What would happen if O+A f*'d up again? [Archive]

TheRealEddie

12-07-2005, 04:13 AM

If you are listening to O+A this morning, you know that there was an assualt on the media that went pretty badly apparantly and O+A seem to be VERY worried about it. It definitely has a Sex for Sam feel to it, Im ont saying what will happen, Im just saying thats the vibe Im getting off them. They just went to a 40 minute replay from yesterday because they are trying to get in touch with their boss (Eric Logan) who has yet to make contact with them this morning. I'm not sure what the result of this situation will be. But it did make me wonder, what would happen to 202 should O+A do something to get them kicked again? Worst, what would happen to R+F?    

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yomudder21

12-07-2005, 04:18 AM

Well that is easy.................Ron and Fez will be shipped off to Northern Virginia .........and only people with XM in Montgomery County will be able to hear them................ 

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TheRealEddie

12-07-2005, 04:24 AM

Where's $teel$? 

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Doctor Manhattan

12-07-2005, 04:28 AM

Well, Hopefully they wouldn't fire O&A because of this. They have had some legal issues already. There are a number of things that are not mentioned on the show: Sex acts involving the "Wolf-pac" girls and interns, Law Suit from another intern that O&A&Jimmy made fun of because he seemed a bit gay, Underaged girl got drunk and someone on the staff had sex with her, I probably got some details wrong or missed something else that has happened since they started at XMO&A are doing well on XM, and since this doesn't involve a church or politican it shouldn't be a big deal.

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Doctor Manhattan

12-07-2005, 04:36 AM

quote: O+A seem to be VERY worried about it...They just went to a 40 minute replay from yesterday because they are trying to get in touch with their boss (Eric Logan) who has yet to make contact with them this morning. Did they go on Live after a replay? 

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JPMNICK

12-07-2005, 04:51 AM

I am not listening live, but I have a feeling the 40 minute break may have been a joke they are playing on the fans and message board people

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TheRealEddie

12-07-2005, 04:53 AM

Its no joke, however, I dont think this will get them fired. It just doesnt sound that bad. But it still makes you wonder how much R+F's fate is tied in with O+As... 

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Photoshop Mike

12-07-2005, 04:55 AM

Wait.. what happened to O and A? what was the assault about?

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Doctor Manhattan

12-07-2005, 05:04 AM

quote: Its no joke, however, I dont think this will get them fired. It just doesnt sound that bad. But it still makes you wonder how much R+F's fate is tied in with O+As...  It isn't that bad, O&A have done a lot worse (from a legal point of view) since starting at XMI'm sure XM recognizes the R&F show for what it is and not just having them on as a favor to O&A, so I don't think we will see another WNEW situation even if O&A are let go. quote: Wait.. what happened to O and A? what was the assault about?  <a href="http://www.state.nj.us/cgi-bin/governor/njnewsline/view_article.pl?id=2829" target="_blank">An Assault on the Media went bad</a>. O&A say "Don't Touch the Reporters" so they blew an Air Horn in a reporters ear, possible permanent damage. <a href="http://www.opieandanthony.com/">www.opieandanthony.com</a> has taken all AOTM info off the site.<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/programming/channel_page.jsp?ch=202" target="_blank"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border="0" /></a>

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curtoid

12-07-2005, 05:31 AM

quote: It just doesnt sound that bad. <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/dry.gif" border="0" />

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Death Metal Moe

12-07-2005, 06:12 AM

If O&A's bullshit get Ron and Fez fired AGAIN I think Ron and Fez should just rape them both.

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curtoid

12-07-2005, 06:13 AM

Hopefully the reporter will be all right and there will be no serious fall out from this. Having a Gov. issue a statement is a pretty big deal, though (would freak me out), and maybe it will have some heat if the reporters injuries are bad, but I would be out and out stunned if this was a deal breaker, especially since XM used to run spots for the "Attacks."

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Doctor Manhattan

12-07-2005, 06:17 AM

quote: If O&A's bullshit get Ron and Fez fired AGAIN I think Ron and Fez should just rape them both. They will need to get in line behind Jim Norton. (Well, Jimmy has had his eye on Opie for a while now, just waiting for an excuse)<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/programming/channel_page.jsp?ch=202" target="_blank"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border="0" /></a>

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FlashVirus

12-07-2005, 07:10 AM

is it over? Anthony just said Your mom's box.

