wrote: I swear, part of this feels completely like a con - like everyone has been played - that it was all set up from the start, by CBS, XM and Sirius, to keep their names and mentions out there - have O&A get fired (but not really since they were payed) only to come back and replace Howard (their plan all along) - who they decide should go to the smaller satellite company to build it up, but they know it will also help satellite and radio sales and interest in general. All this to Con Stern? That would be funny.A half a billion dollar con??? Hardly - he's part of it.So who is being conned? Us? They are spending all this time and money to replace Stern with O&A and make sure that we know about XM and Sirius?Why? If they wanted O&A on in the mornings instead of Stern why go through all this? If they wanted us to know about XM and Siruis why not just spend that money on advertisements?And why would they not want to keep Stern on in the mornings? Isn't he a bigger money maker than O&A?I thought the smilies in curtoid's post were implied.

Doctor Manhattan

04-24-2006, 06:35 AM

mikeyboy wrote: I thought the smilies in curtoid's post were implied.  Sarcasim doesn't always translate on a message board.

Se7en

04-24-2006, 06:43 AM

So this is the deal, huh?A more monumental DISAPPOINTMENT I couldn't have expected.

LordJezo

04-24-2006, 06:45 AM

I wonder if anyone will drop their XM subscription over this. For 18 months they talk about how bad FM is and how its the worst place to be.. now they are right in it again with a censored show.

Sheeplovr

04-24-2006, 06:46 AM

JV and Elvis are the Don and Mike of NY right now and they fucking eat dickI liked don and mike I wouldn't mind if they were onbut i tried out jv and elvis it confused me cause i thought i had z100 on and was like wheres the pop musici just want ron and fez to get on the normal radios to make them lots of money get fez off retard island type of money

curtoid

04-24-2006, 07:19 AM

Doctor Manhattan wrote: Sarcasim doesn't always translate on a message board.It doesn't?

wonderwoman

04-24-2006, 07:33 AM

I caught the 1st 10 minutes of O&A's ANNOUNCEMENT this morning on my way home from work and they said their going back to free FM stemming from a deal between CBS and XM and that their show will start at 6:oo am Then at 9 am go to the xm studio and finish their usual raunchy show. What concerned me was the comment they made about how their show could run all the way to 12:00.  If their show runs all the way till noon how is that going to affect The Ron and Fez show seeing as their show starts at 11:00 am. It's bad enough there only on for 3 hrs as it is, so does this mean the show is going get cut again timewise??  That would be really fucked up if that happens?? anyone knows anything let me know, thanks

SinA

04-24-2006, 07:46 AM

i think it'll turn out fine, as long as they agree to let the buddays' show run long if they got a good bit going

Doctor Manhattan

04-24-2006, 08:05 AM

curtoid wrote: Doctor Manhattan wrote: Sarcasim doesn't always translate on a message board.It doesn't?It did that time.

EliSnow

04-24-2006, 08:06 AM

LordJezo wrote: For 18 months they talk about how bad FM is and how its the worst place to be.. now they are right in it again with a censored show. Did you really believe it though?  You had to know that if they got the chance to take Howard's old spot, and could keep their XM gig, they would jump at it.  It's like Jay Leno wanting the Tonight Show.  You just have to go for it.

Plethora

04-24-2006, 09:16 AM

EliSnow wrote: LordJezo wrote: For 18 months they talk about how bad FM is and how its the worst place to be.. now they are right in it again with a censored show. Did you really believe it though? You had to know that if they got the chance to take Howard's old spot, and could keep their XM gig, they would jump at it. It's like Jay Leno wanting the Tonight Show. You just have to go for it.  <img width="95" height="120" border="0" src="http://www.columbo-site.freeuk.com/thumbnails2/stevengilborn.jpg" /> "It's Shabby. It's Used Goods..." Anyone? Anyone?

EliSnow

04-24-2006, 09:20 AM

Plethora wrote:  EliSnow wrote: LordJezo wrote: For 18 months they talk about how bad FM is and how its the worst place to be.. now they are right in it again with a censored show. Did you really believe it though? You had to know that if they got the chance to take Howard's old spot, and could keep their XM gig, they would jump at it. It's like Jay Leno wanting the Tonight Show. You just have to go for it.  <img height="120" src="http://www.columbo-site.freeuk.com/thumbnails2/stevengilborn.jpg" width="95" border="0" /> "It's Shabby. It's Used Goods..." Anyone? Anyone? It's from the movie the Late Show, which had Letterman's producer (and Carson's former producer) telling Dave that the Tonight Show was no longer what it was.  And you know what?   He was right and wrong.  Wrong because for most of America it was still Carson's Tonight Show, even if it really wasn't.

Plethora

04-24-2006, 09:25 AM

EliSnow wrote: It's from the movie the Late Show, which had Letterman's producer (and Carson's former producer) telling Dave that the Tonight Show was no longer what it was. And you know what? He was right and wrong. Wrong because for most of America it was still Carson's Tonight Show, even if it really wasn't. Good catch, even if I completely disagree with your analysis <img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smilewink.gif" /> I think the quote and sentiment are on point in this situation too, thanks for teeing it up. (crossing threads here, The Late Shift is a movie I will watch anytime it is on.)

This message was edited by Plethora on 4-24-06 @ 1:26 PM

EliSnow

04-24-2006, 09:30 AM

Plethora wrote:  Good catch, even if I completely disagree with your analysis <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smilewink.gif" border="0" /> I think the quote and sentiment is on point in this situation too, thanks for teeing it up. (crossing threads here, The Late Shift is a movie I will watch anytime it is on.)Let me clarify my analysis.  First, with regard to Opie and Anthony, I guess I was talking more about their desire being understandable as opposed to their decision being sound.   Just as Dave wanted the Tonight Show because it was Carson's show, even after Leno had the show for a year or too, so did Opie and Anthony want Howard's old spot.  Not because they idolized Howard as much as they realized that given it's spot in radio history, the time and place had huge significance.  So I can understand their desire, and why I can see them making this decision, especially, since they get to keep their XM gig at the same time.Second, with regard to my opinion about The Tonight Show, I do think that to a cerain degree after Leno had worked the show for a year or two, it was no longer Carson's show.  However, I think that mainstream America doesn't share the same opinion.And I agree that the Late Shift is a movie I'll watch whenever it's on.

This message was edited by EliSnow on 4-24-06 @ 1:32 PM

Don Stugots

04-24-2006, 10:05 AM

Plethora wrote:  EliSnow wrote: LordJezo wrote: For 18 months they talk about how bad FM is and how its the worst place to be.. now they are right in it again with a censored show. Did you really believe it though? You had to know that if they got the chance to take Howard's old spot, and could keep their XM gig, they would jump at it. It's like Jay Leno wanting the Tonight Show. You just have to go for it.  <img height="120" src="http://www.columbo-site.freeuk.com/thumbnails2/stevengilborn.jpg" width="95" border="0" /> "It's Shabby. It's Used Goods..." Anyone? Anyone? "its a broken show" love that movie.  I pictured this movie playing out  in my head the last few days.

SatCam

04-24-2006, 10:18 AM

This is the first phase of the New World Order

Fallon

04-24-2006, 10:18 AM

<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/newsroom/screen/pr_2006_04_24.html" target="_blank">OPIE & ANTHONY RETURN TO CBS RADIO BEGINNING WEDNESDAY, APRIL 26</a>So three hours at the CBS Radio studio, then they go to thier XM studio for another two? That's kind of retarded. <a href="http://www.xmradio.com/newsroom/screen/pr_2006_04_24.html" target="_blank"></a>

schwapp

04-24-2006, 10:21 AM

Fallon wrote: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.xmradio.com/newsroom/screen/pr_2006_04_24.html">OPIE & ANTHONY RETURN TO CBS RADIO BEGINNING WEDNESDAY, APRIL 26</a>So three hours at the CBS Radio studio, then they go to thier XM studio for another two? That's kind of retarded. <a target="_blank" href="http://www.xmradio.com/newsroom/screen/pr_2006_04_24.html"></a>   By "kind of" do you mean "the very definition of"? :)

Dirtybird12

04-24-2006, 10:26 AM

I didn't hear the whole o&a show today - did they ever get around to mentioning Ron and Fez at all?

Doctor Manhattan

04-24-2006, 10:26 AM

<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/programming/channel_page.jsp?ch=202&refsrc=homepage_bb">http://www.xmradio.com/programming/channel_page.jsp?ch=202&refsrc=homepage_bb</a>It's outrageous radio from Opie & Anthony, weekday mornings beginning at 6AM ET and continuing to Noon ET. It's 6 hours of cringe radio at its finest.I don't think it's going to be very cringy on regular radio, Jimmy isn't going to be able to have "Steve from Yellowstone" order Ramone to "give this cunt" various things when a bad guest is on the show.

EliSnow

04-24-2006, 10:33 AM

Doctor Manhattan wrote: <a href="http://www.xmradio.com/programming/channel_page.jsp?ch=202&refsrc=homepage_bb">http://www.xmradio.com/programming/channel_page.jsp?ch=202&refsrc=homepage_bb</a> It's outrageous radio from Opie & Anthony, weekday mornings beginning at 6AM ET and continuing to Noon ET. It's 6 hours of cringe radio at its finest.  I don't think it's going to be very cringy on regular radio, Jimmy isn't going to be able to have "Steve from Yellowstone" order Ramone to "give this cunt" various things when a bad guest is on the show.While they won't be able to do this specific joke, OA did cringe humor when they were back on WNEW.  I think that most of that humor could probably still appear on regular radio under the currently climate.

Dirtybird12

04-24-2006, 10:33 AM

wow 6 hours.  thats not overkill at all.golden tickets really are swell.

mikeyboy

04-24-2006, 10:34 AM

CircusFreak wrote: I didn't hear the whole o&a show today - did they ever get around to mentioning Ron and Fez at all? From what I heard, a couple of callers asked about R&F, and O&A didn't say anything specific about them.

SatCam

04-24-2006, 10:37 AM

CircusFreak wrote: wow 6 hours. thats not overkill at all.golden tickets really are swell.

Same thoughts here. How long can these guys keep up six hours of radio? Even with breaks that's gotta be close to five hours.

Now that they have a gig on terrestrial radio, you'd think O&A'd give R&F (the guys who can ONLY be heard on XM) more time to do a show

FezPaul

04-24-2006, 10:42 AM

Why is it a Fait Accompli, that O&A are going to fuck over R&F?

schwapp

04-24-2006, 10:42 AM

SatCam wrote: CircusFreak wrote: wow 6 hours. thats not overkill at all.golden tickets really are swell. 

Same thoughts here. How long can these guys keep up six hours of radio? Even with breaks that's gotta be close to five hours.

