this is fucked up. chuck norris fans look!

[Iamnotatool]

<p><a href="http://www.november.org/thewall/cases/jones-sh/jones-sh.html">http://www.november.org/thewall/cases/jones-sh/jones-sh.html</a></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I say, yes she should die in prison.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>white people are so scared....</p>

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<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font>white people are so scared.... ....of Chuck Norris?<br />

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There's always so much more to a story than that one side.&nbsp; I'd like to see the case the cops had against her and the others in that area.&nbsp; Of course false arrests and things of that nature happen all the time, so if the cops had nothing, it's a real problem.&nbsp; I also think that having Chuck Norris acting like a cop is a fucking BAD IDEA all around, and I would have my lawyers bringing up the fact that a TV/Movie actor was arresting me.&nbsp; They should have some sort of leverage because of it, seriously.&nbsp; Arresting people in a suspected drug ring isn't a fucking laughing matter, it's serious business.&nbsp; I don't want to see Chuck Norris there.

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This is why I started to stay away from drugs and people w/ drugs around my 18th birthday.&nbsp; It's not worth going to fucking jail for.

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[newport king]

<p>I had nothing to do with one particular couple's drug involvement.</p><p>that statement makes me think she was somehow involved in someone elses. and she made a giagantic leap from taking a phone call to a life sentence. somethings not right with this story. </p><p>i know a cop, who was in charge of the D.A.R.E. program in my city who got pinched with exctasy weed and steroids. (and not a little bit) he did like a year and a half. this woman takes a phonecall and gets life? doesn't seem right.</p>

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[trackstand]

<p>The Greaseman was a cop?</p>

[Death Metal Moe]

<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font>This is why I started to stay away from drugs and people w/ drugs around my 18th birthday.&nbsp; It's not worth going to fucking jail for. <br /><img src="http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a63/angrymissy/newsig.gif" border="0" /> &quot;To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.&quot; [ Theodore Roosevelt ] Yep.&nbsp; I had some friends who were shoplifting all the time and I dropped them all when I started to see that because store owners knew I was friends with them, they suspected me as well.&nbsp; Fuck that.&nbsp; I won't have the company I keep bring down my good name.<br />

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<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font>Yep.&nbsp; I had some friends who were shoplifting all the time and I dropped them all when I started to see that because store owners knew I was friends with them, they suspected me as well.&nbsp; Fuck that.&nbsp; I won't have the company I keep bring down my good name.<br /><p><img height="154" src="http://www.24-7simpsons.com/apu%201.jpg" width="273" border="0" /></p><p>Oh here comes Death Metal Moe!&nbsp; Finally, a good egg.<br /></p>

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[SouthSideJohnny]

<p><font face="Palatino Linotype"><font size="2">In the end, I was indicted, along with my mother, sister, brother, and several others for seven counts of drug distribution.</font>&nbsp; .&nbsp; . <font size="2">The jury found me guilty of one count of conspiracy. Later, I was sentenced to life in prison. I was found 'not guilty' on six other counts.</font></font></p><p><font face="Palatino Linotype" size="2">Bullshit!!!&nbsp; Show me one prisoner that doesn't bitch about how they were wrongfully convicted.&nbsp; This story is more fictional than any movie Chuck Norris ever did.&nbsp; I am very familiar with our justice system, and I know innocent people can be convicted.&nbsp; However, they don't indict the whole family if you make one innocent phone call.&nbsp; Also, nobody gets life in prison for conspiracy to distribute drugs!!&nbsp; They rarely even give life in prison for conspiracy to commit murder.&nbsp; The fact that her partner allegedly sued and won the lawsuit is completely irrelevant and has nothing to do with the conviction of this lady.&nbsp; The whole story is ridiculous.</font></p>

[torker]