Death Metal Moe

12-07-2005, 08:31 AM

I really don't think they'll get fired over this, but who knows.

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yomudder21

12-07-2005, 08:37 AM

There is NO way they will get canned.  Just because some douche took an air horn does not make it O and A's fault.They tell people in that promo not to touch the reporters.  If people don't listen then what are they going to do, never have a contest with listeners again?And that response by the NJ Gov was a joke.  The idea that reporters are really doing us a service by reporting the news is a joke.  They are there to sell tires, diapers, and Pepsi.    

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suggums

12-07-2005, 08:38 AM

Perpetrator should head up to O&A's XM studio with said air horn, and blast it til it runs out of gas at himself, opie, anthony and anyone else up for a game of deaf. 

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Dudeman

12-07-2005, 08:39 AM

perhaps having oa and rf on different channels would be a good idea anyways. they dont have exactly the same audience. at this point, because it is basically the oa channel, rf just get the subset of oa audience that likes rf. if they were on different channels, rf should be able to get a wider audience, which would be good for them, and perhaps they could get some of these people, once they like rf, to try out oa. win win.

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East Side Dave

12-07-2005, 08:44 AM

quote: anyone else up for a game of deaf. I heard that was Helen Keller's favorite game.        (when she wasn't playing the Game of Blind, that is...)

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Death Metal Moe

12-07-2005, 08:45 AM

And that response by the NJ Gov was a joke.  The idea that reporters are really doing us a service by reporting the news is a joke.  They are there to sell tires, diapers, and Pepsi.  I completely agree with that. FUCK OUT GOVENOR.  SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH, ASSFUCK.God I don't want to hear out fucking overpaid elected officials commenting on something so small.  If some asshole blasted me in the ear on the street corner the govenor wouldn't comment. Just because it was on TV and involves O&A he takes time out of his day to say that?Shut the fuck up.

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Doctor Manhattan

12-07-2005, 08:49 AM

quote: There is NO way they will get canned.  Just because some douche took an air horn does not make it O and A's fault. They tell people in that promo not to touch the reporters.  If people don't listen then what are they going to do, never have a contest with listeners again?  Well, Just because some couple have sex in a church does it make it O&A's fault? I don't think they'll be fired for this, I'm just saying, you could see this as O&A's fault, I don'tI don't think this guy touched the reporter. 

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TheRealEddie

12-07-2005, 09:17 AM

Its totally O+A's fault, I see it that way. You cant argue that the point of the bit was to enjoy getting the reporters riled up as much as it was to get the O+A name out there. They already got one reporter fired for the bit when the reporter flew off the handle on air. They promoted setting up the confrontations, its naive to think otherwise. O+A should just take a page from the R. Bennington book of life and "Just be cool". 

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Jennitalia

12-07-2005, 09:46 AM

You can't blame O&A for these asshole pests that just seem to live for doing obnoxious things in order to be loved by O&A.

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12-07-2005, 09:52 AM

quote: Its totally O+A's fault, I see it that way. You cant argue that the point of the bit was to enjoy getting the reporters riled up as much as it was to get the O+A name out there. They already got one reporter fired for the bit when the reporter flew off the handle on air. They promoted setting up the confrontations, its naive to think otherwise. O+A should just take a page from the R. Bennington book of life and "Just be cool".   O&A shouldn't have to tell their fans to stay within the law*. The Reporters are in public. The AOTMs would be cool if the PESTS stay within the same laws that prevent me from going up to people and firing an Air Horn in their Ear or shoving some dude at a street corner. There is nothing wrong with settng up a confrontation unless someone crosses the line.O&A have said the bit was to get their names out there as well as piss off the reporters, Arthur Chien didn't have to use the word "FUCK" on TV. Most reporters are able to keep from reacting like that.*Now O&A should know that the PESTs would have broken the law at some point (if they hadn't already before this AOTM) so they used some bad judgement trusting the PESTs, but O&A have had bad judgement before.<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/programming/channel_page.jsp?ch=202" target="_blank"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border="0" /></a>

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EliSnow

12-07-2005, 09:54 AM

Well, you are going to hear the argument that, at the very least, O&A should have known that by encouraging the Assault on the Media, and providing awards to pests that dispurt a broadcast in the "best way" that eventually someone was going to be stupid (despite O&A instructions not to be stupid) and take it too far, such that something like this would happen.  Despite this knowledge, they continued to encourage this program.   Ultimately, the pest in question is too blame for being stupid.

