Monday Night RAW Discussion

[Tenbatsuzen]

Pretty good Raw last night. Thought the Orton/Hardy match was solid. The Raw Heavyweight scene is pretty good, but I really think it illustrates why there should only be one brand. Even if you have two titles, they could have an excellent group of main event players.

You can't have two titles on one brand. Makes no sense.

Everything was pretty good last night, Except for Candice. Ridiculously bad on the mic.

[xample]

I caught the last 10 minutes.

Getting to see Lashley spear Cena was all I needed.

[BeltOfScotch]

Any time Carlito is on the show, it's a good show. Sandman provides a good foil for him

I have zero interest in any Cena-Lashley match though.

[Fallon]

I have zero interest in any Cena-Lashley match though.
They couldn't have picked two worse guys on the roster to fued. Well except Khali and Umaga, but Cena's already destoyed them. I hope Triple H comes back and smashes Cena.

[Tenbatsuzen]

They couldn't have picked two worse guys on the roster to fued. Well except Khali and Umaga, but Cena's already destoyed them. I hope Triple H comes back and smashes Cena.

I found it telling that they didn't show the footage from his first quad injury.

[cougarjake13]

Any time Carlito is on the show, it's a good show. Sandman provides a good foil for him

I have zero interest in any Cena-Lashley match though.

me too

and it would have been better if they had king booker win, at least he's a heel

unless they're going with the lashley beats cena so that when trips comes back he beats lashley for the title setting up a trips vs cena fued

[cougarjake13]

I found it telling that they didn't show the footage from his first quad injury.

why ???

[cougarjake13]

Pretty good Raw last night. Thought the Orton/Hardy match was solid. The Raw Heavyweight scene is pretty good, but I really think it illustrates why there should only be one brand. Even if you have two titles, they could have an excellent group of main event players.

there'd be too many players in a one title wwe world

cena, lashley, booker, orton, trips, edge, batista, taker, hbk, mr kennedy,

and then trying to bring up new guys, i guess they could do that with ecw like they did with lashley but still they'd be too top heavy

so there's always gonna be a 2 title championship, unless the beniot thing almost cripples the wwe and TNA becomes a major force

[Bossanova]

there'd be too many players in a one title wwe world

cena, lashley, booker, orton, trips, edge, batista, taker, hbk, mr kennedy,

and then trying to bring up new guys, i guess they could do that with ecw like they did with lashley but still they'd be too top heavy

so there's always gonna be a 2 title championship, unless the beniot thing almost cripples the wwe and TNA becomes a major force

I sort of agree. Taker and HBK should no longer see the strap. Booker has no staying power and Orton can't stay out of trouble. They maybe have 6 legit guys, but I feel even 8 to 10 isnt a bad thing. It would keep it fresh. They could have maybe 4 or 5 gys in the mix and then start to make the IC title mean something again

[Chimee]

why ???

Didn't the injury happen in a match that Benoit was involved in?

[cougarjake13]

I sort of agree. Taker and HBK should no longer see the strap. Booker has no staying power and Orton can't stay out of trouble. They maybe have 6 legit guys, but I feel even 8 to 10 isnt a bad thing. It would keep it fresh. They could have maybe 4 or 5 gys in the mix and then start to make the IC title mean something again

well that was gonna be my next post about the ic title

i dont think that hbk or taker should get the title but they're definite top draws for the title and thus always be in the mix as long as they are around

[cougarjake13]

Didn't the injury happen in a match that Benoit was involved in?

yeh him and stone cold defending the tag titles against jericho and beniot

[xample]

As far as the Cena-Lashley feud goes...

I have never liked John Cena. I didn't care for Lashley at first, but he's grown on me. For where the WWE is at right now, it actually makes for the perfect mid-summer spectacular. I'm not saying that the match is going to be any good, but Cena has a large following of supporters/haters alike and Lashley always gets big pop... this could work, ala Hogan-Goldberg.

But who knows, I honestly just like watching Lashley plow people over in the ring. It's kinda funny.

[wehitandrun]

You can't even call this a feud, it's a one off match resulting in another guy for Cena to beat before his big feud.

There's a reason why Lashley got the first shot out of those four guys- he isn't going to win, the feud can't work past the next pay per view, and he is awful.

Well, that last part is my own thing.

[Don Stugots]

I have no problem with Taker getting the belt again, more so if he was to push someone else. Same goes for Flair. i would love to see him get the gold "one last time" and hold it for a few months and let the kids watching today get to see him on top.

Also, a lashley/cena fued is not something i will be watching. neither of them are entertaining to me. Kennedy, Booker T and a few others, would be good.

[xample]

I have no problem with Taker getting the belt again, more so if he was to push someone else. Same goes for Flair. i would love to see him get the gold "one last time" and hold it for a few months and let the kids watching today get to see him on top.

Also, a lashley/cena fued is not something i will be watching. neither of them are entertaining to me. Kennedy, Booker T and a few others, would be good.

Flair holding the belt would be magical.

[Don Stugots]

X, wouldnt it? just to know that you are seeing him as the champ for the last time. even make up t-shirts for it. a few of them. one listing all the people he beat for the belts and another saying "one last time, WOOOOOO"

[Chimee]

That shirt beats the hell out of the Vince McMahon "I Did It" shirt.

And seeing Flair as the champion one last time would be the best.

[JesterOfSadness]

If Flair is ever close to an idea of a title run, they are gonna have to actually have him win matches. Last I saw, he's jobbing to the likes of fucking Carlito.

[xample]

If Flair is ever close to an idea of a title run, they are gonna have to actually have him win matches. Last I saw, he's jobbing to the likes of fucking Carlito.

Sadly, this is the way it is now....

I was surprised that he even had a United States title shot recently.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Speaking of the tragedy of retired wrestlers:

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/b6/fullj.getty-74562582cp027_2007_nhl_awar_9_42_22_pm.jpg

I guess married life is treating her well. And in return, she's treating herself to delicious pastries.

[Tenbatsuzen]

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/73/fullj.getty-74562582cp028_2007_nhl_awar_9_43_49_pm.jpg

wha... wha happened... i thought... thought we were just having fun

[cougarjake13]

who is that ???

[J.Clints]

who is that ???

Same thing I was wondering.

[Kevin]

who is that ???

Whats left of her


http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/PHO/AAGJ138.jpg

[cougarjake13]

Whats left of her


http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/PHO/AAGJ138.jpg

no fucking way thats her

[cougarjake13]

i was thinking maybe sable or sunny

[J.Clints]

no fucking way thats her

My thoughts exactly.

[BeltOfScotch]

I refuse to believe these vicious lies and am prepared to represent Ms. Stratus in a lawsuit for slander. I expect the suit to be valued in the billions.

