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[DirtyJersey]

<strong>curtoid</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Good shot of Meadow crying her eyes out next week, which leads me to think that something terrible happens to Finn...</p><p>Please please please</p>

[bobrobot]

<p><strong><font color="#000099">Living la Vito loca ???</font></strong></p><p><img height="129" src="http://images.tvnz.co.nz/tvnz_images/tv2/programmes/the_sopranos/episode_nine_c_one.jpg" width="232" border="0" /><img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/bobogolem/VitoSpatafore.jpg" border="0" /></p>

[pennington]

<strong>curtoid</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I really think that Ade is going to be a major card that will bring the house of cards down&nbsp;. </p><p>That and the murder of Frankie Valle's character.&nbsp;&nbsp;It&nbsp;keeps coming up:&nbsp;the NY underboss to Tony, Christopher to the junkie who dealt with the Italians. And in the previews, they show Johnny Sac being offered a deal if he talks.</p>

[pennington]

<strong>rruffian</strong> wrote:<br /><font size="3">I'm still wondering if the Russian (the interior decorator) from the Pine Barrons episode is gonna come back and wack Pauly?&nbsp; Keep in mind, they never found his body!</font> <p>In an interview with The Star Ledger before this season began, David Chase was asked directly if the Russian will ever come back. His answer - &quot;NO&quot;.</p><p>They even addressed this last seaon when Christopher asks Pauly about whatever happened to the Russian.&nbsp;&nbsp;Pauly's answer - &quot;Who gives a fuck?&quot;.</p>

[zildjian361]

<strong>pennington</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>rruffian</strong> wrote:<br /><font size="3">I'm still wondering if the Russian (the interior decorator) from the Pine Barrons episode is gonna come back and wack Pauly?&nbsp; Keep in mind, they never found his body!</font> <p>In an interview with The Star Ledger before this season began, David Chase was asked directly if the Russian will ever come back. His answer - &quot;NO&quot;.</p><p>They even addressed this last seaon when Christopher asks Pauly about whatever happened to the Russian.&nbsp;&nbsp;Pauly's answer - &quot;Who gives a fuck?&quot;.</p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;there's so many things they never tied up. &quot;Who givesa fuck?&quot;. where's Furio? only 3 episodes left.<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/thumbdown.gif" border="0" /></p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>zildjian361</strong> wrote:<br /><blockquote /><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;there's so many things they never tied up. &quot;Who givesa fuck?&quot;. where's Furio? only 3 episodes left.<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/thumbdown.gif" border="0" /></p><p>only 3 for now but theres still 6 more after that i think in january</p>

[Ndugu]

the pressure on the family is building<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/rolleyes.gif" border="0" /><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/rolleyes.gif" border="0" /><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/rolleyes.gif" border="0" /><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/rolleyes.gif" border="0" />

[HBox]

I really could have done without the gay erotica.<br />

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>Best thing that happened in this episode. Vito left New Hampshire. No more of Vito kissing his boyfriend. </p><p>Thats gonna be bad news for somebody, though. Vito coming back makes no sense, unless he's on a suicide mission. Him taking out the guy from the car accident tells you that. He cant risk being discovered. (Though he will be by leaving his car at the murder/accident scene) I'll guess he'll try to take out as many of the people who ruined his life before he gets killed himself. The easiest target for him is Meadow's boyfriend, which of course will be devastating to Meadow. I'll also guess that he doesn't make it through the next episode. <br /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 5-14-06 @ 10:08 PM</span>

[Judge Smails]

<p>My nominee for line of the week: &quot;What the fuck is that?&quot; </p><p>Johnny Sac's expression was priceless.</p><p><img src="http://www.redbagcollection.com/p817.jpg" border="0" /></p>

[King Imp]

<strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Best thing that happened in this episode. Vito left New Hampshire. No more of Vito kissing his boyfriend. </p><p>Thats gonna be bad news for somebody, though. Vito coming back makes no sense, unless he's on a suicide mission. Him taking out the guy from the car accident tells you that. He cant risk being discovered. (Though he will be by leaving his car at the murder/accident scene) I'll guess he'll try to take out as many of the people who ruined his life before he gets killed himself. The easiest target for him is Meadow's boyfriend, which of course will be devastating to Meadow. I'll also guess that he doesn't make it through the next episode. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I have a bad feeling that the rumored Vito-Finn rape scene is going to happen next week. </p><p>It's one thing to watch two guys kissing, but no one wants to see one of them getting rammed up the ass.&nbsp; <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/thumbdown.gif" border="0" />&nbsp;</p>

[Don Stugots]

that would be interesting to see. a 20-something year old guy, in good shape (no homo) getting raped by an old fat guy with bad hips and is easily winded.

the thing that got me laughing was vitos internal monolgue of the day passing him by. When i was a carpenter i would do say the same things about lunch, etc.

to me, next week looks like tony protecting vito from the ny crew.

[Furtherman]

<p>Bobby's train going into the tunnel immediately after Johnny Cakes turns Vito over?&nbsp; Nice touch.&nbsp; </p>

[pennington]

<strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Best thing that happened in this episode. Vito left New Hampshire. No more of Vito kissing his boyfriend. </p><p>Right, enough already, we get it.&nbsp; And for that matter, I hope we're spared any more scenes of Tony and Carmella going at it.</p><p>Once again this season, once you start feeling some compassion for one of these characters, they do something contemptable, like Vito killing the guy whose car he hit. The preview for next week hints at the boys going behind Tony's back and taking care of Vito. Although the previews have been&nbsp;misleading, intentionally or not.</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>pennington</strong> wrote:<p>The preview for next week hints at the boys going behind Tony's back and taking care of Vito. Although the previews have been misleading, intentionally or not.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Thats an interesting plot line. Vito is/was part of Tony's crew. If anything is to happen to him, it has to go through Tony, period. Philly Leotardo wanting to clip him is totally out of line, he has to get Tony's OK. And with the boss Johnny Saks in jail (and losing face every week), that could get messy without the usual method of avoiding things getting out of hand. And of course, Philly still has the grudge over his brother. </p><p>I dont see Tony going to the mat over a gay guy, but I do see him protecting his turf. I think that will be the theme of next weeks show.&nbsp; &nbsp;</p><blockquote /><p>&nbsp;</p>

[booster11373]

<p>Wouldn't Phil become boss of the New York family after Johnny plead guilty. How do they decide who becomes boss, Is Phil like the VP and just moves up automatically or does something else happen?</p>

[kdubya]

<strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br />&nbsp;the thing that got me laughing was vitos internal monolgue of the day passing him by. When i was a carpenter i would do say the same things about lunch, etc. to me, next week looks like tony protecting vito from the ny crew. <p>Was this the first time Sopranos used a voice over. It seemed kind of strange and out of place. It was funny though.</p>

