World Cup. Germany 2006. [Archive] - Page 2

HBox

06-25-2006, 01:23 PM

The ref lost control of the game, plain and simple. At one point it seemed like he was just handing out yellow cards on every foul. 16 in total for the game, tied a World Cup record. And the two teams got as close as I've ever seen to a soccer fight two times. It was a very physical game, and the ref tried to tone it down way too late. And they missed a bunch of calls too. A Netherlands got literally dropkicked in the chest in the box and it wasn't called. Figo got away with headbutting one of the Netherlands players. It was so bad, it looked like the ref was out to give cards for any reason. He gave out two very cheap yellow cards for delay the were completely unwarranted. And the game ended up at either 9 on 9 or 9 on 8. 4 or 5 ejections. The whole game was a clusterfuck, I just enjoyed it on a "watching a train wreck" level. This guy made the ref of the US-Italy game look good. At one point the FIFA ref on the sidelines had to restrain the Portugal bench and order them all back to their seats. On a sidenote, a guy on Portugal can dropkick a guy in the chest in his own box and no penalty kick. And they call that joke of a penalty kick in the US-Ghana game. Yeah, I'm not bitter.

Rockvillejoe

06-25-2006, 01:38 PM

HBox wrote: The ref lost control of the game, plain and simple. I disagree. When the ref issues cards, he is criticized as having too much impact on the outcome. When the ref refrains from booking the player, he is criticized for losing control.When will the player himself accept the responsililty of playing within the rules? For all of the world class talent on that pitch, you would think they would have the common sense to behave themselves, helping your team, especially in that heat and England looming next Saturday. In a difficult envrioment, I thought this ref did his job extremely well. A nightmare of a game to officiate. Shame on all of the red carded players for playing joga stupida, not joga bonita (ya like that play on woids?).

This message was edited by Rockvillejoe on 6-25-06 @ 5:40 PM

Death Metal Moe

06-25-2006, 01:44 PM

Rockvillejoe wrote: Shame on all of the red carded players for playing joga stupida, not joga bonita (ya like that play on woids?).No I didn't.  In fact, it was one of the 5 things I hated about your post.

HBox

06-25-2006, 01:53 PM

Rockvillejoe wrote: HBox wrote: The ref lost control of the game, plain and simple. I disagree. When the ref issues cards, he is criticized as having too much impact on the outcome. When the ref refrains from booking the player, he is criticized for losing control.When will the player himself accept the responsililty of playing within the rules? For all of the world class talent on that pitch, you would think they would have the common sense to behave themselves, helping your team, especially in that heat and England looming next Saturday. In a difficult envrioment, I thought this ref did his job extremely well. A nightmare of a game to officiate. Shame on all of the red carded players for playing joga stupida, not joga bonita (ya like that play on woids?).

This message was edited by Rockvillejoe on 6-25-06 @ 5:40 PM  A good ref would have been harsh on the calls that deserved it, not handing out yellow cards for all sorts of ticky tack shit over and over again and enraging players and further heightening tensions. Call a delay yellow card, then 5 minutes later let Figo get away with a headbut after the play is over? This is your idea of the ref doing his job exteremely well? The idea is to keep the players on the field and obeying the rules. This ref failed spectacularly.

blakjeezis

06-25-2006, 02:02 PM

There is no surer sign that a ref has lost control of a game than cards being handed out left and right. A good ref should be able to control the players without issuing a single unnecessary card. Now, unfortunately I didn't get to see most of the match, but from what I understand it was rough, but not 20 cards rough. And Figo is not out of the woods yet. FIFA can review the tape and ban him from the next game or more if they see fit. That would be a shame.

Reephdweller

06-25-2006, 04:34 PM

That was easily one of the roughest games I've seen in some time. I don't feel the that the way the game went was the fault of the ref really. It seemed to me that he was trying to get a handle on the game. I'm not a fan of giving out yellow and red cards though for this particular game with everything that happened I'm surprised more players weren't given red cards.

SLCRagu

06-25-2006, 05:28 PM

Wow, they are killing that ref on the front page of every site I've checked out.  I think it all stemmed from that first foul commited on C. Ronaldo, that was a vicious tackle that could've broken that pretty-boy's leg.  The sad thing is that could be the end of Figo's international career, DeRossi from Italy got a 4 game international suspension for his elbow on McBride.  Costinhas red was totally waranted but Deco's second yellow was an absolute joke.  Yet all those cards didn't keep Holland from scoring, they just blew all their opportunities and left Van Nistelrooy on the bench.  I agree with the guy who said the players should be accountable for their behavior and stop blaming the refs, exept for the refs in the last two US games.

Mr.Pants

06-25-2006, 05:43 PM

I'm not sure what else the ref could do. The players were crazy. These were not ticky tack fouls for the most part. You're supposed to deter fouling by punishing the players but they kept making late tackles. And leave the ball alone Deco when you have a yellow. How is all the bad behaviour not the players' fault? They are responsible for their actions not the ref.

SLCRagu

06-25-2006, 05:56 PM

There was alot of time wasting going on by Portugal but I don't think you give a player like Deco a second yellow for that, make your point with another player.

Rockvillejoe

06-25-2006, 07:35 PM

HBox wrote:   The idea is to keep the players on the field and obeying the rules. Holland and Portugal are universally  known for their uncanny ability to implode in huge, pressure games, hence the fact that neither has ever won anything on a world scale. Both sides are undisciplined. Shame on Figo for losing his cool, and Deco for that inexcusable brain cramp of getting a 2nd yellow for delay of game. And I am a Portugal fan. They will beat England, and upset Brazil if they can keep their composure and C Ronaldo is fit to play. Portugal's coach Scolari has already won one world championship with Brazil. His total revamping of Portugal's team philosphy and player selection has made Portugal a real threat to make it to the finals.  Blaming the refs for that chaos in todays game is like blaming the police when a riot breaks out. Unfair and inaccurate.