Now that they have a gig on terrestrial radio, you'd think O&A'd give R&F (the guys who can ONLY be heard on XM) more time to do a show   All the terrestrial breaks...the walking from one building to another break...the fact that they only promised that their show would go until 11am (meaning likely worst-of stuff from 11:01am-12pm)...they're not doing 5 hours of on-air work.

schwapp

04-24-2006, 10:44 AM

FezPaul wrote: Why is it a Fait Accompli, that O&A are going to fuck over R&F?   See R&F's comments that they are being treated like step-children (likely a touch of tongue-in-cheek there) and the announced schedule change that even Opie (when speaking about Bubba the Love Gimp) said is one of the worst spots in radio.

FezPaul

04-24-2006, 10:54 AM

Okay, you talked me into it. I'm goin' gloom 'n' doom."This Golden Ticket's turning into a golden shower."-Fez (during the first XM AFRO show).

Dirtybird12

04-24-2006, 10:56 AM

SatCam wrote:       How long can these guys keep up six hours of radio? considering most of their show consists of -playing clips of other people working - I'd say they can do 6 hours easily. Gonna be hell on the  cart machine tho - or whoever edits all those "clips" from other shows.yeah I know - it's digital,. no carts... nevermind.

This message was edited by CircusFreak on 4-24-06 @ 2:58 PM

Ndugu

04-24-2006, 11:10 AM

"WHY WONT WICKY FIX THE TELEPHONES" LOL ZOMG HILARIOUS LOL

SatCam

04-24-2006, 11:12 AM

All the terrestrial breaks...the walking from one building to another break...the fact that they only promised that their show would go until 11am (meaning likely worst-of stuff from 11:01am-12pm)...they're not doing 5 hours of on-air work.

Oh ok... I neglected to factor these

CircusFreak wrote: SatCam wrote: How long can these guys keep up six hours of radio? considering most of their show consists of -playing clips of other people working - I'd say they can do 6 hours easily. Gonna be hell on the cart machine tho - or whoever edits all those "clips" from other shows.yeah I know - it's digital,. no carts... nevermind.


Still, how long can they play the same clips?

Marc with a c

04-24-2006, 11:13 AM

SatCam wrote:  Still, how long can they play the same clips? until sex for sam 4

JPMNICK

04-24-2006, 11:24 AM

I was always a much bigger fan of O&A than R&F. then when O&A got the boot, i fell in love with R&F and was so excited with both shows on XM. But i must say that this is such a hypocritacal move for O&A. they TRASHED terrestrial radio and how much it sucked and blah blah blah. and through all that, they are basically doing a terrestral radio show that is being broadcase on XM. its no different than Hannity who's show is on XM. 6 hours a day is going to be hell for them to do, esp. because there are going to be a lot of pissed off XM fans when they stop hearing cursing and start hearing censoring

TheKnicks23

04-24-2006, 11:30 AM

XM's scheduling with this new deal is ABSURD.  Not only are
Opie and Anthony on Mornings and Afternoon Drive on BOTH coasts, but
now their show is 2x longer than Ron and Fez.Its too bad XM
doesn't release any kind of numbers, because there is no way OnA have
this many more listeners than Ron and Fez do.  I saw a recent post
on Wackbag where even the dirtiest pests admit to listening to Ron and
Fez everyday.I'd really like to understand the logic of putting
RnF in the 2 worst listenable time slots (overnights is not plausible)
with HALF the show of OnA when they have this large of a following. It
goes beyond ridiculous with scheduling.  WHY is there a worst of
hour at the end of the 7-11 replay?  The difference of 11pm and
midnight is pretty drastic, yet there seems to be no logic in any of
Ron and Fez's show scheduling.  Theres no reason that RnF couldn't
have gone from 11-3 (now 12-4).  At this point, they have so
little exposure, I'm not exactly sure why they were even hired.For
a while I wanted them to stay on 202 for AFRO shows.  We've heard
maybe 2 hours in 8 months, so obviously that is NOT a benefit and needs
to stop being mentioned.  Get Ron and Fez the fuck off of 202,
theres no room for them with OnA's ego.

schwapp

04-24-2006, 11:42 AM

TheKnicks23 wrote: XM's scheduling with this new deal is ABSURD. Not only are
Opie and Anthony on Mornings and Afternoon Drive on BOTH coasts, but
now their show is 2x longer than Ron and Fez.Its too bad XM
doesn't release any kind of numbers, because there is no way OnA have
this many more listeners than Ron and Fez do. I saw a recent post
on Wackbag where even the dirtiest pests admit to listening to Ron and
Fez everyday.I'd really like to understand the logic of putting
RnF in the 2 worst listenable time slots (overnights is not plausible)
with HALF the show of OnA when they have this large of a following. It
goes beyond ridiculous with scheduling. WHY is there a worst of
hour at the end of the 7-11 replay? The difference of 11pm and
midnight is pretty drastic, yet there seems to be no logic in any of
Ron and Fez's show scheduling. Theres no reason that RnF couldn't
have gone from 11-3 (now 12-4). At this point, they have so
little exposure, I'm not exactly sure why they were even hired.For
a while I wanted them to stay on 202 for AFRO shows. We've heard
maybe 2 hours in 8 months, so obviously that is NOT a benefit and needs
to stop being mentioned. Get Ron and Fez the fuck off of 202,
theres no room for them with OnA's ego.   Honestly...I know O&A have more fans on the station, likely...but let's remember that R&F were having the phone problems much more often than O&A, so they at least have more listeners hit the phones more often. :)

MobCounty

04-24-2006, 11:55 AM

It's outrageous radio from Opie & Anthony, weekday mornings beginning at 6AM ET and continuing to Noon ET. It's 6 hours of cringe radio at its finest.  I don't think it's going to be very cringy on regular radio, Jimmy isn't going to be able to have "Steve from Yellowstone" order Ramone to "give this cunt" various things when a bad guest is on the show.I fuggin love XM for the cringe content.  I noticed they (oanda) have been practicing not using swear words.  Instead of saying shit, they now say 'S'. Twice, instead of saying cunt they said 'the C word', while I type, I just heard them say 'f u all' instead of fuck you all.For someone who only listened to oanda through XM, they will contradict a lot of what they have been saying if they back too far away from cringe humor.

schwapp

04-24-2006, 12:21 PM

MobCounty wrote: It's outrageous radio from Opie & Anthony, weekday mornings beginning at 6AM ET and continuing to Noon ET. It's 6 hours of cringe radio at its finest. I don't think it's going to be very cringy on regular radio, Jimmy isn't going to be able to have "Steve from Yellowstone" order Ramone to "give this cunt" various things when a bad guest is on the show.I fuggin love XM for the cringe content. I noticed they (oanda) have been practicing not using swear words. Instead of saying shit, they now say 'S'. Twice, instead of saying cunt they said 'the C word', while I type, I just heard them say 'f u all' instead of fuck you all.For someone who only listened to oanda through XM, they will contradict a lot of what they have been saying if they back too far away from cringe humor.   Yeah...that's the replay from the terrestrial years...using letters instead of words doesn't suck so bad...but the problem is that the FCC is supposedly cracking down on implied cursing as well now...so no "F U all" will be allowed, I think.

JPMNICK

04-24-2006, 12:22 PM

The more i read about this, the more pissed I get. This is such hypocrital bullshit! after Citadel was trying this with them, they admitted to making their show worse. THEN they proceeded to trash regular radio for a few months. NOTHING HAS CHANGED and all the sudden they are going to go back to radio. I know they have a chip on their shoulder and something to prove. And I know this must mean a boatload of money, and I am happy for them in that respect. But the content of their show is going to suffer. The only saving grace is that in order to make people think XM is worth it, they will go SO FAR over the top in their 2 hour window to make it worth it. If not, i think i am punching out of XM.

BoondockSaint

04-24-2006, 12:29 PM

How exactly is it a triumph for them to be doing their show from Howard's old studio?  He left.  Infinity would have loved for him to stay.  Isn't this more of "Hey we lost Howard so let's go to plan b"And I can't wait to hear them doing FreeFM commercials just like the ones they ripped on.

This message was edited by BoondockSaint on 4-24-06 @ 4:30 PM

JPMNICK

04-24-2006, 12:32 PM

I think it is hysterical that they have to be on Free-FM which is the format the trashed the most. I really hope they do not try to be all "anti-establishment" and try to act to cool for the room

torker

04-24-2006, 12:34 PM

A Quick O&A Discussion. 04/24/06. 9:25am Howard took a call from a guy who said that he's listening to Opie and Anthony and they were talking about how they're sitting in Howard's old chair and how it stinks. He was also saying that they did say that they were glad they weren't the guys who followed Howard right after he left. He said they're also claiming that they're reinventing radio by doing both terrestrial radio and satellite at the same time. Howard said that it should be interesting to see how CBS does now. Howard gave the guys some advice and suggested that they define themselves and not make it all about him. They're sitting in David Lee Roth's chair right now, not Howard Stern's. He said that the more those guys, and all of the other radio guys out there, talk about him, the more it reminds people that they're on SIRIUS. Howard said that this lawsuit with CBS is really dragging him down. They're still defining themselves through him and using his ''Join the Revolution'' slogan for their Free FM stations. <a href="http://marksfriggin.com/news.htm#mon" target="_blank">source</a>

joeyballsack

04-24-2006, 02:55 PM

So..now I can listen to the same kind of radio that I can hear on Ch 152 on 202 ?How long till they have David Lawrence on 202 ?

Bulldogcakes

04-24-2006, 04:51 PM

JPMNICK wrote: The more i read about this, the more pissed I get. This is such hypocrital bullshit!   JPMNIICK, for you and everyone else that has a problem with O&A doing this, here's a quote from Opie from about a year agoFrom Wikipedia Initially, the show was offered to XM subscribers at a premium cost of
$1.99 a month. In April 2005, "High Voltage" became part of the basic
XM subscription. There are no numbers available with respect to the
number of premium subscribers. Hughes gave some indication, however,
when he told the Long Island Press in 2006, "we went from having a show
that was syndicated in 17 major markets to having a few thousand
listeners." Its an absolute no brainer what they're doing. And everybody got turned on to the show round here from TERRESTRIAL WNEW, now its not good enough, gonna suck. Please.   <blockquote />

