NY Yankees 2006 Season [Archive] - Page 5

Bulldogcakes

07-30-2006, 10:27 AM

No Proctor, I love it. Looking it over, its a great deal for the Yanks. THey solve their 2 big problems, needing an outfielder and a 5th starter. And Lidle was the better choice over Lieber. The kid they gave up is a long way away and had trouble in the Gulf coast league last year. Plus he's a shortstop. Matt Smith was up with the team both this and last year, and didn't impress me as untouchable. Also, the problem Abreau had in Philly was they wanted him to be their main guy to drive in runs. And he sees himself more as a blend in player. I love it. I think the problem with the Yanks in recent years is has been too many guys trying to hit 3 run HR's and not enough guys passing the baton. The great 98 team was a team of blend in players, and this moves them in that direction.  Great, great move by Cashman    

This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 7-30-06 @ 2:38 PM

HBox

07-30-2006, 10:44 AM

Looks like CJ Henry will be playing for the Lakewood Blue Claws soon, so I'll keep everyone here updated on how much of a disaster/steal this trade turns out to be.

Tenbatsuzen

07-30-2006, 11:07 AM

Sterling's enabler says that the deal is for four minor leaguers - Henry, Smith, and TWO minor-leaguers from a list that doesn't include the two names. The Yankees are responsible for the salary for this season and next.  If the option is picked up, the Phillies pay for it.

Tenbatsuzen

07-30-2006, 11:08 AM

BTW, it's so hot outside.  Milk was a bad choice.

TheGameHHH

07-30-2006, 11:26 AM

I really like this trade as well, I guess keeping Sheff is no longer an option.

HBox

07-30-2006, 11:35 AM

MSNBC thinks highly of the fairness of this trade:<img border="0" src="http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/7105/trademw0.jpg" />

cougarjake13

07-30-2006, 11:54 AM

TheGameHHH wrote: I really like this trade as well, I guess keeping Sheff is no longer an option. there both making 13 mil this year, sheff at 13, abreu at 13.1abreu is 5 years younger and consistently has a on base percentage in the .400 's ... sheff is usually in the high .300 and low .400 's in obpand as bulldogcakes said abreu is more like the blend in guy then the savior of a franchise guyi'd definitely keep abreu and let sheff walk, especially not knowing how well he'll come back from the inury<img src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" border="0" />

Don Stugots

07-30-2006, 12:15 PM

so you would get rid of the guy that while he acts like a bitch at times produces for you, plays while injured, that you went after so hard that you dropped the ball in re-signing a franchise pitcher? shef does play balls to the wall, i dont know enough about abrue to say if he does of not but i know i would rather have a guy that played with heart than just with ability.

cougarjake13

07-30-2006, 12:24 PM

im just saying sheff is much older and who knows how well he'll recover from wrist surgery which is obviously an intregrel part of swinging a bat and abreu is more like a paul oneill type player, not flashy but gets the job done hits for some power , and can drive in runs , obviously not sheffield type numbers but in the yankees lineup he doesnt need to<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

TheGameHHH

07-30-2006, 12:29 PM

unless Sheff would accept a Bernie-type deal for next season. though thats highly doubtful.

HBox

07-30-2006, 12:37 PM

Sheffield is 5 years older than Abreu, much worse than him in the field, and not a good bet to return at his regular level this season, if at all. Sheffield is a worse bet to return than Matsui. Sheffield is 38 next year. Is it really smart to count on his bat speed to remain? I think its much more likely for Abreu to rebound from a sub par season (where he is still maintaining a +.400 OBP, BTW) than it is to pay Sheffield the same amount. Even if they both put up typical seasons next year, Sheffield's small offensive advantage can be mostly offset by Abreu's superior defense and baserunning.And I highly prefer Lidle to Ponson, Chacon and even Wright at this point. I hope he can handle the transition, he's pitched in the AL before.And then there's this, Abreu's numbers versus the Red Sox the last 3 years:.455 BA, 1.379 OPS, 3 HRs 9 RBIs in 33 ABs.

Don Stugots

07-30-2006, 12:49 PM

<hr color="cococo" align="left">HBox wrote: Sheffield is 5 years older than Abreu, much worse than him in the field, and not a good bet to return at his regular level this season, if at all. Sheffield is a worse bet to return than Matsui. Sheffield is 38 next year. Is it really smart to count on his bat speed to remain? I think its much more likely for Abreu to rebound from a sub par season (where he is still maintaining a +.400 OBP, BTW) than it is to pay Sheffield the same amount. Even if they both put up typical seasons next year, Sheffield's small offensive advantage can be mostly offset by Abreu's superior defense and baserunning.And I highly prefer Lidle to Ponson, Chacon and even Wright at this point. I hope he can handle the transition, he's pitched in the AL before.And then there's this, Abreu's numbers versus the Red Sox the last 3 years:.455 BA, 1.379 OPS, 3 HRs 9 RBIs in 33 ABs.<hr color="cococo" align="left">

i had no idea he was thaty well a player. to compare his style of play to that of O'neil says something to me. i hope it works out for the best.

cougarjake13

07-30-2006, 12:53 PM

HBox wrote: Sheffield is 5 years older than Abreu, much worse than him in the field, and not a good bet to return at his regular level this season, if at all. Sheffield is a worse bet to return than Matsui. Sheffield is 38 next year. Is it really smart to count on his bat speed to remain? I think its much more likely for Abreu to rebound from a sub par season (where he is still maintaining a +.400 OBP, BTW) than it is to pay Sheffield the same amount. Even if they both put up typical seasons next year, Sheffield's small offensive advantage can be mostly offset by Abreu's superior defense and baserunning. And I highly prefer Lidle to Ponson, Chacon and even Wright at this point. I hope he can handle the transition, he's pitched in the AL before.And then there's this, Abreu's numbers versus the Red Sox the last 3 years:.455 BA, 1.379 OPS, 3 HRs 9 RBIs in 33 ABs.thats what im saying will sheff's bat speed be the same after a wrist injury and surgery ??like you said abreu is better defensively and on the basepaths averaging 30 steals a year and i'm sure it's not a stretch to assume he'll rebound offensively in the yankee lineup as well as the short porch in right field at yankee stadiumi know george loves his guys and sheff was one of them i think so he can always come back to the yankees as a coach or yes commentator<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

keithy_19

07-30-2006, 01:13 PM

The yankees always seems to pull shit off. Baseball Tonight has beens aying that Abreu was going to stay with philly for the past few weeks now. I hope Phillips eats his words.

Tenbatsuzen

07-30-2006, 01:48 PM

I want chinese.  Any suggestions?

cougarjake13

07-30-2006, 01:48 PM

keithy_19 wrote: The yankees always seems to pull shit off. Baseball Tonight has beens aying that Abreu was going to stay with philly for the past few weeks now. I hope Phillips eats his words. its doubtful   you hardly ever hear these guys admit to being wrong especially on nationally televised tv

Tenbatsuzen

07-30-2006, 01:52 PM

BTW, two players will have to be cut and/or sent down for this.  Any suggestions?  I'm guessing Guiel is released...

Tenbatsuzen

07-30-2006, 02:00 PM

Also, betting is open on Sterling's HR call for Abreu. I'll start with, "Bobby Abreu... Thank the Jew!" (Cashman)

HBox

07-30-2006, 02:00 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: I want chinese. Any suggestions?   <img width="180" height="228" border="0" src="http://www.celebopedia.com/ming/images/yao_ming.jpg" />But I have huge doubts his skills can translate to baseball.

cougarjake13

07-30-2006, 02:00 PM

not that guiel has been great but who's been worse him or crosby but definitely one of them should go and they currently have 12 pitchers on the roster so maybe one of them might go, maybe ponson gets releasedstill there's a possiblity of another trade that could free up some roster room

Tenbatsuzen

07-30-2006, 02:05 PM

cougarjake13 wrote: not that guiel has been great but who's been worse him or crosby but definitely one of them should go and they currently have 12 pitchers on the roster so maybe one of them might go, maybe ponson gets releasedstill there's a possiblity of another trade that could free up some roster room   I don't know how many options Crosby has left.  He seems to go up and down to Columbus alot.  I don't know, at Guiel's age, if you can send him down, but I'm not sure what the rules are in that regard - Guiel has been a strictly cup-of-coffee guy, it feels like. I think Crosby stays, TJ Beam is optioned down, Ponson is moved into the bullpen like Chacon, and Guiel is released.

cougarjake13

07-30-2006, 02:05 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Also, betting is open on Sterling's HR call for Abreu. I'll start with, "Bobby Abreu... Thank the Jew!" (Cashman)Bobby Socks one outta here<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

HBox

07-30-2006, 02:07 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Also, betting is open on Sterling's HR call for Abreu. I'll start with, "Bobby Abreu... Thank the Jew!" (Cashman)   "If we're about to die anyway, I'd rather die fighting! Come for me, G'mork! *I* am Abreu!"

HBox

07-30-2006, 02:09 PM

Crosby adds nothing to this team. Even his defense has been atrocious this year. He better be the one gone.And Ponson wasn't interested in the bullpen in St. louis, so don't be surprised if he's gone.

BoondockSaint

07-30-2006, 02:10 PM

I think this is a great trade for Met fans.  There were rumors that the Mets were going after him and I had no clue why. He's not worth the money for next year.

HBox

07-30-2006, 02:13 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Also, betting is open on Sterling's HR call for Abreu. I'll start with, "Bobby Abreu... Thank the Jew!" (Cashman)   "<a name="5">Kiss the ring motherfucker 
It's Bobby's, Bobby's to shine</a>"

Tenbatsuzen

07-30-2006, 02:16 PM

HBox wrote: And Ponson wasn't interested in the bullpen in St. louis, so don't be surprised if he's gone.    I was going to use the defense that since the Yankees are contending, he might be more accepting of a change, but considering the Cardinals, that's not the case.

FezPaul

07-30-2006, 02:16 PM

HBox wrote:  Tenbatsuzen wrote: Also, betting is open on Sterling's HR call for Abreu. I'll start with, "Bobby Abreu... Thank the Jew!" (Cashman)    "<a name="5">Kiss the ring motherfucker It's Bobby's, Bobby's to shine</a>" I don't think he'd be allowed to say that.This message was edited by LarryLiteral on 7-30-06 @ 6:17 pm

Tenbatsuzen

07-30-2006, 02:18 PM

BoondockSaint wrote: I think this is a great trade for Met fans. There were rumors that the Mets were going after him and I had no clue why. He's not worth the money for next year.   I still don't understand this Milledge-for-Zito chatter, and hope it's just WFAN hoopla.  The Mets have no need for Zito, especially since he shits the bed in the playoffs.

Tenbatsuzen

07-30-2006, 02:20 PM

You know what home run call I miss? Back in the day on Channel 11, whenever a Yankee hit a home run, "Dave Winfield, THIS BUD'S FOR YOU!" complete with cheesey budweiser chyron covering the entire screen as they cross home plate. I kinda long for that.  I don't know why.