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HBox

12-07-2005, 10:10 AM

O&A deserve a little blame, and if this gets into the courts they most certainly will recieve some liability. The fact is these people wouldn't have been out there bothering reporters at all if not for O&A. And if you don't think that something going wrong like this couldn't be forseen, you are just naive. That being said, the overwhelming majority of the blame goes to the air horn douchebag. 

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EliSnow

12-07-2005, 10:13 AM

quote: O&A deserve a little blame, and if this gets into the courts they most certainly will recieve some liability. The fact is these people wouldn't have been out there bothering reporters at all if not for O&A. And if you don't think that something going wrong like this couldn't be forseen, you are just naive. That being said, the overwhelming majority of the blame goes to the air horn douchebag.   Agreed.  A court could find negligence, or even possibly recklessness on their part, but the air horn guy would get the brunt of it.  

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curtoid

12-07-2005, 10:25 AM

quote: that eventually someone was going to be stupid (despite O&A instructions not to be stupid) and take it too far, The pest is to blame for his actions, however a court might find that liability also rests with the promotion. I'd rather have hope in my soul than soap in my hole...

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TheRealEddie

12-07-2005, 11:07 AM

*punching out* 

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Tenbatsuzen

12-07-2005, 01:31 PM

From a technical point of view, Gamefly, Jaegermeister, and other
companies who gave prizes to the AOTM contest would be found liable as
well.  They provided the incentive for this asshole (I'm not even
calling them pests anymore, spade is a fucking spade) to do what they
did.And BTW SKW - the Wolf-Pac girls having sex with the interns
and the underage girls getting drunk and having sex with the interns
was the same thing.  

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12-07-2005, 03:10 PM

I think they very well could get fired over this. There's a lot of things to consider. For one, XM has always seemed skiddish about O&A because of their past. That's why they started on premium, and that's why XM's hardly promoted them. The head muckity-mucks could see this as a "We told you so" situation and fire them before anything potentially worse and damaging to XM happens. My guess is that if this gets picked up by the national media, or a lawsuit is filed in the next week or so, XM will suspend them indefinitely. They've never really given them a vote of confidence and they won't want the bad publicity going into one of the biggest times of year (Christmas) for satelite radio sales. As for Ron & Fez, they'd either take over the morning show or get canned with O&A.

FlashVirus

12-07-2005, 03:16 PM

As for Ron & Fez, they'd either take over the morning show or get canned with O&A. XM needs some kind of Shockjock type shows to compete against Stern & his friends. High Voltage won't be going away soon, may be O&A will go away but not the station.

FUNKMAN

12-07-2005, 03:23 PM

i believe OnA will be fine and someone higher will get reprimanded...on a sidenote: this guy patrice(sp?) is pretty bad.  he feels if he talks loud it's gonna make what he says funny and he interrupts OnA when they're talking and a racist... that's about itedit: i should say " racially paranoid "... i always hear "if it was a black guy"<img src="http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UQCRAl4WyHLYmr7dmRaNq9LkFDSutySVXtZT!2DBFo9cdLLOy T0wW*F93FRtcPlf*xMPhVXRGqhe6SJySdgLcTKyu!jrvKbU!du NFBLOnRJxEbhL0qxR9qln3GX9xzMO/FUNKMAN.JPG?dc=4675521713262985004" border="0" />