Tenbatsuzen

04-24-2006, 04:51 PM

Some thoughts.  Are O&A being hypocrites?No.  If O&A had completely abandoned XM to anchor FreeFM, then yes.  But remember - O&A destroyed satellite radio when they were on WNEW.  They didn't forsee going there, but the circumstances and climate dictated they come back there.  O&A destroyed FreeFM.  They could have NEVER EVER EVER foreseen going there in a hybrid format until the offer was presented.  The circumstances and climate dictated they come back there.  Are O&A leaving Ron and Fez out to dry? No.  Despite certain factions on this board trying to make a mountain out of a molehill from every perceived slight on the show,  NOBODY knows how this is going to work out!  Nobody - unless you're an XM employee. Do you think I'm happy about the fact that R&F are in mid-days?  Do you people REALIZE that I am one of the most ardent supporters of Ron and Fez, and I face SUSPENSION AND POSSIBLE TERMINATION OF MY JOB if I listen to them at work?  Yet I still support the show in the ways I can.  Because that's what fans do. I have always been of the mindset that R&F should be on from 7-11.  But maybe that's not what Ron and Fez want.  People seem to forget that.  People seem to forget that Ron has at least one child that's still quite young.  Perhaps the 11-2 or 12-3 slot still gives Ron the time to spend time with his kid(s). I sound like a broken record when I say this, but Ron and Fez came to XM of their own volition.  They know what they wanted to do.  XM hired them because of the quality of their show, and because Opie and Anthony pretty much dictated that they should. I don't think O&A are leaving them out to dry.  If one of the shows on free-fm fails, and O&A are kicking ass, then O&A can offer their services.Whose to say that FreeFM won't play a time-delay version of R&F late at night, exposing the show to a bigger audience?  Whose to say ANYTHING?  That's the whole point - we don't know what XM and CBS has up their sleeve - we didn't even know about this until a month ago, so things happen fast.   People want to act like that O&A are the "bad" guys, who are out to fuck with Ron and Fez and want to beat them down.Can I tell you something honestly?  If I didn't like someone, I wouldn't want them working with me. I would think O&A would be the same way.  Otherwise, 202 would be filled with Leykis and D&M.  Will this be bad for the O&A show?It's too early to tell.  I don't think it will be.  In one fell swoop, O&A went from a platform of 10 million people to a platform of 50 million.  I don't know about you, but that is NOT a bad thing.  With a show that is as listener interactive (and reliant on the listeners for material) like O&A is, a massive growth of the audience is not a bad thing.As for content - I can deal with the show with or without the language.  Since the XM show will be pre-dump, as I said, a dumped show may be a calculated move to get more people on XM to see what happens. I actually enjoy O&A more thought-provoking discussions on current events, then hearing some C-List porn whore shove a wiffle bat in her snatch.  So again, it's not a bad thing for FreeFM. Long spot breaks.Again, they actually have to SELL 20 minutes of commercials first before it happens.  And if that happens, that's what XM's Hitlist, Highway 16, etc. is for.  Advantage: XM.  O&A inherited "damaged goods".It's better to have a Lexus that's got some dings, scratches, and two flat tires than driving a brand new Hyundai. <

Bulldogcakes

04-24-2006, 04:57 PM

They could have NEVER EVER EVER foreseen going
there in a hybrid format until the offer was presented. The
circumstances and climate dictated they come back there.  Just to nitpick, I dont doubt for a second that when O&A signed with XM, they had it put in their contract that if an opening came up on terrestrial, they would be able to to do it without XM preventing them. So I think they planned for this day allllll along. Their agent is no dummy.In one fell swoop, O&A went from a platform of 10 million people to a platform of 50 million. I'll post this againFrom WikipediaInitially, the show was offered to XM subscribers at a premium cost of
$1.99 a month. In April 2005, "High Voltage" became part of the basic
XM subscription. There are no numbers available with respect to the
number of premium subscribers. Hughes gave some indication, however,
when he told the Long Island Press in 2006, "we went from having a show
that was syndicated in 17 major markets to having a few thousand
listeners." From Opie's own mouth.  

This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 4-24-06 @ 9:01 PM

trackstand

04-24-2006, 05:19 PM

Murray the K?

joeyballsack

04-24-2006, 05:22 PM

I still dont see how any of this is good for us...the listener. We now have a censored show. We lose.We will now have to deal with longer breaks. I have already paid for the show once, so now I am going to have to sit through 20 minutes of commercials or best of material ? We lose.What about the deal is a winner for those of us that only listen on XM ?

Reephdweller

04-24-2006, 05:26 PM

We will now have to deal with longer breaks. I have already paid for the show once, so now I am going to have to sit through 20 minutes of commercials or best of material ? We lose.Good point, though something tells me that the commercial radio breaks won't necessarily be the XM version breaks...I could be wrong, but I think they will try real hard to make people want to get XM for the full O&A experience.

joeyballsack

04-24-2006, 05:30 PM

Since all we can really do is guess about most of this, I am guessing they will probably do what they did in the early days of the XM shows, which was to play comedy bits and best of spots during the break. I can live with that if they change the spots up a lot more than they did back in the day. Hearing the same Brian Regan/Carlin bit over and over gets a little old also. Since they have their old clips now, they should have a bunch more material to play to keep things fresh.

Bulldogcakes

04-24-2006, 05:31 PM

Reefdweller wrote:   I think they will try real hard to make people want to get XM for the full O&A experience.   For the next 6 months. Their contract runs out in September with XM. We'll see what both they and XM want to do then.

Reephdweller

04-24-2006, 05:39 PM

For the next 6 months. Their contract runs out in September with XM. We'll see what both they and XM want to do then.   I think that one of the reasons they did this was to make a power play so that they could get XM to give them a multi-year deal, and I think they'll get it,

Bulldogcakes

04-24-2006, 05:47 PM

Actually that wasn't where I was going with that. People raise a legitimate point saying "Why listen to a watered down show on XM I could get for free on 92.3? I dont see the marriage with XM being long term, unless O&A just figure "the more ways people can listen the better". But doing 2 shows for six hours is alot of time to fill. And FreeFM will want them to eventually do the 6-11 thing Stern did if their ratings are good. Which leaves XM out in the cold. Right now XM is a negotiating tool for O&A to get as good a deal as possible out of FreeFM, but if they have to choose between them, its a no brainer business wise.

Tenbatsuzen

04-24-2006, 05:48 PM

In one fell swoop, O&A went from a platform of 10 million people to a platform of 50 million.  I'll post this againFrom Wikipedia Initially, the show was offered to XM subscribers at a premium cost of
$1.99 a month. In April 2005, "High Voltage" became part of the basic
XM subscription. There are no numbers available with respect to the
number of premium subscribers. Hughes gave some indication, however,
when he told the Long Island Press in 2006, "we went from having a show
that was syndicated in 17 major markets to having a few thousand
listeners."  From Opie's own mouth. 

    Will you PLEASE stop posting that out-of-context blurb?  Opie was referencing the first month of the show.Even if O&A had 50,000 listeners, that's still a profit of ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH when they are on premium.  My reference to "10 million people" to "50 million people" is a reference from the entire XM platform - THE ENTIRE PLATFORM - to the ENTIRE LISTENING AUDIENCE of the markets they are syndicated to.  O&A brought R&F in to XM, O&A got back on directv, O&A are not in 7 markets in a hybrid format.  Yes, they're a bunch of fucking failures.

Tenbatsuzen

04-24-2006, 05:49 PM

Bulldogcakes wrote: Reefdweller wrote: I think they will try real hard to make people want to get XM for the full O&A experience. For the next 6 months. Their contract runs out in September with XM. We'll see what both they and XM want to do then.    September?  August.

Reephdweller

04-24-2006, 05:51 PM

<img height="350" src="http://www.osirusonline.com/oaonxm.jpg" width="725" border="0" />For all those that like to be so critical of this move and like to complain, this image from the main XM page says it all. They never once before this got much more than a small graphic in the corner of the XM home page. Now they are featured among the rest of the XM content. Looks to me like they're starting to get the respect they've been after. I take this as a victory and a sign that more good is to come.

Death Metal Moe

04-24-2006, 05:52 PM

When are Ron and Fez done with XM?  Am I going to have to wait for a new deal with a new place to interact with them live again?  I just even more responsibility at my job, I'm not going to be listening nearly as much as before, and before was like an hour here and there.This is fucking gay.  Why am I even paying for this?

tele7

04-24-2006, 05:53 PM

joeyballsack wrote: Since all we can really do is guess about most of this, I am guessing they will probably do what they did in the early days of the XM shows, which was to play comedy bits and best of spots during the break. I can live with that if they change the spots up a lot more than they did back in the day. Hearing the same Brian Regan/Carlin bit over and over gets a little old also. Since they have their old clips now, they should have a bunch more material to play to keep things fresh. They now have to re-introduce themselves to a brand new audience.  Odds are we will be hearing alot of repeat bits. I hope that's not the case though. As for me, I can do without Mousetrap Nutsack Challenge 2.

FezPaul

04-24-2006, 05:55 PM

Death Metal Moe wrote: When are Ron and Fez done with XM?  Am I going to have to wait for a new deal with a new place to interact with them live again?  I just even more responsibility at my job, I'm not going to be listening nearly as much as before, and before was like an hour here and there.This is fucking gay.  Why am I even paying for this?Liquid Metal?

Death Metal Moe

04-24-2006, 05:57 PM

FezPaul wrote: Death Metal Moe wrote: When are Ron and Fez done with XM?  Am I going to have to wait for a new deal with a new place to interact with them live again?  I just even more responsibility at my job, I'm not going to be listening nearly as much as before, and before was like an hour here and there.This is fucking gay.  Why am I even paying for this?Liquid Metal?It's OK.  I won't bash it, but my iPod still beats it.  I didn't get XM to have some metal DJ spin stuff I may or may not like, I got it for Ron and Fez.  Period.

Death Metal Moe

04-24-2006, 05:58 PM

telecaster7 wrote: joeyballsack wrote: Since all we can really do is guess about most of this, I am guessing they will probably do what they did in the early days of the XM shows, which was to play comedy bits and best of spots during the break. I can live with that if they change the spots up a lot more than they did back in the day. Hearing the same Brian Regan/Carlin bit over and over gets a little old also. Since they have their old clips now, they should have a bunch more material to play to keep things fresh. They now have to re-introduce themselves to a brand new audience.  Odds are we will be hearing alot of repeat bits. I hope that's not the case though. As for me, I can do without Mousetrap Nutsack Challenge 2.  Well with 6 hour shows being replayed all fucking day, it's gonna be hard to get away from it.

Bulldogcakes

04-24-2006, 05:58 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:Will you PLEASE stop posting that out-of-context blurb? Opie was referencing the first month of the show.Even if O&A had 50,000 listeners, that's still a profit of ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH when they are on premium. XM gets nothing? No other expenses whatsoever? I wish I lived in Disneyworld, too. And nobody knows how many listeners they have. Its not released. We do know that XM is losing money like crazy, and so is Sirius. Other than that, its all speculation. My reference to "10 million people" to "50 million people" is a reference from the entire XM platform - THE ENTIRE PLATFORM - to the ENTIRE LISTENING AUDIENCE of the markets they are syndicated to. O&A brought R&F in to XM, O&A got back on directv, O&A are not in 7 markets in a hybrid format. Yes, they're a bunch of fucking failures. I never implied they were. My only point is if you have a choice between Satellite and Free radio, its a no brainer business wise. Especially for a show like theirs which at its peak had a fraction of Sterns listeners. If people want to bitch about the quality of the show, I think its silly but they're entitled to thier opinion.    

This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 4-24-06 @ 10:03 PM

mikeyboy

04-24-2006, 05:59 PM

Bulldogcakes

04-24-2006, 06:00 PM

Death Metal Moe wrote: This is fucking gay. Why am I even paying for this?   Ding ding ding!Thats why I dont think this marriage will last.

