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Crazy Jen

03-03-2006, 05:48 PM

<a href="http://thedharmainitiative.org/">http://thedharmainitiative.org/</a> It needs a passcode, i think it holds alot of the secrets to the showww I need your helpplease

Death Metal Moe

03-03-2006, 05:50 PM

Wow, out of left field with this one Jen.  What is that site?

MattyBronx

03-03-2006, 06:16 PM

Don't click Enter.  Just click on the graphic and you'll see the orientation film.There's lots more Dharma/Lost stuff out there.  Check out some of the boards... when you're ready to come inside.

Crazy Jen

03-03-2006, 06:45 PM

there is a passcode, i just cant figure it out though, theres some stuff in there, i know it

Servo

03-03-2006, 06:46 PM

I wouldn't get too crazy over it.  It's not an official site.

Garcia525

03-03-2006, 08:42 PM

Crazy Jen wrote: <a href="http://thedharmainitiative.org/">http://thedharmainitiative.org/</a> It needs a passcode, i think it holds alot of the secrets to the showww I need your helpplease  Ok.....I'll be the one sucked into this.  I did a little research on the site myself and this is what I found out.  There are two username/password combinations for this site.  So far I found out a possible username which is "cknisley".  I have no idea who it is or if there is any direct relation to the show.  Now we just have to find the right password for this username and see if it works.

SinA

03-03-2006, 08:49 PM

it could be in here <a href="http://driveshaftband.com/">http://driveshaftband.com/</a>

fezident

03-04-2006, 01:08 AM

Don't even bother.There won't be any "secrets" revealed or anything like that.  The writers themselves said that they only have a "very basic outline of where things are headed" and the actors said, in more than one interview, that they doubt there is even an outline.  Any website that posts any info is most definitely just making shit up.

Crazy Jen

03-04-2006, 03:51 AM

THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME GUYS THANK YOU

This message was edited by Crazy Jen on 3-4-06 @ 7:52 AM

cupcakelove

03-04-2006, 06:10 AM

Good luck cracking this one.  I took a look at the code and it combines the username and password then runs the string through an md5 hash.  There are two hashes on the site, meaning there are two different username/password combos that work, but md5 hashes are pretty much impossible to reverse engineer.  If anyone here thinks they are genious enough to do it, the two hashes are :<pre>4ce8eb77952dcf34505de7e04fd68fc7732d9dda7f79c827c4453bda8f2d441a</pre>

bobrobot

03-04-2006, 08:15 AM

the two hashes are :<img height="293" src="http://www.hometownfavorites.com/images/items/Large/hfso124.jpg" width="176" border="0" /><img height="144" src="http://shop.netgrocer.com/i/Product/DJ/6/70476.jpg" width="96" border="0" />I LOVE hash!!!