Don Stugots

07-30-2006, 02:38 PM

cougarjake13 wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: Also, betting is open on Sterling's HR call for Abreu. I'll start with, "Bobby Abreu... Thank the Jew!" (Cashman)Bobby Socks one outta here<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />A-breu goes A-boom

Bulldogcakes

07-30-2006, 03:59 PM

HBox wrote:And then there's this, Abreu's numbers versus the Red Sox the last 3 years:.455 BA, 1.379 OPS, 3 HRs 9 RBIs in 33 ABs.  ooooh. Nice find H-Box. There's something to look foward to.  <blockquote />

Bulldogcakes

07-30-2006, 04:05 PM

Abraeu. . . . .hmmm . .  thats a toughie How about<img border="0" src="http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9iby4ZpR81ELzUAj.OjzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN 0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=125cjv6b3/EXP=1154390249/**http%3a//www.necbl.com/images/John%2520Sterling.jpg" />"BOBBY ABREAU!! HITS IT A LONG WAY-OOOOOOOH !!!! "        God, thats awful

HBox

07-30-2006, 04:11 PM

"He hit that all the way to the La Breu Tar Pits!"

Bulldogcakes

07-30-2006, 04:22 PM

HBox wrote: "He hit that all the way to the La Breu Tar Pits!"   Hahahaha! Thats just corny enough for him to use it <blockquote />

Crippler

07-30-2006, 05:03 PM

If you want to hear what the Philly faithful think of him, go to:<a href="http://www.joeconklin.com/">www.JoeConklin.com</a>Hit the Audio Samples link & listen to "That's Abreu," a catchy little number that explains Philly's frustration over Bobby shying away from the outfield wall.  Also explains why they made Rowand an instant cult hero for runnning into the wall earlier this year.

Tenbatsuzen

07-30-2006, 06:11 PM

Caption this photo...  <img width="379" height="259" border="0" src="http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20060731/i/r1807363891.jpg?x=380&y=259&sig=KGoIem4rDjK2PxQNCPkfuQ--" /> "YES!  I HAVE SEX WITH THIS WOMAN ON A REGULAR BASIS!" Wait, that's not funny... now I'm depressed.

Fallon

07-30-2006, 06:14 PM

"Yaaaa, dude. Smell my thumb!"

Don Stugots

07-30-2006, 06:14 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Caption this photo...  <img height="259" src="http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20060731/i/r1807363891.jpg?x=380&y=259&sig=KGoIem4rDjK2PxQNCPkfuQ--" width="379" border="0" />  "thanks for getting me these seats Matt"

HBox

07-30-2006, 06:15 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Caption this photo... <img width="379" height="259" border="0" src="http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20060731/i/r1807363891.jpg?x=380&y=259&sig=KGoIem4rDjK2PxQNCPkfuQ--" /> "YES! I HAVE SEX WITH THIS WOMAN ON A REGULAR BASIS!" Wait, that's not funny... now I'm depressed.   "Some guy named Howie just made me look silly."It would have been great if he tossed the ball to her and gave her a wink right in front of him.

HBox

07-30-2006, 06:18 PM

As much as I love seeing the Red Sox getting destroyed, I think I would have prefered the Angels just went into the toilet this series. Everytime the Angels get hot it makes me <strike>nervous</strike> <strike>scared</strike> <strike>terrified</strike> pee my pants.

Tenbatsuzen

07-30-2006, 06:19 PM

I'm waiting for Affleck to find out that Garner was cheating on him, then grab Bonnie Bernstein, mouthrape her, and then says, "I'll take 'em both, I'm hardcore!"

HBox

07-30-2006, 06:22 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Caption this photo... <img width="379" height="259" border="0" src="http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20060731/i/r1807363891.jpg?x=380&y=259&sig=KGoIem4rDjK2PxQNCPkfuQ--" /> "YES! I HAVE SEX WITH THIS WOMAN ON A REGULAR BASIS!" Wait, that's not funny... now I'm depressed.   "Yeah, this is great! Now that nobody is willing to put me in movies anymore, I can do this all the time!"

Fallon

07-30-2006, 06:31 PM

Don Stugots

07-30-2006, 06:35 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: I'm waiting for Affleck to find out that Garner was cheating on him, then grab Bonnie Bernstein, mouthrape her, and then says, "I'll take 'em both, I'm hardcore!"  what a great fucking call back that was.  my hats off to you sir.

Tenbatsuzen

07-30-2006, 06:50 PM

Fallon wrote: <img width="379" height="259" border="0" src="http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h281/WWFallon/jenoit.jpg" />    Brilliant!

El Mudo

07-30-2006, 07:08 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Fallon wrote: <img width="379" height="259" border="0" src="http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h281/WWFallon/jenoit.jpg" /> Brilliant! 

Wow...I had to look twice to even notice that...

Great Stuff

A.J.

07-31-2006, 04:21 AM

Bulldogcakes

07-31-2006, 12:01 PM

Chacon to Pirates for <a title="craig wilson" target="_self" href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6642">Craig wilson</a> Righty first baseman. We've probably seen the last of Andy PhillipsAnd Aaron Guiel, and Ponson.   

This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 7-31-06 @ 4:12 PM

Bulldogcakes

07-31-2006, 12:03 PM

<img width="379" height="259" border="0" src="http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20060731/i/r1807363891.jpg?x=380&y=259&sig=KGoIem4rDjK2PxQNCPkfuQ--" />  "HEY! LOOK WHAT I JUST PULLED OUT OF MY ASS!!" <blockquote />

HBox

07-31-2006, 01:37 PM

As of right now I give Brian Cashman big kudos. He really improved this team and gave up almost nothing. Improved the bench, improved first base, improved right field, improved rotation. Still a little weak in the bullpen, but if Dotel can return at his normal level, or even somewhat close to it, I like how this team looks.

Don Stugots

07-31-2006, 01:40 PM

same here.  i would still like a more solid 5 man rotation but i am a stickler for pitching and wouldnt be happy unless they grabbed D-train.  i do think the moves they made were smart.

HBox

07-31-2006, 01:43 PM

Guiel was optioned to Columbus and Ponson has agreed to pitch out of the bullpen. Cashman said that Andy Phillips still has a place on this team (hopefully as a ball boy) and that they will make one more move tomorrow.As long as Craig Wilson is healthy, he should play over Phillips EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME.

newport king

07-31-2006, 02:00 PM

wouldnt be happy unless they grabbed D-train.it's shit like this that makes people detest yankee fans. in 2 days you got 2 of the best young star players in the game in Abreu and Wilson. Yet you HAVE to have Willis too? Maybe they can reanimate ty cobb and defrost ted williams's head too. On a lighter note, Russo and Cashman got into a pretty good bitch fight today.Russo basically said Lidle is garbage, Cashman defended it by saying "you also said wang was no good"Russo defended that by saying "i also said pavano and wright were bad deals, how'd those work out for you?"pretty uncomfortable/interesting radio.

HBox

07-31-2006, 02:17 PM

newport king wrote:  wouldnt be happy unless they grabbed D-train. it's shit like this that makes people detest yankee fans. in 2 days you got 2 of the best young star players in the game in Abreu and Wilson. Yet you HAVE to have Willis too? Maybe they can reanimate ty cobb and defrost ted williams's head too. On a lighter note, Russo and Cashman got into a pretty good bitch fight today.Russo basically said Lidle is garbage, Cashman defended it by saying "you also said wang was no good"Russo defended that by saying "i also said pavano and wright were bad deals, how'd those work out for you?"pretty uncomfortable/interesting radio.  Craig Wilson is not a star. He's a reliable starter. That's about it.

Tenbatsuzen

07-31-2006, 02:44 PM

HBox wrote: Guiel was optioned to Columbus and Ponson has agreed to pitch out of the bullpen. Cashman said that Andy Phillips still has a place on this team (hopefully as a ball boy) and that they will make one more move tomorrow.As long as Craig Wilson is healthy, he should play over Phillips EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME.    Doesn't this still leave the Yankees roster overloaded?  Someone else has to be released/sent down. As for the Guiel option: Good.  I'm a fan of his for some unknown reason, and he'll have a month in Ohio, then come back in September.

Tenbatsuzen

07-31-2006, 02:47 PM

HBox

07-31-2006, 02:54 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: HBox wrote: Guiel was optioned to Columbus and Ponson has agreed to pitch out of the bullpen. Cashman said that Andy Phillips still has a place on this team (hopefully as a ball boy) and that they will make one more move tomorrow.As long as Craig Wilson is healthy, he should play over Phillips EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME. Doesn't this still leave the Yankees roster overloaded? Someone else has to be released/sent down. As for the Guiel option: Good. I'm a fan of his for some unknown reason, and he'll have a month in Ohio, then come back in September.   They only need to make two moves right now to fit Abreu and Lidle. Wilson took Chacon's spot.I'm guessing they are debating whether to send down Crosby or Beam. Corsby is more expendable now since Wilson can play 1B and RF.

Tenbatsuzen

07-31-2006, 02:59 PM

HBox wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: HBox wrote: Guiel was optioned to Columbus and Ponson has agreed to pitch out of the bullpen. Cashman said that Andy Phillips still has a place on this team (hopefully as a ball boy) and that they will make one more move tomorrow.As long as Craig Wilson is healthy, he should play over Phillips EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME. Doesn't this still leave the Yankees roster overloaded? Someone else has to be released/sent down. As for the Guiel option: Good. I'm a fan of his for some unknown reason, and he'll have a month in Ohio, then come back in September. They only need to make two moves right now to fit Abreu and Lidle. Wilson took Chacon's spot.I'm guessing they are debating whether to send down Crosby or Beam. Corsby is more expendable now since Wilson can play 1B and RF.    Any idea how many options Bubba has left?  Can't be a lot, he's gone up and down a lot in the past two years.  Between Bubba and Beam, I'm thinking Beam goes down, unless Cashman knows something we don't, which... is probably a lot of things.

Bulldogcakes

07-31-2006, 03:24 PM

Since Ponson agreed to move to the pen (which could be interesting) I'd say Phillips gets sent down. He has nowhere to play now anywayLidle takes Chacons spot in the rotationAbreau takes Guiel's spot I'd say Cashman did a fairly nice job of upgrading the team. Ya think? Anyone who isn't happy with thses deals is the kind of guy who would spend the night with Scarlett Johannson, and then complain the next day that Jessica Alba didn't show up for a threesome.        