Death Metal Moe

04-24-2006, 06:04 PM

mikeyboy wrote: Death Metal Moe wrote: When are Ron and Fez done with XM?  Am I going to have to wait for a new deal with a new place to interact with them live again?  I just even more responsibility at my job, I'm not going to be listening nearly as much as before, and before was like an hour here and there.This is fucking gay.  Why am I even paying for this?Be careful what you wish for.  If they aren't on XM, who's to say that they don't end up in Tampa, Chicago, Atlanta, Toronto, etc. where you have no ability to hear the show.At least I won't be paying some station in Atlanta to NOT hear the fucking show, which is what I do now with XM it seems.

FezPaul

04-24-2006, 06:05 PM

Death Metal Moe wrote: FezPaul wrote: Death Metal Moe wrote: When are Ron and Fez done with XM?  Am I going to have to wait for a new deal with a new place to interact with them live again?  I just even more responsibility at my job, I'm not going to be listening nearly as much as before, and before was like an hour here and there.This is fucking gay.  Why am I even paying for this?Liquid Metal?It's OK.  I won't bash it, but my iPod still beats it.  I didn't get XM to have some metal DJ spin stuff I may or may not like, I got it for Ron and Fez.  Period.Your will, Sire, is the will of the Kingdom.

Tenbatsuzen

04-24-2006, 06:05 PM

Death Metal Moe wrote: It's OK. I won't bash it, but my iPod still beats it. I didn't get XM to have some metal DJ spin stuff I may or may not like, I got it for Ron and Fez. Period.   So in the span of 48 hours, you flipped from "I'll just have ot see what happens" Moe to "GRRR, ARGH I'M SO ANGRY!!" Moe?

Bulldogcakes

04-24-2006, 06:05 PM

Be careful what you wish for.  If they aren't
on XM, who's to say that they don't end up in Tampa, Chicago, Atlanta,
Toronto, etc. where you have no ability to hear the show. 
  Free FM streams, so you'll probably get it one way or another.   

This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 4-24-06 @ 10:06 PM

HBox

04-24-2006, 06:05 PM

For the next 6 months. Their contract runs out in September with XM. We'll see what both they and XM want to do then.their contract runs out in August as previously mentioned, and it was a 3 year deal, and from the way O&A talk about it, there is a rollover option every year that is solely on XM's side. The only way O&A leave is if Xm doesn't want them, and after today, it certainly doesn't sound like they want to get rid of them anytime soon.

Reephdweller

04-24-2006, 06:06 PM

Am I going to have to wait for a new deal with a new place to interact with them live again?  I just even more responsibility at my job, I'm not going to be listening nearly as much as before, and before was like an hour here and there. This is fucking gay.  Why am I even paying for this? Just so you know, I almost never hear either show live. Once in a while on my lunch break I hear maybe 30 minutes of Ron and Fez live, other than that I mostly hear through replays or other means. I don't like it but it's the cards I've been dealt with the job I have. Do I wish I could hear it live, sure thing. But ultimately if I get to hear the show one way or the other I'm happy. If you hate it so much and it bothers you just cancel the service. Do yourself a favor and save some money. If I don't like something or if something bothered me in the way that it seems to bother some of you I would cancel it. Fact is, I love the service, I've driven through several states with XM playing all the way through and it's a pleasure. I've popped on XM when I was San Diego and got to hear the show. I love the service, I love the offerings. I love XM. Perhaps this whole "pay for radio" concept isn't for you. Cancel the service because it just isn't right for you and probably never will. If you have to have such instant gratification that you can't wait a few weeks or months to see how things pan out then just end the service already.I mean I get the argument, and I want an answer to things just as much as you do, but for the boys I'm willing to be patient and see what happens next.

SinA

04-24-2006, 06:08 PM

this thread is gay.<a href="http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyid=2006-04-24T181123Z_01_N24282025_RTRUKOC_0_US-MEDIA-CBS-RADIO.xml" target="_self">however...</a>  <hr size="3" /> which says:"It's really kind of cool that the company that blew you out had to call you off the bench," Cumia told Reuters in a telephone interview."and"XM President and Chief Executive Office Hugh Panero said the syndication deal gives his company, which boasts more than 6.5 million subscribers, an additional revenue stream and greater exposure for one of its top 10 shows."<hr size="3" />1.  I didn't know they actually BLEW Anthony?2.  R&F might get a good bump from all this, as many of you guys thought.3.  I feel stupid about what I wrote in my email to E-Lo, but I don't regret sending it altogether.

Death Metal Moe

04-24-2006, 06:09 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  Death Metal Moe wrote: It's OK. I won't bash it, but my iPod still beats it. I didn't get XM to have some metal DJ spin stuff I may or may not like, I got it for Ron and Fez. Period.So in the span of 48 hours, you flipped from "I'll just have ot see what happens" Moe to "GRRR, ARGH I'M SO ANGRY!!" Moe?Yep, it happened that quick.  2 days ago I thought O&A would end at 11 and everything would kinda be the same.  NOW O&A shoved Ron and Fez into the same slot they made fun of Stern for shoving Bubba.  No one considers Ron and Fez in that place it seems.  Damn fucking right I'm Angry Moe now.

Tenbatsuzen

04-24-2006, 06:10 PM

A watered down O&A show is still better than (edit) most things on morning radio. (/edit) Moe, why are you complaining? If you got it for Ron and Fez, they are still basically in the same time slot. Why should you give a crap about west coast drive time? Makes no difference to you. 

This message was edited by Tenbatsuzen on 4-24-06 @ 10:21 PM

Death Metal Moe

04-24-2006, 06:10 PM

<img height="100" src="http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f281/FezPaul/sig%20pics/bloody_moe.jpg" width="297" border="0" />  FezPaul wrote:  HA!  Thanks FezPaul.  That made a little happier tonight.

Tenbatsuzen

04-24-2006, 06:11 PM

Moe, did you even give the SLIGHTEST consideration that R&F *WANT* to be in that slot?

Death Metal Moe

04-24-2006, 06:11 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: A watered down O&A show is still better than anything else on radio.Moe, why are you complaining?  If you got it for Ron and Fez, they are still basically in the same time slot.  Why should you give a crap about west coast drive time?  Makes no difference to you. The 11-1 window was a time I could sneak on XM or just listen on my 12-1 lunchtime.  They took an hour away, and this just brings all the shit back up again.  Like the horrible replay time and the lack of any respect for Ron and Fez's timeslot.

Death Metal Moe

04-24-2006, 06:12 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Moe, did you even give the SLIGHTEST consideration that R&F *WANT* to be in that slot? Well then, maybe they should directly address that on their show, so we both know for sure.

Bulldogcakes

04-24-2006, 06:13 PM

HBox wrote:  For the next 6 months. Their contract runs out in September with XM. We'll see what both they and XM want to do then. their contract runs out in August as previously mentioned, and it was a 3 year deal, and from the way O&A talk about it, there is a rollover option every year that is solely on XM's side. The only way O&A leave is if Xm doesn't want them, and after today, it certainly doesn't sound like they want to get rid of them anytime soon.  Even if they were do you think they'd announce it? Tell everyone who's a fan to cancel now and avoid the rush? <blockquote />

Tenbatsuzen

04-24-2006, 06:14 PM

Death Metal Moe wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: A watered down O&A show is still better than anything else on radio.Moe, why are you complaining? If you got it for Ron and Fez, they are still basically in the same time slot. Why should you give a crap about west coast drive time? Makes no difference to you. The 11-1 window was a time I could sneak on XM or just listen on my 12-1 lunchtime. They took an hour away, and this just brings all the shit back up again. Like the horrible replay time and the lack of any respect for Ron and Fez's timeslot.   Poor you.  Suck it up, get a myfi, listen on the weekends, etc. Be even happy you can LISTEN to Ron and Fez at work.

Death Metal Moe

04-24-2006, 06:14 PM

You know what, I gotta get offline again.  I went out before, got a new PSP game, thought a break would clear my mind but I'm just going from Wackbag to Ronfez getting angrier and angrier and I can't take it anymore.I'm fucking pissed off to no end tonight.  I want Ron and Fez back in a time I can interact with them live.  XM has fucked them in my opinion.  Good night.

HBox

04-24-2006, 06:14 PM

Death Metal Moe wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: Moe, did you even give the SLIGHTEST consideration that R&F *WANT* to be in that slot? Well then, maybe they should directly address that on their show, so we both know for sure.  That sounds like wonderful radio. Maybe R&F should dedicate an entire show to what they really want so their paranoid, vengeful listeners know exactly when they should get their pitchforks and torches ready.

Tenbatsuzen

04-24-2006, 06:15 PM

Death Metal Moe wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: Moe, did you even give the SLIGHTEST consideration that R&F *WANT* to be in that slot? Well then, maybe they should directly address that on their show, so we both know for sure.   When have you EVER heard R&F talk about their contract, deep into their personal lives, or anything like that?You've NEVER heard Ron or Fez mention their significant others more than "my chick".  Ron NEVER EVER talks about his kids.   You do NOT get the same openness from R&F that you get from O&A.

Bulldogcakes

04-24-2006, 06:16 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: A watered down O&A show is still better than anything else on radio.  Amen. Again, I have to laugh at all these people who got TURNED ON to O&A on WNEW who are now complaining that a terrestrial show wont be good.  <blockquote />

FezPaul

04-24-2006, 06:23 PM

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f281/FezPaul/evil_nurse.jpgThat was a very good session today, I think we made some real progress.

Reephdweller

04-24-2006, 06:23 PM

Death Metal Moe wrote: You know what, I gotta get offline again.  I went out before, got a new PSP game, thought a break would clear my mind but I'm just going from Wackbag to Ronfez getting angrier and angrier and I can't take it anymore.I'm fucking pissed off to no end tonight.  I want Ron and Fez back in a time I can interact with them live.  XM has fucked them in my opinion.  Good night.I guess what you're saying is that ultimately it's all about what YOU want and what's best for you. How do you or I or any of us know what kind of discussions happened between the shows. I am completely confident that both shows are so friendly with one another that they actually had discussions about this and that they decided what the best course of action was for all. Enough with the analogies that Ron and Fez are weak little puppies caught in the rain and accept that ultimately this is a business and they made business decisions. Is it even possible that Ron and Fez may have been offered the 7-10 spot and decided they like afternoon radio? Is it possible they like it the way it is, and unlike a great many here they looked at it like it was just an hour later. I like you Moe, but if you can't accept the fact that it isn't about you and you can't accept that they are all adults who have made business decisions then go back to your PSP already.

TheMojoPin

04-24-2006, 06:28 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: A watered down O&A show is still better than anything else on radio. The hell it is.  This site exists to prove otherwise.

Tenbatsuzen

04-24-2006, 06:32 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: A watered down O&A show is still better than anything else on radio. The hell it is. This site exists to prove otherwise.   Mojo, considering my job, re-read my revised statement.  I was typing w/o thinking.