<p>They asked me to help them find some people that would buy drugs, so they could afford legal and family help. <br />During that call, I explained I would try to help them, but I did not know anyone drug involved. That was a monitored phone call. I had brought myself into a broad 'drug conspiracy,&quot; and the dark skinned, witch-hunt raged through our community. </p><p>'Dark skinned witch-hunt'?&nbsp; You agreed to help distribute drugs.&nbsp; </p><p><img height="675" src="http://www.tvshowcentral.net/tvshows/walker/walker_show_3.jpg" width="476" border="0" /></p><p>Thank you, Mr. Chuck Norris.</p>

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[EliSnow]

Life in prison for being found guilty of conspiracy?&nbsp; Even with all of the other bullshit, I find this claim to be the worst.

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[FUNKMAN]

<p><font size="1">I also think that having Chuck Norris acting like a cop is a fucking BAD IDEA </font></p><p>ANY acting by Chuck Norris is a bad idea!!!</p><p>laws are the laws but how the heck do you give this girl life in prison and corporate executives steal millions of dollars and get less than 10 years? just shows you how fucked up our system of justice can be at times...</p>

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[EliSnow]

<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>laws are the laws but how the heck do you give this girl life in prison and corporate executives steal millions of dollars and get less than 10 years? just shows you how fucked up our system of justice can be at times...</p>You're assuming that she's telling the truth.&nbsp; As I said above, I highly doubt someone could get life in prison for this.<br />

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[Recyclerz]

<p>Obviously,&nbsp;I don't know the facts of the case Tool has highlighted (and that Li'l Chuckie apparently &quot;solved&quot;) but I wouldn't reject the woman's side of the story out of hand.&nbsp; Below are two links about another case of Texas justice that went a little awry.</p><p><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'times new roman'; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: en-us; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa"><a href="http://www.law.nyu.edu/pubs/magazine/autumn2004/p53.pdf" target="_self"><font color="#800080">http://www.law.nyu.edu/pubs/magazine/autumn2004/p53.pdf</font></a></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'times new roman'; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: en-us; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa"><a href="http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript_tulia.html"><font color="#800080">http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript_tulia.html</font></a></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'times new roman'; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: en-us; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa"><font face="verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="1">For those of you with carpal tunnel, this is the story of Tulia, TX where one (award-winning) Texas lawman singlehandedly smashed the crack epidemic in his town by getting 35 individuals arrested and convicted and sent away.&nbsp; (You can probably guess that their melatonin levels were pretty similar.)&nbsp; One li'l problem: there wasn't any crack.</font></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'times new roman'; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: en-us; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa"><font face="Verdana" size="1" /></span></p>

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<p><font size="1">You're assuming that she's telling the truth.&nbsp; As I said above, I highly doubt someone could get life in prison for this</font></p><p>OK, terriffic, I'll forego any further opinions and await your confirmation.</p>

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[phixion]

<p>as long as we're talking about unfairness in the justice system lets just look at the idfference in sentencing someone gets as far as crack cocaine and powder cocaine. crack cocaine found predominantly&nbsp;in black and spanish neighborhoods gets twice the jail time as powder cocaine found in predominantly white neighbrohoods. wheres the justice in that? its the exact same drug it afects you the exact same way one only affects you&nbsp;quicker and is much more affordable.</p><p>&nbsp;and i have seen DA's throw out confessions in order to get the man they wantso there is nothing in this&nbsp;story i find impossible.</p>

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<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font>Yep.&nbsp; I had some friends who were shoplifting all the time and I dropped them all when I started to see that because store owners knew I was friends with them, they suspected me as well.&nbsp; Fuck that.&nbsp; I won't have the company I keep bring down my good name.<br /><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=njdmmoe" border="0" /> <a href="http://www.unhallowed.com/">www.unhallowed.com</a> <a href="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/">One Big SeXXXy Blog</a> <a href="http://www.myspace.com/deathmetalmoe">Death Metal MySpace</a> DTN <br />Same reason&nbsp;you dropped &quot;New Jersey&quot; from your original board name?