[UnknownPD]

<p>Vito coming back makes no sense</p><p>Actually Vito coming back makes perfect sense. He's never worked a real day in his life, he's run out of money. His boyfriend has no idea who he is and Vito knows if he tells the truth Johnnycakes will wind up dead. Like he was rationalizing about the time of day he rationalized that he could come back and somehow make things right. Two things we've seen so far...he's not suicidal and he's not a rat...though like everything else that could change</p>

[DirtyJersey]

I hope Vito can somehow make good with Tony and find a way to get paid in NH without getting killed over it. I dont know why but I want to see Vito and Johnnycakes have a happy ending. (insert joke here)

[kdubya]

<p>I like how they show Vito in NH trying to make him a nice guy. Saving the day with the power lines, making dinner for his man, etc...</p><p>Then a few minutes later he shoots someone in the back in cold blood to remind you he is a criminal and killer. Thats what makes this show great</p>

[newport king]

<p>Thats what makes this show great</p><p>and i thought it was all the man on man action. (no homo)</p>

[kdubya]

<strong>newport king</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p>Thats what makes this show great <p>&nbsp;</p><p>and i thought it was all the man on man action. (no homo)</p><p>Thats waht makes the show &quot;Really&quot; great </p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<strong>booster11373</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Wouldn't Phil become boss of the New York family after Johnny plead guilty. How do they decide who becomes boss, Is Phil like the VP and just moves up automatically or does something else happen?</p><p>&quot;Acting Boss&quot; not boss. Johnny Sacs would still be in charge. Bosses have been known to run their families (and even all out wars) from jail. But as you saw with Tony and Philly making thier own side deal, things dont run as smoothly with the boss in jail. While the cats away. . . . . </p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Best thing that happened in this episode. Vito left New Hampshire. No more of Vito kissing his boyfriend. </p><p>Thats gonna be bad news for somebody, though. Vito coming back makes no sense, unless he's on a suicide mission. Him taking out the guy from the car accident tells you that. He cant risk being discovered. (<font style="background-color: #ffff00">Though he will be by leaving his car at the murder/accident scene)</font> I'll guess he'll try to take out as many of the people who ruined his life before he gets killed himself. The easiest target for him is Meadow's boyfriend, which of course will be devastating to Meadow. I'll also guess that he doesn't make it through the next episode. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>he didnt leave his car there, he drove away in it after getting unstuck from the jeep or whatever suv truck it was</p>

[Alice S. Fuzzybutt]

<p>that would be interesting to see. a 20-something year old guy, in good shape (no homo) getting raped by an old fat guy with bad hips and is easily winded. </p><p>Unless Vito has a gun...</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>booster11373</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Wouldn't Phil become boss of the New York family after Johnny plead guilty. How do they decide who becomes boss, Is Phil like the VP and just moves up automatically or does something else happen?</p><p>&quot;Acting Boss&quot; not boss. Johnny Sacs would still be in charge. Bosses have been known to run their families (and even all out wars) from jail. But as you saw with Tony and Philly making thier own side deal, things dont run as smoothly with the boss in jail. While the cats away. . . . . </p><p>tony also has the deal with johnny with john asking tony not to let phil know, so that should be fun if it ever comes out that tony's playing both sides.</p><p>as for the boss thing i guess since john is still alive and with his plea deal would be out in 15 years he could resume the throne once he gets out but whats the protocol when a boss gets whacked or just dies of natural causes, how do they pick a new boss ??</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>The Captains all vote on it. But while he's alive, the boss is still in charge. </p><p>Philly's a classic underboss. He has no intentions of becoming boss, he follows orders. Which is why you pick someone like him to be #2. Just like when Silvio had such a hard time when he was acting boss. He's not cut out for it. &nbsp; </p>

[JimBeam]

<p>Posted in a now locked thread that they screwed up on HBO On Demand and showed, and according to Snoogans are still showing, tonights episode yesterday.</p><p>Yeah I know.</p><p>I came home from work last night at like 6 and my g/f was watching it, I was thinking the prior week's episode, and I know I didnt recognize one scene. I thought she was watching one from a few seasons ago.</p><p>Then she starts saying things that I know were/are going to happen this season.</p><p>Thats when I looked at the episode descripitions and knew that something was amiss.</p><p>Did you watch it Snoogans ?</p>

[Snoogans]

<p>not only still showing, i just ordered it and have it paused waiting for someone to get here and watch it. I was shocked, they usually wait til after it shows at 1am on HBO west to throw the shit up. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>What would kick ass is if Chase filmed a meaningless episode and they put it up and then tonight the episode will be comepletely different. That would be great&nbsp;</p>

[JimBeam]

<p>Yeah they usually make the announcement after the episode on Sunday that it'll be available On Demand starting Monday.</p><p>That would be funny if it's a fake.</p><p>As I said its a good episode w/ the exception of a few parts.</p>

[Don Stugots]

holy shit i am watching it right now.

[JimBeam]

<p>Too bad we cant place bets on the outcome.</p><p>We'd rake in the dough.</p>

[Don Stugots]

i thought it was a good one. another good set up to something big coming down the line for the finale. plus, i saw it a few hours early so it made even better.

[FUNKMAN]

<p>just caught last week's last night. felt sorry for Vito and another horrible blow job scene to join pesce's in casino and liotta's in goodfellas.&nbsp; no fucking head bobbing up and down, back and forth, nothin'</p>

[HBox]

<p>TWO MOTHERFUCKING WEEKS!?!?!?!?!</p><p>Hopefully Cablevision will let the new episode slip out a week ahead of time this time.&nbsp;</p>

[Fallon]

I could have done without the Paris garbage.<br />

[Don Stugots]

<hr color="cococo" align="left"></font><strong>HBox</strong> wrote:<br><p><font color=Navy><font size=2>TWO MOTHERFUCKING WEEKS!?!?!?!?!</p><p>Hopefully Cablevision will let the new episode slip out a week ahead of time this time.</font></font> </p><hr color="cococo" align="left"><p></p>

TWO WEEKS is ponderous. Now, if that one is a big set up for the last 8 episodes i am going to be pissed.