Tenbatsuzen

04-24-2006, 06:35 PM

Reefdweller wrote: Death Metal Moe wrote: You know what, I gotta get offline again. I went out before, got a new PSP game, thought a break would clear my mind but I'm just going from Wackbag to Ronfez getting angrier and angrier and I can't take it anymore.I'm fucking pissed off to no end tonight. I want Ron and Fez back in a time I can interact with them live. XM has fucked them in my opinion. Good night.I guess what you're saying is that ultimately it's all about what YOU want and what's best for you. How do you or I or any of us know what kind of discussions happened between the shows. I am completely confident that both shows are so friendly with one another that they actually had discussions about this and that they decided what the best course of action was for all. Enough with the analogies that Ron and Fez are weak little puppies caught in the rain and accept that ultimately this is a business and they made business decisions. Is it even possible that Ron and Fez may have been offered the 7-10 spot and decided they like afternoon radio? Is it possible they like it the way it is, and unlike a great many here they looked at it like it was just an hour later. I like you Moe, but if you can't accept the fact that it isn't about you and you can't accept that they are all adults who have made business decisions then go back to your PSP already.    QFT.  If you can afford a PSP, you can afford a myfi.  I'm sick and tired of Moe leading the one-man brigade about how the show doesn't fit into his schedule.You wanna swing dicks?  Here goes.  I'm a huge fan of the Ron and Fez show.  I got the career advice that led me down the path I am today, and I'M MARRYING A GIRL THAT I MET THROUGH THE FUCKING SHOW!Do I complain?  NO!  I accept it, and work with it so it works for me.  I learned my lesson from the WNEW fiasco that complaining and writing letters doesn't really do a lot in the end, and that time could be better spent trying to make a more positive solution.

jax

04-24-2006, 06:47 PM

Bulldogcakes wrote:    Be careful what you wish for.  If they aren't on XM, who's to say that they don't end up in Tampa, Chicago, Atlanta, Toronto, etc. where you have no ability to hear the show.     Free FM streams, so you'll probably get it one way or another.   This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 4-24-06 @ 10:06 PM Yes but where they broadcast from has an impact on the show they do. They sound happier, to me anyway, to be in NYC and I'm not saying the WJFK shows weren't great but still I think they sound better/happier based here so I would hate to see them go to another market.  DC was far enough.  How about a similar deal to O&A's - they take over vj and elvis' slot and simulcast over xm.

shamus mcfitzy

04-25-2006, 01:06 AM

More than appropriate that my first post on this site was about Opie and Anthony getting fired and that now i've been drawn back for their return. (wow i am geektastic) I haven't listened to a full show of theirs since they got fired (I'm lazy and still convinced that that satellite radio thing is the governments doing), so with that said i'm literally giddy (nipples-hard giddy). This may be because i haven't listened to their show and don't know "what it has become". Now some of these posts are feeding my worst fears: that maybe something i loved during my teenage years has come back and is just a shell of its former self, causing me to feel like a douchebag for ever liking it in the first place. 50% of me is thinking that O and A will fail and completely tarnish their legacy (in my head or otherwise) and that they'll retreat back to XM having failed to slay the Old Yentyl dragon that i think Howard has become. But the other half of me says that i'll love the show, stay up until 9AM to listen to it and that in a year Ron and Fez could be brought over and replace JV and Elvis. (Which I listen to regularly on replay from 4 to 6. And I mean they are kinda the new Don and Mike, but i have a confession: I used to listen to them to! I know i'm a jackass but i like to have something on in the background while i play X-Box and....hey, I don't have to justify myself to you people!.....and while i know that is quite wrong, i can't say i feel ashamed to listen to Booker and Jake and Jackie [the latter of which i believe to be the best little show since The Ron and Fez.com]. They are fairly kickass). And I could be in the minority but if the show ends up having a "to be continued on XM" feeling to it like I suspect it might, I may actually buy XM because of it. Of course I also obviously see that some people will stop listening to XM also, but i don't think I'm alone. O and A have it written in their contract that they can promote the XM show, so I think it could bring new listeners (losing more old XM listeners though). The optimistic half of me really thinks that Ron and Fez could be back on terrestial radio in NY is just a year (hey come to think of it, maybe Oand A can get Radio Chick fired again, not that i dislike her, but it'd be more nostalgia) Ahhh.......patented double line segway, ive missed you so. As for getting to the XM studios if thats how they're gonna do it, i don't know if this is possible, but maybe they could stack some commercials for the end of the show? Of course that gives the Free FM listeners 2 hours 40 minutes of show, but it doesn't fuck over the XM audience as much. Plus i think DJs run out of the studio as fast as they can anyway, so i don't think its implausible for them to easily get to and fro in 15 minutes or so. As for not being able to curse, while i've only heard a few hours total of the XM show in my dads van (kid touchin van), i kinda liked the use of letters in the olden days (which if they ban that im done with radio). Who can forget the rendition of "Best Friends" where Stephen Lynch said he wanted to C on Tyke's sister's chin and F her in the A, I certainly can't. I mean I don't think that's gonna lose them many listeners. I sure hope O and A still have something in the tank other than cursing. (Although i can imagine how Jimmy Norton will be watered down now, especially with the way he says cunt.)  And just like McDonald's and Coke was scared to advertise with Stern because of his humor, how do you think advertisers are going to react to "The Church Sex Guys", even IF they bring in better numbers than Roth.  i may be the only guy "on the board" (really very occasional lurking can't be considered on the board i don't think) who has listened to Free FM from 10 AM to 6AM (20 hours, i didn't invert it) and until maybe last week (possibly even this Monday morning) i had never

curtoid

04-25-2006, 05:20 AM

This is such hypocrital bullshit! after Citadel was trying this with them, they admitted to making their show worse. THEN they proceeded to trash regular radio for a few months. NOTHING HAS CHANGED and all the sudden they are going to go back to radio.  How exactly is it a triumph for them to be doing their show from Howard's old studio?  He left.  Infinity would have loved for him to stay.  Isn't this more of "Hey we lost Howard so let's go to plan b"QFT - in the middle of all the spin from the apologists.A watered down O&A show is still better than (edit) most things on morning radio. (/edit)Yay! Watered down radio! The revolution is won! Woo! Hoo! I wish I had clappy hands to applaud how edgy Watered Down Radio will be! Yippee! Poor you.  Suck it up, get a myfi, listen on the weekends, etc.Never gets old - the most obnoxious thing ever said on here, especially said to someone who just finished saying that his i-Pod is still better than his XM (something I agree with 100%)Do I complain?  NO!  I accept it, and work with it so it works for me.  I learned my lesson from the WNEW fiasco that complaining and writing letters doesn't really do a lot in the end, and that time could be better spent trying to make a more positive solution.So everyone should just be like you and be content with a bad situation? What about me - where this move is actually BETTER for me - I can finally hear the first hour, where I couldn't before? I DO NOT GET WHERE PEOPLE THINK IT IS AN ATTACK ON THEM BECAUSE THEY EXPRESS THEIR OPINION:You wanna swing dicks?  Here goes.  I'm a huge fan of the Ron and Fez show.  I got the career advice that led me down the path I am today, and I'M MARRYING A GIRL THAT I MET THROUGH THE FUCKING SHOW!Then why are you getting so mad at a fan of that show for expressing an opinion? You do NOT get the same openness from R&F that you get from O&A. And yet - Ron and Fez do a more honest show, imo.  For all those that like to be so critical of this move and like to complain, this image from the main XM page says it all. They never once before this got much more than a small graphic in the corner of the XM home page.Actually - that's not true, Reef. They did have that exact banner space in their flash opening maybe about a year ago, for about 2 days. It was a color version of their current promotional picture, but without Jimmy visable.  <span style="font-size: 7.5pt; color: black; font-fam

Reephdweller

04-25-2006, 05:32 AM

Why is it filibustering if some people aren't negative about it.As for the additional programming for O&A, believe it or not XM202 really is all about O&A.Do I want more Ron and Fez? Yes. Do I wish there were more replays? Yes. Do I realize this has all been about O&A all along? Yes.I'm not being arrogant about this either, just realistic.

Doctor Manhattan

04-25-2006, 05:37 AM

For all those that like to be so critical of this move and like to complain, this image from the main XM page says it all. They never once before this got much more than a small graphic in the corner of the XM home page.  Actually - that's not true, Reef. They did have that exact banner space in their flash opening maybe about a year ago, for about 2 days. It was a color version of their current promotional picture, but without Jimmy visable. And that "small graphic in the corner" was pretty good placement for O&A during the first 9 months or so when they started at XM. The design of the web page was different then, it wasn't such a small graphic and it was there 24/7 for months. That's pretty good when you realize that XM isn't the "O&A Radio Network".

Reephdweller

04-25-2006, 05:42 AM

And that "small graphic in the corner" was pretty good placement for O&A during the first 9 months or so when they started at XM. The design of the web page was different then, it wasn't such a small graphic and it was there 24/7 for months. That's pretty good when you realize that XM isn't the "O&A Radio Network".True, and it was a little bigger than the graphic they had for Ron and Fez when they came to XM.

curtoid

04-25-2006, 05:44 AM

Reefdweller wrote: Why is it filibustering if some people aren't negative about it.When I cam on this morning there were three pages of the same 4 people all trying to making the same point - confusing "negative" with "frustrated." Whenever someone says "boo" about certain topics, the attacks and excuses and accusations of people being negative come out - and all by the same group. I often disagree with Moe, but I like the dude and I thought last night was really embarrassing the way he was singled out and attacked.

Reephdweller

04-25-2006, 05:48 AM

I didn't attack Moe at all. I can't speak for others, though I was trying to make a point that in my opinion people are being too negative too soon. I'm willing to wait a little to see how it all works out so I voiced that. I should have a right to do that as the plenty of pissed off people have a right to voice their opinions the other way.

curtoid

04-25-2006, 06:02 AM

Reefdweller wrote: I didn't attack Moe at all. I can't speak for others, though I was trying to make a point that in my opinion people are being too negative too soon. I'm willing to wait a little to see how it all works out so I voiced that. I should have a right to do that as the plenty of pissed off people have a right to voice their opinions the other way. It was more than just singling out one person that bugged me about last night, but the sheer volume of posts, almost in a way to bury the concerns by flooding it with a focused opinion, which is why I used the term "fillerbuster." Hell, I was accused of that myself on here a number of times.  The only thing I singled you out on specificly, though, was the thing about the banner. I remember it only because it was up for such a brief period of time, and i kept looking for it again and they never put it up. Anyway, you and I will have to disagree on the "negative" aspect - I don't think that people venting that this is a bad thing for R&F is all that horrible. People are frustrated, and R&F listeners have had to adapt and be disappointed in the past, so letting off a little steam I don't think is that wrong.

