Sex Pistols insult Rock Hall of Fame

[furie]

<a target='blank' href=http://jam.canoe.ca/Music/2006/02/24/1461279-ap.html>NEW YORK (AP) - For years, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame didn't deem the Sex Pistols, the revolutionary punk rock band, worthy of inclusion into its ranks. Now that the Sex Pistols have gained entry into the club, they've decided the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame isn't worthy of their presence.</a>

the RnR HOF is a joke; it deserves to be insulted

[Mr.Pants]

Good for them.

[BoondockSaint]

<img src="http://www.thefilthandthefury.co.uk/images/congrat1.jpg" border="0" />

[curtoid]

Ever feel cheated?<div><br /><img src="http://www.johnlydon.com/images/jlhead.gif" width="203" height="142" align="bottom" border="0" /></div>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by curtoid on 2-25-06 @ 11:37 PM</span>

[TheMojoPin]

I'd almost rather they would show up, just because Lydon would be hilarious.

[suggums]

just put that awesome chickenscratch letter up on the screen when they announce the award<br />

[badorties]

<p>&nbsp;</p><p>wow, that really restores some faith in things ...</p>

[keithy_19]

I hate the Sex Pistols. The Rock n' Roll hall of fame is a joke though. But I still hate the Sex Pistols.

[bobrobot]

<p><strong><font color="#000099">Wow, that is beautiful &amp;&nbsp;just goes to show all ya gotta do is&nbsp;wait long enuff &amp; you'll be presented w/ the opportunity to shit right in yer enemy's mouth!</font></strong></p><p><img height="217" src="http://www.nostalgiacentral.com/images_music/sexpistols443.JPG" width="305" border="0" /></p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by bobogolem on 2-26-06 @ 12:41 AM</span>

[Dirtybird12]

<p>Amen. This is fucking beautiful. Would you expect anything less?</p><p>BTW a few years ago I got to see the REAL pist0ls without that idiot sid of course but with Matlock and the old wanka's rocked the shit out of the 930 club in dc. Rotten is one of the best frontmen. Great rock &amp; roll band- </p><p>Rich - Fat - &amp; Forty.... but still real</p>

[FUNKMAN]

<p>it's anarchy man!</p><p>always enjoyed their music...</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>Glad to see Lydon's mellowed with age. He should go, and bring Sid with him. Now THAT would be a punk rock moment for the ages. <br /> </p><p>Something tells me he doesn't have the 40 grand, since he brought it up. Just a hunch.&nbsp;</p>

[fezident]

<p>Zzzz.&nbsp; The Sex Pistols.</p><p>Is anything&nbsp;<em>more</em> played out than those wild characters they've been playing for the last million years? </p><p>Holy shit...WHO CAAARES?!</p>

[badorties]

<p>Something tells me he doesn't have the 40 grand, since he brought it up. Just a hunch.&nbsp;</p><p>i doubt it a money issue ... he sued mclaren&nbsp;(on behalf of the band) for monies owed, he also has p.i.l money,&nbsp;he wrote a book that's been optioned and the last two tours were quoted as 'lucrative'</p><p>requesting that kind of cash for as an honoree gives the hall all the charm of the hollywood walk of fame ...</p><p>i'm sure&nbsp;mclaren will be more than happy to have a stage, a mic&nbsp;and some attention for a few moments ... he can spin it as the final step in the great swindle</p>

[MilkmanDann]

<p>I love it, just solidifies the pistols in history. Hall of fames are for Baseball and sports, you know Lydon was 100% behind this. Now I'm gonna watch Sid and Nancy tonight</p>

[badorties]

<p>Now I'm gonna watch Sid and Nancy tonight</p><p>one&nbsp;should never watch that piece of dog shit ... watch julien temple's &quot;the filth &amp; the fury&quot; </p>

[Justice4all]

<p>Ok it looks like I am the ONLY one who thinks the RnR Hall of Fame is NOT a joke, they have some amazing and awsome contributors in there (like Queen). Some of their choices have been questionable but who would YOU like to see get in there?</p><p>Sex Pistols? Yes they were revolutionary (although I will admit I never really listened to them) but they seem to not know when to lay down and die (like the Rolling Stones).</p><p>I will admit if it were not for the Pistols and all other Punk Rock then there would not be people like Trent Reznor.</p><p>Gotta Love NIN.</p>

[mikeyboy]