[King Imp]

<p>Thank God for the two whackings to offset that boring Carmella-Paris crap. </p>

[Hottub]

<p>Goddam! That may have been one of the best hours of TV in ages! (minus the Paris Bullshit)</p><p>Phil had a made man whacked without an OK. You know that will lead to a shit-storm next week. AJ took a construction job, He's &quot;in&quot;.</p><p>And yes, I believe that was&nbsp; King's X&nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;Goldilocks&quot;</p><p>Love that tune!! An iPod staple!!</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Hottub on 5-22-06 @ 7:53 AM</span>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>This played out exactly as expected. Philly clipped Vito without
getting Tony's OK., now Tony's pissed off about it. I'd like to know
which family the big ballbreaker who got clipped was with. I'll guess
NY and Philly's family. That could lead to a big misunderstanding
between Philly and Tony. If Philly thinks Tony had the big ballbreaker
clipped as retaliation for Vito, now there's a blood fued between the
two of them. As it is, clipping a made guy will not go unnoticed or
unanswered for. Looks like Tony vs Philly in the finale. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Best line of the night&nbsp;</p><p>Philly &quot;I'm here to talk to you about the finnochio&quot;</p><p>Tony &quot; wh.. FUCK THIS!&quot;&nbsp;</p>

[El Mudo]

Carlo was one of Phil's guys....thats why Tony was pissed off

[FUNKMAN]

sounds like i actually saw tonight's show last night...&nbsp;now i've go to backtrack&nbsp;

[Doctor Manhattan]

<font color="#000066" size="2">So who the fuck was that guy who they killed at the Bada Bing?</font>

[EliSnow]

<strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br /><p>This played out exactly as expected. Philly clipped Vito without getting Tony's OK., now Tony's pissed off about it. I'd like to know which family the big ballbreaker who got clipped was with. I'll guess NY and Philly's family. That could lead to a big misunderstanding between Philly and Tony. If Philly thinks Tony had the big ballbreaker clipped as retaliation for Vito, now there's a blood fued between the two of them. As it is, clipping a made guy will not go unnoticed or unanswered for. Looks like Tony vs Philly in the finale. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Best line of the night&nbsp;</p><p>Philly &quot;I'm here to talk to you about the finnochio&quot;</p><p>Tony &quot; wh.. FUCK THIS!&quot;&nbsp;</p><p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">Wasn't the ballbreaker one of the guys that killed Vito?&nbsp;&nbsp; When I saw him walking into the back of the butcher's shop where Silvio was, I thought that it was one of the guys.</font></p>

[AKA]

<strong>EliSnow</strong> wrote:<br /><p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">Wasn't the ballbreaker one of the guys that killed Vito?&nbsp;&nbsp; When I saw him walking into the back of the butcher's shop where Silvio was, I thought that it was one of the guys.</font></p><p>Yes he was.</p><p>I loved last night's episode - even the stuff with Carm I found interesting, but it really was a &quot;fish out of water&quot; kind of experience, and they managed to bookend the season with both her and Tony having possible life changing moments of clarity. And the appearance of Ade was a nice touch - also bringing the season back in on itself.</p><p>Did anyone get the impression from this that we are suppose to believe that almost a full year has passed since the heart attack?</p>

[badorties]

<p>&nbsp;</p><p>some of the self-absorbed psycho-babble by carmella was a bit much -- but, i guess edie falco was due an episode</p><p>really harsh scene with vito's kids at the end ... and a real throw away scene with the photographer</p><p>it&nbsp;resolved all the major threads for the season with the aftermath to follow</p><p>did anyone notice christopher's sponsor having a beer in the scene where the gang&nbsp;found out about vito ...?</p><p>can't wait of the finale</p>

[Doctor Manhattan]

<strong>badorties</strong> wrote:<br /><p>...and a real throw away scene with the photographer </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font color="#000066" size="2">I missed that, when did he have that picture taken?</font></p>

[margin]

<p>good episode</p><p>I think the whole Paris part of the show was in there to show that Carmella was starting to feel some guilt, and the fact that she seems to understand finally, that all the people whom conviently disapeared were because of some decision Tony made.</p><p>...That guy who asked Vito for the loan at th grocery store was kind of funny because he knew Vito's days were numbered and he would never have to pay him back. </p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>Gus</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>EliSnow</strong> wrote:<br /><p><font size="3" face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Wasn't
the ballbreaker one of the guys that killed Vito? When I saw him
walking into the back of the butcher's shop where Silvio was, I thought
that it was one of the guys.</font></p><p>Yes he was.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Are you serious? I didn't get a good look at him in the hotel. </p><p>And
then that prick goes to the Bing to rub it in?&nbsp; After they killed
someone from Tony's crew w/o his OK? What a pair of balls. He deserved
to die, alot more than Vito did. </p><p>I must admit, it bugged me
this morning that Vito got killed just for being gay. I'm with Tony on
this. He's finished with them and who cares how he lives. Also, the
scene itself wasn't a big payoff after they devoted half the season to
his charecter. Nothing like what happened last year with Ralphie, which
was unbelievable. They should have shown the beating, and the thing
being shoved up his ass. That would make me hate Philly's guts, like I
hated Ralphie after he beat the pregnant stripper to death.&nbsp; <br />
</p><blockquote /><p>&nbsp;</p>

[EliSnow]

<strong>Doctor Manhattan</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>badorties</strong> wrote:<br /><p>...and a real throw away scene with the photographer </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font color="#000066" size="2">I missed that, when did he have that picture taken?</font></p><p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">First episode of the season showed Vito being a spokesperson for losing weight, and having people take pictures of him.</font></p>

[Reephdweller]

<p>The whole Carmella in Paris was a complete waste of time. I mean I get it that they're trying to show how she thinks of a life outside of the one she has, though this has been pretty much been established since around late first season and into the second season. There's nothing new about this.</p><p>Big Ass Crazy Prediction...AJ gets killed uiltimately, maybe not in the next episode, though during the last season. Meadow will have gone off to California with Finn so Carmela will feel all alone and frustrated which will tie into he wanting another life, and she ultimately kills Tony in the end....of the series.</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>Here's my ending. Tony and his family are walking down the steps of an opera house in Italy, and Meadow gets shot by a bullet meant for Tony. She dies (a badly acted death) in his arms, and Tony goes into diabetic shock. Then everyone wonders why they bothered doing another season. <br /></p>

[Reephdweller]

<p>She dies (a badly acted death)</p><p>Sounds like every death in the series.</p>

[EliSnow]

<strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Here's my ending. Tony and his family are walking down the steps of an opera house in Italy, and Meadow gets shot by a bullet meant for Tony. She dies (a badly acted death) in his arms, and Tony goes into diabetic shock. Then everyone wonders why they bothered doing another season. <br /></p><p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">You forgot that she has to sleep with her cousin before that.</font></p>

[Don Stugots]

i can play the cousin, i would do it for free and i will pay my way back and forth. deal?