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[EliSnow]

<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>OK, terriffic, I'll forego any further opinions and await your confirmation.</p><p>I'm not going to confirm this story one way or another (I don't have any time for that), and I didn't write what I did to stop you from expressing your opinions about the justice system.&nbsp;&nbsp;I'm just saying that&nbsp;there is a very good chance that this woman's story&nbsp;isn't&nbsp;true, and we shouldn't&nbsp;assume it is.&nbsp;&nbsp; It's like people getting worked up by Al Gore saying that he invented the internet or that Bill O'Reilly report about how that school didn't allow red and&nbsp;green at&nbsp;Christmas, when each story wasn't true.&nbsp; </p><p>That's not to say there is nothing to bitch about with the justice system.&nbsp; I do agree that many of our sentencing guidelines with regard to the drug possession, etc. versus say white collar crime is warped in many ways.&nbsp; As with everything in life, it's based on faulty perceptions by the public at large that lead to misguided, heavy-handed actions.&nbsp; The day we declared a &quot;war&quot; on drugs meant that any crimes involving drugs would result in stiff punishments, regardless of whether the punishment fit the &quot;crime.&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp; In New York, we have the&nbsp;Rockefeller sentencing laws which have been criticized for years for their harshness, and there finally has been some movement to reduce such laws.<br /></p>

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[Yerdaddy]

<p><font size="1">, and nothing I say should stop you from saying your&nbsp;opinions.&nbsp;</font></p><p>My opinion is that what you say should stop me from saying my opinions.</p>

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[PhishHead]

<p>After reading this...and reading people say that their had to be more...i said Fuck it and went on westlaw to try to find the real cases. </p><p>&nbsp;She was only convicted for conspiracy to distribute cocaine base(crack).&nbsp; She has appealled to US court of Appeals 5th Circuit, and lost.&nbsp; She tried to bring a writ of <span class="DocumentBody">certiorari to Supreme Court and was denied.&nbsp; She lost the case in the US District Court.&nbsp; So it has been through many courts and lost. Granted many innocent people go through all the courts and lose as well.</span></p><p>The evidence is very shady, but according to the Court of Appeals is sufficient to obtain a verdict of guilty if it is believed.&nbsp; Even Jones agrees that if the evidence is believed it is sufficient for a conviction. &nbsp;</p><p>The evidence was basically of one person who said that Jones use to sell cocaine to his girlfriend.&nbsp; That was really it. &nbsp;</p><p>Now many are saying that the sentence is long for just conspiracy here is a quote from the Court of Appeals about this:</p><p>&quot;<span class="DocumentBody">here, the government did seek enhanced penalties