This message was edited by Rockvillejoe on 6-25-06 @ 11:37 PM

HBox

06-25-2006, 07:45 PM

The three worst offenses I saw today didn't even get fouls, and then they send someone off for a delay of game? The refs are there to control the players, and this guy had no control whatsoever. To play off your analogy, if this guy were a cop in a riot, he'd be arresting somebody for littering while people were being murdered and raped all around him.

Rockvillejoe

06-25-2006, 07:46 PM

HBox wrote:  then 5 minutes later let Figo get away with a headbut after the play is over? This is your idea of the ref doing his job exteremely well? The idea is to keep the players on the field and obeying the rules. This ref failed spectacularly. Unlike you and me that have the benefit of slow motion instant replay, the ref must rely on his own 2 eyes and his 3  assistant refs. He can't call what he doesn't see. Your criticism is unrealistic. There are 23 cameras recording every move on the pitch and sidelines. Good for us. It allows us to sit here and criticize every missed call. Keep in mind that while Figo was head butting, the ref was focused on booking someone else. If you want to blame someone, blame Figo for acting like a petulant 8 year old. Fifa will review the play and believe me there will be sanctions on Figo. Hopefully not a game suspension. There should also be some concern that those players issued a red card could have their suspensions extended for 2 games. In this case the ref did as good a job as humanly possible. And by the way, I never tire of that ice skater opening her mouth like she does.  

This message was edited by Rockvillejoe on 6-25-06 @ 11:48 PM

Mr.Pants

06-26-2006, 03:41 AM

Figo did get a yellow for the headbutt.

blakjeezis

06-26-2006, 08:56 AM

That was terrible. I guess it wouldn't have been so bad if the ref hadn't pussied out of calling that handball in the box on, whatever his name is, the Italian right back, like 2 minutes earlier down the other end. Ah well, those are the breaks. At least I never have to hear the term 'socceroos' again.

HBox

06-26-2006, 09:09 AM

Mr.Pants wrote: Figo did get a yellow for the headbutt.  That makes even less sense! That's a red card offense. ESPECIALLY the way that one was going. At least if he didn't see it he had somewhat of an excuse. But to see it and lenient on something like that in game like is inexcusable.

Davios

06-26-2006, 09:34 AM

At least we know the English are enjoying themselves............ <img src="http://www.as.com/recorte.php?id=LCO&xref=20060626dasdaiftb_21&type=Ies" border="0" />

Tenbatsuzen

06-26-2006, 10:02 AM

Davios wrote: At least we know the English are enjoying themselves............ <img border="0" src="http://www.as.com/recorte.php?id=LCO&xref=20060626dasdaiftb_21&type=Ies" />   What you don't see is the massive gang-rape 10 seconds later.

HBox

06-26-2006, 10:26 AM

<a href="http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=372587&cc=5901" target="_blank">The head of FIFA comments on Ivanov's performance.</a>
In a frank assessment to a Portuguese TV station, Blatter said
Ivanov was not up to the level of the players.


"I think there could have been a yellow card for the referee,"
Blatter said.<a href="http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=372587&cc=5901" target="_blank"></a>

Gvac

06-26-2006, 02:09 PM

I didn't see the Italy/Australia game but listened on XM.  I hear the penalty kick that gave Italy the win was another very questionable call.  I got home in time to see the Ukraine/Switzerland "shootout" which was real entertaining.  I can't believe how much I'm loving soccer.  Too bad it fades after the World Cup ends.Maybe I'll force myself to go to a MLS game to see if I can get into it outside of the Cup.

Hottub

06-26-2006, 02:19 PM

After The Cup, stick to the Fox Soccer Channel. League play from England, Spain, Italy, Germany! Most of the stars from World Cup, play in the European Leagues.

Gvac

06-26-2006, 02:21 PM

There's a Fox Soccer Channel?Who knew?

HBox

06-26-2006, 02:23 PM

It used to be called Fox Sports World until they realized that they were only covering one sport.

Gvac

06-26-2006, 02:31 PM

Have any of you guys ever been to an MLS game?  Is it any good?I've never been to a live soccer game in my life, except my 10 year old nephew's.

Hottub

06-26-2006, 02:48 PM

I haven't been to an American soccer game since the Cosmos. When I was in Argentina, I saw Argentina vs. Uraguay for a qualifying match. And Boca Juniors vs. River Plate in league play. This match was like Boston vs New York.    SQUARED!!!!The whole fucking city virtually shut down for 2 hours!America just does not get it, yet!

Tenbatsuzen

06-26-2006, 03:00 PM

Hottub wrote: The whole fucking city virtually shut down for 2 hours!    The same could be said for NASCAR races in places like Dover, Bristol, Charlotte, and Daytona. Even Indy.

HBox

06-26-2006, 03:05 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Hottub wrote: The whole fucking city virtually shut down for 2 hours! The same could be said for NASCAR races in places like Dover, Bristol, Charlotte, and Daytona. Even Indy.   Yeah, but we're talking about actual SPORTS.

Gvac

06-26-2006, 04:50 PM

I just wanted to make sure everybody saw PhotoshopMike's latest masterpiece. <img border="0" src="http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a316/michaelscardillo12345/FezzieBeck.jpg" />

Rockvillejoe

06-26-2006, 07:34 PM

Gvac wrote: Have any of you guys ever been to an MLS game?  Is it any good?I've never been to a live soccer game in my life, except my 10 year old nephew's.  In DC, the DC United matches are a lot of fun. It offers the best domestic play, flowing beer, and a lot of young babes walking around. The environment is fanatastic. Having attended Man U  and Fulham games in England, I can tell you that the fan level is not as intense over here. Over there, when the ball is played in the hometowns offensive 3rd of the field, you can sense with palpible energy that something good is about to happen. The crowd becomes louder, and goosebumps literally appear on the arms. In DC, there is more of a  party atmsophere in the stands. There are  crazy, loyal, knowledable fans as well. I haven't been to a Red Bulls game in NJ, but if it is anything like DC United, you should have a lot of fun, with above decent quality, professional soccer. Definitely worth the $16.