This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 7-31-06 @ 7:27 PM

Don Stugots

07-31-2006, 03:45 PM

newport king wrote:  wouldnt be happy unless they grabbed D-train.  it's shit like this that makes people detest yankee fans. in 2 days you got 2 of the best young star players in the game in Abreu and Wilson. Yet you HAVE to have Willis too? Maybe they can reanimate ty cobb and defrost ted williams's head too. On a lighter note, Russo and Cashman got into a pretty good bitch fight today.Russo basically said Lidle is garbage, Cashman defended it by saying "you also said wang was no good"Russo defended that by saying "i also said pavano and wright were bad deals, how'd those work out for you?"pretty uncomfortable/interesting radio.newport if you go back and read any of my posts in this thread you will see that i am not a fan of the yanks getting another big bat.  i am a huge fan of pitching, to me pitching wins the game.  i mentioned Willis by name due to his name being in the news and on he is a great pitcher.  what fan of what team wouldnt want one of the best pitchers in the game right now on there team?  i am not the type of fan that thinks they yanks should go after every single free agent every year.  if we have a hole that needs to be filled or upgraded then go after him.  i could have seen the yanks going after Beltran for last season to upgrade center field.  it made sense, you have Bernie near the end and he can groom a young guy.  on the other hand i couldnt see the yanks going after Delgado.  now, am i still that other kind of fan?

cougarjake13

07-31-2006, 04:20 PM

lleeder

07-31-2006, 04:53 PM

I thought Cashman was going to tell him to fuck off at one point. He even stole Opie's bit and tore down a wall at one point. When he said we are friends and I know your suppose to attack the yankees but im defending my guys thing

newport king

07-31-2006, 04:58 PM

You have to admit EVERY big name that hits the free agent market, trade rumor mill, yankee fans, for the most part (also probably post 1996 yankee fans), think they have some sort of right to said player.Look at the names you have on your roster.ArodGiambiMooseAbreuDamonSheffieldUnitI could go on and on. Even when you could have got Beltran two years ago, you ALREADY HAD A STARTING CENTERFIELDER!!! Groom Him for a year??? please, the guy was already an all-star. He wasn't some AAA talent. The Royals may be considered AAA but they're actually not.My point is, when is enough enough?

cougarjake13

07-31-2006, 05:02 PM

newport king wrote: You have to admit EVERY big name that hits the free agent market, trade rumor mill, yankee fans, for the most part (also probably post 1996 yankee fans), think they have some sort of right to said player.Look at the names you have on your roster.ArodGiambiMooseAbreuDamonSheffieldUnitI could go on and on. Even when you could have got Beltran two years ago, you ALREADY HAD A STARTING CENTERFIELDER!!! Groom Him for a year??? please, the guy was already an all-star. He wasn't some AAA talent. The Royals may be considered AAA but they're actually not.My point is, when is enough enough?when the entire AL all star roster is filled with nothing but yankees, and even then it probably wont be enough<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake132.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

Don Stugots

07-31-2006, 05:05 PM

bernie was a starter then but he was going into what was to be his last year.  as for when is enough truly enough?  as for free agents, thats the game.  the mets are now playing money ball arent they?  i would like to see more home growen talent like Jeter come up through the system but with George still at the wheel that isnt going to happen. by the way, A-rod wasnt a free agent.  the yanks took him to fill a void at third base after BOONE broke his knee playing basketball.  plus, isnt texas in better financal shape now?

lleeder

07-31-2006, 05:07 PM

Don't forget the yankees coaching staff made up of either yankee legends or former major league managers. And that the Mets manager is a former yankee great, thats sweet too.

HBox

07-31-2006, 05:10 PM

I could go on and on. Even when you could have
got Beltran two years ago, you ALREADY HAD A STARTING CENTERFIELDER!!!
Groom Him for a year??? please, the guy was already an all-star. He
wasn't some AAA talent. The Royals may be considered AAA but they're
actually not.Did you see Bernie Willaims play CF last year? Did you wonder why they were so desperate as to call up Melky Cabrera last year? Did you wonder why fucking Bubba Crosby was starting games in CF last year in the playoffs? it's because Bernie Williams had no business playing Cf last year. There would have been no grooming. It would have worked exactly like it's working this year, with Damon playing CF everyday and Bernie playing once in a while when Damon is injured or needs a day off?My point is, when is enough enough?Last year, as you mentioned, when the Yanks decided to choose between Randy Johnson and Beltran. They decided for whatever reason, perhaps not being able to afford both, perhaps thinking acquiring both would not be smart for the future of the club, that they would only acquire one, and they went after Johnson, and once they got him stopped their contigency plans and cut it off with Beltran.But it takes balls for a Met fan to say this. Did you notice what they did this offseason, Minaya's repeat raping of Florida? Did you notice Sportsnet NY popping up? Do you realize why? Because they are headed down the same road as the Yanks, they are trying to close the financial gap. And you better hope for your own sake one offseason when the Mets are chasing down a marquee free agent that Wilpon or Minaya go, "Oh Jeez Louise guys! This is just too much. Who cares that this will improve our team? This just isn't fair. Let the Tamaa re-sign Scott Kazmir. We had our chance with him and blew it, it wouldn't be fair to Tampa to sign him with our payroll!"But then again, who knows with Wilpon.

newport king

07-31-2006, 05:12 PM

i wasn't just saying free agent pickups. i've heard yankee fans say that they should pick up johan santana....SANTANA!!!!

newport king

07-31-2006, 05:17 PM

I agree Hbox, the yankees/red sox set the standard with their own networks and the metropolitanos are following suit. I understand its a money game. I don't fault steinbrenner for trying to aquire every player every year no matter the cost, in order to deliver a championship to his fans every single year. I think more owners should be like that. What my point was, the yankee FAN is the problem. not the way they run their club or the system in which they operate.

Don Stugots

07-31-2006, 05:25 PM

if you can see george's POV they what is wrong with the fan.  and dont you mean most fans? 

A.J.

08-01-2006, 04:14 AM

Bulldogcakes wrote: Chacon to Pirates for <a title="craig wilson" href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6642" target="_self">Craig wilson</a> I love his column in USA Today.

Crippler

08-01-2006, 04:17 AM

Does his partner Jack come along in the deal?

This message was edited by Crippler on 8-1-06 @ 8:18 AM

Bulldogcakes

08-01-2006, 02:23 PM

<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2536111" target="_self" title="Eu De Derrick">Eu De Derrick</a><img border="0" src="http://espn-att.starwave.com/photo/2006/0801/mlb_a_jeter_275.jpg" />  Avon Products Inc. has signed the <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nyy">New York Yankees</a> shortstop to a deal in which it will create a men's fragrance called Driven --
"reflecting the unique personality of one of the most driven men
in America," according to a news release from the company. The fragrance, the first in a line of men's grooming products
bearing Jeter's name, goes on sale in November. "I have been very involved with creating this fragrance --
everything from the blend of scents to the design of the bottle and
logo," Jeter said in the news release. "I did have some help,
however. Because women buy a large percentage of the men's grooming
products sold in the U.S., I asked my mother Dot and sister Sharlee
to be part of the project. <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2536111" target="_self" title="Eu De Derrick"></a>

Furtherman

08-01-2006, 02:26 PM

Bulldogcakes wrote: <a title="Eu De Derrick" href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2536111" target="_self">Eu De Derrick</a>   <a title="Eu De Derrick" href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2536111" target="_self"></a>Eu De Gay.But no, that's manly, I guess.

HBox

08-01-2006, 02:40 PM

Bulldogcakes wrote: <a title="Eu De Derrick" target="_self" href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2536111">Eu De Derrick</a><img border="0" src="http://espn-att.starwave.com/photo/2006/0801/mlb_a_jeter_275.jpg" />    Avon Products Inc. has signed the <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nyy">New York Yankees</a> shortstop to a deal in which it will create a men's fragrance called Driven --
"reflecting the unique personality of one of the most driven men
in America," according to a news release from the company. The fragrance, the first in a line of men's grooming products
bearing Jeter's name, goes on sale in November. "I have been very involved with creating this fragrance --
everything from the blend of scents to the design of the bottle and
logo," Jeter said in the news release. "I did have some help,
however. Because women buy a large percentage of the men's grooming
products sold in the U.S., I asked my mother Dot and sister Sharlee
to be part of the project.   <a title="Eu De Derrick" target="_self" href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2536111"></a>  <img width="258" height="363" border="0" src="http://www.yesterdaypaper.com/adv/3708.jpg" /> Hi-ya! Would you like to smell like Derek Jeter?

Tenbatsuzen

08-01-2006, 02:42 PM

Oh motherfuckers please.  Jordan had his own cologne.

Snoogans

08-01-2006, 02:43 PM

yea and it tanked and we all laughed at him for it. Same with all the colognes and perfumes. GAY GAY GAY. WE DONT WANNA SMELL LIKE GAY BALL PLAYER

TheGameHHH

08-01-2006, 03:01 PM

Bobby's first night in pinstripes!

HBox

08-01-2006, 03:06 PM

A-Rod is releasing a new cologne. It smells like vomit and is called "Crunch Time."Jason Giambi has a new fragrance. It smells like oily hair and farts and causes back acne. It's called "Brute Force."Johnny Damon has a new fragrance. it smells like KY and santorum (look it up). It's called "Dinge Queen."Chien Ming-Wang has a new fragrance. It smells like green onions and fried dog. It's called "Jaundy Boy."

This message was edited by HBox on 8-1-06 @ 7:07 PM

Bulldogcakes

08-01-2006, 03:22 PM

HBox wrote: A-Rod is releasing a new cologne. It smells like vomit and is called "Crunch Time."  Ouch! That'll leave a bruise

HBox

08-01-2006, 03:32 PM

The heat is sucking the energy out of this crowd. That makeup game versus the Marlins on that Sunday night a month ago when there were only like 3000 people in the stadium was louder than this.

Tenbatsuzen

08-01-2006, 04:31 PM

HBox wrote: The heat is sucking the energy out of this crowd. That makeup game versus the Marlins on that Sunday night a month ago when there were only like 3000 people in the stadium was louder than this.    Yankees baseball or not, who the fuck in their right mind would be outside for an extended period of time in this shit? I was at a Bon Jovi show in temps that were 15 degrees cooler a few weeks ago and I was a fucking mess.

Don Stugots

08-01-2006, 04:39 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  HBox wrote: The heat is sucking the energy out of this crowd. That makeup game versus the Marlins on that Sunday night a month ago when there were only like 3000 people in the stadium was louder than this.    Yankees baseball or not, who the fuck in their right mind would be outside for an extended period of time in this shit? I was at a Bon Jovi show in temps that were 15 degrees cooler a few weeks ago and I was a fucking mess.  i was out in this shit for 10 fucking hours.  i think i heatr stroke.

Tenbatsuzen

08-01-2006, 04:41 PM

STUGOTS1 wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: HBox wrote: The heat is sucking the energy out of this crowd. That makeup game versus the Marlins on that Sunday night a month ago when there were only like 3000 people in the stadium was louder than this. Yankees baseball or not, who the fuck in their right mind would be outside for an extended period of time in this shit? I was at a Bon Jovi show in temps that were 15 degrees cooler a few weeks ago and I was a fucking mess. i was out in this shit for 10 fucking hours. i think i heatr stroke.    I hope for your sake you work in an outdoor, non-government job, otherwise I question your sanity.

HBox

08-01-2006, 05:12 PM

i was out in this shit for 10 fucking hours.  i think i heatr stroke.I agree.

Tenbatsuzen

08-01-2006, 05:17 PM

VILLOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE.