[Kevin]

no fucking way thats her

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[J.Clints]

I refuse to believe these vicious lies and am prepared to represent Ms. Stratus in a lawsuit for slander. I expect the suit to be valued in the billions.

Billions of Carbs for Ms. Stratus?

[BeltOfScotch]

Based on the photos, she may ask Matty to pay her in Twinkies or McGriddles

I call shenanigans, in the video she looks like usual hot Trish.

[cougarjake13]

Based on the photos, she may ask Matty to pay her in Twinkies or McGriddles

I call shenanigans, in the video she looks like usual hot Trish.

my sentiments exactly

[Tenbatsuzen]

Look, all I'm saying is that she spent the better part of 10 years being a fitness model.

Now she's married, retired, and out of the spotlight.

Let her get a little chubby. Remember, she's greek. That means bigger boobs and a GRRREEEEEEAT ass

[Don Stugots]

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/73/fullj.getty-74562582cp028_2007_nhl_awar_9_43_49_pm.jpg

wha... wha happened... i thought... thought we were just having fun

what is he looking at? same thing we all are. i think she looks good.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Stu, is there ANY woman you don't find attractive?

[cougarjake13]

Look, all I'm saying is that she spent the better part of 10 years being a fitness model.

Now she's married, retired, and out of the spotlight.

Let her get a little chubby. Remember, she's greek. That means bigger boobs and a GRRREEEEEEAT ass

i have no problem with the way she looks in the pic and video

just that in the pics the face didnt look like trish, but in the video you can clearly see its her

[Don Stugots]

Stu, is there ANY woman you don't find attractive?

yes, but i wont name them here out of fear that they might read this. I do find most women to be attractive. a woman's body is a work of art as long as science hasn't made its way into by means of plastic surgery.

[Kevin]

Stu, is there ANY woman you don't find attractive?

No...

[Tenbatsuzen]

yes, but i wont name them here out of fear that they might read this. I do find most women to be attractive. a woman's body is a work of art as long as science hasn't made its way into by means of plastic surgery.

Those are serious fuckin' fighting words.

[Tenbatsuzen]

yes, but i wont name them here out of fear that they might read this. I do find most women to be attractive. a woman's body is a work of art as long as science hasn't made its way into by means of plastic surgery.

so, in other words, you find all of the women in the WWE unattractive. Gotcha.

[cougarjake13]

yes, but i wont name them here out of fear that they might read this. I do find most women to be attractive. a woman's body is a work of art as long as science hasn't made its way into by means of plastic surgery.

so thats why you like pre-op ladyboys

[Kevin]

so thats why you like pre-op ladyboys

Lilly Allen??

[Don Stugots]

Those are serious fuckin' fighting words.

i wouldnt use those words, i might take you up them in the upcoming fight night.

so, in other words, you find all of the women in the WWE unattractive. Gotcha.

why is it a shock to you that i like natural looking women as opposed to fake looking women? i have said it dozens of times. You like fake breasts, i do not. to answer your question: not really.

[J.Clints]

i wouldnt use those words, i might take you up them in the upcoming fight night.



why is it a shock to you that i like natural looking women as opposed to fake looking women? i have said it dozens of times. You like fake breasts, i do not. to answer your question: not really.

Bodogfight.com...

My money is on Stu.

[Kevin]

Bodogfight.com...

My money is on Stu.

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PS/7655~Shocker-Posters.jpg

[J.Clints]

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PS/7655~Shocker-Posters.jpg

I knew that was coming.

[Tenbatsuzen]

i wouldnt use those words, i might take you up them in the upcoming fight night.



why is it a shock to you that i like natural looking women as opposed to fake looking women? i have said it dozens of times. You like fake breasts, i do not. to answer your question: not really.

I told you. I'm retired.

If we were to fight, loser's wife gets a boob job would be the stip.

[cougarjake13]

I knew that was coming.

if you did then we couldnt call it the shocker

[J.Clints]

if you did then we couldnt call it the shocker

Good point. Shocking coming from you.

[Don Stugots]

I told you. I'm retired.

If we were to fight, loser's wife gets a boob job would be the stip.

i wouldnt agree to it, Liz is perfect just the way she is.

[J.Clints]

i wouldnt agree to it, Liz is perfect just the way she is.

Stugots greatest post ever.

[JesterOfSadness]

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/73/fullj.getty-74562582cp028_2007_nhl_awar_9_43_49_pm.jpg


Good god what happened to her face...it looks like its melting.

Plus the dude next to her is staring at her chest. Good man.

[Tenbatsuzen]

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/bc/fullj.getty-74562581cp015_2007_nhl_awar_8_02_02_pm.jpg

[cougarjake13]

its like looking at 2 completely different women in the same dress

[J.Clints]

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/bc/fullj.getty-74562581cp015_2007_nhl_awar_8_02_02_pm.jpg

Damn she looks good there.

[BeltOfScotch]

Exactly, I'm no expert, but in the original pictures her face has to be photoshopped.

[J.Clints]

Exactly, I'm no expert, but in the original pictures her face has to be photoshopped.

I must agree!

[Kevin]

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/bc/fullj.getty-74562581cp015_2007_nhl_awar_8_02_02_pm.jpg


Is that the "Jack" guy who was in those Mickey skits?

[Tenbatsuzen]

BTW, if Stugots and I threw down, you might see this from me pre-fight:

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[J.Clints]

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[J.Clints]

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[J.Clints]

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[Bossanova]

Wow looking back, those were some shitty teams

[cougarjake13]

Wow looking back, those were some shitty teams

yeh but still better than any survivor series lately

[Bossanova]

yeh but still better than any survivor series lately

HA, yes it is

[Tenbatsuzen]

Goddamn, I miss Ric Martel. Arrogance... ahhh. The smell of it.

[cougarjake13]

Goddamn, I miss Ric Martel. Arrogance... ahhh. The smell of it.

i was just thinking how old all the guys looked backed then

[wehitandrun]

yeh but still better than any survivor series lately

We should all agree that Survivor Series '98 tops them all, even though it had no team matches.

[Fallon]

http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/3029/bradshawnazixr9.gif

[BeltOfScotch]

Forget the steroid testing policy, I'm calling for a no closeups on Dusty Rhodes's face policy. The scarring on his forehead from all the blading is awful.

[J.Clints]

Damn

[cougarjake13]

Damn

whatcha doing watching raw when the home run derby is on ???

[cougarjake13]

time to play the game

[cougarjake13]

ahh i guess they're setting up a booker t trips fued

[prothunderball]

time to play the game

your post made me think trips was back, and I went to go watch. Did they just show a promo?

[cougarjake13]

your post made me think trips was back, and I went to go watch. Did they just show a promo?

nah his music came on to a huge pop

but then it was just booker fucking with us saying that trips cant call himself the king of kings anymore

then he started a fight with jerry the king lawler

[Chimee]

This should be a lovely main event:

http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/preview/


3-on-2 handicap match with all the champions.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Hmmm...I smell a swerve.

