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Dirtybird12
02-14-2006, 09:03 PM
<p>Batman may utilise his extensive knowledge of caves to fight his latest foe - al-Qaeda.</p><p>Batman writer, Frank Miller, has told a comic-book convention that his upcoming novel, &quot;Holy Terror, Batman!&quot;<a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/entertainment/batman-to-kick-alqaedas-ass/2006/02/15/1139890788114.html" target="_self"> is a piece of propaganda</a>. &quot;Batman kicks al-Qaeda's ass,&quot; Miller said.</p>

HBox
02-14-2006, 09:07 PM
<img width="500" height="415" border="0" src="http://www.geocities.com/lollygang/party/pumpkin.vomit.jpg" />

legroommusic
02-14-2006, 09:46 PM
He is not called the caped CRUSADER for nothing. He dislikes arabs.

TheMojoPin
02-15-2006, 04:16 AM
My biggest problem with this is that with the exception of the series <em>300</em>, Miller has morphed into a really, REALLY shitty comic writer over the last decade or so.&nbsp; Even the last couple of <em>Sin City</em> books have been hideous, which makes the suggestion that he's going to write new SC tales for a proposed 3rd movie kinda depressing and sad.&nbsp; And his attempts to write Batman have been terrifying.&nbsp; At least <em>Dark Knight Strikes</em> <em>Back</em> had a few characters commenting on how friggin' nuts Batman seemed (though they apparently had no problem in general with the raving insane homophobic pedophile Miller apparently now sees him as), but the currently running <em>All Star Batman and Robin</em> gets my vote as the hands down shittiest comic of the year.

bobrobot
02-15-2006, 04:39 AM
<p><strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <font color="#000099">Batman's gay, just check in &quot;Seduction of the Innocent&quot; by Dr. Frederic Wertham! So why not let gays in the military? They can kick ass and fuck it too!!!</font></strong></p><p><img title="gay Batman" height="347" alt="gay Batman" src="http://www.fantascienza.com/magazine/imgbank/NEWS/batman.jpg" width="250" border="0" /></p>

JustJon
02-15-2006, 07:59 AM
<p>But how many women can Miller portray as hookers in it?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Riddle me this: how many female characters from Miller aren't hookers/whores/strippers/etc.?&nbsp;</p>

Sheeplovr
02-15-2006, 08:09 AM
<p><span class="postbody"> <em>All Star Batman and Robin</em> gets my vote as the hands down shittiest comic of the year</span></p><p>Whats
sadder is time between issues has been so long that i kept buying them
so now i have the 3 issues all suck i keep teling my self not again
aftr the first one i was like no way im not going to read this but then
i get it again and again</p><p>but I promise I wont get the 4 issue </p>

curtoid
02-15-2006, 09:48 AM
<strong>Sheeplovr</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><span class="postbody"><em>All Star Batman and Robin</em> gets my vote as the hands down shittiest comic of the year</span> <p>&nbsp;</p><p>Whats sadder is time between issues has been so long that i kept buying them so now i have the 3 issues all suck i keep teling my self not again aftr the first one i was like no way im not going to read this but then i get it again and again</p><p>but I promise I wont get the 4 issue </p><p>Same thing with me, except I know I'll keep shelling out money for this disappointing piece of shit. I keep holding out that something happens.</p>

EliSnow
02-15-2006, 10:06 AM
<strong>TheMojoPin</strong> wrote:<br />but the currently running <em>All Star Batman and Robin</em> gets my vote as the hands down shittiest comic of the year. <p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">I quit reading after the first issue.&nbsp; It's unbelievable how bad ASB&amp;R is, and how good All Star Supes is.</font></p>

nevnut
02-15-2006, 03:22 PM
I just love the pumpkin pic. I've got an old toilet in the back yard, next Halloween that fuckin' prop is gettin set up in my yard.

Sheeplovr
02-15-2006, 03:40 PM
<p><span class="postbody"><font size="3" face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">All Star Supes is</font></span></p><p>oh
hell yeah its so great from art to story it's just a great book&nbsp;
not sure where it will go but i compleatly love it so far yeah after
2issues im really steping out on a ledge with that</p><p>and when i was
making my shop run tonight i brought up that Dennis Calero Calling up
the show to make the shop owner jelious he's a stern fan who also loved
ron and fez yet he doesnt rememebr when i was on and there was this
other guy in the shop who was mad because he missed the show today</p><p>ron and fez make the world go round&nbsp;</p>

booster11373
02-15-2006, 04:09 PM
<p>imo All Star Superman is not that great it's ok. It's just the all powerful Superman that Byrne's Man of Steel&nbsp;put and end to. I think we all agree that All Star Batman and Robin just sucks. Frank Miller has lost it, He cant write Batman any more Dark Knight strikes Back might be the biggest bomb in comics history. I hoping that once this run is over some one will come in and gives us good Batman and Robin stories enough with the origin stories and all writers adding there little spin on them, Just write a good B and R story please.</p>

