2006 OFFICIAL MLB OFFSEASON DISCUSSION THREAD! [Archive] - Page 4

TheMojoPin

10-21-2006, 03:08 PM

FezPaul wrote: <table border="0"><tr class="faplay"><td><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/replytotopic.cfm/Forum/82/Topic/48762/currentpage/profile.php?id=170">Luis Gonzalez</a></td><td>Arizona Diamondbacks</td><td>LF</td><td>25-man</td><td>15.032</td><td>Greg Genske, Terry Bross</td><td>39</td><td>M</td></tr></table> He's old and expensive.A perfect fit for the Yankees.Imagine the warm reception he'd get for his first at bat in Yankee Stadium.He's an ex-juicer, too.Thanks for the strip, Gvac.  Even a conservative cartoon bird knows my pain.

Kevin

10-21-2006, 03:35 PM

Why is Suzen Waldmen doing pre game for fox?? Oh wait, that's Eric Byrnes.....

johnniewalker

10-21-2006, 03:54 PM

Kevin wrote: Why is Suzen Waldmen doing pre game for fox?? Oh wait, that's Eric Byrnes..... I totally had a mind blank.  I was watching the fucking scarlet knights.  Holy shit its Bob Seger!

kellermcgee21

10-21-2006, 04:56 PM

holy shit cardinals are up 4-1....please let reyes hold the lead

Bama

10-21-2006, 06:00 PM

Well it looks like the Tigers are gonna have to win this thing in 5.

johnniewalker

10-21-2006, 06:09 PM

Nice Mandissa in the stretch.

Kevin

10-21-2006, 06:46 PM

Fuck the Tigers and Jeff Daniels.

Gvac

10-21-2006, 06:48 PM

Get ready for a comeback!

Kevin

10-21-2006, 06:53 PM

Gvac wrote: Get ready for a comeback! A comeback to the sucky Tigers.........HA beat that!...... Sorry.......

Gvac

10-22-2006, 06:59 AM

I know that nobody else cares, but I'm very happy that the Reds have announced new uniforms for next season.  They haven't unveiled them yet, but they say they'll return to the classic all-red home caps and that the font used for the numbers and lettering is unlike anything used by any other club.  <img border="0" src="http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c34/Gvac/RedsHat.jpg" />

Don Stugots

10-22-2006, 07:03 AM

there is a world series this year?  i had no idea.

cougarjake13

10-22-2006, 11:13 AM

Gvac wrote: I know that nobody else cares, but I'm very happy that the Reds have announced new uniforms for next season.  They haven't unveiled them yet, but they say they'll return to the classic all-red home caps and that the font used for the numbers and lettering is unlike anything used by any other club.  <img src="http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c34/Gvac/RedsHat.jpg" border="0" />    that looks like the hat made by the company the franchisei love those hats the fabric that they use to make them is awesome and i ususally only like to wear fitted hats which they make

cougarjake13

10-22-2006, 11:14 AM

STUGOTS1 wrote: there is a world series this year?  i had no idea. shit i havent paid attention in so longwhen did the strike end ???

AppleBoy

10-22-2006, 04:07 PM

Mellencamp blows.  Play ball dammit!

Don Stugots

10-22-2006, 04:09 PM

cougarjake13 wrote: STUGOTS1 wrote: there is a world series this year? i had no idea. shit i havent paid attention in so longwhen did the strike end ???   wait, the strike ended?  how did that happen?

Bama

10-22-2006, 04:35 PM

Why isn't there a World Series thread?

crb1

10-22-2006, 04:50 PM

Gvac wrote: I know that nobody else cares, but I'm very happy that the Reds have announced new uniforms for next season.  They haven't unveiled them yet, but they say they'll return to the classic all-red home caps and that the font used for the numbers and lettering is unlike anything used by any other club.  Here's a look at the new logos (or at least what they have so far).<img src="http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y161/crb1/redsnewlogoslv9.jpg" border="0" />

Bulldogcakes

10-22-2006, 05:06 PM

Bama wrote: Why isn't there a World Series thread? I guess there's only a few of us watching. Kenny Rogers caught with an illegal substance? Fox is making a big deal about this. THey keep saying he had pine tar on his hand, it looked like dirt to me.  <blockquote />

Bulldogcakes

10-22-2006, 05:20 PM

Hey Mudo, Bowden sign Soriano yet? Remember at the trade deadline he turned down the available offers because he said he was going to sign him? He hasnt signed yet, has he. That fucking drunk Bowden should be fired. He turns down a chance to improve his team on the chance he might sign Soriano? Fucking amatuer.

Bama

10-22-2006, 06:02 PM

Yadier got hit in the balls on the HBP. Crazy bounce. That's why we love baseball.

AppleBoy

10-22-2006, 06:05 PM

Bulldogcakes wrote: THey keep saying he had pine tar on his hand, it looked like dirt to me.    Residual shite stain from having his thumb up his ass when he was with the Mets.

Bama

10-22-2006, 06:18 PM

Kenny Rogers1st 9 postseason games 20 1/3 innings = 20 ER 2006 post season 20 1/3 innings = 0 ER That is crazy! He still hasn't remembered that he's Kenny Rogers yet!

TheMojoPin

10-22-2006, 06:48 PM

Bama wrote: Why isn't there a World Series thread? How many posts have there actually been about this WS?

This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 10-22-06 @ 10:48 PM

Kevin

10-22-2006, 06:50 PM

Bama wrote: Kenny Rogers1st 9 postseason games 20 1/3 innings = 20 ER 2006 post season 20 1/3 innings = 0 ER That is crazy! He still hasn't remembered that he's Kenny Rogers yet!Roids. He will retire after this year. He said f it let me go out smoking.

Bama

10-22-2006, 07:03 PM

23 shutout innings! 27 is the postseason record

TheMojoPin

10-22-2006, 07:06 PM

So, Kenny Rogers...cheating or wipes with his hand?  YOU DECIDE:http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c70/knlevine/Pinetar2.jpghttp://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c70/knlevine/Pinetar1.jpg

Gvac

10-22-2006, 07:10 PM

It's very obvious that Rogers goes to the bill of his cap, the back, and the bill again before every pitch.  A routine, or something far more insidious?

Bama

10-22-2006, 07:19 PM

WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING.TODD JONES FUCKING SUCKS

Bama

10-22-2006, 07:21 PM

Good game! Tigers in 5.

HBox

10-22-2006, 11:20 PM

Uh oh. ESPN went back and looked and Rogers had the same whatever it is on his hand during Game 3 of the ALCS. And they put the pic right on the front page of ESPN.com so no one will miss it. And its top story is not of the game itself but of the incident, so no one will miss it. And I will post it here...... so no one will miss it. <img width="412" height="232" border="0" src="http://espn-ak.starwave.com/photo/2006/1023/mlb_rogers_hands_412.jpg" /> 

This message was edited by HBox on 10-23-06 @ 3:21 AM

Bama

10-22-2006, 11:31 PM

It was dirt. Or he wipes with his hand. Why is ESPN trying to ruin this thing? Kenny Rogers better hope TO starts acting like TO soon or this is all we're gonna hear on ESPN for two days.

This message was edited by Bama on 10-23-06 @ 6:30 PM

Doctor Z

10-22-2006, 11:33 PM

I knew Kenny Rogers couldn't be good in the playoffs without cheating.

Bulldogcakes

10-23-2006, 02:26 AM

They made him wash his hands after the 1st inning, and he pitched a shutout the rest of the game. Non story. But nice try by Fox to get some attention for this WS.

johnniewalker

10-23-2006, 09:57 AM

Doctor_Z wrote: I knew Kenny Rogers couldn't be good in the playoffs without cheating.   I agree doctor z but does it really have to be a joke.

HBox

10-24-2006, 01:56 PM

<a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15402869/" target="_blank">Now the Cards say he was also scuffing the ball and they collected some balls as proof.</a>

kellermcgee21

10-24-2006, 07:11 PM

As a cardinals fan the rogers story is a non issue at this point.  If the cardinals had him inspected in the 1st inning and they threw him out then it would be more of a story.  Since they did nothing until the second inning and didn't have the umps search him at all they can't really complain about it now.  That being said I don't believe it was dirt and its really suspect when they find the same marks in 2 of his previous starts in the playoffs.  Whatever Go Cardinals!!!

johnniewalker

10-24-2006, 07:22 PM

Alright this series makes no sense at all.  Baseball prediction is dead to me.

Bama

10-24-2006, 08:24 PM

Tigers in 6.

Kevin

10-24-2006, 09:54 PM

Bama wrote: Tigers in 6. Your running out of games.

Bama

10-25-2006, 06:33 PM

I still say Tigers in 6.

Fezticle98

10-26-2006, 12:44 PM

Did anyone see Omar Vizquel on ESPNNews? Worst suit ever.

TheMojoPin

10-26-2006, 03:03 PM

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqIj4x9SzhQ" target="_blank">Larry Bowa is very thoughtful with his educational hand gestures.</a>

Bulldogcakes

10-26-2006, 03:08 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqIj4x9SzhQ">Larry Bowa is very thoughtful with his educational hand gestures.</a> I have no problem with having a few guys like that on a team. Guys with an "Us against the world" mentality. Especially after watching the Yanks play the ALDS like their limos were double parked.  <blockquote />

cougarjake13

10-26-2006, 05:06 PM

fezticle98 wrote: Did anyone see Omar Vizquel on ESPNNews? Worst suit ever. and his commentary was even worse

cougarjake13

10-26-2006, 05:17 PM

they just showed that stupid scooter thing with jeff suppanlike how many kids are watching baseball on a thursday night at 9 17 pm

Kevin

10-26-2006, 08:05 PM

Tigers in 7 Bama?

Bama

10-26-2006, 08:05 PM

Tigers in seven.

Kevin

10-26-2006, 08:08 PM

Bama wrote: Tigers in seven. Switching from numbers to letters to try to change the Tigers luck Bama?

This message was edited by Kevin on 10-27-06 @ 12:09 AM

johnniewalker

10-26-2006, 08:10 PM

Cards deserved this one too.  It could have been more than a one run lead.  ESPN should hold their experts accountable for this postseason.  This is a disaster.  I want Gammons out, Eric Byrnes gone, and vernon wells axed.

Bama

10-26-2006, 09:37 PM

I don't even watch the Fox pregame anymore. It's absolute garbage. I TIVO the game and fast forward. You can count on it taking an hour for them to finish embarrasing themselves on national TV. Current players should not be allowed back on TV if they fail. It's embarrasing. Eric Byrnes is probably drunk half the time.

cougarjake13

10-27-2006, 06:25 AM

what makes them think that real fans want to hear anything from this jocksi couldnt care less what these guys have to say and its usually the same old rheteric that the reg broadcasters are saying so they aint adding nothing

kellermcgee21

10-27-2006, 03:32 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqIj4x9SzhQ" target="_blank">Larry Bowa is very thoughtful with his educational hand gestures.</a> If I was one of those coaches standing there I would have been cracking up....that clip was great.

Gvac

10-27-2006, 03:41 PM

I really hope Detroit wins tonight.  Even if the Cards win the Series I don't want it to be in front of their fans.  Next to the Dodgers there's no team I despise more than St. Louis.

FezPaul

10-27-2006, 03:46 PM

Gvac wrote: I really hope Detroit wins tonight.  Even if the Cards win the Series I don't want it to be in front of their fans.  Next to the Dodgers there's no team I despise more than St. Louis. All Reds fans hate the Dodgers and all human beings hate the Yankees, but why do you hate the Cardinals?I hate them because Tony La Russa is a pompous, arrogant blowhard who believes his own press.And he lied to Ozzy Smith.

Gvac

10-27-2006, 03:50 PM

I hate them for the same reasons as you, FezPaul, and also since realignment they're a chief division rival of the Reds, much like LA was back in the day.

Doctor Z

10-27-2006, 03:50 PM

I'd just like to say that this has been the least predictable post-season I've ever seen... I defy any non-Cardinal fan who says they picked the Cardinals to go all the way this year. The Twins got knocked out by the A's... The Tigers embarassed the Yankees. The Mets didn't go to the World Series... And after every living analyst picked the Tigers over the Cards, it looks like 83-win St. Louis is gonna hoist the trophy.Kids, don't gamble on sports.

FezPaul

10-27-2006, 03:52 PM

Doctor_Z wrote: Kids, don't gamble on sports. Unless the sport is college football and you know someone named Earl.

keithy_19

10-27-2006, 05:01 PM

These umps behind homeplate seem to change the strike zone on every pitch.

Mr.Pants

10-27-2006, 05:12 PM

An errant throw by the Tigers. What a surprise!

Bulldogcakes

10-27-2006, 05:30 PM

Looks like Verlander's settled down

FezPaul

10-27-2006, 05:42 PM

They're interviewing La Russa, glad I have the sound off.

TheMojoPin

10-27-2006, 05:53 PM

FezPaul wrote: Gvac wrote: I really hope Detroit wins tonight.  Even if the Cards win the Series I don't want it to be in front of their fans.  Next to the Dodgers there's no team I despise more than St. Louis. All Reds fans hate the Dodgers and all human beings hate the Yankees, but why do you hate the Cardinals?I hate them because Tony La Russa is a pompous, arrogant blowhard who believes his own press.And he lied to Ozzy Smith.If you're a fan of an NL Central team that's not the Cardinals and you DON'T hate them, there's something wrong with you.And Smith is one of the most vastly overrated players of all time.

This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 10-27-06 @ 9:53 PM

Kevin

10-27-2006, 05:53 PM

Tiger pitchers continue to do their best Chuck Knoblauch impersonations. I think they are in competition on who does the best. Who is in the lead?

Mr.Pants

10-27-2006, 05:54 PM

Man, you guys hate La Russa

Doctor Z

10-27-2006, 05:56 PM

Remember when Weaver sucked?  Me too.

Kevin

10-27-2006, 05:59 PM

Doctor_Z wrote: Remember when Weaver sucked?  Me too. Every World Series is turning into the Yankees do not know how to develope pitchers or the pressing the panic button too soon WS. Last year Contreras, this year Weaver. Jerret Wright WS MVP next year????

This message was edited by Kevin on 10-27-06 @ 10:07 PM

Doctor Z

10-27-2006, 06:03 PM

And how about World Series pitchers who came to the Yankees and stopped being good?Randy Johnson, Carl Pavano.

Mr.Pants

10-27-2006, 06:12 PM

Duncan is making McCarver look like a genius

Doctor Z

10-27-2006, 06:15 PM

Why did Enterprise make a commercial where a guy is going to his 10-Year class anniversary, and he says "Class of '94, here I come."?