[Chimee]

I'm going to say Lashley gets added as Cena's partner instead.

[King Imp]

Once again, they job a real wrestler to a fucking model. :annoyed:

[cougarjake13]

This should be a lovely main event:

http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/preview/


3-on-2 handicap match with all the champions.

ahh its more like a 3 on 1 handicap match

[cougarjake13]

dont know who else watched that abortion ppv last night

but the only highlight of the night was hornswaggle winning the cruiserweight title

[JesterOfSadness]

So...we start RAW with something that happened last week's starting RAW.. Awesome.

Except this time it's in the ring with a long table.

[Tully Blanchard]

WWE smells like a package of bologna laying out in the summer sun.

[JesterOfSadness]

For fucks sake, throw Santino back to OVW or redo his gimmick, he's worse than Maria's entrance music. Boo urns.

Or put some pants on...Jesus.

[Bossanova]

For fucks sake, throw Santino back to OVW or redo his gimmick, he's worse than Maria's entrance music. Boo urns.

Or put some pants on...Jesus.

Thatsa nota faira, hea isa gooda wrestlera. Worst Italian accent ever, along with awful red boots

[Don Stugots]

Thatsa nota faira, hea isa gooda wrestlera. Worst Italian accent ever, along with awful red boots

JT Smith had the best fake italian accent.

[Bossanova]

JT Smith had the best fake italian accent.

No doubt

[Bossanova]

Did I just see Johnny Nitro calling himself John Morrison? And dressing like Jim?

[Chimee]

Yup

[Bossanova]

WOW, I think that just finally killed this show for me

[Chimee]

Seeing Dusty Rhodes fall down in slow motion just killed my appetite.

[Bossanova]

Seeing Dusty Rhodes fall down in slow motion just killed my appetite.

That was hard to watch. I don't think his belly was supposed to fall out

[cougarjake13]

Did I just see Johnny Nitro calling himself John Morrison? And dressing like Jim?

yeh last week on ecw he changed his name

[cougarjake13]

is there any doubt that the number one contender is going be triple h ???

[Chimee]

Yeah, the fact that his return was announced for Summerslam and that they seem to be building for a King Booker/ Triple H rivalry.

[BeltOfScotch]

is there any doubt that the number one contender is going be triple h ???

He is coming back, but that doesn't really fit Coachman, he's a solid heel and HHH is still being presented as a face. Plus, they've been really playing up the Booker-HHH thing.

On the other hand, it's HHH. My guess, Booker gets named #1 contender, but HHH works his way into the match so it's a 3 way at Summerslam. HHH wins the title by pinning Booker and they build to HHH-Cena (again) at Wrestlemania.


According to this video, they turned HHH into Robocop

[Bossanova]

He is coming back, but that doesn't really fit Coachman, he's a solid heel and HHH is still being presented as a face. Plus, they've been really playing up the Booker-HHH thing.

On the other hand, it's HHH. My guess, Booker gets named #1 contender, but HHH works his way into the match so it's a 3 way at Summerslam. HHH wins the title by pinning Booker and they build to HHH-Cena (again) at Wrestlemania.

Or do they (god forbid) have Cena hold the strap until Wrestlemania when trips wins it.

[shadyrudy]

I would like to see an IC title run for Benjamin, freeing up Umaga. Then Umaga and Orton feud for #1 contender, setting up Orton vs Cena for Summer Slam. Also, if HHH is ring ready, he could start a feud with Lashley. Just my 2¢.

[cougarjake13]

Or do they (god forbid) have Cena hold the strap until Wrestlemania when trips wins it.

we've already had to suffer with 24 out of the 27 months with him

i cant take another 8


but if they're building up cena as much as they have these last few years then the most sensical thing is to have cena lose the title but not the match, like in a 3 way and have him defeat the king of kings to cement his mcmahon status as one of the greats

[Bossanova]

we've already had to suffer with 24 out of the 27 months with him

i cant take another 8


but if they're building up cena as much as they have these last few years then the most sensical thing is to have cena lose the title but not the match, like in a 3 way and have him defeat the king of kings to cement his mcmahon status as one of the greats

Very true, but will Trips allow this. He is after all next in line to book this thing when Vinnie steps down

[BeltOfScotch]

I read a potential plan for the WWE title that apparently comes from the Observer. If you don't like (possible) spoilers, don't look.

Apparently Orton would beat Cena for the title at Summerslam and HHH beats Booker, then move to an Orton-HHH feud that would go into the fall.

[Chimee]

Yeah, I read that too. I wouldn't mind seeing it happen.

[Bossanova]

I read a potential plan for the WWE title that apparently comes from the Observer. If you don't like (possible) spoilers, don't look.

Apparently Orton would beat Cena for the title at Summerslam and HHH beats Booker, then move to an Orton-HHH feud that would go into the fall.

I could go for that.

[Chimee]

I did not expect a Jeff Hardy run-in, of course there aren't that many other top faces to make the save.

And it looks like Orton is going to be the number 1 contender.

[cougarjake13]

i love it

hopefully orton gets the gold

[cougarjake13]

Very true, but will Trips allow this. He is after all next in line to book this thing when Vinnie steps down

why not ???
he's already jobbed to beniot and batista, the last 2 mania's where he came in having the belt to help push them

and last year he lost to cena at mania

[ponelas park townie]

From Wrestling News World:

As we saw on RAW last night, it appeared RAW setup Umaga vs. Jeff Hardy for SummerSlam, and that match will indeed go down. The planned Jackass vs. Umaga match has been cancelled. Sometime during the last week the deal fell apart. WWE had planned on some of the Jackass guys being at the Great American Bash PPV and do some of their stunts on Umaga all night and end up costing Umaga the title in the Hardy match which would have setup Umaga vs. Jackass at Summerslam.

Johnny Noxville had planned to do a few TV appearances for WWE leading up to the SummerSlam PPV but after the Benoit family tragedy happened, Jackass and Knoxville started distancing themselves from WWE. It started out with a few promised TV and PPV appearances, then it came down to Jackass only working the SummerSlam PPV then it ended with the whole idea being scrapped.

Once Knoxville pulled out, WWE decided to scrap the idea altogether. Originally WWE had planned on the Jackass crew defeating Umaga in the match.

[commish13]

According to this video, they turned HHH into Robocop

Six Million Dollar Man, you pansy.

[BeltOfScotch]

Six Million Dollar Man, you pansy.

Robocop destroys the Six Million Dollar Man, hands down, every time. Besides, Robocop has been in the ring before

http://robocoparchive.com/info/cameo/title.JPG

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I'm having deja-vu. Didn't Randy Orton face a certain someone for the title at Summerslam, only to have it taken away from him a month later by Triple H?

