Heroin and similar drugs from same family

[Billy Staples]

<p>Does Heroin make you itch?&nbsp; I know Pink said something about it in one of her songs.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>If so is it all over or one spot or&nbsp;whats the deal?</p><p>what about other opiate products....same thing and anyone selling any back scratchers or going on a trip and stopping at a souvenir stand?</p><p>(just kidding)</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Staples</p>

[PapaBear]

<p>I've wondered that too. I do know one thing, though. I'm allergic to Codeine, and if I take it, I itch all over. Found out when I took some Tylenol w/ Codeine when I had 3 broken ribs. The rash made a miserable situation much much worse.</p><p>Since Codeine is similar to morphine, I'd say there may be some sort of reaction with all of them in some people.</p>

[Sheeplovr]

<p>Billy are you tweaking on Speed that might explain the itching <br />
</p><p>im telling</p>

[East Side Dave]

<strong>Billy Staples</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Does Heroin make you itch?&nbsp; I know Pink said something about it in one of her songs.</p><p>Well, I don't know much about Pink, Billy, but Lou Reed tells us on heroin we'll feel just like Jesus' son so I say go for it!</p>

[Fallon]

Does Heroin make you itch? I know Pink said something about it in one of her songs.

I'm lyin' here on the floor where you left me
I think I took too much
I'm crying here, what have you done?
I thought it would be fun

I can't stay on your life support, there's a
shortage in the switch,
I can't stay on your morphine, cuz its making me
itch
I said I tried to call the nurse again but shes
being a little bitch,
I think I'll get outta here, where I can

Run just as fast as I can
To the middle of nowhere
To the middle of my frustrated fears
And I swear you're just like a pill
Instead of makin' me better, you keep makin' me
ill
You keep makin' me ill

I haven't moved from the spot where you left me
This must be a bad trip
All of the other pills, they were different
Maybe I should get some help

[FUNKMAN]

<p>4 Non Blondes</p><p>Substitute my gloom with happiness<br />Substitute my sickness with health<br />Substitute my enemies with real good friends<br />Morphine &amp; chocolate are my<br />Substitute, substitutes<br />Morphine &amp; chocolate can bring me up<br />Can warm my heart whenever i want it<br />And every once in a while when i stop and think<br />Morphine &amp; chocolate are my<br />Substitute, substitutes<br />And you can say &quot; hey, we've really come a long way &quot;<br />And you say &quot; hey, it can only be this way &quot;<br />You might be careful, it really hurts when it's real<br />You might be careful, it really hurts when it's real<br />You'll go down, down, down, down, ooh !<br />Set the alarm clock, baby<br />Don't you miss the sun ?<br />I'm feeling really warm hearted baby<br />Don't you know i'm feeling like someone<br />I'm fearing for my life again and i am<br />Fearing for my heart<br />Morphine &amp; chocolate could never<br />Substitute my art !<br />And that's real love baby x3<br /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>i have a friend who&nbsp;i see every so often and he has been snorting vicodin. last time i saw him he had scabs on his chin, ear, and forehead. maybe from itching? not sure...&nbsp; i have to confront him soon</p>

[PapaBear]

<p>Powerful painkillers like morphine are notorious for provoking itching, especially if they are injected directly into the fluid that bathes the brain and the spinal cord.</p><p>The explanation for this observation: Because the sensation of pain seems to be essential to the process of quelling itch, when the ability to feel pain is dampened by morphine and similar drugs, intractable itch may result. There is evidence that natural morphinelike molecules in the brain, called opioids, may also play an important role in producing the sensation of itch.</p><p>Even though doctors do not yet entirely understand this phenomenon, they have begun to harness it for the treatment of some kinds of chronic itch that have no other known treatments.</p><p></p><p>Found that in <a href="http://www.cityallergy.com/MysteryofItch.htm" target="_self">THIS</a> website.</p>

[bobrobot]

<p><strong><font color="#000099">Heroin made me itch on my face &amp; arms really bad, sometimes I'd be thoughtlessly scratching for so long that I would draw blood!</font></strong></p><p><img height="345" src="http://www.drug-rehab.com/images/heroin_brain.gif" width="341" border="0" /></p><p><strong><font color="#000099">Dammit, just the thought of it has me scratchin' now!</font></strong></p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by bobogolem on 3-2-06 @ 12:55 AM</span>