This message was edited by Rockvillejoe on 6-27-06 @ 3:38 AM

Gvac

06-27-2006, 02:37 PM

Thanks for the input, Rockvillejoe.It appears tickets to New York RedBull games are a bit higher than in DC, but I'll give it a shot.<img border="0" src="http://redbull.newyork.mlsnet.com/rbn/imgs/tickets/2006/season/seating_chart_indvidual.gif" />

Mr.Pants

06-27-2006, 03:29 PM

I used to buy the cheapest ticket for the Tampa Bay games and sit wherever I wanted. You might not get away with that in New York though.

cougarjake13

06-27-2006, 05:26 PM

Mr.Pants wrote: I used to buy the cheapest ticket for the Tampa Bay games and sit wherever I wanted. You might not get away with that in New York though. you could probably do it though, i dont think there's that many serious soccer fans in new yorkyou could definitely do that for any devil rays game that doesnt involve the yanks or sawx<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

Furtherman

06-29-2006, 11:15 AM

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmM4ry7PSzA&search=Italy%20training%20camp" target="_blank">Italy's World Cup Training Camp</a>

AngelAmy

06-29-2006, 01:29 PM

haha it's funny cause it's true.

Hottub

06-30-2006, 06:57 AM

Kickoff in 2 minutes!!

AngelAmy

06-30-2006, 07:00 AM

im so there

Hottub

06-30-2006, 07:47 AM

No score end of the 1st half!Argentina doing a good job containing the German Soccer Machine. Really messing with their game.

Hottub

06-30-2006, 08:07 AM

GOOOOAL!Riquilme off of the corner!!!!! 1-0 Argentina!!

Tenbatsuzen

06-30-2006, 08:45 AM

Interesting question... re: ARG-Germany  If a team uses all of its subs, and the goalie gets injured, what happens?  Does someone who is on the field become the new goalie, and it's 11-on-10, or is there a goalie exception?

Tenbatsuzen

06-30-2006, 09:43 AM

DFB.Bitches. 

This message was edited by Tenbatsuzen on 6-30-06 @ 1:46 PM

LordJezo

06-30-2006, 09:48 AM

I am listening to the BBC feed.. they said a fight broke out right after the last kick, a player from Argentina went over to the German side and started a fight? What happened?? 

This message was edited by LordJezo on 6-30-06 @ 1:49 PM

blakjeezis

06-30-2006, 09:53 AM

A wonderful display of class from the Argentine side. And Tenbats, yes, if a team has used all its subs and the goalie gets injured, a fieldplayer has to go on goal.

This message was edited by blakjeezis on 6-30-06 @ 1:53 PM

Tenbatsuzen

06-30-2006, 09:58 AM

blakjeezis wrote: A wonderful display of class from the Argentine side. And Tenbats, yes, if a team has used all its subs and the goalie gets injured, a fieldplayer has to go on goal.

    He lives!! Apparently, a German player got injured during the celebration after the PKs, and then all hell broke loose. Doesn't matter.  Germany moves on.  The second-string ARG keeper looked like he was soiling himself.   Club Chernobyl vs. Italy, next! And one more time... <img width="320" height="300" border="0" src="http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7067/ger64346oz.gif" />

Tenbatsuzen

06-30-2006, 10:25 AM

For BJ: <img width="500" height="356" border="0" src="http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9572/arg3jt.jpg" />

Tenbatsuzen

06-30-2006, 11:46 AM

It gets better for BJ: The Argentine coach quit after the game.

booster11373

06-30-2006, 12:42 PM

Italy is trouncing Ukraine

Gvac

06-30-2006, 08:34 PM

His name is Luca...<img border="0" src="http://www.4thegame.com/media/00/03/41/italyukraine30060601.jpg" /> Go Italy!Krush the Krauts!

cougarjake13

07-01-2006, 04:41 AM

Gvac wrote: Go Italy!Krush the Krauts! sorry gvac but i'm gonna have to go the other way on this onelets go Krauts<img height="222" src="http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,1658,5174956,00.jpg" width="300" border="0" /> <img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

AngelAmy

07-01-2006, 05:36 AM

go brasil!<img height="379" src="http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL242/894679/8274207/162274064.jpg" width="315" border="0" />

Tenbatsuzen

07-01-2006, 06:41 AM

The Suite Life of Zach and Cody will not be seen today.

blakjeezis

07-01-2006, 07:55 AM

With Argentina out of the way, it's time to declare war on the real enemy. Francesco Totti is the grandson of Adolf Hitler. He was able to perfect his game as youth because he never had to work a job due to his family being rich from Jewish gold.

This message was edited by blakjeezis on 7-1-06 @ 11:55 AM

Tenbatsuzen

07-01-2006, 08:03 AM

blakjeezis wrote: With Argentina out of the way, it's time to declare war on the real enemy. Francesco Totti is the grandson of Adolf Hitler. He was able to perfect his game as youth because he never had to work a job due to his family being rich from Jewish gold.

    Worry about Portugal first, BJ.

Tenbatsuzen

07-01-2006, 08:21 AM

Rooney gets carded. BTW, BJ... Referee is an Argentine.

blakjeezis

07-01-2006, 08:55 AM

Christian Ronaldo better get his pretty ass to Real Madrid because at the first United practice session Rooney's gonna shatter his cheekbone.

Tenbatsuzen

07-01-2006, 09:11 AM

Is Rooney done for the next game because of the red?  If there is a next game?

stickyfingers

07-01-2006, 09:17 AM

someone please explain to me how that was not a goal?

Tenbatsuzen

07-01-2006, 09:19 AM

stickyfingers wrote: someone please explain to me how that was not a goal?   He was off-sides.  He was in the box before the ball was.   BTW, BJ, what's the significance of an English flag with the word "minge" on it?  I'm curious.

AngelAmy

07-01-2006, 09:21 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Is Rooney done for the next game because of the red?  If there is a next game?  thats correct

Tenbatsuzen

07-01-2006, 09:24 AM

With 9 on 11, they need to play keep-away and go to PKs

Rockvillejoe

07-01-2006, 09:49 AM

I told ya, Portugal will be raising the cup next Sunday. Why? Deco back, Scolari's karma, the hot goal keeper. Brazil, your'e next....er, France perdon moi..