[badorties]

<p>&nbsp;</p><p>I must admit, it bugged me this morning that Vito got killed just for being gay. I'm with Tony on this. He's finished with them and who cares how he lives. Also, the scene itself wasn't a big payoff after they devoted half the season to his charecter. Nothing like what happened last year with Ralphie, which was unbelievable. They should have shown the beating, and the thing being shoved up his ass. That would make me hate Philly's guts, like I hated Ralphie after he beat the pregnant stripper to death.</p><p>it seemed that phil was taken back by vito's violent end; his wife's religious nonsense appeared to annoy him and the final scene of him sleepless (maybe) was a sign of remorse/regret</p>

[TheMojoPin]

I don't get the hate for the Carmella stuff.&nbsp; It's not like it didn't prevent anything from happening.&nbsp; In an epsidoe where we see 2 people brutally murdered, it's still a &quot;waste of time.&quot;&nbsp; The Carmella plotline is going to be just as important, if not moreso, than anything else we're seeing right now.&nbsp; It really drove home, and I think quite beautifully, how much of a world there is out there besides the shit these mobsters bury themselves and their families in.&nbsp; She's seeing that she can escape if need be...and there's more than the fat psychopath she sleeps next to back at home.&nbsp; Between seeing Paris and the dream about Adrianna and the talk about Jackie Jr., what Carmella decides in the next 9 episodes will ultimately decide the fate of Tony Soprano above anything else.&nbsp; &quot;Waste of time&quot; indeed.

[cupcakelove]

<strong>TheMojoPin</strong> wrote:<br />Between
seeing Paris and the dream about Adrianna and the talk about Jackie
Jr., what Carmella decides in the next 9 episodes will ultimately
decide the fate of Tony Soprano above anything else. &quot;Waste of time&quot;
indeed.<p>I agree completely, there wasn't a part of the last episode I did not enjoy.&nbsp; I thought it was great all around.<br /></p>

[kdubya]

<strong>cupcakelove</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>TheMojoPin</strong> wrote:<br />Between seeing Paris and the dream about Adrianna and the talk about Jackie Jr., what Carmella decides in the next 9 episodes will ultimately decide the fate of Tony Soprano above anything else. &quot;Waste of time&quot; indeed. <p>I agree completely, there wasn't a part of the last episode I did not enjoy.&nbsp; I thought it was great all around.<br /></p><p>After last nights episode I am kinda done with this show. There was nothing that got me excited about watching last night. Just kinda blah</p><p>I get the Carmela stuff, and how it's &quot;importent&quot;. I just can't get excited about it.</p><p>They only thing I liked was when Tony smashed AJs car with the football helmet. </p>

[Plethora]

<p>Anyone else catch the way that Phil entered the scene for Vito's death?&nbsp; He came out of the closet... The writer's just having a bit of fun?&nbsp; Or foreshadowing?&nbsp; Seemed like Phil's wife was actually the one that put things in motion for Vito to be killed.&nbsp; And Phil's wife seems... well, I think there might be more going on with Phil and this story line.</p><p>Carmela in Paris was garbage.&nbsp; It reminded me of watching <em>The Singing Detective</em> -- widely hailed as a masterpiece, but for my money, it was ponderous masturbation under the&nbsp;cover of allegedly subtle story telling.&nbsp; When you get the point, you get the point.&nbsp; There's no need to punish us with it.&nbsp; Perhaps the only interesting thing that happened was Carmela bring up the dead Apreel's (sp?)... We spend half the episode waiting for that?</p>

[Furtherman]

<strong>kdubya</strong> wrote:<br /><p>After last nights episode I am kinda done with this show. There was nothing that got me excited about watching last night. Just kinda blah</p><p>Then don't watch the finale.&nbsp; I dare you.</p>

[Furtherman]

<strong>badorties</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><p>it seemed that phil was taken back by vito's violent end; his wife's religious nonsense appeared to annoy him and the final scene of him sleepless (maybe) was a sign of remorse/regret</p><p>Phil wasn't upset about Vito - he wanted it done that way.&nbsp; He was awake at night because one of his guys was just offed by Tony's guys and there is now a big rift between the NY &amp; NJ families.&nbsp; This could lead to another mob war.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>And yea...Plethora... Phil coming out of the closet in Vito's hotel room was classic.&nbsp; Another fantasic episode.</p>

[JimBeam]

<p>I dont think Phil's wife wanted Vito dead I think she was more saying he needed to atone religiously.</p><p>I did catch that Phil came out of the closet in that scene and there was that wierd hand gesture he was making as they were beating him.</p><p>Again whether they were just trying to get you to over analyze that, which is probably the case because I dont think they'd do 2 gay story lines not matter how much of a twist they'd think it was, is another story.</p><p>I think him late at night was either guilt over having killed him while also being gay or just that he might've realized that he acted out of &quot; fear &quot; and that the guy was family even if he was gay.</p><p>I knew that guy was gonna get killed when he went into the Bing.</p><p>I knew it wasnt planned but that he'd talk himself into something.</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p> </p><strong>TheMojoPin</strong> wrote:<br />I don't get the hate for the Carmella stuff. It's not like it didn't prevent anything from happening. In an epsidoe where we see 2 people brutally murdered, it's still a &quot;waste of time.&quot; The Carmella plotline is going to be just as important, if not moreso, than anything else we're seeing right now. It really drove home, and I think quite beautifully, how much of a world there is out there besides the shit these mobsters bury themselves and their families in. She's seeing that she can escape if need be...and there's more than the fat psychopath she sleeps next to back at home. <br /><p> </p><p>DING DING DING!</p><p>First prize to the one of the few people who actually got it. Though I dont think she'll decide anything in relation to Tony business wise. She may however, return to NJ and come to realize that she's doomed, and then slowly turn into Tony's mother. Which would bring the show full circle.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p> </p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 5-23-06 @ 4:20 PM</span>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><strong>Plethora</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Anyone else catch the way that Phil entered the scene for Vito's death? He came out of the closet... The writer's just having a bit of fun? Or foreshadowing? <br /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>He <em>was</em> the one who had the biggest &quot;problem&quot; with it. Do you think he doth protest too much?&nbsp;</p><blockquote /><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>You've got to love the writers of this show. Its like &quot;The Godfather&quot;. You watch it for the 50th time and still notice little things you missed the first 49.&nbsp; &nbsp;</p>

[UnknownPD]

<p>I dont think Phil's wife wanted Vito dead I think she was more saying he needed to atone religiously</p><p><font size="2">nah...she wanted him dead</font></p>

[Alice S. Fuzzybutt]

<p>The way Vito died was a little brutal. A pool cue? Ouch. So much for the *exclusive* of Finn getting ass raped!</p><p>I really liked the Paris scenes. It showed Carmela getting out&nbsp;in the world and appreciating the beauty of it. I think she felt a lot of grief for turning a blind eye over the years. The scene with Aidriana was great. </p><p>I'm glad AJ was forced to get a job. I liked when Tony smashed his car sunroof. I hate spoiled kids.</p><p>I can't believe we have to wait two weeks for the season finale. It went by quickly.</p><p>It kind of sucks the season is ending. It sucks more the series is ending. At least we only have to wait a few months for the last season.</p>