This message was edited by bobogolem on 3-4-06 @ 12:33 PM

Crazy Jen

03-04-2006, 09:11 AM

<h2>About the Dharma Initiative</h2><div class="thumb tright"><div><a title="Dharma Swan Station Logo" href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Image:Dharma_logo.gif"><img height="180" alt="Dharma Swan Station Logo" src="http://www.ronfez.net/images/thumb/b/b8/Dharma_logo.gif/180px-Dharma_logo.gif" width="180" border="0" /></a> <div class="thumbcaption"><div class="magnify"><a title="Enlarge" href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Image:Dharma_logo.gif"><img height="11" alt="Enlarge" src="http://www.ronfez.net/skins/common/images/magnify-clip.png" width="15" border="0" /></a></div>Dharma <a title="The Swan" href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/The_Swan">Swan Station</a> <a title="The Logos" href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/The_Logos">Logo</a></div></div></div><ul><li>A research project/foundation </li><li>Founded in 1970 by <a title="Gerald DeGroot" href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Gerald_DeGroot">Gerald</a> and <a title="Karen DeGroot" href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Karen_DeGroot">Karen DeGroot</a> </li><li>Got/gets financial support through <a title="Alvar Hanso" href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Alvar_Hanso">Alvar Hanso</a>'s "<a title="The Hanso Foundation" href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/The_Hanso_Foundation">The Hanso Foundation</a>" </li><li>It's purpose is to create "a large-scale communal research compound where scientists and free-thinkers from around the globe could pursue research in meteorology, psychology, parapsychology, zoology, electromagnetism, and utopian social (engineering?)". </li><li><a title="The Logos" href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/The_Logos">The octagon-shaped logos</a> used by the Initiative appear on several items and in several locations on the island, especially in conjunction with the <a title="Stations" href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Stations">Stations</a>. There are multiple logos, but all have a similarity. </li></ul> <div class="editsection">[<a title="Dharma Initiative" href="http://www.ronfez.net/index.php?title=Dharma_Initiative&action=edit&section=2">edit</a>]</div><a name="Known_Facts"></a><h2>Known Facts</h2>Please post only facts here. Theories should be posted below in the theories section, or discussed on the talk page of this article. <ul><li>Created the <a title="Orientation Film" href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Orientation_Film">Orientation Film</a> for training <a title="The Swan" href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/The_Swan">Swan Station</a> inhabitants about <a title="Station 3 Protocol" href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Station_3_Protocol">the protocol</a> after <a title="The Incident" href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/The_Incident">the incident</a> </li><li>DHARMA is an acronym. (Confirmed in the Official Lost Podcast 1.17.06) </li><li>Definition of Dharma <ul><li>Dharma means "moral duty" </li><li>Hinduism & Buddhism. <ul><li>The principle or law that orders the universe. </li><li>Individual conduct in conformity with this principle. </li><li>The essential function or nature of a thing. </li></ul></li><li>Hinduism <ul><li>Individual obligation with respect to caste, social custom, civil law, and sacred law. </li></ul></li><li>Buddhism <ul><li>The body of teachings expounded by the Buddha. </li><li>Knowledge of or duty to undertake conduct set forth by the Buddha as a way to enlightenment. </li><li>One of the basic, minute elements from which all things are made. </li></ul></li></ul></li></ul><div class="editsection">[<a title="Dharma Initiative" href="http://www.ronfez.net/index.php?title=Dharma_Initiative&action=edit&section=3">edit</a>]</div><a name="Theories"></a><h2>Theories</h2><ul><li>The Dharma Initiative built <a title="The Swan" href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/The_Swan">The Hatch / aka Swan Station</a> and the other <a title="Stations" href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Stations">Stations</a> for research purposes </li><li><a title="The Others" href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/The_Others">The Others</a> are really part of the Dharma Initiative performing experiments on and researching the island inhabitants. <

Photoshop Mike

03-04-2006, 09:22 AM

ok, Im confused.. is this related to " LOST" someone please fill me in :)

Crazy Jen

03-04-2006, 12:27 PM

<a href="http://www.oceanicflight815.com/">http://www.oceanicflight815.com/</a> what do you make of this, this site also needs a password to get in

Garcia525

03-04-2006, 12:45 PM

Crazy Jen wrote: <a href="http://www.oceanicflight815.com/">http://www.oceanicflight815.com/</a> what do you make of this, this site also needs a password to get in  the password for that site is "theislandiswaiting" without the quotes.Check out this site for alot of info on the different dharma sites: http://www.mostlymuppet.com/archives/2005/10/14/lost-dharma-initiative-login/

Crazy Jen

03-04-2006, 02:32 PM

VERY COOL< THANK YOU<a href="http://www.oceanicworldair.com/flights.htm">http://www.oceanicworldair.com/flights.htm</a> another clueif you go to <a href="http://www.theislandiswaiting.com/">www.theislandiswaiting.com</a> and theres something to that site, im not sure exactly how it works but theres more to it then you first think

This message was edited by Crazy Jen on 3-4-06 @ 6:49 PM

bobrobot

03-04-2006, 04:00 PM

ok, Im confused.. is this related to " LOST" someone please fill me in <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" />  Yes<img height="396" src="http://www.uih.it/blog/wp-content/DharmaLOST.jpg" width="396" border="0" />Ooo, lookit the really scary swan in the logo, BEWARE THE SWAN!!!

This message was edited by bobogolem on 3-4-06 @ 8:11 PM

Mike from Bklyn

03-04-2006, 04:02 PM

You need a hacker.

bobrobot

03-04-2006, 04:09 PM

You need a hackerWhy should I pay for it when I can get it for free?<img title="storyville hooker" height="321" alt="storyville hooker" src="http://fsweb.berry.edu/academic/hass/csnider/berry/hist375/prostitute.jpg" width="250" border="0" />

This message was edited by bobogolem on 3-4-06 @ 8:10 PM

bobrobot

03-04-2006, 04:41 PM

Can someone crack into the DHARMA SITE? This is a job for Buck Dharma, Blue Oyster Cult guitarist!!!<img height="349" src="http://members.aol.com/mileskb/boc/buck97.jpg" width="273" border="0" />

Garcia525

03-04-2006, 05:39 PM

Mike from Bklyn wrote: You need a hacker.    I have a program that is currently running on the password hashes for this site: <a href="http://thedharmainitiative.org/">http://thedharmainitiative.org/</a>So far it has gone thorugh every combination up to five characters in length but nothing yet.  It's gonna take a while to process the 6, 7, & 8 combinations but I'm hoping to come up with something.

tele7

03-04-2006, 05:47 PM

Garcia525 wrote:  Mike from Bklyn wrote: You need a hacker.    I have a program that is currently running on the password hashes for this site: <a href="http://thedharmainitiative.org/">http://thedharmainitiative.org/</a>So far it has gone thorugh every combination up to five characters in length but nothing yet.  It's gonna take a while to process the 6, 7, & 8 combinations but I'm hoping to come up with something. We you in War Games?