Kevin

10-27-2006, 06:20 PM

Nice to see Mulder finally making a contribution to the WS. Has there ever been a faster downfall for pitchers than the Oak big 3 of Hudson/Zito/Mulder, in the history of the game??? Can you say pitchers did roids also??I am taking age out of the equation. And also Cub pitchers do not count either, since they are the Cubs.

This message was edited by Kevin on 10-27-06 @ 10:24 PM

Kevin

10-27-2006, 06:27 PM

Polanco might have the fatest, most poofy face for a semi in shape guy ever. Its like the guys from family guy and American dad used Polanco as a insperation for their artwork. Mainly the cripple cop in fam guy and the dad in American dad.

This message was edited by Kevin on 10-27-06 @ 10:28 PM

HBox

10-27-2006, 06:36 PM

David Eckstein is the luckiest player ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever.[/color]

This message was edited by HBox on 10-27-06 @ 10:37 PM

Mr.Pants

10-27-2006, 06:38 PM

Are the Tigers the worst fielding team to ever make the World Series?

Bama

10-27-2006, 06:49 PM

FUCK

Kevin

10-27-2006, 06:53 PM

Bama wrote: FUCK  Tigers    IN                       8??

FezPaul

10-27-2006, 06:53 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: FezPaul wrote: Gvac wrote: I really hope Detroit wins tonight.  Even if the Cards win the Series I don't want it to be in front of their fans.  Next to the Dodgers there's no team I despise more than St. Louis. All Reds fans hate the Dodgers and all human beings hate the Yankees, but why do you hate the Cardinals?I hate them because Tony La Russa is a pompous, arrogant blowhard who believes his own press.And he lied to Ozzy Smith.If you're a fan of an NL Central team that's not the Cardinals and you DON'T hate them, there's something wrong with you.And Smith is one of the most vastly overrated players of all time.That doesn't mean he deserves to be lied to by some pompous douche-bag.

This message was edited by FezPaul on 10-27-06 @ 10:55 PM

Doctor Z

10-27-2006, 06:59 PM

I still say Tigers in 4.

Kevin

10-27-2006, 07:00 PM

Doctor_Z wrote: I still say Tigers in 4 Decades. Fixed it!

Bama

10-27-2006, 07:02 PM

Tigers in 2007

Kevin

10-27-2006, 07:04 PM

Bama wrote: Tigers in 2047 Once again.... Fixed it.

Bama

10-27-2006, 07:06 PM

I officially hate the Cardinals now.David Eckstein has officially gained Derek Jeter status in my book.

Kevin

10-27-2006, 07:06 PM

I am so pissed at the Tigers. They let an NL team with 83 fucking wins destroy them in the World Series. They have mortified the AL. I am even more pissed that we lost to the fucking losers.

Doctor Z

10-27-2006, 07:07 PM

This post-season was overall a joke.

Bama

10-27-2006, 07:08 PM

RALLY TIME!!!!

HBox

10-27-2006, 07:11 PM

Bama wrote: I officially hate the Cardinals now.David Eckstein has officially gained Derek Jeter status in my book.  WHAT? If the Tigers knew how to field the ball he'd still be working on an 0-fer.

Doctor Z

10-27-2006, 07:12 PM

Have we entered an era in baseball where the best teams don't win? And if so, does anyone have any theories as to why this has happened, and what can be done to change it?Also, congratulations to the Cardinals for finally joining the Yankees with double-digit championships. Only 16 more to go.

narc

10-27-2006, 07:14 PM

Kevin

10-27-2006, 07:17 PM

The Sad part is that the Cards will not even make the playoffs next year. The only teams that have made the playoffs after winning the WS in the past 10 years is the Yankees and the Redsox, And the Redsox barley made it.  It took untill the final day of the season to do it last year.

This message was edited by Kevin on 10-27-06 @ 11:18 PM

Kevin

10-27-2006, 07:24 PM

American Dad Face took a really close pitch.

Fezticle98

10-27-2006, 07:25 PM

Cards win. Close the thread.

Bama

10-27-2006, 07:26 PM

TIGERS IN 8

HBox

10-27-2006, 07:28 PM

Let the debate begin: Worst WS winner ever? I say yes.

sailor

10-27-2006, 07:28 PM

Bama wrote: TIGERS IN 8  best 5 out of 9?

Kevin

10-27-2006, 07:28 PM

Bama wrote: TIGERS IN 8 HA! TIGERS ARE AN EMBARESSMENT TO THE AL! <img height="270" src="http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/801575/2/istockphoto_801575_gay_tiger.jpg" width="159" border="0" /> Fucking Homos

This message was edited by Kevin on 10-27-06 @ 11:30 PM

FezPaul

10-27-2006, 07:29 PM

fezticle98 wrote: Cards win. Close the thread. What? The Giants hired Bruce Bochy from the Padres.Discuss.

Fezticle98

10-27-2006, 07:30 PM

Venga boys? yuckIs Don Denkinger off the hook?

HBox

10-27-2006, 07:31 PM

FezPaul

10-27-2006, 07:32 PM

HBox wrote: Let the debate begin: Worst WS winner ever? I say yes. The 1919 Cincinnati Reds were worse, they played almost as badly as the Black Sox who were throwing the game.

Kevin

10-27-2006, 07:34 PM

The Tigers fucking cheated and they still got embaressed. Once again......  <img height="270" src="http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/801575/2/istockphoto_801575_gay_tiger.jpg" width="159" border="0" />

Bama

10-27-2006, 07:34 PM

FezPaul wrote: HBox wrote: Let the debate begin: Worst WS winner ever? I say yes. The 1919 Cincinnati Reds were worse, they played almost as badly as the Black Sox who were throwing the game. Sounds just like this series.

This message was edited by Bama on 10-27-06 @ 11:36 PM

Bama

10-27-2006, 07:37 PM

Kenny Rogers would have thrown a no hitter in game 6.

narc

10-27-2006, 07:37 PM

Good for the Cardinals. I just don't know why they couldn't have done this two years ago.

Kevin

10-27-2006, 07:37 PM

Bama wrote: FezPaul wrote: HBox wrote: Let the debate begin: Worst WS winner ever? I say yes. The 1919 Cincinnati Reds were worse, they played almost as badly as the Black Sox who were throwing the game. Sounds just like this series.This message was edited by Bama on 10-27-06 @ 11:36 PM Naa the Tigers just sucked Balls.

Kevin

10-27-2006, 07:39 PM

Who the fuck is their owner?? Paul R NELSON??

Bama

10-27-2006, 07:39 PM

Zelasko, worst interviewer ever??? YES.

sailor

10-27-2006, 07:39 PM

FezPaul wrote: fezticle98 wrote: Cards win. Close the thread. What? The Giants hired Bruce Bochy from the Padres.Discuss.  or, what about how much of a <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2006/columns/story?columnist=thompson_wright&id=2637763" target="_blank" title="anuses">tool</a> pujols is?

Bama

10-27-2006, 07:40 PM

DAVID ECKSTEIN IS MVP????????????? BASEBALL IS DEAD

Mr.Pants

10-27-2006, 07:41 PM

I thought I would throw "Detroit riot" in the google news just to check.

Ryanlucas

10-27-2006, 07:41 PM

Kevin wrote: The Sad part is that the Cards will not even make the playoffs next year. The only teams that have made the playoffs after winning the WS in the past 10 years is the Yankees and the Redsox, And the Redsox barley made it.  It took untill the final day of the season to do it last year. This message was edited by Kevin on 10-27-06 @ 11:18 PM I dont know if they will or not but they make the playoffs often.If Walt Jockety will keep the team together i belive they will. And as far as the best team not winning..They won in 5 games...If it was close i might agree Congrats ST LOUIS CARDINALS!!!!!!

sailor

10-27-2006, 07:43 PM

i imagine mets fans are none too happy about this.

Kevin

10-27-2006, 07:44 PM

Bama wrote: DAVID ECKSTEIN IS MVP????????????? BASEBALL IS DEADIf the Tigers knew how to feild he would have an 0-fer for the series, Give the MVP to Edge.

johnniewalker

10-27-2006, 07:44 PM

Bama wrote: Zelasko, worst interviewer ever??? YES.  Hilarious, they were just ignoring her after she asked a question.  Jeanie: "Say it one more time Cardinals are world champions",Owner:  umm "I just want to thank our fans..."

johnniewalker

10-27-2006, 07:45 PM

Kevin wrote: Bama wrote: DAVID ECKSTEIN IS MVP????????????? BASEBALL IS DEADIf the Tigers knew how to feild he would have an 0-fer for the series, Give the MVP to Edge. I was hoping for Weaver, giving hope and dreams to all those underachieving pot smokers out there.

Bama

10-27-2006, 07:45 PM

The Mets screwed up their one chance. Atlanta will dominate the NL East for another 14 years now.

sailor

10-27-2006, 07:47 PM

Kevin wrote: Bama wrote: DAVID ECKSTEIN IS MVP????????????? BASEBALL IS DEADIf the Tigers knew how to feild he would have an 0-fer for the series, Give the MVP to Edge.  <img width="228" height="350" border="0" src="http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/madrigalq/edge.jpg" alt="edge" title="edge" />

FezPaul

10-27-2006, 07:49 PM

bronxmarc wrote:  FezPaul wrote: fezticle98 wrote: Cards win. Close the thread. What? The Giants hired Bruce Bochy from the Padres.Discuss.  or, what about how much of a <a title="anuses" href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2006/columns/story?columnist=thompson_wright&id=2637763" target="_blank">tool</a> pujols is? Wow, what an ass-hole, and he really likes to promote himself as a nice guy.

mdr55

10-27-2006, 07:50 PM

bronxmarc wrote: i imagine mets fans are none too happy about this.    and the Yankees too. 
<blockquote />

AppleBoy

10-27-2006, 07:51 PM

sailor

10-27-2006, 07:52 PM

FezPaul wrote: bronxmarc wrote: FezPaul wrote: fezticle98 wrote: Cards win. Close the thread. What? The Giants hired Bruce Bochy from the Padres.Discuss. or, what about how much of a <a target="_blank" href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2006/columns/story?columnist=thompson_wright&id=2637763" title="anuses">tool</a> pujols is? Wow, what an ass-hole, and he really likes to promote himself as a nice guy.  that's ass-jol.  i was seriously shocked when i read that as well.  never would have guessed he was that insecure or vindictive.

Doctor Z

10-27-2006, 07:53 PM

I know the Cardinals earned it, and they won it fair and square... But I don't wanna live in a world where an 83-win team can be the champions of baseball.In the 100+ year history of baseball, that is the lowest win total of ANY World Series champions ever.

kellermcgee21

10-27-2006, 07:54 PM

Cards are the champs......i'm off to get bombed <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/drunk.gif" border="0" />

Kevin

10-27-2006, 07:55 PM

bronxmarc wrote:  Kevin wrote: Bama wrote: DAVID ECKSTEIN IS MVP????????????? BASEBALL IS DEADIf the Tigers knew how to feild he would have an 0-fer for the series, Give the MVP to Edge.  <img title="edge" height="350" alt="edge" src="http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l25/madrigalq/edge.jpg" width="228" border="0" />       <img height="230" src="http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/33/331250.jpg" width="220" border="0" />    <img height="200" src="http://www.wrestlinginc.com/v2/wi/img/pic/edge.jpg" width="150" border="0" />

Kevin

10-27-2006, 07:58 PM

Mr.Pants

10-27-2006, 07:59 PM

There's nothing Europeans like better than when Americans declare their teams World Champions.

Doctor Z

10-27-2006, 08:00 PM

I'm flattered.

kellermcgee21

10-27-2006, 08:01 PM

Kevin wrote: The Sad part is that the Cards will not even make the playoffs next year. The only teams that have made the playoffs after winning the WS in the past 10 years is the Yankees and the Redsox, And the Redsox barley made it.  It took untill the final day of the season to do it last year. This message was edited by Kevin on 10-27-06 @ 11:18 PM and one more thing before i get too hammered to type....the cardinals had a lot of young players who will continue to develop...they aren't going to lose any key players and the have 30-40 million to spend in the free agent market with a bunch of contracts being off the books after this year....so they will be back in the playoffs next year

Mr.Pants

10-27-2006, 08:03 PM

You're not talking about the Illinois State Cardinals are you?

Kevin

10-27-2006, 08:05 PM

kellermcgee21 wrote: Kevin wrote: The Sad part is that the Cards will not even make the playoffs next year. The only teams that have made the playoffs after winning the WS in the past 10 years is the Yankees and the Redsox, And the Redsox barley made it.  It took untill the final day of the season to do it last year. This message was edited by Kevin on 10-27-06 @ 11:18 PM and one more thing before i get too hammered to type....the cardinals had a lot of young players who will continue to develop...they aren't going to lose any key players and the have 30-40 million to spend in the free agent market with a bunch of contracts being off the books after this year....so they will be back in the playoffs next yearYou would of said the Same exact thing about the Wsox last year... And the Marlins... Dbacks.....

Kevin

10-27-2006, 08:07 PM

Angels....

led37zep

10-27-2006, 08:48 PM

Go giants!  (I'm starting early)

Fezticle98

10-27-2006, 10:26 PM

Joe Niekro, dead at 61:<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2641235">http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2641235</a>

PapaBear

10-27-2006, 10:32 PM

That's pretty freaking weird, since they talked about him on the show a few days ago.

HBox

10-27-2006, 11:03 PM

<a href="http://firejoemorgan.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">If you are getting sick of Eckstein-mania, go to the Fire Joe Morgan blog. It's hilarious.</a>

Bulldogcakes

10-28-2006, 03:32 AM

Doctor_Z wrote: Have we entered an era in baseball where the best teams don't win? And if so, does anyone have any theories as to why this has happened, and what can be done to change it? Also, congratulations to the Cardinals for finally joining the Yankees with double-digit championships. Only 16 more to go. Yeah, an 83 win team winning it all is a joke. Baseball has gone the way of Hockey, where a team can get hot at the right time and win it all. And the long regular season doesn't mean much, except a chance to get into the "tournament". Baseball has always valued its regular season more than that and this has made it seem empty. My answer? Best record in each league gets 4 of 5 at home in ALDS (2-1-2) and 5 of 7 home for ALCS (2-2-3). This is not to punish the Wild Card, but to place a premium on winning your league. Like it used to be pre-1969. Unfortunately, home field is not the big edge in Baseball it is in other sports, but its the best option out there.  <blockquote />

Bulldogcakes

10-28-2006, 03:35 AM

Bama wrote: Kenny Rogers would have thrown a no <strike>h</strike> spitter in game 6. I fixed that for you.  <blockquote />

Bulldogcakes

10-28-2006, 03:35 AM

There's another proposal where best record gets a bye week, and skips the ALDS altogether. Bad idea. One thing I think hurt the Tigers was all the time off they had. They clearly weren't sharp that first game, and there goes you one extra home field game right away, which also sets a bad tone for the series. PLus I'm sure owners wont want to lose the $$ they get from that series, either.      