[blakjeezis]

<p><span class="postbody">I liked when Tony smashed his car sunroof. I hate spoiled kids.</span></p><p>I swear to God I thought for the briefest, fleeting instant that he was gonna crack AJ over the head with it. That would have been amazing. My dick got hard a little.&nbsp;</p>

[King Imp]

<p><font style="background-color: #e7e7e7"><font style="background-color: #ffffff">On a radio program down near me, they would regularly talk to the actor who plays Vito. The last time they did, which was after he got whacked, he was genuinely pissed off because he felt his best work all season was done in that episode, but they decided to cut a lot of his scenes to concentrate on that Carmella bullshit. </font></font></p>

[DJEvelEd]

<p>At least Vito died happily, especially if they played 9 ball.</p><p>Remember the cue ball is slightly larger.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Rack 'em up!</p>

[pennington]

<strong>King Imp</strong> wrote:<br /><p><font><font>but they decided to cut a lot of his scenes to concentrate on that Carmella bullshit. </font></font></p><p>I guess they had to justify the expense of that shoot in Paris.</p><p>What a waste of half the show.&nbsp;She could have just as easily had the same revelations and insights with a trip to Amish country in Pennsylvania and 10 minutes of airtime.</p>

[kdubya]

<strong>Furtherman</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>kdubya</strong> wrote:<br /><p>After last nights episode I am kinda done with this show. There was nothing that got me excited about watching last night. Just kinda blah</p><p>Then don't watch the finale.&nbsp; I dare you.</p><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; color: black; font-family: verdana">I am gonna Tivo it and watch it&nbsp;at my&nbsp;leisure, so there </span>

[Judge Smails]

<strong>King Imp</strong> wrote:<br /><p><font style="background-color: #e7e7e7"><font style="background-color: #ffffff">On a radio program down near me, they would regularly talk to the actor who plays Vito. The last time they did, which was after he got whacked, he was genuinely pissed off because he felt his best work all season was done in that episode, but they decided to cut a lot of his scenes to concentrate on that Carmella bullshit. </font></font></p><p>I caught the tail end of an interview with him on WPLJ&nbsp;(NO HOMO) where he was complaining about the same thing.&nbsp; He&nbsp;seemed&nbsp;REALLY bitter about it.&nbsp; He said how the night the show first aired was the first time he saw the final cut.&nbsp; He had a large group of friends and family over the house to watch it and he was shocked and angered that they cut out all of his dialogue.&nbsp; Apparently he did a lot of begging and pleading for his life and they cut all of that out.&nbsp; He said how&nbsp;mad he was and how his wife was crying.&nbsp; It reminded me of that Simpsons episode where Homer has everyone over to watch his big Poochie the Dog episode and Itchy and Scratchy kill off the character.</p><p>When you think about what little screen time some of the major characters have gotten this year he really shouldn't be complaining.&nbsp; Dr. Melfi, Meadow and Uncle Junior have basically just been making cameo appearances.&nbsp; Meanwhile, the whole season has practically revolved around Vito.&nbsp; He just came off as sounding like an ungrateful fat fuck.&nbsp; If I was David Chase I'd do everything in my power to have him blacklisted so he can never work again.</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by judge_smails on 5-27-06 @ 12:12 PM</span>

[Hottub]

<p>OK, Buddays, Strap yourself in! No JohnnyCakes, no Paris, just some good old fashion whacking!!!!!</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>(No ESD)!</p>

[OGC]

<strong>Hottub</strong> wrote: <p>(No ESD)!</p><p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" size="3">(No ESD) and no new episode tonight. A$$holes.</font></p>

[Hottub]

<p>FUCK!!!!! What Bullshit!</p><p>I gotta get TV Guide!!!</p>

[Reynolds]

Continued next year???? I thought last weekend was going to be the final episode?&nbsp; Wasn't that supposed to be 13?&nbsp;&nbsp; I read today that 1 - 12 will be this year, and the season was extended to 20 episodes which will be aired in 2007.&nbsp; <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/TV/05/30/television.sopranos.reut/index.html">http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/TV/05/30/television.sopranos.reut/index.html</a>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>mudeater</strong> wrote:<br />Continued next year???? I thought last weekend was going to be the final episode?&nbsp; Wasn't that supposed to be 13?&nbsp;&nbsp; I read today that 1 - 12 will be this year, and the season was extended to 20 episodes which will be aired in 2007.&nbsp; <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/TV/05/30/television.sopranos.reut/index.html">http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/TV/05/30/television.sopranos.reut/index.html</a> <p>yeh i remember them saying that before these episodes came on that they were gonna break up the episodes and show some in jan 07 to drag it out a bit</p>

[zildjian361]

this weekend is the final episode this year. starts up again in jan 07

[badorties]

<p>&nbsp;</p><p>i wonder if there'll be that single moment/pop that drive us crazy until january ...? </p><p>or will it just be a series of set-ups for the <em>final </em>act ...?</p>

[jess87]

SAY IT ISN&quot;T SO

[Fallon]

Tonight. Woooo!<br />

[Earlshog]

6 minuted to showtime and Direct TV is on the fritz... HELP!!!

[Don Stugots]

<hr color="cococo" align="left"></font><strong>Fallon</strong> wrote:<br>Tonight. Woooo!<br /><hr color="cococo" align="left"><p></p>


No Fallon, its NOW. WOOOOOO

[torker]

<p>Damn, it's on at the same time as the Iron Chef bacon battle.</p>

[Earlshog]

<p>no its not cause direct TV BLOWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>this stinks and I don't like it!</p>

[Fallon]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>Earlshog</strong> wrote:<br /><p>no its not cause direct TV BLOWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p><p> </p><p>this stinks and I don't like it!</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Just watch it On Demand later....</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Ohhh, sorry.&nbsp;</p>

[Don Stugots]

skeefoza!!

[Don Stugots]

they got jungle fever
they got jungle fever

[barjockey]

chris gonna get whacked?

[NickyL0885]

<p>&quot;I gotta try and take a shit&quot; - Phil</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Best line in tv history.lmao&nbsp;</p>

[Don Stugots]

my turkey neck of a nephew

[barjockey]

were they watchin' taxi driver?