This message was edited by Rockvillejoe on 7-1-06 @ 5:02 PM

blakjeezis

07-01-2006, 09:51 AM

He was off-sides.  He was in the box before the ball was.  In order for a player to be on side he has to be either behind the ball, or there must be at least two opposing players or one field player and the goalie between him and the endline when the ball is played. If he is even with the last player he's onside.As far as the game goes, what can I say? Rooney was a bullshit card, but that's been happening all tournament. You have to play well enough that the referees's decisions don't matter. Unfortunately this was the first game that England actually played decent and they took it to penalties. They took some really bad penalties, obviously they were tired. Lampard hasn't smelled a goal since day one so I don't know why he was taking the first one, but it is what it is. They can go home and Ericsson can retire and maybe next time they won't leave the spirit behind. I don't know why Ericsson insisted on that 4-5-1 nonsense, Rooney needed someone up front with him for support. Ehh, you can second guess until the cows come home, but in the end you have to win the games, and they didn't.

This message was edited by blakjeezis on 7-1-06 @ 1:55 PM

booster11373

07-01-2006, 09:52 AM

Bad news for England losing the shootoutGood news for England its a short plane ride home

stickyfingers

07-01-2006, 09:55 AM

that goalie was money for portugal,  I forgot that I never posted my original picks: Italy (8 to 1)  risking 20 to win 160 (still alive) Germany (7.5 to 1) risking 20 to win 150 (still alive) Czech Republic (25 to 1) risking 10 to win 250 (-10) Spain (15 to 1) risking 20 to win 300 (-20) Portugal (18 to 1) risking 20 win 360 (still alive) I've never watched soccer untill this World Cup...its fun

blakjeezis

07-01-2006, 09:56 AM

That goalie looked like Sylvester Stallone, and England took 4 of the worst penalty kicks I've ever seen

This message was edited by blakjeezis on 7-1-06 @ 1:57 PM

blakjeezis

07-01-2006, 10:03 AM

And please can we not refer to them as PKs from now on? And Marcel Balboa needs to be silenced. He's an ass. Both my Alzheimer's riddled grandmother and my cat could call a better game than him. He really comes across like he knows nothing about the sport.

This message was edited by blakjeezis on 7-1-06 @ 2:05 PM

Tenbatsuzen

07-01-2006, 10:08 AM

blakjeezis wrote: And please can we not refer to them as PKs from now on? And Marcel Balboa needs to be silenced. He's an ass. Both my Alzheimer's riddled grandmother and my cat could call a better game than him. He really comes across like he knows nothing about the sport.    Agreed, he DID sound like an ass.

blakjeezis

07-01-2006, 10:10 AM

It's worse than that, actually, beyond even someone who's never played the sport. He sounds like someone who's never seen or heard of it before and just walked off the street and strapped on a mic and headset. I'm more enraged by him than the loss.

booster11373

07-01-2006, 10:20 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  blakjeezis wrote: And please can we not refer to them as PKs from now on? And Marcel Balboa needs to be silenced. He's an ass. Both my Alzheimer's riddled grandmother and my cat could call a better game than him. He really comes across like he knows nothing about the sport.     Agreed, he DID sound like an ass.  Balboa does kind of suck, My favorite is Tommy Smith I wish they let him call more games on ESPN

blakjeezis

07-01-2006, 10:27 AM

The American commentators in general are pretty bad. I guess they just don't have the knack for the game. They get way too involved in talking about strategy and the refs and all this bullshit that a, doesn't matter and b, they're usually wrong about, so they end up just sounding like uninformed slackjaws. They should just stick to calling the action and give the other shit a rest.

This message was edited by blakjeezis on 7-1-06 @ 2:28 PM

Snoogans

07-01-2006, 11:14 AM

And please can we not refer to them as PKs from now on?   Yea, everyone knows that means Penalty Kills anyway

blakjeezis

07-01-2006, 12:56 PM

Ronaldo's just happy because now he can go eat that cheesecake he's been thinking about all afternoon. All European semis: My prediction - Germany vs. France in a classic final. I've been saying for a while now that Germany was going to win it all, but I think Zidane, who controlled basically that entire match today, is going to lead the Frogs to the cup and retire on top with the rest of the world wanting more.

Rockvillejoe

07-01-2006, 01:05 PM

blakjeezis wrote: And please can we not refer to them as PKs from now on? And Marcel Balboa needs to be silenced. He's an ass. Both my Alzheimer's riddled grandmother and my cat could call a better game than him. He really comes across like he knows nothing about the sport. This message was edited by blakjeezis on 7-1-06 @ 2:05 PM Amen brother. He announces like he played. Uninspired. I listen to the XM airplay and the TV video. That is one nice set of tits. Any chance we can see the whole package?

cougarjake13

07-02-2006, 06:21 AM

<a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/5749556">beckham__quits___as__england__captain</a>article hints at him maybe coming to the usa and playing in MLS<a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/5748736">http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/5748736</a>

This message was edited by cougarjake13 on 7-2-06 @ 10:22 AM

booster11373

07-02-2006, 06:33 AM

I dont see Beckham coming to the US yet.

Tenbatsuzen

07-02-2006, 06:09 PM

booster11373 wrote: I dont see Beckham coming to the US yet.  On the contrary - I think his uninspired performance in the Portugal game, combined with his crying, has basically guaranteed he WON'T come to the US.  This was Beckham's biggest exposure to the United States on a wide scale - 2002 doesn't count because the time-difference equaled horrific ratings.  He didn't come through.  Free kick goal aside, he didn't prove anything.  I think you'll see Rooney play in the US before Beckham.  And yes, I know Rooney is a young, skilled player who still has plenty to give to the Euro leagues.

AngelAmy

07-04-2006, 01:27 PM

Goooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllll lllllllllllllllllllll!!!!!!

AngelAmy

07-04-2006, 01:29 PM

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggggggggggggggaaaaaaaaaaaaaaai iiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Gvac

07-04-2006, 01:31 PM

ITALY!!!Up your ass you Nazi bastards!

blakjeezis

07-04-2006, 01:38 PM

What happened? I was taking a nap.

