NY Mets 2006 Season

[Marc with a c]

<strong>Snoogans</strong> wrote:<br /><p>i know he is 5 pounds heavier then when i said that, everytime he wins he gains more weight.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>and how sad is it, I seriously did not remember posting that&nbsp;</p><p>it's sadder that i remembered.&nbsp; </p><p>you leave such an impression</p>

[J.Clints]

mETS PLAYED A GREAT GAME LAST NIGHT. LETS HOPE THEY KEEP IT UP.

[Grendel_Kahn]

<font size="4" face="times new roman,times,serif">HEY!!&nbsp; That's 25 lbs of new muscle!!&nbsp; To quote Davey Johnson :&nbsp; &quot;We are going to dominate this year.&quot;</font><br />

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Bama</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Die Mets DIE!!!!</p><p>Pedro sucks</p><p>Wright sucks</p><p>Kieth Hernandez sucks</p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; i'll see your mets hatred and raise you my braves hatred with a </p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; chipper and andruw jones sucks</p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; and</p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; dale murphy sucks</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

Great win by the Mets yesterday. I cant remember the last time they went to turner field and won 2 of three. Going for the sweep today. <br />

[BoondockSaint]

<strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br />Great win by the Mets yesterday. I cant remember the last time they went to turner field and won 2 of three. Going for the sweep today. <br /><p>LAst time they won 2 of 3 was in 2003.&nbsp; The last time they swept a 3 game series in Atlanta was 1979.&nbsp; I wan't the sweep, damnit.&nbsp; I sick of the fucking Braves.</p>

[badorties]

<p>&nbsp;</p><p>a sweep in atlanta would be a little validation for the new mets, and 8 games up in first place -- it would be a shame if the mets peaked in june or faded in august ...</p>

[cougarjake13]

<table class="bgBdr" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" width="100%" border="0"><tr class="bgHigh"><td valign="top"><p>&nbsp;</p><p>well this is todays matchup and i dont know much </p><p>about davies to say we have a definite edge but </p><p>trachs been a very reliable guy since becoming a </p><p>met so i am not too worried. i'd also love the </p><p>sweep in the atlanty</p></td><td valign="top" width="115"><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/team?statsId=21">Mets</a> at<br /><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/team?statsId=15">Braves</a> </td><td valign="top" width="110"><strong>NYM</strong>: <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/player?statsId=5172">S Trachsel</a><br />(2-1, 3.13)</td><td valign="top" width="110"><strong>ATL</strong>: <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/player?statsId=7501">K Davies</a><br />(1-2, 4.56</td></tr></table><p>&nbsp;</p>

[WindowSill]

<p>Man...were you off or what?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Looks like John Maine
is gonna take Bannisters place in the rotation till he comes of the
DL...get to see just how awful the Benson trade really was...&nbsp;</p>

[Bama]

<p><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/laugh.gif" border="0" /></p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>WindowSill</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Man...were you off or what? </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>yeh i fucked up i'm not gonna make any more mets predictions</p>

[stickyfingers]

Delgot'em

[Patches]

<p>Umm... so when do we officially panic about Mr. Wagner?&nbsp; If we weren't 18-9 the Post would be calling for his head.</p>

[WindowSill]

19-9 now. I'm not worried. The save he blew in SF was a homer to Bonds
that wasn't even an earned run cuz Wright bobbled a 2 out grounder. On
Wednesday, it was slippery as hell on the mound, everybody was
struggling with their control. The guy still has a 1.80 ERA and 18 Ks
in 15 IP...<br />

[cougarjake13]

i know its still early in the season but i would love a sweep or at least a series win over the bravos this weekend and further distance overselves from the division

[cougarjake13]

nice return for beltran, homer in the first

[AppleBoy]

<p><font face="tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="7">IT'S <strike>HERPES</strike> LIMA TIME!!1!!1!111!!</font></p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>That was a ridiculous win by the Mets. You lose your starter after 4 batters, have to piece the game together with a bullpen that just went 14 innings the night (actually a few hours) before. You had no business winning that game, yet you did. Best record in baseball at 21-9. EVEN FUCKING JORGE JULIO ACTUALLY SAVED A GAME! MAYBE THE MOST UNBELIEVABLE THING THATS HAPPENED ALL YEAR!<br /> </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>You do realize, its all downhill from here. It cant get any better than this, only worse. You're doomed.&nbsp; &nbsp;</p>

[newport king]

<p>i watched baseball tonight, they had a piece on about should the mets trade lastings milledge for barry zito. i'm not sure how i feel about that. i know milledge will probably take floyds place next year and we can also sign zito as a free agent at the end of the year. i saw milledge play a few spring training games and looks like a pretty exciting player. i'd rather bring up pelfrey to replace zambrano.</p><p>by the way how bad was the injury? i missed the beginning of the game yesterday. i'm not gonna say im happy that he's hurt but i certainly wont miss him. (oh and wasn't this an issue when we traded kazmir to get him, something about kazmir motion that will fuck up his arm? fucking leiter and peterson)</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>&nbsp;</p><p><a href="http://www.nypost.com/sports/63411.htm" target="_self" title="Story">Story</a></p><p> <br /><span>Perhaps Mets fans will have more than agita as a
lasting memory of Armando Benitez. As part of the July 2003 trade that
sent Benitez across the Triborough, the Yanks gave the Mets a righty
named Anderson Garcia. In nine relief outings at Double-A, Garcia had a
1.59 ERA, 15 strikeouts in 17 innings and was promoted to Triple-A,
where he had worked 7 2/3 shutout innings. One admiring scout said, &quot;He
has a good arm. He can get it up to 95 mph. He has a real chance to be
a late-inning reliever in the majors.&quot;</span></p><p></p><p>You're welcome. &nbsp;</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p>Perhaps Mets fans will have more than agita as a lasting memory of Armando Benitez. As part of the July 2003 trade that sent Benitez across the Triborough, the Yanks gave the Mets a righty named Anderson Garcia. In nine relief outings at Double-A, Garcia had a 1.59 ERA, 15 strikeouts in 17 innings and was promoted to Triple-A, where he had worked 7 2/3 shutout innings. One admiring scout said, &quot;He has a good arm. He can get it up to 95 mph. He has a real chance to be a late-inning reliever in the majors.&quot; <p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>You're welcome. &nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;until he makes it to the majors and proves to be an adequate major league reliever it means nothing</p>

[cougarjake13]

<p><font size="4">Mets lose Zambrano for season with torn tendon</font> </p><p>is that supposed to be a bad thing ??? personally i'm glad and i hope it's career ending and with the way lima pitched today and that other guy we got from baltimore (maine) also on the dl maybe we should have kept onto benson, oh well who's next on the list to be called up ??? or will heilman got a shot ?</p><p><a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5581312">http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5581312</a></p>

[Bama]

Put the brooms away.

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Bama</strong> wrote:<br />Put the brooms away. <p>you probably could have said that when they announced the starting lineups and you heard the announcer say and pitching for the mets, #17 jose lima. </p><p>i guess we can only do well against smoltz when pedro is pitching. oh well there goes any chance of having only single digit losses</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>Any excuse I get to post this, I will.</p><p><img width="275" height="235" border="0" src="http://images.aroundtheoval.com/images/admin/joselimawife.jpg" />&nbsp;</p><p><img width="112" height="235" border="0" src="http://www.uncoolcentral.com/images/joselima/joselimaswife.gif" />&nbsp;</p>

[newport king]

please don't tell me thats his wife.

[cougarjake13]

<strong>newport king</strong> wrote:<br />please don't tell me thats his wife. <p>to quote kurt angle &quot;it's true, it's damn true&quot; and very unfortunate</p>

[shamus mcfitzy]

<p>man the rotation is falling apart. Luckily we have Kris Ben.....well we have Jae S......</p><p>Good decision to only have 5 guys you're willing to start. Not like you should wisely spend money like the Yankees (although I hate them and they're having some troubles lately with free agents, you still can't deny that they actually have a semblance of knowing what they're doing) and have at least 6 starters ready to pitch.</p><p>Man well I guess the Mets have 7 options now for the last two spots in the rotation: Maine (whose finger's coming off I guess), Bannister (oh god please don't rush him back, its not all that important to get this kid back especially when you rushed him on to the opening day roster), Having Lima Time every 5 days, Jeremi Gonzalez (who possibly was brought in to be more of a 7th&nbsp;starter to start; I know he sat in the Red Sox minor league system for a year or two as kind of an emergency guy), Darren Oliver (he could inspire seniors on AARP night), Aaron Heilman (I put this sixth because I legitly believe that the Mets consider this the 6th of these options despite the fact that he's pretty much the 7th inning guy and has the arm and variance of stuff to start),&nbsp;or make a trade.</p><p>I'll be honest that that 7th option intirgues half of me and petrifies the other half. I know that I'd trade Milledge for Zito right now. I think that if we can get him and extend his contract he could surely be a good enough 2 or 3 pitcher despite any leveling off he's had the last couple years (which&nbsp;I mean is perfectly acceptable for a Cy Young caliber pitcher to do I'm pretty sure). I'd be ready to trade Diaz in fact over Milledge. I heard that we could gotten Affeldt and another young arm from the Royals for just Benson and Diaz. That would been peachy.</p><p>On the other end of the spectrum, the Mets could always pull off a panic deal that nets them an immediate solution&nbsp;guy for a piece of the future. I'm predicting that the Mets will actually trade Heilman and get a starter of some kind, if not directly then they will trade Heilman somewhere and immediately get a starter in another trade. Its just a hunch and it seems like it would be possible in Mets world.</p>

[cougarjake13]

<p>our bullpen isnt so deep that we can afford to trade heilman and its more likely that they'll give him another shot in the rotation before he gets traded. i am too worried about a panic deal, although it may not be considered a panic deal i dont want to see a repeat of the kazmir-zambrano trade.</p><p>i'd trade diaz but i'm not sure he has the same trade value he did last year or in the offseason, has he even played for the mets this season ??</p><p>as for milledge-zito i think i can wait til the offseason and go hard after him and still keep milledge, i know it may be tempting to do it now and potentially have a pedro-glavine-zito pitching in the playoffs but i still think we have to wait</p>

[BoondockSaint]

Beltran just hit another one.&nbsp; He is a completly different player this year.