TheGameHHH

08-01-2006, 06:21 PM

look out boston, here come the yanks

zildjian361

08-01-2006, 07:11 PM

TheGameHHH wrote: look out boston, here come the yanks MAN UP BOYS THE DAWGS DAYS OF SUMMER IS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT THIS GETS YOU TO OCTOBER,<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/wink.gif" border="0" /><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/drunk.gif" border="0" />

zildjian361

08-01-2006, 07:12 PM

zildjian361

08-01-2006, 07:12 PM

Fallon

08-01-2006, 09:41 PM

TheGameHHH wrote: look out boston, here come the yanks  Sunday: Nixon gets hurt, 15 day DLMonday: Varitek gets hurt, surgery, 15 day DLTuesday: Lowell leaves game after fowl ball to legYeah, this is not good.

Tenbatsuzen

08-02-2006, 08:12 AM

Fallon wrote: Tuesday: Lowell leaves game after fowl ball to leg    Yeah, even poultry hates the Red Sox.

Bulldogcakes

08-02-2006, 03:19 PM

Watching the game last night, I got a real sense from the crowd that there was a big turnaround coming. With the moves the Yanks made, with whats been going on w/the BoSox, ChiSox and Toronto. That old "Yankee inevitibility" was in the air, I haven't felt it for the past few years. They were chanting "Bobby" for Abreau, A-Rod got a big hit, and just like the good ol days Bern baby burn gets the game winning hit. They were even screaming at Vernon Wells that he'll be here within the next 2 years. Which he probably will, from all the buzz thats been going around in the past week. I'm just surprised so many fans knew about it. I know there are still problems. Who knows what you get from Johnson consistently anymore. But they are so solid right now in the starting lineup and the bench, the bullpen is deep and performing well. Proctor is rested and I think they've figured out how to use Farnsworth. Reinforcements are coming in Cano, Dotel and later this month the two outfielders. I expect a very strong August, and a stronger September.

HBox

08-02-2006, 05:18 PM

Imagine Angry Typing guy when reading the following:If A-Rod gets out here: "THERE HE GOES!!! STRIKING OUT IN THE CLUTCH AGAIN!!!!!"If A-Rod gets a hit: "THERE HE GOES!!!!! TACKING ON MORE MEANINGLESS RUNS IN A BLOW OUT!!!!!" 

This message was edited by HBox on 8-2-06 @ 9:19 PM

Don Stugots

08-02-2006, 06:17 PM

A-rod way to hustle out that double.  great slide.  where were the boos then?  haters.

Tenbatsuzen

08-03-2006, 09:28 AM

The Giambino! Abreu has been making a lot of contact too... that first at-bat had a chance.

BoondockSaint

08-03-2006, 09:39 AM

Does Giambi ever not take a curtain call? 

Crippler

08-03-2006, 11:06 AM

Not the first time I've heard it, but it the more I hear it the more I hate it:"The Melk-man always knocks twice"...worst Sterling-ism EVER!

Tenbatsuzen

08-03-2006, 11:13 AM

Crippler wrote: Not the first time I've heard it, but it the more I hear it the more I hate it:"The Melk-man always knocks twice"...worst Sterling-ism EVER!   I've actually done extensive editing work to Sterling's Wikipedia entry to reflect what his issues have been during the 2006 season.

crb1

08-03-2006, 11:16 AM

The sterling calls along with the Waldmyn's "I sound like your great aunt" voice are the main reasons I love AWAY games on XM.I wonder what he's working on for Abreu...

Tenbatsuzen

08-03-2006, 11:19 AM

crb1 wrote: The sterling calls along with the Waldmyn's "I sound like your great aunt" voice are the main reasons I love AWAY games on XM.I wonder what he's working on for Abreu...    The sad thing is, I liked the Sterling/Steiner combo, but they apparently DESPISED each other.

HBox

08-03-2006, 11:22 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: crb1 wrote: The sterling calls along with the Waldmyn's "I sound like your great aunt" voice are the main reasons I love AWAY games on XM.I wonder what he's working on for Abreu... The sad thing is, I liked the Sterling/Steiner combo, but they apparently DESPISED each other.   They got rid of the wrong guy.

Tenbatsuzen

08-03-2006, 11:24 AM

HBox wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: crb1 wrote: The sterling calls along with the Waldmyn's "I sound like your great aunt" voice are the main reasons I love AWAY games on XM.I wonder what he's working on for Abreu... The sad thing is, I liked the Sterling/Steiner combo, but they apparently DESPISED each other. They got rid of the wrong guy.   Apparently Steiner left on his own for the Dodgers gig, as far as I recall.

Tenbatsuzen

08-03-2006, 11:26 AM

I'd love to see Sweeny Murti do play by play.  He's got a great voice, and it's incredibly rare to see someone of a non-David Wright caliber as himself doing such a wonderful job.

crb1

08-03-2006, 11:48 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  crb1 wrote: The sterling calls along with the Waldmyn's "I sound like your great aunt" voice are the main reasons I love AWAY games on XM.I wonder what he's working on for Abreu... The sad thing is, I liked the Sterling/Steiner combo, but they apparently DESPISED each other.  I didn't like Sterling/Steiner, simply because they sounded too similar. I'm not saying they had the same styles, but they did have similar voices and inflections (in my opinion), and it drove me nuts.  I actually liked Sterling/Kay, but I don't like Kay on the TV side.  Why?  I don't know.  On a side note...great 1st start for Lidle.  They kept him to only 80 pitches though. Not sure if it was the heat, the long top of the 7th, or just wanting to get him started on a good note...

crb1

08-03-2006, 11:49 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Apparently Steiner left on his own for the Dodgers gig, as far as I recall.  I think that's right, although he also does a show on XM 175.

HBox

08-03-2006, 12:14 PM

It's an 8-1 game, and you have the two most overworked relievers in the league, so it only makes sense to have them pitch. Oh, and then Farnsworth gets hurt. heh.<img border="0" src="http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/3461/explscanjy0.gif" />

crb1

08-03-2006, 12:19 PM

HBox wrote: It's an 8-1 game, and you have the two most overworked relievers in the league, so it only makes sense to have them pitch. Oh, and then Farnsworth gets hurt. heh.Farnsworth got hurt?  Any idea if it was his back again?  They need him back, if for no other reason than to avoid killing Proctor.

HBox

08-03-2006, 12:22 PM

crb1 wrote: HBox wrote: It's an 8-1 game, and you have the two most overworked relievers in the league, so it only makes sense to have them pitch. Oh, and then Farnsworth gets hurt. heh.Farnsworth got hurt? Any idea if it was his back again? They need him back, if for no other reason than to avoid killing Proctor.   He hurt himself trying to field the ball with his hand.Torre will do his best to kill Proctor no matter what. He should get a restraining order.

Tenbatsuzen

08-03-2006, 12:48 PM

Farnsworth and Proctor were doing FINE until that moment.  Calm down, Hbox.  It wasn't like they threw 30-40 pitches. Ponson scared the shit out of me though.

HBox

08-03-2006, 01:04 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Farnsworth and Proctor were doing FINE until that moment. Calm down, Hbox. It wasn't like they threw 30-40 pitches. Ponson scared the shit out of me though.   Scott Proctor has pitched 65 innings this year. That's eight more than the next closest guy. Proctor and Farnsworth are 1-2 in apperances in the league. Every goddamn year we go down this road. There's a reason Tom Gordon sucked in the postseason the last two years. There's a reason Tanyon Sturtze fell off the face of the earth. There's a reason why Scott Proctor sucked for a good month after being way overworked in the beginning of the season. Sometimes Torre has excuses. Shit like today can't be excused. If Farnsworth gets hurt protecting a 2-1 lead, you have to accept that, he's doing the job he's paid to do. Instead, he gets hurt pitching in the eighth inning of an 8-1 game!? WHAT? HE'S NOT GETTING PAID $7 MILLION TO BE A MOP UP GUY!!!!!

Tenbatsuzen

08-03-2006, 01:41 PM

The main reason why Farnsworth and Proctor have so many appearances is because someone like Chacon and Wright couldn't go deep, and Randy Johnson also had issues sporadically going deep.You can't leave Randy in there to get shelled given his age, and Chacon may have taken himself out of games, given his attitude problems. Appearances is one thing, IP is another.  Yes, Farnsworth has pitched 65 innings, but Villone and Mo have about  the same innings pitched, and Farnsworth has pitched in 47 innings. It's also unfair to compare Gordon falling apart late in the season compared to Farnsworth and Proctor, considering that both Farnsworth and Proctor are significantly younger than Gordon. With Ponson in the bullpen, he can now serve the purpose of eating up innings late in the game.  I'm sure that will be the case in the future.  In fact, for all we know, the original plan was to give Ponson the ninth before Farnsworth went out early.

HBox

08-03-2006, 02:06 PM

Matsui saw the doctor today and was not cleared for batting practice. It will be at least a month before he returns.And Ponson is the mop up guy.  He should have gone in as soon as Lidle was taken out, and stayed in until he ran out of gas or started getting into trouble. That's his job. Hell, have a ridiculously short leash with him, that's fine. Don't run out your best relievers in a blowout tiring them and risking injury in a blowout.

HBox

08-03-2006, 03:03 PM

August 2nd, on the Yankee desk calendar, looked like this:<img width="412" height="405" border="0" src="http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/resources/2006/08/afriacnamericanyankees.jpg" />

Bulldogcakes

08-03-2006, 04:45 PM

Crippler wrote: Not the first time I've heard it, but it the more I hear it the more I hate it:"The Melk-man always knocks twice"...worst Sterling-ism EVER! That is bad. He's just trying way too hard (Like w/the Giambino). He should simply say "THE MELK-MAN DELIVERS!" Now that would be good.  <blockquote />

Don Stugots

08-03-2006, 04:53 PM

HBox wrote: August 2nd, on the Yankee desk calendar, looked like this:<img height="405" src="http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/resources/2006/08/afriacnamericanyankees.jpg" width="412" border="0" /> the color black is now to be refered to as african american.  someone please notify caryola.  thank you.or how are they going to wrap an african american around their arms?

Bulldogcakes

08-03-2006, 04:57 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: I'd love to see Sweeny Murti do play by play. He's got a great voice, and it's incredibly rare to see someone of a non-David Wright caliber as himself doing such a wonderful job.  Are you sure you work(ed) in radio? He has an awful voice. Say what you want about Sterling, he's got pipes. I'd also refer you to when Mike and the Maddog did a Met game earlier this year. Play by play isn't as easy as it looks. I'd like to see an ex player do some radio, like Mercer. He's very likeable and easy to listen to. But radio doesn't pay as much as TV and you actually have to show up for work, so you dont see alot of ex-players doing radio. Sterling has his detractors, but I dont care. Most of them are Met fans and/or NL fans who take the GAME of baseball way too seriously (as well as themselves). Its just a game, he's an entertainer (sometimes) and he's part of the Yankee fabric at this point. .  <blockquote />

Tenbatsuzen

08-03-2006, 04:59 PM

HBox wrote: August 2nd, on the Yankee desk calendar, looked like this:<img width="412" height="405" border="0" src="http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/resources/2006/08/afriacnamericanyankees.jpg" />  They didn't call him Mr. Coffee for nothing, you know!   