This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 10-28-06 @ 7:46 AM

Dan 'Hampton

10-28-2006, 04:13 AM

Leave the playoffs the way they are.  We got to face the fact that 75% of the country hates the Sox and the Yanks. It's good for baseball that most teams have a legitimate chance at winning each year.  I don't hear people complaining about the even playing field in football.

cougarjake13

10-28-2006, 06:33 AM

Kevin wrote: Nice to see Mulder finally making a contribution to the WS. Has there ever been a faster downfall for pitchers than the Oak big 3 of Hudson/Zito/Mulder, in the history of the game??? Can you say pitchers did roids also??I am taking age out of the equation.   And also Cub pitchers do not count either, since they are the Cubs.This message was edited by Kevin on 10-27-06 @ 10:24 PM and the shame of it is he'll get a world series ring even though he did little to contribute to winning it

cougarjake13

10-28-2006, 06:34 AM

HBox wrote: David Eckstein is the luckiest player ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever. This message was edited by HBox on 10-27-06 @ 10:37 PM my vote is craig counsell

cougarjake13

10-28-2006, 06:37 AM

HBox wrote:  FezPaul wrote: fezticle98 wrote: Cards win. Close the thread. What? The Giants hired Bruce Bochy from the Padres.Discuss.  He has a hell of a stache. HAD he shaved it a while ago<img height="235" src="http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/images/2006/10/02/LdZlaxfH.jpg" width="275" border="0" />

cougarjake13

10-28-2006, 06:40 AM

bronxmarc wrote: i imagine mets fans are none too happy about this. fuck nothe cardinals are celebrating with our world series trophybut they found a way to win so congrats to them

cougarjake13

10-28-2006, 06:44 AM

cougarjake13

10-28-2006, 06:47 AM

Bulldogcakes wrote:  Doctor_Z wrote: Have we entered an era in baseball where the best teams don't win? And if so, does anyone have any theories as to why this has happened, and what can be done to change it?  Also, congratulations to the Cardinals for finally joining the Yankees with double-digit championships. Only 16 more to go. Yeah, an 83 win team winning it all is a joke. Baseball has gone the way of Hockey, where a team can get hot at the right time and win it all. And the long regular season doesn't mean much, except a chance to get into the "tournament". Baseball has always valued its regular season more than that and this has made it seem empty. My answer? Best record in each league gets 4 of 5 at home in ALDS (2-1-2) and 5 of 7 home for ALCS (2-2-3). This is not to punish the Wild Card, but to place a premium on winning your league. Like it used to be pre-1969. Unfortunately, home field is not the big edge in Baseball it is in other sports, but its the best option out there.   i agrre something has to be done to put more value on winning your divisionthis is becoming like nascar where a guy could never win a race all year but win the championship

johnniewalker

10-28-2006, 07:28 AM

cougarjake13 wrote: Bulldogcakes wrote: Doctor_Z wrote: Have we entered an era in baseball where the best teams don't win? And if so, does anyone have any theories as to why this has happened, and what can be done to change it? Also, congratulations to the Cardinals for finally joining the Yankees with double-digit championships. Only 16 more to go. Yeah, an 83 win team winning it all is a joke. Baseball has gone the way of Hockey, where a team can get hot at the right time and win it all. And the long regular season doesn't mean much, except a chance to get into the "tournament". Baseball has always valued its regular season more than that and this has made it seem empty. My answer? Best record in each league gets 4 of 5 at home in ALDS (2-1-2) and 5 of 7 home for ALCS (2-2-3). This is not to punish the Wild Card, but to place a premium on winning your league. Like it used to be pre-1969. Unfortunately, home field is not the big edge in Baseball it is in other sports, but its the best option out there. i agrre something has to be done to put more value on winning your divisionthis is becoming like nascar where a guy could never win a race all year but win the championship I disagree completely.  If you look at these playoffs the other teams played so bad the Cards managed to get through.  Detroit allowed 8 unearned runs in the series.  If a team gets cold in the last month and fails to get into the playoffs should we give them a break b/c they led their division all year.  It was a fun playoffs, but the cardinals definately advantaged from bad play all around.

A.J.

10-28-2006, 08:17 AM

FezPaul

10-28-2006, 09:09 AM

cougarjake13 wrote: HBox wrote: David Eckstein is the luckiest player ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever. This message was edited by HBox on 10-27-06 @ 10:37 PM my vote is craig counsell Two rings for a utility infielder.   2 Lg Div Series       2-0     2 Lg Champ Series     2-0    2 World Series        2-0   FLA '97 / ARI '01   6 Postseason Series   6-0   31 games / 102 AB /.245 BA /.328 OBP / 2 HR / 13 RBI

Gvac

10-28-2006, 09:28 AM

Thursday, July 12  2007 Friday, July 13  2007 Saturday, July 14  2007 Sunday, July 15  2007 Cincinnati Reds at New York Mets. Who's up for a trip to Shea?

cougarjake13

10-28-2006, 05:13 PM

Gvac wrote: Thursday, July 12  2007 Friday, July 13  2007 Saturday, July 14  2007 Sunday, July 15  2007 Cincinnati Reds at New York Mets. Who's up for a trip to Shea? damn they released schedules already ???where's you find it on the team website ???

Gvac

10-28-2006, 06:01 PM

Believe it or not, the Reds had their 2007 schedule up on their site 2 days after the regular season ended.  Times aren't set yet, though.

cougarjake13

10-28-2006, 06:06 PM

Gvac wrote: Believe it or not, the Reds had their 2007 schedule up on their site 2 days after the regular season ended.  Times aren't set yet, though. yeh i checked the mets and didnt see any 2007 schedules yetanyone know what al division the nl east play this year ??  we played al east last year i think so would it be al central ???

Bulldogcakes

10-28-2006, 06:27 PM

<a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&refer=news_index&sid=ahfDnnOL7qKw" target="_self" title="Mojo, get out the vaseline">Mojo, get out the vaseline</a>This is a story from a few months ago, but I heard them say on Bloomberg radio today that they are in the process off selling off their assets due to financial trouble. They've <a href="http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060914/tribune_company_divestiture.html?.v=1" target="_self" title="already sold">already sold</a> WLVI in Boston, another station in Albany, and today they just announced they sold their <a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CE5DC133FF937A35751C1A9649582 60" target="_self" title="newsprint operation">newsprint operation. </a>Could the Cubs be next?

Bulldogcakes

10-29-2006, 04:37 AM

<a href="http://redsox.bostonherald.com/redSox/view.bg?articleid=164639" target="_self" title="For those who think A-Rod wont be dealt, because of all the denials">For those who think A-Rod wont be dealt, because of all the denials</a>  After a five-hour
meeting in a New York hotel suite, Rodriguez came out annointed the first
captain of the Rangers in 20 years. He told the media then, “I
definitely think I’m going to be here for a long time” and “I’m
probably pretty sure it will work out for the best.”
 <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td height="8"></td></tr></table>    Three weeks later he was a Yankee.
 late January of 2004 Also from the article<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td height="8"> </td></tr></table>    Trading
Rodriguez is not a farfetched notion, and there are reliable reports
from multiple baseball sources that, according to one, “I don’t think
there is any way that that relationship can be recovered” and that a
trade is “all but certain.”

Bulldogcakes

10-31-2006, 01:40 AM

<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2644014" target="_self" title="Lee, Ramirez file free agency">Lee, Ramirez file free agency</a> Lee, 30, is a career .286 hitter with 221 homers and 782 RBI in
eight seasons with Texas, Milwaukee and the <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=cha">Chicago White Sox</a>.
He is considered one of the top-tier offensive free agents this
offseason along with <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=was">Washington Nationals</a> slugger Alfonso
Soriano, who filed Sunday.Ramirez, 28, quietly enjoyed a fine offensive season in an
otherwise dismal year for the Cubs, batting .291 with career
highs of 38 homers and 119 RBI. The Dominican slugger owns a
career average of .279 with 196 homers and 669 RBI in nine
seasons with the Cubs and the <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=pit">Pittsburgh Pirates</a>. I thought Ramirez had a team option. I guess not.

TheMojoPin

10-31-2006, 03:42 AM

Nope, he was just given an opt out clause after 2 years, which everyone knew he was going to use short of him just completely tanking, so this isn't anything for me to worry about.  Hendry has 2 weeks to work out a deal before anyone else and I'm confident he weill...you don't hire Pinella and expect to keep your barely hanging on job by letting your team's best young hitter walk.  Aramis is just being smart...he knows the market is incredibly thin for good third basemen and he wants a bigger payday.  If the Cubs have half a brain between them, they pain him, period.

Kevin

10-31-2006, 07:17 AM

TheMojoPin wrote: Nope, he was just given an opt out clause after 2 years, which everyone knew he was going to use short of him just completely tanking, so this isn't anything for me to worry about.  Hendry has 2 weeks to work out a deal before anyone else and I'm confident he weill...you don't hire Pinella and expect to keep your barely hanging on job by letting your team's best young hitter walk.  Aramis is just being smart...he knows the market is incredibly thin for good third basemen and he wants a bigger payday.  If the Cubs have half a brain between them, they pain him, period. Who is his agent? If its Boras than there is no way he is signing before he tests the FA waters. Boras clients never sign early.

TheMojoPin

10-31-2006, 09:02 AM

Kevin wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: Nope, he was just given an opt out clause after 2 years, which everyone knew he was going to use short of him just completely tanking, so this isn't anything for me to worry about.  Hendry has 2 weeks to work out a deal before anyone else and I'm confident he weill...you don't hire Pinella and expect to keep your barely hanging on job by letting your team's best young hitter walk.  Aramis is just being smart...he knows the market is incredibly thin for good third basemen and he wants a bigger payday.  If the Cubs have half a brain between them, they pain him, period. Who is his agent? If its Boras than there is no way he is signing before he tests the FA waters. Boras clients never sign early.Shockingly, it's not.  His agent is Paul Kinzer.I think they'll have to pay heavy, probably something like at least $15 million a year for 5 years (maybe with a 6th year option), but they'll get it done.  For one thing, I have little doubt Hendry is done if Aramis gets away.  There's no way they convinced Pinella to come here without also convincing him that Aramis would be re-signed.  This team is bad enough as it is, but they're totally cooked for next year without Aramis.  If he goes, the smart thing to do would be to blow the team up a la the Marlins and re-build with cheap and good young players...and that's not what they signed someone like Sweet Lou to do.If Aramis gets away, it's because Jim Hendry fucks up and loses his job, not because he and the team want to let him go.

Doctor Z

10-31-2006, 09:44 AM

Trade Proposal
A-Rod for The Philly Phanatic, straight up.

Kevin

10-31-2006, 01:40 PM

Doctor_Z wrote: Trade Proposal A-Rod for The Philly Phanatic, straight up. You should be banned for at least a month for that joke.

cougarjake13

10-31-2006, 03:03 PM

Kevin wrote: Doctor_Z wrote: Trade Proposal A-Rod for The Philly Phanatic, straight up. You should be banned for at least a month for that joke.yeh its not even a fair dealit should be the philly phanatic for A Rod and the cowbell guy

cougarjake13

10-31-2006, 03:12 PM

talk about falling off the face od the earthi totally forgot about harold reynoldshe's suing espn for wrongful termination<a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6121298">http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6121298</a>

Kevin

10-31-2006, 09:27 PM

cougarjake13 wrote: Kevin wrote: Doctor_Z wrote: Trade Proposal A-Rod for The Philly Phanatic, straight up. You should be banned for at least a month for that joke.yeh its not even a fair dealit should be the philly phanatic for A Rod and the cowbell guyIsn't it supposed to be Fanatic? We are not Yankee Dat Phans. Its NY Yankee fans.

Kevin

11-01-2006, 08:50 AM

<table width="100%" border="0"><tr><td><div class="tablexlrg bi">MLB Rumor Central: Bidding war?</div></td><td align="right"><div class="tablesm">Other Rumors: <a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors">NBA</a> | <a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/features/rumors">NFL</a> | <a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nhl/features/rumors">NHL</a></div></td></tr></table><table class="tablehead" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0"><tr><td align="center"><div /></td></tr></table><div><table class="tablehead" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0"><tr class="oddrow"><td colspan="3">Select Team: AllArizona DiamondbacksAtlanta BravesBaltimore OriolesBoston Red SoxChicago White SoxChicago CubsCincinnati RedsCleveland IndiansColorado RockiesDetroit TigersFlorida MarlinsHouston AstrosKansas City RoyalsLos Angeles AngelsLos Angeles DodgersMilwaukee BrewersMinnesota TwinsNew York YankeesNew York MetsOakland AthleticsPhiladelphia PhilliesPittsburgh PiratesSan Diego PadresSan Francisco GiantsSeattle MarinersSt. Louis CardinalsTampa Bay Devil RaysTexas RangersToronto Blue JaysWashington Nationals</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="3">Wednesday, November 1</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td align="center"><div><img alt="Alfonso Soriano" src="http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/65x90/6154.jpg" border="0" /></div><div class="bi"><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6154">Alfonso Soriano</a></div><div>Nationals</div></td><td><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym">Mets</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=phi">Phillies</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=bal">Orioles</a>?</div></td><td><div class="bi">Bidding war?</div><div>Nov 1 - The Phillies plan to offer Alfonso Soriano big money, the Philadelphia Inquirer reports. To sign the left fielder, the Phils may have to outbid the Mets, the franchise that beat them out in recent years for free-agent pitchers Tom Glavine and Billy Wagner, PhillyBurbs.com reports. According to the Washington Post, Soriano is seeking a similar contract to the one Carlos Beltran signed with the Mets before the 2005 season, which was for seven years and $119 million. The Phillies could open with a five-year offer for $80 million. The Orioles, according to a team source, began preliminary discussions with Soriano, and were surprised by the free agent's initial contract demands, the Post reports. It's unlikely the Orioles will be in the running for Soriano if he doesn't back off his demands. Teams can begin bidding on free agents until Nov. 12. </div></td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"><td align="center"><div><img alt="Julio Lugo" src="http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/65x90/6451.jpg" border="0" /></div><div class="bi"><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6451">Julio Lugo</a></div><div>Dodgers</div></td><td><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=bos">Red Sox</a>?</div></td><td><div class="bi">Welcome to Beantown?</div><div>Nov 1 - According to the Providence Journal, the Red Sox are likely to make a huge push for Julio Lugo to play shortstop. The team has coveted him for years. </div></td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td align="center"><div><img alt="Gary Sheffield" src="http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/65x90/4268.jpg" border="0" /></div><div class="bi"><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/players/pr

cougarjake13

11-01-2006, 12:52 PM

Kevin wrote: cougarjake13 wrote: Kevin wrote: Doctor_Z wrote: Trade Proposal A-Rod for The Philly Phanatic, straight up. You should be banned for at least a month for that joke.yeh its not even a fair dealit should be the philly phanatic for A Rod and the cowbell guyIsn't it supposed to be Fanatic? We are not Yankee Dat Phans. Its NY Yankee fans.normally yes, but the phillies use the ph

Doctor Z

11-01-2006, 05:18 PM

MOTA = CHEATER

Kevin

11-01-2006, 05:19 PM

Doctor_Z wrote: MOTA = CHEATER Shocking.