[BoondockSaint]

Holy shit!&nbsp; First The homeplate umpire over rules the first&nbsp;base umpires call to give the Brewers a home run and now he just threw out Sanchez for hitting a guy IN A TIE GAME!&nbsp;&nbsp;Is it me or does there seem to be terible umping this year?

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by BoondockSaint on 5-13-06 @ 9:54 PM</span>

[Death Metal Moe]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>newport king</strong> wrote:<br />please don't tell me thats his wife. <p>to quote kurt angle &quot;it's true, it's damn true&quot; and very unfortunate</p><p><img height="508" src="http://www.temple.edu/photo/photographers/spring03/photographers/haleydervinis/music1.jpg" width="400" border="0" /></p>

[BoondockSaint]

Fuck 'em.&nbsp; Mets win anyway.&nbsp;

[Bulldogcakes]

<p><a href="http://www.newsday.com/sports/printedition/ny-spflash144741944may14,0,1723595.column?page=2&coll=ny-sports-print" target="_self" title="From Heymans column">From Heymans column</a></p><p>Livan Hernandez might be the most likely to bolster the Mets' rotation.
With his slow start (1-4, 6.52) and high price tag ($13 million through
'07), he could be had for a marginal prospect. Mets GM Omar Minaya
acquired him when he was the Expos' general manager and gave him a
contract extension.&nbsp;</p><p>If I'm Omar, I do that yesterday. I know he's spotty, and is off to a slow start. But he's better than Lima, Bannister, and whoever else they're trying out on the weekly auditions. &nbsp;</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br />Beltran just hit another one.&nbsp; He is a completly different player this year. <p>thats the beauty of carlos delgado, he's taking&nbsp;a lot of pressure off beltran and he seems to be playing more to what we expected when we signed him to that huge contract</p>

[TheSoundAndFury]

now I'm a die hard fan, so don't get me wrong when I say this, but why
is it just our luck that Jose Valentin makes a gorgeous play in right
field only to have Bill Friggin Hall come up and crack one to end the
game like 30 seconds later?<br />

[cougarjake13]

<strong>TheSoundAndFury</strong> wrote:<br />now I'm a die hard fan, so don't get me wrong when I say this, but why is it just our luck that Jose Valentin makes a gorgeous play in right field only to have Bill Friggin Hall come up and crack one to end the game like 30 seconds later?<br /><p>that sucked but i was more pissed off that we had runners on 2nd a 3rd with one out i think and we didnt score anything and then next inning bill fricking hall and whats worst was the brewers announcer calling it right before he hit. i think he said something like wouldnt it be great if bill hall just ends this thing right now with a homer, his mom is in the stands today you know she drove up from mississ... it gone</p><p>fuck him, fuck bill hall, and fuck his mom with a splintered pink baseball bat</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p><a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=klapisch_bob&id=2445920" target="_self" title="From Klapisch's ESPN column ">From Klapisch's ESPN column </a></p><p>The Mets have internally decided that Pelfrey's next jump will be directly to Shea, bypassing Triple-A Norfolk.
</p><p>
The only question is when. Minaya says he's &quot;not afraid to make this
move,&quot; although it remains to be seen just how desperate (or how far
out in front) they'd have to be to thrust a rookie into the spotlight.
</p><p>
Until then, the Mets may forego their hunt for a starting pitching and instead add a reliever, paving the way for <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7065">Aaron Heilman</a>
to return to the rotation. Not only would they unburden themselves of
Lima that way, but it would satisfy Heilman's long-standing request to
become a starter.&nbsp;</p><p>I think the Heilman move is the way to go. Patch together the 7th and 8th with whoever can get an out or two (go righty-lefty) then Sanchez. &nbsp;</p><a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=klapisch_bob&id=2445920" target="_self" title="From Klapisch's ESPN column "></a>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:&nbsp; <p>&nbsp;</p><p>I think the Heilman move is the way to go. Patch together the 7th and 8th with whoever can get an out or two (go righty-lefty) then Sanchez. &nbsp;</p><a title="From Klapisch's ESPN column " href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=klapisch_bob&id=2445920" target="_self"></a><p>what do you think is easier to acquire, a quakity starter or a reliever ???</p><p>its probably way too early to get anyone significant and i'd rather bring up pelfrey or move heilman into the rotation and wait til it gets closer to the trade deadline and see whats available then</p>

[Marc with a c]

rough loss.&nbsp; trachsel looked good against the best team in the national league, good sign.<br />

[cougarjake13]

<strong>evedder</strong> wrote:<br />rough loss.&nbsp; trachsel looked good against the best team in the national league, good sign.<br /><p>yeh it was a good sign but traschel always seems to pitch these gems and lose 1-0 or 2-1</p>

[BoondockSaint]

Well, the rumble is about to begin.&nbsp; Gonzalez vs. Johnson.&nbsp; Looks even to me.&nbsp; Where is Mr. Koo?

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>A Rod was safe. </p><p>BTW-Dont you just love Al Leiter calling the game on the Yankee channel? If you guys have any openings at SNY you can have him. <br />
</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>4-0</p><p>I'd love to rub this in right now, but RJ's been too shaky lately. &nbsp;</p>

[BoondockSaint]

We need Koo.&nbsp; And didn't I hear Willie say that Floyd was going to play tonight?&nbsp; What happened?

[BoondockSaint]

Beltran!

[BoondockSaint]

<strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br /><p>4-0</p><p>I'd love to rub this in right now, but RJ's been too shaky lately. &nbsp;</p><p>Are you Ronaldo?</p>

[BoondockSaint]

X!

[Marc with a c]

<strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br /><p>4-0</p><p>I'd love to rub this in right now, but RJ's been too shaky lately. &nbsp;</p><p>good call sir.</p><p><strong><font size="5">Nadybino</font></strong></p>

[BoondockSaint]

<strong><font size="7">MATKOOI!</font></strong>

[BoondockSaint]

I would like to thank the Yankees for sucking last night.&nbsp; I hope that they suck again today.

[J.Clints]

<strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br />I would like to thank the Yankees for sucking last night.&nbsp; I hope that they suck again today. <p>I would like to second that. Thank you</p>

[stickyfingers]

well, went to the game last night and boy was it great.&nbsp; Drank all day in the city/parking lot/subway.....then was treated to the best game I've seen in person.&nbsp; The fans were great, a couple fights, but overall the yankee fans acted like actual humans and were humbled in the end so they weren't as arrogant as normal.&nbsp; Walking out of the stadium mets fans got a 'Enter Sandman' chant going which I thought was pretty original.

[cougarjake13]

<strong>jclintsma</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br />I would like to thank the Yankees for sucking last night.&nbsp; I hope that they suck again today. <p>I would like to second that. Thank you</p><p>&nbsp; I third it&nbsp; </p><p>and its a great pitching matchup today&nbsp; mussina vs pedro&nbsp;and its on fox so i'll get to see it </p>

[cougarjake13]

<p><font size="6">DELGADO !!!!!</font></p><p><font size="6"><font size="3">once again thanks to the marlins for yet another firesale</font></font></p>

[BoondockSaint]

Joe Buck is the worst baseball announcer ever.&nbsp; Not only does he think he's hysterical when he's not but he just said Pedro is &quot;potentially a Hall of Famer.&quot;&nbsp; Potentially?&nbsp; Where the fuck has this guy been?&nbsp;

[cougarjake13]

<strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br />Joe Buck is the worst baseball announcer ever.&nbsp; Not only does he think he's hysterical when he's not but he just said Pedro is &quot;potentially a Hall of Famer.&quot;&nbsp; Potentially?&nbsp; Where the fuck has this guy been?&nbsp; <p>i hate the whole mcarver-buck team both of them are just fucking annoying and boring and add nothing to the game </p>

[cougarjake13]

<p><font size="5">Floyd !!!! adds another insurance run</font></p><p><font size="5">found this on mets.com</font></p><p><a href="http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20060517&content_id=1457947&vkey=pr_nym&fext=.jsp&c_id=nym">mike_and_maddog_to_call_a_mets_game</a></p><p>that should be an interesting broadcast, how many times are we going to hear mike bring up the yanks and chris with bonds and the giants ?? i'm sure they're going to be real partial </p>

[BoondockSaint]

Good fucking job Billy &quot;Left Handed Looper&quot; Wagner.