Crazy Jen

03-04-2006, 05:48 PM

OH MY GOD, IF YOU GET THIS, HOLY COW DID YOU SEE THIS? THE WHISPERS AND WHAT THEY ARE SAYING IN THE JUNGLE Jungle Whispers Transcripts <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/replytotopic.cfm/Forum/80/Topic/episodes/207.html">EPISODE 2.07 - "The Other 48 Days" (Click Here for Episode Breakdown) </a> Transcripts by "PENYOURS" and "RVTURNAGE" From The Fuselage Message Boards (Shannon and the "Tailies" in the Jungle) ----- CENTER CHANNEL: "Relax Dude, I think she likes the guy" (5 sec) "You're life" (9 sec) Laughter (10 sec) Creepy 'Gremlin' Voice: "Ich Weiss Nicht "(German for 'I don't know'; 10 sec) "Look out" (11 sec) "Ana's the trigger" (12 sec) "You're gonna kill her" (14 sec) "Move on" (16 sec) Gun shot (16 sec) Chorus: "See ya" (16 sec) ----- LEFT CHANNEL: "Shannon" (5 sec) "She likes the guy, she likes the guy" (5 sec) "Shannon" (7 sec) "Your life and time is up" (8 sec) "Help me" (10 sec) Screaming in the background (11 sec) "Shannon, meet me on the other side" (11 sec) "Her song" or 'Ana-Lucia' when audio is reversed; 15 sec) "Hi sis" (15 sec) Gun shot (16 sec) ----- RIGHT CHANNEL: "Relax dude" (5 sec) "She likes the guy, she likes the guy" (6 sec) "Shannon" (Faint; 6 sec) "I don't think you should tell her when she comes" (8 sec) "Dying sucks" (8 sec) "I know it all, I know it all..." (Faint; 8 sec) "Shannon" (9 sec) "I don't think you should tell her when she comes" (10 sec) "Obviously she likes you" (11 sec) "Who's the guy" (11 sec) "I want to see Shannon" (11 sec) "Who's the guy..." (13 sec) "Eye to eye" (Faint; 13 sec) "Fire Lucia" (13 sec) Laughter (14 sec) "the brothers that helped us" (had to slow audio to hear; 14 sec) "Are you done with it" (14 sec) "Her song" or 'Ana-Lucia' when audio is reversed; 15 sec) Gun Shot (16 sec)

cupcakelove

03-04-2006, 11:05 PM

Garcia525 wrote: Mike from Bklyn wrote: You need a hacker. I have a program that is currently running on the password hashes for this site: <a href="http://thedharmainitiative.org/">http://thedharmainitiative.org/</a>So
far it has gone thorugh every combination up to five characters in
length but nothing yet. It's gonna take a while to process the 6, 7,
& 8 combinations but I'm hoping to come up with something. It could take several years to do it this way.  But if you seriously believe it will work, go for it.  But in the real world, it could take a really really really long time for that method to work.

ShelleBink

03-05-2006, 06:37 AM

Tom Servo wrote: I wouldn't get too crazy over it. It's not an official site.  Most ironic post in this thread goes to.... Tom Servo.

Death Metal Moe

03-05-2006, 06:47 AM

<img height="200" src="http://www.celebrity-pictures-world.com/pics/j/jenna-elfman/jenna-elfman-005.jpg" width="200" border="0" />Well I figured this one out.  Someone else can work on the Greg Initiative.

Doctor Manhattan

03-05-2006, 06:53 AM

Death Metal Moe wrote: <img height="200" src="http://www.celebrity-pictures-world.com/pics/j/jenna-elfman/jenna-elfman-005.jpg" width="200" border="0" />Well I figured this one out.  Someone else can work on the Greg Initiative.<img src="http://img323.imageshack.us/img323/8886/lostlogo035sg.jpg" border="0" /> <img src="http://img414.imageshack.us/img414/6270/lostlogo02a5ht.jpg" border="0" /> hmmmmmmm.....

Death Metal Moe

03-05-2006, 06:56 AM

She's a little wacky, but it there's nudes of her in that website I'll join the fight to get in too.