<a name="SDU_17"></a>under <a target="_top" href="http://web2.westlaw.com/find/default.wl?DB=1000546&DocName=21USCAS841&FindType=L&AP=&mt=LawSchoolPractitioner&fn=_top&sv=Split&vr=2.0&rs=WLW5.12">21 U.S.C. &sect; 841(b)(1)(A)(iii)</a>, which provides for a prison sentence of from ten years to life if the <a target="_top" href="http://web2.westlaw.com/find/default.wl?DB=1000546&DocName=21USCAS841&FindType=L&AP=&mt=LawSchoolPractitioner&fn=_top&sv=Split&vr=2.0&rs=WLW5.12">section 841(a)</a>
violation involves 50 grams or more of a mixture or substance
containing cocaine base. The indictment alleged that Jones had
conspired to distribute 50 grams or more of a mixture or substance
containing a detectable amount of cocaine base, and the district
court's charge to the jury repeated this allegation. However, the
charge did not require the jury to find beyond a reasonable doubt that
Jones had conspired to distribute 50 grams or more of a substance
containing a detectable amount of cocaine base. Because the jury did
not have to find the drug quantity beyond a reasonable doubt, Jones
requests that she be resentenced under <a target="_top" href="http://web2.westlaw.com/find/default.wl?DB=1000546&DocName=21USCAS841&FindType=L&AP=&mt=LawSchoolPractitioner&fn=_top&sv=Split&vr=2.0&rs=WLW5.12">21 U.S.C. &sect; 841(b)(1)(C)</a>.<br />
The district court's failure to submit the drug quantity as an element
of Count 1 that had to be found beyond a reasonable doubt was error
notwithstanding the jury instructions' recitation of the indictment's
drug quantity allegation. <a target="_top" href="http://web2.westlaw.com/find/default.wl?DB=506&SerialNum=2001065415&FindType=Y&AP=&mt=LawSchoolPractitioner&fn=_top&sv=Split&vr=2.0&rs=WLW5.12"><em>United States v. Slaughter,</em> 238 F.3d 580, 2000 WL 1946670, *3 (5th Cir.2000)</a>. But because Jones did not object to the instruction, there can be no relief unless the error was plain. <em>Id.</em> &quot;Plain error&quot; requires: (1) an error, (2) that is plain or obvious, and (3) that affected the defendant's substantial rights. <a target="_top" href="http://web2.westlaw.com/find/default.wl?DB=708&SerialNum=1993091494&FindType=Y&ReferencePositionType=S&ReferencePosition=1776&AP=&mt=LawSchoolPractitioner&fn=_top&sv=Split&vr=2.0&rs=WLW5.12"><em>United States v. Olano,</em> 507 U.S. 725, 113 S.Ct. 1770, 1776, 123 L.Ed.2d 508 (1993)</a>. The third criterion requires the defendant to bear the burden of making a showing of prejudice from
<a name="SDU_18"></a>the error, i.e. that the error probably influenced the verdict. <a target="_top" href="http://web2.westlaw.com/find/default.wl?SerialNum=1993091494&FindType=Y&AP=&mt=LawSchoolPractitioner&fn=_top&sv=Split&vr=2.0&rs=WLW5.12"><em>Id.</em> at 1778.</a><br />
In light of <em>Doggett,</em>
failure to instruct the jury that the drug quantity was an element of
the crime must be considered