This message was edited by Tenbatsuzen on 8-3-06 @ 9:00 PM

Tenbatsuzen

08-03-2006, 05:06 PM

Bulldogcakes wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: I'd love to see Sweeny Murti do play by play. He's got a great voice, and it's incredibly rare to see someone of a non-David Wright caliber as himself doing such a wonderful job. Are you sure you work(ed) in radio? He has an awful voice. Say what you want about Sterling, he's got pipes.    That's exactly the point.  I much rather listen to a young, enthusiastic person like Sweeny than someone who's got a great voice but just drips in ego and awfulness. One of my favorite things is listening to baseball on the radio.  You don't need to be a boss jock to be a play by play guy.  You need to tell a story and let the moment live for itself.  Sterling has a hard time doing that.  <blockquote />

Bulldogcakes

08-03-2006, 05:11 PM

I agree TB. I know who the Yankees should get <img width="159" height="223" border="0" src="http://www.nndb.com/people/160/000058983/tom_leykis.jpg" />Someone who's real, with a real voice

Bulldogcakes

08-03-2006, 05:12 PM

Or maybe. . . .<img width="235" height="276" border="0" src="http://www.nndb.com/people/428/000022362/rush-pubshot.jpg" />  Is he a Yankee fan?

HBox

08-03-2006, 05:34 PM

Leykis: WHOA that was a great swing by Bernie. Just the kind of swing you need to take with a yule log to knock your wife into the fireplace!Limbaugh: Bernie really isn't that good, if you look at the stats. The media is just desirous for a black man to to succeed in baseball.Leykis: Bernie Williams is Puerto Rican.Limbaugh: Whatever. You got anything to say Tom Jackson?Tom Jackson: No suh!

This message was edited by HBox on 8-3-06 @ 9:34 PM

RingWraith

08-03-2006, 07:48 PM

Tenbatsuzen

08-03-2006, 08:18 PM

RingWraith wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: crb1 wrote: The sterling calls along with the Waldmyn's "I sound like your great aunt" voice are the main reasons I love AWAY games on XM.I wonder what he's working on for Abreu... The sad thing is, I liked the Sterling/Steiner combo, but they apparently DESPISED each other. You know, I always wonder if Sterling was bitter that he didn't get to make Aaron Boone's Walk-Off HR call in the 2003 ALCS. It happened when it was Steiner's turn to call the inning.    Rumor has it that one of the reasons that the Sterling/Steiner relationship deteriorated rather quickly was because Steiner jumped in on the "Yankees win!" catchphrase because Sterling was trying to elbow in on the glory of the moment.. Which honestly - at the time - you could HEAR the joy in Steiner's voice and how organic that moment was.

TheGameHHH

08-03-2006, 08:32 PM

I loved Steiner, I HATE Sterling.

crb1

08-04-2006, 04:04 AM

Nice to see the Yanks finally pick up a game on the Sox.  Beckett has to be the most bi-polar pitcher in the league.  He seems to go from dominant to doormat in the blink of an eye.  Is this the same guy that dominated in the 2003 WS? 

A.J.

08-04-2006, 04:27 AM

HBox wrote: August 2nd, on the Yankee desk calendar, looked like this:<img height="405" src="http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/resources/2006/08/afriacnamericanyankees.jpg" width="412" border="0" /> So will this be retitled "Back in African-American"?<img height="168" src="http://www.therockradio.com/back-in-black.gif" width="170" border="0" />

A.J.

08-04-2006, 04:28 AM

crb1 wrote: Nice to see the Yanks finally pick up a game on the Sox.  Beckett has to be the most bi-polar pitcher in the league.  He seems to go from dominant to doormat in the blink of an eye.  Is this the same guy that dominated in the 2003 WS?  Like Fezzie, he peaked a long time ago.

HBox

08-04-2006, 01:36 PM

Bubba Crosby was DFA'd. Jose Veras is being called up in his place.

Tenbatsuzen

08-04-2006, 02:30 PM

HBox wrote: Bubba Crosby was DFA'd. Jose Veras is being called up in his place.   You must be celebrating.

Tenbatsuzen

08-04-2006, 02:44 PM

And in celebration of YOUR First Place New York Yankees... <img width="300" height="100" border="0" src="http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/2168/ttanet2.jpg" />

HBox

08-04-2006, 02:49 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: HBox wrote: Bubba Crosby was DFA'd. Jose Veras is being called up in his place. You must be celebrating.   I'm handling myself in a manner befitting a gentleman.

Bulldogcakes

08-04-2006, 02:50 PM

HBox wrote: Leykis: WHOA that was a great swing by Bernie. Just the kind of swing you need to take with a yule log to knock your wife into the fireplace!Limbaugh: Bernie really isn't that good, if you look at the stats. The media is just desirous for a black man to to succeed in baseball.Leykis: Bernie Williams is Puerto Rican.Limbaugh: Whatever. You got anything to say Tom Jackson?Tom Jackson: No suh!

This message was edited by HBox on 8-3-06 @ 9:34 PM Nice! <blockquote />

Tenbatsuzen

08-04-2006, 03:05 PM

Singleton's doing the game by himself.  This will be interesting. Apparently, O'Neill had travel problems coming out of Cincinnatti.  Wonder when he found out of his flight was going to be late, he smashed the galley cart and broke a seat tray.

HBox

08-04-2006, 03:07 PM

This is going to be weird.Apparently, O'Neill had travel problems coming
out of Cincinnatti.  Wonder when he found out of his flight was going
to be late, he smashed the galley cart and broke a seat tray.Al Trautwig is going to join Singleton and call O'Neill lazy. And then later tonight Joe Torre will bitchslap Trautwig.(hope someone gets that one) 

This message was edited by HBox on 8-4-06 @ 7:09 PM

Tenbatsuzen

08-04-2006, 03:09 PM

HBox wrote: This is going to be weird.    Isn't Sweeney there?  I'm shocked, in a pinch situation, that they didn't get him in there.  I mean, surely there's SOMEONE down there that can assist.  Hell, have Waldmyn do half the game with the radio, the other half with Yes.

Tenbatsuzen

08-04-2006, 03:10 PM

Two things either happened... YES's producers either thought nobody could do color besides O'Neill, and no one else was available OR  Gave Singleton the option of doing the game by himself.

HBox

08-04-2006, 03:32 PM

I have to say, it hasn't even been an inning and a half, but I am enjoying this.

Snoogans

08-04-2006, 03:38 PM

ok, oneil was held up. But where is Michael Kay? Usually they have 3 guys, so where is the other one?

HBox

08-04-2006, 03:42 PM

Snoogans wrote: ok, oneil was held up. But where is Michael Kay? Usually they have 3 guys, so where is the other one?   Nobody wants Michael Kay. We all should take his absence and thank whichever creator we choose to worship. It is not to be questioned.Seriously though, he doesn't do every road trip and this game is in Baltimore. He wasn't available at the last minute. And he missed the last two games of the Toronto series in Ny for some reason too. i suspect he is a pussy who couldn't handle the heat, but then again, I don't like him.

Snoogans

08-04-2006, 03:46 PM

I will say Singleton is doin a pretty good job of filling and doing this shit all alone. What happens when other people are there that makes him awful?

HBox

08-04-2006, 03:51 PM

Snoogans wrote: I will say Singleton is doin a pretty good job of filling and doing this shit all alone. What happens when other people are there that makes him awful?   He has to concentrate fully on the game at all times and doesn't have time to think about other shit or stupid, meaningless stories from his playing days that he's already told hundreds of times.I'd say YES should do the single announcer thing permamnently, but no one wants to spend 3 hours alone with Michael Kay on a regular basis.

Tenbatsuzen

08-04-2006, 03:55 PM

They don't ALWAYS have three guys. It's either Kaat and Murcer, or Kaat/Kay/Murcer, or Leiter/Kay/Murcer, or Singleton, or some mutation of all of them. Probably the way it works out is that all of them do a set number of away series, and a set number of home series, with O'Neill and Leiter doing the least work of all of them, because they have the least amount of experience, seniority, and the most money. Kay has his radio show responsibilities, and I'm not sure how he does his show when he has a game that night (I can't get 1050, so I dunno if they do remotes from the Stadium or not), but I'm sure that this time of year, they probably schedule vacations and other stuff to coincide with the schedule of who is announcing games. I really have to pay more attention to how they schedule it....

Tenbatsuzen

08-04-2006, 03:56 PM

HBox wrote: I'd say YES should do the single announcer thing permamnently, but no one wants to spend 3 hours alone with Michael Kay on a regular basis.   That would explain why ESPN radio is getting trounced in that time slot

Tenbatsuzen

08-04-2006, 04:30 PM

HBox requested a clarification. <img width="300" height="100" border="0" src="http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/683/ttan2ci5.jpg" />

East Side Dave

08-04-2006, 06:55 PM

Yankee Plane sails again over the Championship---Soon to have----27-Skies.   It's fun, isn't it, Yankee fans? Don't let them bring you down.     WE-----Yankee Fans---ARE---ELITE---Humans.....bye, spoon

Tenbatsuzen

08-04-2006, 07:04 PM

East Side Dave wrote: Yankee Plane sails again over the Championship---Soon to have----27-Skies. It's fun, isn't it, Yankee fans? Don't let them bring you down. WE-----Yankee Fans---ARE---ELITE---Humans.....bye, spoon   Do we get Continental One Pass Miles on Yankee Plane?

Don Stugots

08-04-2006, 07:09 PM

thanks dave for making me laugh after a really rough week.  btw, regina thought you were really professional when speaking with fez and very nice.  she also thought something was wrong with your eyebrow.  go figure.

HBox

08-04-2006, 08:13 PM

Don Stugots

08-05-2006, 06:01 AM

HBox wrote: <img src="http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7872/haydenyankeebw9.gif" border="0" /> i like it even more now with the little bit of booty shake on it.

HBox

08-05-2006, 11:48 AM

<a href="http://firejoemorgan.blogspot.com/2006/08/idea-that-announcer-can-jinx-perfect.html" target="_blank">As if you needed another reason to hate Michael Kay.</a>If you listen tot he audio, listen all the way to the end for one of the most inappropriate comments ever, followed by maybe the most awkward silence ever, that isn't mentioned in the article. <a href="http://firejoemorgan.blogspot.com/2006/08/idea-that-announcer-can-jinx-perfect.html" target="_blank"></a>

Bulldogcakes

08-05-2006, 11:57 AM

Why this man is the face of the franchise in the broadcast booth is beyond me. He gives new meaning to the word "anchor" but not in a way he'd like.If there is a God Michael, he would say "THOU SUCKETH" 

This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 8-5-06 @ 3:59 PM

JimBeam

08-05-2006, 12:04 PM

Yeah he seemed to have a lot to say about the " etiquette " of Buck Showwalter last year when he didnt remove his starters from a game late in the season.I guess etiquette only counts when it suits his purposes.