Reephdweller

04-25-2006, 06:13 AM

Point taken. I was just offering a different view point what I percieve and un-just (for now) negativity. I just feel people are jumping the gun.

curtoid

04-25-2006, 06:22 AM

Reefdweller wrote: I just feel people are jumping the gun. And maybe they are, but after the laundry list of things that have happened I think in this case it shouldn't be too stunning that they did. A lot of listeners have felt that have already been very patient - at some point the promises need to be backed up with something - anything.

Plethora

04-25-2006, 08:17 AM

Reefdweller wrote: Do I want more Ron and Fez? Yes. Do I wish there were more replays? Yes. Do I realize this has all been about O&A all along? Yes.  "Do I need you for this interview? No.  I'm doing it myself." - L. Ron Bennington

Plethora

04-25-2006, 08:21 AM

curtoid wrote:... the sheer volume of posts, almost in a way to bury the concerns by flooding it with a focused opinion ...   Ding ding ding! <img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/clap.gif" />

Death Metal Moe

04-25-2006, 08:27 AM

You know what, this fucking site BLOWS sometimes.If I'm not getting attacked by some faggots who think they have the right to tell me what I should be posting or sticking their nose in business that isn't theirs, I'm getting attacked for my opinions and concerns.Thank you Curtoid for what you said, but I'm used to people trying to tell me what I'm doing is wrong, and they always get ignored.  If I tried to ajdust my posting to the liking of others I'd be this crazy asshole posting a different way everyday.  I do what I want.  I win you lose. (not you curtoid.)But before you fuckfaces accuse me that defending myself is turning this thread about me, I'll stop.  I wouldn't want to offend your delicate little feelings with my opinions.Ron and Fez have been disrespected.  We were told AGAIN AND AGAIN that this shit timeslot was TEMPORARY when they signed to XM, and it's bullshit.  Opie likes to remind us that big things are in the works for the boys, and they're not.  I shouldn't have to buy all kinds of shit to hear the show.  I want to interact with it live, like we did on WNEW and like what was hinted at when they signed to XM.Good day.

MobCounty

04-25-2006, 09:14 AM

Man, I hope they don't get crapped on.However, red flags are starting to pop up for me too.  Every time in my life someone has assured me "Don't worry, this is going to be soooo great for us!" one of two things end up happening. #1 they really mean 'Themselves' instead of 'Us' and I end up screwed or #2 they are trying to talk a shitty situation into better situation.If something is truly great, you don't have to tell everyone over and over how great it is.  They should be able to tell good it is by just hearing the data.  IMO, Don't fuckin talk about 'it'.. Do 'it'..

curtoid

04-25-2006, 10:23 AM

Death Metal Moe wrote: You know what, this fucking site BLOWS sometimes.If I'm not getting attacked by some faggots who think they have the right to tell me what I should be posting or sticking their nose in business that isn't theirs, I'm getting attacked for my opinions and concerns.Thank you Curtoid for what you said, but I'm used to people trying to tell me what I'm doing is wrong, and they always get ignored.  If I tried to ajdust my posting to the liking of others I'd be this crazy asshole posting a different way everyday.  I do what I want.  I win you lose. (not you curtoid.)But before you fuckfaces accuse me that defending myself is turning this thread about me, I'll stop.  I wouldn't want to offend your delicate little feelings with my opinions.Ron and Fez have been disrespected.  We were told AGAIN AND AGAIN that this shit timeslot was TEMPORARY when they signed to XM, and it's bullshit.  Opie likes to remind us that big things are in the works for the boys, and they're not.  I shouldn't have to buy all kinds of shit to hear the show.  I want to interact with it live, like we did on WNEW and like what was hinted at when they signed to XM.Good day.Moe - wasn't trying to bogart the hate or fight yer battles - as I've said from the start, the thing that has pissed me off more than just about anything has been the attitude of "just shut up and trust us" (from the fans who know as little as the rest of us, not shows) which we have done for a year now, with very few returns, and getting caught up reading the thread this morning just lit me up on my own.I really (!!!) want to wait and see what happens - I don't have the time or energy to speculate like i did a year or so ago, and it just doesn't seem as fun as it once did. In the end, I am sure R&F will be in good shape - when they signed on to be radio people, they knew it was a gypsy kind of life. Timeslots, stations, markets change, but they are still R&F, and they are still funnier than hell. There are very, very few of these radio people who have the luxery to have the kind of security of going and doing what they want, where they want and when they want. In many ways, the ones that ARE the "one market" shows really have it figured out. We can just hope that there are others who have their best interest in mind, and that there really is something behind these "big things" we keep getting promised.I am not predicting doom and gloom - i just wish there was something remotely in good faith i can hang my hat on today - in lew of that, I will grumble but plug on.

Tenbatsuzen

04-25-2006, 10:36 AM

Death Metal Moe wrote:  Ron and Fez have been disrespected.  We were told AGAIN AND AGAIN that this shit timeslot was TEMPORARY when they signed to XM, and it's bullshit.  Opie likes to remind us that big things are in the works for the boys, and they're not.  I shouldn't have to buy all kinds of shit to hear the show.  I want to interact with it live, like we did on WNEW and like what was hinted at when they signed to XM.This is my new favorite replacement for "What does Earl do for the show"?1) Ron and Fez knew what they were getting into.2) We know, from all the shit that O&A have gone through, that things take time at XM.3) R&F have only been at XM for 8 months.4) Ron and Fez don't seem to be complaining on the air, something that seemed to be prevalent on DC. You wanna talk disrespect?  How about Man-on-Man?  How about Redskins radio?  How about all of that?  How quickly you forget.The got bumped an hour, for a project that has NEVER BEEN TRIED BEFORE, and something that can help benefit the greater good, and POSSIBLY get R&F the SAME TYPE OF DEAL. People want AFRO show, well, you can't get that if R&F are 7-11.  People get mad if they are on in Mid-Days, when reality, Mid-day is a better shift than Nights.  People get mad about "west coast time slot" and "replays", something that you NEVER had before, and is now a new luxury.  People get mad about a lot of things they PERCEIVE as slights, but in reality, you don't know what the hell is going through Ron and Fez's heads.Take a step back, take a deep breath, and be cautiously optimistic that this may work out for the best.You'll live longer and be less stressed when your optimistic than pessimistic.

Death Metal Moe

04-25-2006, 10:41 AM

curtoid wrote: Moe - wasn't trying to bogart the hate or fight yer battles - as I've said from the start, the thing that has pissed me off more than just about anything has been the attitude of "just shut up and trust us" (from the fans who know as little as the rest of us, not shows) which we have done for a year now, with very few returns, and getting caught up reading the thread this morning just lit me up on my own.I really (!!!) want to wait and see what happens - I don't have the time or energy to speculate like i did a year or so ago, and it just doesn't seem as fun as it once did. In the end, I am sure R&F will be in good shape - when they signed on to be radio people, they knew it was a gypsy kind of life. Timeslots, stations, markets change, but they are still R&F, and they are still funnier than hell. There are very, very few of these radio people who have the luxery to have the kind of security of going and doing what they want, where they want and when they want. In many ways, the ones that ARE the "one market" shows really have it figured out. We can just hope that there are others who have their best interest in mind, and that there really is something behind these "big things" we keep getting promised.I am not predicting doom and gloom - i just wish there was something remotely in good faith i can hang my hat on today - in lew of that, I will grumble but plug on. I know you weren't man.  I'm just as frustrated as you are.  I want Ron and Fez to finally get some respect too.  I am done "Wishin' and hopin' and thinkin' and prayin'" that Ron and Fez will get the timeslot and XM support they deserve.  It's doesn't seem to be on anyone's plate.  Not O&A's, not XM's, not their agent's, nobodys.

Death Metal Moe

04-25-2006, 10:41 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: You'll live longer and be less stressed when your optimistic than pessimistic.You're 100% right about that. My entire neck is tight and I feel like shit today.  This is stressing me out.

Reephdweller

04-25-2006, 11:40 AM

as I've said from the start, the thing that has pissed me off more than just about anything has been the attitude of "just shut up and trust us" (from the fans who know as little as the rest of usSo you are allowed to be pissed off and express it because you know nothing. Yet I can't think to the positive and express it as a counterpoint. Understood. As usual I guess I'm wrong for thinking this will work out in the end. We'll see how it goes. I stated all along that it was my opinion, I never stated fact, just offered a counterview to the negative. Whatever though.

Marc with a c

04-25-2006, 12:27 PM

did o&a mention anything about ron and fez today?

Furtherman

04-25-2006, 12:45 PM

I'm not crazy about this deal either... but I'll give it a chance before I take a side.BUT.... listening to the O&A replay right now, Opie and Jimmy are f'n hilarious busting on the XM listeners who aren't happy.

HBox

04-25-2006, 12:49 PM

evedder wrote: did o&a mention anything about ron and fez today?  They let out a hearty maniacal laugh, twirled their handlebar mustaches, and said, "HAR HAR HAR!!!!! OUR PLAN TO DISRESPECT R&F IS COMPLETE!!!!!! HAR HAR HAR!!!!!!!!"

curtoid

04-25-2006, 12:54 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: This is my new favorite replacement for "What does Earl do for the show"?1) Ron and Fez knew what they were getting into.2) We know, from all the shit that O&A have gone through, that things take time at XM.3) R&F have only been at XM for 8 months.4) Ron and Fez don't seem to be complaining on the air, something that seemed to be prevalent on DC. You wanna talk disrespect?  How about Man-on-Man?  How about Redskins radio?  How about all of that?  How quickly you forget.The got bumped an hour, for a project that has NEVER BEEN TRIED BEFORE, and something that can help benefit the greater good, and POSSIBLY get R&F the SAME TYPE OF DEAL. People want AFRO show, well, you can't get that if R&F are 7-11.  People get mad if they are on in Mid-Days, when reality, Mid-day is a better shift than Nights.  People get mad about "west coast time slot" and "replays", something that you NEVER had before, and is now a new luxury.  People get mad about a lot of things they PERCEIVE as slights, but in reality, you don't know what the hell is going through Ron and Fez's heads.Take a step back, take a deep breath, and be cautiously optimistic that this may work out for the best.You'll live longer and be less stressed when your optimistic than pessimistic.1) Not touching that one - but I will point out that your 1st and 4th questions kind of work against each other, logic wise.2) How long does it take to fix the phones?3) How long does it take to fix the phones?4) How would you know what was and wasn't said on the air since you have been so proud in your declarations that you didn't listen to WJFK? They kept it professional at all times, even during the bad shit, which we now know (from what they said on the air) was during their waiting to leave period. They signed onto WJFK just a month after WNEW.And as far as "man on man" and "Redskins radio," some of us know first hand without reading about it in Wikipedia what went on, and maybe that's why some of us are frustrated at the current situation. In all of your excuses you still ignore my comment about being annoyed at n 4th hour at a time when O&A get to be increased by a 3rd.So you are allowed to be pissed off and express it because you know nothing. Yet I can't think to the positive and express it as a counterpoint. Understood. As usual I guess I'm wrong for thinking this will work out in the end. We'll see how it goes. I stated all along that it was my opinion, I never stated fact, just offered a counterview to the negative. Whatever though.Right - you got the point there. [/sarcasm]

MobCounty

04-25-2006, 12:56 PM

evedder wrote: did o&a mention anything about ron and fez today? I'm listening to the replay and have not heard anything so far.  They took a call from some dipshit from american idol. Then they have been whining about whiners on whackbag for the last 20 mins, but quickly followed up with how 'cool' the pests were for getting ona back on direct tv.  Hehe, I guess they don't want to piss off the pests.  They are also saying how good its gonna be and explaining how we will get more content.  Its clear that they are not going to take any responsibility for the 'fm break' content for xm. They said, "XM has lots of talent, they need to make sure they do a good job keeping the show running during fm breaks".  The speculation is that there will be some old best of stuff from the pre xm days thrown in on the breaks.