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yomudder21

12-07-2005, 03:48 PM

OandA are not responsible for people breaking the law. Do NOT compare this to the Sex for Sam because it is not the same idea.In that contest they were promoting that idea of breaking the law for prizes.  In this contest they told listeners to do NOTHING of the sort.  If they followed the rules then no one would not be in this problem.It is such a cliche for these officials to jump all over their back too.  Granted I am not defending the guy that blasted the reporter in the ear with an air horn, but you have to be F'n kidding me that the gov. of a state would open his mouth over someone shooting an air horn at a silly news reporter.I want the responsibility and the blame to be put where it needs to be, and that is the shoulders of the person that did this.  STOP PASSING THE BUCK AMERICA.  YOU PUSSIES SACK UP AND STOP BLAMING OZZY FOR YOUR KIDS BURNING DOWN YOUR HOUSE AND DON'T BLAME OandA WHEN THEY TOLD NO ONE TO BREAK THE LAW.So if someone spikes someone's eggnog at the drinking contest next year and they die, then we blame Opie and Anthony.

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Gvac

12-07-2005, 04:06 PM

I guess I'll never understand the juvenille and moronic mentality that makes someone do such a vile act.

If that reporter suffers even a small hearing loss, this jackass should be made to pay for years to come. His actions are indefensible.

I won't go so far as to say that O & A are to blame, but I'm equally puzzled as to why they feel the need to always be such "bad boys" and run contests where they dare people to top each other with their stupidity. They even named the contest ASSAULT on the media. They're always so worried about pushing the envelope and being outrageous instead of relying on their talent, and I haven't a clue as to why.

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SatCam

12-07-2005, 04:19 PM

O&A say "Don't Touch the Reporters" so they blew an Air Horn in a reporters ear, possible permanent damage.Holy
shit, that is really fucked up.  Why in god's name would anyone do
this?  Was this on live tv and if yes, does anyone have video of
it? 

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Steels

12-07-2005, 04:23 PM

quote:I
guess I'll never understand the juvenille and moronic mentality that
makes someone do such a vile act. If that reporter suffers even a small
hearing loss, this jackass should be made to pay for years to come. His
actions are indefensible.
I won't go so far as to say that O & A are to blame, but I'm
equally puzzled as to why they feel the need to always be such "bad
boys" and run contests where they dare people to top each other with
their stupidity. They even named the contest ASSAULT on the media.
They're always so worried about pushing the envelope and being
outrageous instead of relying on their talent, and I haven't a clue as
to why. Stop trying to "out-Howard" Howard, boys. <img border="0" alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com" src="http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c34/Gvac/BengalSupersig.gif" /> This
is pretty much my feelings also.  One of the first red flags I
noticed with O and A's XM show was their reliance on stunts or acts
that I felt came off as more mean spirited than funny.  I found
myself turned off by the show more than I was entertained.  As a
matter of fact the only thing I recall from listening those first
months was the Tony Danza stuff which was just brilliant.  
Regardless, every couple of months I'll give them another shot and
listen to a show here and there in hopes that it improves.  Ron
and Fez bounced back in a big way, I think O & A can too. 
 I wouldn't worry about Ron and Fez, worse case scenario is
they'd be moved to another channel but I doubt this situation would
come to that. 

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j3lehane

12-07-2005, 05:55 PM

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yomudder21

12-07-2005, 05:59 PM

I guess none of us gets it?

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mdr55

12-07-2005, 06:08 PM

According to the Scientific Periodic Table:O + A = ATOMBut if this was spelling, we all would get a F cuz:O + A = OAAnd Green Lantern would tell you that OA is the home planet of the Guardians.<img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/wacko.gif" /> 

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zentraed

12-07-2005, 06:37 PM

quote:According to the Scientific Periodic Table:O + A = ATOMBut if this was spelling, we all would get a F cuz:O + A = OAAnd Green Lantern would tell you that OA is the home planet of the Guardians.<img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/wacko.gif" /> 

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mikeyboy

12-07-2005, 06:50 PM

a reminder,I used to get reprimanded regularly for bringing NON-RF related material to R&F .net,but NOW you all seem to get it that the O&A show is intertwined with R&F in a big way,and NOW you are worried about it.Don't be so hard on me if I'm a little ahead of what's going on.Jerry, the fact that R&F and O&A are intertwined and connected does not explain your wackadoo posts.  Not here.  Not on Mars.  Not anywhere.

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12-07-2005, 06:58 PM

I'm going to make it my persional mission to use the word "wackadoo" as many times as possible in the next week!