[cougarjake13]

I'm having deja-vu. Didn't Randy Orton face a certain someone for the title at Summerslam, only to have it taken away from him a month later by Triple H?

why yes he did

[xample]

I find it fucking hysterical how the "Did Vince McMahon die?" ads are still popping up on MySpace, etc....

Also, watched a sweet match from a 2001 Raw (RVD v. The Rock) on YouTube earlier.... good stuff, check it out. Link is part 1 of 3 of the match.

RVD v The Rock (http://youtube.com/watch?v=INRF4ehIvGo)

[SpicyMcHaggis]

So I'm a bit confused. Have they made Coach the official GM of RAW yet?

[Dash77]

So I'm a bit confused. Have they made Coach the official GM of RAW yet?

Nope still acting GM...

[cougarjake13]

Nope still acting GM...

he's just keeping it warm til bischoff comes back

[BeltOfScotch]

The Cabana is back and all is right in the world.

[prothunderball]

I gotta admit I kind of like pissed off shit talking John Cena

[Grendel_Kahn]

I think I asked this once before but....why all the Cena hate? The guy works hard, does the right thing in the ring, is good on the stick, I just don't get it. On top of all that, he makes a good radio guest. Am I missing someting?

[epo]

I think I asked this once before but....why all the Cena hate? The guy works hard, does the right thing in the ring, is good on the stick, I just don't get it. On top of all that, he makes a good radio guest. Am I missing someting?

I agree with you on the overreactions about Cena, but the "Superman" act of always overcoming does get old.

[BeltOfScotch]

Cena is better this year than he was. My problem was always that I never thought he deserved the clear top guy in the company spot that he got starting when he switched to Raw in 2005. To me, guys like Angle and Edge were much more deserving of long title runs but instead were used to repeatedly make Cena look good.

Plus, they basically made him into this Hogan (superman overcoming all odds), Austin (will fight anyone anywhere and isn't afraid of anything) and Rock (comedic showman who can also get serious) hybrid when he's not any of those guys. He has a place as a main event guy, but not where he is.


Carlito pinning Cena and then spitting the apple in his face was the greatest moment in WWE history since Hogan slammed Andre.

[cougarjake13]

No Chance In Hell !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cougarjake13]

he said everyone under contract and yet none of the major superstars are there

[cougarjake13]

my vote is william regal

[DarkHippie]

it'll be carlito

[cougarjake13]

it'll be carlito

yeh im saying sandman or carlito

[DarkHippie]

never mind

[cougarjake13]

told ya it was gonna be regal

[Kevin]

That coulda been the gayest celebration in the history of celebrations..

[DarkHippie]

That coulda been the gayest celebration in the history of celebrations..

he was shaking vince's cum out of his ass

[BeltOfScotch]

Does Vince really think it's a good idea to mockingly discuss Congressional requests for documents on live TV?

[DarkHippie]

snitsky is mini kane now?

[DarkHippie]

Does Vince really think it's a good idea to mockingly discuss Congressional requests for documents on live TV?

and the media

[cougarjake13]

Does Vince really think it's a good idea to mockingly discuss Congressional requests for documents on live TV?

well if he knows taht he isnt gonna get nailed for anything

why not ???

[cougarjake13]

snitsky is mini kane now?

yeh pretty much

theyve been doing that since he came back to ecw and then got drafted to raw

[cougarjake13]

and the media

in the end he could alweays say it was just tv, a script and he'd be ok

[weekapaugjz]

man, i love jerry lawler

[cougarjake13]

man, i love jerry lawler

so do i

but ya just knew he was gonna job to booka



im beginning to wonder if all these injuries are legit or if they are like the phantom injuries sports teams say guys have so they can put them on the dl for awhile

[Kevin]

so do i

but ya just knew he was gonna job to booka



im beginning to wonder if all these injuries are legit or if they are like the phantom injuries sports teams say guys have so they can put them on the dl for awhile

i think so too..

Also Prediction for next week.. Just as Booka is about to get crowned.. BEHOLD THE KING.. THE KING OF KINGS.. ON YOU KNEES DOG!

[Kevin]

A.. How friggin hot did Maria look in that dress??

B.. Ron Simmons is the man

C.. Did Santino's face look really puffy to you??

[cougarjake13]

i think so too..

Also Prediction for next week.. Just as Booka is about to get crowned.. BEHOLD THE KING.. THE KING OF KINGS.. ON YOU KNEES DOG!

exactly.. although they ve been saying he wont come back til sslam and they even have countdoen so that throws a wrench in the plans

A.. How friggin hot did Maria look in that dress??

B.. Ron Simmons is the man

C.. Did Santino's face look really puffy to you??


a. absolutely gorgoeus
b. is the man of men
c. i hate him

[cougarjake13]

i guess to counter act tna's signing of pacman jones

the wwe signed david caruso ???

[weekapaugjz]

A.. How friggin hot did Maria look in that dress??

instant wood. i had to do a google search for some pics of her after seeing her.

[epo]

instant wood. i had to do a google search for some pics of her after seeing her.

Isn't CM Punk tapping that?

Lucky prick.

[Kevin]

Isn't CM Punk tapping that?

Lucky prick.

Yea, Ol garbage bag eyes is indeed tapping that.. Bastard..

Wait a minute..
Nooooooooooooo.. NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOO.. Santino is dating her!! Just like Carlito was dating Torre.. SILLY GOOSE!

ITS STILL REAL TO ME DAMMIT!

[cougarjake13]

please tell that they arent gonna kill him again ???

[Kevin]

please tell that they arent gonna kill him again ???

I turned it off.. Couldnt watch Cena Umaga.. What happend??

[weekapaugjz]

I turned it off.. Couldnt watch Cena Umaga.. What happend??

vincey got a summons for an illegitimate child.

[Kevin]

vincey got a summons for an illegitimate child.

Oh God.. This may be the one that drives me away.. Although if Maria keeps wearin those kinda dresses, i may not be able to..

[cougarjake13]

I turned it off.. Couldnt watch Cena Umaga.. What happend??

vincey got a summons for an illegitimate child.

ahh but before that he was walking out to the car kinda like before and saw those 2 kids sitting in the background and was tentative to open the car door and then coach caught up with him

[xample]

Not a terrible RAW, but its still lacking. Good to see Vince back and the comedy was nicely strewn throughout. SPAM!

The wrestling left much to be desired (Did we really need to see Snitsky/Rory.. I mean come on), but at least the storylines weren't completely awful.

[ponelas park townie]

It was nice to see Vince refrence Paul London's grin from the last time.

[Fallon]

Couldn't get a good pic from tonight, but daaaamn.

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/4091/cubstu4.jpg

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Finally, a decent person under the actual title of General Manager. Now all we need is one for ECW.