[mothershucker]

<strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br />Good fucking job Billy &quot;Left Handed Looper&quot; Wagner. <p>Why did Randolph not let Sanchez finish this game? He had been lights out (except for that one game against the Brewers), he had NOT pitched the night before like Wagner, he had piched two innings with succes many times before this year. Friggin knitters can't manage.</p>

[mdr55]

<font size="7"><strong>Let's Go METS!!!!</strong><br />
</font>

[Bulldogcakes]

I'd love to take credit for the great victory today, but you guys blew
it more than we won it. Wagner cant hold a 4 run lead because he
pitched the night before? Mariano pitched last night, too. And he got
the job done today. I think there's still something going on with his
finger. He was lights out last night, in a much tougher spot, so you
cant say he's gutless. Willie might want to keep from using him back to
back days. <br />

[BoondockSaint]

<strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br />I'd love to take credit for the great victory today, but you guys blew it more than we won it. Wagner cant hold a 4 run lead because he pitched the night before? Mariano pitched last night, too. And he got the job done today. I think there's still something going on with his finger. He was lights out last night, in a much tougher spot, so you cant say he's gutless. Willie might want to keep from using him back to back days. <br /><p>Could be his finger but I don't buy that for now.&nbsp; He just had no control.&nbsp; And Mariano is Mariano so I don't like to compare.&nbsp; Just one of those days, I hope.&nbsp; Another ND for Pedro.&nbsp; He should be atleast 7-0 and looking like a Cy Young candidate.</p>

[HBox]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br />I'd love to take credit for the great victory today, but you guys blew it more than we won it. Wagner cant hold a 4 run lead because he pitched the night before? Mariano pitched last night, too. And he got the job done today. I think there's still something going on with his finger. He was lights out last night, in a much tougher spot, so you cant say he's gutless. Willie might want to keep from using him back to back days. <br /><p>Could be his finger but I don't buy that for now. He just had no control. And Mariano is Mariano so I don't like to compare. Just one of those days, I hope. Another ND for Pedro. He should be atleast 7-0 and looking like a Cy Young candidate.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I don't know how many times Pedro has put together an incredible start against the Yanks only to have the bullpen blow it, but its a lot. He just has terrible luck against the Yanks.<br /></p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>HBox</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br />I'd love to take credit for the great victory today, but you guys blew it more than we won it. Wagner cant hold a 4 run lead because he pitched the night before? Mariano pitched last night, too. And he got the job done today. I think there's still something going on with his finger. He was lights out last night, in a much tougher spot, so you cant say he's gutless. Willie might want to keep from using him back to back days. <br /><p>Could be his finger but I don't buy that for now. He just had no control. And Mariano is Mariano so I don't like to compare. Just one of those days, I hope. Another ND for Pedro. He should be atleast 7-0 and looking like a Cy Young candidate.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font color="#000080"><font size="2">I don't know how many times Pedro has put together an incredible start against the Yanks only to have the bullpen blow it, but its a lot. He just has terrible luck against the Yanks.</font></font><br /></p><p>its not his luck because as stated he has incredible games against the yanks, its the stupid fucking managing that bites him in the ass after he leaves the game.</p><p>oh well if you really look at it the yanks should have won on fri but found a way to lose, same for the mets on saturday, so it's all even and tonight is for bragging rights</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>HBox</strong> wrote:<p> </p><p> </p><p><font color="Navy"><font size="2">I
don't know how many times Pedro has put together an incredible start
against the Yanks only to have the bullpen blow it, but its a lot. He
just has terrible luck against the Yanks.</font></font><br /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;<img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40627000/jpg/_40627575_pedromartinez203.jpg" border="0" /></p><p>What can I say? The Yankees are my Daddy&quot;&nbsp;</p><blockquote /><p>&nbsp;</p>

[MikeyTags]

Fuck bragging rights,&nbsp;the&nbsp;Mets&nbsp;have to worry about Philly and Atlanta,&nbsp;interleague play means nothing and it's stupid get rid of it already.

[cougarjake13]

true its not as important as a series against philly or atlanta but a win is still a win and we need to win games that your up four runs in the 9th but wags shouldnt have been in there, at least let sanchez start the inning and if he gets into trouble then maybe bring in wags

[cougarjake13]

<p><font color="#0000ff" size="6">delgado does it again</font></p><p><font color="#0000ff" size="6">and yes back to back jacks, david wright !!!!!!!!!</font></p><p><font color="#0000ff" size="6">lets go mets </font></p>

[BoondockSaint]

Holy shit did Wright crush that one.

[cougarjake13]

<strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br />Holy shit did Wright crush that one. <p>every day i am so glad we didnt fuck up and trade him away like we did with scott kazmir, who by the way won his 7th game of the year today, the earliest ever in the season for a 22 yr old to do so</p><p>well at least we got victor zambrano, yeh that worked out </p>

[MikeyTags]

God I love watching A-Rod fucking choking.&nbsp; He totally ruined the momentum of that inning. Thank You A-Rod For Being The Choke Artist That You Are.

[BoondockSaint]

A-Rod has helped the Mets win more games as a Yankee then he would have if he was a Met.

[cougarjake13]

<strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br />A-Rod has helped the Mets win more games as a Yankee then he would have if he was a Met. <p>and although i was pissed at the time we didnt get him i'm glad thats another trade we didnt make because it suppossedly started with reyes being a part of any deal</p>

[Patches]

This is turning into an instant classic... bottom 14, Cliff almost won it- died on the track... i thought the announcers were going to cry.

[Marc with a c]

<p>i'm hanging in with you man.&nbsp; that reyes double play was huge. </p><p>top 15</p>

[Marc with a c]

ryan madson has thrown over 100 pitches in relief. heading to the 16th. zoinks

[Marc with a c]

thank you mr. beltran.&nbsp; night night.

[newport king]

im fucking exhausted

[Patches]

That was a great game and a great win... unfortunately the pen is shot with the back end of the rotation coming up, but a great win none the less.

[BoondockSaint]

Just heard on Mike and the Mad Dog that the Mets traded Jorge Julio for El Duque.&nbsp; I like it.&nbsp; If Duque pitchs well, great.&nbsp; If he doesn't, so what.

[cougarjake13]

<strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br />Just heard on Mike and the Mad Dog that the Mets traded Jorge Julio for El Duque.&nbsp; I like it.&nbsp; If Duque pitchs well, great.&nbsp; If he doesn't, so what. <p>yeh just saw it on espn and we already know he can handle ny well at least the benson trade got us something</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>Oh no. One of my all time favorite Yankees. I might have to become a Mets fan every 5 days. <br /></p><p>A few things about El Duque. He's not 36, as it says on his baseball card. He's probably more like 40ish. But it doesn't matter, he has a TON of baseball savvy. Throws his pitches from different arm angles, and has the guts of a burgler. No fear whatsoever. Sort of like Pedro, but with different stuff. Also dont be worried about him walking guys, he knows his limitations and picks his spots with who he wants to pitch to. He'll also let up alot of HR's, but if he's on top of his game they'll be with no one on base. He's also had a sub par season last year and in the start of this year. He hasn't been good since leaving the Yanks, but I think he'll be good in Shea and with the Met run support. Also, he'll be more happy in the Met clubhouse, and he loved being in NY. So I think you'll get the best he has to offer at this point. And a MONEY pitcher in the post season. Great deal by Omar.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 5-24-06 @ 7:47 PM</span>

[BoondockSaint]

Soler's looked pretty good after the first.&nbsp; And I think this Wright kid may turn out to be decent.

[stickyfingers]

<p>Soler recovered great....look out fantasy baseball teams.</p><p>I like the El Duque trade, but this shows they will bring anyone to&nbsp;start other than Heilman</p>

[newport king]

heilman is too important to our pen. so basically we traded benson for el duque.....i dont like it.

[Marc with a c]

<p>heilman needs to stay where he is.&nbsp; i don't mind bringing in hernandez, but i would still rather beson and kazmir.</p><p>i think it is a decent move, brings some leadership as well it should help soler as well.</p><p>nice win, nice and early.</p>

[newport king]

lets get our brooms out for today.

[newport king]

jeremi gonzalez can eat a dick. bring up pelfrey now.

[cougarjake13]

<strong>newport king</strong> wrote:<br />lets get our brooms out for today. <p>you jinxed it, mets lost 5-3 still a series victory though</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>mets made another deal for a pitcher trading minor league P robert manuel to the reds for dave williams and cash</p>

[BoondockSaint]

<strong>newport king</strong> wrote:<br />jeremi gonzalez can eat a dick. bring up pelfrey now. <p>Pelfrey still needs work.&nbsp; He's having trouble in AA.</p>

[newport king]

whats with all the moves omar? i guess we'll see who works out and thats who stays....i'd like to trade trachsel if we can.

[cougarjake13]

<strong>newport king</strong> wrote:<br />whats with all the moves omar? i guess we'll see who works out and thats who stays....i'd like to trade trachsel if we can. <p>just as long as he isnt making moves like isiah</p><p>who would we get for trachsel ??? would it even be an upgrade ???</p>

[Don Stugots]

<hr color="cococo" align="left"></font><strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br><p>Oh no. One of my all time favorite Yankees. I might have to become a Mets fan every 5 days. <br /></p><p>A few things about El Duque. He's not 36, as it says on his baseball card. He's probably more like 40ish. But it doesn't matter, he has a TON of baseball savvy. Throws his pitches from different arm angles, and has the guts of a burgler. No fear whatsoever. Sort of like Pedro, but with different stuff. Also dont be worried about him walking guys, he knows his limitations and picks his spots with who he wants to pitch to. He'll also let up alot of HR's, but if he's on top of his game they'll be with no one on base. He's also had a sub par season last year and in the start of this year. He hasn't been good since leaving the Yanks, but I think he'll be good in Shea and with the Met run support. Also, he'll be more happy in the Met clubhouse, and he loved being in NY. So I think you'll get the best he has to offer at this point. And a MONEY pitcher in the post season. Great deal by Omar.</p><p> </p><p> </p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 5-24-06 @ 7:47 PM</span><hr color="cococo" align="left"><p></p>

i wasd shocked to see that my second fav Yankee of all time is now a met. i will be watching when he pitches, and rooting for them to win. i know i have said it before, but he is like magic on the mound. BDC said it best, that he has the guts of a burglar. i hate myself. good move for the Mets. How many times will he have to hear the question "how old is he really?"