<p>I'll get this part out of the way first.&nbsp;&nbsp;Were the Pistols influential?&nbsp; Hell yeah, if you believe music history, scores of bands were formed in the wake of Pistols shows.&nbsp; Do I enjoy the &quot;Never Mind the Bollocks...&quot; album?&nbsp; Sure.&nbsp; Do I think the Pistols should be in the Rock &amp; Roll Hall of Fame?&nbsp; No.&nbsp; They put out one fucking proper release, and their best known lineup featured a strung-out junkie who couldn't even play bass.&nbsp; The Pistols explosion and subsequent implosion were revolutionary, but I say the idea of the Sex Pistols (DIY spirit, the ability to shock, etc.) was more influential than the Pistols as a body of musical work.&nbsp; As far as musical influence in creating punk, I'd warrant more credit should go to the Ramones, the New York Dolls, Iggy &amp; the Stooges, the MC5, etc.&nbsp; For me, that's not enough to get into the Hall of Fame, dodgy prior selections and all.</p><p>As for the band's refusal to appear, this does indeed scream Johnny Lydon.&nbsp; It definitely isn't the fact that he doesn't have the money -- he made tons of cash from the reunion tours, and is now back in the limelight as a UK celeb because of a turn on the English version of &quot;I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here.&quot;&nbsp; Lydon's doing this because he's expected to be outrageous, but frankly, he's morphed into a cranky, old woman and a charicature of his former self.&nbsp; They don't want to be there?&nbsp; Fuck 'em.&nbsp; They shouldn't be there anyway.</p>

[Death Metal Moe]

<p>The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is for faggots.</p><p>No Sabbath?&nbsp; </p><p>I hope everyone involved burns in Hell.</p>

[trackstand]

<p>Hard to believe a MUSICAL version of the punk era such as MAGAZINE isn't mentioned here yet.</p><p>&quot;I will drug you and fuck you on the permafrost&quot;</p>

[MilkmanDann]

<strong>mikeyboy</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I'll get this part out of the way first.&nbsp;&nbsp;Were the Pistols influential?&nbsp; Hell yeah, if you believe music history, scores of bands were formed in the wake of Pistols shows.&nbsp; Do I enjoy the &quot;Never Mind the Bollocks...&quot; album?&nbsp; Sure.&nbsp; Do I think the Pistols should be in the Rock &amp; Roll Hall of Fame?&nbsp; No.&nbsp; They put out one fucking proper release, and their best known lineup featured a strung-out junkie who couldn't even play bass.&nbsp; The Pistols explosion and subsequent implosion were revolutionary, but I say the idea of the Sex Pistols (DIY spirit, the ability to shock, etc.) was more influential than the Pistols as a body of musical work.&nbsp; As far as musical influence in creating punk, I'd warrant more credit should go to the Ramones, the New York Dolls, Iggy &amp; the Stooges, the MC5, etc.&nbsp; For me, that's not enough to get into the Hall of Fame, dodgy prior selections and all.</p><p>As for the band's refusal to appear, this does indeed scream Johnny Lydon.&nbsp; It definitely isn't the fact that he doesn't have the money -- he made tons of cash from the reunion tours, and is now back in the limelight as a UK celeb because of a turn on the English version of &quot;I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here.&quot;&nbsp; Lydon's doing this because he's expected to be outrageous, but frankly, he's morphed into a cranky, old woman and a charicature of his former self.&nbsp; They don't want to be there?&nbsp; Fuck 'em.&nbsp; They shouldn't be there anyway.</p><p>Bullshit, the fact that they were so musically influential solidifies their place in history. Sid a horrible Bassist? yeah, awful. Noone under age 35 knows who the New York dolls or the Stooges are, but they know the Sex Pistols. 1 Album was all they needed, they're a beautiful bloody piece of rock history.</p>

[Gvac]

<p>It's the height of irony that an art form as anti-establishment as
rock and roll has a formal and proper &quot;Hall of Fame&quot; in the first
place.&nbsp; </p><p>That they'd elect the Pistols is even more hilarious.</p><p>I have no interest in the Hall and I say kudos to Lydon and the boys for thumbing their noses at the hypocrisy.&nbsp;</p>

[SatCam]

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is for faggots.

No Sabbath?

I hope everyone involved burns in Hell.

ummm Moe...

<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />

I hate to tell you, but they're inducting Black Sabbath this year...

