Club Soda Kenny in trouble.

[Death Metal Moe]

<p><a href="http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/jersey/index.ssf?/base/news-2/1139472859103140.xml&coll=1" target="_blank">Story Link</a></p><p>Seems Club Soday Kenny, the Ex-Dice cheerleader and current O&amp;A show semi-regular is actually a police officer and his rauncy stand up routine he's been doing might cost him his job and his pension.</p><p>This is fucked up. Kenny does do a very rough stand up routine, but what should that matter to anyone?&nbsp; This is total bullshit as long as he does his job with the police and he doesn't identify himself as a cop on stage.</p><p>I don't know if fan support will do anything but I'm ready to shoot off some E-mails if needed.&nbsp; ANyone have an opinion on this?&nbsp; ANyone care?</p>

[newport king]

if it's for content in his standup act thats bullshit. i remember a few years back a female cop posed for playboy in her uniform (may not have been the actual uniform) that, i can understand them getting up in arms about, but a comedy act?

[cupcakelove]

<p>A cop making rape jokes.&nbsp; You're right, I don't see where the conflict is there.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[newport king]

hannity's making some good points on the topic. i tend to think its a free speech issue.

[cupcakelove]

<p>I don't think anyone is arguing he shouldn't be allowed to do his
standup, but like any place you work, things you do in public can be
seen as a reflection of the company you work for and thats where the
problem is.&nbsp; I don't blame the police department at all, it was a
dumb move on Club Soda Kenny's part.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Death Metal Moe]

<strong>cupcakelove</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I don't think anyone is arguing he shouldn't be allowed to do his standup, but like any place you work, things you do in public can be seen as a reflection of the company you work for and thats where the problem is.&nbsp; I don't blame the police department at all, it was a dumb move on Club Soda Kenny's part.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>So a guy saying things is a setting that is known for being over the top is grounds for getting fired?&nbsp; He NEVER linked his job with his stand up.&nbsp; A man should have the right to have a personal life.&nbsp; You couldn't be more wrong.</p>

[jimmyNYC]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>Death Metal Moe</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>cupcakelove</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I
don't think anyone is arguing he shouldn't be allowed to do his
standup, but like any place you work, things you do in public can be
seen as a reflection of the company you work for and thats where the
problem is. I don't blame the police department at all, it was a dumb
move on Club Soda Kenny's part.</p><p> </p><p>So a guy
saying things is a setting that is known for being over the top is
grounds for getting fired? He NEVER linked his job with his stand up. A
man should have the right to have a personal life. You couldn't be more
wrong.&nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>i
don't think anyone will deny that kenny has the right to say what he
said. the problem is, and i agree with hannity on this, that some
people will only see him as a cop who made rape &amp; pedophilia jokes
&amp; that as a cop he should know better. personally i can seperate
the two so it doesn't bother me.<br />
</p><blockquote /><p>&nbsp;</p>

[cupcakelove]

<p>The statements he made in
public are the problem, not his personal life. They directly conflict with what the organizaion he works
for stands for. If anyone wants to be part of an organization,
especially a public one, they need to realize there are consequences to
the way they portray themselves. If you want to take your public life in
a completely different direction than that organization, that's fine,
but don't be shocked when they have problem with it. This is also
a big a liability to the police department. If some woman feels
Kenny might have mishandle her situation the police department is
already fighting an uphill battle because of the comments he made.<br />
</p><p> </p>





<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by cupcakelove on 2-9-06 @ 10:22 AM</span>

[walking joint]

i'm shocked to find out he was a cop.&nbsp;

[angrymissy]

<p>When you become a cop, I'm pretty sure you have to adhere to cop standards 24 hours a day, and that is made known when you start the job.&nbsp; While it may seem unfair, he probably knew that when he signed up for the job.&nbsp;</p><p>And yes, I agree with the previous poster... I can't believe he is a cop</p>

[Death Metal Moe]

<p>3rd me on that.&nbsp; I just figured he was a Dice Hanger On all these years.&nbsp; Guess it's all an act.</p><p>I mean it says a lot for how he kept his professional life out of it this whole time though.&nbsp; No one brought this up when he was best buddies with Dice?&nbsp; A man who brought working blue to America in the 80's?&nbsp; I would think people would have had a much bigger problem with that than him doing a stand-up routine.</p>

[Furtherman]

<strong>angrymissy</strong> wrote:<br /><p>When you become a cop, I'm pretty sure you have to adhere to cop standards 24 hours a day, and that is made known when you start the job.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Yea, they tell you that.... but even those who are paid to instruct that punch out every day, and many, many of them do not adhere to cop standards.&nbsp; They're human too.</p>

[Sheeplovr]

I thought he was some kind of Roady or Priavte Security guy <br />

[furie]

i just hope his pension isn't jeopardized.