[cougarjake13]

<strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br /><blockquote /><p>&nbsp;</p>i wasd shocked to see that my second fav Yankee of all time is now a met. i will be watching when he pitches, and rooting for them to win. i know i have said it before, but he is like magic on the mound. BDC said it best, that he has the guts of a burglar. i hate myself. good move for the Mets. How many times will he have to hear the question &quot;how old is he really?&quot; <p>who knows he could probably be in his 40's but if he can be&nbsp; a solid 4th or 5th guy i dont give a shit how old he is</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<h1><p><a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2460561" target="_self" title="Pedro might retire when Mets contract expires">Pedro might retire when Mets contract expires</a></p><p></p></h1><p>
&quot;I'll most likely retire after this contract, but it'll depend on how
I'm feeling at the time, and if I'm feeling then like I am now, my
Dominican fans and my family wouldn't forgive me if I don't retire.&quot;
</p><p>
Friday, Martinez (5-1, 2.79) allowed two runs in seven innings and struck out 10 <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=fla">Florida Marlins</a>,
but lost for the first time this season 5-1. It was his first loss
since Sept. 22, when he allowed a run and lost to the Marlins.
</p><p>Martinez, who leads the National League with 80 strikeouts,
revealed that he is not completely recovered from an injury to the big
toe on his right foot, which kept him from playing for his country in
the World Baseball Classic and limited his spring training practice.
</p><p>&quot;After every game, my foot swells and I have to go through an
intense process of massages and treatment for four days to prevent the
swelling,&quot; he said. The only day I don't work my foot is the day before
the game.&quot;
</p><p>Martinez, who wears a shoe specially designed by Nike to keep
the injury from getting worse, will make his next start Wednesday
against Arizona in New York.
</p><h1><p>&nbsp;</p></h1>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>I actually watched the Mets over my beloved Yankees while El Duque was pitching. He looked good. His fastball was topping out at 93, which surprised me. He usually didn't throw that hard 2 years ago as a Yank. He's still suceptable to the long ball, but he always was. I was surprised he walked the righty in front of the lefty who hit the HR. He usually likes to go after righty's, who he's much more effective against. But he should stabilize your rotation from here on out. <br /></p><p>But the Marlins aren't a big hitting team, so I'll want to see more before I say he's the same guy who helped the Yanks win 3 of the 4 WS rings.&nbsp; &nbsp;</p>

[Marc with a c]

<p>lastings is here.</p><p><a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2463336">http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2463336</a></p>

[BoondockSaint]

What's everyone thought of Milledege so far?&nbsp; He's looked a little overmatched at the plate and he dropped that liner but damn that was a great throw to third.

[cougarjake13]

<p>can't say that i'm happy with a split but if we at least win the rubber game and win yet another series we'll be fine, we have a 5 1/2 game lead over the phils and 6 games over the braves thanks to the d backs sweep of the double header yesterday</p><p>we got 3 against the dodgers and then 4 against the d backs hopefully we can get at least 5-2 in that stretch before we see the phillies for 3 </p><p><img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" /></p>

[Marc with a c]

david wright is so money<br />

[margin]

<strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br />What's everyone thought of Milledege so far?&nbsp; <p>Not a fan</p>

[TheSoundAndFury]

<p>I can't imagine why.,</p><p>I think he's a good player, who's
finally starting to see the ball better at the plate, I know Matt
Morris is struggling, but he's still a good pitcher, and that was a
nice piece of hitting on that double, and Benetiz is still considered a
major league level closer so you can't really take anything away from
that homer either. He still needs work, and he still needs to realize
this isn't triple A before guys start beaning him left and right. I
will say that I miss Xavier Nady though, and hope he gets back in the
lineup ASAP.&nbsp;</p>

[cougarjake13]

<p>just as long as he doesnt turn into alex escobar i'll be happy</p><p><img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" /></p>

[hammersavage]

Lastings in here to stay, folks...<br />

[spoon]

His homeruns are the anti-Arod!

[Marc with a c]

el duque just had a 13 pitch at bat.&nbsp; very important update mets up 5-0.<br />

[newport king]

<p>goodbye kaz....i thanks for embarassing yourself in every game you ever played in for us, aside from every opening day.</p><p>i'm sure in colorado you will become an allstar and stop trying to run down the 1st baseline when your bat hasn't even entered the strike zone.</p>

[Clutch]

Don't forget.... he'll be doing it all in AAA !!!!!&nbsp;&nbsp; Good riddens<br />

[Patches]

<p>Kaz- we hardly knew ya... </p><p>C-YA!!!!</p>

[TheSoundAndFury]

i thank kaz for raising his trade value JUST ENOUGH this year, to
actually get something for him, otherwise I'd have to see him waste a
roster spot.<br />

[cougarjake13]

<p>i'm just suprised that anyone even wanted him, let alone trade a major leaguer for him, not that eli marrero is the second coming of mike piazza, but i'd figured we would have either have had to get draft picks or some minor league bums that probably would never make any impact on the big club, marrero is a good guy to have on your bench, plays a few positions, and has played in some playoffs with st louis and atlanta</p><p><img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" /></p>

[cougarjake13]

<p>well at least the mets cant blow this one for pedro, up 13-2 in the 7th</p><p>beltran and delgado are just tearing them up</p><p><table class="bgBdr" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" width="100%" border="0"><tr class="bgHdr3" align="center"><td align="left">Name</td><td>AB</td><td>R</td><td>H</td><td>RBI</td><td>BB</td></tr><tr class="bgDueUp" align="center"><td align="left">&nbsp;</td><td>&nbsp;</td><td>&nbsp;</td><td>&nbsp;</td><td>&nbsp;</td><td>&nbsp;</td></tr><tr class="bgDueUp" align="center"><td align="left">&nbsp;</td><td>&nbsp;</td><td>&nbsp;</td><td>&nbsp;</td><td>&nbsp;</td><td>&nbsp;</td></tr><tr class="bgC" align="center"><td align="left">3. <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/player?statsId=6132">C Beltran</a>, CF</td><td>4</td><td>3</td><td>2</td><td>4</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="bgC" align="center"><td align="left"></td><td>&nbsp;</td><td>&nbsp;</td><td>&nbsp;</td><td>&nbsp;</td><td>&nbsp;</td></tr><tr class="bgC" align="center"><td align="left">4. <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/player?statsId=5178">C Delgado</a>, 1B</td><td>4</td><td>2</td><td>3</td><td>3</td><td>1</td></tr></table></p><p><img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" /></p>

[hammersavage]

I will never declare the Braves dead, but if i did, I'd do it now.&nbsp; And up 7.5 games on the Phags.&nbsp; Good times...<br />

[Patches]

<strong>hammersavage</strong> wrote:<br />I will never declare the Braves dead, but if i did, I'd do it now.&nbsp; And up 7.5 games on the Phags.&nbsp; Good times...<br /><p>I hear ya... But its tough to not start getting a bit giddy.... Must... Contain... .Only... June..</p><p>But I'm loving what I am seeing.</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Patches</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>hammersavage</strong> wrote:<br />I will never declare the Braves dead, but if i did, I'd do it now.&nbsp; And up 7.5 games on the Phags.&nbsp; Good times...<br /><p>I hear ya... But its tough to not start getting a bit giddy.... Must... Contain... .Only... June..</p><p>But I'm loving what I am seeing.</p><p>it's tough not to be happy especially after 14 years of braves dominance but unless serious injuries occur i cant see the braves making up the ground</p><p><img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" /></p>

[BoondockSaint]

It's almost embarrising how much ass the Mets a kicking.&nbsp; It seems like everything is going right for them.

[hammersavage]

Or now....and almost too much is going right...<br />

[Patches]

Looks like, yet AGAIN, the Mets won't be playing meaningful games in September!

[BoondockSaint]

<p>Can we set up a Paypal account so we can pay Pat Burrell not to play against the Mets?&nbsp; I'm in for $20.&nbsp; That motherfucker has hit another 2 homers today!&nbsp; I HATE HIM!</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Can we set up a Paypal account so we can pay Pat Burrell not to play against the Mets?&nbsp; I'm in for $20.&nbsp; That motherfucker has hit another 2 homers today!&nbsp; I HATE HIM!</p><p>who cares mets win again, eight in a row</p><p><img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" /></p>

[BoondockSaint]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Can we set up a Paypal account so we can pay Pat Burrell not to play against the Mets?&nbsp; I'm in for $20.&nbsp; That motherfucker has hit another 2 homers today!&nbsp; I HATE HIM!</p><p>who cares mets win again, eight in a row</p><p><img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" /></p><p>I know but he still annoys me.&nbsp; And we are wearing out this broom.</p>

[Patches]

I am a little young to REALLY remember 1986, and 1988 is a bit fuzzy, but this is the best I have ever seen this team play.