Garcia525

03-05-2006, 07:10 AM

cupcakelove wrote: Garcia525 wrote: Mike from Bklyn wrote: You need a hacker. I have a program that is currently running on the password hashes for this site: <a href="http://thedharmainitiative.org/">http://thedharmainitiative.org/</a>So
far it has gone thorugh every combination up to five characters in
length but nothing yet. It's gonna take a while to process the 6, 7,
& 8 combinations but I'm hoping to come up with something. It could take several years to do it this way. But if you seriously believe it will work, go for it. But in the real world, it could take a really really really long time for that method to work.   Thats a little bit of an exxageration.  Actually the combinations for 6 characters is done (with no results) and currently it is working on 7 character combinations.  Hopefully it work itself out over the next couple of days and I could come back with something good.

cupcakelove

03-05-2006, 09:01 AM

Garcia525 wrote: 
 Thats a little bit of an
exxageration. Actually the combinations for 6 characters is done (with
no results) and currently it is working on 7 character combinations.
Hopefully it work itself out over the next couple of days and I could
come back with something good. Not entirely. Everytime you add a character, you have to go through every combination again for each possible character. So if it takes one day to test a 6 character string combination, it will take one day times how ever many possible characters there are. If you are only testing letters, that would be 52 days (26 uppercase and 26 lower case) for a 7 character string, and 2704 days for an 8 character string. If you could just brute force crack md5 hashes they wouldn't be so widely used. 

This message was edited by cupcakelove on 3-5-06 @ 1:04 PM

Garcia525

03-05-2006, 12:28 PM

cupcakelove wrote: Garcia525 wrote: 
 Thats a little bit of an
exxageration. Actually the combinations for 6 characters is done (with
no results) and currently it is working on 7 character combinations.
Hopefully it work itself out over the next couple of days and I could
come back with something good. Not entirely. Everytime you add a character, you have to go through every combination again for each possible character. So if it takes one day to test a 6 character string combination, it will take one day times how ever many possible characters there are. If you are only testing letters, that would be 52 days (26 uppercase and 26 lower case) for a 7 character string, and 2704 days for an 8 character string. If you could just brute force crack md5 hashes they wouldn't be so widely used. 

This message was edited by cupcakelove on 3-5-06 @ 1:04 PM  I definitely understand your reasoning to say if it took one day to test all 6 character combinations but it took less than one day to test all combinations with character combinations of 1 thru 6, using uppercase, lowercase and numbers.  Plus you have to take into consideration that it probably takes 1 or 2 seconds to create an md5 hash and check it against the two that already exist to see if there is a match.  The only thing that I'm concerned about is if the person or people who developed this site included special characters.  Now most sites do not use them but if they truly wanted it to be difficult or near impossible they could have incleded them.  Finally I'm praying that they didn't include a "salt" when creating the md5 hash because if that is the case then we'll never be able to crack the hash unless we get lucky with random guessing, which gives us better odds at hitting Powerball.

JimBeam

03-05-2006, 01:14 PM

Two ( one subquestion ) questions unrealted to the actual topic :1a) Is what you are doing in any way illegal ( trying to crack the code in this way ) ?1b) Can we use this to get some passcodes for good porn sites ?2) This sounds interesting. What did/do you study to learn this ? Like what area of computers.

Crazy Jen

03-05-2006, 01:26 PM

Garcia if you pop this code I will take a train down to NY and stand in a damn gorilla suit in front of the studio for the entire showPOP THAT SHIT

bobrobot

03-05-2006, 05:35 PM

W/ yer ass hangin out???<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/bobogolem/baboonAss.jpg" border="0" />

cupcakelove

03-05-2006, 05:48 PM

Ok, I'm going to break down the numbers for you.  If you want to find out how many possible strings there can be with so many possible characters, you raise the total number of possible characters to the length of the string.  So lets say if you wanted to know how many different combinations there are using numbers 0-9 in a three character string.  You would raise 10 (the total number of different characters) to the power of 3 (the length of the string) and you come up with 1000 (which is the total count of numbers going from 0-999).  So lets say they just use alphas and numerals in there, that makes 62 different characters.  The hash is generated using the user id and password put together.  Lets say an average username and password are 8 characters, making the two combined 16 characters long.  Now get out your calculator and raise 62 to the power of 16 and you get 47672401706823533450263330816 possible strings.   Even if you can check a billion strings a second it will still take many many years to crack it.  While you're waiting I suggest you take a statistics class.