[FUNKMAN]

<strong>NickyL0885</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&quot;I gotta try and take a shit&quot; - Phil</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Best line in tv history.lmao&nbsp;</p><p>&quot;Gary just took a shit&quot; - Wierd Science&nbsp;- runs a close 2nd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smile.gif" border="0" /></p>

[HBox]

That was anti-climactic.<br />

[hereintheUK]

two and a half years for that.<br />

[Don Stugots]

here is a cliff hange: Someone might spill wine on the rug!!! OOOOOHHHHHH NNNNNNOOOOOO THE HORROR OF IT ALL.

or

THE SPICK STEALS A PEICE OF THE SILVERWARE!!!!!!!

[Ndugu]

<p>ya, a family christmas party, that's what will get me to watch next season</p>

[hereintheUK]

Almost as good as Godfather 3<br />

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>Merry Christmas everybody!<br /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Best line-&quot;You smell the piss in here?&quot; -Uncle Junior<br /></p>

[FUNKMAN]

<strong>hereintheUK</strong> wrote:<br />Almost as good as Godfather 3<br /><p>now that's funny!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; very nice!!</p>

[Fallon]

Wow, that was bad.<br />

[DirtyJersey]

I thought every other episode this season had some redeeming quality, this episode didnt have one (in my opinion). Wow, Chris is a junkie? No shit. That was awful. Julianna Margulies is smokin hot though.

[runnerkid]

AJ is gettin the hottest chick on the show??&nbsp;

[runnerkid]

oh yeah.. AJ's girl.&nbsp; where is her baby's daddy?&nbsp; did tony kill him, and now she is plotting to kill him?&nbsp; im always looking to the angle.&nbsp; she is way to hot for him. <br />

[Recyclerz]

<p>[edit] Forgot to apologize in advance for the gratutitous shot to follow.&nbsp; Sorry.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>It's almost as if the episode was written by East Side Dave...</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>There was no payoff, is what I'm saying.</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Recyclerz on 6-4-06 @ 11:02 PM</span>

[Fallon]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>runnerkid</strong> wrote:<br />AJ is gettin the hottest chick on the show?? <p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font color="#000000">Dania Ramirez. Apparently she's in X3 too.</font></p><p>Fucking sexy.</p><p><img width="263" height="400" border="0" src="http://www.universomarvel.com/news/dania_ramirez.jpg" />&nbsp;</p>

[King Imp]

<p>If this were a mid-season episode, I would say it was okay, but for a season ender it flat out sucked. </p><p>Hey David Chase, watch 24, watch Lost, watch The Shield. That's how you end a season. </p>

[FUNKMAN]

<p>like Avril Lavigne so eloquently said</p><p>&quot;So Much For My Happy Ending&quot;</p>

[bcphil]

<p>It will be interesting to see how many apologists still exist for this show after the mid season finale last night. Again, nothing happened. </p><p>The show has become the East Side Dave of television entertainment, all build up and never a pay off. I know, I know, it's all building to the last 8 episodes, those are going to be the really good ones right? Just like the the begining of this season was building to last nights episode and that was going to be the good one. </p><p>It's very sad to see a show once so powerful and relevant reduced to being boring, over stylized, and to self important. </p>

[OGC]

<strong>King Imp</strong> wrote:<br /><p>If this were a mid-season episode, I would say it was okay, but for a season ender it flat out sucked. </p><p>Hey David Chase, watch 24, watch Lost, watch The Shield. That's how you end a season. </p><p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" size="3">Not an apology but,&nbsp;I believe&nbsp;David Chase wanted to end this show after season 3 before the wrtiting got stale. Then HBO threw a ton of money his way and the series continued.</font></p><p><font face="times new roman,times,serif" size="3">I have to agree that there wasn't much in that last episode, but even as it is, Sopranos is better than 95% of the other shows on TV.</font></p>

[Gvac]

<p>All of you complainers better watch yourselves.&nbsp; Questioning the unparalleled brilliance of The Sopranos is akin to heresy on this board.&nbsp; Tread lightly and rethink your position; I'm sure you'll see the error of your ways and realize that David Chase is just smarter than all of us and our feeble minds are unable to comprehend the subtle genius of last night's chapter.&nbsp; </p><p>You must all be slack-jawed simpletons who just want to see mindless violence and naked Bada Bing girls. &nbsp;</p><p>Thankfully I gave up on The Sopranos weeks ago and didn't have to suffer through the past month's episodes.&nbsp; It was probably over my head anyway.<br /></p>

[AKA]

<p>People are either forgetting or ignoring that (according to HBO &amp; Chase) that this story is not the final episode of the season - it wasn't suppose to feel like a season finale, but more like the ending of the second-to-final act. They did resolve some of the seasons loose ends (Carm &amp; the spec house and her obsession with Ade), and the ending set up the possibilities that it really could go in any number of different directions with their final act. We don't know if there will be an all out war - we don't know if there will be a rat - we don't know which of the random threads are the ones to watch for, and which ones will never be resolved (the Muslims, again, at the Bada Bing was another reminder of that).</p><p>I am very frustrated that they split up this season like this, because it feels unfair to the fans to bust up the momentum for a show people are asked to make such investments on (between paying and time, etc). The episode was not a great cliffhanger for the final eight, and it ultimately isn't a very satisfying to end the last 12, but I'm not going to pretend that it wasn't a fantastic hour of television.</p><p>The scenes with Christopher and Julianna were amazing (imo); lots of tension, and she is just gorgeous&nbsp;- Phil's heart attack at the hit put out on the NJ family was a good wrinkle (especially with Tony's emotions running from jolly to concerned as the episode) - AJ's smokin' hot girl - and I will never hate an episode that starts off with a chopped off head in a freezer, naked girls in santa hats or Uncle Junio talking about the smell of piss.</p>

[TheMojoPin]