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Patches</strong> wrote:<br />I am a little young to REALLY remember 1986, and 1988 is a bit fuzzy, but this is the best I have ever seen this team play. <p>what were you doing in 2000 ???</p><p><img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" /></p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Can we set up a Paypal account so we can pay Pat Burrell not to play against the Mets?&nbsp; I'm in for $20.&nbsp; That motherfucker has hit another 2 homers today!&nbsp; I HATE HIM!</p><p>who cares mets win again, eight in a row</p><p>I know but he still annoys me.&nbsp; And we are wearing out this broom.</p><p>i hate that fucker too, but it's a little easier to deal with him when were winning games and 9 1/2 games up on them, in the past he usually killed us, we lost the game and were nowhere near 1st</p>

[BoondockSaint]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Patches</strong> wrote:<br />I am a little young to REALLY remember 1986, and 1988 is a bit fuzzy, but this is the best I have ever seen this team play. <p>what were you doing in 2000 ???</p><p><img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" /></p><p>That team never played like this.</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Patches</strong> wrote:<br />I am a little young to REALLY remember 1986, and 1988 is a bit fuzzy, but this is the best I have ever seen this team play. <p>what were you doing in 2000 ???</p><p><img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" /></p><p>That team never played like this.</p><p>no they didnt play like this, but they played very well and made it to the world series </p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>&nbsp;<a title="From Joel Shermans NY Post article " target="_self" href="http://www.nypost.com/sports/deal_or_no_deal__sports_joel_sherman.htm">From Joel Shermans NY Post article</a></p><p>Mets GM Omar Minaya has confided to
friends that he thinks he can get a top starter, though he found the
initial price for Zito (Lastings Milledge, Aaron Heilman) unappetizing.
The Mets feel they have an advantage in locking up Zito long-term
because of his strong relationship dating back to Oakland with Mets
pitching coach Rick Peterson.&nbsp;</p><p>If they can get him, book your WS tickets now. That asking price is ridiculous, but if you go to or win a world series, Minaya might do it. Flip side is, who going to set up and play the outfield?&nbsp; My guess is it&nbsp; doesn't happen.<br /></p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;<a title="From Joel Shermans NY Post article " href="http://www.nypost.com/sports/deal_or_no_deal__sports_joel_sherman.htm" target="_self">From Joel Shermans NY Post article</a></p><p>&nbsp;</p>Mets GM Omar Minaya has confided to friends that he thinks he can get a top starter, though he found the initial price for Zito (Lastings Milledge, Aaron Heilman) unappetizing. The Mets feel they have an advantage in locking up Zito long-term because of his strong relationship dating back to Oakland with Mets pitching coach Rick Peterson. &nbsp; <p>&nbsp;</p><p>If they can get him, book your WS tickets now. That asking price is ridiculous, but if you go to or win a world series, Minaya might do it. Flip side is, who going to set up and play the outfield?&nbsp; My guess is it&nbsp; doesn't happen.<br /></p><p>well as for set up heilman been horrible lately and i wouldnt miss him and milledge is only playing b/c nady got hurt so when nady comes back he will most likely get his position back and milledge is on the bench or back to the minors</p><p>i still think we can get him in the offseason and i wouldnt want to lose milledge but its tempting b/c having pedro,glavine,zito as our top 3 in the postseason would be awesome</p><p><img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" /></p>

[hammersavage]

For the next three days...<font size="5">FUCK SPOON!!!</font><br />

[MHasegawa]

As an A's fan I want ownership of the mets if they get Zito.<br />

[cougarjake13]

<p>sorry spoon, although we may be allies in the hatred of yankeedumb you are now the enemy</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>mets are already up 4-0 in the 3rd courstesy of the man below</p><p><img height="200" src="http://www.prosportspictures.com/images/mlb/new-york-mets/2005/05-david-wright-action-4-sm.jpg" width="160" border="0" /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" /></p>

[cougarjake13]

<p>finally the mets get ahead of the sawx luckily we have such a big divison lead and these 2 losses wont hurt that much</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><img height="200" src="http://www.prosportspictures.com/images/mlb/new-york-mets/2005/05-carlos-beltran-action-6-sm.jpg" width="160" border="0" /></p>

[FezPaul]

<p><strong><font size="5">DIIIIINNNNGG!!!!</font></strong></p><p><strong><font face="courier new,courier,monospace" size="2">Big Papi goes deep!</font></strong></p><p><strong><font face="Courier New" size="2">Oh wait, is this the Red Sox Thread?&nbsp; <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/tongue.gif" border="0" /></font></strong></p>

[Fallon]

<img width="153" height="173" border="0" src="http://www.seasite.niu.edu/thaidict/thailex1/picture/sweep.jpg" />

[BoondockSaint]

A nice win today but they really need to get their asses in gear.

[docgoblin]

They are absolutely gonna have to get a starter before the deadline, or they aren't going anywhere in the post season. Can we all now admit that the Kasmir deal was possible the worst in the team's history? I don't see Minaya ever making that deal.<br />

[cougarjake13]

fucking pedro going on the 15 day DL, at least some of it's during the all star break

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>Any excuse I get to post this, I will.</p><p><img width="275" height="235" border="0" src="http://images.aroundtheoval.com/images/admin/joselimawife.jpg" />&nbsp;</p><p><img width="112" height="235" border="0" src="http://www.uncoolcentral.com/images/joselima/joselimaswife.gif" />&nbsp;</p> <p>
<br /></p>

[cougarjake13]

<p>unfortunately he got demoted after the game</p><p>pelfrey makes his major league debut today in the 2nd game of a double header, hope to see some good stuff from him</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>Nice run support for Pelfrey's debut. If they can just keep scoring 16 runs for him everytime he pitches, he should win a few games. </p><p>BTW-He was having trouble locating his fastball, and lacks a big league curve. Maybe it was opening night jitters, but he'll need to do better next time out or the league will catch up with him fast. But congrats on a good debut and best luck going foward. THe Mets will surely be needing him. &nbsp;</p>

[newport king]

<p>unfortunately he got demoted after the game</p><p></p><p>fuck dat piece of chit. the only mets uniform i want to see him wearing again better have binghamton written somewhere on it.</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>I'm not posting this to rub it in, because I know its a sore subject for Met Fans. But HOLEY SHIT Kazmir is fucking good! He wasn't nearly as good last year when he pitched against the Yanks. But he has poise, command and the best stuff I've seen come up since Roy Oswalt. THe Yanks scored one unearned run in the 6th, and then two in the 7th when he appeared to tire a bit (which is the Yankee game plan against tough pitchers) But for the first 6 innings he blew the Yanks away and had them baffled. His slider is the best I've seen since Guidry or Randy Johnson in his hay day (not now). </p><p>I guess the only good news is he's young and will be a free agent in another 5 years, when he's 27&nbsp;</p>

[docgoblin]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I'm not posting this to rub it in, because I know its a sore subject for Met Fans. But HOLEY SHIT Kazmir is fucking good! <br /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong>You're right. It was possibly the worst trade the team ever made (As bad as Ryan, worse than Seaver). Minaya would never have let that guy go. The only solice is that these other young guys, Pelfrey and Henry Owens appear to have a future. Pelfrey was a bit shakey in his debut, but he got the job done. Owens has looked pretty good in his two appearances. And don't forget Brian Bannister. He was terrific in the spring and started off well before he got hurt. He should be back in late July hopefully. They've done a good job filling for Pedro's injury and the huge question mark at the end of the rotation. With a 12 game lead they can be very cautious with Pedro. Its a good luxury to have, because I don't think he has the stamina to make 30-35 starts and be effective in October.</strong> <br /></p>

[Clutch]

Let's just hope when Kazmir's contract is up, he wants top dollar and Minaya swoops in and gives him what he wants.... I'd feel much better if this happened .... <br />

[BoondockSaint]

<strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><p>BTW-He was having trouble locating his fastball, and lacks a big league curve. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Some he had some control issues but that's understandable.&nbsp; He hasn't had them in the minors.&nbsp; And he doesn't throw a curveball, he throws a slider.</p>

[BoondockSaint]

MVP!MVP!MVP!

[Davios]

<strong>docgoblin</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I'm not posting this to rub it in, because I know its a sore subject for Met Fans. But HOLEY SHIT Kazmir is fucking good! <br /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong>You're right. It was possibly the worst trade the team ever made (As bad as Ryan, worse than Seaver). Minaya would never have let that guy go. The only solice is that these other young guys, Pelfrey and Henry Owens appear to have a future. Pelfrey was a bit shakey in his debut, but he got the job done. Owens has looked pretty good in his two appearances. And don't forget Brian Bannister. He was terrific in the spring and started off well before he got hurt. He should be back in late July hopefully. They've done a good job filling for Pedro's injury and the huge question mark at the end of the rotation. With a 12 game lead they can be very cautious with Pedro. Its a good luxury to have, because I don't think he has the stamina to make 30-35 starts and be effective in October.</strong> <br /></p><p>Henry Owens is no kid. He is actually 27. He has also been in the minors for over 5 years now. His minor league numbers have been good excluding last season, but he has been in the minors long enough you wouldn't necessary qualify him as a young kid.</p>

[docgoblin]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>Davios</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>docgoblin</strong> wrote:<br /><p> </p><strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I'm not posting this to rub it in, because I know its a sore subject for Met Fans. But HOLEY SHIT Kazmir is fucking good! <br /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>You're right. It was possibly the worst trade the team ever made (As bad as Ryan, worse than Seaver). Minaya would never have let that guy go. The only solice is that these other young guys, Pelfrey and Henry Owens appear to have a future. Pelfrey was a bit shakey in his debut, but he got the job done. Owens has looked pretty good in his two appearances. And don't forget Brian Bannister. He was terrific in the spring and started off well before he got hurt. He should be back in late July hopefully. They've done a good job filling for Pedro's injury and the huge question mark at the end of the rotation. With a 12 game lead they can be very cautious with Pedro. Its a good luxury to have, because I don't think he has the stamina to make 30-35 starts and be effective in October.</strong> <br /></p><p>Henry Owens is no kid. He is actually 27. He has also been in the minors for over 5 years now. His minor league numbers have been good excluding last season, but he has been in the minors long enough you wouldn't necessary qualify him as a young kid.</p>&nbsp;<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong>To me 27 is a kid... However, Julio Franco could almost be my Dad!</strong><br /></p>

[TheSoundAndFury]