[Steels]

<strong>Sheeplovr</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Billy are you tweaking on Speed that might explain the itching <br />
</p><p>im telling</p>Are you fat on food?&nbsp; Might explain the bloating.<br />
<p>&nbsp;</p>

[spazemunky]

H heads also get itchy spots where they shoot if they use the same needles over and over.<br />

[Bulldogcakes]

<strong><a href="http://www.lyricsdownload.com/godsmack-lyrics.html">Godsmack Lyrics</a>
- <font>Snakebite Lyrics </font> </strong><br />
<br />
I'm not the one whose so far away<br />
When I feel the snakebite <br />
enter my veins<br />
Never did I wanna be here again<br />
And I don't remember why I came<br />
<br />
Candles raise my desire<br />
Why I'm so far away<br />
No more meaning to my life<br />
No more reason to stay<br />
<br />
Freezing, Feeling<br />
Breathein' Breathein'<br />
<br />
I'm comin back again<br />
I'm not the one who's so far away<br />
when i feel the snakebite<br />
enter my veins<br />
Never did I wanna be here again<br />
and i dont remember why i came<br />
<br />
Hazing clouds rain on my head<br />
Empty thoughts fill my ears<br />
Find my shade by the moonlight<br />
Why my thoughts aren't so clear<br />
<br />
Demons, Dreamin'<br />
Breathin' Breathin'<br />
<br />
I'm comin back again

[bobrobot]

<p><strong><font size="2">Ain't It Strange - Patti Smith (from the album, &quot;Radio Ethiopia&quot;)</font></strong></p><p>Down in Vineland there's a clubhouse, <br />Girl in white dress, boy shoot white stuff <br />Oh, don't you know that anyone can join <br />And they come and they call and they fall on the floor <br />Don't you see when you're looking at me <br />That I'll never end transcend transcend <br />Ain't it strange oh oh oh <br />Ain't it strange oh oh oh <br /><br />Come and join me, I implore thee, <br />I impure thee, come explore me. <br />Oh, don't you know that anyone can come <br />And they come and they call and they crawl on the floor. <br />Don't you see when you're looking at me <br />That I'll never end transcend transcend <br />Ain't it strange oh oh oh <br />Ain't it strange oh oh oh <br /><br />True, true, who are you ? <br />Who, who am I ? <br />Oh da oh da oh da oh da oh da oh da <br /><br />Down in Vineland there's a clubhouse, <br />Girl in white dress, boy shoot white stuff. <br />Oh, don't you know that anyone can come <br />And they come and they call and they fall on the floor <br />Don't you see when you're looking at me <br />That I'll never end transcend transcend. <br />Ain't it strange oh oh oh <br />Ain't it strange oh oh oh <br /><br />Do you go to the temple tonight ? <br />Oh no, I don't think so <br />Do you not go to the palace of answers with me Marie? <br />Oh no, I don't think so, no <br />See when they offer me book of gold, <br />I know soon still that platinum is coming <br />And when I look inside of your temple <br />It looks just like the inside of anyone one man, <br />And when he beckons his finger to me, <br />Well, I move in another direction, <br />I move in another dimension <br />I move in another dimension oh oh oh <br /><br />I spin, I spiral, and I splatter<br />Hand of God, I feel the finger, <br />Hand of God, and I start to whirl <br />And I whirl, and I whirl, <br />Don't get dizzy, do not fall now, <br />Turn, God, God (strange) <br />Go, go on, go like a dervish, <br />Turn, God, (strange) make a move <br />Turn, Lord, (strange) <br />I don't get nervous <br />Oh I just move in another dimension <br />Come move in another dimension <br />Come move in another dimension <br />Come move in another dimension oh oh oh <br />Strange strange <br /><br />Do you go to the temple tonight ? <br />Oh no, I don't think so, no <br />We'll go to the pagoda <br />The palace of answers with me, Marie <br />Oh no, I don't believe so, no <br />See when they offer me book of gold, <br />I know soon still that platinum is coming <br />And when I look inside of your temple <br />It looks just like the inside of anyone one man <br />And when he beckons his finger to me, <br />Well, I move in another dimension <br />I move in another dimension <br />I move in another dimension oh oh oh <br /></p>

[TheProfessor]