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suggums

12-07-2005, 07:04 PM

AOTM should be replaced with... A2M - Ass To Mouth 

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j3lehane

12-08-2005, 09:20 AM

quote:<hr color="cococo" align="left">[quote]quote:<hr color="cococo" align="left">a reminder,I used to get reprimanded regularly for bringing NON-RF related material to R&F .net,but NOW you all seem to get it that the O&A show is intertwined with R&F in a big way,and NOW you are worried about it.Don't be so hard on me if I'm a little ahead of what's going on.<hr color="cococo" align="left">Jerry, the fact that R&F and O&A are intertwined and connected does not explain your wackadoo posts.ÿ Not here.ÿ Not on Mars.ÿ Not anywhere.

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fezident

12-08-2005, 09:38 AM

I don't really see how OnA could be held responsible.  If I understand the game correctly, you are merely supposed to somehow get OnA mentioned on the air, right?  Hold up a sign, or stand in the view of the camera and yell something show related, or wear an XM Tshirt or something like that.  Is that correct?  If yes, then what does blaring a bullhorn in someones ear have to do with ANYTHING?  How is it even -technically- related to the AOTM promotion?  Did he SAY anything aboot OnA?  Was he holding a sign?** I don't listen to the show and I haven't seen any footage of this particular incident so... I'm sorry if I'm way off-case on this one**

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DJEvelEd

12-08-2005, 09:46 AM

Bad press is good press. O&A will get paid regardless, thus the shocking stunts. I love the AOTM and if O&A punk out, I'll definitely be shocked.If O&A crumble under this faux pressure, they may actually be phoneys like Howard. Let people haul them into court. So WHAT! They're millionaires. They never need to work again. They do this for the fame and enjoyment. How much enjoyment can it be if lawyers are pulling your strings. GROW A SET and be shocking. They can play animal torture audio but cant harass the paparazzi? Gimme a break. I hate reporters but I hate lawyers more. If they wimp out on this they may lose me on principle.Does Ice T get hauled into civil court by famillies of killed police officers?They should cancel the DirectTV contract too to protect themselves. Some child watching channel 2 may go down one channel and hear a bad word. Better to cancel now before they get sued. Better safe than sorry, right Mr. Lawyer?<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> FLING <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> FLING <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smile.gif" border="0" /> ........... <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> SPLATT <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> SPLATT <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/smileredoh.gif" border="0" /> PUTTING THE FUNNY IN PRESENTLY SEEN DEPTHS SPONSORED BY:"THE FÆCES™OF CÆSAR" BY ÆSOP ©464 B.C. <img src="http://64.177.177.182/katylina/shockposters.jpg" border="0" />

This message was edited by DJEvelEd on 12-8-05 @ 1:48 PM

curtoid

12-08-2005, 10:16 AM

I would actually be surprised if O&A haven't been sued before - not because of them, but because of the bid-ness. Most anyone doing what they do has had lawsuits filed against them - "Elliot" here in DC has one or two suits a year filed against him - Stern has had his share - and Don and Mike were part of one back in 1991 when they called a local film publicist a bitch. As long as the company believes the talent is bankable, they'll ride out the heat (which could be why Greaseman always gets dropped whenever he says something dumb).