<p>I'm pretty sure Julio Franco IS my dad.</p><p>I wasn't ridiculously
impressed with Pelfrey, but I wasn't expecting to be, it was his first
start in the bigs against a team that's swinging the bats pretty well
lately. I was also pretty happy with John Maine's start again, yeah he
picked up the loss, but I think this kid has good enough stuff to
definitely earn himself a spot on this staff in the years to come.&nbsp;</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>Davios</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>docgoblin</strong> wrote:<br /><p> </p><strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I'm not posting this to rub it in, because I know its a sore subject for Met Fans. But HOLEY SHIT Kazmir is fucking good! <br /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>You're right. It was possibly the worst trade the team ever made (As bad as Ryan, worse than Seaver). Minaya would never have let that guy go. The only solice is that these other young guys, Pelfrey and Henry Owens appear to have a future. Pelfrey was a bit shakey in his debut, but he got the job done. Owens has looked pretty good in his two appearances. And don't forget Brian Bannister. He was terrific in the spring and started off well before he got hurt. He should be back in late July hopefully. They've done a good job filling for Pedro's injury and the huge question mark at the end of the rotation. With a 12 game lead they can be very cautious with Pedro. Its a good luxury to have, because I don't think he has the stamina to make 30-35 starts and be effective in October.</strong> <br /></p><p>Henry Owens is no kid. He is actually 27. He has also been in the minors for over 5 years now. His minor league numbers have been good excluding last season, but he has been in the minors long enough you wouldn't necessary qualify him as a young kid.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Sort of. He was a catcher who converted to become a pitcher (WOW That sounds gay) So while he is 27, its not like he's some career minor leaguer who was never good enough for the bigs. Maybe he wouldn't have made it as a catcher, but as a pitcher he's been there a relatively short time. <br /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><blockquote /><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br /><p> </p><p>BTW-He was having trouble locating his fastball, and lacks a big league curve. </p><p> </p><p>Some he had some control issues but that's understandable. He hasn't had them in the minors. And he doesn't throw a curveball, he throws a slider.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I was just repeating what a former coach of his said on the FAN. Maybe he uses the word &quot;curve&quot; to mean breaking pitch, or I just didn't remember it correctly. <br /></p><p>Another thing about everyone talking about the &quot;Opening night jitters&quot;. Sure thats understandable, but the Mets are a playoff team this year. If he gets nervous in big spots, I'd remember that come playoff time. I'm sure Willie will. <br /></p><blockquote /><p>&nbsp;</p>

[BoondockSaint]

Tonight at 7 SNY is replaying the Mets vs the Braves from 9/21/01.&nbsp; It was the first game back in NY after 9/11.&nbsp; I can remember exactly where I was sitting when Piazza hit that HR.&nbsp; And it was the first time in 10 days that I enjoyed myself.&nbsp; I can't wait to see it again.

[docgoblin]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br />Tonight at 7 SNY is replaying the Mets vs the Braves from 9/21/01. It was the first game back in NY after 9/11. I can remember exactly where I was sitting when Piazza hit that HR. And it was the first time in 10 days that I enjoyed myself. I can't wait to see it again.<p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong>I remember this game like it was yesterday. When he hit that homer, I really think it lifted the entire city up a bit.&nbsp;</strong> <br /></p>

[Don Stugots]

<strong>docgoblin</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br />Tonight at 7 SNY is replaying the Mets vs the Braves from 9/21/01. It was the first game back in NY after 9/11. I can remember exactly where I was sitting when Piazza hit that HR. And it was the first time in 10 days that I enjoyed myself. I can't wait to see it again. <p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong>I remember this game like it was yesterday. When he hit that homer, I really think it lifted the entire city up a bit.&nbsp;</strong> <br /></p><p>i'm a yankee fan and i remember my eyes tearing up when he hit that ball.</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br />Tonight at 7 SNY is replaying the Mets vs the Braves from 9/21/01.&nbsp; It was the first game back in NY after 9/11.&nbsp; I can remember exactly where I was sitting when Piazza hit that HR.&nbsp; And it was the first time in 10 days that I enjoyed myself.&nbsp; I can't wait to see it again. <p>that homer for me ranks up there as one of the greatest moments in mets history... i seriously went nuts as if they just won the world series</p>

[BoondockSaint]

I watched the whole game (even though it pissed me off how they cut it up) and I really didn't feel all that emotional about it.&nbsp; Even when the bottom of the eigth started.&nbsp; But when Piazza hit that homer I got chills down my spine again.&nbsp; Amazing.

[BoondockSaint]

I saw that the Mets signed Edagardo Alfonso to a minor league deal.&nbsp; Not a big signing but if he has <em>anything</em> left and can make the big club he will be another guy who can be a great influence on the young guys.&nbsp; I hope it works out Because I was always a fan of Fonsie.

[Marc with a c]

<p>i love edgardo.&nbsp; i would love to see him get a call up in september.&nbsp; the mets should have it wrapped up most of the month, and just to see him back making some plays would be awesome.</p><p>still remember his 6-6 game.</p>

[Grendel_Kahn]

Don't be surprised to see Edgardo as a &quot;coach&quot;.&nbsp; Kinda like Rickey Henderson. <br />

[BoondockSaint]

<strong>Grendel_Kahn</strong> wrote:<br />Don't be surprised to see Edgardo as a &quot;coach&quot;.&nbsp; Kinda like Rickey Henderson. <br /><p>Once he retires I can see him being a full time coach.&nbsp; Is his brother still a coach in the Mets System?</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Grendel_Kahn</strong> wrote:<br />Don't be surprised to see Edgardo as a &quot;coach&quot;.&nbsp; Kinda like Rickey Henderson. <br /><p>Once he retires I can see him being a full time coach.&nbsp; Is his brother still a coach in the Mets System?</p><p>doesnt look like it but maybe he just isnt managing anymore but is still a coach</p><p>john stearns - norfolf tides triple a</p><p>juan samuel - binghampton mets double a</p><p>gary carter - st lucie mets single a</p><p>tim tuefel - brooklyn cyclones single a</p>

[spoon]

<p>Holy fuck!&nbsp; Two Grand Slams and a two run HR in the same inning!!!</p><p>Cubbbieeeeeeeeeeesssssssss!</p>

[Marc with a c]

<p>thats was crazy.&nbsp; 11 runs.</p><p>mojo suicide watch. who wants the overnight shift?</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>Biggest inning in Met history. </p><p>Down 5-0, looks bad. But this team is never out of a game. &nbsp;</p>

[BoondockSaint]

Floyd is starting to hit over the last few weeks and now maybe Delgado will come around.&nbsp; But that inning should have been over a couple of times if the Cubs played any defense.

[FezPaul]

<p><strong>The game is running long and bumping the bullshit ESPYS.</strong></p><p><strong>Now all the douch-bags are weeping into their (some type of drink a douche-bag drinks).</strong></p>

[Tenbatsuzen]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>FezPaul</strong> wrote:<br /><p><strong>The game is running long and bumping the bullshit ESPYS.</strong></p><p><strong>Now all the douch-bags are weeping into their (some type of drink a douche-bag drinks).</strong></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>ESPYs were taped three nights ago.&nbsp; Doesn't make a difference.&nbsp; The only real thing getting bumped is Sports Center.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[BoondockSaint]

<p>Another decent start for Pelfrey.&nbsp; Not great but better then the first.&nbsp; He needs to stop going 3-2 on so many guys.&nbsp; It looked like he ran out of gas in the 6th.&nbsp; But 6 innings 2 runs?&nbsp; I'll take it.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>And I think Carlos Beltran is just Grand.&nbsp; He crushed that fucker.</p>

[newport king]

hey i was wondering if someone can help me out. my wife bought me mets tix for my berfday&nbsp; (which is today bitches) and these tix have diamon club passes. any of you guys been to this &quot;diamond club&quot; what is it exactly and so on and so forth. any info would be great.

[Don Stugots]

<strong>newport king</strong> wrote:<br />hey i was wondering if someone can help me out. my wife bought me mets tix for my berfday&nbsp; (which is today bitches) and these tix have diamon club passes. any of you guys been to this &quot;diamond club&quot; what is it exactly and so on and so forth. any info would be great. <p>happy birthday mo fo!!!&nbsp; the diamond club is a nice place to eat and drink and watch the game while at the stadium.&nbsp; enjoy.&nbsp; </p>

[cougarjake13]

<p>maine pitched effective tonight and got his first win but i think we still need to make some kind of deal for a proven pitcher </p>

[docgoblin]

While I agree they should get a pitcher, if they can do so without giving up too much, you gotta give it to the kid. He wasn't even scheduled to pitch, and the Astros are no chump team offensively. To pull off a complete game shutout is pretty impressive.<br />

[terryc35]

very impressive outing although I think Omar needs to sure up that rotation in the next ten days.&nbsp; A livan Hernandez won't tale too much to get as long as the mets pick up his salary.&nbsp; In terms of offense, I am all in favor of getting Abreu here but for a very minimal price in prospects.&nbsp;

[cougarjake13]

<strong>terryc35</strong> wrote:<br />very impressive outing although I think Omar needs to sure up that rotation in the next ten days.&nbsp; A livan Hernandez won't tale too much to get as long as the mets pick up his salary.&nbsp; In terms of offense, I am all in favor of getting Abreu here but for a very minimal price in prospects.&nbsp; <p>if we got abreu he'd play in right, but i kinda like the way nady has played, and not that nady is better than abreu but he has had many clutch homers for us this year including today</p><p>abreu just hasnt looked the same since winning the homerun derby last year</p>

[HBox]

ESPN Radio is reporting that the Mets traded Heilman to the Mariners for Gil Meche. I can't confirm that anywhere else yet.<br />

[newport king]

<p>i was at the game about 6 rows behind first, when i saw him pull up i said to my friend i'd be suprised if he is still here at the end of the trade deadline.</p><p>the guys miserable pitching out of the pen. and fans talk about him like he's some rookie thats just up from AAA like he's just learning how to play at this level. excuse me but he's been in the majors for like 3 years.</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>HBox</strong> wrote:<br /><font color="#000080"><font size="2">ESPN Radio is reporting that the Mets traded Heilman to the Mariners for Gil Meche. I can't confirm that anywhere else yet.</font></font><br /><p>been looking for any atricles on this and havent found anything yet </p>

[cougarjake13]

<p>endy fucking chavez</p><p>3 run homer&nbsp; yehhhhh buuuddddddyyy!!!!!!</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" /></p>

[TheMojoPin]

<p>It only ended up angering the mighty <font size="7">Z!!!<font size="1">, and that is never wise.</font></font></p>

[docgoblin]

They may need a starter . Glavine and Trachel are falling apart. I don't know what to think of Hernandez. I hope Bannister comes back with something and Pelfrey can keep his head above water. Pedro should be well rested at this point. A good young starter could fill the gap though. It's all in the starting pitching at this point. The bullpen is solid, The offense is solid. The starters have gotta keep 'em in the game. Where the White Sox had the perfect staff for the postseason last year, the Mets have an awful staff for a short series.<br />

[Bulldogcakes]

<img width="400" height="295" border="0" src="http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2005-01/16073575.jpg" />

[BoondockSaint]

No homo?