TheMojoPin
02-15-2006, 05:05 PM
<p>This is how Superman is supposed to be.&nbsp; Byrne's revamp ultimately limited the character to a finitie set of ideas and stories.&nbsp; I won't miss it if it's tossed after all of this &quot;new Crisis.&quot;</p>

booster11373
02-15-2006, 06:27 PM
<strong>TheMojoPin</strong> wrote:<br /><p>This is how Superman is supposed to be.&nbsp; Byrne's revamp ultimately limited the character to a finitie set of ideas and stories.&nbsp; I won't miss it if it's tossed after all of this &quot;new Crisis.&quot;</p><p>Wow, I could'nt diasagree more. I felt it opened up a whole new side to Superman by making him more Human and all the issues that that brought with it. The importance of the Kents, I felt was a major step forward and really added to Superman as a whole. I felt that the omnipetent Superman just encouraged lazy writing.</p><p>To be honest. I really only started reading Superman comics after the Byrne revamp. The All star title is an out of continuty book so they can pretty much do what they please. </p>

TheMojoPin
02-15-2006, 07:01 PM
See, the Kents struck me as the biggest problem...he brought his dad back from the dead.&nbsp; So Superman, essentially a god on Earth, had now never suffered any kind of true loss.&nbsp; With his father dying when Clark was still growing up, I think that would have instilled a much stronger sense of the fragile nature of the humans around him, and given him more of a respect for life.&nbsp; With them both alive, what's he ever lost?&nbsp; If anything, Byrne made him LESS human.

legroommusic
02-15-2006, 08:06 PM
miller's running out of ideas. I bet he does batman vs. hurricane katrina

booster11373
02-16-2006, 04:34 AM
<strong>TheMojoPin</strong> wrote:<br />See, the Kents struck me as the biggest problem...he brought his dad back from the dead.&nbsp; So Superman, essentially a god on Earth, had now never suffered any kind of true loss.&nbsp; With his father dying when Clark was still growing up, I think that would have instilled a much stronger sense of the fragile nature of the humans around him, and given him more of a respect for life.&nbsp; With them both alive, what's he ever lost?&nbsp; If anything, Byrne made him LESS human. <p>I don't think Superman needs loss to make him a great character, I think he needs vunerability, And him bringing father&nbsp;was silly and was the whole Death of Superman storyline.</p>

EliSnow
02-16-2006, 05:00 AM
<p>mmm</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by EliSnow on 2-16-06 @ 9:55 AM</span>

EliSnow
02-16-2006, 05:07 AM
<strong>TheMojoPin</strong> wrote:<br />See, the Kents struck me as the biggest problem...he brought his dad back from the dead.&nbsp; So Superman, essentially a god on Earth, had now never suffered any kind of true loss.&nbsp; With his father dying when Clark was still growing up, I think that would have instilled a much stronger sense of the fragile nature of the humans around him, and given him more of a respect for life.&nbsp; With them both alive, what's he ever lost?&nbsp; If anything, Byrne made him LESS human. <p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">Okay, for some reason, my posts aren't showing up.</font></p><p><font face="Arial" size="3">Anyway, what I said, is that you don't need to lose someone to be human.&nbsp; I hope not, because I haven't lost someone that close yet.&nbsp; In order to show a human, three dimensional character, you need to show that person's strengths <u>and</u> weaknesses.</font></p><p><font face="Arial" size="3">One of the best way to do that is to have that person show true emotions in human interactions, such as happiness, anger, doubt, hope, fear, despair, etc.&nbsp; </font></p><p><font face="Arial" size="3">In Post-Crisis continuity (but before revealing his secret to Lois), Clark can express such emotions to his parents.&nbsp; They are his compass and when he has doubt or despairs, he can turn to them and get his bearings, etc.</font></p><p><font face="Arial" size="3">I'm not as familiar with Pre-Crisis Supes, but who could he express his true emotions to on a regular basis?&nbsp; He couldn't reveal them to anyone&nbsp;who knew him as Clark.&nbsp;&nbsp; Clark was&nbsp;a facade.&nbsp; And the only people who knew him as Supes (other superheroes) aren't around as much for him to do this.&nbsp; Further, he probably couldn't reveal that side of himself since he was the leader and needed to be strong, etc. for everyone.&nbsp; </font></p><p><font face="Arial" size="3">In comic books, loss is always used as a shortcut to a number of things - a reason to be a hero (Bats, Spidey, etc.), reason to show the weaker emotions (grief and/or anger when someone is harmed or dies).&nbsp; But it's not the only way to show those things.&nbsp; </font></p>

Se7en
02-16-2006, 05:30 AM
I agree with Mojo that Miller's nowhere near as good as he once was during his prime.&nbsp; However, I'll likely buy this, if for no other reason that it'll be refreshing to read a comic that's unabashadly pro-American and doesn't descend into the typical 'real patriots criticize their country endlessly!' bullshit that's somewhat en vogue in comics these days.&nbsp; &quot;Supreme Power&quot; anyone?