[Fallon]

Finally, a decent person under the actual title of General Manager. Now all we need is one for ECW.

I just wish they'd use his badass theme music instead of the crap they are.

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[King Imp]

I always felt that Maria was by far the most gorgeous of any of the Divas and last night was definitely no exception.

I actually liked that Dating Show segment. Wanting to fuck Maria senseless aside, Ron Simmons was classic. I thought he was just gonna say Damn the whole time, so that was funny.

And even though I despised the "Vince is dead" angle, I got a kick out of the ending. It looked almost exactly like the first time, especially the two guys sitting outside. Paul London smiling again was a nice touch as well.

[King Imp]

Oh, two more things. Poor Mickie, and what was the point of Mr. Kennedy's segment. It would have actually been funny if after they cut to commercial in the middle of his segment, that he was still in the ring saying "Kennnnnnedy! when they came back.

[MrPink]

Dating show segment was awesome, and maybe it will start a feud between Farooq and that Italian guy. Maria has always been hot, but holy shit! I was disapointed with the GM battle royal. Sandman hasn't won a match since he joined WWE and he would make a great GM.

[ponelas park townie]

I have to disagree with you there. I'm a big fan of the Sandman, but his acting is terrible. I'm really happy to see Regal back in that Commissioner/GM spot.

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[Kevin]

I have to disagree with you there. I'm a big fan of the Sandman, but his acting is terrible. I'm really happy to see Regal back in that Commissioner/GM spot.

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Can't say i disagree with a single word that he said.. I love him as a GM.. As long as he never does that gay celebration again..

[Brother Grimm]

I like regal as GM too. He's pretty entertaining and decent wrestler.

Kennedy or Umaga would have been good though too.

Am I the only one thats happy Bobby Lashley wont be around for awhile?

[Chimee]

Illegitimate child has to be Viscera.

[Chimee]

WWE Idol tonight with William Regal. This might actually be enjoyable.

[BeltOfScotch]

I'm currently listening to a huge male dominated Randy Orton chant. Gotta love NYC crowds.

[JesterOfSadness]

I thought RAW sucked. Anyone with me on that?

[Chimee]

Yup, the Orton chant was good though.

[commish13]

I'm currently listening to a huge male dominated Randy Orton chant. Gotta love NYC crowds.

Why? Because they're idiots who don't know what talent is?

[BeltOfScotch]

Why? Because they're idiots who don't know what talent is?

More that they hate Cena so much that they'll cheer for a guy who sucks even more just to see Cena lose. I've said multiple times that Cena is much better this year, but I have no problem with a crowd showing their displeasure with making him the unstoppable champion that they have.

[MrPink]

Very predictable show tonight.

[Bob Impact]

I thought RAW sucked. Anyone with me on that?

Sarah and I both laughed at Regals Roe v Wade joke, aside from that it was terrible.

[Brother Grimm]

Why? Because they're idiots who don't know what talent is?

Well at least they arent buying into Cena's recycled Stone Cold gimmick.

[Brother Grimm]

RAW was horrible this week. Crime Tyme/Cade and Murdoch looks like it might be a decent fued though.

[King Imp]

Sarah and I both laughed at Regals Roe v Wade joke, aside from that it was terrible.

That was a classic line! These game show segments are turning out to be pretty good. Both weeks these things have been better than the rest of the show.

Oh and, Christ, Jillian's tits are huge!

I loved the pop that the crowd gave when Vince was leaving the ring and he stopped to look at Kennedy. Of course, since it's what the fans want, it won't happen.
Does anyone recall if Coach was down at the ring when Nipple H said Vince's illegitimate child was there at ringside? He was my pick to be the child until she said that. If he was there, then he still is my pick.

[MrPink]

Mr Orton's gimmick is getting awfully old. Am I the only one sickened by the fact that Sandman had to job like that? I'm still waiting for him to have a good feud and finally win a match.

[Chimee]

Does anyone recall if Coach was down at the ring when Nipple H said Vince's illegitimate child was there at ringside? He was my pick to be the child until she said that. If he was there, then he still is my pick.

They teased that at the Saturday Night Main Event taping.

[cougarjake13]

well if they are going for something serious i say it'll be kenny dykstra


if they go for the mark henry is the father of a sock or whatever the hell that was then itll be someone stupid

[cougarjake13]

new divas search contestants (http://www.wwe.com/divasearch/)



none of them really stand out except maybe for the asian one lena yada

and oddly enough the chick named brooke looks a lil like brooke hogan and stacy keibler

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I dig Eve Torres.

[King Imp]

IMO, it really is a piss poor group this year. None of these girls "do it" for me like Ashley and Leyla did in 2005 and Layla and Jennifer did in 2006.

[King Imp]

Jesus Christ, can they get any more predictable? As soon as I saw Cena's father at ringside at the beginning of the show, I said "Orton is gonna attack this guy later on."

[Fallon]

I had a ball bringing my nephew to RAW tonight, though his favorites are on Smackdown (Taker, Kane, Rey) he had a really good time. Triple H is the man and I'm starting to dig Umaga now. Nice core of young guys they are developing with Cena, Orton, Carlito, Kennedy and even Cody Rhodes.

Cryme Tyme was over really big, their Los Guerreros gimmick is really working for them. Jeff Hardy is terrible anymore.

Good show that ended with Triple H defeating Orton.

[King Imp]

Did they show the exchange with Kennedy and Vince backstage on the TitanTron? When Vince said "he walks funny" and then proceeded to walk away the same way, I started laughing.

Speaking of Kennedy, was there any indication that he legitimately hurt his leg? I don't know if they just did that in the ring to then play off on how he walked later on backstage, but it looked like he might have actually injured his lower leg in that match.

[Fallon]

Did they show the exchange with Kennedy and Vince backstage on the TitanTron? When Vince said "he walks funny" and then proceeded to walk away the same way, I started laughing.

Speaking of Kennedy, was there any indication that he legitimately hurt his leg? I don't know if they just did that in the ring to then play off on how he walked later on backstage, but it looked like he might have actually injured his lower leg in that match.

They showed it. And we laughed and laughed.

I didn't notice him get injured.

[cougarjake13]

if they ever decide to tell us the kid i still think its gonna be mr kennedy

[PilotJeff]

Good old Dave Scherer at PWInsider made a good point. Vince said he'd sue the mother two weeks from now. Two weeks from now they are in Green Bay, WI. Home of... Ken Kennedy.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Nice deduction there Sherlock Homo. (Sorry, no offense. I've just been wanting to use that line since I saw it on Venture Brothers.)

[PilotJeff]

(Tries out best Fez voice...) HAAAY! :smile:

[Chimee]

Good old Dave Scherer at PWInsider made a good point. Vince said he'd sue the mother two weeks from now. Two weeks from now they are in Green Bay, WI. Home of... Ken Kennedy.