This message was edited by blakjeezis on 7-4-06 @ 5:49 PM

Gvac

07-04-2006, 01:40 PM

What happened?  Italy scored 2 goals in the last minute and a half of OT to win 2-0. Seeing a stadium full of Germans waving their flag had me nervous for a moment. This should shut 'em up.

booster11373

07-04-2006, 01:47 PM

WOW!!!!! WHAT A FINISH

blakjeezis

07-04-2006, 01:49 PM

Oh, there was a game today was there? Who won? How many runs did they score?

Gvac

07-04-2006, 01:55 PM

Touch‚, Roger.  I apologize for ever saying soccer was a boring game.  This was absolutely thrilling.

furie

07-04-2006, 01:59 PM

i really thought it would be Brazil Vs Germany in the final..... fool that I was.

Tenbatsuzen

07-04-2006, 02:13 PM

Although I'm sad my team lost, ("There's six million reasons why your team shoulda lost!" - Bennington) hopefully Italy will stomp the winner of Por-Fra and make pizza shop owners nationwide happy.

blakjeezis

07-04-2006, 02:33 PM

Seeing a stadium full of Germans waving their flag had me nervous for a momentWell, if there's one thing the Krauts know how to do, it's hold a rally.

Gvac

07-04-2006, 02:37 PM

blakjeezis wrote:  Seeing a stadium full of Germans waving their flag had me nervous for a moment Well, if there's one thing the Krauts know how to do, it's hold a rally. And lose World Wars.

Tenbatsuzen

07-04-2006, 03:08 PM

It's funny.  ESPN made mention how ultra-nationalism and patriotism is actually frowned upon in Germany because of the whole Nazi thing.  They said that flag stickers on cars, which is a common occurrence in the US, was nearly unheard of in Germany until the Cup run.

Don Stugots

07-04-2006, 05:01 PM

happy happy.  my homeland won the game.  i only know because on my home from staten island i had to drive down 86th st.  all of my fellow piasans were beeping their horns and waving flags out the window.  i added bu yelling "FOTCHA BRUTE!!" out the window of my car. 

TokeOne

07-04-2006, 06:51 PM

What a game today. I am going to take a halfday tommorrow so I can watch France/Portugal, which should be even better. Go Les Bleus!

Bulldogcakes

07-05-2006, 02:34 PM

France vs Italy Loser cooks dinner.

HBox

07-05-2006, 03:03 PM

After yesterday's classic, today was disappointing at best and infuriating at worst. Fuck Portugal's flop fest, it was ridiculous.

Gvac

07-09-2006, 07:23 AM

Today.1:30 PM.FLUSH THE FROGS! <img border="0" src="http://www.forzaitalia-sangiuliano.it/BANDIERA-FORZA-ITALIA_3D.jpg" />

blakjeezis

07-09-2006, 08:00 AM

Fuck Portugal's flop fest, it was ridiculous. It was ridiculous, and has been all tourney. Their behavior has been at worst despicable and at best clownish. As the phrase goes, the fish stinks from the head, and Scolari is a fucking bum. The team is a reflection of the coach's personality. Hence, England plays with no heart or balls. I was very glad Portugal lost. Germany has a really, really good team, full of exciting, young players. People talk about Wayne Rooney and C. Ronaldo being the best young players in the world, but Lahm, Podolski, Schweinsteiger, and Hanke, who although didn't play very much is a hell of a player, could all give the both of them a run foir their money. Talk about the team reflecting the coach, Klinsman was a class act on the pitch and his team reflects that now. They play good, clean, aggressive, fun and exciting football. Really a delight to watch, the most pleasant surprise of the tournament. If Klinsman sticks around they will be a heavy threat in Euro '08 and South Africa '10.Another really nice surprise has been the Italians. Ordinarily I hold them just above Argentina on the rage-o-meter. But I did think they played really well against Germany and held their theatrics to a minimum. Their league is going through a tough time right now, and a majority of the Italian squad has comported themselves with class. I can't help but like Cannavaro, he's a hell of a player, Gattusso as well. If they play again like they played against Germany, we should be in for a great Final. As far as France goes, what can you say? It's been all about Zidane, Ribery, Sagnol, and Vierra for the most part. Henry has ben a ghost, playihg a very lazy, disinterested game. I don't know why. I'm expecting a good game, and this could be the match that turns Ribery into a superstar. I'm really high on the melty-faced, son of a bitch. So that's it, I won't predict a winner, (okay, I'll take Italy) and I wouldn't mind seeing either team win. For all the awful officiating, and yellow cards and England's piss-poor performance, it has been a very good tournament. Goals were down, but the goals that were scored were consistently better than a lot of the previous tournaments'. I guess the lighter ball made a difference. I want to thank you all for the fun, jawboning and shit-talking back and forth, it only enhances the good time. Gvac, I'm glad you've finally come around to the beautiful game. Not to try and sour you, but when you do watch some of the national leagues, EPL, La Liga, or Serie A included, you will see a dropoff in the quality of play. Do not let it stop you though. The games are just as fun and exciting. Alright. I guess I'll see you in 2 years for Euro '08!

Don Stugots

07-09-2006, 09:34 AM

Gvac wrote: Today.1:30 PM.FLUSH THE FROGS! <img src="http://www.forzaitalia-sangiuliano.it/BANDIERA-FORZA-ITALIA_3D.jpg" border="0" /> GO PAISANOS!!!!

Snoogans

07-09-2006, 09:57 AM

yea scotland wooo....oh yea

HBox

07-09-2006, 10:09 AM

And everyone said that Italy flops a lot.

EliSnow

07-09-2006, 10:14 AM

Nice penalty kick for France.

Bama

07-09-2006, 11:41 AM

I hope this thing doesn't end in penalty kicks.

Bama

07-09-2006, 11:52 AM

Damn

HBox

07-09-2006, 12:17 PM

WOW. What a classy way to go out in your final game Zidane.