[stickyfingers]

<br />From 4/15/06<br /><br /><strong>stickyfingers</strong> wrote:<br />great win tonight...glavine is a KKKKKKKKKKK machine...<strong>i wish we got rid of heilman when he was worth something</strong>....does anyone still think he should be a starter....oh&nbsp;well, wagner was good, not great.&nbsp; Nice start, keep it up! <br />Are we still getting what we could've for him?

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>According to Buster Onley on ESPN today, Beane has moved from Hielman AND Milledge for Zito to EITHER one plus some lower prospects. Beane likes Heilman, and with Zito hiring Boras he has no cance of signing him. <br /> </p><p>I say DO IT. Either one. </p><p>You can patch together the bullpen with someone else if Heilman is the one to go, and I'd prefer to send him. Maybe you can work out a side deal where you get Roberto Hernandez to fill his spot. <br /></p><p>As far as Milledge goes, you can always sign an outfielder. Every year theres a few good ones available as free agents. But you cant find quality lefty starters every day. And the fact he hired Boras as his agent means you KNOW for a fact he'll go free agent. So you'll have to pay top $$ to re-sign him. But if you were going to sign him anyway, you're going to have to pay him top $$. And he could be the difference between winning a WS or not. And you never know if you'll be this close again, with the rest of the league so weak. <br /></p><p>As the Mets are built now, I'd think they should get to the NLCS, maybe the World Series if things go well. But you haqve big questions about their starters. If they get Zito, I'd make them favorites to get to the WS, and probably favorites to win it. &nbsp;</p>

[cougarjake13]

<p>i'm all for trading heilman and prospects for zito, i wouldnt want to part with milledge but i'd defintely do it to make the trade happen</p><p>i'd love to have pedro zito and glavine going in a playoff series</p><p><img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" /></p>

[Bulldogcakes]

Beane's a smart guy. I think he knows he'll get Milledge if he waits.

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br />Beane's a smart guy. I think he knows he'll get Milledge if he waits. <p>i wouldnt want them to wait too long and he makes a deal with some other team</p><p>if the only snag is to add milledge, then do it and get the deal done</p><p><img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" /></p>

[yarpwizard]

Heilman needs a change of scenery. He wants to start and won't be happy until that happens.

[cougarjake13]

<strong>yarpwizard</strong> wrote:<br />Heilman needs a change of scenery. He wants to start and won't be happy until that happens. <p>i'd be glad to make that happen for him if i was the mets gm and i was getting zito in return</p><p><img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" /></p>

[docgoblin]

I'd let Milledge AND Heilman go for Zito. As long as they don't let go of Pelfrey, Bannister, or Maine I'd make the deal. Like Jack Matthews said in Newsday, getting rid of an outfield prospect is not a bad as getting rid of a pitching prospect... Scott Kasmir ring a bell with anyone?<br />

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by docgoblin on 7-28-06 @ 8:55 PM</span>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>docgoblin</strong> wrote:<br />I'd let Milledge AND Heilman go for Zito. As long as they don't let go of Pelfrey, Bannister, or Maine I'd make the deal. Like Jack Matthews said in Newsday, getting rid of an outfield prospect is not a bad as getting rid of a pitching prospect... Scott Kasmir ring a bell with anyone?<br /><p>dude I live in tampa now and i read about kazmir every day and watch when he pitches, it's like a cruel daily reminder of what a horrible trade that was</p><p>remember how highly touted alex escobar was ??? i know it didnt work out well for us but at least we pulled the trigger while his value was good or close to as high as it was gonna get, i dont remember all the particulars but i know the main guys were roberto alomar and escobar</p><p><img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" /></p>

[docgoblin]

<p> </p><strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>docgoblin</strong> wrote:<br />I'd let Milledge AND Heilman go for Zito. As long as they don't let go of Pelfrey, Bannister, or Maine I'd make the deal. Like Jack Matthews said in Newsday, getting rid of an outfield prospect is not a bad as getting rid of a pitching prospect... Scott Kasmir ring a bell with anyone?<br /><p>dude I live in tampa now and i read about kazmir every day and watch when he pitches, it's like a cruel daily reminder of what a horrible trade that was</p><p>remember how highly touted alex escobar was ??? i know it didnt work out well for us but at least we pulled the trigger while his value was good or close to as high as it was gonna get, i dont remember all the particulars but i know the main guys were roberto alomar and escobar</p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>It's the pitcher-vs-position player argument. Don't be quick to give up on a pitching prospect, but if a great position player prospect can get you something valuable in return (especially a pitcher)... pull the trigger!</p><p><font size="2"><strong>&quot;White people... are so scared... of black people!...&quot;</strong></font></p><p><font size="3"><strong><em>TRIGGER!... I said TRIGGER!</em></strong></font> </p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by docgoblin on 7-28-06 @ 9:40 PM</span>

[BoondockSaint]

Beltran!&nbsp; Another grand salami.&nbsp; MVP MVP!!

[cougarjake13]

<strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br />Beltran!&nbsp; Another grand salami.&nbsp; MVP MVP!! <p>this year he's looking like the guy we thought we were getting when we signed him to that huge deal</p><p><img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" /></p>

[BoondockSaint]

ANd Beltran goes deep again!!! MVP MVP MVP MVP!!!!!

[cougarjake13]

<p>another homer by beltran !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p><p><img height="200" src="http://www.prosportspictures.com/images/mlb/new-york-mets/2005/05-carlos-beltran-action-6-sm.jpg" width="160" border="0" /></p><p><img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" /></p>

[asayresk]

It a good thing the national league lost the all star game cause Beltran is a beast on the road.

[asayresk]

<p>Sweep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>

[cougarjake13]

<p>first sweep by the mets in atlanta since 1985</p><p><img height="225" src="http://llamabutchers.mu.nu/broom.jpg" width="225" border="0" /></p><p><img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" /></p>

[BoondockSaint]

There was an article in one of the papers today about Beltran being the first Brave killer the Mets have had in a long time.&nbsp; Wow was that right.&nbsp; I think he may have nailed their coffin shut today.

[cougarjake13]

<p>piazza seemed to do well against the braves but i wouldnt call him a brave killer</p><p><img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" /></p>

[docgoblin]

They have been amazing on the road this year!&nbsp; I'm still a little&nbsp; nervous about Glavine and Trachel, especially if they don't go get another starter, but they're offense could carry them through the postseason if its clicking like this.<br />

[BoondockSaint]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><p>piazza seemed to do well against the braves but i wouldnt call him a brave killer</p><p><img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" /></p><p>Here is the <a href="http://www.nypost.com/sports/mets/now__difference_makers_a_met_mets_mike_vaccaro.htm" target="_blank">article.</a></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Here is the quote about Piazza:</p><p>Mike Piazza tried for a lot of years, and sometimes looked like the only Met who wasn't on the verge of a crying jag whenever they walked into Turner Field, and so it was never quite enough.</p>

[newport king]

anyone know what our magic number is?

[HBox]

<p><font color="Navy"><font size="2">Seeing as my last scoop was bogus, take this as you will, but I read on another message board that WFAN is reporting Duaner Sanchez separated his shoulder and is out for the season.</font></font><br /></p><p><a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5832906" target="_blank">Here is a link. Car accident.</a>&nbsp;</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by HBox on 7-31-06 @ 3:24 PM</span>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>And when they announce that before the deadline, you knew this was coming</p><p>Nady to Pirates for Roberto Hernandez and Oliver Perez&nbsp;</p>

[BoondockSaint]

At least he got hurt before the trading deadline.&nbsp; If he got hurt tomorrow we would have been screwed.&nbsp; I like Hernandez.&nbsp; Not as good as Sanchez but not bad either.

[cougarjake13]

<strong>newport king</strong> wrote:<br />anyone know what our magic number is? <p><strong><font size="5">45</font></strong></p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br />At least he got hurt before the trading deadline.&nbsp; If he got hurt tomorrow we would have been screwed.&nbsp; I like Hernandez.&nbsp; Not as good as Sanchez but not bad either. <p>hernandez did well for us last year&nbsp; and perez is a decent lefty and maybe pitching on a good team he'll rebound to his 2004 season when he went 12-10 with a 2.98 era</p><p>overall nady's stock was probably never going to be higher and i guess milledge will be in right field now</p><p><img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" /></p>

[newport king]

<p>milledge/chavez...i'm glad milledge will get a good amount of playing time and get used to big league ball now that we've got the division pretty much wrapped up.</p><p>chavez has pretty much done everything right every time the guy gets on the field. i enjoy watching him play. </p>

[lleeder]

Last year with Glavine in cab accident and now this, the mets should just bring there own fleet of towncars everywhere they travel and hire road and home chafeurs

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by lleeder on 7-31-06 @ 9:02 PM</span>

[stickyfingers]

Oliver Perez has a chance to do something good here.&nbsp; I've always liked him despite what his current stats look like.&nbsp; I liked Nady but I guess something had to give.