... Kennedy

[SpicyMcHaggis]

So Vince is confronted by a Sheryl Anderson (Ken's real mom). She and him talk about old times and then she says, "Well, my son...our son, he's idolized you. In fact he even changed his name to be more like you."

Vince - "He calls himself Vince?"

Sheryl - "Not quite...he goes by a more... subtle name."

At that moment Mr. Kennedy's music BLASTS and the Vince gains a huge smile as he gets a huge hug from his long lost son. They raise arms in the ring as RAW fades to black.

[Don Stugots]

So Vince is confronted by a Sheryl Anderson (Ken's real mom). She and him talk about old times and then she says, "Well, my son...our son, he's idolized you. In fact he even changed his name to be more like you."

Vince - "He calls himself Vince?"

Sheryl - "Not quite...he goes by a more... subtle name."

At that moment Mr. Kennedy's music BLASTS and the Vince gains a huge smile as he gets a huge hug from his long lost son. They raise arms in the ring as RAW fades to black.

its like you looked into the future.

[Fallon]

So Kennedy vs. Shane will probably come of this. Not bad.

[cougarjake13]

So Kennedy vs. Shane will probably come of this. Not bad.

that would be badass

[Don Stugots]

So Kennedy vs. Shane will probably come of this. Not bad.

that would be badass

last man standing or Hardcore rules or hell in the cell. whichever, it will be a great feud.

[cougarjake13]

last man standing or Hardcore rules or hell in the cell. whichever, it will be a great feud.

im guessing all 3 leading up to the ppv after unforgiven

[Don Stugots]

all three in one night. like HHH vs Stone Cold

(yes i am kidding)

[SpicyMcHaggis]

That storyline I proposed is something I wish would happen but probably won't...but perhaps it would being that it's simple enough. Not quite sure.

[cougarjake13]

umaga vs jeff hardy to start off raw tonight


any doubt that hardy wins the title with umaga being implicated ???


and the irony of it with hardys past drug indisrections

[BeltOfScotch]

Based on the Raw spoilers that are out there (the show was taped last night because they're going on a tour to South Africa), it's pretty obvious who a couple of the suspended guys are.

[J.Clints]

Confirmed Matches For Tonight's WWE RAW
Reported By wnwryan
9/3/2007

The following matches have been taped for tonight's edition of RAW on the USA Network:

* Intercontinental Champion Umaga vs. Jeff Hardy

* Shelton Benjamin & Charlie Haas vs. Brian Kendrick & Paul London

* Triple H vs. Carlito & Umaga

* Maria vs. Beth Phoenix

* Cody Rhodes & Mickie James vs. Daivari & Jillian Hall

* Also appearing: Vince McMahon, Linda McMahon, Shane McMahon, Stephanie McMahon, Melina, William Regal, Santino Marella, The Sandman, Candice Michelle, Randy Orton, John Cena, Trevor Murdoch, Lance Cade, Jonathan Coachman, and Ken Kennedy.

[J.Clints]

Jim Ross Leaving WWE?, Vince McMahon Update
Reported By wnwryan
9/3/2007

Source - Wrestling Observer Newsletter

Jim Ross' one-year contract with WWE will be coming up in about a month or so. As of right now we haven't heard of any indications that he wouldn't be re-signed because there doesn't seem to be a replacement for him being groomed. He did recently open a restaurant in Norman, Oklahoma and his long-term goal is to make it a nationwide chain.

You may remember a few months ago when WWE Chairman Vince McMahon gave the commencement speech at Sacred Heart University and was given an honorary doctorate. As noted, this happened because his wife Linda is on the board. Before the decision was made there was a petition signed by many members of the faculty saying that Vince was the worst choice possible. For whatever reason, the University still went with him.

[J.Clints]

Updates On WWE Suspensions [Spoilers]
Reported By Mark
9/3/2007

- Umaga worked the RAW taping tonight and lost the WWE Intercontinental Title to Jeff Hardy. He was also beaten badly by Triple H and taken off on a stretcher. This would seem to be a way to write him off for the next few weeks which would indicate that he is among the suspended WWE wrestlers. Umaga was named in recent media reports as a customer of Signature Pharmacy, having bought drugs online as recently as December of 2006.

- William Regal worked the RAW taping and was replaced as commissioner by Vince McMahon. This would seem to also be a way to write him off for the time being, an indication that he is among the suspended WWE wrestlers. Regal, according to the media reports, bought drugs from Signature as recently as November of 2006.

- Randy Orton worked the RAW taping and was announced as part of the RAW main event for WWE Unforgiven. This obviously shows that he isn't among the suspended wrestlers. Orton was named in the media reports as having bought drugs from Signature as recently as February of 2007.

- Charlie Haas worked the RAW taping and lost in a tag-team match. He was not written off in any major way but one would assume he is one of the suspended wrestlers since he was named in the media reports as buying drugs from Signature as recently as January of 2007 and isn't a big enough star like Randy Orton to not be suspended.

- Mr. Kennedy worked the RAW taping and continued to be involved in a major way in the Mr. McMahon illegitimate son angle. Kennedy was originally scheduled to be revealed as McMahon's son in the storyline, but on RAW it was stated that he wasn't McMahon's son. It remains to be seen if the change is due to Kennedy being suspended or just due to the storyline being leaked so far in advance. Kennedy was listed in media reports as having bought drugs from Signature as recently as February of 2007.

[King Imp]

Randy Orton worked the RAW taping and was announced as part of the RAW main event for WWE Unforgiven. This obviously shows that he isn't among the suspended wrestlers. Orton was named in the media reports as having bought drugs from Signature as recently as February of 2007.

And now for my response in spolier tags since it will be obvious who I am talking about.

How the fuck does this guy keep getting away with shit? Seriously, who's dick is he sucking to remain untouchable after everything he's done, including it being a known fact that he is involved in this latest scandal?

[J.Clints]

Here is the Results for tonights Raw.

RAW begins with a video segment of Randy Orton attacking John Cena's father Johnny Fabulous. The crowd is perfect, cheer when they should and boo when they should.

RAW opening match is the Intercontinental title match: Jeff Hardy v. Umaga. Umaga is on the top turnbuckle, Jeff hits him and he straddles the rope. Jeff gets the pin off of that and wins the title. See ya Umaga - suspended. - SUSPENDED.

They are showing Triple H and Carlito as upcoming tonight, not sure if its a match or the Cabana. They are also advertising "the McMahon family confrontation."

Vince tells Coach that his family can't hurt him because he has a better OFFENSE. Carlito comes in with his hair cut! Vince tells him that his match against Triple H will be a handicap match in which he will tag with Umaga.

William Regal is looking for John Cena and Melina comes up and tells him about "her night with Vince". Melina turns around and Stephanie is glaring at her. She turns the other way and Linda slaps her across the face. Ron Simmons shows up and gives Melina the DAMN.