[trackstand]

<p>Nobody has heard of Magazine?</p><p>Where's BoBo?</p>

[mikeyboy]

<strong>Burblefrump</strong> wrote: <p>Bullshit, the fact that they were so musically influential solidifies their place in history. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Clulturally influential, not musicall influential, I'd argue -- It was more attitude, look, shock value, and the realization that&nbsp;anyone&nbsp;can start a&nbsp;band are the Pistols lasting legacy.&nbsp; If you're going to put something in the Rock &amp; Roll Hall of Fame because it merely inspired lots of music, you might as well put the Vietnam War&nbsp;and England's socio-political climate in the mid-70s into the Hall of Fame.</p><p>Sid a horrible Bassist? yeah, awful. </p><p>He couldn't play, plain and simple.&nbsp; He was recruited by Johnny Lydon after they sacked Glen Matlock (and after the &quot;Bollocks&quot; sessions) because Lydon was convinced that he had the proper look and attitude for the band (and could be taught the bass).&nbsp; Often, however, during live performances, Sid's bass was completely turned down.</p><p>Noone under age 35 knows who the New York dolls or the Stooges are, but they know the Sex Pistols. </p><p>Which is entirely consistent with being culturally significant but not musically significant.&nbsp; </p><p>1 Album was all they needed, they're a beautiful bloody piece of rock history</p><p>And they were a piece of rock history, just not a band that needs to be inducted into the Hall of Fame in their own right.&nbsp; Let them be a part of the punk exhibit at the Rock &amp; Roll Hall of Fame Museum.</p>

[Death Metal Moe]

<strong>SatCam</strong> wrote:<br />The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is for faggots. No Sabbath? I hope everyone involved burns in Hell. ummm Moe... <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />I hate to tell you, but they're inducting Black Sabbath this year... <p>Wow, that was big of them.&nbsp; I hope Sabbath sends a similar letter.&nbsp; Let Ozzy write it and it'll be both outrageous and hysterical.</p>

[Death Metal Moe]

Also, wanted to add that The Sex Pistols never put out anything that impressed me, sorry.&nbsp; Seemed more of a gimmick to me.

[bobrobot]

<p>Nobody has heard of Magazine?</p><p>Where's BoBo?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong><font color="#000099">Sorry, I'm here now,&nbsp;Budday!!! &amp; I am in agreement, LOVE Magazine, espesh Howard Devoto &amp; Barry Adamson!!! I believe they are considered to be a &quot;post punk&quot; band, which makes them an art band w/ an attitude! Secondhand Daylight!!! Even the fuckin title is great!!!</font></strong></p><p><strong><font color="#000099">But they'll never get in because there's a secret clause that says if you cover a Captain Beefheart song, you're fucked, forget about it! &amp; they covered &quot;I Love You, You Big Dummy,&quot; from Lick my Decals Off, Baby as a B side to their &quot;Give Me Everything.&quot;</font></strong></p><p><img title="devoto" height="250" alt="devoto" src="http://shotbybothsides.com/nme5_210778.jpg" width="320" border="0" /></p><p>I love them, those big dummies!!!</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by bobogolem on 2-26-06 @ 2:57 PM</span>

[mikeyboy]

<strong>Death Metal Moe</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>SatCam</strong> wrote:<br />The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is for faggots. No Sabbath? I hope everyone involved burns in Hell. ummm Moe... <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />I hate to tell you, but they're inducting Black Sabbath this year... <p>Wow, that was big of them.&nbsp; I hope Sabbath sends a similar letter.&nbsp; Let Ozzy write it and it'll be both outrageous and hysterical.</p><p>Actually, a few years ago, didn't Ozzy threaten to do just that if Sabbath were inducted into the Hall of Fame?</p>

[Mr.Pants]

<strong>Gvac</strong> wrote:<br /><p>It's the height of irony that an art form as anti-establishment as rock and roll has a formal and proper &quot;Hall of Fame&quot; in the first place.&nbsp; </p><p>That they'd elect the Pistols is even more hilarious.</p><p>I have no interest in the Hall and I say kudos to Lydon and the boys for thumbing their noses at the hypocrisy.&nbsp;</p><p>Well said. A group that was banned from radio is going to take part something so contrived as having to elect its members. Its music not a competition.</p>

[trackstand]

<p><strong><font color="#000099">Sorry, I'm here now,&nbsp;Budday!!! &amp; I am in agreement, LOVE Magazine, espesh Howard Devoto &amp; Barry Adamson!!! I believe they are considered to be a &quot;post punk&quot; band, which makes them an Art Band w/ an Attitude! Seconhand Daylight!!! Even the fuckin title is great!!!</font></strong></p><p><strong><font color="#000099">But they'll never get in because there's a secret clause that says if you cover a Captain Beefheart song, you're fucked, forget about it! &amp; they covered &quot;I love You, You Big Dummy,&quot; from Lick my Decals Off, Baby as a B side to their &quot;Give Me Everything.&quot;</font></strong></p><p><strong><font color="#000099" /></strong></p><p><strong><font color="#000099">Yes,&nbsp;and don't forget the nice Sly Stone cover song.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font color="#000099">Also, they played more than 3 different chords so...</font></strong></p><p><strong><font color="#000099">Good point about Capt Beefheart!</font></strong></p><p><strong><font color="#000099">Did you ever look into Mats Morgan?</font></strong></p>