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EliSnow

12-08-2005, 10:26 AM

quote: I don't really see how OnA could be held responsible.  If I understand the game correctly, you are merely supposed to somehow get OnA mentioned on the air, right?  Hold up a sign, or stand in the view of the camera and yell something show related, or wear an XM Tshirt or something like that.  Is that correct?  If yes, then what does blaring a bullhorn in someones ear have to do with ANYTHING?  How is it even -technically- related to the AOTM promotion?  Did he SAY anything aboot OnA?  Was he holding a sign?** I don't listen to the show and I haven't seen any footage of this particular incident so... I'm sorry if I'm way off-case on this one**  The argument as to why they could be held liable (in a civil action most likely) is that the AOTM program is all about disrupting remote broadcasts, and that they encourage, and reward, the best disruption of a broadcast, such as a guy yelling "O&A" during a broadcast.  After all they give prizes, and play as a promo, an instance, not just where someone appeared on screen with an O&A shirt, but yelled O&A.  The implied goal then of the program, under this argument, is not to promote O&A but to disrupt the reporter from doing the broadcast.  The question for whether they are liable for a injury that may have occurred as a result of the air horn is whether the injury was a reasonble consequence of O&A actions, such that a reasonably prudent man would not have done what they did.   The disclaimers they use ("don't be stupid," etc.) could be a defense, but could also be ignored if a jury or a court felt that these statements were accompanied by other statements that really encouraged the actions taken.  Further questions would be whether this guy was enticed by the program to do this, and did it for the express purpose of winning the monthly prize or getting air time from O&A.Also, because there is encouragement or prizes, this is different from Ice-T rapping about killing cops or Ozzy singing about suicide.  In those instances, those cases could clearly be discussed as artistic speech without any actual encouragement for anyone to do what the songs say.  In this case, there is encouragement and provision of incentives to disrupt broadcasts.  

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Doctor Manhattan

12-08-2005, 02:48 PM

quote: on a sidenote: this guy patrice(sp?) is pretty bad.  he feels if he talks loud it's gonna make what he says funny and he interrupts OnA when they're talking and a racist... that's about it edit: i should say " racially paranoid "... i always hear "if it was a black guy"  Really, I love it when Patrice is on the show. I love his energy. I'm also a big fan of Bill Burr's role when he's on. I love the fact that Patrice and Bill don't try to be Norton.What has he said that seemed racist or "racially paranoid"? 

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FUNKMAN

12-08-2005, 03:09 PM

Really, I love it when Patrice is on the show. I love his energy. I'm also a big fan of Bill Burr's role when he's on. I love the fact that Patrice and Bill don't try to be Norton.What has he said that seemed racist or "racially paranoid"? i have only heard patrice a handful of times and on more than one occassion i've heard the 'if it was a black guy". He assumed the reporter who complained about being injured was black due to his last name. Then he started talking about "if it is a black reporter" and how a black reporter would react. He just seems to have taken things in a 'black' direction on a few occassions and i've only heard him speak a couple of times but i'm assuming if i heard it a couple times withing them few times i listened then he does it pretty consistently.then he started blabbering on about the NJ Governor, he was loud and went on for a little while and then didn't even know who the NJ Governor involved was. i heard him just cut off Opie and Anthony on several occassions as they spoke and came up with nothing funny, on top of it he's loud and i seriously think he thinks if he talks loud then it's gonna make what he says funnier. i'm not seeing itagain, it's just my opinion  question? was patrice the guy who was with the Radio Chick for a while... if he was i thought he was the funniest of them three. if he was i would also say that now he is a little out of his league... or he's just tries too hard

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tzakiel

12-08-2005, 03:13 PM

I've been thinking for some time they should do a contest where they play some audio, and then anthony, norton and opie have to guess if it's audio of chimps attacking and squealing/yelling or if it's patrice laughing on the show.  I think it could be a good bit, difficult for them too.and yes, racial paranoia is a good way to put it.  every word out of partrice's mouth is "see a black dude" or "see a white dude"  he obviously has no act other than pointing out racial differences.  funny for a while, and then just really, really, REALLY old.

j3lehane

12-11-2005, 01:08 PM

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a65/j3lehane/BigOAPARTYROCK.jpgYou guys are twisting my arm to agree,except that knowing O&A aren't just fools,they have him on for many reasons I won't get into. I did finally get some cool info from him on the Sunami Song debacle that got Patrice fired or canned or whatever. All the other stuff he did the whole week paled by comparison for ME.But for the show he relieved some very big tension during the ELO waiting game early Monday to tues -weds.Even though Patrice was over his head he didn't back down by just shutting up,to his credit.The guys were in the doldrums and getting fearful of repercussions,with visions of their 2 year vacation from radio thanks to Stern and legal entanglements. Patrice,basically took one for the team by being the goon during a tough time.Again,he does not much for me entertainment-wise,but I can separate my personal opinions from what's good for the show.Timing was actually on Patrice's side on this one.O&A knew he had street cred himself,and got screwed by the system,which they respected and understood oh too well.