<p>Well, I enjoyed it.&nbsp; I wasn't knocked onto the floor by how great it was, but then again, I wasn't expecting anything along those lines so there was no surprise there.</p><p>Honestly, when has this show EVER ended a season like any other series on TV?&nbsp; They don't &quot;do&quot; cliffhangers or the big moment type final episodes.&nbsp; If we're talking in terms of killings, those ALWAYS happen 1, 2 or even 3 episodes BEFORE the final episode of each season.&nbsp; The closest thing to a cliffhanger was between season 1 and 2 with the whole Big Pussy issue, and you know what?&nbsp; That led to what was, in my opinion, THE flat out worst season, season 2.&nbsp; The Big Pussy storyline is the closest this series has come to doing things like &quot;regular&quot; shows and it ended up being horribly anti-climactic and cliched.</p><p>I've said this almost from the beginning...you can't watch this show like other series.&nbsp; And that's not meant to be &quot;snotty&quot; or &quot;highbrow&quot; or whatever other bullshit someone wants to toss out.&nbsp; This series is just written that way...it's meant to be taken as a whole.&nbsp; We started watching these peoples' lives as if they were already going full blast...nothing was &quot;introduced&quot; all nice and neat like most other shows.&nbsp; Their lives were going on before we came in and they'll go on after we leave.&nbsp; That's life.&nbsp; Life does not have happy endings...things aren't usually wrapped up all perfect and tidy.&nbsp; And with this season ESPECIALLY being continued in January, how can anyone honestly say they expected everything to end last night cleanly?&nbsp; The next episodes are part of this season...it's not a break like the other years.</p><p>All of you complainers better watch yourselves.&nbsp; Questioning the unparalleled brilliance of The Sopranos is akin to heresy on this board.&nbsp; Tread lightly and rethink your position; I'm sure you'll see the error of your ways and realize that David Chase is just smarter than all of us and our feeble minds are unable to comprehend the subtle genius of last night's chapter.</p><p>If you don't like it so much...why ya care?&nbsp; I really don't understand this sentiment that if someone doesn't like the show, people who DO still like it are perceived as being snooty or arrogant.&nbsp; You don't like the show...great!&nbsp; I hate <em>24</em> and<em>&nbsp;Lost </em>and<em> The Shield</em>, shows brought up by others as being &quot;better&quot; at ending their seasons.&nbsp; Does that make those bad shows?&nbsp; Of course not.&nbsp; *I* just don't like them.&nbsp; There's an obvious difference between saying &quot;I'm not into this show/season like I was in the past&quot; and &quot;this show sucks&quot; when the latter simply isn't true.&nbsp; I'm sorry, but <em>The Sopranos</em>, even at its lowest points, is nowhere nearing a bad show.&nbsp; People are going to get defensive if they're still into it and others are inexplicably saying the whole thing is terrible instead of saying that they just don't like it anymore.&nbsp; Your comments above indicate you feel people were taking shots at you because you think the show is bad, but it works the other way, too...you've had no problem making it sound like people still watching are foolish for doing so or wasting their time.&nbsp; This isn't personal!&nbsp; It's a TV show!&nbsp; If you're going to rag on an entire series and the people who watch it, don't be surprised if people turn around and do something similar!</p><p>You must all be slack-jawed simpletons who just want to see mindless violence and naked Bada Bing girls.</p><p>I think there is a lot of truth to this thinking, despite your sarcasm.</p><p>It will be interesting to see how many apologists still exist for this show after the mid season finale last night. Again, nothing happened.</p><p>How did nothing happen?&nbsp; Character wise, TONS happened.&nbsp; What else was supposed to &quot;happen?&quot;&nbsp; When you see major characters getting kill

[Ndugu]

when words are in CAPITAL it means *I* mean BUSINESS!

[mothershucker]

Am I the only one who gets queesy whenever Christopher is getting high?

[TheMojoPin]

<strong>Ndugu</strong> wrote:<br />when words are in CAPITAL it means *I* mean BUSINESS! <p>I gotta make up for mooks like you who seem allergic to them.</p><p>HITTING TEH EXTRA BUTTON IZ HARD!1!1!!</p>

[Ndugu]

<p>Mookie?</p><p><img src="http://images.google.com/url?q=http://www.chattablogs.com/colrus/archives/images/mookie1.jpg" border="0" /></p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><strong>mothershucker</strong> wrote:<br />Am I the only one who gets queesy whenever Christopher is getting high?<p>&nbsp;</p><p>Me too. I still think that somehow it will ultimately lead to Tony's downfall. He's too unstable to be as close to Tony as he is. THat really wasn't a season finale in so many ways. We really dont know what the status is with Philly and NY, we're not sure that Chris and his girlfriend are still together. About the only thing resolved was Carm's spec house moving foward. &nbsp; <br /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><blockquote /><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>BTW-Mojo, agree 100%. &nbsp;</p>

[Reephdweller]

<p>Mojo, I agree with you to the extent that the seasons end pretty much similarly without cliffhangers, though I think that the way that HBO had the press pumping this season up as &quot;explosive&quot; that people were expecting a lot more. I think that's where the problem comes in mostly. </p><p>I didn't like the episode very much, though I would have liked it if they had either tied up some things though as usual they just add more and more loose ends or storylines that just go nowhere which can get frustrating at times.</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>You're not one of those people still waiting for the big Russian guy to come back, are you?<br /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>HE'S NOT COMING BACK.&nbsp;</p>

[Davios]

<p>My brother went to get a haircut the other day and he read one of those enquirer-esque rags, he didn't recall which one it was, but he told me they had supposed spoilers about Adrianna returning because it never showed her get killed by Sil. </p><p>The story would then go that she got away from Silvio somehow and is now in witness protection. I was pretty disgusted by the whole concept and when I saw Carmella spouting off about a private investigator I really thought this crap might be true. Perhaps they may be saving it for next season, which would only further cement the fact that this series should have ended long ago. </p><p>I'm not putting this as a spoiler simply because I don't know that it is true. It would of course seem to fit in considerin they are already apparantly setting up Junior to eventually testify against Tony.</p>

[UnknownPD]

<font size="2">The Good...no Janice...The bad everything else...oh yeah and when does Christopher turn?</font>

[pennington]

<p>It was the &quot;Feel-Good&quot; show of the season.</p><p>Christopher breaks up with his girl friend, apparently goes&nbsp;to a narc-anon meeting and goes back to his pregnant wife. AJ works hard, gets a new girlfriend and buys her jewerly in a store, not through his father. Carmella gets her spec house back on track. And Tony makes nice with Phil in the hospital.</p><p>This show could have been on PAX-TV; it would fit in with their other heart-warming stories. I sadly have to agree with the others who think this show is done.&nbsp;I'll watch the final 8 episodes, of course, but even then they'll waste at least 3 episodes to build up to something.</p>

[zildjian361]

It had it's moments,I thought Tony was gonna choke Philly,think back onthe season TONY gettin shot,the Johnny Sack wedding,the whole Vito thing ,Ill be watching in Jan07.

[Don Stugots]

there is no doubt as a long time fan of this show that the season was great but last nights episode made it like they would all live happily ever after when meanwhile we are supposed to care about the next 8 shows. it just didnt make sense.