Tenbatsuzen

08-05-2006, 12:33 PM

You know, if Mel Gibson can lose his career for a statement like "fucking Jews", I suggest we contact the Jewish Anti-Defamation League. Wait, Kay's jewish, isn't he.

Tenbatsuzen

08-05-2006, 12:35 PM

BTW, hasn't Kay "jinxed" TWO no-hitters this year? I seem to remember a few instances earlier in this thread of telling him to STFU.  EDIT: Yes.  Wang's game, and Mussina, who was perfect through 3.2 before Kay starts yammering about it.  

This message was edited by Tenbatsuzen on 8-5-06 @ 4:41 PM

Don Stugots

08-05-2006, 12:41 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: BTW, hasn't Kay "jinxed" TWO no-hitters this year?  I seem to remember a few instances earlier in this thread of telling him to STFU.  i feel like that everyday with him.

Tenbatsuzen

08-05-2006, 12:45 PM

oh god no please no  Announcer: "Aaaaand he's OK!"  *everyone cheers* Sorry.  Bad flashback to Toronto three years ago.  Same type of play, wasn't it?  Jeter sliding into third?   

This message was edited by Tenbatsuzen on 8-5-06 @ 4:49 PM

Tenbatsuzen

08-05-2006, 12:50 PM

BTW, I was thinking of going down to Balmer tomorrow for the third game.  My only hesistation is that the traffic on the way home would be killer.  (Beach traffic from both Ocean City MD and South Jersey) Opinions?

HBox

08-05-2006, 12:59 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: oh god no please no Announcer: "Aaaaand he's OK!" *everyone cheers* Sorry. Bad flashback to Toronto three years ago. Same type of play, wasn't it? Jeter sliding into third? 

This message was edited by Tenbatsuzen on 8-5-06 @ 4:49 PM  Not quite the same. Toronto's catcher was covering third and Jeter shoulder hit one of his leg guards head on.

cougarjake13

08-05-2006, 01:01 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: BTW, I was thinking of going down to Balmer tomorrow for the third game.  My only hesistation is that the traffic on the way home would be killer.  (Beach traffic from both Ocean City MD and South Jersey) Opinions?  camden yards is a nice park but i think you're right .. the traffic home would be horrendous

Bulldogcakes

08-05-2006, 03:36 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: You know, if Mel Gibson can lose his career for a statement like "fucking Jews", I suggest we contact the Jewish Anti-Defamation League. Wait, Kay's jewish, isn't he.  Half Jewish, his mom's Italian. Actually if your Dad is Jewish, you're not. It only counts if your Mom is Jewish. Having a Jewish dad doesn't make you Jewish. <blockquote />

Bulldogcakes

08-05-2006, 03:39 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: BTW, I was thinking of going down to Balmer tomorrow for the third game. My only hesistation is that the traffic on the way home would be killer. (Beach traffic from both Ocean City MD and South Jersey) Opinions?  Its Sunday. Who cares. You have something better to do on a Sunday than a trip to the ballpark? Bring a favorite CD or one you've been meaning to listen to. By the time its over, you're almost home. <blockquote />

Bulldogcakes

08-05-2006, 03:41 PM

Bullshit loss today. The fucking shadows were horrendous, and this clown who cant get anyone out was making top hitters like Jeter, Damon, Abreau, and A-Rod look like idiots today flailing at pitches they obviously couldn't see. Just a bullshit game. Moose deserved better.

badorties

08-06-2006, 06:07 AM

from yesterday's game ...Jason Giambi shows Orioles second-baseman Brian Roberts what he thinks of the shift after Roberts stopped a ground ball in shallow right field.<img height="486" src="http://blognyc.net/images/giambi-003.jpg" width="648" border="0" /><img height="486" src="http://blognyc.net/images/giambi-002.jpg" width="648" border="0" />

Tenbatsuzen

08-06-2006, 07:29 AM

Brilliant!  Was never a big fan of Giambi, but I've been warming up to him as of late. Now, get an MP3 of Jeter telling Varitek "I can smell your mom's cunt" during an at-bat.

Don Stugots

08-06-2006, 09:21 AM

<hr color="cococo" align="left">Tenbatsuzen wrote: Brilliant! Was never a big fan of Giambi, but I've been warming up to him as of late. Now, get an MP3 of Jeter telling Varitek "I can smell your mom's cunt" during an at-bat. <hr color="cococo" align="left">

i always like Giambi. i love the middle finger too. nice touch. if anyone gets the Jeter clip send it over and i will make it my ring tone.

Tenbatsuzen

08-06-2006, 11:25 AM

Be still my heart... is Wright actually pitching... efficiently?  Is there a chance he can pitch 8 innings?

Tenbatsuzen

08-06-2006, 03:19 PM

The Bosox lost, increasing the Yankees lead to two games. Off day tomorrow for the Yankees.  And they STILL have two games in hand over the red sox. THe Yankees go to the Windy Cindy, while the BoSox go to KC.

Bulldogcakes

08-06-2006, 04:08 PM

3 in the loss, baby.Yanks face Chisox, Boston faces KC. Thats not a good way to extend your lead, so we'll hope to keep it status quo for a little while. I love the way the Yanks are playing right now. Starters are solid, bullpen is solid, and the lineup is running efficiently with Abreau. Cano comes back Tuesday, which will make the lineup even deeper. Tuesday's LineupDamonJeterAbreauA-RodGiambiPosadaCanoWilliams Cabrera  Not an out in the lineup

HBox

08-06-2006, 04:28 PM

This is, by far, the toughest stretch for the Yankees this season. No games off until August 28th. In the meantime, here is their schedule:3 at the White Sox, 4 home vs. the Angels, 3 home vs. Baltimore, 5 at Boston, 3 at Seattle, 3 at the Angels, finally a day off, 3 home vs. Detroit, 3 home vs. Minnesota.And for that series at Boston it's 5 games in 4 days. Which means unless there is some fancy rotation juggling a sixth starter, likely Ponson, will start vs. Boston. If there is some juggling, Ponson will start vs. Baltimore. Not good either way, either a start at Boston or a start vs. his old team which I doubt likes him very much. At least if he starts against the Orioles he will pitch against them in Baltimore.Nothing is decided yet people.

Tenbatsuzen

08-06-2006, 04:30 PM

HBox wrote: Nothing is decided yet people.    I SAID NOTHING!

A.J.

08-07-2006, 04:57 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  Now, get an MP3 of Jeter telling Varitek "I can smell your mom's cunt" during an at-bat. And would Multiple Jeter then blow a load in Tek's hair?

Don Stugots

08-07-2006, 11:11 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  HBox wrote: Nothing is decided yet people.    I SAID NOTHING!  me either.  its still a long way till the playoffs and a 2 game lead is nothing.

Bulldogcakes

08-07-2006, 02:07 PM

HBox wrote: This is, by far, the toughest stretch for the Yankees this season. No games off until August 28th. In the meantime, here is their schedule:3 at the White Sox, 4 home vs. the Angels, 3 home vs. Baltimore, 5 at Boston, 3 at Seattle, 3 at the Angels, finally a day off, 3 home vs. Detroit, 3 home vs. Minnesota.And for that series at Boston it's 5 games in 4 days. Which means unless there is some fancy rotation juggling a sixth starter, likely Ponson, will start vs. Boston. If there is some juggling, Ponson will start vs. Baltimore. Not good either way, either a start at Boston or a start vs. his old team which I doubt likes him very much. At least if he starts against the Orioles he will pitch against them in Baltimore.Nothing is decided yet people.  True, but the Bosox just lost 2 of 3 to the Devil Rays and they had Beckett and Schilling pitching. They are springing leaks big time in the starters and bullpen. And the White Sox  have been playing like shit since the All-Star break. About the 5 in 4 in Boston, its true, we may have to pitch Ponson. The Red Sox will probabaly call one (or maybe two) pitchers up from AAA to start, and ask Snoogans about those guys. And the problem the Yanks have had in recent years with the Angels is they would run all over the outfielders. Thats not going to happen with Cabrera and Abreau out there, and Damon gets to more balls than Bernie did. Plus the Angels lead the league in errors. They dont scare me anymore. THe Twins, are another story.  THeres no doubt thats a tough stretch, maybe the toughest of the season, but in all honestly I think the Yanks are better than every one of those team. And the schedule in September gets VERY easy.A ton of games vs Tampa Bay, The O's and even another one vs the Royals.   <blockquote />

A.J.

08-08-2006, 03:25 AM

Bulldogcakes wrote:  and Damon gets to more balls than Bernie did. <img height="142" src="http://www.geocities.com/dorra18/beavis_and_butthead_1_small.jpg" width="189" border="0" />

TheGameHHH

08-08-2006, 04:36 PM

It's early but Wang's sinkers aren't getting down tonight, this could be bad.

HBox

08-08-2006, 06:43 PM

I missed a chunk of this game, but has the ump been this bad all game? I've seen four obvious middle of the plate strikes called balls so far.

TheGameHHH

08-08-2006, 06:53 PM

not only the dude behind the plate, but the umps in the field have been terrible too. The ump at 3rd blew a call early in the game where somebody from the sox hit a triple but he was called out at 3rd on a tough call, and then the yanks got called out at first on a double play as the ump went to give the safe sign he then stopped and called him out instead.

Tenbatsuzen

08-08-2006, 06:56 PM

HBox wrote: I missed a chunk of this game, but has the ump been this bad all game? I've seen four obvious middle of the plate strikes called balls so far.    The entire crew has been bad.  A white sox baserunner was called out on a great throw by Cano, but he was clearly safe on replays. Can KC hold on?  Please?

Fallon

08-08-2006, 08:24 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Can KC hold on? Please?   They did. <img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/wallbash.gif" />

TheGameHHH

08-08-2006, 08:29 PM

but the yanks didn't.

Tenbatsuzen

08-09-2006, 04:13 PM

There is a really annoying, loudmouth Yankee fan right by the crowd mics on the YES broadcast.

Don Stugots

08-09-2006, 04:34 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: There is a really annoying, loudmouth Yankee fan right by the crowd mics on the YES broadcast.  no reason to call me names.

Tenbatsuzen

08-09-2006, 04:43 PM

HBox and I have discovered that it's a lot more enjoyable to listen to Sterling if you can imagine him tossing out racial epithets with the same gusto as his home run calls.

Don Stugots

08-09-2006, 04:46 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: HBox and I have discovered that it's a lot more enjoyable to listen to Sterling if you can imagine him tossing out racial epithets with the same gusto as his home run calls.  are you two a couple now?  thats sweet.  dont let Hbox get fresh with you until he gives you a ring.

zildjian361

08-09-2006, 05:38 PM

This kid is the real deal Melky  he needs a tighter unifom TOP NO HOMO<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/wink.gif" border="0" />

Tenbatsuzen

08-09-2006, 06:48 PM

I know some people don't like Paul O'Neill as a commentator, but this spoke volumes: While Michael Kay is YAMMERING about Randy's no-hit bid, he starts interrogating Leiter and O'Neill about their no-hit experiences. Kay: "So, Paul, when do the players start talking about it?"O'Neill: (uncomfortable) "The players don't talk about it.  I think the only people who are talking about it are in this booth."