JesterOfSadness

07-09-2006, 12:18 PM

What a headbutt

Bama

07-09-2006, 12:20 PM

WOW! That was shocking. Kind of ruins the win one for the Gipper thing they had going for him.

Fallon

07-09-2006, 12:33 PM

Bama wrote: I hope this thing doesn't end in penalty kicks.  Jinx!

Fallon

07-09-2006, 12:40 PM

You should get two goalies for PK. This is stupid.

AngelAmy

07-09-2006, 12:42 PM

YES!!!!!!

HBox

07-09-2006, 12:42 PM

AngelAmy

07-09-2006, 12:44 PM

Way to go Zidane! You lose, good day sir.

CuzBum

07-09-2006, 12:44 PM

I want to see video of that headbutt.

Fallon

07-09-2006, 12:46 PM

Death Metal Moe

07-09-2006, 12:48 PM

Thank God there's 4 years between this bullshit.

HBox

07-09-2006, 12:53 PM

AngelAmy

07-09-2006, 12:56 PM

hox already posted it but here it is anyway<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1i_l0OeeMc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1i_l0OeeMc</a>

walking joint

07-09-2006, 12:57 PM

I just drove from my parents to my house...about a 5 minute drive and i'm already sick of all the Italians in my town.  every other fucking car was honking their horn waving the damn flag around.  i hate soccer and i now hate Italy...i don't even know who they beat.  just something about the boasting of the flag pisses me off.  i know i'll probably take shit for it, but i'd like to burn each of them i see hanging in my town.  and the one kid i saw on his front lawn on his knees with his arms in the air as if he scored a goal, i'd like to kick in the nuts. 

Gvac

07-09-2006, 12:59 PM

WHAT A FINISH!!!Way to fuck your team Zidane, you classless piece of shit.Viva Italia!!!<img border="0" src="http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/afp/20060709/i/1865792638.jpg" />

CuzBum

07-09-2006, 01:07 PM

HBox wrote: <img height="150" src="http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/5319/zidane5so.gif" width="200" border="0" /> DOWN GOES GUNIEA! DOWN GOES GUINEA!

suggums

07-09-2006, 01:09 PM

Death Metal Moe wrote: Thank God there's 4 years between this bullshit.  more or less. just glad its finally over

AngelAmy

07-09-2006, 01:10 PM

if you dont like it dont pay attention to it

This message was edited by AngelAmy on 7-9-06 @ 5:12 PM

booster11373

07-09-2006, 01:14 PM

Zidane goes out like a punk what a way to cap your international career.Congrats to Italia

blakjeezis

07-09-2006, 01:18 PM

I am absolutely speechless. What the fuck would make Zidane, who as far as I know has always been a consumate professional on and off the field, just completely lose his shit like that? I am shocked to say the least. Unfortunate to end his career in that way. His legacy will be tarnished. Instead of remembering 2 against Brazil in '98 and this run, it will always be about that headbutt that probably cost France the Cup. I mean, Italy really weren't in the match for most of the overtime. I think if Zidane had stayed on, France would have won. Just a bizarre way to end a tournament and a career. And I really think they should do something about the penalties in the Final. For the rest of the games it's okay, but it leaves a sour tastre in my mouth when it all ends in a shootout. I think maybe they should just end it after overtime and have a replay, either a day or two days later. Then, only if necessary, they should go to penalty kicks. It's a shame, I think, that it should come down to just 1 player and the goalie.

This message was edited by blakjeezis on 7-9-06 @ 5:19 PM

CuzBum

07-09-2006, 01:22 PM

I heard the announcer say he also stomped some Saudi Arabian player in the back once.

booster11373

07-09-2006, 01:27 PM

The finish in a Soccer game that is tied will always be an issue. My Father said it used to be decided by a coin toss, anyone else heard that or is he full of shit?Doesnt  Fabien Bartehz look just like Rob Halford <img height="197" src="http://www.vejgaardoestreskole.dk/klasser/7b/martinb/billed1.jpg" width="132" border="0" /><img height="250" src="http://homepage3.nifty.com/music99/Vocalist/image/RobHalford3.jpg" width="159" border="0" />

booster11373

07-09-2006, 01:28 PM

CuzBum wrote: I heard the announcer say he also stomped some Saudi Arabian player in the back once. Thats why I was rooting for him!!!!!!!!

CuzBum

07-09-2006, 01:35 PM

booster11373 wrote: CuzBum wrote: I heard the announcer say he also stomped some Saudi Arabian player in the back once. Thats why I was rooting for him!!!!!!!!Don't make you a bad person.

Bulldogcakes

07-09-2006, 02:28 PM

walking joint wrote: I just drove from my parents to my house...about a 5 minute drive and i'm already sick of all the Italians in my town. every other fucking car was honking their horn waving the damn flag around. i hate soccer and i now hate Italy...i don't even know who they beat. just something about the boasting of the flag pisses me off. i know i'll probably take shit for it, but i'd like to burn each of them i see hanging in my town. and the one kid i saw on his front lawn on his knees with his arms in the air as if he scored a goal, i'd like to kick in the nuts.  You dont live in Glen Cove do you? I just came back from my parents and there was a half mile traffic jam with everyone waving flags and honking their horns. Another shmuck celebrated by doing a wheelie and burning his tires so much I couldn't see the road. Somehow I suspect none of these folks can complete a sentence in Italian, but I can. "Uno che va in culo a sua madre! Un succhiatore! Vaffanculo!"<blockquote />

Bulldogcakes

07-09-2006, 02:30 PM

booster11373 wrote:Doesnt Fabien Bartehz look just like Rob Halford <img width="132" height="197" border="0" src="http://www.vejgaardoestreskole.dk/klasser/7b/martinb/billed1.jpg" /><img width="159" height="250" border="0" src="http://homepage3.nifty.com/music99/Vocalist/image/RobHalford3.jpg" /> Due succhiatore.   <blockquote />

spoon

07-09-2006, 03:09 PM

AngelAmy wrote: if you dont like it dont pay attention to it This message was edited by AngelAmy on 7-9-06 @ 5:12 PM I totally agree with Amy here.  But don't worry, Moe never passes a sports thread, or any thread for that matter, to add nothing to.  As for my take, I always had respect for soccer players as athletes especially their endurance, but I really enjoyed the world cup more this time around.  I learned the rules (offsides is still a fucking guess most of the time though) and got into the whole thing a little more.  Being an overall sports fan though, the shootout for the world title is a fucking joke.  The Italians, even minus Zidane, barely got to the French half of the field after the first 30 minutes of play.  They need to at least move the ball back a few feet and give the goalie a little more chance at stopping the shot.  The goalie has no choice but to read the player and guess, not react really.  Terrible way to end a World Cup.  Just think, the Americans tied those Italian bastards even amidst some horid calls!  USA, USA, USA!  Oh yah, nevermind.