_{It's been a while since I've taught psychopharmacology but I think opiates have a fairly strong anticholinergic side effect.&nbsp; This would produce dizziness, dry mouth and itchy skin.&nbsp; <br />}

[cupcakelove]

I don't know about itching, but I have heard that it does make some
people through up.&nbsp; But I've never done it so I wouldn't know for
sure.<br />

[angrymissy]

<p>Opiates make you itch.&nbsp; Herion does it real bad, but you'll see dopeheads doing a slow itch while nodding off.&nbsp; I know someone who did it repedeatly one night and bled and scabbed.</p>

[Patches]

Back in my crazier days I did Ecstasy and slowly scratched the shit out of my leg to the point of drawing blood.&nbsp; I always assumed that was because the E made&nbsp;it feel awesome to do, but now I'm not so sure- who the fuck knows what they press in&nbsp; those pills...

[DarkHippie]

<p>Drugs and Alcohol are both the same</p><p>They make soup, out of your brain</p><p>I don't wanna be pea soup</p><p>I don't wanna be a potato</p><p>I don't wanna be chicken soup</p><p>I just wanna be me</p>

[A.J.]

<p>Does crack make you itch?</p><p><img height="240" src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/berzz/tyrone_biggums.jpg" width="245" border="0" /></p>

[bobrobot]

<strong>A.J.</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Does crack make you itch? </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong><font color="#000099">It makes ya break into a million lil pieces...</font></strong></p>

[Billy Staples]

<p><font size="4">OK...a lot of song lyrics about H, but only a couple mention itching.</font></p><p><font size="4">No opioids in E...lot of coke and other shit from what I'm told...never heard of opiates, but I could be wrong.</font></p><p><font size="4">does the itching last forever? Or is it a temporary thing.&nbsp; It seems that its not just heroin, but morphine and the other opiates in the family..Interesting....</font></p><p><font size="4">sorry Sheepy, no tweaking to report......sleeping too much and enjoying the napping&nbsp;to stay up days on end</font></p><font size="4"><font size="4"><p><font size="4">so we are talking</font></p><p><font size="4">morphine </font></p><p>codeine ( in tylenol 3 or 4&nbsp;or other forms)</p><p><font size="4">vicodin/ hydrocodone</font></p><p><font size="4">percocet?</font></p><p><font size="4">Oxycontin</font></p><p><font size="4">MS contin</font></p><p><font size="4">Fentanyl / duragesic patch</font></p><font size="4"><font size="4"><p><font size="4">that reminds me...be right back....any others?</font></p><p><font size="4">Staples</font></p><p></p></font></font><p></p><p><span class="post_edited">PS: very funny bobo...welcome to our level!!!</span></p></font></font>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Billy Staples on 3-2-06 @ 11:49 AM</span>

[bobrobot]

<strong>Billy Staples</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font size="4" /></p><font size="4"><font size="4"><span class="post_edited">PS: very funny bobo...welcome to our level!!!</span></font></font> <p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong><font color="#000099">I don't even know what I did differently. I feel so out of control!!!</font></strong></p><p><img title="The Fly" height="217" alt="The Fly" src="http://www.cshobbies.com/images/fly%20in%20web2.jpg" width="195" border="0" /></p><p>HELP ME, HELP ME, HELLLLLP MEEEEE!!!!!!</p>

[Death Metal Moe]

I know they say 'Replace one addictin with another&quot; Billy, but people ususally go DOWN from Alchohol to a hobby or something, not UP to Heroine.

[angrymissy]

The itching is temporary while you are on opiates.&nbsp; Is usually around the chest arms area.&nbsp; E is not usually cut w/ coke, people would be stupid to do that, coke is too expensive and ingesting a small amount is not going to do anything.&nbsp; E is usually cut w/ DXM, caffiene, pseduoephedrine (speedy feeling)&nbsp;and shit like that.&nbsp;

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by angrymissy on 3-2-06 @ 12:59 PM</span>

[FUNKMAN]

<strong>A.J.</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Does crack make you itch?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>more importantly, &nbsp;what makes your crack itch?</p>

[bobrobot]

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[ChimneyFish]