Marc with a c

04-25-2006, 01:13 PM

HBox wrote:  evedder wrote: did o&a mention anything about ron and fez today?   They let out a hearty maniacal laugh, twirled their handlebar mustaches, and said, "HAR HAR HAR!!!!! OUR PLAN TO DISRESPECT R&F IS COMPLETE!!!!!! HAR HAR HAR!!!!!!!!" sums a bitches i knew it.

Reephdweller

04-25-2006, 01:22 PM

Right - you got the point there. [/sarcasm]I knew I liked you Curtoid!

Don Stugots

04-25-2006, 02:02 PM

<hr color="cococo" align="left">evedder wrote: HBox wrote: evedder wrote: did o&a mention anything about ron and fez today? They let out a hearty maniacal laugh, twirled their handlebar mustaches, and said, "HAR HAR HAR!!!!! OUR PLAN TO DISRESPECT R&F IS COMPLETE!!!!!! HAR HAR HAR!!!!!!!!" sums a bitches i knew it.<hr color="cococo" align="left">

I'm glad that I wasnt the only one that heard it.

Death Metal Moe

04-25-2006, 02:14 PM

No one here is saying O&A did this only to screw Ron and Fez.  What we're saying is no one considers them when huge changes are made to a channel that they're the only other constant show on.  Patrice's show is funny but not weekly yet and Lazlow had one mediocre tryout.I got all I needed from Ronnie today with his snotty "But don't worry, big things are in the works."

mdr55

04-25-2006, 02:18 PM

Terrestial radio wins in the end!!!

SatCam

04-25-2006, 03:26 PM

The real losers are the children

Won't someone think of the children?

SatCam

04-25-2006, 03:27 PM

Topic Title: OPIE & ANTHONY are back on FREE FM

Perry, wouldn't O&A had to have been on FreeFM in the past to be "back" on it?

/nelly nitpicker

narc

04-25-2006, 03:40 PM

I might get flamed, and if that happens, so be it. But if they have a problem, as they showed at WJFK, they'll take care of it. They're grown men who've been in the business a long time, and are perfectly capable of handling themselves. I know this is a messageboard on the internet, and this kind of talk is what such things were invented for, but why all the incredible amount of very personal worry?

MobCounty

04-25-2006, 03:48 PM

mdr55 wrote: Terrestial radio wins in the end!!! Dammit..!!<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/wallbash.gif" border="0" />

FUNKMAN

04-25-2006, 03:51 PM

SatCam wrote: The real losers are the children Won't someone think of the children? Fez thinks of the children...

mikeyboy

04-25-2006, 04:23 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: You'll live longer and be less stressed when your optimistic than pessimistic.You do know that being optimistic and brow-beating someone in an attempt to get them to not express their frustrations aren't the same thing, dontcha, Matty?

Plethora

04-25-2006, 08:10 PM

That, now that was... Delicious

Death Metal Moe

04-25-2006, 08:13 PM

mikeyboy wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: You'll live longer and be less stressed when your optimistic than pessimistic.You do know that being optimistic and brow-beating someone in an attempt to get them to not express their frustrations aren't the same thing, dontcha, Matty?MikeyMan's got my back!  Thanks!And no, I'm not even going to consider that it's more about yelling at Matty that sticking up for me...

King Imp

04-25-2006, 08:44 PM

MobCounty wrote: Then they have been whining about whiners on whackbag for the last 20 mins, but quickly followed up with how 'cool' the pests were for getting ona back on direct tv.  Remember when O&A had a spine? Those were the good old days!

Se7en

04-25-2006, 09:32 PM

Again, I have to laugh at all these people who got TURNED ON to O&A on WNEW who are now complaining that a terrestrial show wont be good.  I spent the better part of the morning arguing about this at wackbag.com.You know what, that argument is shit.Was the WNEW show good? Yes, absolutely.  The XM show, though?  10 times better than the WNEW show was at its best.  They've been slipping some WNEW bits into their "worst of" rotation, and while the material is still good, the XM show content just blows it out of the water.  What they're asking us to do now is to go back and listen to a WNEW quality show, and maybe have an XM show for a couple hours.  I say MAYBE a couple hours, because I'm sure that they'll be dragging out the walk between studios for a good half hour every morning, and their proclamation that they can go till 12 p.m., IMO, will probably be honored as much as Stern's assertion that he'll work on Fridays.Despite what most of the blind Homers on Wackbag tell you, it's not about cursing.  It's about a change in the content, and getting 3 hours of fucking commercial breaks, even if they're trying to fucking pass that off as not a big deal because we'll get 20 minutes of "worst of" or some such bullshit.  The more I think about this deal, the more I come to agree with an above poster - they don't fucking care about the XM show at ALL, they just wanted the NY morning drive slot.  Maybe as a way to get back at Howard, I don't know, I don't fucking care.XM's lucky that they have Ron & Fez, because seriously, without them on the service I probably would, as the O&A pests are so quick to say to anyone who dares criticize this deal, flush my XM.  Of course, Ron and Fez's time slot getting dicked around is a whole other fucking issue to deal with.  Cut Moe some slack for bitching about it - 12 to 3 is a TERRIBLE timeslot, he has the right to complain about it.

SinA

04-25-2006, 09:37 PM

King Imp wrote: MobCounty wrote: Then they have been whining about whiners on whackbag for the last 20 mins, but quickly followed up with how 'cool' the pests were for getting ona back on direct tv.  Remember when O&A had a spine? Those were the good old days! They might as well have been blowing Ace Young over the airwaves today.eww.

Don Stugots

04-26-2006, 03:40 AM

so instead of orginial audio of O&A talking about stuff and making people laugh we get recycled old bits from a few years ago, in lou of commercials.  we are supposed to be happy that they are not playing commercials?  gee thanks.  I believe Anthony said yesterday that once the weather gets cold that he will not be walking over to XM studios.  So, I guess that once the first frost of the season comes we will not get our 2 hour XM show.  On a side note has E-Lo answered anyone's emails yet?  I havent heard from him.  If the pests had emailed half as many times as we all have, there would have been a response.  Anyone think we should organize something?  or would it be a waste of time?

curtoid

04-26-2006, 05:27 AM

So, the argument for so many year was that Howard had censored them, which is a fair thing to be pissed about - but what about now, when they have the kind of freedom that most every radio host would dream of, they volunteer to have themselves censored? How is this winning, for anyone?

JPMNICK

04-26-2006, 05:48 AM

Death Metal Moe

04-26-2006, 05:49 AM

Despite what most of the blind Homers on Wackbag tell you, it's not about cursing.  It's about a change in the content, and getting 3 hours of fucking commercial breaks, even if they're trying to fucking pass that off as not a big deal because we'll get 20 minutes of "worst of" or some such bullshit. so instead of orginial audio of O&A talking about stuff and making people laugh we get recycled old bits from a few years ago, in lou of commercials.So, the argument for so many year was that Howard had censored them, which is a fair thing to be pissed about - but what about now, when they have the kind of freedom that most every radio host would dream of, they volunteer to have themselves censored? How is this winning, for anyone? Exaclty on all points.  Why am I paying to NOT hear Ron and Fez, and to get 3 hours of Free FM friendly radio?  It's NOT ABOUT THE SWEARS!How the fuck are they gonna talk about sexual topics?  Dark topics?  Respond honestly to stuff? It's not gonna happen in that 3 hours I can tell you that.  I don't understand how ANYONE can't see that they're now forced to not talk about certian topics that they could have just moved freely into on XM?  WE get much less exclusive content now.  They keep telling us "But you get uncensord content on XM."  So?  They're not going to go into a discussion on abortion and get dumped out of for 30 minutes, they're steering the show in more PC directions.AND RON AND FEZ ARE FUCKED AGAIN.

Don Stugots

04-26-2006, 06:01 AM

and what about Ron & Fez chimming in on this?  ESD reads what is posted here, and so does Ron.  They know how pissed off and/or confused that we all are, why not say something?  Dont anyone give me that TOW THE COMPANY LINE bullshit, come out say "we are trying to get this all worked out", something, anyhting.

Dirtybird12

04-26-2006, 06:14 AM

If I had bought XM for O&A, I'd be pissed right now... but I didnt. I purchased my XM before O&A were on it. - The only reason I still have it is because of the Ron and Fez show.  call me crazy, but I still think RF could OWN morning radio in any market. Free FM /XM / Sirius. dont think so? tape some R&F shows and listen to them one day at 6am.  What a great way to start your day off..

Death Metal Moe

04-26-2006, 06:16 AM

STUGOTS1 wrote: and what about Ron & Fez chimming in on this?  ESD reads what is posted here, and so does Ron.  They know how pissed off and/or confused that we all are, why not say something?  Dont anyone give me that TOW THE COMPANY LINE bullshit, come out say "we are trying to get this all worked out", something, anyhting. Yesterday I heard Ron breifly bring up the new timeslot and then added a audibly snotty "But big things are in the works" kind of response.  Then he said something to Earl like "I don't think this time slot is permanent, right Earl?"Ron and Fez aren't conplainers, but the squeaky wheel gets the grease in this world.

Don Stugots

04-26-2006, 06:16 AM

CircusFreak wrote: If I had bought XM for O&A, I'd be pissed right now... but I didnt. I purchased my XM before O&A were on it. - The only reason I still have it is because of the Ron and Fez show.  call me crazy, but I still think RF could OWN morning radio in any market. Free FM /XM / Sirius. dont think so? tape some R&F shows and listen to them one day at 6am.  What a great way to start your day off..  I agree.  I record the show on the replay everynight and listen to it on the train.  i have stated that many many times here.