Kevin

11-02-2006, 08:47 AM

cougarjake13

11-02-2006, 02:49 PM

Kevin wrote: Doctor_Z wrote: MOTA = CHEATER Shocking.yeh the guy had a 6 something era all year then pitches lights out once he got to the metsyou know something was up

Kevin

11-02-2006, 03:48 PM

<table class="tablehead" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0"><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td align="center"><div><img alt="" src="http://espn.go.com/photo/2006/1102/mlb_g_iwamura_65.jpg" border="0" /></div><div class="bi">Akinori Iwamura</div></td><td><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=sdg">Padres</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=bos">Red Sox</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=cle">Indians</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=phi">Phillies</a>?</div></td><td><div class="bi">Phils, others interested in Iwamura</div><div>Nov 2 - According to the Philadelphia Daily News, the Phillies have considerable interest in third baseman Akinori Iwamura, whose team -- the Yakult Swallows -- is expected to post him. Iwamura, 27, is a left-handed hitter who batted .311 with 32 home runs, 77 RBI and a .389 OBP in 2006. Along with the Phillies, other teams expected to bid for Iwamura are the Indians, Red Sox and Padres.  </div></td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"><td align="center"><div><img alt="Barry Bonds" src="http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/65x90/3918.jpg" border="0" /></div><div class="bi"><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/players/profile?statsId=3918">Barry Bonds</a></div><div>Giants</div></td><td><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=sfo">Giants</a></div></td><td><div class="bi">Agent: Teams showing interest</div><div>Nov 2 - Bonds' agent told the San Jose Mercury News on Wednesday that he has spoken to several teams about Bonds. Although he wouldn't name the clubs, agent Jeff Borris said at least one team was from the National League, and it wasn't the Giants. "Teams are interested in him," Borris said. According to the Mercury News, sources expect the market for Bonds to develop slowly. Two AL teams, for instance, could revisit Bonds as an option if other offseason plans fail. Bonds, 42, is 22 home runs short of Hank Aaron's all-time major-league record of 755.</div></td></tr></table>

Kevin

11-03-2006, 01:59 PM

<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2648521" target="_self">Lariano Done for 2007</a> It is so sad what the Twins did to this special tallent. There no way he should have pitched again after his first stint in the DL. Just sad.

Kevin

11-03-2006, 02:08 PM

Your not going to like this Mojo. <table class="tablehead" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0"><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td align="center"><div><img alt="Aramis Ramirez" src="http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/65x90/6014.jpg" border="0" /></div><div class="bi"><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6014">Aramis Ramirez</a></div><div>Cubs</div></td><td><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=laa">Angels</a>?</div></td><td><div class="bi">Angels focus on Ramirez</div><div>Nov 3 - ESPN The Magazine's Buster Olney reports that Ramirez is the No. 1 offseason priority for the Angels. Ramirez, 28, is coming off a season in which he hit .291 with 38 home runs, 119 RBI and a .561 slugging percentage that ranked second among all major-league third basemen. He is expected to draw one of the biggest contracts among free-agent position players and could be too rich for the Cubs.</div></td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65"> </td><td> </td><td> </td></tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"><td align="center"><div /><div class="bi" /></td><td><div /></td><td><div class="bi" /></td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td align="center"><div><img alt="Mike Mussina" src="http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/65x90/4715.jpg" border="0" /></div><div class="bi"><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/players/profile?statsId=4715">Mike Mussina</a></div><div>Yankees</div></td><td><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym">Mets</a>?</div></td><td><div class="bi">Moose with the Mets?</div><div>Nov 3 - According to the New York Post, Mussina would be open to joining the cross-town Mets when he's expected to become a free agent in the next two weeks. The Yankees are likely to decline Mussina's $17 million option by the Nov. 15 deadline, which would make the veteran right-hander a free agent. Instead, the Yankees are expected to pay Mussina's $1.5 million buyout and then discuss a new contract. Mussina, who turns 38 next month, was 15-7 with a 3.51 ERA in 2006. </div></td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"><td align="center"><div><img alt="Gary Sheffield" src="http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/65x90/4268.jpg" border="0" /></div><div class="bi"><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/players/profile?statsId=4268">Gary Sheffield</a></div><div>Yankees</div></td><td><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=cle">Indians</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=phi">Phillies</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=tex">Rangers</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=sfo">Giants</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=hou">Astros</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=laa">Angels</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=chc">Cubs</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=bal">Orioles</a>?</div></td><td><div class="bi">Is Tribe a trade partner?</div><div>Nov 3 - The New York Post reports that the Indians have called the Yankees regarding Sheffield's availability. The Yankees are likely to pick up Sheffield's $13 million option Monday with the intention of trading him. Earlier, officials with the Phillies and Cubs denied their teams were interested in Sheffield, the Newark Star-Ledger reported. The Astros are believed to have some interest in Sheffield, but they have a reputation for being gun-shy on trades and may have interest in free-agent outfielder Carlos Lee instead. </div></td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTEREST

Kevin

11-04-2006, 09:11 PM

<table class="tablehead" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0"><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="3">Saturday, November 4</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td align="center"><div><img alt="Gary Sheffield" src="http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/65x90/4268.jpg" border="0" /></div><div class="bi"><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/players/profile?statsId=4268">Gary Sheffield</a></div><div>Yankees</div></td><td><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=cle">Indians</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=phi">Phillies</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=tex">Rangers</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=sfo">Giants</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=hou">Astros</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=laa">Angels</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=chc">Cubs</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=bal">Orioles</a>?</div></td><td><div class="bi">Sheff's multiple suitors</div><div>Nov 4 - The Yankees plan to pick up Gary Sheffield's $13 million option Sunday with the hopes of trading him. And the New York Post reports that there are several potential trade partners. The Post said the Yankees have already rejected an offer from the Orioles for Kris Benson and a reliever, and that the Astros, Padres, Rangers, Indians and Tigers have shown the strongest interest. In return, the Yankees are hoping to get a dependable starter or reliever, a backup catcher and other players to deepen their farm system. Newsday reports that Yankees GM Brian Cashman is willing to hold out for the best possible deal. The newspaper also says the Cubs, Giants and Phillies are Sheffield's most likely NL homes, while AL teams believed to have interest are the Rangers, Indians, Orioles and White Sox. The Bergen Record says the Phillies are interested in Sheffield mainly as a backup plan in the event they don't land Alfonso Soriano. </div></td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"><td align="center"><div><img alt="Luis Gonzalez" src="http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/65x90/4576.jpg" border="0" /></div><div class="bi"><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/players/profile?statsId=4576">Luis Gonzalez</a></div><div>Diamondbacks</div></td><td><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=stl">Cardinals</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=sfo">Giants</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=cin">Reds</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=tex">Rangers</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=cle">Indians</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=bal">Orioles</a>?</div></td><td><div class="bi">Indians, Gonzo do lunch</div><div>Nov 4 - The Cleveland Plain-Dealer reported that Indians GM Mark Shapiro had lunch Friday with Gonzalez and his agent, Gregg Clifton, in Phoenix. "I think it was very positive," said Clifton. "Luis was impressed with Mark, and I think Mark was impressed with Luis." The Indians are looking for a veteran hitter who can either play a corner outfield position or first base. Other teams that have expressed an interest in Gonza

Bulldogcakes

11-05-2006, 03:58 AM

<a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2006/10/cubs_to_target_.html" target="_self" title="Some Cub stuff">Some Cub stuff</a>The first one comes from the Chicago Tribune.  Paul Sullivan indicates that the Cubs may turn their focus to Japanese hurler Hiroki Kuroda instead of Daisuke Matsuzaka.  Not that Matsuzaka isn't the better pitcher; he certainly is.  But Kuroda won't require a posting fee, and he posted <a href="http://www.japanball.com/stats.phtml">the best ERA</a>
(1.85) in Japan's Central League.  Kuroda also posted a 6.9 K/BB ratio,
which is awesome.  If Hendry can snag Kuroda for an under-the-radar
two-year, $15MM deal it wouldn't be a bad move.  Of course, it's not a
guarantee that Kuroda wants to pitch in the United States as of right
now.

Second, <a href="http://www.nypost.com/seven/10272006/sports/yankees/face_it__you_just_cant_keep_sheff_satisfied_yankee s_joel_sherman.htm">Joel Sherman names the Cubs</a> as a strong possibility for Gary Sheffield. 
We've all read Sheff's comments, about putting up a huge stink if the
Yanks pick up his option and then trade him.  But as Sherman says,
Sheffield has always been like this.  He's still got a lot of reasons
to play and play hard in 2007.  It'd be a low-risk acquisition with
.900 OPS potential.  Maybe an Angel Guzman type does the trick?  Maybe a little more, but it won't be requiring Rich Hill
like some other sluggers would.  From the Cubs' point of view, where
would Sheffield play?  Left and right field seem locked in with Matt Murton and Jacque Jones.

cougarjake13

11-05-2006, 04:55 AM

sammy sosa has said he wants back in after one year of retirementi really dont think he'll receive much interest other than performance based contracts

Kevin

11-06-2006, 01:02 PM

<table class="tablehead" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0"><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="3">Monday, November 6</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td align="center"><div><img alt="Gary Sheffield" src="http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/65x90/4268.jpg" border="0" /></div><div class="bi"><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/players/profile?statsId=4268">Gary Sheffield</a></div><div>Yankees</div></td><td><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=det">Tigers</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=sdg">Padres</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=cle">Indians</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=phi">Phillies</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=tex">Rangers</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=sfo">Giants</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=hou">Astros</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=laa">Angels</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=chc">Cubs</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=bal">Orioles</a>?</div></td><td><div class="bi">Where will Sheff go?</div><div>Nov 6 - Now that the Yankees have picked up Sheffield's $13 million option, speculation is rampant about where he might end up next. The New York Daily News reported that seven teams have inquired about Sheffield -- Detroit, Houston, Cleveland, Texas, San Diego, Baltimore and the Chicago Cubs. Newsday reported that Sheffield's agent, Rufus Williams, recently gave the Yankees a list of teams that Sheffield preferred if he were to be traded. Williams declined to list the teams, but the Chicago Tribune reported Sunday that the Cubs and White Sox are on Sheffield's list, and that the Tigers and Padres are likely to be included as well. Sheffield has a strong affinity for Tigers manager Jim Leyland, who managed him in Florida, and has talked about returning to San Diego, where he played earlier in his career. According to Newsday, Williams insists that Sheffield's top priority is to return to the Yankees, although it's unlikely since the Yankees now have Bobby Abreu in right field.</div></td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"><td align="center"><div><img alt="Gary Matthews Jr." src="http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/65x90/6241.jpg" border="0" /></div><div class="bi"><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6241">Gary Matthews Jr.</a></div><div>Rangers</div></td><td><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=tex">Rangers</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=lad">Dodgers</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=bal">Orioles</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=col">Rockies</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=hou">Astros</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=sea">Mariners</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=sfo">Giants</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=laa">Angels</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=chc">Cubs

TheMojoPin

11-06-2006, 01:18 PM

cougarjake13 wrote: sammy sosa has said he wants back in after one year of retirementi really dont think he'll receive much interest other than performance based contractsI have such a love/hate thing for Sammy, but ultimately I hope he stays away.  His performance the last 2 years I think shows that he'd just embarass himself coming back.Steroid questions aside (oddly enough, of all the major names that it gets tossed around about, he's the one with next to no anything "proving" that he did), I think his decline had much more to do with the beaing Salomon Torres gave him than anything else.  If anyone thinks I'm stretching how bad it was, trust me, I'm not:<img height="350" src="http://www.hopkinscounty.us/dawsonsprings/tp/Memorable%20Moments/SammySosaBeaned!.jpg" width="352" border="0" />That's a pitch that could kill you.  After he came back from that is when you started seeing the extended injuries and the offensive decline.  He stood way back from the plate and could be taken out with practically anything outside.  His offensive stance almost completely changed after he got hit.  The guy simply could not come back mentally from such a brutal beaning.  I think it was the frustration over that that ultimately led to the frequent DL trips and the corked bat.  I put up with the steroid whispers and the ego nonsense, but the corked bat is what did him in for me.  I feel bad for what happened after he got hit, but corking your fucking bat is just pathetic.  Bottom line, he's responsible for some of the greatest, most beautiful moments of baseball I've ever seen, but he's also infuriated me more than any other Cub in my 20+ years of following them.

Kevin

11-07-2006, 09:23 PM

<h2><a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/baseball/mlb/11/07/deadline.matsuzaka/index.html" target="_self">Make your bids</a></h2><h1><a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/baseball/mlb/11/07/deadline.matsuzaka/index.html" target="_self">Teams face Wed. deadline for Matsuzaka posting</a></h1>

TheMojoPin

11-08-2006, 03:26 AM

It sounds like the Cubs purposely leaked that they're bidding at least 21-24 million dollars, so I guess we can consider that the starting point.

crb1

11-08-2006, 04:02 AM

TheMojoPin wrote: It sounds like the Cubs purposely leaked that they're bidding at least 21-24 million dollars, so I guess we can consider that the starting point. That wouldn't make sense for them to do, unless they decided after their bid that they don't want him.  Telling other teams what you're bidding virtually assures you of losing.

BoondockSaint

11-08-2006, 04:08 AM

crb1 wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: It sounds like the Cubs purposely leaked that they're bidding at least 21-24 million dollars, so I guess we can consider that the starting point. That wouldn't make sense for them to do, unless they decided after their bid that they don't want him.  Telling other teams what you're bidding virtually assures you of losing.  Unless you're lying and you bid higher.  Leaking a low price may bring down other team's bids.