[Hottub]

<p>Maybe <strong>that</strong> is HBO's cliffhanger! Everybody is happy. People are making peace. It's Christmas. All is good.</p><p>The FINAL episodes...!</p>

[FUNKMAN]

<strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br />there is no doubt as a long time fan of this show that the season was great but last nights episode made it like they would all live happily ever after when meanwhile we are supposed to care about the next 8 shows. it just didnt make sense. <p>the calm before the storm my friend, the calm before the storm</p><p>Furio will return to clean house, i assure you (i hope)</p><p><img height="152" src="http://www.moviecentral.ca/content3/sopranos1-5/cast/furio.jpg" width="152" border="0" /></p>

[Friday]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>King Imp</strong> wrote:<br /><p>If this were a mid-season episode, I would say it was okay, but for a season ender it flat out sucked. </p><p>Hey David Chase, watch 24, watch Lost, watch The Shield. That's how you end a season. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Agreed!</p><p>Maybe
the episode was just a collection of set-ups for next year, but
really... not the way to give your viewers a reason to look forward to
the final 8.</p><p>&nbsp;Those wacky Polygamists on Big Love kicked the patootie out of the Sopranos last night....in my humble opinion.<br />
</p><blockquote /><p>&nbsp;</p>

[zildjian361]

<strong>FUNKMAN</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br />there is no doubt as a long time fan of this show that the season was great but last nights episode made it like they would all live happily ever after when meanwhile we are supposed to care about the next 8 shows. it just didnt make sense. <p>the calm before the storm my friend, the calm before the storm</p><p>Furio will return to clean house, i assure you (i hope)</p><p><img height="152" src="http://www.moviecentral.ca/content3/sopranos1-5/cast/furio.jpg" width="152" border="0" /></p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Carmella's spec house no doubt.<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/wink.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Don Stugots]

<hr color="cococo" align="left"></font><strong>Friday</strong> wrote:<br><p> </p><strong>King Imp</strong> wrote:<br /><p>If this were a mid-season episode, I would say it was okay, but for a season ender it flat out sucked. </p><p>Hey David Chase, watch 24, watch Lost, watch The Shield. That's how you end a season. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Agreed!</p><p>Maybe
the episode was just a collection of set-ups for next year, but
really... not the way to give your viewers a reason to look forward to
the final 8.</p><p> Those wacky Polygamists on Big Love kicked the patootie out of the Sopranos last night....in my humble opinion.<br />
</p><blockquote /><p> </p><hr color="cococo" align="left"><p></p>

the blonde looked cute last night after her makeover.

[FUNKMAN]

<p>i watched approx 40 minutes of it today and thought it was pretty good. </p><p>it's a little funny, i started talking to a co-worker about it a little while ago and his&nbsp;first reaction was &quot;it really wasn't that good&quot;. but after talking about the different scenes and thinking back on them he seemed to chang his mind, he was laughing about some scenes and his eyes widened when thinking about the hottie latino on top of AJ.</p><p>it may be like music. sometimes the first listen does nothing for ya, but a 2nd listen and you're hearing and enjoying things you never heard the first time?</p><p>maybe?</p>

[FUNKMAN]

<p><font size="7">THANK YOU!</font></p><p><font size="1">Whoever you are who made me the new avatar.&nbsp; I love it, you, and everyone!</font></p>

[Friday]

<p>I agree with the above by Funkman... I do think the last episode,
and the entire season really, require the viewer to THINK a bit further
than the first impression.&nbsp; And once you allow yourself to do so,
you find undertones that have the potential to create a killer last
season.... no pun intended.</p><p>&nbsp;The trouble is... most americans don't like to THINK at all.&nbsp; They prefer their world to be spoon fed .</p>So, no &quot;Wacking&quot; equals a bad episode....&nbsp; blahbladeblah

[spoon]

HEY!

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>Friday</strong> wrote:<br /><br /><p>The trouble is... most americans don't like to THINK at all. They prefer their world to be spoon <br /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I think I'm in love. .&nbsp; . . . &nbsp;</p><blockquote /><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Don Stugots]

<hr color="cococo" align="left"></font><strong>Friday</strong> wrote:<br><p>I agree with the above by Funkman... I do think the last episode,
and the entire season really, require the viewer to THINK a bit further
than the first impression. And once you allow yourself to do so,
you find undertones that have the potential to create a killer last
season.... no pun intended.</p><p> The trouble is... most americans don't like to THINK at all. They prefer their world to be spoon fed .</p>So, no "Wacking" equals a bad episode.... blahbladeblah<hr color="cococo" align="left"><p></p>


hotness, the episode was a good one. but not for the one episode that is to set up the final 8 shows. it was supposed to be a diving board for things to come. but all that tension between the families was taken out with you had Phil crying from tony's words. Phil is supposed to be old school hard ass, take no shit, show no weakness. he was showen all year to be the that would piss on someones death bed even his own. now as he is on it he cries? he ripped his good friend and boss a new ass for crying. maybe, he if said something to Tony in that scene i would feel different. i dont need the whacking to make the episode good, it did have good moments but the "its a wonderful life" ending did suck.

[Don Stugots]

need to make a correction, i need all the whacking i can get but in the shower.

[Furtherman]

I thought the line of the night was &quot;We should stop counting our chickens.&quot;

[Friday]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br />need to make a correction, i need all the whacking i can get but in the shower. <p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Yah...&nbsp; me too. &nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Oh.. and sorree Spoon!&nbsp; I meant no disrespect. &nbsp;<img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/tongue.gif" />&nbsp;</p><blockquote /><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Friday]

<p>ok just watched the replay.... and honestly... I did enjoy it more.</p><p>Even
the end scene was a little bit less annoying and a little bit more
obvioiusly a set up for whats to come.&nbsp; Perhaps a calm before a
storm.&nbsp; Time will tell!&nbsp;</p>

[Don Stugots]

<hr color="cococo" align="left"></font><strong>Friday</strong> wrote:<br><p> </p><strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br />need to make a correction, i need all the whacking i can get but in the shower. <p> </p><p> </p><p>Yah... me too. </p><p> </p><p>Oh.. and sorree Spoon! I meant no disrespect. <img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/tongue.gif" /> </p><blockquote /><p> </p><hr color="cococo" align="left"><p></p>


ok now you are just being a tease or a really good flirt. either way, nice.

[IamFogHat]

So...As bad as the season finale was, is anyone else having Sopranos withdrawl?

[Bama]

<p>So is it over now? </p><p>I loved the show but kind of got over it after the 3 year hiatus or whatever. </p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>IamFogHat</strong> wrote:<br />So...As bad as the season finale was, is anyone else having Sopranos withdrawl? <p>i'm not b/c i got deadwood to watch</p><p><img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" /></p>

[Lumber]

<strong>IamFogHat</strong> wrote:<br />So...As bad as the season finale was, is anyone else having Sopranos withdrawl? <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; NO.</p>

[Gvac]

<p>Honestly, if it wasn't for the occasional good fight on HBO boxing, I'd probably cancel my subscription.</p><p>I'm totally done with The Sopranos, I find Deadwood unwatchable, and Lucky Louie is an abomination. &nbsp;</p><p>How the mighty have fallen.&nbsp;</p>