[BoondockSaint]

<strong>mikeyboy</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Death Metal Moe</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>SatCam</strong> wrote:<br />The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is for faggots. No Sabbath? I hope everyone involved burns in Hell. ummm Moe... <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />I hate to tell you, but they're inducting Black Sabbath this year... <p>Wow, that was big of them.&nbsp; I hope Sabbath sends a similar letter.&nbsp; Let Ozzy write it and it'll be both outrageous and hysterical.</p><p>Actually, a few years ago, didn't Ozzy threaten to do just that if Sabbath were inducted into the Hall of Fame?</p><p>Yup:</p><p>In a 1999 letter to the Hall of Fame, Ozzy famously told the institution to &quot;Just take our name off the list. Save the ink. Forget about us. The nomination is meaningless, because it's not voted on by the fans. It's voted on by the supposed elite for the industry and the media, who've never bought an album or concert ticket in their lives, so their vote is irrelevant to me.&quot; He added, &quot;Let's face it, Black Sabbath has never been media darlings. We're a people's band and that suits us just fine.&quot;<br /></p>

[Death Metal Moe]

<p>A little more elegant that the Sex Pistol's letter, but does the same job.</p><p>Fuck the Hall of Fame.&nbsp; I hope Sabbath sticks to their guns on this one.</p>

[Stankfoot]

<p>&nbsp;</p><p>The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a waste of time. Who needs to see Jim Morrison's cub scout uniform?</p><p>If you want rock history go to places like CBGB's before they're gone!</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Mike Teacher]

<p>Seems a given in music that it's an utterly futile and irrelevant thing; but almost every membership organization, and for a way out of left field example, the National Academy of Science, supposedly this important organization in the field, and National Honor Society for another, is nothing more then a collection of people who have deemed themeselves important for some reason, wrap it up into the R+R HOF or the NAS or NHS, and all it is is a bunch of people digging 'who we are' and al they really do is decide who belongs and who deosnt belong with 'us'. </p><p>Richard Feynman was arguably the best mind since Einstein, won the Nobel in Physics, and he resigned from the NAS exactly because of this. He said all the politics involved in who gets in was the only thing that seemed to go on, he loathed it and what it stood for, so bye bye. </p><p>and I forget who mentioned the pistols as simmick before, but wasnt that Malcolm McClaren exact intent, aka the Great&nbsp;Rock and Roll&nbsp;Swindle? I think ditto for Bow Wow Wow. Ok now we need to find that Annabella thread...</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Mike Teacher on 2-26-06 @ 3:45 PM</span>

[bobrobot]

<p><font color="#000099"><strong></strong><font color="#000000">we need to find that Annabella thread...</font><strong></strong></font></p><p><strong><font color="#000099">C-30, C-60, C-90 GO! WHOA!!! Hominah Hominah Hominah...</font></strong></p><p><img height="263" src="http://www.spoiltvictorianchild.co.uk/images/BowWowWow.jpg" width="392" border="0" /></p><p>miss The Slits (but not all of them, ha ha ha)</p><p>miss The Bush Tetras... miss The Raincoats... miss Essential Logic...&nbsp;</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by bobogolem on 2-26-06 @ 4:16 PM</span>

[Mike Teacher]

<p>Bobo dont get me started us old fucks remember when Stiff Records was the cool new label and you got your Richard Hell, The Damned, Ian Dury, Lene Lovich, early Devo fuck me what a great era in music.</p><p>And nice call back on 'Your Cassette pet'</p>

[FUNKMAN]

<p>i guess the RnR HOF will always have it's controversy like any other HOF such as baseball's and football's...</p>

[MilkmanDann]

In the end, the Sex Pistols rocked Punk back in the day, and 30 years later, slapped industry in the face.

[FUNKMAN]

<p>slapped industry in the face</p><p>i'd say &quot;they beat them into Submission&quot; down down dragging me down...<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smile.gif" border="0" /></p><p>great song to jam to...</p>

[bobrobot]

<p><strong><font color="#000099">miss</font></strong></p><p><img title="Ian Dury/Blockheads" height="343" alt="Ian Dury/Blockheads" src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/bobogolem/duryian-sex-12inch-lp.jpg" width="360" border="0" /></p><p><img title="You'll Always Find Me In The Kitchen At Parties" height="200" alt="You'll Always Find Me In The Kitchen At Parties" src="http://www.theturkeyzone.com/acatalog/METROCD077-200.jpg" width="202" border="0" /></p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by bobogolem on 2-26-06 @ 9:35 PM</span>