TheMojoPin

11-08-2006, 04:21 AM

BoondockSaint wrote: crb1 wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: It sounds like the Cubs purposely leaked that they're bidding at least 21-24 million dollars, so I guess we can consider that the starting point. That wouldn't make sense for them to do, unless they decided after their bid that they don't want him.  Telling other teams what you're bidding virtually assures you of losing.  Unless you're lying and you bid higher.  Leaking a low price may bring down other team's bids.Bingo.  There's no sense in leaking a number unless you're likely to bid even higher.  This basically sets a level that teams almost have to bid above, and might help squeeze a team or two out as it winds down.  And if they don't get him, ideally the team that does win ends up spending too much that it ties their hands in trying to bid on the other Japanese players out there or the few decent American FA's.Granted, this is the Cubs, and they could easily just be screwing up as per usual and accidentally leaked their real bid.  Wouldn't surprise me at all, especially since I don't think anything under $25 million at the bare minimum nets this guy.

This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 11-8-06 @ 8:24 AM

crb1

11-08-2006, 04:44 AM

TheMojoPin wrote: BoondockSaint wrote: Unless you're lying and you bid higher.  Leaking a low price may bring down other team's bids.Bingo.  There's no sense in leaking a number unless you're likely to bid even higher.  This basically sets a level that teams almost have to bid above, and might help squeeze a team or two out as it winds down.  And if they don't get him, ideally the team that does win ends up spending too much that it ties their hands in trying to bid on the other Japanese players out there or the few decent American FA's.Granted, this is the Cubs, and they could easily just be screwing up as per usual and accidentally leaked their real bid.  Wouldn't surprise me at all, especially since I don't think anything under $25 million at the bare minimum nets this guy.This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 11-8-06 @ 8:24 AM True.  Although it could also have the opposite effect.  A team could be hesitant to go $30 million, thinking maybe it was too much.  Then, after hearing the Cubs may go $24 million, they would be much more willing to bid high, knowing other teams will have to go $25 million + just to beat the Cubs.In reality, I doubt it will have too much impact, since basically every big money team is already in on the bidding.  So, other teams have to know that it will take at least $25 million to win.

TheMojoPin

11-08-2006, 04:50 AM

Or they hope it gets people thinking they can win with less than $30 million and they knock it out of the park with a $30-$35 million bid.  Beats the hell out of me.  Right now I'm actually more worried about them getting Aramis re-signed.

crb1

11-08-2006, 04:58 AM

TheMojoPin wrote: Or they hope it gets people thinking they can win with less than $30 million and they knock it out of the park with a $30-$35 million bid.  Beats the hell out of me.  Right now I'm actually more worried about them getting Aramis re-signed. Any word on that?  Last I heard, he was trying to squeeze every cent possible out of the Cubs, but he is still expected to re-up with them.

TheMojoPin

11-08-2006, 05:15 AM

crb1 wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: Or they hope it gets people thinking they can win with less than $30 million and they knock it out of the park with a $30-$35 million bid.  Beats the hell out of me.  Right now I'm actually more worried about them getting Aramis re-signed. Any word on that?  Last I heard, he was trying to squeeze every cent possible out of the Cubs, but he is still expected to re-up with them.  Same here.  I have little doubt the Cubs could have him if they want him, I just worry about Hendry fucking it up at the last minute because he's Hendry.  Bruce Miles of the Daily Herald posts at the Cubs board I usually use and he's really inside with them and he's confident Aramis coming back is a done deal.  Personally, I think Lou wouldn't have taken the job if they were letting Aramis go and I think Hendry is fired if he gets away...but still doesn't convince he won't find a way to mess things up.  I just want it done, though we probably won't know until Friday.

cougarjake13

11-08-2006, 04:57 PM

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spoon

11-09-2006, 12:08 AM

I know it's early but this is easily the best move of the year by the Indians and won't be easy to match.  This kid is a pedigree and has proven he can play very well at this level in a huge park and will be moving to a much more hitter friendly park in Cleveland.  Nice job, the Indians are looking to make a rebound in the now world series dominant AL Central Division. <a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061108&content_id=1737056&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb">http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061108&content_id=1737056&vkey=n ews_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb</a>

spoon

11-09-2006, 12:26 AM

Uh oh.  Manny might not be happy with this one.  And between the A's and the niners, the bay area might be left with only the Giants very soon.  I guess 20 miles isn't really that far and the Sharks are in the area as well.  But the proposed stadium won't even hold 40k!?  WTF?  I know the trend right now is a little smaller, but 35k??<a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061109&content_id=1737563&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb">http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061109&content_id=1737563&vkey=n ews_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb</a>

crb1

11-09-2006, 04:58 AM

I heard them talking about this today on XM 175.  Is there anything to it, or is it just speculation at this point?<a href="http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/rozner.asp?id=248088">http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/rozner.asp?id=248088</a>Hey Mojo,What are your thoughts?  Would you like to see the Cubs free of the Tribune Co.?

crb1

11-09-2006, 05:04 AM

spoon wrote: I know it's early but this is easily the best move of the year by the Indians and won't be easy to match.  This kid is a pedigree and has proven he can play very well at this level in a huge park and will be moving to a much more hitter friendly park in Cleveland.  Nice job, the Indians are looking to make a rebound in the now world series dominant AL Central Division. <a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061108&content_id=1737056&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb">http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061108&content_id=1737056&vkey=n ews_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb</a>I was shocked to hear that the Padres dealt their 23-year-old 2B. Good 2B aren't exactly easy to find.  The Indians are the team to beat in the Central next year.  If you look at their numbers, they actually played much better than their record.  They should also be good for a quite a few years.  The Twins lost Liriano and maybe Radke (assuming he retires).  That's going to hurt them enough to probably keep them out of the race for the division title, at least (and possibly the Wild Card).  The Tigers can still be a strong team if they can get another solid veteran hitter, or two.  And the Sox should also be decent, but the Indians are the class of the division barring any major upgrades by their competitors.

MHasegawa

11-09-2006, 01:52 PM

spoon wrote: Uh oh. Manny might not be happy with this one. And between the A's and the niners, the bay area might be left with only the Giants very soon. I guess 20 miles isn't really that far and the Sharks are in the area as well. But the proposed stadium won't even hold 40k!? WTF? I know the trend right now is a little smaller, but 35k??<a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061109&content_id=1737563&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb">http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061109&content_id=1737563&vkey=n ews_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb</a>   Fuck that, move them to Berkely or something.  I cant believe they were thiking of renaming the team, "Silicon Valley A's"??  Ill drop baseball for life if anything close to that happens.

Kevin

11-09-2006, 03:08 PM

<table class="tablehead" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0"><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="3">Thursday, November 9</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td align="center"><div><img alt="Aramis Ramirez" src="http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/65x90/6014.jpg" border="0" /></div><div class="bi"><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6014">Aramis Ramirez</a></div><div>Cubs</div></td><td><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=lad">Dodgers</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=laa">Angels</a>?</div></td><td><div class="bi">Clock is ticking for Cubs</div><div>Nov 9 - Time is running out for the Cubs to re-sign Aramis Ramirez. According to the Chicago Tribune, Cubs GM Jim Hendry is looking for ways to keep Ramirez on the North Side, but his demands -- five years, $75 million -- might be too high. Nov. 11 is the final day the Cubs have exclusive negotiating rights before the Angels and Dodgers lead a group of potential suitors for the free-agent third baseman. Because it's unlikely the Cubs will get into a bidding war, Ramirez probably will get a take-it-or-leave-it offer from the Cubs. Ramirez, 28, is coming off a season in which he hit .291 with 38 home runs, 119 RBI and a .561 slugging percentage that ranked second among all major-league third basemen.</div></td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"><td align="center"><div><img alt="Jason Schmidt" src="http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/65x90/5340.jpg" border="0" /></div><div class="bi"><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5340">Jason Schmidt</a></div><div>Giants</div></td><td><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=sea">Mariners</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=lad">Dodgers</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=bos">Red Sox</a>?</div></td><td><div class="bi">Ace in the hole</div><div>Nov 9 - The Dodgers and Mariners are expected to be major players in the Jason Schmidt sweepstakes. According to the Chicago Tribune, the Cubs also will make a run at the hard-throwing right-hander, but they probably won't go longer than four years because of the injury factor. </div></td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td align="center"><div><img alt="Carlos Lee" src="http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/65x90/6161.jpg" border="0" /></div><div class="bi"><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6161">Carlos Lee</a></div><div>Rangers</div></td><td><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=det">Tigers</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=chc">Cubs</a>?</div><div><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mlb/clubhouse?team=hou">Astros</a>?</div></td><td><div class="bi">Chicago revival?</div><div>Nov 9 - While some experts believe Carlos Lee will end up in Houston because he has a ranch there, sources close to Lee insist the Cubs are his preferred destination because of his numbers in Wrigley Field and a chance to show up the White Sox, the Chicago Tribune reports. The Tigers, who pursued Lee before the July trade deadline, also might renew their interest, the Detroit Free Press reports. </div></td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"><td align="center"><div><i

Bulldogcakes

11-09-2006, 03:21 PM

Sorry Mojo. But I hope the Cubbies lose Aramis Ramirez. I hope they lose him, the fans freak out and scream for Hendry's head, and then he replaces him by dealing Zambrano for A-Rod.

TheMojoPin

11-09-2006, 03:24 PM

If they don't bring Aramis back, there's zero reasons to not blow up this team.  Yeah, I'd trade Zambrano then...for as many top tier prospects and rookies as I could get.  Same with Lee, Michael Barrett and Jacque Jones.I think they sign him back, but I'm not gonna lie and say I'm not nervous as fuck.  I've seen this team screw things up too many times.  Aramis is definitely worth 5/75...PAY THAT MAN HIS MONEY.

Bulldogcakes

11-09-2006, 03:27 PM

spoon wrote: I know it's early but this is easily the best move of the year by the Indians and won't be easy to match. This kid is a pedigree and has proven he can play very well at this level in a huge park and will be moving to a much more hitter friendly park in Cleveland. Nice job, the Indians are looking to make a rebound in the now world series dominant AL Central Division. <a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061108&content_id=1737056&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb">http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061108&content_id=1737056&vkey=n ews_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb</a>   That is a steal and a half. If he adjusts well to changing leagues he'll help them alot. They already have two of the best, most underrated players in baseball playing for them in Grady Sizemore and Travis Hafner. They still need some pitching to compete with the Tigers, though.

cougarjake13

11-09-2006, 03:46 PM

spoon wrote:  Nice job, the Indians are looking to make a rebound in the now world series dominant AL Central Division. <a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061108&content_id=1737056&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb"></a>two years in a row now constitutes as world series dominant ???? so what was the yankees run considered ??

cougarjake13

11-09-2006, 03:49 PM

MHasegawa wrote:  spoon wrote: Uh oh. Manny might not be happy with this one. And between the A's and the niners, the bay area might be left with only the Giants very soon. I guess 20 miles isn't really that far and the Sharks are in the area as well. But the proposed stadium won't even hold 40k!? WTF? I know the trend right now is a little smaller, but 35k??<a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061109&content_id=1737563&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb">http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061109&content_id=1737563&vkey=n ews_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb</a>Fuck that, move them to Berkely or something.  I cant believe they were thiking of renaming the team, "Silicon Valley A's"??  Ill drop baseball for life if anything close to that happens. who ever thought we might see the day of the fremont a's and the santa clara 49ers

This message was edited by cougarjake13 on 11-9-06 @ 7:50 PM

TheMojoPin

11-11-2006, 02:52 PM

<a href="http://progressiveboink.com/dugout/archive/b28.html" target="_blank">IT'S MATSUZAKA MADNESS!!!  EVERYTHING MUST GO!!!</a>

Kevin

11-11-2006, 04:18 PM

I think the reason why this is taking so long is because the Japanese team is afraid that because the rumored Redsox bid is so high, they just put it up there with no intention to sign Matsuzaka and pay the thing, just to block the Yankees. They may be trying to find out if they are serious or not. If not just tell MLB to disqualify the bid. I have not heard it from anywhere, its just my thoughts.

This message was edited by Kevin on 11-11-06 @ 8:20 PM

Bulldogcakes

11-11-2006, 04:36 PM

Kevin wrote: I think the reason why this is taking so long is because the Japanese team is afraid that because the rumored Redsox bid is so high, they just put it up there with no intention to sign Matsuzaka and pay the thing, just to block the Yankees. They may be trying to find out if they are serious or not. If not just tell MLB to disqualify the bid. I have not heard it from anywhere, its just my thoughts. Good point. Makes sense to me. If I were them, I'd want to do my homework. Especially with it being reported the next highest bid is 22 mil from Texas. EDIT-From the Boston HeraldThe Lions only know the amount, not the identity of the bidder. There goes that theory. They have till tuesday to accept.   

This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 11-11-06 @ 9:53 PM

TheMojoPin

11-11-2006, 05:00 PM

That's if the rumor is even true.  While it's been reported in more places than any other rumor, it's not any more close to being verified than anything else that's been said.  I've also heard the Angels got a bid in, too, so it's still coming out more teams were throwing money than initially reported.  I think another strong possibility is that the Lions didn't get the money they expected and they're debating whether to take any of the offers.  If everyone involved submitted under $20 million or even $25 million and they were expecting $30 million or even more, they might reject the bids.  This guy is easily the top player over there right now, and they're losing a huge revenue source in him if when he heads over here.But yeah, verifying a $45 million bid makes sense, too.  That's probably a good $10 million more than they were hoping for.  It takes time to find your eyeballs after they popped out of your sockets in shock.

Kevin

11-11-2006, 07:08 PM

Bulldogcakes wrote:  Kevin wrote: I think the reason why this is taking so long is because the Japanese team is afraid that because the rumored Redsox bid is so high, they just put it up there with no intention to sign Matsuzaka and pay the thing, just to block the Yankees. They may be trying to find out if they are serious or not. If not just tell MLB to disqualify the bid. I have not heard it from anywhere, its just my thoughts.  Good point. Makes sense to me. If I were them, I'd want to do my homework. Especially with it being reported the next highest bid is 22 mil from Texas. EDIT-From the Boston Herald The Lions only know the amount, not the identity of the bidder.    There goes that theory. They have till tuesday to accept.   This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 11-11-06 @ 9:53 PM Yea but if it was leaked out to us that it was the Redsox that bid 45 mil, It was leaked to the Japanese team. And with all the rumors going around that the Sox were bidding just to block the Yankees, i still think my theory could be true. I do not see any other reason for such a delay. Unless the Mojo theory holds true that the bidding was the exact opposite, too low. That is the only 2 reason i could think of for it taking so long. Otherwise, what is there to think about? You place the guy for bid, you get the bid, and you say yes or no, it is not that difficult.

Gvac

11-11-2006, 09:26 PM

Excuse me, but all this talk of free agents and Japanese superstars is meaningless. The Reds have signed Bubba Crosby.  World Series here we come!