[newport king]

Perez was great 2 years ago, i don't know what happened.

[BoondockSaint]

I'm really, really worrying about Milledge's attitude right now.&nbsp; It looked like he walked away from Randolph in the dugout.

[cougarjake13]

beltran does it again

[BoondockSaint]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br />beltran does it again <p>He seems like a keeper.</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>newport king</strong> wrote:<br />Perez was great 2 years ago, i don't know what happened. <p>being on a shitty pirates team is what happened, hopefully being on a title contender helps him re focus</p>

[cougarjake13]

<p>mike piazza was great offensively </p><p>but</p><p>it's amazing what a good cathcher behind the plate who can throw out runners can do for you, if piazza was still back there that guy would have been safe and the inning still going</p>

[BoondockSaint]

Yeah, his defense wasn't bad, he just couldn't throw.&nbsp; Big guy + Average arm= Lots of stolen bases.&nbsp; But he called a good game and blocked the plate well.&nbsp; I'm going to try and make it down to see him when the Padres come in.&nbsp; BTW, he leads all NL catches in HR's.&nbsp; Not bad.&nbsp; I'm happy for him.&nbsp;

[cougarjake13]

<strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br />Yeah, his defense wasn't bad, he just couldn't throw.&nbsp; Big guy + Average arm= Lots of stolen bases.&nbsp; But he called a good game and blocked the plate well.&nbsp; I'm going to try and make it down to see him when the Padres come in.&nbsp; BTW, he leads all NL catches in HR's.&nbsp; Not bad.&nbsp; I'm happy for him.&nbsp; <p>i dont normally defend the DH but that would have been perfect for him and the mets if we were an AL team or the NL adopted the DH</p><p>he has 413 homers at age 38 , i would love for him to get to 500 but 450 is probably more realistic .. he's prob at first ballot hall of famer anyway with his current stats</p>

[BoondockSaint]

He probably won't get to 500 but that doesn't matter.&nbsp; He will go in on the first ballot but will he go in as a Met or a Dodger?&nbsp; He had better years as a Dodger but spent more time with the Mets and literally turned the franchise around.&nbsp;

[cougarjake13]

<strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br />He probably won't get to 500 but that doesn't matter.&nbsp; He will go in on the first ballot but will he go in as a Met or a Dodger?&nbsp; He had better years as a Dodger but spent more time with the Mets and literally turned the franchise around.&nbsp; <p>dont they put the cap of the team you played the most with (which would be the mets in piazza's case)</p><p>unless you do something great in a shorter amount of time with another team ??</p>

[newport king]

Is it impossible for a Met closer to actually CLOSE games?

[docgoblin]

The thing that sucks is we could have saved a ton of money and kept Looper. He could do the same crap job that Wagner has done. Is anyone confident with him going into the postseason? I see a horrible blown save similar to the one Benitez gave us in game one vs. the Yanks. The only saving grace is that this offense can win games without Wagner being a factor. Lets hope he isn't called upon in a clutch postseason spot. <br />

[cougarjake13]

<strong>docgoblin</strong> wrote:<br />The thing that sucks is we could have saved a ton of money and kept Looper. He could do the same crap job that Wagner has done. Is anyone confident with him going into the postseason? I see a horrible blown save similar to the one Benitez gave us in game one vs. the Yanks. The only saving grace is that this offense can win games without Wagner being a factor. Lets hope he isn't called upon in a clutch postseason spot. <br /><p>yeh he only has 5 blown saves but i'd still rather have him then looper</p>

[asayresk]

Get the rolaids wagner saves the game. good win for the mets

[BoondockSaint]

<div class="hl"><a href="http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20060803&content_id=1591389&vkey=pr_nym&fext=.jsp&c_id=nym" target="_blank">Mets sign infielder Jose Reyes to a four-year contract with a club option for 2011.</a></div><div class="subHeadLite" /><div class="byLine"><br />SWEET!</div>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br /><a href="http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20060803&content_id=1591389&vkey=pr_nym&fext=.jsp&c_id=nym" target="_blank">Mets sign infielder Jose Reyes to a four-year contract with a club option for 2011.</a> <div /><div /><p>not sure of what david wright's contract situation is but he should be next up</p>

[BoondockSaint]

Wright's not eligible for arbitration until after next season.

[Don Stugots]

<strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br />Wright's not eligible for arbitration until after next season. <p>better enjoy him now.&nbsp; he is the wrong color to make the big $$$$ on this team.</p>

[cougarjake13]

<p>mets win 4-3 glavine gets the win and is now 12-4 with 287 career wins not enough time to get 13 this year but will sometime early next season</p><p>and wagner actually saved&nbsp;the game but did give up 2 hits and had the tying run on 3rd </p><p>he reminds me of another lefty closer we used to have .... johnny franco</p>

[BoondockSaint]

<strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br />Wright's not eligible for arbitration until after next season. <p>better enjoy him now.&nbsp; he is the wrong color to make the big $$$$ on this team.</p><p>Damn.&nbsp; What's it like to be so wrong so fast?</p><p><a href="http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060806&content_id=1596465&vkey=news_nym&fext=.jsp&c_id=nym" target="_blank">Mets' Wright gets contract extension.</a></p><p>NEW YORK -- For years, and even when he was a primary part of their present, the Mets have referred to David Wright as part of the future. And now they have put their money where the mouth is and made it official. The club announced Sunday it had invested another $55 million in its future, that it had signed the face of the organization to a contract that could -- and almost certainly will -- keep Wright him in Mets colors through the 2012 season.</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br />Yeah, his defense wasn't bad, he just couldn't throw. Big guy + Average arm= Lots of stolen bases. But he called a good game and blocked the plate well. I'm going to try and make it down to see him when the Padres come in. BTW, he leads all NL catches in HR's. Not bad. I'm happy for him. <p>&nbsp;</p><p>Thank you. He has a rep for being awful defensively for having one deficiency, yet the other things a catcher needs to do he does well. Glad to see someone knows their baseball. &nbsp;</p><blockquote /><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Don Stugots]

<strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br />Wright's not eligible for arbitration until after next season. <p>better enjoy him now.&nbsp; he is the wrong color to make the big $$$$ on this team.</p><p>Damn.&nbsp; What's it like to be so wrong so fast?</p><p><a href="http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060806&content_id=1596465&vkey=news_nym&fext=.jsp&c_id=nym" target="_blank">Mets' Wright gets contract extension.</a></p><p>&nbsp;</p>NEW YORK -- For years, and even when he was a primary part of their present, the Mets have referred to David Wright as part of the future. And now they have put their money where the mouth is and made it official. The club announced Sunday it had invested another $55 million in its future, that it had signed the face of the organization to a contract that could -- and almost certainly will -- keep Wright him in Mets colors through the 2012 season. <p>&nbsp;</p><p>first, i could care less if i am ever wrong about something i have no control over.&nbsp; B. i am happy for the guy and for the mets.&nbsp; wright is a nice enough guy, hard worker and is nice to the fans.&nbsp; this is a guy that you would want to keep on the team for as long as you can.&nbsp; </p>

[BoondockSaint]

I know.&nbsp; Just bustin' chops.

[Don Stugots]

<strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br />I know.&nbsp; Just bustin' chops. <p>ah what the hell thats what they are for.</p>

[asayresk]

<p>I guess the cat is out of the bag with Paul Lo Duca. It doesnt make him a bad person.</p>

[BoondockSaint]

Jeez, the guy cheated on his wife and is getting a divorce.&nbsp; That's front page news with all that is going on in the world?&nbsp; Gotta love the Post.

[Don Stugots]

<strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br />Jeez, the guy cheated on his wife and is getting a divorce.&nbsp; That's front page news with all that is going on in the world?&nbsp; Gotta love the Post. <p>you mean that there are 2 wars going on in the world right now?&nbsp; stop with your silliness.</p>

[BoondockSaint]

That was a great reception for Piazza.&nbsp; I thought that it was nice of the Mets to play Voodoo Chile as he came up to bat.

[Bulldogcakes]

<p><font size="1">THAT WAS THE WORST FUCKING PRODUCTION JOB I'VE EVER SEEN.</font></p><p><font size="1">I tune in to see Piazza's video tribute, see his reaction. See the fan reaction. </font><font size="1">PLANNED MY FUCKING DAY AROUND IT!</font></p><p>What do I get? <font size="7">A FUCKING GIECO COMMERCIAL</font> and 2 seconds of Piazza running into the dugout. <br /></p><p>Whoever runs SNY should be shot.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

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[Furtherman]

I'm not a Mets fan but I thought it was very classy the way they welcomed back Piazza last night.&nbsp; Gave me the chills.&nbsp; Good for you Mets fans, outclassing those Yankee fans once again!

[BoondockSaint]

The Milledge Paople?&nbsp; ugh.

[Don Stugots]

<strong>Furtherman</strong> wrote:<br />I'm not a Mets fan but I thought it was very classy the way they welcomed back Piazza last night.&nbsp; Gave me the chills.&nbsp; Good for you Mets fans, outclassing those Yankee fans once again! <p>what did we do?</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br />The Milledge Paople?&nbsp; ugh. <p>yeh i thought that was horrible too</p>

[BoondockSaint]

And Piazza is still getting curtain calls at Shea.&nbsp; Unreal.

[Don Stugots]

<strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br />And Piazza is still getting curtain calls at Shea.&nbsp; Unreal. <p>thats called respect.&nbsp; good for him.</p>

[BoondockSaint]

<strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>BoondockSaint</strong> wrote:<br />And Piazza is still getting curtain calls at Shea.&nbsp; Unreal. <p>thats called respect.&nbsp; good for him.</p><p>Well, he can stop with the home runs now.</p>

[BoondockSaint]

I gotta say that Pedro was very classy with his comments about Piazza when they did that in game interview with him.