[EliSnow]

<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>&nbsp;</p>My opinion is that what you say should stop me from saying my opinions.Now I'm getting confused.<br />

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[EliSnow]

<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>After reading this...and reading people say that their had to be more...i said Fuck it and went on westlaw to try to find the real cases. </p>Phish, I went through what you wrote (good work btw), but did what you find say what her sentence was?&nbsp; It looks like the guidelines say 10 years to life, but I don't think I saw anything specific about that.&nbsp; Sorry if I missed it.<br />

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[PhishHead]

<p>oh sorry about that, left that off..she was originally sentenced to life in prison followed by supervised release for five years. Which is kind of weird considering that its a life sentence but i guess with parole and what not.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;I also forgot to mention US district court case just happened in may 2005 and here is what they said:</p><p>&quot;<span class="DocumentBody"> Defendant was convicted by a jury of conspiracy to distribute cocaine in violation of <a target="_top" href="http://web2.westlaw.com/find/default.wl?DB=1000546&DocName=21USCAS846&FindType=L&AP=&mt=LawSchoolPractitioner&fn=_top&sv=Split&vr=2.0&rs=WLW5.12">21 U.S.C. &sect; 846</a>.
Punishment was assessed life imprisonment followed by supervised
release for a period of five years. Her conviction and sentence were
affirmed on direct appeal. <em>United States v. <a title="SearchTerm" name="SearchTerm"></a><span class="SearchTerm">Jones</span><a name="SR;225"></a>,</em> No. 99- 11299 (5th Cir. Mar. 14, 2001). Defendant also filed a motion to correct, vacate, or set aside her sentence under <a target="_top" href="http://web2.westlaw.com/find/default.wl?DB=1000546&DocName=28USCAS2255&FindType=L&AP=&mt=LawSchoolPractitioner&fn=_top&sv=Split&vr=2.0&rs=WLW5.12">28 U.S.C. &sect; 2255</a>. The motion was dismissed as barred by limitations. <em>United States v. <a title="SearchTerm" name="SearchTerm"></a><span class="SearchTerm">Jones</span><a name="SR;267"></a>,</em> No. 3-02-CV-2431-P (N.D.Tex. Oct.23, 2003). On January 23, 2004, defendant filed a second motion to vacate her sentence under <a target="_top" href="http://web2.westlaw.com/find/default.wl?DB=1000546&DocName=28USCAS2255&FindType=L&AP=&mt=LawSchoolPractitioner&fn=_top&sv=Split&vr=2.0&rs=WLW5.12">28 U.S.C. &sect; 2255</a>. The District Court dismissed the case without prejudice as successive. <em>United States v. <a title="SearchTerm" name="SearchTerm"></a><span class="SearchTerm">Jones</span><a name="SR;312"></a>,</em> No. 3-04-CV-0130-P (N.D.Tex. Feb. 19, 2004), <em>COA denied,</em> No. 04-10276 (5th Cir. Aug. 17, 2004).<br />
Defendant now seeks post-conviction relief for a third time. In her
sole ground for relief, defendant contends that her sentence was
enhanced by factors not alleged in the indictment or determined by a
jury beyond a reasonable doubt as required by <a target="_top" href="http://web2.westlaw.com/find/default.wl?DB=708&SerialNum=2004622625&FindType=Y&AP=&mt=LawSchoolPractitioner&fn=_top&sv=Split&vr=2.0&rs=WLW5.12"><em>Blakely v. Washington,</em> --- U.S. ----, 124 S.Ct. 2531, 159 L.Ed.2d 403 (2004)</a> and <a target="_top" href="http://web2.westlaw.com/find/default.wl?DB=708&SerialNum=2005966569&FindType=Y&AP=&mt=LawSchoolPractitioner&fn=_top&sv=Split&vr=2.0&rs=WLW5.12"><em>United States v. Booker,</em> --- U.S. ----, 125 S.Ct. 738, 160 L.Ed.2d 621 (2005)</a>. Before addressing these claims, the court must
<a name="SDU_3"></a>determine whether defendant can file a successive <a target="_top" href="http://web2.westlaw.com/find/default.wl?DB=1000546&DocName=28USCAS2255&FindType=L&AP=&mt=LawSchoolPractitioner&fn=_top&sv=Split&vr=2.0&rs=WLW5.12">section 2255</a> motion without prior approval from the court of appeals.<br />

II. The Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act
of 1996 limits the circumstances under which a federal prisoner may
file a second or successive motion for post-conviction relief.
ANTITERRORISM AND EFFECTIVE DEATH PENALTY ACT, <a target="_top" href="http://web2.westlaw.com/find/default.wl?DB=1077005&DocName=UU%28I197F8ECB45%2D7D49F884ADE%2D46EC6317A 0A%29&FindType=l&AP=&mt=LawSchoolPractitioner&fn=_top&sv=Split&vr=2.0&rs=WLW5.12">Pub.L. 104-132, 110 Stat. 1214 (1996).</a>
A defendant must show that the successive motion is based on: (1) newly
discovered evidence that, if proven and viewed in light of the evidence
as a whole, would be sufficient to establish by clear and convincing
evidence that no reasonable factfinder would have found him guilty of
the offense; or (2) a new rule of constitutional law, made retroactive
to cas

[EliSnow]

<p>Thanks Phish.&nbsp; &quot;Life imprisonment followed by supervised release for five years&quot; sounds like an oxymoron if I ever heard one.&nbsp; </p>

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<p>No Problem.</p><p>&nbsp;and yes it defintely does. <br /></p>

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<p><img src="http://webpages.marshall.edu/~REGER3/Branskik.jpg" border="0" /></p><p>i hope he roundhouse kicked her in the face </p>