Gvac

07-09-2006, 03:35 PM

walking joint wrote: I just drove from my parents to my house...about a 5 minute drive and i'm already sick of all the Italians in my town. every other fucking car was honking their horn waving the damn flag around. i hate soccer and i now hate Italy...i don't even know who they beat. just something about the boasting of the flag pisses me off. i know i'll probably take shit for it, but i'd like to burn each of them i see hanging in my town. and the one kid i saw on his front lawn on his knees with his arms in the air as if he scored a goal, i'd like to kick in the nuts.  Wow...I could not disagree more.  I just got back from cruising around two predominantly Italian towns close to me and the celebration was fantastic.  I was honking and waving to all the people lined up along the sidewalk and driving down the streets in their cars and trucks waving the Italian flag and wearing their Italian jerseys.  They ranged in age from 7 to 70 and it was awesome to see so many people excited, happy, and celebrating.  I was fortunate enough to be working in the Iron Bound section of Newark a few years ago when Brazil won the Cup and that was another phenomenal party.  For those unfamiliar with it, that's an area of Newark that's mainly Portuguese and Brazilian immigrants.  Beautiful girls and women were hanging out of car windows waving the flag of their homeland and I was in heaven.   You'll never meet anyone who loves the United States of America more than me, but I also love seeing people feel a sense of pride about where they're from.  If I was forced to move to another part of the world for social or economic reasons I'd do my best to fit in, but I'd always have my love and pride for the USA.  I expect nothing less from the immigrants who come here.

OGC

07-09-2006, 04:47 PM

I guess I was a fool to think I could make it to 8pm without knowing who won this game. I DVR'ed it and was going to watch it tonight. I made it until 7:30 when my wife (Italian but no sports fan) yelled out at me, "Italy wins the World Cup,...... ooops I guess you didn't want to know that"I'll watch it anyway because it sounds like it was a great game.I will say that I wasn't rooting for either of these teams to get past the semi finals, but of these two, I would have been cheering for Italy. I would have to agree that there has to be a better way of deciding a game than penalty kicks. Make them play until they drop, after each 15 minute overtime period let them have another sub, make it sudden death, let players that have been substituted for re-enter the game if it goes too long. Anything is better than Penalty Kicks to decide it.

Tenbatsuzen

07-09-2006, 05:10 PM

HBox wrote: <img width="200" height="150" border="0" src="http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/5319/zidane5so.gif" />   This MAY be an early contender for RF.Net "Post of the Year".

terryc35

07-09-2006, 05:18 PM

spoon wrote: AngelAmy wrote: if you dont like it dont pay attention to it This message was edited by AngelAmy on 7-9-06 @ 5:12 PM I totally agree with Amy here.  But don't worry, Moe never passes a sports thread, or any thread for that matter, to add nothing to.  As for my take, I always had respect for soccer players as athletes especially their endurance, but I really enjoyed the world cup more this time around.  I learned the rules (offsides is still a fucking guess most of the time though) and got into the whole thing a little more.  Being an overall sports fan though, the shootout for the world title is a fucking joke.  The Italians, even minus Zidane, barely got to the French half of the field after the first 30 minutes of play.  They need to at least move the ball back a few feet and give the goalie a little more chance at stopping the shot.  The goalie has no choice but to read the player and guess, not react really.  Terrible way to end a World Cup.  Just think, the Americans tied those Italian bastards even amidst some horid calls!  USA, USA, USA!  Oh yah, nevermind.  "I hate sports, be nice to women, blah bla blah" Fuck Moe and his stupid deathMeatl Bull Shit.........VIVA AL ITALIA David Wright for President!!!

docgoblin

07-09-2006, 05:20 PM

HBox wrote: <img width="200" height="150" border="0" src="http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/5319/zidane5so.gif" /> Believe Me, I was for Italy all the way, but what a way for the great French superstar to go out (and I mean no disrespect to the real Superstar of Ron and Fez fame). He couldn't even come out on the pitch after the game, he was so ashamed! <blockquote />

Reephdweller

07-09-2006, 07:25 PM

As I drove home tonight I listened on the World Cup channel on XM as they talked about the game and what happened between Zidane and Matterazi. A listener called in to say he saw on the internet that apparently Italy's Matterazi made a racial slur towards Zidane and his arab background, that supposedly is what was said to drive him over the edge to do what he did. While if it is true that Matterazi said something offensive, it should still have been something that Zidane should have taken off the field...not in this venue or with so much at stake in the game...especially since it was his last game. He should have shrugged it off and kicked his ass after the game. <img height="150" src="http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/5319/zidane5so.gif" width="200" border="0" />

Death Metal Moe

07-09-2006, 07:34 PM

terryc35 wrote: spoon wrote: AngelAmy wrote: if you dont like it dont pay attention to it This message was edited by AngelAmy on 7-9-06 @ 5:12 PM I totally agree with Amy here.  But don't worry, Moe never passes a sports thread, or any thread for that matter, to add nothing to.  As for my take, I always had respect for soccer players as athletes especially their endurance, but I really enjoyed the world cup more this time around.  I learned the rules (offsides is still a fucking guess most of the time though) and got into the whole thing a little more.  Being an overall sports fan though, the shootout for the world title is a fucking joke.  The Italians, even minus Zidane, barely got to the French half of the field after the first 30 minutes of play.  They need to at least move the ball back a few feet and give the goalie a little more chance at stopping the shot.  The goalie has no choice but to read the player and guess, not react really.  Terrible way to end a World Cup.  Just think, the Americans tied those Italian bastards even amidst some horid calls!  USA, USA, USA!  Oh yah, nevermind.  "I hate sports, be nice to women, blah bla blah" Fuck Moe and his stupid deathMeatl Bull Shit.........VIVA AL ITALIA David Wright for President!!!I'm can't believe what I read, twice.