Santino and Maria come out to the ring. Santino insults the fans then talks crap to Ron Simmons. The Sandman's music hits...Santino tells Sandman that he's jealous because he makes love to Maria and Santdman makes love to his "stick". Sandman cracks Santino with the kendo stick then beats him all the way up the ramp with it. See ya Santino - suspended.

Maria waits in the ring for her opponent. Beth Phoenix comes down and beats her in a minute with the Fisherman's suplex. Beth gets a mic and tells Candice that she's cashing in her title shot am Unforgiven. She then gives Maria another suplex and Candice runs out for the save. After a stare down Beth walks out of the ring and up the ramp.

They show close ups of John Cena's dad's bruised face.

Yay, it's Grisham with the dumb sign crap...

William Regal comes to the ring and says that Randy Orton was told last week to show Vince McMahon that he deserved the title shot and unfortunately for the Cena family, he did just that. They showed a video package of the attack. Regal says that he gave Orton the night off, but he's here via satellite. He says that what happened was Cena's fault because he denied him a rematch. Regal announces that he gets the rematch at Unforgiven.

Orton says that he hopes that Cena's dad never forgives Cena for it. Cena walks out with no music or video and Regal says that he's just doing his job. Cena attacks Regal and beats him out of the ring and across the announce table. STFU on the floor broken up by the refs running from the back.

Lance Cade and Murdoch come to the ring and sit at the announce table. World's Greatest Tag Team v. London and Kendrick to determine the title contenders for Unforgiven. Note that Cade and Murdoch don't have their hats, so maybe some explanation is being made for Cryme Tyme being gone. Sliced Bread #2 and Kendrick gets the 3 count on Haas. Cade and Murdoch get in the ring with London & Kendrick and applaud them and shake their hands. Wow, this looks familiar... PS...See ya Haas - SUSPENDED.

Regal is getting checked by paramedics. Shane McMahon walks by, looks at him and keeps walking.

They aired a really good CM Punk video package. In the segment he says his line "I don't smoke, I don't do drugs, my high is wrestling."

They show Umaga and Carlito in the locker room. Carlito says that Triple H was laughing at Umaga for losing the title.

Vince and Coach have financial advisors and they are talking about Vince's money and how the family can't touch him. He then asks Coach how Regal is doing. Coach says "pretty beat up" and Vince replies with "well Coach, I guess its time for you to step up again." Once again, See ya Regal, SUSPENDED.

Vince confirms with his lawyers that his family can't get at his accounts. He tells Coach that he will take over for Regal as Commissioner. Vince fires a lawyer for suggesting that he settle with the mother of his son, as that is a "defensive strategy". He tells the other two that he's out for blood.

Jillian Hall and Daivari come out. Jillian talks crap to Lillian Garcia. She says that she had her wisdom teeth removed, but she and Daivari sing and dance anyway. Cody Rhodes (in black trunks!) and Mickie James interrupt and the match starts. Daivari singing in Farsi was kind of funny in a weird way...Cody pins Daivari after a nice DDT.

Melina comes to the ring in a little black lace dress. Kiss cam segment.

They aired a replay of Carlito's Cabana segment with Triple H and Vince.

Triple H comes out for the handicap match to biggest pop of the night. Carlito comes out then Umaga. Umaga is disqualified for entering the ring without tagging and double teaming HHH. The beat down continues. Umaga hits a big splash from the top rope. Carlito holds a chair in front of HHH in the corner, but he moves and Umaga rams into it. Triple H beats Carlito with the chair to the outside then gives Umaga multiple chair shots to the head, as he won't go down. Umaga finally goes to one knee and Triple H gets the sledgehammer and gives Umaga a few shots. Carlito retreats up the ramp and Umaga is rolled away on a stretcher. I can't help but speculate! AKA, One again see ya Umaga, SUSPENDED.

Off air, they carry Umaga out on a stretcher and change the pad on the mat from all of the blood.

They aired a video package about going back to Iraq this year.

Vince, Coach and the two attorneys come to the ring. Vince says that the family is here for one thing... "the MONEY!" Linda comes to the ring and says that she has plenty of her own money and doesn't need his. But, she can take him for everything due to the illegitimate son thing. Vince says that he had many lonely nights on the road and his kids would understand.

Enter Stephanie.

Vince shows a video that he made of the life of daddy's girl. They play a video of Vince beating down Steph instead. Vince is angry. HHH on video says he didn't play it. Steph says Vince needs help and should step down as Chairman.

Enter MY SON, SHANE!

Shane says there are two Vinces, the good and the bad. He says that Vince needs help, but he has to change himself. Vince says that none of the affairs happened and he lied to build his own ego and only cheated once. With the mother of his son. He kneels to his family and vows to be better.

Kennedy comes to the ring. Ken points out the last name thing and the Green Bay location as where Vince plans to reveal the mystery. He says that he is Vince's son. Steph says that he's not Vince's son. Ken says that Vince's lunacy inspired him and that unlike his family, he won't judge Vince. Ken does his Kennedy thing on the mic and adds MCMAHON to it!

Then, a representative for the suing mother comes out and says that Ken is not Vince's son but he can't reveal who is until next week. The horrible actor then says that he can give a clue, "Things are looking up".

RAW ends and Vince makes Ken a match for lying to him. It will be against John Cena. So Kennedy is not suspended? Something is VERY VERY fishy.

[King Imp]

Then, a representative for the suing mother comes out and says that Ken is not Vince's son but he can't reveal who is until next week. The horrible actor then says that he can give a clue, "Things are looking up".

Jesus Christ, it's gonna be the Great Khali, isn't it?

[Chimee]

Maybe it's Eddie Guerrero.

[MrPink]

I can use spoilers too

[Don Stugots]

Maybe it's Eddie Guerrero.

i am thinking its the blue blazer.

[J.Clints]

i am thinking its the blue blazer.

He Died

[Don Stugots]

He Died

that is why they looked up.

[cougarjake13]

this spoiler text is bullshit

[Don Stugots]

this spoiler text is bullshit

but its a secret.

[Heather 8]

Jesus Christ, it's gonna be the Great Khali, isn't it?

Return of the Big Show? Remember, "Paul Wight, you're a nasty bastard, and your momma said so!"

[Don Stugots]

Return of the Big Show? Remember, "Paul Wight, you're a nasty bastard, and your momma said so!"

ohhhh, i love it. Kennedy could be like "but i thought it was me" and go nuts.

[Chimee]

that is why they looked up.

Then quickly down...

You know, that's just wrong and I'm sorry I said that...

[Tenbatsuzen]

If it's not Kennedy, it should be...

Jericho. Born in New York. Dad was an athlete and constantly on the road. Mom just sitting at home. Oh, by the way, the WWE's home base? Madison Square Garden, where "Dad" played.