Earlshog

11-11-2006, 09:32 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: That's if the rumor is even true.  While it's been reported in more places than any other rumor, it's not any more close to being verified than anything else that's been said.  I've also heard the Angels got a bid in, too, so it's still coming out more teams were throwing money than initially reported.  I think another strong possibility is that the Lions didn't get the money they expected and they're debating whether to take any of the offers.  If everyone involved submitted under $20 million or even $25 million and they were expecting $30 million or even more, they might reject the bids.  This guy is easily the top player over there right now, and they're losing a huge revenue source in him if when he heads over here.But yeah, verifying a $45 million bid makes sense, too.  That's probably a good $10 million more than they were hoping for.  It takes time to find your eyeballs after they popped out of your sockets in shock.the cubs don't need him.. they got wade miller.. you would have thought the cubs would be the last team to add a an injury bitch to the rotation

spoon

11-12-2006, 01:12 AM

Kevin wrote: Bulldogcakes wrote:  Kevin wrote: I think the reason why this is taking so long is because the Japanese team is afraid that because the rumored Redsox bid is so high, they just put it up there with no intention to sign Matsuzaka and pay the thing, just to block the Yankees. They may be trying to find out if they are serious or not. If not just tell MLB to disqualify the bid. I have not heard it from anywhere, its just my thoughts.  Good point. Makes sense to me. If I were them, I'd want to do my homework. Especially with it being reported the next highest bid is 22 mil from Texas. EDIT-From the Boston Herald The Lions only know the amount, not the identity of the bidder.    There goes that theory. They have till tuesday to accept.   This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 11-11-06 @ 9:53 PM Yea but if it was leaked out to us that it was the Redsox that bid 45 mil, It was leaked to the Japanese team. And with all the rumors going around that the Sox were bidding just to block the Yankees, i still think my theory could be true. I do not see any other reason for such a delay. Unless the Mojo theory holds true that the bidding was the exact opposite, too low. That is the only 2 reason i could think of for it taking so long. Otherwise, what is there to think about? You place the guy for bid, you get the bid, and you say yes or no, it is not that difficult.Since this whole thing started it was well known that the bidding would be public on Tuesday.  Just calm the fuck down and realize your team has about a 25% chance of landing him and other teams like mine are at 0%.  We get it, if the yanks don't get him the other team was just blocking right?  I hope he stays in Japan.

spoon

11-12-2006, 01:13 AM

CJ, I'm only ripping my division as the AL Central keeps putting out of left field teams into the WS while the big timer yank and sox teams keep floppin.  So yes, hell of a streak!

TheMojoPin

11-12-2006, 03:30 AM

Aramis Ramirez is going to "test free agency."This is so unnacceptable I can't even find the words.  It's not losing Maddux the 1st time around, but it's pretty fucking close.

crb1

11-12-2006, 03:42 AM

TheMojoPin wrote: Aramis Ramirez is going to "test free agency."This is so unnacceptable I can't even find the words.  It's not losing Maddux the 1st time around, but it's pretty fucking close.Well, that's crap.  Have you heard what the Cubs best offer to him was?

Bulldogcakes

11-12-2006, 04:59 AM

TheMojoPin wrote: Aramis Ramirez is going to "test free agency."This is so unnacceptable I can't even find the words. It's not losing Maddux the 1st time around, but it's pretty fucking close. WHY THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!! I AM FURIOUS!!! FURIOUS I TELL YOU!!! <blockquote />        Umm . . . . I still have a little ol 3B'er for you. Maybe you know, we can work something out . . . . .

Kevin

11-12-2006, 08:04 AM

spoon wrote: Kevin wrote: Bulldogcakes wrote:  Kevin wrote: I think the reason why this is taking so long is because the Japanese team is afraid that because the rumored Redsox bid is so high, they just put it up there with no intention to sign Matsuzaka and pay the thing, just to block the Yankees. They may be trying to find out if they are serious or not. If not just tell MLB to disqualify the bid. I have not heard it from anywhere, its just my thoughts.  Good point. Makes sense to me. If I were them, I'd want to do my homework. Especially with it being reported the next highest bid is 22 mil from Texas. EDIT-From the Boston Herald The Lions only know the amount, not the identity of the bidder.    There goes that theory. They have till tuesday to accept.   This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 11-11-06 @ 9:53 PM Yea but if it was leaked out to us that it was the Redsox that bid 45 mil, It was leaked to the Japanese team. And with all the rumors going around that the Sox were bidding just to block the Yankees, i still think my theory could be true. I do not see any other reason for such a delay. Unless the Mojo theory holds true that the bidding was the exact opposite, too low. That is the only 2 reason i could think of for it taking so long. Otherwise, what is there to think about? You place the guy for bid, you get the bid, and you say yes or no, it is not that difficult.Since this whole thing started it was well known that the bidding would be public on Tuesday.  Just calm the fuck down and realize your team has about a 25% chance of landing him and other teams like mine are at 0%.  We get it, if the yanks don't get him the other team was just blocking right?  I hope he stays in Japan.Can you leave your anti Yankee Bias at the door for once?? None of us are fucking claiming that the Yankees came in 1st or fucking 2nd. We are just speculating on why the thing is taking so long when past bids for Japanese players were announced a day or 2 after the bidding was closed.Coupled with the size gap between reported 1st and 2nd bids, we are speculating that that is the reason why its taking so long. It has nothing to do with the Yankees winning, And none of us Yankee fans even said it.

cougarjake13

11-12-2006, 10:42 AM

mojo can rejoice !!!!!!!!!!Ramirez staying put after all <a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6163558">http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6163558</a> maybe the angels will make a play for a rod now

goreds2

11-12-2006, 10:59 AM

HERE IS THE REDS BIG MOVE THIS WEEK:  CINCINNATI - The Cincinnati Reds and free agent OF Bubba Crosby have agreed to terms on a 1-year Major League contract for the 2007 season, general manager Wayne Krivsky announced today. Terms of the contract were not disclosed. Crosby, 30, last season appeared in 65 games for the New York Yankees and 22 games at Class AAA Columbus. In June he also made 3 rehabilitation appearances at Class A Tampa while recovering from a right hamstring injury. Originally selected by the Los Angeles Dodgers with the 23rd pick of the first round of the June 1998 first-year player draft, in his career Crosby has appeared in 205 games for the Los Angeles Dodgers and Yankees. He was traded from the Dodgers to New York on July 31, 2003, along with RHP Scott Proctor, in exchange for 3B Robin Ventura.Here are the rumored players we may go after:Here's a list of five free agents who could fit into the Reds' plans: RHP Gil Meche: He was 11-8 with a 4.48 ERA with Seattle. Relatively cheap way to upgrade the rotation. 1B Eduardo Perez: He'd make a nice platoon mate for Scott Hatteberg. He hit .253 with nine home runs and 33 RBI in only 186 at-bats last year. A great clubhouse guy. RHP Scott Williamson: Health is always a question. When he's sound, his stuff is overwhelming. Still lives in the Cincinnati area. RHP Justin Speier: Went 2-0 with a 2.98 ERA with Toronto. Struck out 55 in 51 1/3 innings. LHP Steve Kline: Went 4-3 with a 3.66 ERA with San Francisco. A top lefty specialist.

Kevin

11-12-2006, 11:01 AM

We must now conciede the WS to Gvac's Reds. What a move! If those awful 83 win Cards could do it, anyone could!

TheMojoPin

11-12-2006, 12:51 PM

cougarjake13 wrote: mojo can rejoice !!!!!!!!!!Ramirez staying put after all <a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6163558">http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6163558</a> maybe the angels will make a play for a rod nowThank the good fucking Lord.  This totally made up for an incredibly shitty day of work and a likely loss by the Bears tonight.  Looks like they signed Wood back cheap, too.  As oong as they plan to work him into being Kerry Wood: Super Closer, I'm cool with it.  The Wade Miller signing was smart, too...but I want them to get someone like Zito and Schmidt and then someone like Padilla before they call it a day.  And if they don't try to pick up JD Drew, I'm kicking someone.Oh, cougar, Aramis' former team was...the Pirates.  Just to keep everything linked.And I'd still like to see the Cubs try for ARod in a multi-team deal.  I'd much rather have him at SS where he belongs instead of 3rd.

spoon

11-12-2006, 02:02 PM

Kevin wrote: spoon wrote: Kevin wrote: Bulldogcakes wrote:  Kevin wrote: I think the reason why this is taking so long is because the Japanese team is afraid that because the rumored Redsox bid is so high, they just put it up there with no intention to sign Matsuzaka and pay the thing, just to block the Yankees. They may be trying to find out if they are serious or not. If not just tell MLB to disqualify the bid. I have not heard it from anywhere, its just my thoughts.  Good point. Makes sense to me. If I were them, I'd want to do my homework. Especially with it being reported the next highest bid is 22 mil from Texas. EDIT-From the Boston Herald The Lions only know the amount, not the identity of the bidder.    There goes that theory. They have till tuesday to accept.   This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 11-11-06 @ 9:53 PM Yea but if it was leaked out to us that it was the Redsox that bid 45 mil, It was leaked to the Japanese team. And with all the rumors going around that the Sox were bidding just to block the Yankees, i still think my theory could be true. I do not see any other reason for such a delay. Unless the Mojo theory holds true that the bidding was the exact opposite, too low. That is the only 2 reason i could think of for it taking so long. Otherwise, what is there to think about? You place the guy for bid, you get the bid, and you say yes or no, it is not that difficult.Since this whole thing started it was well known that the bidding would be public on Tuesday.  Just calm the fuck down and realize your team has about a 25% chance of landing him and other teams like mine are at 0%.  We get it, if the yanks don't get him the other team was just blocking right?  I hope he stays in Japan.Can you leave your anti Yankee Bias at the door for once?? None of us are fucking claiming that the Yankees came in 1st or fucking 2nd. We are just speculating on why the thing is taking so long when past bids for Japanese players were announced a day or 2 after the bidding was closed.Coupled with the size gap between reported 1st and 2nd bids, we are speculating that that is the reason why its taking so long. It has nothing to do with the Yankees winning, And none of us Yankee fans even said it. Just as soon as you get less myopic in your approach.  Something needs to balance out all this babble and whiny bitching about him.  You act as though you're just looking at it from the perspective of the overall league!!  Give me a fucking break!  If there is any bias here it's yours.  Hence the reason you're so mad about the whole block fucktard.

spoon

11-12-2006, 02:04 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: cougarjake13 wrote: mojo can rejoice !!!!!!!!!!Ramirez staying put after all <a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6163558">http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6163558</a> maybe the angels will make a play for a rod nowThank the good fucking Lord.  This totally made up for an incredibly shitty day of work and a likely loss by the Bears tonight.  Looks like they signed Wood back cheap, too.  As oong as they plan to work him into being Kerry Wood: Super Closer, I'm cool with it.  The Wade Miller signing was smart, too...but I want them to get someone like Zito and Schmidt and then someone like Padilla before they call it a day.  And if they don't try to pick up JD Drew, I'm kicking someone.Oh, cougar, Aramis' former team was...the Pirates.  Just to keep everything linked.And I'd still like to see the Cubs try for ARod in a multi-team deal.  I'd much rather have him at SS where he belongs instead of 3rd.No no!  Trade for Arod and make him your catcher!

cougarjake13

11-12-2006, 02:12 PM

spoon wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: cougarjake13 wrote: mojo can rejoice !!!!!!!!!!Ramirez staying put after all <a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6163558">http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6163558</a> maybe the angels will make a play for a rod nowThank the good fucking Lord.  This totally made up for an incredibly shitty day of work and a likely loss by the Bears tonight.  Looks like they signed Wood back cheap, too.  As oong as they plan to work him into being Kerry Wood: Super Closer, I'm cool with it.  The Wade Miller signing was smart, too...but I want them to get someone like Zito and Schmidt and then someone like Padilla before they call it a day.  And if they don't try to pick up JD Drew, I'm kicking someone.Oh, cougar, Aramis' former team was...the Pirates.  Just to keep everything linked.And I'd still like to see the Cubs try for ARod in a multi-team deal.  I'd much rather have him at SS where he belongs instead of 3rd.No no!  Trade for Arod and make him your catcher!i think the problem is he's jeter's personal cathcher

cougarjake13

11-13-2006, 11:34 AM

verlander and ramirez named rookie of the years<a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6167070">http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6167070</a>im not surprised about verlander but i thought zimmerman was going to win the nl

crb1

11-13-2006, 11:40 AM

cougarjake13 wrote: verlander and ramirez named rookie of the years<a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6167070">http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6167070</a>im not surprised about verlander but i thought zimmerman was going to win the nlThe Marlins had 3 of the top 4 players in the final voting too.  It's like the Dodgers in the early 90's, when they ran off all those ROYs in consecutive years.  I think they had Piazza, Karros, Hollandsworth and someone else win back to back.  I forget who the other player was.  Nomo, maybe?With that much young talent, I have to once again restate my opinion that they need to lock up Dontrelle.  He'll only be 25 next season, and they can afford his contract.  Too bad they're more concerned with holding the Miami-area hostage, until they get a new stadium deal than they are with winning.  With the amount of young, cheap, quality players, it's not like they need a ton of high-priced veterans to make a run at the postseason.

cougarjake13

11-13-2006, 11:45 AM

crb1 wrote: cougarjake13 wrote: verlander and ramirez named rookie of the years<a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6167070">http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6167070</a>im not surprised about verlander but i thought zimmerman was going to win the nlThe Marlins had 3 of the top 4 players in the final voting too.  It's like the Dodgers in the early 90's, when they ran off all those ROYs in consecutive years.  I think they had Piazza, Karros, Hollandsworth and someone else win back to back.  I forget who the other player was.  Nomo, maybe?With that much young talent, I have to once again restate my opinion that they need to lock up Dontrelle.  He'll only be 25 next season, and they can afford his contract.  Too bad they're more concerned with holding the Miami-area hostage, until they get a new stadium deal than they are with winning.  With the amount of young, cheap, quality players, it's not like they need a ton of high-priced veterans to make a run at the postseason.5 in a row dodger roy's 92 eric karros93 mike piazza94 raul mondesi95 hideo nomo96 todd hollandsworth

crb1

11-13-2006, 11:54 AM

cougarjake13 wrote: 5 in a row dodger roy's 92 eric karros93 mike piazza94 raul mondesi95 hideo nomo96 todd hollandsworthGood call, CJ.  I completely forgot about Mondesi.  5 in a row is very impressive as long as you put aside their long term results, except for Piazza.

cougarjake13

11-13-2006, 12:02 PM

crb1 wrote: cougarjake13 wrote: 5 in a row dodger roy's 92 eric karros93 mike piazza94 raul mondesi95 hideo nomo96 todd hollandsworthGood call, CJ.  I completely forgot about Mondesi.  5 in a row is very impressive as long as you put aside their long term results, except for Piazza.hell its not even the first time the dodgers had multiple roy's79  sutcliffe80 steve howe81 fernando valenzuela82 steve saxkarros, mondesi and nomo had decent careers, the only bad apple in the bunch was hollandsworth

Kevin

11-13-2006, 12:25 PM

I think blocking him for the year is incredibly stupid. Now Texas probably had the top bid. And would of signed him for 3-5 years, Now if the Japanese team rejects the bid, or you do not sign him,He will be a Fa next year and the Yanks will DEFANATLY sign him. All you did was make sure he is a Yankee next year. If you sign him, he is going to cost you 90-100 mil for 5 years 70-75 mil for 3, He better fucking be Sandy fucking  Koufax, Stupid.