Garcia525

03-05-2006, 05:48 PM

JimBeam wrote: Two ( one subquestion ) questions unrealted to the actual topic :1a) Is what you are doing in any way illegal ( trying to crack the code in this way ) ?1b) Can we use this to get some passcodes for good porn sites ?2) This sounds interesting. What did/do you study to learn this ? Like what area of computers.   Ok.....1a)  I'm sure if this was an important website of some sort and there was an actual security risk for the general public to obtain the information that it would probably be deemed illegal.  However since this is a site that was created based around a television program I doubt that our attempts at gaining access would be frowned upon.1b) I doubt this would be useful since most porn sites use more sophisticated encryption methods.  However if you check your PM there's a good link for ya.2) Most of what I have learned is just by surfing and reading and reading and reading.  The program that I'm using is called KMD5 which was a free download and is a pretty basic command-line style program to work out the combinations.  I'm sure you can take classes for Internet Security or Network Administration and that would provide alot of knowledge in this area.

suggums

03-05-2006, 06:10 PM

<img border="0" src="http://www.stringsandstrands.com/images/ged_charming/large/5a.jpg" /> 

This message was edited by suggums on 3-5-06 @ 10:11 PM

Garcia525

03-05-2006, 07:53 PM

cupcakelove wrote: Ok, I'm going to break down the numbers for you. If you want to find out how many possible strings there can be with so many possible characters, you raise the total number of possible characters to the length of the string. So lets say if you wanted to know how many different combinations there are using numbers 0-9 in a three character string. You would raise 10 (the total number of different characters) to the power of 3 (the length of the string) and you come up with 1000 (which is the total count of numbers going from 0-999). So lets say they just use alphas and numerals in there, that makes 62 different characters. The hash is generated using the user id and password put together. Lets say an average username and password are 8 characters, making the two combined 16 characters long. Now get out your calculator and raise 62 to the power of 16 and you get 47672401706823533450263330816 possible strings. Even if you can check a billion strings a second it will still take many many years to crack it. While you're waiting I suggest you take a statistics class.   OK....I get it, I get it.  YES that is an astronomical number of combinations, YOU ARE RIGHT. However not all of the combinations will be tested.  For instance if  the combination "XA" yields a particular hash result that does not match the target then all combinations "XB" thru "XZ" will never result in a match so they will automatically be excluded and skipped for sake of wasted computations.  Taking that into consideration, the total number of possible strings would be exponentially decreased.  Plus  I believe based on information that I've found regarding this site that I have one of the two usernames which cuts the total number of combinations in half.

Death Metal Moe

03-05-2006, 10:06 PM

cupcakelove

03-06-2006, 03:32 AM

Garcia525 wrote: 
 OK....I
get it, I get it. YES that is an astronomical number of combinations,
YOU ARE RIGHT. However not all of the combinations will be tested. For
instance if the combination "XA" yields a particular hash result that
does not match the target then all combinations "XB" thru "XZ" will
never result in a match so they will automatically be excluded and
skipped for sake of wasted computations. Taking that into
consideration, the total number of possible strings would be
exponentially decreased. Plus I believe based on information that I've
found regarding this site that I have one of the two usernames which
cuts the total number of combinations in half. 
Ok, it looks like doing this is bringing some kind of joy into your
life, so I'm just going to stop trying to explain to you why you're
wasting your time. 


This message was edited by cupcakelove on 3-6-06 @ 7:53 AM

Death Metal Moe

03-06-2006, 04:25 AM

Well to be fair, he's not "doing" much himself.  He's just letting a program run, so what is is hurting except maybe some processor use in the background?  Let him be if he thinks he can do something.  I need nudes of Jenna Elfman!!!

Garcia525

03-06-2006, 09:10 AM

cupcakelove wrote: Garcia525 wrote: 
 OK....I
get it, I get it. YES that is an astronomical number of combinations,
YOU ARE RIGHT. However not all of the combinations will be tested. For
instance if the combination "XA" yields a particular hash result that
does not match the target then all combinations "XB" thru "XZ" will
never result in a match so they will automatically be excluded and
skipped for sake of wasted computations. Taking that into
consideration, the total number of possible strings would be
exponentially decreased. Plus I believe based on information that I've
found regarding this site that I have one of the two usernames which
cuts the total number of combinations in half. 
Ok, it looks like doing this is bringing some kind of joy into your
life, so I'm just going to stop trying to explain to you why you're
wasting your time. 


This message was edited by cupcakelove on 3-6-06 @ 7:53 AM  Why is it a waste of time?  If you haven't realized it yet, you're in the "Entertainment" thread, and this for the moment IS entertaining me.  So what's the point of repeatedly telling me that it'll take years and that I should look into taking a statistics class?  Are you familiar with programs that run these types of computations in the first place?And yes, Moe, those nude pics better be smokin' after all this.