blakjeezis

07-09-2006, 07:36 PM

Knowing Zidane and the situation about it being his last game and all, the first thought that went through my head was, "What the fuck made him do that?" There is no excuse for it, it was a completely unacceptable act and he got what he deserved, but he does get a little benefit of the doubt as far as motive goes because of the mitigating circumstances. Materrazzi must have done or said something just outrageous, like beyond the pale, to provoke that sort of response from Zidane. I can't think of anything that anyone could say to me in that situation that would make me totally lose my shit like that. Obviously Materazzi got the response he was looking for.

This message was edited by blakjeezis on 7-9-06 @ 11:44 PM

Rockvillejoe

07-09-2006, 07:37 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  HBox wrote: <img height="150" src="http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/5319/zidane5so.gif" width="200" border="0" />    This MAY be an early contender for RF.Net "Post of the Year".  You are the man. Great post!

Tenbatsuzen

07-09-2006, 07:49 PM

<img width="500" height="365" border="0" src="http://soccernet-att.espn.go.com/images/jb2/ziafadfe_getred500.jpg" /> I think the whole act of booking is one of the coolest things in organized sports officiating.

Tenbatsuzen

07-09-2006, 07:51 PM

Death Metal Moe

07-09-2006, 07:57 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: <img height="378" src="http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/4258/image51wf.jpg" width="399" border="0" />I might have actually watched this.

HBox

07-09-2006, 08:46 PM

Death Metal Moe

07-10-2006, 04:14 AM

HBox wrote: <img src="http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/3259/zidanesf9ee7kk5am.gif" border="0" /> OK!  Finally, they've taken this lackluster event and made it funny.

A.J.

07-10-2006, 04:55 AM

Reefdweller wrote: apparently Italy's Matterazi made a racial slur towards Zidane and his arab background, An Italian making a racial slur?  That's about as believable as there being a "Mafia"!<img height="148" src="http://www.atlasgeo.net/flags/animations/Italie.gif" width="205" border="0" />

badorties

07-10-2006, 06:22 AM

<img height="150" src="http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/5319/zidane5so.gif" width="200" border="0" /><a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=ap-wcup-goldenball-zidane&prov=ap&type=lgns" target="_blank">Zidane wins World Cup's best player award</a>

walking joint

07-10-2006, 07:49 AM

if the US would had won, do the Italians I saw yesterday also get to celebrate?

cougarjake13

07-10-2006, 06:25 PM

badorties wrote: <img height="150" src="http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/5319/zidane5so.gif" width="200" border="0" /><a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=ap-wcup-goldenball-zidane&prov=ap&type=lgns" target="_blank">Zidane wins World Cup's best player award</a>well i doubt they vote on it before the final so why would they still give it to him after that

Reephdweller

07-10-2006, 07:30 PM

After an exhaustive study of the match video, and with the help of an Italian translator, Rees claimed that Materazzi called Zidane “the son of a terrorist whore” before adding “so just f*** off” for good measure, supporting the natural assumption that the Frenchman must have been grievously insulted.<a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,28783-2263995,00.html">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,28783-2263995,00.html</a> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C5-k_2ZvZ4&search=bill%20buckner">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C5-k_2ZvZ4&search=bill%20buckner</a>

Snoogans

07-10-2006, 07:34 PM

thats not cool reef

epo

07-10-2006, 08:21 PM

Nothing more tired than Americans making fun of France for WWII.  Good one Jim Rome.  Get a history lesson.Sorry, second most tired thing, Americans telling the world how to "fix their game".  Too funny.

spoon

07-10-2006, 11:58 PM

The world should "fix their game" and at least the French fought till the bitter end this time.  Unlike WWII!  Ahahahahahahahahahaha! 

Fallon

07-11-2006, 08:55 PM

<a href="http://gifdump.com/search/Zidane/" target="_blank">Fucking awesome.</a>

HBox

07-11-2006, 09:03 PM

Many of those and more are put to music in the YTMND thread,

FUNKMAN

07-11-2006, 09:04 PM

one things for sure, Zidane is no John Starks<img height="259" src="http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9iby4O8grREoSkBo7ajzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN 0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=125ui5cf1/EXP=1152767036/**http%3a//ssakai.web.infoseek.co.jp/auto_starks1.jpg" width="183" border="0" />

cougarjake13

07-14-2006, 02:55 PM

<div></div><table class="bdy" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="770" border="0"><tr valign="top"><td><div class="storyHeadline">Arena out as U.S. coach after eight years</div></td></tr></table><a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/5784610">http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/5784610</a><img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

cougarjake13

12-05-2006, 03:09 PM

as widely predictedformer german coach jurgen klinsmann is the new US coach<a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/6227768">http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/6227768</a>

Gvac

12-05-2006, 03:42 PM

Funny you should dig this up cougarjake.  After the World Cup sparked my interest, I've spent the past few Saturdays watching Premiership League Football on the Fox Soccer Channel, which I find infinitely more interesting than College Football.I've decided that I'm a West Ham fan.    <img src="http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c34/Gvac/West-Ham-United.jpg" border="0" />

cougarjake13

12-05-2006, 03:44 PM

Gvac wrote: Funny you should dig this up cougarjake.  After the World Cup sparked my interest, I've spent the past few Saturdays watching Premiership League Football on the Fox Soccer Channel, which I find infinitely more interesting than College Football.I've decided that I'm a West Ham fan.    <img src="http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c34/Gvac/West-Ham-United.jpg" border="0" width="350" height="345" />  yeh i didnt think there was enough soccer fans on the board to create a whole new thread about iti wonder if i have that channel