HBox

08-09-2006, 07:28 PM

i'd like to thank Bernie Williams for taking a few years off my heart, and I'll give Joe Torre an assist for putting him out there in the first place.Like Anthony after the Opie-Jimmy fight: holy shit.

spoon

08-09-2006, 07:36 PM

I wish sooo fucking bad Bernie dove and missed that ball allowing Anderson to score.  Other than that, the Sox lost that game in the 7th.  Fuck you Villone!  Take this ~~~~~

Tenbatsuzen

08-09-2006, 08:07 PM

Reasons why I love XM: Caught the end of the bosox-KC game... KC wins!  Nice. Three.

HBox

08-09-2006, 08:07 PM

The Royals just came back and beat the Red Sox, but it was so incredibly disconcerting because the announcers sounded like they couldn't care less. I had to take a second to take in what I was hearing, because what was being said absolutely did not match how it was being said.EDIT:Not to mention after 3/4 of the inning being called by one guy, some other guy all of a sudden pops up and starts commenting, and he hadn't spoke all fucking inning. And now Mike Sweeney is talking about how this is like a World Series game. This was an odd 20 minutes. 

This message was edited by HBox on 8-10-06 @ 12:09 AM

RingWraith

08-09-2006, 08:08 PM

WHEW!I think this is the second time the Yanks had a big lead, and in the end, won by one run.  The other one I remember was when they were at Texas.  These "almost comebacks" remind me of NBA games when a team down 10 or 15 points all of a sudden gets momentum and goes on a 10-0 run.  I hate when that happens against any of my teams.Oh well.

Tenbatsuzen

08-09-2006, 08:13 PM

HBox wrote: The Royals just came back and beat the Red Sox, but it was so incredibly disconcerting because the announcers sounded like they couldn't care less. I had to take a second to take in what I was hearing, because what was being said absolutely did not match how it was being said.     You're exactly right.  He was totally non-plussed when he tried to score from third on the shallow fly ball, and I was thinking, by the tone of his voice, that he was a dead duck. The second play, to win the game, was ridiculous.  It was like we were hearing the away team announcers. I guess there's a reason why they work in Kansas City. If I had to call Royals games though, I'd be pretty depressed too.

TheGameHHH

08-09-2006, 08:13 PM

3 games! Way to make me sweat tonight.

Fallon

08-09-2006, 08:18 PM

Jesus. Sox can't be losing to teams like this. We need a good showing against the O's and Tigers before the HUGE five game series at Fenway.

DirtyJersey

08-10-2006, 04:37 PM

Fallon wrote: Jesus. Sox can't be losing to teams like this. We need a good showing against the O's and Tigers before the HUGE five game series at Fenway. Thats how we felt last year when the stupid Devil Rays were kicking our ass left and right. I hate when these shitty teams get the better of a good team but I guess thats baseball.

Bulldogcakes

08-10-2006, 04:39 PM

Who would have thought that with the Yanks playing the Chisox and Boston playing KC that the Yanks would increase their lead?

HBox

08-10-2006, 06:10 PM

I didn't think these strike zones could get worse this series, but tonight they have. This series has been an umpiring abortion.

spoon

08-10-2006, 08:31 PM

Boston is playing as worse than the Jays right now.  It's incredible how an overhaul twice a year can fill holes for a team.Now who do you think is the front runner for the AL Cy?  HalladaySantanaSchillingVerlanderWangMussinaBeckettI'd say it's wide open since Lirano drops out due to injury.  Can Verlander win it as another fucking stellar rookie?  Or will one of the more recent winners take control (Santana and Halladay)?  One thing I do know is that two pitchers from NY and Boston will hurt both their chances.  The same thing should help Santana's case.

spoon

08-10-2006, 08:33 PM

How about MVP?  I know it's early but it's fun to debate this shit.

HBox

08-10-2006, 08:42 PM

spoon wrote: Boston is playing as worse than the Jays right now. It's incredible how an overhaul twice a year can fill holes for a team.Now who do you think is the front runner for the AL Cy? HalladaySantanaSchillingVerlanderWangMussinaBeckettI'd say it's wide open since Lirano drops out due to injury. Can Verlander win it as another fucking stellar rookie? Or will one of the more recent winners take control (Santana and Halladay)? One thing I do know is that two pitchers from NY and Boston will hurt both their chances. The same thing should help Santana's case.   First of all, why is Beckett up there? Have you looked at his stats?I'd say it Halladay's to lose right now. Verlander might be able to win it, but he hasn't pitched as much innings as the rest and has already started coming down with a tired arm. I doubt he will be able to keep it up but if he does, has the whole Tigers story which can only help him.As for MVP, who knows at this point. Someone can still put together a hot September to steal it.

spoon

08-10-2006, 08:51 PM

Hey he'd never get a vote from me this year with his era and the hrs he allows, but I promise you he'll get votes.  I think it's really a three man race, Verlander, Halladay and Santana.  Right now I really don't think anyone has a leg up and it would be one of the closest calls in AL Cy history.  As for Verlander, it's not like he's off the pace at all.  I doubt they'll look at his innings pitched as a detraction unless Halladay and Santana crush his numbers.  And to tell the truth, both aren't that far ahead as Halladay hasn't been the bulldog he normally is.  In fact, look at the amount of hits he's given up.  It has been a good year, but not even close to his best.  He's been pretty hitable this year.

HBox

08-10-2006, 08:54 PM

bernie Williams up to pinch hit, game over.Torre needs to get over his Bernie Fetish.EDIT: wow. i'm glad to look like an ass here.

This message was edited by HBox on 8-11-06 @ 12:54 AM

spoon

08-10-2006, 09:03 PM

Didn't matter but why pinch hit for Wilson?

HBox

08-10-2006, 09:12 PM

Because Joe Torre has a Bernie Willaims fetish. This wasn't as bad putting in Bernie as a fucking defensive replacement last night, losing the DH in the process and then watching him turn a routine fly ball into a single. Damon had to run farther tonight to catch a hard line drive tonight with a bad groin and he got it. Bernie can't field anymore, and Joe Torre is the last one figuring this out.As for tonight, Bernie and Wilson are comparable hitters. However, Bernie hadn't had a hit all season pinch hitting before tonight and in this case you were asking him after sitting down all night to come in and face a guy who can get it up to 100MPH, and Wilson had hit a double his last at bat. It makes no sense and Torre is extremely lucky it worked out, if you can even say it did. Maybe Wilson could ahve done more. Who knows. It still amde no fucking sense. The only way it MIGHT have is if Jenks was a lefty. Bernie can still hit lefties well. But so can Wilson.

spoon

08-10-2006, 09:24 PM

Your biggest fear I think this year has to be if your bullpen can survive.  Mo is another year older and he abuses Proctor and Mo.  Hell, he's even been using Villone in garbage time and what the fuck for?  Torre has always been a bullpen killer and I just don't understand it. 

TheGameHHH

08-10-2006, 09:45 PM

Cy- HalladayMVP- Papi

Bulldogcakes

08-11-2006, 02:40 PM

spoon wrote:I'd say it's wide open since Lirano drops out due to injury. Can Verlander win it as another fucking stellar rookie?   I think most writers will give Rookie of the Year to one of them. And let them do it again before they give them a Cy Young. I think this year its pretty clear the two best rookies in the AL were both pitchers. Other than that, I agree its wide open. All of them have good #s. Onen thing that may give a pitcher an edge is if his team makes it to the post season, which could narrow it down some.  <blockquote />

Bulldogcakes

08-11-2006, 02:44 PM

For those of you still lighting candles for Carl Pavano<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2546128 " target="_self" title="Pavano makes first rehab start since surgery ">Pavano makes first rehab start since surgery </a>TAMPA, Fla. -- <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nyy">New York Yankees</a> pitcher <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5945">Carl Pavano</a> threw 2
2/3 innings Thursday night in his first minor league rehabilitation
start since surgery in May for a bone chip above his right elbow. Pitching for Class A Tampa against the Daytona Cubs, Pavano
allowed three runs, five hits, one intentional walk, striking out
one. The right-hander has not pitched in the major leagues since
June 27, 2005. "It's a step in the right direction," said Pavano

spoon

08-11-2006, 03:51 PM

The fucking Angels own the yanks.  Finally someone will cool down the 200 million dollar all-star team.

spoon

08-11-2006, 03:52 PM

Yet the Black Sox were a hit away from a sweep last series too.  Plant the seed of doubt.

HBox

08-11-2006, 03:54 PM

spoon wrote: Yet the Black Sox were a hit away from a sweep last series too. Plant the seed of doubt.  Or two hits from being swept, however you want to look at it.

Bulldogcakes

08-11-2006, 04:03 PM

spoon wrote: Yet the Black Sox were a hit away from a sweep last series too. Plant the seed of doubt. And the Yankees were 3 outs away (with Mo on the mound) from taking two out of three. Throw in an A-Rod double play last night and they could have swept.  But hey, thats Baseball. <blockquote />

HBox

08-11-2006, 04:32 PM

Ponson in. First of all: <img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/flush.gif" /> Second of all, on the basis of the his first two starts Torre is showing a very short leash with Lidle which I don't understand. He hadn't had a start go less than 6 innings for motnhs before being traded. Not that I was expecting that tonight, but I don't know why Lidle isn't out there for the 5th. He hasn't been impressive but with the way the bullpen is worked recently you have to try, not that Torre is ever fucking concerned with that. <img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/mad.gif" />Ponson looks OK with horrible luck so far.

spoon

08-11-2006, 07:57 PM

Bulldogcakes wrote:  spoon wrote: Yet the Black Sox were a hit away from a sweep last series too. Plant the seed of doubt.  And the Yankees were 3 outs away (with Mo on the mound) from taking two out of three. Throw in an A-Rod double play last night and they could have swept.  But hey, thats Baseball.  Shut up you two!  I'm trying to plant a seed of doubt here!  So far so good.  Now let's make Wright look wrong and Wang, well look wrong too!  Damn I'm a hack.

This message was edited by spoon on 8-11-06 @ 11:58 PM

HeyGuy

08-11-2006, 10:49 PM

Is it just me or does Sal Fasano look like a cop from the late 70's or early 80's with that stache? He looks like he was on Hill Street Blue. It makes me sick I want to slap the shit out of him.Oh I am a yanks fan. Go yanks!!!!!

Tenbatsuzen

08-12-2006, 12:59 PM

HBox wrote: Ponson in. First of all: <img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/flush.gif" /> Second of all, on the basis of the his first two starts Torre is showing a very short leash with Lidle which I don't understand. He hadn't had a start go less than 6 innings for motnhs before being traded. Not that I was expecting that tonight, but I don't know why Lidle isn't out there for the 5th. He hasn't been impressive but with the way the bullpen is worked recently you have to try, not that Torre is ever fucking concerned with that. <img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/mad.gif" />    The explanation: Lidle had the shits, which is why he was so bad last night and why he got pulled. So yeah, blowing up the bullpen is one thing, but so is a pitcher collapsing with the back of his pants matching the color of the pitching mound.