This message was edited by Kevin on 11-13-06 @ 4:29 PM

cougarjake13

11-13-2006, 12:46 PM

what mlb and selig should do is pay the bid fee, find out what the team wants in exchange for talking to him and then he can speak with any team that may want his services, that way the little guy who may not be able to afford the bid fee and then the contract but may be able to afford to sign him to a contractyeh big market teams may be able to just outmoney the little guy under this scenario but some small market team may take the risk this way

Kevin

11-13-2006, 12:50 PM

cougarjake13 wrote: what mlb and selig should do is pay the bid fee, find out what the team wants in exchange for talking to him and then he can speak with any team that may want his services, that way the little guy who may not be able to afford the bid fee and then the contract but may be able to afford to sign him to a contractyeh big market teams may be able to just outmoney the little guy under this scenario but some small market team may take the risk this wayYea the whole process is so fucking retarded. its fucking extortion. A team gets 20- whatever to give up a year of FA for the player? If i were the teams i would say fuck it, I can wait a fucking year and just sign him when he is a fa. I could understand if he is 2-3-5 years from FA, but 1 year? You can't wait one year?

cougarjake13

11-13-2006, 12:52 PM

Kevin wrote: cougarjake13 wrote: what mlb and selig should do is pay the bid fee, find out what the team wants in exchange for talking to him and then he can speak with any team that may want his services, that way the little guy who may not be able to afford the bid fee and then the contract but may be able to afford to sign him to a contractyeh big market teams may be able to just outmoney the little guy under this scenario but some small market team may take the risk this wayYea the whole process is so fucking retarded. its fucking extortion. A team gets 20- whatever to give up a year of FA for the player? If i were the teams i would say fuck it, I can wait a fucking year and just sign him when he is a fa. I could understand if he is 2-3-5 years from FA, but 1 year? You can't wait one year? true but then they have to eliminate the bidding process, b/c you know one team will say fuck it and try to get the guy earlyonly problem is that would piss off the people/owners of japan and selig is trying to make it a global game so it wont ever happen

Kevin

11-13-2006, 12:56 PM

cougarjake13 wrote: Kevin wrote: cougarjake13 wrote: what mlb and selig should do is pay the bid fee, find out what the team wants in exchange for talking to him and then he can speak with any team that may want his services, that way the little guy who may not be able to afford the bid fee and then the contract but may be able to afford to sign him to a contractyeh big market teams may be able to just outmoney the little guy under this scenario but some small market team may take the risk this wayYea the whole process is so fucking retarded. its fucking extortion. A team gets 20- whatever to give up a year of FA for the player? If i were the teams i would say fuck it, I can wait a fucking year and just sign him when he is a fa. I could understand if he is 2-3-5 years from FA, but 1 year? You can't wait one year? true but then they have to eliminate the bidding process, b/c you know one team will say fuck it and try to get the guy earlyonly problem is that would piss off the people/owners of japan and selig is trying to make it a global game so it wont ever happenFuck that, So Japanese teams should be allowed to extort teams just because MLB wants to make it a global game? MLB will be Global and Japanese players will come to America even if the Teams are pissed. After the shit load of money that Matsui and Ichiro make in Japan because they are in MLB, EVERY Japanese player want's to come to MLB.

cougarjake13

11-13-2006, 01:01 PM

Kevin wrote: cougarjake13 wrote: Kevin wrote: cougarjake13 wrote: what mlb and selig should do is pay the bid fee, find out what the team wants in exchange for talking to him and then he can speak with any team that may want his services, that way the little guy who may not be able to afford the bid fee and then the contract but may be able to afford to sign him to a contractyeh big market teams may be able to just outmoney the little guy under this scenario but some small market team may take the risk this wayYea the whole process is so fucking retarded. its fucking extortion. A team gets 20- whatever to give up a year of FA for the player? If i were the teams i would say fuck it, I can wait a fucking year and just sign him when he is a fa. I could understand if he is 2-3-5 years from FA, but 1 year? You can't wait one year? true but then they have to eliminate the bidding process, b/c you know one team will say fuck it and try to get the guy earlyonly problem is that would piss off the people/owners of japan and selig is trying to make it a global game so it wont ever happenFuck that, So Japanese teams should be allowed to extort teams just because MLB wants to make it a global game? MLB will be Global and Japanese players will come to America even if the Teams are pissed. After the shit load of money that Matsui and Ichiro make in Japan because they are in MLB, EVERY Japanese player want's to come to MLB.they shouldnt be allowed to but thats the system we got in place right now , kinda like the bcsbut it will all be a moot point when we have MLB East ( usa, canada, mexico) and MLB West ( japan, korea)

johnniewalker

11-13-2006, 01:52 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: cougarjake13 wrote: mojo can rejoice !!!!!!!!!!Ramirez staying put after all <a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6163558">http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6163558</a> maybe the angels will make a play for a rod nowThank the good fucking Lord. This totally made up for an incredibly shitty day of work and a likely loss by the Bears tonight. Looks like they signed Wood back cheap, too. As oong as they plan to work him into being Kerry Wood: Super Closer, I'm cool with it. The Wade Miller signing was smart, too...but I want them to get someone like Zito and Schmidt and then someone like Padilla before they call it a day. And if they don't try to pick up JD Drew, I'm kicking someone.Oh, cougar, Aramis' former team was...the Pirates. Just to keep everything linked.And I'd still like to see the Cubs try for ARod in a multi-team deal. I'd much rather have him at SS where he belongs instead of 3rd. I was surprised at how cheap they got Kerry Wood.  I'm glad he stayed in Chicago, I hope he can make a good comeback.  He's a good backup if Dempster blows up.

Kevin

11-13-2006, 01:54 PM

cougarjake13 wrote: Kevin wrote: cougarjake13 wrote: Kevin wrote: cougarjake13 wrote: what mlb and selig should do is pay the bid fee, find out what the team wants in exchange for talking to him and then he can speak with any team that may want his services, that way the little guy who may not be able to afford the bid fee and then the contract but may be able to afford to sign him to a contractyeh big market teams may be able to just outmoney the little guy under this scenario but some small market team may take the risk this wayYea the whole process is so fucking retarded. its fucking extortion. A team gets 20- whatever to give up a year of FA for the player? If i were the teams i would say fuck it, I can wait a fucking year and just sign him when he is a fa. I could understand if he is 2-3-5 years from FA, but 1 year? You can't wait one year? true but then they have to eliminate the bidding process, b/c you know one team will say fuck it and try to get the guy earlyonly problem is that would piss off the people/owners of japan and selig is trying to make it a global game so it wont ever happenFuck that, So Japanese teams should be allowed to extort teams just because MLB wants to make it a global game? MLB will be Global and Japanese players will come to America even if the Teams are pissed. After the shit load of money that Matsui and Ichiro make in Japan because they are in MLB, EVERY Japanese player want's to come to MLB.they shouldnt be allowed to but thats the system we got in place right now , kinda like the bcsbut it will all be a moot point when we have MLB East ( usa, canada, mexico) and MLB West ( japan, korea)There is no fucking way pamperd Major leauge baseball players are going on 25hour plane rides multiple times to go to Korea or Japan. People were bitching going once every 5 or 6 years, no way.

cougarjake13

11-13-2006, 02:30 PM

Kevin wrote: cougarjake13 wrote: Kevin wrote: cougarjake13 wrote: Kevin wrote: cougarjake13 wrote: what mlb and selig should do is pay the bid fee, find out what the team wants in exchange for talking to him and then he can speak with any team that may want his services, that way the little guy who may not be able to afford the bid fee and then the contract but may be able to afford to sign him to a contractyeh big market teams may be able to just outmoney the little guy under this scenario but some small market team may take the risk this wayYea the whole process is so fucking retarded. its fucking extortion. A team gets 20- whatever to give up a year of FA for the player? If i were the teams i would say fuck it, I can wait a fucking year and just sign him when he is a fa. I could understand if he is 2-3-5 years from FA, but 1 year? You can't wait one year? true but then they have to eliminate the bidding process, b/c you know one team will say fuck it and try to get the guy earlyonly problem is that would piss off the people/owners of japan and selig is trying to make it a global game so it wont ever happenFuck that, So Japanese teams should be allowed to extort teams just because MLB wants to make it a global game? MLB will be Global and Japanese players will come to America even if the Teams are pissed. After the shit load of money that Matsui and Ichiro make in Japan because they are in MLB, EVERY Japanese player want's to come to MLB.they shouldnt be allowed to but thats the system we got in place right now , kinda like the bcsbut it will all be a moot point when we have MLB East ( usa, canada, mexico) and MLB West ( japan, korea)There is no fucking way pamperd Major leauge baseball players are going on 25hour plane rides multiple times to go to Korea or Japan. People were bitching going once every 5 or 6 years, no way.i was thinking that after both our seasons are done the champs playunless they come up with a faster means of transportation

MHasegawa

11-13-2006, 09:20 PM

hanley ramirez- nl rookie of the yearjustin verlander- al rookie of the year

spoon

11-13-2006, 10:08 PM

Kevin wrote: I think blocking him for the year is incredibly stupid. Now Texas probably had the top bid. And would of signed him for 3-5 years, Now if the Japanese team rejects the bid, or you do not sign him,He will be a Fa next year and the Yanks will DEFANATLY sign him. All you did was make sure he is a Yankee next year. If you sign him, he is going to cost you 90-100 mil for 5 years 70-75 mil for 3, He better fucking be Sandy fucking  Koufax, Stupid.This message was edited by Kevin on 11-13-06 @ 4:29 PM Wait what?  That makes no sense at all as it at least makes the price tag come down some and more teams could at least try to work a deal out.  Hell, this guy may then look to be a huge Japanese player in a new city and create his own identity and Japanese link for that area.  He might not want to go somewhere like NY as well, you never know.  There are a lot more factors at play if it's open season versus a need for at least a 25 million dollar bid just to open the door.  There are very few teams that can even dwell on that thought.  Think a little before you type!

spoon

11-13-2006, 10:12 PM

“Matsuzaka will learn Tuesday whether the Seibu Lions have accepted a bid for him by a major league team.  Major League Baseball and the Japanese commissioner's office will make simultaneous announcements at 8 p.m. ET Tuesday (10 a.m. Tokyo time Wednesday), MLB spokesman Pat Courtney said Monday at the big league general managers' meetings.  The amount of the highest bid was forwarded by the major league commissioner's office to the Japanese commissioner's office last Wednesday, and the Lions have until Tuesday to accept. Only if the offer is accepted will the identity of the winning team be revealed.”……..“Some have speculated that the Boston bid is to block the Yankees, but sources told Gammons that is absolutety false. Boston badly wants the pitcher, the marketing revenues from the Japanese market and an entrance in the door of the future of Asian baseball.”Like I stated a million times, it all gets announced tonight.  It has been set up that way since the beggining, there are no delays just a timetable.

Kevin

11-13-2006, 10:12 PM

spoon wrote: Kevin wrote: I think blocking him for the year is incredibly stupid. Now Texas probably had the top bid. And would of signed him for 3-5 years, Now if the Japanese team rejects the bid, or you do not sign him,He will be a Fa next year and the Yanks will DEFANATLY sign him. All you did was make sure he is a Yankee next year. If you sign him, he is going to cost you 90-100 mil for 5 years 70-75 mil for 3, He better fucking be Sandy fucking  Koufax, Stupid.I am not even bother with you anymore, It’s a waste of time, from now i am now just going to say, Your right, i am wrong, oh glorious genius wizard of Ronfez.net... I bow to you.   <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/surrender.gif" border="0" /> Can i ask you What is meaning of life.... I would really to know

This message was edited by Kevin on 11-14-06 @ 2:17 AM

spoon

11-13-2006, 10:13 PM

Kevin wrote: spoon wrote: Kevin wrote: I think blocking him for the year is incredibly stupid. Now Texas probably had the top bid. And would of signed him for 3-5 years, Now if the Japanese team rejects the bid, or you do not sign him,He will be a Fa next year and the Yanks will DEFANATLY sign him. All you did was make sure he is a Yankee next year. If you sign him, he is going to cost you 90-100 mil for 5 years 70-75 mil for 3, He better fucking be Sandy fucking  Koufax, Stupid.This message was edited by Kevin on 11-14-06 @ 2:13 AM Nice edit.  English is fun, you should try it!

spoon

11-13-2006, 10:21 PM

Well Kevin, at least I back my points up with conjecture and try to validate these points versus you just ranting about your personal feelings linked to the outcome or impact it has on the yankees.  You really need to look in the mirror with your accusations buddy.  You can't take any dissent huh?  You'd make a great republican.  Perhaps you should only post about sports on the team sites only.

Kevin

11-13-2006, 10:29 PM

spoon wrote: Well Kevin, at least I back my points up with conjecture and try to validate these points versus you just ranting about your personal feelings linked to the outcome or impact it has on the yankees.  You really need to look in the mirror with your accusations buddy.  You can't take any dissent huh?  You'd make a great republican.  Perhaps you should only post about sports on the team sites only. You’re going by a statement of Peter fucking Gammons, the BIGGEST homer Redsox shill in sports history. This is a man that said he cried when they traded Bagwell away. And i FIRMLY! believe that this bid was made with the fucking INTENT to block the Yankees. But then the Redsox were forced by MLB to promise to get the contract done with the player so they do not tarnish their relationship with Japan. That is what happened. And no you fucking tard there is no fucking set time table to an announcement because the team that sold ichiro announced the fucking thing the next fucking day. This whole fucking hold up was the Jap team making sure the fucking Redsox have to eat that 42 mil bid to makes sure the Jap team does not lose out on at least 22mil that they would of gotten from the 2nd place bid . The rest is fucking spin you fucking tard. As as for my editing i type fast and do not catch mistakes that i make, so i go and edit them, that is what the fucking tool is there for.