Dirtybird12

04-26-2006, 06:38 AM

<hr color="cococo" align="left">Death Metal Moe wrote: <hr color="cococo" align="left">Despite what most of the blind Homers on Wackbag tell you, it's not about cursing.ÿ It's about a change in the content, and getting 3 hours of fucking commercial breaks, even if they're trying to fucking pass that off as not a big deal because we'll get 20 minutes of "worst of" or some such bullshit.ÿ<hr color="cococo" align="left"><hr color="cococo" align="left">so instead of orginial audio of O&A talking about stuff and making people laugh we get recycled old bits from a few years ago, in lou of commercials.<hr color="cococo" align="left"><hr color="cococo" align="left">So, the argument for so many year was that Howard had censored them, which is a fair thing to be pissed about - but what about now, when they have the kind of freedom that most every radio host would dream of, they volunteer to have themselves censored? How is this winning, for anyone? <hr color="cococo" align="left">Exaclty on all points.ÿ Why am I paying to NOT hear Ron and Fez, and to get 3 hours of Free FM friendly radio?ÿ It's NOT ABOUT THE SWEARS!How the fuck are they gonna talk about sexual topics?ÿ Dark topics?ÿ Respond honestly to stuff? It's not gonna happen in that 3 hours I can tell you that.ÿ I don't understand how ANYONE can't see that they're now forced to not talk about certian topics that they could have just moved freely into on XM?ÿ WE get much less exclusive content now.ÿ They keep telling us "But you get uncensord content on XM."ÿ So?ÿ They're not going to go into a discussion on abortion and get dumped out of for 30 minutes, they're steering the show in more PC directions.AND RON AND FEZ ARE FUCKED AGAIN.<hr color="cococo" align="left">

Se7en

04-26-2006, 06:59 AM

curtoid wrote: So, the argument for so many year was that Howard had censored them, which is a fair thing to be pissed about - but what about now, when they have the kind of freedom that most every radio host would dream of, they volunteer to have themselves censored? How is this winning, for anyone? See, they got Howard Stern's old time slot.  So, they won, see?  They won in a bullshit feud that doesn't really fucking matter to any except O&A & Stern, and maybe a few of their more die-hard (re: brainwashed) fans.  You know who doesn't win?  Ron and Fez.  Oh, and the XM O&A fans.  I think their arguement back would be they are still uncensored on XM for 2 hours Well then, let me just be the first to get down on my hands and knees and thank them profusely for giving us two hours of uncensored radio, when I used to get FOUR.BTW, we should all say "two hours" with quotation marks.  As I said earlier, Opie may say they have the opportunity to go till 12 every day, but how often will they be doing that?  I'm willing to say very, very few times.  And that's also assuming that they'll be there at 9 a.m. sharp in the XM studios to do their show, which again I find extremely unlikely.  I can see them going probably from 9:30 a.m. to 11, maybe.My analogy to Howard Stern, I feel, is apt.  Their assertion that they will do 2 hours of uncensored radio on XM, or that they could even do 3 hours, is going to, when it's all said and done, be akin to Howard saying that he's working five-days a week on Sirius.  In other words, it'll be a promise that's likely very quickly forgotten.How the fuck are they gonna talk about sexual topics?  Dark topics?  Respond honestly to stuff? It's not gonna happen in that 3 hours I can tell you that.  I don't understand how ANYONE can't see that they're now forced to not talk about certian topics that they could have just moved freely into on XM?  WE get much less exclusive content now.  They keep telling us "But you get uncensord content on XM."  So?  They're not going to go into a discussion on abortion and get dumped out of for 30 minutes, they're steering the show in more PC directions.Well said.  Moe, I listened to the "worst of" yesterday for maybe 5 minutes, and it was the segment where they were making fun of that Wizard of Oz play featuring mentally disciplined people.  It just wound up depressing me, because you honestly think they'll get away with that sort of discussion on free FM?  But hey, I guess the trade off is that they'll be able to interview lots more American Idol contestants, yay!The "but you get uncensored content on XM!" shit is really wearing thin with me.  The uncensored content is MAYBE for two hours, and commercial breaks disguised as worst ofs.  That's a fucking step down from what we were getting, and anyone who says otherwise is delusional.call me crazy, but I still think RF could OWN morning radio in any market. Free FM /XM / Sirius. dont think so? tape some R&F shows and listen to them one day at 6am.  What a great way to start your day off.. Not everyone has the opportunity to do that, though.  I'm not criticizing you, but I felt the bitching at Moe a page or two back was really unfair.  "Just get a MyFi and record them!  Quit bitching about them not fitting your time slot!"  Moe - NONE OF US - should have to drop around 200 bucks for a XM unit just to record R&F to listen to it at a more suitable time.Here's a crazy thought, just move them to a friendlier time slot.  How about finally putting them on afternoon drive time on XM?  It's the least Opie could do after fucking them over with this deal.

J.Clints

04-26-2006, 07:02 AM

Everyone stop your B1tching. Atleast we still get to here R&F. Get over it. if R&f are not pissed then why are you. Shut your mouth and listen when you get a chance.

Se7en

04-26-2006, 07:08 AM

jclintsma wrote: Everyone stop your B1tching. Atleast we still get to here R&F. Get over it. if R&f are not pissed then why are you. Shut your mouth and listen when you get a chance.  I'll say to you the same as I've said to some wackbag folks the last few days:  I don't know what kind of low expectation motherfuckers you are, but personally, I'm not just going to sit back and take whatever shit is thrown my way and be thankful for it.  If I don't like the deal, or think it's fair to Ron & Fez, than I'm going to complain.

J.Clints

04-26-2006, 07:11 AM

Se7en wrote: jclintsma wrote: Everyone stop your B1tching. Atleast we still get to here R&F. Get over it. if R&f are not pissed then why are you. Shut your mouth and listen when you get a chance.  I'll say to you the same as I've said to some wackbag folks the last few days:  I don't know what kind of low expectation motherfuckers you are, but personally, I'm not just going to sit back and take whatever shit is thrown my way and be thankful for it.  If I don't like the deal, or think it's fair to Ron & Fez, than I'm going to complain.And let me ask you, WHAT THE FUCK is your complaining doing for you.

Dirtybird12

04-26-2006, 07:20 AM

jclintsma wrote: Se7en wrote: jclintsma wrote: Everyone stop your B1tching. Atleast we still get to here R&F. Get over it. if R&f are not pissed then why are you. Shut your mouth and listen when you get a chance.  I'll say to you the same as I've said to some wackbag folks the last few days:  I don't know what kind of low expectation motherfuckers you are, but personally, I'm not just going to sit back and take whatever shit is thrown my way and be thankful for it.  If I don't like the deal, or think it's fair to Ron & Fez, than I'm going to complain.And let me ask you, WHAT THE FUCK is your complaining doing for you.letters and calls and complaining got O&A and R&F back on direct tv. WHAT THE FUCK IS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE COMPLAINERS DOING FOR YOU?

curtoid

04-26-2006, 07:45 AM

O&A taking themselves out of an exclusive, uncensored agreement with XM, reducing their explicit content, returning to a place Hoo Hoo abandoned AND giving fuel for Stern in his legal battles with CBS is a win for Howard, imo. O&A win because they now have absolution of their past sins, and this might be enough to make them bankable and secure a tighter, longer contract with XM (or someone else) down the road.CBS will win if they can recoup some of their DLR money and lure back the millions of people they chased away when Howard left. XM wins because they have one more avenue to promote themselves and if enough people want to pay $13 a month to hear "two" more hours of O&ARon and Fez could win if something opens up on the terestrial level that would still allow them to do their sat-friendly program, if XM finally shows some commitment to 202, and/or they get a 4th hour and/or a better timeslot and/or a better replay.The fans who want O&A's exposure to be bigger and don't mind 3 hours of commercial, FCC friendly radio will winAnd fans who couldn't afford $13.00 a month finally win by having O&A back where they can listen to them.WHO SAYS I'M NOT FUCKING POSITIVE!

J.Clints

04-26-2006, 07:48 AM

CircusFreak wrote: jclintsma wrote: Se7en wrote: jclintsma wrote: Everyone stop your B1tching. Atleast we still get to here R&F. Get over it. if R&f are not pissed then why are you. Shut your mouth and listen when you get a chance.  I'll say to you the same as I've said to some wackbag folks the last few days:  I don't know what kind of low expectation motherfuckers you are, but personally, I'm not just going to sit back and take whatever shit is thrown my way and be thankful for it.  If I don't like the deal, or think it's fair to Ron & Fez, than I'm going to complain.And let me ask you, WHAT THE FUCK is your complaining doing for you.letters and calls and complaining got O&A and R&F back on direct tv. WHAT THE FUCK IS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE COMPLAINERS DOING FOR YOU?Complaining about stuff that matters is fine. but at least r and f are still on and will still do a kick ass show.

wonderwoman

04-26-2006, 07:51 AM

curtoid wrote: O&A taking themselves out of an exclusive, uncensored agreement with XM, reducing their explicit content, returning to a place Hoo Hoo abandoned AND giving fuel for Stern in his legal battles with CBS is a win for Howard, imo. O&A win because they now have absolution of their past sins, and this might be enough to make them bankable and secure a tighter, longer contract with XM (or someone else) down the road.CBS will win if they can recoup some of their DLR money and lure back the millions of people they chased away when Howard left. XM wins because they have one more avenue to promote themselves and if enough people want to pay $13 a month to hear "two" more hours of O&ARon and Fez could win if something opens up on the terestrial level that would still allow them to do their sat-friendly program, if XM finally shows some commitment to 202, and/or they get a 4th hour and/or a better timeslot and/or a better replay.The fans who want O&A's exposure to be bigger and don't mind 3 hours of commercial, FCC friendly radio will winAnd fans who couldn't afford $13.00 a month finally win by having O&A back where they can listen to them.WHO SAYS I'M NOT FUCKING POSITIVE!WELL SAID CURTOID

Dirtybird12

04-26-2006, 08:01 AM

at least when/IF Ron and Fez simulcast on FM - they won't look like hypocrites. I don't think they ever bashed FREE FM or any of the shows on FREE FM.

Evilpete

04-26-2006, 08:03 AM

people here are still bitching and moaning how Ron and Fez are
getting screwed? why don't all you complainers actually organize a
letter writing campaign, that should work (then again the last time
that was tried, it did wonders getting them back onto NYC airwaves
after they were moved from NEW...) get over it, and
you have to look at it all in the "big picture".  O&A make XM
A LOT of MONEY.  And having them in all drivetimes slots for all
parts of TWO countries.  Like a lot also say here, MAYBE RON AND
FEZ WANT TO BE IN THE SLOT THEY ARE IN.  Along with that, they are
still newcomers to Sat radio.  They have to EARN their better spot
like any other job.  Have patience and STOP THE BITCHING

J.Clints

04-26-2006, 08:08 AM

Evilpete wrote: people here are still bitching and moaning how Ron and Fez are getting screwed? why don't all you complainers actually organize a letter writing campaign, that should work (then again the last time that was tried, it did wonders getting them back onto NYC airwaves after they were moved from NEW...) get over it, and you have to look at it all in the "big picture".  O&A make XM A LOT of MONEY.  And having them in all drivetimes slots for all parts of TWO countries.  Like a lot also say here, MAYBE RON AND FEZ WANT TO BE IN THE SLOT THEY ARE IN.  Along with that, they are still newcomers to Sat radio.  They have to EARN their better spot like any other job.  Have patience and STOP THE BITCHING Thank you this is what i am trying to say.