Tenbatsuzen

08-12-2006, 01:01 PM

CampoNJ wrote: Is it just me or does Sal Fasano look like a cop from the late 70's or early 80's with that stache? He looks like he was on Hill Street Blue. It makes me sick I want to slap the shit out of him.Oh I am a yanks fan. Go yanks!!!!!   Don't you NEVER mock Sal Fasano!!

HeyGuy

08-13-2006, 10:19 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  CampoNJ wrote: Is it just me or does Sal Fasano look like a cop from the late 70's or early 80's with that stache? He looks like he was on Hill Street Blue. It makes me sick I want to slap the shit out of him.Oh I am a yanks fan. Go yanks!!!!!   Don't you NEVER mock Sal Fasano!!  Oh by the way, hes not even good! waste of a roster spot

Don Stugots

08-13-2006, 10:28 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  CampoNJ wrote: Is it just me or does Sal Fasano look like a cop from the late 70's or early 80's with that stache? He looks like he was on Hill Street Blue. It makes me sick I want to slap the shit out of him.Oh I am a yanks fan. Go yanks!!!!!   Don't you NEVER mock Sal Fasano!!  agreed.  he is a good man.  i am proud to be one of the 10s of Sal Pals here in the greater NYC area.

TheGameHHH

08-13-2006, 11:24 AM

I think I need to go to more yankees games, I'm 8-1 this season when I go. I'm pretty sure they need me as a good luck charm.

Tenbatsuzen

08-13-2006, 11:47 AM

TheGameHHH wrote: I think I need to go to more yankees games, I'm 8-1 this season when I go. I'm pretty sure they need me as a good luck charm.    And now that you've said that, Jeter will have a season-ending injury next time you go.

TheGameHHH

08-13-2006, 12:00 PM

Tenbats, don't laugh. A teacher I work with has gone to 3 games this season. One when Sheff went down, one where Matsui got injured, and the third game she went to A-rod had a stomach virus. I banned her from attending any other games this season.

Tenbatsuzen

08-13-2006, 12:14 PM

TheGameHHH wrote: Tenbats, don't laugh. A teacher I work with has gone to 3 games this season. One when Sheff went down, one where Matsui got injured, and the third game she went to A-rod had a stomach virus. I banned her from attending any other games this season.    Christ.  Typhoid Mary in Pinstripes.

Bulldogcakes

08-13-2006, 01:18 PM

When the Angels hit a leadoff HR today, I distinctly heard Sterling refer to him as "Shawn Figgers"

Tenbatsuzen

08-13-2006, 01:35 PM

Bulldogcakes wrote: When the Angels hit a leadoff HR today, I distinctly heard Sterling refer to him as "Shawn Figgers"    I think you're reaching for something, and I'm not gonna give it to you.

Fallon

08-13-2006, 01:59 PM

Tenbatsuzen

08-14-2006, 04:01 PM

The cycle is complete, Sterling just came up with a catchphrase for Jeter. "Oh captain, my captain." DIE IN A FIRE

spoon

08-14-2006, 04:07 PM

I've heard both he and Kay use that before.

TheGameHHH

08-14-2006, 04:30 PM

Yea, I've heard Kay and Sterling use it before. I used to say it until I heard both of them use it, now when I hear it I want to jam a pencil into my eye.

Tenbatsuzen

08-14-2006, 04:54 PM

The Yankees COO is on (Lom someone?).  He sounds like Woody Allen. Groundbreaking on the House That Jeter Built is in a few days.

Don Stugots

08-14-2006, 05:12 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: The Yankees COO is on (Lom someone?).  He sounds like Woody Allen. Groundbreaking on the House That Jeter Built is in a few days.  i will never go to another yankee game again.

Tenbatsuzen

08-14-2006, 05:21 PM

STUGOTS1 wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: The Yankees COO is on (Lom someone?). He sounds like Woody Allen. Groundbreaking on the House That Jeter Built is in a few days. i will never go to another yankee game again.    What?  Now what? Nice productive at-bat by A-Rod.  It wasn't a grand slam, but I'll take it at this point.

HBox

08-14-2006, 05:23 PM

Whether it be Abreu, Torre or some other coach, I want to strangle whoever called for Abreu to bunt.

Don Stugots

08-14-2006, 05:23 PM

matty, to me a new yankee stadium is not needed.  update this one.  there is too much history there, same for the mets.  i am a stickler for historic sites.  sorry but i dont think we need a new stadium or another shopping center in downtown brooklyn.

Tenbatsuzen

08-14-2006, 05:28 PM

STUGOTS1 wrote: matty, to me a new yankee stadium is not needed. update this one. there is too much history there, same for the mets. i am a stickler for historic sites. sorry but i dont think we need a new stadium or another shopping center in downtown brooklyn.    I agree with you that Yankee Stadium has a lot of "history".  But New Yankee Stadium is basically going to look EXACTLY THE SAME from the inside with tons and tons more amenities. I guarantee you that the stadium you'll see on TV now in 2006 will look exactly the same when you watch the game in 2010. I'm hesistant to change the stadium, but they are keeping the flavor, general location, and a lot of things intact.  They're just building a new joint.  I like that they are keeping the tradition - just updating it.  As for building the New Mets Stadium, you're nuts.  Shea has to go.  It's an awful ballpark, even with all the retro renovations they did.

Tenbatsuzen

08-14-2006, 05:29 PM

HBox wrote: Whether it be Abreu, Torre or some other coach, I want to strangle whoever called for Abreu to bunt.    I want to strangle Waldman for talking about A-Rod being "sexy" just now. Cancerous Cougar.  ECCCCCCHHHH

Don Stugots

08-14-2006, 05:35 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  STUGOTS1 wrote: matty, to me a new yankee stadium is not needed. update this one. there is too much history there, same for the mets. i am a stickler for historic sites. sorry but i dont think we need a new stadium or another shopping center in downtown brooklyn.     I agree with you that Yankee Stadium has a lot of "history".  But New Yankee Stadium is basically going to look EXACTLY THE SAME from the inside with tons and tons more amenities. I guarantee you that the stadium you'll see on TV now in 2006 will look exactly the same when you watch the game in 2010. I'm hesistant to change the stadium, but they are keeping the flavor, general location, and a lot of things intact.  They're just building a new joint.  I like that they are keeping the tradition - just updating it.  As for building the New Mets Stadium, you're nuts.  Shea has to go.  It's an awful ballpark, even with all the retro renovations they did.   shea can be renovated and updated.  Yankee stadium will be in the general area but it is not the house that ruth built.  it is not the same if it is around the corner.  shea as well.  the beatles played there, the pope held mass there.  its not the same.

HBox

08-14-2006, 05:42 PM

STUGOTS1 wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: STUGOTS1 wrote: matty, to me a new yankee stadium is not needed. update this one. there is too much history there, same for the mets. i am a stickler for historic sites. sorry but i dont think we need a new stadium or another shopping center in downtown brooklyn. I agree with you that Yankee Stadium has a lot of "history". But New Yankee Stadium is basically going to look EXACTLY THE SAME from the inside with tons and tons more amenities. I guarantee you that the stadium you'll see on TV now in 2006 will look exactly the same when you watch the game in 2010. I'm hesistant to change the stadium, but they are keeping the flavor, general location, and a lot of things intact. They're just building a new joint. I like that they are keeping the tradition - just updating it. As for building the New Mets Stadium, you're nuts. Shea has to go. It's an awful ballpark, even with all the retro renovations they did. <strike>shea can be renovated and updated. Yankee stadium will be in the general area but it is not the house that ruth built. it is not the same if it is around the corner. shea as well. the beatles played there, the pope held mass there. its not the same.</strike>THIS IS NOT WHAT I AM USED TO!!!!!!

Tenbatsuzen

08-14-2006, 05:45 PM

Hayden tries to tempt Stu into changing his mind... <img width="512" height="300" border="0" src="http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/9269/haydenpanettierebringitonallornothingzodcaps068rj2 .jpg" />

Don Stugots

08-14-2006, 05:47 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Hayden tries to tempt Stu into changing his mind... <img height="300" src="http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/9269/haydenpanettierebringitonallornothingzodcaps068rj2 .jpg" width="512" border="0" /> it worked, thanks

TheGameHHH

08-14-2006, 06:40 PM

i'll take a split with the Angels. Those guys scare the fuck out of me.

BoondockSaint

08-15-2006, 05:00 PM

Another nice play by A-Rod.And who said Abreu is scared of the wall?  He looked completely comfortable on that Tejada fly ball.

TheGameHHH

08-15-2006, 07:24 PM

big win tonight!

Tenbatsuzen

08-15-2006, 08:24 PM

Back to three.

spoon

08-15-2006, 08:30 PM

You mean a payroll of 300 mil?Or how many upgrades the yanks go out and buy per month and still can't wrap up the division?  God I hate them and the way MLB is fucking run.  It's no shock the yanks took control after picking up their replacements.

Tenbatsuzen

08-15-2006, 08:34 PM

spoon wrote: You mean a payroll of 300 mil?Or how many upgrades the yanks go out and buy per month and still can't wrap up the division? God I hate them and the way MLB is fucking run. It's no shock the yanks took control after picking up their replacements.    You're going back to THIS argument?  The Red Sox have just a hefty payroll.  And I don't know if you noticed or not, BUT TWO OF THEIR MAIN POWER HITTERS WHO MAKE UP A GOOD PORTION OF THAT PAYROLL HAVE BEEN OUT FOR MOST OF THE SEASON. The "payroll" that people like to yammer on and on about also includes salaries that the Yankees are still paying who are no longer on the team.

Tenbatsuzen

08-15-2006, 08:39 PM

Derek Jeter $20,600,000 Jason Giambi $20,428,572 Mike Mussina $19,000,000 Randy Johnson $16,000,000 Alex Rodriguez $15,000,000 Johnny Damon $13,000,000 Hideki Matsui $13,000,000 Gary Sheffield $13,000,000 Jorge Posada $12,000,000 Mariano Rivera $10,500,000 Carl Pavano $8,000,000 Jaret Wright $7,666,667 Kyle Farnsworth $5,416,667 Shawn Chacon $3,600,000 Javier Vazquez $3,000,000 Ron Villone $2,250,000 Octavio Dotel $2,000,000 Tanyon Sturtze $1,500,000 Bernie Williams $1,500,000 Aaron Small $1,200,000 Mike Myers $1,150,000 Miguel Cairo $1,000,000 Tony Womack $900,000 Kelly Stinnett $650,000 Robinson Cano $381,100 Bubba Crosby $354,250 Scott Proctor $353,675 Chien-Ming Wang $353,175 Andy Phillips $331,950 Wil Nieves $328,600 I count about 50 million dollars that has made very little contribution to the yankees this year.