This message was edited by Kevin on 11-14-06 @ 2:34 AM

spoon

11-13-2006, 10:33 PM

Last winter, Toronto's payroll jumped from roughly $46 million to $72 million. This offseason, the Jays' payroll is currently estimated to be around $80 million, including approximately $12.5 million to spend on acquisitions. While Toronto has yet to officially announce its payroll increase, it's been estimated that it will rise to between $90-95 million. If it's at $90 million, that means the Jays will have roughly $22.5 to spend this winter.  Good news on the payroll front for the Jays, but I doubt they'll ever get much higher than this unless they start making the playoffs.  RSN buying the team has helped and I'd assume they'll use a lot of this money to sign a shortstop (Lugo/Gonzalez), middle of the rotation pitcher or two (Lilly/Meche/Padilla/Meche/Wolf/Redman/Armas), and a starting catcher (Zaun/Molina/Baraja?).  Chances are they'll lose Lilly and Catalanotto to free agency bc their price tags are getting higher.  They may also look to put Hill back at short and sign a 2nd baseman as the market there is a little bigger this year but they have stated they'd like to go the other way.  I really hope they resign Speier but he too may be a little too costly.  Should be interesting for sure.

Kevin

11-13-2006, 10:36 PM

spoon wrote: Last winter, Toronto's payroll jumped from roughly $46 million to $72 million. This offseason, the Jays' payroll is currently estimated to be around $80 million, including approximately $12.5 million to spend on acquisitions. While Toronto has yet to officially announce its payroll increase, it's been estimated that it will rise to between $90-95 million. If it's at $90 million, that means the Jays will have roughly $22.5 to spend this winter.  Good news on the payroll front for the Jays, but I doubt they'll ever get much higher than this unless they start making the playoffs.  RSN buying the team has helped and I'd assume they'll use a lot of this money to sign a shortstop (Lugo/Gonzalez), middle of the rotation pitcher or two (Lilly/Meche/Padilla/Meche/Wolf/Redman/Armas), and a starting catcher (Zaun/Molina/Baraja?).  Chances are they'll lose Lilly and Catalanotto to free agency bc their price tags are getting higher.  They may also look to put Hill back at short and sign a 2nd baseman as the market there is a little bigger this year but they have stated they'd like to go the other way.  I really hope they resign Speier but he too may be a little too costly.  Should be interesting for sure. The prob is who really is out there? Soriano? i do not think your getting him. Zito? i heard he wants big market. I would use it to sign Wells to an ext. because i do not see very much out there.

spoon

11-13-2006, 10:44 PM

Kevin wrote: spoon wrote: Well Kevin, at least I back my points up with conjecture and try to validate these points versus you just ranting about your personal feelings linked to the outcome or impact it has on the yankees.  You really need to look in the mirror with your accusations buddy.  You can't take any dissent huh?  You'd make a great republican.  Perhaps you should only post about sports on the team sites only. You’re going by a statement of Peter fucking Gammons, the BIGGEST homer Redsox shill in sports history. This is a man that said he cried when they traded Bagwell away. And i FIRMLY! believe that this bid was made with the fucking INTENT to block the Yankees. But then the Redsox were forced by MLB to promise to get the contract done with the player so they do not tarnish their relationship with Japan. That is what happened. And no you fucking tard there is no fucking set time table to an announcement because the team that sold ichiro announced the fucking thing the next fucking day. This whole fucking hold up was the Jap team making sure the fucking Redsox have to eat that 42 mil bid to makes sure the Jap team does not lose out on at least 22mil that they would of gotten from the 2nd place bid . The rest is fucking spin you fucking tard. As as for my editing i type fast and do not catch mistakes that i make, so i go and edit them, that is what the fucking tool is there for. This message was edited by Kevin on 11-14-06 @ 2:34 AM Time for a vacation Mr. Grammar.....or should I call you Ms. Syntax??  So then how did I know weeks ago it was to be announced on Tuesday?  Your guessing game and fly-off-the-handle rants don't make you right or anyone else wrong.  Look it up and you'll see.  I have no clue as to the Ichiro deal bc it has no bearing in this discussion and I could care less, it's done.  And so Gammons cried and likes the Sox, has he lied before?  Not even close.  All reporters, especially those you read have their slant/bias but should continue to report facts especially those on a national stage.  Hell, you contradict your own statements sentence after sentence!  Do you FIRMLY believe it's a block, or will MLB force them to get a contract done and what happened?  So no matter what the Sox were blocking him even if they sign him huh?  That way you can claim you're right no matter what huh?  Stupid logic at it's finest.  The "fucking spin you fucktard" line you'll surely have to back up sometime soon.  It's a system in place and it's not being changed as you state bc it's not allowed.  Stop making up shit about a hold in which MLB and the Japanese team would be breaking their own rules.  It's not happening and you can't prove a thing.  It's not hapening.  If the block comes through, it's legal.  That's it.  But I doubt very much it's going to happen that way so go take a shower.

Kevin

11-13-2006, 10:52 PM

spoon wrote: Kevin wrote: spoon wrote: Well Kevin, at least I back my points up with conjecture and try to validate these points versus you just ranting about your personal feelings linked to the outcome or impact it has on the yankees.  You really need to look in the mirror with your accusations buddy.  You can't take any dissent huh?  You'd make a great republican.  Perhaps you should only post about sports on the team sites only. You’re going by a statement of Peter fucking Gammons, the BIGGEST homer Redsox shill in sports history. This is a man that said he cried when they traded Bagwell away. And i FIRMLY! believe that this bid was made with the fucking INTENT to block the Yankees. But then the Redsox were forced by MLB to promise to get the contract done with the player so they do not tarnish their relationship with Japan. That is what happened. And no you fucking tard there is no fucking set time table to an announcement because the team that sold ichiro announced the fucking thing the next fucking day. This whole fucking hold up was the Jap team making sure the fucking Redsox have to eat that 42 mil bid to makes sure the Jap team does not lose out on at least 22mil that they would of gotten from the 2nd place bid . The rest is fucking spin you fucking tard. As as for my editing i type fast and do not catch mistakes that i make, so i go and edit them, that is what the fucking tool is there for. This message was edited by Kevin on 11-14-06 @ 2:34 AM Time for a vacation Mr. Grammar.....or should I call you Ms. Syntax??  So then how did I know weeks ago it was to be announced on Tuesday?  Your guessing game and fly-off-the-handle rants don't make you right or anyone else wrong.  Look it up and you'll see.  I have no clue as to the Ichiro deal bc it has no bearing in this discussion and I could care less, it's done.  And so Gammons cried and likes the Sox, has he lied before?  Not even close.  All reporters, especially those you read have their slant/bias but should continue to report facts especially those on a national stage.  Hell, you contradict your own statements sentence after sentence!  Do you FIRMLY believe it's a block, or will MLB force them to get a contract done and what happened?  So no matter what the Sox were blocking him even if they sign him huh?  That way you can claim you're right no matter what huh?  Stupid logic at it's finest.  The "fucking spin you fucktard" line you'll surely have to back up sometime soon.  It's a system in place and it's not being changed as you state bc it's not allowed.  Stop making up shit about a hold in which MLB and the Japanese team would be breaking their own rules.  It's not happening and you can't prove a thing.  It's not hapening.  If the block comes through, it's legal.  That's it.  But I doubt very much it's going to happen that way so go take a shower.Gullible, people put spin on shit; rules are broken all the time privately. and btw. Every team has until a certain date to announce the bid, they could announce tomorrow or until the specified date. There is a freaking reason it took so long.  And the ichiro deal does have a fucking baring because it proves you wrong because it means the date in an announcement is not set. The reason why you got a Tuesday date was because the knew the date that he was going to go up for bid, the day it closes, and the time period they had to make a decision. What the fuck was there to think about if it was done legit? You put the player up for bid; you get a price, YES OR NO, THAT IS IT!

spoon

11-13-2006, 10:56 PM

Kevin wrote: spoon wrote: Last winter, Toronto's payroll jumped from roughly $46 million to $72 million. This offseason, the Jays' payroll is currently estimated to be around $80 million, including approximately $12.5 million to spend on acquisitions. While Toronto has yet to officially announce its payroll increase, it's been estimated that it will rise to between $90-95 million. If it's at $90 million, that means the Jays will have roughly $22.5 to spend this winter.  Good news on the payroll front for the Jays, but I doubt they'll ever get much higher than this unless they start making the playoffs.  RSN buying the team has helped and I'd assume they'll use a lot of this money to sign a shortstop (Lugo/Gonzalez), middle of the rotation pitcher or two (Lilly/Meche/Padilla/Meche/Wolf/Redman/Armas), and a starting catcher (Zaun/Molina/Baraja?).  Chances are they'll lose Lilly and Catalanotto to free agency bc their price tags are getting higher.  They may also look to put Hill back at short and sign a 2nd baseman as the market there is a little bigger this year but they have stated they'd like to go the other way.  I really hope they resign Speier but he too may be a little too costly.  Should be interesting for sure. The prob is who really is out there? Soriano? i do not think your getting him. Zito? i heard he wants big market. I would use it to sign Wells to an ext. because i do not see very much out there.There not after a big chip at short like Soriano (who will stay in the outfield by my guess), but someone like Lugo or Gonzalez to sure up the defense of the middle infield and add a more reliable bat vs that of McDonald who hit just over .200 last year filling in.  It was a major hole defensively and offensively and it should be the Jays main concern along with the Wells situation.  In fact, it may happen to tie in together as a potential trade could occur where the Jays move Wells for a better shortstop and the pitcher it needs and move Reed Johnson to center, Rios in right and this hot hitting new kid Lind in left.  They would need to shop for some DH help but they'd have a ton of money to deal with if they move Wells.  They would have to be uber wowed to have this occur though as Wells is an exponentially better chip then Shef and look what he garnered.  They'd probably ask for two pitching prospects/fringe MLB level, a sound shortstop, and perhaps another outfielder or catching prospect.  Who knows and this is purely my speculation on some possibilities as I've heard nothing out there like this.

Kevin

11-13-2006, 11:06 PM

spoon wrote: Kevin wrote: spoon wrote: Last winter, Toronto's payroll jumped from roughly $46 million to $72 million. This offseason, the Jays' payroll is currently estimated to be around $80 million, including approximately $12.5 million to spend on acquisitions. While Toronto has yet to officially announce its payroll increase, it's been estimated that it will rise to between $90-95 million. If it's at $90 million, that means the Jays will have roughly $22.5 to spend this winter.  Good news on the payroll front for the Jays, but I doubt they'll ever get much higher than this unless they start making the playoffs.  RSN buying the team has helped and I'd assume they'll use a lot of this money to sign a shortstop (Lugo/Gonzalez), middle of the rotation pitcher or two (Lilly/Meche/Padilla/Meche/Wolf/Redman/Armas), and a starting catcher (Zaun/Molina/Baraja?).  Chances are they'll lose Lilly and Catalanotto to free agency bc their price tags are getting higher.  They may also look to put Hill back at short and sign a 2nd baseman as the market there is a little bigger this year but they have stated they'd like to go the other way.  I really hope they resign Speier but he too may be a little too costly.  Should be interesting for sure. The prob is who really is out there? Soriano? i do not think your getting him. Zito? i heard he wants big market. I would use it to sign Wells to an ext. because i do not see very much out there.There not after a big chip at short like Soriano (who will stay in the outfield by my guess), but someone like Lugo or Gonzalez to sure up the defense of the middle infield and add a more reliable bat vs that of McDonald who hit just over .200 last year filling in.  It was a major hole defensively and offensively and it should be the Jays main concern along with the Wells situation.  In fact, it may happen to tie in together as a potential trade could occur where the Jays move Wells for a better shortstop and the pitcher it needs and move Reed Johnson to center, Rios in right and this hot hitting new kid Lind in left.  They would need to shop for some DH help but they'd have a ton of money to deal with if they move Wells.  They would have to be uber wowed to have this occur though as Wells is an exponentially better chip then Shef and look what he garnered.  They'd probably ask for two pitching prospects/fringe MLB level, a sound shortstop, and perhaps another outfielder or catching prospect.  Who knows and this is purely my speculation on some possibilities as I've heard nothing out there like this.  Yea I am sure other Gms are really pissed at the Tigers for that Move. If the Yanks got that much for a 39 yr old OF whom is a cancer to a team, and just came off a major injury, then what are other going to want for other players. I mean i would of just taken Sanchez alone. He was rated higher than Hughes in some boards, and to get him for Sheff, Who EVERYBODY knew we wanted gone, then 2 other young hard throwers is just ridicules.

spoon

11-13-2006, 11:09 PM

 Every team has until a certain date to announce the bid, they could announce tomorrow or until the specified date. There is a freaking reason it took so long.  They could, but they announced a long time ago that today they'd reveal the bid and if they accepted it.  Simple as that.  It's how they decided to do this and notice no other Japanese player bids have been announced yet either.

Kevin

11-13-2006, 11:11 PM

spoon wrote:  Every team has until a certain date to announce the bid, they could announce tomorrow or until the specified date. There is a freaking reason it took so long.  They could, but they announced a long time ago that today they'd reveal the bid and if they accepted it.  Simple as that.  It's how they decided to do this and notice no other Japanese player bids have been announced yet either Hold on, The japanese team announced a long time ago the exact date on when they were going to announce? If that is true, then i appologize, i was not reading it right.

crb1

11-14-2006, 03:49 AM

Kevin wrote: spoon wrote:  Every team has until a certain date to announce the bid, they could announce tomorrow or until the specified date. There is a freaking reason it took so long.  They could, but they announced a long time ago that today they'd reveal the bid and if they accepted it.  Simple as that.  It's how they decided to do this and notice no other Japanese player bids have been announced yet eitherHold on, The japanese team announced a long time ago the exact date on when they were going to announce? If that is true, then i appologize, i was not reading it right.We will finally find out tonight at 8pm (10 AM Wednesday in Japan) who won the bidding.  Thank god.

Kevin

11-14-2006, 08:30 AM

crb1 wrote: Kevin wrote: spoon wrote:  Every team has until a certain date to announce the bid, they could announce tomorrow or until the specified date. There is a freaking reason it took so long.  They could, but they announced a long time ago that today they'd reveal the bid and if they accepted it.  Simple as that.  It's how they decided to do this and notice no other Japanese player bids have been announced yet eitherHold on, The japanese team announced a long time ago the exact date on when they were going to announce? If that is true, then i appologize, i was not reading it right.We will finally find out tonight at 8pm (10 AM Wednesday in Japan) who won the bidding.  Thank god.Yea like the Arod Bos thing in 04, I did not care what happend, i just wanted the damn thing over with.