[Chimee]

That would be great. That being said, it'll never happen.

[Chimee]

I'm going to miss William Regal saying Triple Haitch and Youmanga.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Didn't they do this same exact storyline with Cade/Murdoch and the Hardy's not too long ago with the fake respect?

[MrPink]

Didn't they do this same exact storyline with Cade/Murdoch and the Hardy's not too long ago with the fake respect?

Yeah I just told my roommates that.

[Chimee]

Too bad Carlito's hair got suspended, he just isn't the same without it.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

His hair does look smaller since it went off the juice.

[King Imp]

Anyone have a pic of Carlito with his new do? I didn't watch it and apparantly they didn't see fit to put any pics of him from tonight's RAW up on their site.

[cougarjake13]

im thinking it may be a returning hbk

[Dash77]

" Things are looking up?" what the hell does that mean

[RingWraith]

It's probably Big Show. That storyline when his "mother" told him that his father (who died) wasn't his biological father. They never did say who his "real" father was then.

It was the time he fued with the Big Boss Man.

[Heather 8]

Way to spoil my spoiler, Spoily McSpoilalot!

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Things are looking Up

a bird is flys which is up

My Guess is Koko B Ware

:king:

[Chimee]

It's probably Big Show. That storyline when his "mother" told him that his father (who died) wasn't his biological father. They never did say who his "real" father was then.

It was the time he fued with the Big Boss Man.

That would mean referencing something older than last week, they'd never do it.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Yeah, that's a real stretch. I thought that Big Show was done with WWE, too. I guess if the money's right...

[Chimee]

I think Big Show is done with wrestling altogether.

[Don Stugots]

That would mean referencing something older than last week, they'd never do it.

wrestling was around before last week? crazy talk.

[cougarjake13]

i still say hbk or jericho

[Chimee]

It would be a great twist if next week they say "and Vince McMahon's illegitimate son is..." and out comes Jericho with no build up or anything. Just a surprise, it would be great.

[MrPink]

Jericho would be fuckin awesome. He has hinted at comin back when he was on Larry King.:thumbup:

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Well we all know it was supposed to be Kennedy but he fucked himself over by lying about taking drugs. Jericho would definitely be an interesting choice as they do need a big name to fill in during all these injuries and suspensions.

[J.Clints]

What about Shawn Michale's? I noticed he was back on the intro last night. Also Things are looking up? GOD?

[Chimee]

I doubt that they'd bring him back around the time that they bring back the Undertaker. Of course Rey Mysterio and Triple H returned on the same night.

[cougarjake13]

wwe.com now has a poll up asking who you think is the illegitimate son of vince

notably absent are mr kennedy ( my original pick) and hbk ( my new pick since the news leaked out it was gonna be kennedy)

now the guy said things are looking up so i took that to mean religion and god and we all know hbk is a jesus freak but he isnt on the list so that may take him out

now the wwe website has an article asking if the son may be hhh, and he was on the titan tron right before that guy came out and said things are looking up, its a stretch i know but ya never know, but it does create the incest angle betw trips and stef and if a man is screwed up enough to fake his own death, an incest angle isnt outta the question

is trips the son article (http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/articles/5046390/lowdownonup)


heres the lsit of wrestlers on the poll

The Miz Jamie Noble Batista Snitsky

Shelton Benjamin Chavo Guerrero Kevin Thorn Randy Orton

Triple H Balls Mahoney Chuck Palumbo Steven Richards

Carlito Umaga Kane Matt Hardy

Paul London Val Venis Deuce John Morrison

Matt Striker John Cena Domino Elijah Burke

The Great Khali CM Punk Daivari Charlie Haas

Rey Mysterio Finlay Jeff Hardy Rory McAllister

Chris Masters Hornswoggle Kenny Dykstra Big Daddy V

Tommy Dreamer MVP Sandman Brian Kendrick

Funaki Shannon Moore Jimmy Wang Yang Lance Cade

Robbie McAllister The Boogeyman Santino Marella Mark Henry

King Booker Trevor Murdoch

[Chimee]

According to the Wrestling Observer site, London and Kendrick are the new tag champions. I wonder why they would do that.

[cougarjake13]

According to the Wrestling Observer site, London and Kendrick are the new tag champions. I wonder why they would do that.

b/c cade and murdoch are gay


why would they make matt hardy and mvp tag champs ???


bc vince doesnt care about the tag belts no more

[Chimee]

It's not so much them having the belts (that makes me very happy) it's more a question of why they would do it at a non-televised event in Africa. I can understand when the had Nunzio win the Cruiserweight belt in Italy, but as far as I know, neither London or Kendrick are from Africa.

[cougarjake13]

It's not so much them having the belts (that makes me very happy) it's more a question of why they would do it at a non-televised event in Africa. I can understand when the had Nunzio win the Cruiserweight belt in Italy, but as far as I know, neither London or Kendrick are from Africa.

maybe like the other recent title changes

cade and or murdoch did something they shouldnt have and got caught

[CruelCircus]

"Things are looking up"

=

Hornswoggle.

A ridiculous end to a ridiculous angle.

[Fallon]

"things are looking up"

It's not Kennedy... it's the mic!

[King Imp]

I know the WWE does tend to forget facts from time to time, but let's not forget that when this angle started it was Stephanie who said the child was there at ringside.

That rules out Big Show, Jericho, and HBK. I still say it's gonna be Khali unless it's clearly going to be a RAW star. Do they even reference this angle on ECW or Smackdown?

[cougarjake13]

I know the WWE does tend to forget facts from time to time, but let's not forget that when this angle started it was Stephanie who said the child was there at ringside.

That rules out Big Show, Jericho, and HBK. I still say it's gonna be Khali unless it's clearly going to be a RAW star. Do they even reference this angle on ECW or Smackdown?


well that rules out triple h then too cause he wasnt there either

yeh he shows up on all 3 shows with coach talking about it and they have a few superstars walk up to him calling him daddy

only thing is they say they gonna announce on raw so that tends to make one believe that it'll be a raw guy

[King Imp]

wwe.com now has a poll up asking who you think is the illegitimate son of vince

Is there a glitch with their voting site? Seems odd to me that Steven Richards of all people is actually leading this thing by a huge margin. Triple H is close behind, but after that there are hardly any votes for anyone else.


only thing is they say they gonna announce on raw so that tends to make one believe that it'll be a raw guy

That's what keeps throwing me off about Khali. It's almost as if they are trying to hint that it's clearly a RAW guy by doing it this way.

[Chimee]

I hope it's not Snitsky.

[cougarjake13]

Is there a glitch with their voting site? Seems odd to me that Steven Richards of all people is actually leading this thing by a huge margin. Triple H is close behind, but after that there are hardly any votes for anyone else.



i guess stevie richards has that big of a fan base