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by furie on 2-9-06 @ 11:48 AM</span>

[FUNKMAN]

he's just playing out a fantasy

[Gvac]

This is an extremely interesting case because both sides of the argument can make very viable and compelling points.

Police officers, like many athletes, have a sort of "morality clause" in their contract which forbids them to conduct themselves in a way "unbefitting" of an officer of the law.

In his act, however, Kenny never mentions the fact that he's a cop and is, in fact, playing a role. Is it the same as if he was an actor in a movie portraying a despicable character, as Norton claims?

It will be up to the courts to decide, but I'll definitely be keeping a close eye on this one.

[Mr.Pants]

Did anybody listen to the routine? It was pretty shocking for any profession. It'll be interesting if the media will replay it if this becomes a big story.

[Death Metal Moe]

<strong>Mr.Pants</strong> wrote:<br />Did anybody listen to the routine? It was pretty shocking for any profession. It'll be interesting if the media will replay it if this becomes a big story. <p>I have it on my work computer, my home laptop and desktop and my iPod.</p><p>Great set.</p>

[torker]

<p><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/member_avatars/Black-Moe1.gif" border="0" /></p><p>This is why we can't have nice things.</p>

[Reephdweller]

I think it's bullshit. I mean I didn't know he was a cop, though regardless what he does in his free time isn't illegal and should be protected as free speech. I can understand the police departments stance to one respect, in the sense that if he was getting up in front a Klan meeting and speaking in a racist manner, however this was at a comedy venue and he was performing stand-up. Two very different things.

[Tenbatsuzen]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>Sheeplovr</strong> wrote:<br />I thought he was some kind of Roady or Priavte Security guy <br />
<p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Yes,
that's what I thought too, especially with all the work and the way he
yelled at XM for the way they handled security, travel, and
arrangements.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Surprised he was a cop, but not shocked he was a cop.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><blockquote /><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Death Metal Moe]

<strong>torker</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/member_avatars/Black-Moe1.gif" border="0" /> <p>&nbsp;</p><p>This is why we can't have nice things.</p><p>WHAT?!?</p>

[BigASSMember]

<img width="325" height="215" border="0" src="http://x7.putfile.com/2/3921305935.jpg" />

[suggums]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>Death Metal Moe</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>torker</strong> wrote:<br /><p> </p><img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/member_avatars/Black-Moe1.gif" /> <p> </p><p>This is why we can't have nice things.</p><p>WHAT?!?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Death Metal Madame Tussaud?&nbsp;</p>

[curtoid]

<div>I hope this doesn't fuck him up, however I find it tough to believe that he didn't know the potential consequences:</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div>&quot;I will keep my private life unsullied as an example to all and will behave in a manner that does not bring discredit to me or my agency. I will maintain courageous calm in the face of danger, scorn or ridicule; develope self-restraint; and be constantly mindful of the welfare of others. Honest in thought and deed in both my personal and official life, I will be exemplary in obeying the law and the regulations of my department.&quot; - The West Orange Police Department's Code of Ethics

[Doctor Manhattan]

<strong>Death Metal Moe</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>cupcakelove</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I don't think anyone is arguing he shouldn't be allowed to do his standup, but like any place you work, things you do in public can be seen as a reflection of the company you work for and thats where the problem is.&nbsp; I don't blame the police department at all, it was a dumb move on Club Soda Kenny's part.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>So a guy saying things is a setting that is known for being over the top is grounds for getting fired?&nbsp; He NEVER linked his job with his stand up.&nbsp; A man should have the right to have a personal life.&nbsp; You couldn't be more wrong.</p><p>edit: where the hell is my text?</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by SKW on 2-10-06 @ 12:20 PM</span>

[JPMNICK]

<p>his stand up stinks. but he, just like everyone else in this country has first amendment rights, so really this should be a non-issue. </p><p>Let the man make a living and do whatever he wants on his off hours. </p>

[Doctor Manhattan]

<strong>JPMNICK</strong> wrote:<br /><p>his stand up stinks. but he, just like everyone else in this country has first amendment rights, so really this should be a non-issue. </p><p>Let the man make a living and do whatever he wants on his off hours. </p><p><font color="#000066" size="2">It's not really a first amendment issue, he not being told not to do his act, they just don't want him to be a police officer if that is what he's doing on his off hours. And Police don't seem to really have off-hours, as I wrote in my post above (but didn't make it to the post) I think as a cop you are required to be &quot;on call&quot; 24/7 and have your gun and badge with you at all times, just in case.</font></p>