<strong>Patches</strong> wrote:<br />Back in my crazier days I did Ecstasy and slowly scratched the shit out of my leg to the point of drawing blood.&nbsp; I always assumed that was because the E made&nbsp;it feel awesome to do, but now I'm not so sure- who the fuck knows what they press in&nbsp; those pills... <p>You probably were given some kind of opiate.</p><p>I used to be addicted to opiates. After being clean for a few years, I tryed E.</p><p>I was suprised to find out that it &quot;suspiciously&quot; felt like heroin.</p><p>I'm thinking it was probably a morphine pill, someone was passing off as E.</p>

[MilkmanDann]

<strong>Death Metal Moe</strong> wrote:<br />I know they say 'Replace one addictin with another&quot; Billy, but people ususally go DOWN from Alchohol to a hobby or something, not UP to Heroine. <p>Well cmon he's a go-getter. </p><p>Face(cheekbones), neck(sides), forearms and shoulders. Heroin makes you very itchy .&nbsp;&nbsp; ... or so I've heard. Alcoholics tend to cramp, usually lower back and especially thighs. </p>

[TheQuestion]

Billy, Billy, Billy...<br />

[Steels]

<p>AngryMissy's 2 posts in this thread pretty much covered all bases.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>A.J.</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Does crack make you itch?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Only if you have cranky ass. &nbsp;</p>

[sr71blackbird]

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[UnknownPD]

<p><font size="3">The Emperor has no clothes. </font></p><p><font size="3">I've always turned to Billy for my illicit drug questions...</font></p>

[bobrobot]

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[Billy Staples]

<p>OK....you have to think of addiction as a horse race</p><p>at the gate Alcohol&nbsp;in the fifth position and they're off Alcohol is in a bottleneck....coming into the first turn</p><p>Marijuana who was ony going 3 miles an hour, slows down cause he got scared and felt he was speeding has now completely stopeed and is getting is eating evertying in sightfrom the infield, the the dirt, he actually is nibbling onhis own hoof.</p><p>as they enter the backstretch as cocaine in a sudden burst of energy and flared nostrils blows ahead, but is starting to come down...and what is this...a glass pipe...it seems cocaine has cracked open something else and is puffing away for 20 seconds and than trying to reload and than runs crazy around the track asking for more, he needs more and has been disqualified...</p><p>Lsd takes the lead, but oh no what a tragedy, he trips and is out of the race...what a bad trip for LSD....</p><p>.the rest of the pack is looking down...Xanex takes the lead but doesnt sustain for very long.&nbsp;Valium comes on and lasts longer but not as much kick to it and loses thel ead to </p><p>Meth amphetaMINE...WAIT i'M SORRY, i HAVE JUST BEEN INFORMED THAT THIS IS ACTUALY METH AMPHETAIMES 5 RACE AND FIFTH TIME AROUND THE TRACK WITH OUt SLOWING DOWN....OK THEY ENTER THE BACK STRETCH..</p><p>VICODIN HaS POPPED THRU, Fentanyl has found a patch to squeeze through and morphine and oxycontin are next but fading fast cause the jockey is spending too much time scratching them with the whip and not using it.....</p><p>and here he comes last but not least of the drugs...the big daddy of them all...he's been around since the 70's, rumored to have a French connection in his blood line and since its his first time using, he feels glorious and the best he has ever felt and is making his way to the finish line, but wait, what is this, he is chasing the first high he just got and is no longer in sight but</p><p>&nbsp;here he comes the one who started it all and will always be there in the end, alcohol is coming.......throwing up along the wayand not exactly following a staight line to the end and is wobbling a bit....but the jockey has put a siren on and flashing lights on&nbsp;behind his head...look at that horse go crosses the finish line in first place...and this ends the vicious horse race of addiction&nbsp;</p><p>starts with alcohol and will ineveitably give up the leads to others a long the way, but we always seem to return to our tried and true...a guaranteed winner!!!</p><p>first place-alcohol (Jockey Sir Ottic Liva_)</p><p>2nd place- cocaine...amazing human interst story, finished the last 2 furlongs with a heart that blew up on the clubhouse turn</p><p>3rd place - 6 hurs and 27 minutes later - valium</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>all the <font size="3">others</font> are still being looked for as we speak</p>

[Death Metal Moe]

Thanks Chairman Staples.&nbsp; Jesus that was long winded!

[FUNKMAN]

<p>i'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy(which is what you just gave us Billy)</p><p>thanks alot!</p><p><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/tongue.gif" border="0" /></p>

[landarch]

<p>Alcoholics tend to cramp, usually lower back and especially thighs. </p><p>Very similar to LSD cramps.&nbsp; I wonder what's the connection?</p>

[Dougie Brootal]

<p>billy,</p><p><img height="280" src="http://www.johnberman.com/pics/funny/i_aint_reading_all_that.jpg" width="225" border="0" /></p>

[Billy Staples]

<p>one in awhile I get the Muse in me again and write something...dont fret, not that often</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>so enjoy it whilst you can</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[ChimneyFish]

<p>I did a little OC this past Friday. Started off with about 20mgs. Then another 20mgs later on.</p><p>After the 2nd 20mgs, I was scratching like a maniac.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>A little OC, a few beers, and some good seats to the Sixers game.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Life is good to you sometimes.</p>

[coffeeal401]

<strong>Fallon</strong> wrote:<br />Does Heroin make you itch? I know Pink said something about it in one of her songs. <em>I'm lyin' here on the floor where you left me I think I took too much I'm crying here, what have you done? I thought it would be fun <strong>I can't stay on your life support, there's a shortage in the switch, I can't stay on your morphine, cuz its making me itch I said I tried to call the nurse again but shes being a little bitch, I think I'll get outta here, where I can</strong> Run just as fast as I can To the middle of nowhere To the middle of my frustrated fears And I swear you're just like a pill Instead of makin' me better, you keep makin' me ill You keep makin' me ill I haven't moved from the spot where you left me This must be a bad trip All of the other pills, they were different Maybe I should get some help</em> <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Listen to the lyrics, it says it all. dont do it.</p>

[Billy Staples]

<p>Missy </p><p>I was under the perception that E was kind of a soup of different shit and coke beng a part of it.&nbsp; Only reason I say that is in rehab, tests for E they said would show up as coke.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I tend to believe what you said, cuase now, that really makes no sense.&nbsp; I guuss the didnthave a test for E</p>

[bones13]

Watching you make a complete ass out of your self never gets old Billy.....Anytime I think you might have something interesting I just replay your red-bank intro...colonoscpy...priceless

[torker]

<p>I'm gonna have to ask Aldo Nova the next time I see him.</p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <img height="152" src="http://www.vh1.com/shared/media/images/sn_legacy/addict/AMG_images/artists/P06219.JPG" width="150" border="0" /></p>

[Hottub]

<p>How&nbsp;does Billy's last reply (or previous, for that matter) make him an ass? I think you are just giddy, being able to interact with Mr. Staples, and have chosen to take the low road!</p><p>Sad. Really!!</p>

[bones13]

Billy is an absolute zero..He has no acting/comedy value...he thinks he is good because he appeared on a show that got cancelled...he was good being Fez's piss boy...thats it...he needs to get over himself....someone should let him know...we are laughing are ass off at him...not with him

[Hottub]

<p>I am not here to stick up for Billy. (Have you ever even talked to the guy?) He is a big enough boy to rip you a new one if he chooses to.</p><p>However, personal attacks on board members will not be tolerated here. Back off, or book a flight to Bermuda!</p>

[torker]

<p>someone should let him know...we are laughing are ass off at him...not with him </p><p>are you sure about that?</p>

[iscream22]

<p>Billy, Billy, Billy, I thought you were trying to be good!</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&quot;It Don't make ya a bad person though!&quot; - Ron</p>

[Billy Staples]

<p><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/wacko.gif" border="0" />Bones...say what you will...i did&nbsp; it, you didnt...you probably are fairly new to the scene so your ignorance is understandable, just not justifiable</p><p>Look at other disagreements and discussions i and others have had, read them or look at the pretty pictures, this is how grown ups do it...so after potty training, give it a shot.</p><p>Ok, I regressed a bit.</p><p>I was never anyones Piss boy and willnever be, so sure you can think that and thats cool but the chosen know the truth...like the Others from LOST</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>And Iscream.....thanks for the concern, I was just curious for a reson other&nbsp; than me going out and buying somebindles if H and giving them a shot...the oldme neer even did that</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>wanted to, but didnt...didnt know anyone who sold it...oh well another life anotherr story</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>keep it coming gang.....and oh yes please I am soooo superiour please bow when youtype to me ouot of respect...it is an honorable thing to do for an ex piss boy&nbsp; <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/king.gif" border="0" /></p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Billy Staples on 3-12-06 @ 1:42 PM</span>